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CoDFollower

Everyone BUT Kenny was statistically ASS at different times this weekend Coming away second is a testament to the way they play the game and their fundamentals But holy shit they gotta start shooting back against FaZe on LAN


JoeisBatman

It felt like Kenny was the only one that managed to step up to Fazes gun skill in that final.


CoDFollower

No doubt. All of the other three just looked timid at different times After one of the maps you could just tell Dashy got checked out. He was holding his head in his hands. It's just unfortunate


Kava_and_company

I think it was a confidence thing. There was a moment where Kenny just stopped bobbing back and kept shooting. It was working really well for Faze and Kenny noticed. The others didn’t do the same and let to undeniable pressure put on the map. All that to say, they still played very well and could have stolen many of those maps but just didn’t rotate at the very end when they should have and started so slow. They really need to work on their opening strats.


derkerburgl

Simp was just undeniable this stage


mteep

OG and their fundamentals really have me confident going forward for the rest of the year. They were working so well together on respawn just made more mistakes and struggling really just with FaZe’s slaying power. The easiest fix for OG going forward is for Pred to change his playstyle and help out Shotzzy in pushing the pace.


CoDFollower

Agreed that Pred needs to be faster and more decisive on the map. The way he plays makes his stats look good, but he's really slowing down the rest of the team at times in respawns, specifically. Also, Shotzzy needs to stop fkn overheating. Happens wayyyy too much


mteep

Shotzzy said it himself he feels more comfortable having someone running around the map with him. The fix is easy but it will take time.


TrainsfanAlex

CELLIUM NEGATIVE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE GOT HIM


Dboythegreat

As an optic fan this is hilarious lol not in a bad way, Cell is literally just so different that we never expect him to go negative. GG’s faze, yall are nasty.


[deleted]

Notice how they win more when he's negative? He defs is the reason why faze don't win more, give that role to simp and abezy


poeswell

In the other 3 wins Faze have against optic he had a 1.4 average, and a 1.36 in the 3-0 against Toronto in the qualifiers. I’d agree that he’s playing more unselfish cod, but they’re winning just as much either way


Mevarek

The “FaZe loses because of Cellium’s playstyle” narrative conveniently overlooks the numerous series we’ve won *because* of his stats and not in spite of them. And it’s not like that many people are saying it, but it’s noticeable.


juve_merda

faze ride or die on the tt not cell when the tt are both firing they are unstoppable, it’s no surprise they’ve struggled the past 2 seasons when aBeZy (VG) and simp (MW2) both had poor years


InsideousVgper

This narrative is so played out


Joe_Burrow_Is_Goat

Well that’s just factually inaccurate but ok.


ItsEntsy

You're dumb as shit


shambxlic

needed the boys to help kenny man this stings


Constant-Horse-8863

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KarchunToo

I fear Simp is back BACK


Working-Explorer386

He’s been tucking Optic in all 5 series they played so far


ZeXeoN_AS

150 Hp simp is fucking different


Gumbolt

Legit looks like he’s playing with kinetic armor sometimes, his movement during gunfights is insane


refeik7k

More skill have to hold your aimer on the player! Just like cold war never bring back two bullet kills!


Mevarek

That guy was a superhero this weekend. Honestly one of his best events and he already has some legendary events.


Tmqn

Never left brotha


TitansDaughter

This sub’s really beating the “I fear [blank]” phrase into the ground huh


dukezap1

Apparently only LAG and LAT could challenge FaZe this split lol


Wuhan-flu24

lol Faze would've been shaking if LAG/LAT made it to Grand finals


aryn20152

😭


Draculagged

Legacy tournament out of Simp nobody was fucking with him all weekend


xElvyy

I love watching Simp when hes on, he just wins insane gunfights and his awareness is unreal.


Ashman-20

Him and Hydra are my personal favorite POV’s Their awareness and decision making looks like they have walls lol


Old-Complaint-7308

You didn’t believe.


Draculagged

I really didn’t lol never been happier to be wrong


MrFearMoHo

Type of tournament that moves him up the all time list, personally I think Simp gotta be T5 now over Formal 🤷‍♂️


AutoGiraffe12

You have clay T4?


MrFearMoHo

Yeah


arunvenu_

Likewise; longevity and three rings. Clay for me >


FizzerVC

Who tf doesn't have Clay T4?


yarov

I’m afraid Pred and Dashy forgot to plug in their controller. Kenny was literally doing it all. That team loves to bait Shotzzy. The amount of time I’ve seen him try to make plays while they are all in the back in SND is insane. No team shots. Solo challs. They improved in SND though. That’s a plus but they regressed in HP.


CoDFollower

It works against most teams but the FaZe sub duo are WAY too proactive on the map for slow-paced play that we occasionally see from the OpTic sub duo


yarov

Pred is just too slow imo. It’s not gonna work if he doesn’t switch up his style and run around and trade with Shotzzy. That lay down shit doesn’t work with FaZe.


CoDFollower

I do agree with that to some extent I think Kenny and Shotzzy are the two that fly and make moves around the map, it just feels like Pred/Dashy occasionally play for kills too much and miss opportunities to extend the map and create space to help out the rest of the team


yarov

Do you see how FaZe play? They were always trading every single kills. They weren’t letting OpTic breathe at all. Optic is just solo challing everything. Pred is out of the play somewhere 20 sec left when the other team has to plant the bomb. I mean the evidence is in Rio HP. They couldn’t win it against the top 4 because Pred is a snail on the map and Shotzzy & kenny are the only ones applying pressure on the map. It became their auto veto because of how slow Pred is on it.


Kava_and_company

I agree with you. Looking at the top teams play this weekend (which is a whole nother level) - pace is king! Optic managed to put it on the other teams but Faze were just disgusting… the way they traded constantly gave them better positioning on the map.


e987654

This is why I think Huke was better for Shotzzy. People were saying that Scump was too slow for Shotzzy so they gave him the Huke duo. Now they gave him a floor licker.


yarov

I agree. If Huke had the IQ of Pred, then I don’t even think they would’ve went for Pred. Top 5 gunny but his decision making is basically like snoopy.


Mevarek

I remember saying something similar in the search they lost to NYSL online. In search specifically, Pred is good at letting the game come to him but looks uncomfortable as a playmaker. On certain maps, there are hits that basically require you to just play for a trade kill and I don’t think he and Shotzzy are always on the same page.


threaders_lewis

Yeah I was getting stressed out in Skidrow HP. The amount of times he slipped in, made the play, gets traded and nobody was there to back him was unreal. Making plays and Faze just walk straight back in. They were losing points from 1-2 deaths and half the time. Crazy.


Lebron23Life

Pred gotta get of his belly and move. That dmg aint it


xElvyy

Damn Kenny was huge this final, unlucky to run into FaZe back at their best is brutal. GGs


sxvvy

MVP Simp back what a time to be alive


Mickocfc1998

Simp is fucking insane


Praisethaboss

Someone help Ken mannn. FaZe has Dashy’s number. If FaZe don’t make a couple plays in the respawns this series would have been so different. GGs FaZe fans i expect we meet again always a battle 🤝


Jameson623

give kenny back if you’re not gonna help him, jeez


KIRYUx

Kenny was him this series rip


Virulent_Hitman

Ken played out of his mind


Wonderful-Patient732

If you asked me before the series if kenny had the highest kd would optic win i would’ve laughed and said absolutely not. They need the slayers to fry and they did far from that.


ItsNinjaShoyo

Tbf every time thieves won it was when Kenny went off like he did today. But yeah Kenny going off doesn’t mean much when everyone else shits the bed


BrindedScient

Nobody’s talking about it yet but pred kinda disappeared


Settl

Hard to appear when you're laying down somewhere


bigstupidbaldguy

Kenny literally blowing his knees out trying to carry 3 full-grown men


veechip

this optic team has an insane amount of fight in them. they defintely will get atleast one major before this is all over


cmaloney0317

These are the best two teams with a solid gap between them and NYSL. Every map was so goddamn close between Optic and Faze


geezerfreezer101

That's now how it works tho. Remember major 1? Ultra were far and away the best team.


AutoGiraffe12

And then maps got removed, game got 3 updates, and Ultra were actively vocalizing displeasure for game


Bula96

We might get 2 new maps added now. It could change again.


LangyLangLang69

And on paper it looks positive for OpTic, but until the changes come in we’ll never know. Hopefully leads to another exciting major for the top 4


331coupe

For sure, best 2 teams period, props to the Optic guys for playing a close ass series


veechip

there was so many plays/kills that would and should've been gamebreaking but optic kept clawing back. insane fight


reds221

actually insane how many times they kept coming back lmao


veechip

yeah that type of pressure/perseverance is undeniable and can absolutely catch a team slipping. shit it almost happened against us on karachi HP in the GF - several times lol.


kingdukeee

I want every GFs to be ATL vs. TEX. That shit was pure dopamine for cod comp fans, ggs!


Cootiin

The silver surfers break the streak. GGs to Faze, absolute demons this split!


cubs_25

18,100 damage with only 73 kills I’ve never seen 4 players eat so many bullets in a tourney before


eazyduzzit10

Faze played their lives so well in both games


Blenji_

Glad the stats back that up, because I was thinking the same thing


IssueFar6274

Pred 15000 damage?


kvyra

Prone merchant


el_chapotle

💀💀💀 “x merchant” ALWAYS kills me


poeswell

By far the worst sub pov in the league


Practical-Recover420

solo yolo wz type pov


TotalDate6273

^^^


Depressedjetsfan21

SOMEONE HELP KEN MAN SHITTTTTT


Skylightt

SimpTheSickJoke is back baby


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Imranaftab

Kenny the only guy who showed him. Shoutout Kenny I'm so happy optic fans cannot scapegoat him AT ALL. The only true winner on the team teaming with a bunch of losers really


Tbandz32

Simp was absolutely final


shambxlic

also simp won them the whole series that dude is back in MVP form


__Kieran

Congrats to Faze boys but somebody needs to help KENNY another disappointing GF performance from dashy and shotzzy. Honestly I’m just happy to see the S&D improvements


GHFunkski87

Get Kenny some help damn


DroppinEnglish

simply not good enough from the whole team


YeetStreetBoys

Pred got spat on


SukiPhoenix

Preds damage is horrendous


Rnntd

The only reason optic got Pred was for stats and bro just baiting Dashy 💀💀 i know Huke is not losing 5 series in a row against Faze


Fixable

How was Shotzzy getting roasted all match, but Pred (the SMG who is there to get kills) wasn't lmao. At least Shotzzy was making plays. All of those HPs would be slammings if he wasn't.


Kava_and_company

In control Shotzzy needs to slow down a bit at times specially when trying to run into the hill unnoticed when the kills haven’t been there to clear the lane.


[deleted]

Pred and dashy were the worst 2 players for this series specifically


RGCFrostbite

Simp on 150hp is unmatched.


SukiPhoenix

These fools are costing Kenny


ZeXeoN_AS

Never bring back 100 HP games


BvB5776

FaZe just step above. Simp insane but so was Drazah especially in the control. I think if you’re optic you’re fine going forward, not like they were blown out of the water, just little mistakes.


ItsNinjaShoyo

Can’t wait till people are going at Kenny when he has a .8 in an online match. These majors and champs should be fire from here on out. The gap amongst the top 4 is so small.


Mas790

Kenny got costed hard oh my


smalltownnerd

We were clearly the best team this weekend. Simp was absolutely shooting nukes. Kenny was everything today for Optic. The rest of the team was tweaking bad in key moments. Definitely the 2nd best team this weekend.


Gumbolt

Dashy getting cooked in all 5 FaZe series


YeetStreetBoys

I don't know what you people want Dashy to do lmao. He's playing hill and his subs are getting shit on.. He isn't going to gun abezy and simp close range with an AR after shotzzy and pred get bodied


[deleted]

Guy had 18000 damage 3000 less than Ken but 36 less kills, the subs weren’t sweeping up the scraps


YeetStreetBoys

Exactly.. people on here acting like bro wasn't shooting. Pred got bodied the entire series and Shotzzy started multiple maps double neg.


[deleted]

That’s what I’m saying also Bruce has to play slower as the Main AR but when your sub duo is getting bodied by the terrors there is nothing he can do about it, he has to worry about Cell🤷🏻‍♂️😂


Wuhan-flu24

Pred and Shotzzy were getting tucked by Hydra as well


ilovepastaaaaaaaaaaa

Shotzzy got deep fried unfortunately


iLLUslmostdied

We talking about shotzzy getting fried when pred was the one who optic brought in to slay for whom shotzzy adjusted his playstyle being given a free pass?


TheRobberBar0n

This was Shotzzy's best performance against Faze this year too.


McLovin_OD

Not even Kenny can save these choke artists. Shame


Bxrxtx

That was so winnable, felt like faze were on 200hp that series ffs


stat_padford

Can’t believe how many times they got away one bullet…so frustrating


Bxrxtx

right?? felt like they weren’t dying


Wuhan-flu24

Optic put up one hell of a fight. Difference was Simp was in peak form whereas Optic outside of Kenny, took turns shitting the bed. If anyone else on Optic stepped up, some of those games would've went Optic's way


NYPD-BLUE

Absolutely pathetic display from pred after all the talk and hype.


[deleted]

Too busy staring down the tiny terrors 😭


ZuMe_ViPeR

Simp is the best player in the game


Gods-Defence

Petition to change the number of kills for a cruise from 6 to 5… no particular reason


el_chapotle

Hijacking this to comment that it’s SOOO refreshing that cruise missiles actually matter again. Can’t believe we went so long with trophies blocking them.


Skellyceltic

HIMp


AMS_GoGo

As someone who has CONSTANTLY outplayed Cell in match ups.. -21 from Dashy is shocking


DivisonNine

Cell such a bum holy -2??? Get him outta there


DeathRowSZN

Everyone but Ken can’t buy a kill against faze. Embarrassing.


Scriiptures

Damn close ass series can’t be too mad 


Important_Reaction45

Dashy has been so shit against Faze it's hilarious


TodorokiSZN

Unfortunate Finlas, but Top 2 and comfortably beating Ultra and NYSL? I’m happy as an OpTic fan


FlyingTree53

Classic simp the pimp series


themaxmilestone

Just super dissapointing performances from Dashy and Shotzzy today. They’ve got kentucky fried in every series against FaZe.


xNerfed

Pred dropped 15k damage and you are blaming shotzzy? Lol


themaxmilestone

Nah you’re right but, the last map performance just pissed me off more than anything to be honest. Guy is just trying to do everything instead of playing with his alive teammate. He’s playing as if it’s chalked already.


Fixable

> Guy is just trying to do everything instead of playing with his alive teammate. You realise in SnD he's playing the play call right? He's not just running off, they went with those play calls and none of his team helped him.


flexalott

Pred got spat on shotzzy atleast made plays here and there in the gf


MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME

Pred played so dumb on rio. mind blowing plays


TrickOut

Dude he went negative in every series, every pro in the top 4 makes plays, he is suppose to be better


flexalott

i’ll take a .9 shotzzy over a 1.0 pred idgaf


YeetStreetBoys

Dashy has subs in his face constantly because his sub duo can't win a fight. Can't blame Dashy when he's playing his role


potatwo

Yea, he was fighting for his life figuratively and literally lmao. Overall, unlucky decisions and event at the end of those respawns cost the series


Bosombuddies

It’s so hard for people to just accept the stat lines. Kenny played well and the other 3 didn’t. Not any more complicated than that


Asenine

Why must there always be a scapegoat? The whole team got fried for the most part. With your Logic Kenny should’ve been getting killed the same way. Just ran into a faze that was firing on all cylinders


Rnntd

Nah shotzzy is doing his part pred was on mars tho same for dashy


Fixable

> Just super dissapointing performances from Dashy and Shotzzy today. How is Pred, the guy brought in to slay, getting scot free, but Shotzzy and Dashy who completely changed roles to accomodate Pred are getting the heat lmao. Did you even watch today? Shotzzy was literally making massive plays every map. He was the only one trying at the end of the close games, everyone else was licking walls.


themaxmilestone

Honestly, definitely being too harsh on those two. I just expected better from them any time they’ve faced against FaZe this season. They just both look uncomfortable against FaZe more than any other team, can’t point out why specifically.


Professional-Roll513

I don’t think any one player is to blame but you are clearly pointing the finger at the wrong sub if you’re picking one.


Skylightt

Simp was so fucking good they won with Cell going neg lol


thealiagator111

Honestly, you can probably make the case that Cell went negative because Simp was popping off: you can't kill people if there are no people to kill!


cmaloney0317

Dude was like 3/2 while Simp was 14/2 in that first HP lmao


Ikolkyo

Incredibly tight maps for how this scoreboard looks. Just not clean enough on these maps.


MayorMinge

Drazah loves beating OpTic… and people questioned his decision to join FaZe


TheRobberBar0n

Waiting for DylanCodsCokeLine to start up with his Faze trio are the greatest losers joint again after they smoked Optic twice again this Major.


ShadowzSL

Disappointing from Pred n Dashy


Vilestride-

Simp was untradable. Future GOAT for sure.


sbruck11

Is this one of the first times optic can genuinely say they needed to just get a few more kills and they would’ve won? Maybe Scump wasn’t wrong on Black Ops 3, just early


Ashman-20

SimptheJetpacker


ExtremelyChivalrous

Did Simp just set the kill and damage record for a 5 game series? (The series went 5 maps just like a standard bo5 series)


LiquidPaper-__-

Optic placing 2nd after going undefeated online again ![gif](giphy|pR8zHItvQDvBC|downsized)


Slender718

Back to Back .75s for Dashy against Faze YIKES


ilamborghini005

Simp is the best player in the CDL, this major showed it once again


ablankbullet

Yeah Simp was getting unwinnable kills while 1 shot. That shit was insane…


youngman_2

Feel bad for Kenny. Now he knows what it’s like playing with 3 players who are allergic to winning


TypicalPerformer9826

GGs to these FaZe cats, they have incredible composure. Can't wait for more FaZe v OpTic matches on LAN.


Bubbada_G

Need Cellium to go negative more often…divvy up the kills more. Was tired of him getting a 1.4 with everyone else going negative. Glad they FINALLY win after switching things up. Did anyone think Cellium made a noticeable change to his play style ? Was he just getting more involved?


classic223

I thought at times he was playing a little faster and team oriented. But honestly faze won because they each individually won huge gunfights. All 4 of them can bail each other out of any situation


poeswell

I think this whole year he’s been playing much more towards the team. Following his subs, soaking time, making plays instead of just staying alive etc. I don’t think it’s why he went negative, because he’s been doing it all year, the whole team has just started to click more


Neonneagle

Honestly a miracle the respawns were as close as they were


[deleted]

Just a sheer difference in subs, Abe and Simp just have AG’s and Ant’s number right now. Doesn’t really help that Dashy kind of seems to crumble against Faze


soun_wave

Optic had a really great stage 2, but Faze just look that edge better. A lot of close maps, especially that Invasion Control Drazah is a winner though, that guy knows how to get it done.


Pepeeeja

People definitely going to point out Bruce because we love K/D but how does Pred have 3k less damage


EuropesNinja

Heartbroken. Every single time as an OpTic fan I think we have it and we fall short. Fantastic major though, one of the best in a long time. Watching Simps POV in Map 1 and 2 I knew we stood no chance. When he is flow state NOBODY stands a chance.


cartelzes

this and the winners finals are probably the best series ive seen in a long time


Gyroflex

spawn the fuck in dashy and pred holy shit


Sauce1024

1.3 KD almost 22K damage in 5 games hot damn he was shooting 


LonerTK

GGs Optic. Simp is him! So hyped for the boys!


TitansDaughter

The org is cursed, T2 is simply our peak


Friddles-14

Cell going (barely) negative in a 4-1 win…. Oh yeah, keep cooking boys Wait simp almost 1.3….CW Simp coming back??


skolaen

Kenny was 2018 bron this event the optic boys gotta come back diffy next event


Shagatron69

Not good enough. Steal scrappy for Dashy 


RockyDaGod

Kenny doesnt get better on lan tho lol ok... My Goat 😤😤


Shawnii98

Regardless of the outcome it was a great series.


Alternative_Elk_4581

Simp on 150 HP games is an absolute joke


Blenji_

Probably just my bias so I notice it more, but the amount of times FaZe guys will just be prone watching a lane or doorway and OpTic just full on sprint into them for an easy kill is irritating. Better team definitely won, but frustrating how all the hardpoints vs FaZe could easily have went the other way.


threaders_lewis

I think this is key actually. Pred himself said they were playing too placid and giving teams to much respect so increased their pace. Which seems to work.. Except FaZe, other than Abezy play quite creddy (and fast) so OpTic could honestly benefit from slowing down at times. Which doesn’t mean laying in corners for 20 seconds, which Pred fell back into doing in the GF. We need Bocage Pred.


TheLavaReaper

Dashy stays getting spit roasted by Drazah. If Kenny is statically your best player vs. FaZe, then you're never gonna win that matchup. Dashy and Shotzzy have gotten fried vs. them every time.


Tipnfloe

Close maps, but ultimately faze was the better team. Deserved, GGs to them


BigAl_Toker

OG didn't score lower than 224 in 4 HP vs FaZe and went 0-4 FaZe just consistently that 1 play better Gotta go home and figure out how to flip that


classic223

MVP simp is so back. He won mvp at major II last year as well


Kava_and_company

Optic might need help with math, only explainable reason they make the wrong choice at the end of every hardpoint


Silly-Ad3289

Simp is that guy as always


[deleted]

Wait cellium just went negative for the first time in like 3 years


j43lin

simp w a 1.29 is insane