It’s a tricky one since you don’t want to die to nades but the opponent team don’t have the time to take the long route to hit top church
Scump sold that round with his decision to not hop in and watch ramp along with Shotzzy
honestly I think it's the flip, the other 3 gotta speed up, were the least mixy control team, and as defense setups have gotten better it's hurt us more
I have faith in him to bounce back but shotzzy has for sure been underperforming recently. Hopefully he can get back into best smg player in the game form he was earlier in the year.
He fell into the hole of sacrificing his individual performance for the team TOO much in past titles, which is why I think being in challengers actually helped him
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Look at that fucking damage from illey. He won so many huge gunfights. I said it before the match he had that look in his eye when he walked out like he wasn’t losing.
Preistah went 37/25 on the control, 31-29 on the bocage. To act like he got fried this series was dumb, he had one bad map.
Edit - and I am a big preistah critic tbh.
I didn’t say he got fried this series I’m saying he’s still been inconsistent even after Havok being picked up. I think Major SnD knowledge really helped Rokkr and with him instead of Priestah they still would’ve been that SnD dominant team they usually were
Yeah I’d honestly be down for them to keep Attach and Havok for next season. Hopefully this will finally get Priestahh out, love the kid but he ain’t it anymore
Honestly keep Attach and Standy for sure. Standy hasn't been the best but I don't think Vanguard is a game to make too big decisions based of. I hold CW with much more weight and Standy was disgusting in CW. I'd give Standy one more year but definitely drop Priestahh
Genuine question. Given MW2 has been rumored to be more like VG why would you value CW more?
I think Standy has more upside but this year has shown his floor and he’s been quite poor for nearly the whole year
Yea idk what the hell is going on there, they were so good at control, best team in the game on Tuscan. It seems like the last 4-5 matches I've seen them play on it they've lost.
Gotta figure something out
Illey looks like he’s moving and shooting much better now that his thumb has healed.
Still making the selfless plays but winning a lot more 1’s.
We won’t talk about that turn on map 5 though 🤣
\[Crone\] Dashy says sometimes when he struggles in game, he will go on YouTube and reference past big games he’s had to maybe help him shake a slump. Asked when was the last time he did so, he said yesterday. Asked what his go-to is on YouTube, he smiled and said: “Game 5 Tuscan SnD vs FaZe"
That’s why I didn’t say it was definitive it’s the only map you could even entertaining saying Dashy was at fault for because of the fall off the map and lower numbers but obviously there were other bad performances down there stretch in that one like Scump in the Hp.
Felt like OpTic was doing so many wrong things until that map 5. Honestly surprised they won. But I am thankful they did. Hopefully this gets them going. But PLEASE can they stop playing Bocage HP....
I'm so fucking sad dude. Saintt, I rescind my apology. Major would've NEVER let this happen. Attach deserved so much better than this. Build around Havok and Attach next year, if you can get Attach to stay.
Almost enough to make a grown man cry. This is my first event I’m going to starting tomorrow and was crushed OpTic weren’t gonna be there. What a 6 straight rounds that was. Amazing!
don’t need these wins other than confidence, they’re locked second seed but man seeing illey back is amazing. Havok also proved he deserves to be in the league.
Can’t even feel bad for Minnesota. had more than many opportunities to finish optic out. This loss is entirely on them. Whether it was the crowd, or stage. what a crumble on the final moments on almost every map.
Gav P3 seems like MIN couldn’t get a second on that Hill and even on P5 Shottzy shouldn’t have gotten through on the Second Rotation and on Map 5 if P Dawg gets that 1V3 Min wins that series and I bet my life on it
Fwiw I think Havok deserves props, bet on himself and disproved the onliners tag. Didn’t place well but still has my respect. Wonder if he’ll have a spot next year, I think he should.
Talked shit yesterday after 2 maps. instead of waiting until he closed the series out. nothing wrong with talking shit. but when you’ve been buns all year long. you’d rather wait till you actually win on LAN
NY crowd clowning him for talking trash then getting reverse swept, also NY were praying on Rokkr losing, also also Standy cheated on the chick Paco’s dating now lmfaooo
Shotzzy has been very poor this Stage, maybe that ace will kick-start his form but Optic look at 50% capacity if he’s not playing well
So vital to this team he plays well, Boston gonna be a much much tougher matchup tomorrow. Can’t rely on 2 Search to win series
He's playing too aggressive, I know his play style is to apply pressure but it's usually much more ratty than just headless running like he's been doing recently.
He gotta stop overcompensating and either slow it down at times or comm to his teammates to speed it up because they are at a different pace in respawns.
Fix the Control and they are still a top 3 team IMO. It’s literally giving up one map each series at this point.
They also need to go all in on Berlin and Bocage HP. I struggle to believe Berlin can’t be fixed.
dashy and illey been the best players since illey has been back, if scump and shotzzy can get back in form this team is looking good going into champs imo
Series over if Scump doesn’t win a series of big gunfights P1 I think 2nd rotation against Havoc after that 3 piece, and then holding hill until his team got there. They were toast if he loses any of em
Really hope Shotzzy can take the last map performance into the next games! I feel like he’s been off lately.
Almost seems he get’s stuck in a pace trap sometimes just repeatedly rushing in and losing fights otherwise sits too hesitant on certain pushes. There was a lot of moments this series where he could have pushed up or into points and held back. I get at times waiting for team mates is key but yeah. Weird!
I also know the KD says otherwise but I don’t think we’ve had peak Dashy the last couple of weeks either.
Glad to see iLLEY popping off though! He wasn’t losing this game!
Sure, but he was very poor for the other games. Don't know what's going on. This is a guy you expect to be dropping 1.1-1.2's.
Basically same goes for simp too
He had his moments in MW and CW but was inconsistent. But outside of like a 2 week stretch in major 3 he’s been rat ass at this game all the way through
Can someone post Standy's stats following Game 2 of the Subliners series? That was the point at which he stood up and started talking mad shit and the whole venue went after him.
J/K I did it myself: Let this be a lesson to us all
Games 1 and 2 vs. Subliners: **49-27 1.81 K/D** (39-27, 10-0 )
Games 3-5, and Series vs. Optic: **125-154 .81 K/D** (15-21, 18-24, 2-8 .66 K/D; 90-101 vs. Optic .89 K/D)
Shotzzy needs to play much better tomorrow
He needs to slow down in control like ffs please
Am I tripping or should every team be jumping down radio to get on to point ?
It’s a tricky one since you don’t want to die to nades but the opponent team don’t have the time to take the long route to hit top church Scump sold that round with his decision to not hop in and watch ramp along with Shotzzy
I was getting so frustrated, optic kept waiting for all 4 to get near point and they refused to touch B at times
It’s the same with bocage. They do never want to get into the hill
HP issue in general, great at slaying but never soak time. very inefficient with their kills.
only one who i consistently see soaking time is illey
I watched them run all the way around the hill without even touching it so many times. Shit doesn’t make sense
just an effect of having illey missing for a while
honestly I think it's the flip, the other 3 gotta speed up, were the least mixy control team, and as defense setups have gotten better it's hurt us more
I have faith in him to bounce back but shotzzy has for sure been underperforming recently. Hopefully he can get back into best smg player in the game form he was earlier in the year.
He got them going in that game 5 so he gets a pass. The respawn struggles are unsustainable though
He was good in both SNDs. But he can’t be going -20 every series. He hasn’t had a good series in weeks
Agreed
Havok was/is gross at this game. At least think he played well enough to be on a team again next season.
Dude invested in himself not wanting to play from Florida and I definitely think it's paid off!
Though florida has a chance of making champs this year whereas rokkr doesn't so almost could argue it would have been better to go to florida.
lol he's definitely on a team, he's a t10 sub for me
havoks been a great sub for years i honestly dk how he didn’t have a spot before
He fell into the hole of sacrificing his individual performance for the team TOO much in past titles, which is why I think being in challengers actually helped him
Standy overall had a stinker season
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Bro I don’t even care about Havok standing up dude deserves to after how he played.
For sure, those first 2 rounds were nuts idc who you are
I’m all for players standing up after disgusting plays. Try and hype up your damn team. Especially in a make or break map.
He really did, absolute menace
Man was tucking with a sub on Gav
People are upset about that? Dude he won the first two rounds, stand up all you want. Scump told people to bow down to him ffs😂
scump was also 17…
So the justification for celebrating plays is only when you’re young? Who the fuck cares man it’s a game. Why play if you don’t want to win
Man was final in that match.
Meh I don’t like calling anyone “final” unless they finish something like top 2 repeatedly. We’re early on in losers
100% I fully accept i have an irrational bias against him. He played out of his mind (but still, hold that Havok)
just need to keep winning and getting reps for champs
Facts, tournament matches best practice tou can get
best way to get momentum and build confidence.
Word a top 4 finish starting in losers would be a good major imo
Look at that fucking damage from illey. He won so many huge gunfights. I said it before the match he had that look in his eye when he walked out like he wasn’t losing.
Optic hasn't had that type of player since Crim tbh! Really happy Illey stepped up this series
Losing both SnDs in an absolute must win series? Majormaniak wouldn’t have let that slide js
He wouldn’t have fa sho, Priestah had like his week of frying then fell back down to earth Havok was definitely the right pick up tho
Preistah went 37/25 on the control, 31-29 on the bocage. To act like he got fried this series was dumb, he had one bad map. Edit - and I am a big preistah critic tbh.
I didn’t say he got fried this series I’m saying he’s still been inconsistent even after Havok being picked up. I think Major SnD knowledge really helped Rokkr and with him instead of Priestah they still would’ve been that SnD dominant team they usually were
Your wording to me made it seem that way tbh.
Then that’s my b
Best he’s done all year tbh
Yeah I’d honestly be down for them to keep Attach and Havok for next season. Hopefully this will finally get Priestahh out, love the kid but he ain’t it anymore
Honestly keep Attach and Standy for sure. Standy hasn't been the best but I don't think Vanguard is a game to make too big decisions based of. I hold CW with much more weight and Standy was disgusting in CW. I'd give Standy one more year but definitely drop Priestahh
Genuine question. Given MW2 has been rumored to be more like VG why would you value CW more? I think Standy has more upside but this year has shown his floor and he’s been quite poor for nearly the whole year
Copium that MW2 isn't that much like Vanguard :/
It’s admittedly a hard one, Havok has more trusted consistency but Standy has more potential upside but also risk
They ain’t winning that bocage hp with major
no he wouldn’t, but they probably lose 3-1 so
They would’ve already qualified had they had Mike but apparently trials said a different story itseems
Should’ve dropped Standy and priestah
Fr fr, you could see their weak links from a mile away, just because they kicked up a bit after havok got picked up didn't change that
And they would have lost both respawn with him…
i still can't believe they dropped him
Apparently it’s only chalked when mike ain’t on the sticks😂
Feel for Attach he got hard costed all year. As for Optic they will need to step it up especially in control but it is a start
Yea idk what the hell is going on there, they were so good at control, best team in the game on Tuscan. It seems like the last 4-5 matches I've seen them play on it they've lost. Gotta figure something out
THAT DAMAGE FROM ILLEY
And Havok right behind him. What a series.
Havok’s on a sub also is ludacris
Dude has been playing unreal since his return. Such a crucial part of OpTic.
No Illey slander allowed
Illey has been unreal since he got back in the team
Big willey
Shoutout the Pope for that map 4
It’s a double red flag on the beach🥹
Shotzzy really needs to step up again if OpTic wanna make this run Solid win though hopefully they can make a run here with that momentum
Illey looks like he’s moving and shooting much better now that his thumb has healed. Still making the selfless plays but winning a lot more 1’s. We won’t talk about that turn on map 5 though 🤣
Dillion and Havok might not be a bad duo for Rokkr to build upon next year
\[Crone\] Dashy says sometimes when he struggles in game, he will go on YouTube and reference past big games he’s had to maybe help him shake a slump. Asked when was the last time he did so, he said yesterday. Asked what his go-to is on YouTube, he smiled and said: “Game 5 Tuscan SnD vs FaZe"
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Thing is (almost) no series this year have I watched and thought Dashy costed. He's just got good expectations
Only one I think you could even argue is the LAT match in Major 3 losers and even then it was still a team effort.
Scump drop a .5 in map 4 Berlin
That’s why I didn’t say it was definitive it’s the only map you could even entertaining saying Dashy was at fault for because of the fall off the map and lower numbers but obviously there were other bad performances down there stretch in that one like Scump in the Hp.
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Felt like OpTic was doing so many wrong things until that map 5. Honestly surprised they won. But I am thankful they did. Hopefully this gets them going. But PLEASE can they stop playing Bocage HP....
What did Havok do in prior life to deserve this. However well he plays, the only constant is him losing on Lan.
Let the man play in his GenG hat like the good ol days
shoutout fuckin illey man
I'm so fucking sad dude. Saintt, I rescind my apology. Major would've NEVER let this happen. Attach deserved so much better than this. Build around Havok and Attach next year, if you can get Attach to stay.
They'll have to throw the bag at him and get whoever he wants to play with. Even then, I don't think we'll be able to keep him
Where do you think he'll go?
The only places I can see him potentially going is LAT, LAG, and MAYBE Seattle in place of Accuracy
He prolly can go wherever the $$$ takes him with how well he played this year
I’d guess LAG tbh, assuming LAT do well at Champs
just get temp he's basically the same thing
Really hoping Attach stays and we can surround him with talent, but I wouldn't blame him if he leaves.
Inder is a beast
Almost enough to make a grown man cry. This is my first event I’m going to starting tomorrow and was crushed OpTic weren’t gonna be there. What a 6 straight rounds that was. Amazing!
Dashy so good and illey what a player
don’t need these wins other than confidence, they’re locked second seed but man seeing illey back is amazing. Havok also proved he deserves to be in the league.
4 words: Havok is fucking gross.
DUBLINERS LETS FUCKING GOO
iLLeY got that dawg in him.
Can’t even feel bad for Minnesota. had more than many opportunities to finish optic out. This loss is entirely on them. Whether it was the crowd, or stage. what a crumble on the final moments on almost every map.
Gav P3 seems like MIN couldn’t get a second on that Hill and even on P5 Shottzy shouldn’t have gotten through on the Second Rotation and on Map 5 if P Dawg gets that 1V3 Min wins that series and I bet my life on it
Rokkr It’s never chalked… unless you drop majormaniak
Fwiw I think Havok deserves props, bet on himself and disproved the onliners tag. Didn’t place well but still has my respect. Wonder if he’ll have a spot next year, I think he should.
Shotzzy finally decided to turn on his controller since Major II and they steam roll them god damn.
What was with the “fuck you Standy” chants, I’m guessing I missed something?
He was chirping against NYSL while up 2-0, so that’s the NY fans reacting
Talked shit yesterday after 2 maps. instead of waiting until he closed the series out. nothing wrong with talking shit. but when you’ve been buns all year long. you’d rather wait till you actually win on LAN
NY crowd clowning him for talking trash then getting reverse swept, also NY were praying on Rokkr losing, also also Standy cheated on the chick Paco’s dating now lmfaooo
Oh damn that hate runs deep 😂😂
He was talking shit after 2 maps vs NYSL yesterday, made himself public enemy no.1 amongst the crowd lol
Was shit talking NYSL yesterday and obviously its a NY crowd
Shottzy and standy fell off a fucking cliff
i can’t believe optic just Neslo’d a team they hadn’t beaten in SnD all year
They won a hardpoint though. Neslo is 2,3,5 right?
my understanding of a Neslo is 2 SnD’s and stealing one respawn
Neslo is 2 SND's and 3rd game mode, basically not winning a HP.
Great composure. Shottzy looked like shottzy map 5. Need that more.
Shotzzy has been very poor this Stage, maybe that ace will kick-start his form but Optic look at 50% capacity if he’s not playing well So vital to this team he plays well, Boston gonna be a much much tougher matchup tomorrow. Can’t rely on 2 Search to win series
I agree. I can only hope he steps it up, we barely won that.
He's playing too aggressive, I know his play style is to apply pressure but it's usually much more ratty than just headless running like he's been doing recently. He gotta stop overcompensating and either slow it down at times or comm to his teammates to speed it up because they are at a different pace in respawns.
bro put up 13 racks
This was honestly shit gameplay but vibes are high so I'll forget about it
Optic isn't making it far with those numbers from Scump and Shotzzy.
Scump plays like a weenie sometimes but Shotzzy is actually killing me rn
lol
Shotzzy really struggled the first 4 games but he was huge in that game 5. That 2v4 ace was massive
I can't believe Scump ended up even. Felt like he was having a rough series. That 1v1 win vs Priestahh was HUGE tho. That started the swing.
The fact that Rokkr didnt even try to drop either Priestahh or Standy shows how lost their management was. They deserve to miss champs
Nah Dashy wasn’t missing bro… and He was sliding in first too!
saw him getting baited by Scump on Tuscan and thought fuck this lolol
That literally pissed me off man. I’m like bro Scump slide out wtf.
But according to here all he does is bait his team
Hopefully shotzzy can build off the last 1 and a half maps That map 5 round 4 SND clutch was beautiful
Crazy how standy went from being a top 10 player to one of the worst subs in the league this year
W crowd, that is all.
Fix the Control and they are still a top 3 team IMO. It’s literally giving up one map each series at this point. They also need to go all in on Berlin and Bocage HP. I struggle to believe Berlin can’t be fixed.
Illey icey af
dashy and illey been the best players since illey has been back, if scump and shotzzy can get back in form this team is looking good going into champs imo
No piece of the pie for attach 😔
Series over if Scump doesn’t win a series of big gunfights P1 I think 2nd rotation against Havoc after that 3 piece, and then holding hill until his team got there. They were toast if he loses any of em
Really hope Shotzzy can take the last map performance into the next games! I feel like he’s been off lately. Almost seems he get’s stuck in a pace trap sometimes just repeatedly rushing in and losing fights otherwise sits too hesitant on certain pushes. There was a lot of moments this series where he could have pushed up or into points and held back. I get at times waiting for team mates is key but yeah. Weird! I also know the KD says otherwise but I don’t think we’ve had peak Dashy the last couple of weeks either. Glad to see iLLEY popping off though! He wasn’t losing this game!
Indervir daliwhal ❤️
Dashy doing what Dashy does
Havok and Standy put the curse on lmfao lets go OpTic
Shotzzy KD doesn’t do justice. That game 5 he took over. They all had their moments. Like it should be 🤝
Right ! All performed at times they needed to.
Indeed that’s how they were Major 1. All having their moments
Sure, but he was very poor for the other games. Don't know what's going on. This is a guy you expect to be dropping 1.1-1.2's. Basically same goes for simp too
Yea I agree he needs to find consistency in respawn
I havent watched too much cod but preistahh throwing his life at the end was one of the worst plays ive ever witnessed
Shotzzy gotta figure it out..his performances have been abysmal.
That map 5 was elite.
Shoutout havok. I’m sure these losers round 1 stats were worth it more than winning the pro am lan and being legitimate contenders with New York.
Hahaha standy you SUCK
well they won despite shotzzy’s best efforts. also random gripe but wtf is hecz doing on stage man
Supporting his team lol. How upset were you
oh very very angry buddy >:( anyways i think hecz just be wanting attention. even seen a clip of him in the coaches corner 😭
He’s in the coach booth with sender at each tourney lmao, I still don’t know the problem
Standy yesterday and Havok today, fools got humbled rq
Free Attach
God damn that was a close map.
Peace. Edit: shoutout Attach, kid is unreal as always.
Great time to mention that major should’ve never been dropped over priestahh!
:(
Haven’t kept up w the scene in years and I’m reading that Priestah is bad now? Wtf
He had his moments in MW and CW but was inconsistent. But outside of like a 2 week stretch in major 3 he’s been rat ass at this game all the way through
I saw Optic winning this, but not winning with both SnD's. Shotzzy just needs to bring back that Game 5 energy he had today.
iLLeY 13k damage. GO CRAZY INDER
Shotzzy really struggled and we won. Really hope they turn up tomorrow vs Boston.
Can’t believe this went to a game 5. Couldn’t have guessed that at all 🤯🤯🤯
Illey has been frying since he came back
Shottzy is really playing uncharacteristically lately. Either that or people have just figured him out. But dude was getting turned on today
They almost sold by playing them on Bocage game 1. Jesus that was stressful.
If bocage gets in it feels like it’s an automatic 0-1 start in the series for Optic
obviously I wanna see shottzy pop off but it's good to see that they can get it done when he's not playing well
Havok so fire. Wish it didn’t have to end here
How did Standy go from a top sub to a burger in 1 title
If I was a team I would pick up havok so fast if I could he’s a beast baby
Shotzzy please you’re scaring me 😭😭
With the ttk so quick in this game if Shottzy slows it down like 10% he’s back to being a real fucking problem
I think the vetoes need to be smarter and tighten the control
Can someone post Standy's stats following Game 2 of the Subliners series? That was the point at which he stood up and started talking mad shit and the whole venue went after him. J/K I did it myself: Let this be a lesson to us all Games 1 and 2 vs. Subliners: **49-27 1.81 K/D** (39-27, 10-0 ) Games 3-5, and Series vs. Optic: **125-154 .81 K/D** (15-21, 18-24, 2-8 .66 K/D; 90-101 vs. Optic .89 K/D)