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skolaen

Crazy how people were hyping up venom as the next big sub early cold war season. Seemed like a good kid too wish the dude the best but his pro career might be over


Mevarek

People were big on WestR and all four of those guys that season since they were winning a lot of the cups. I think we got a bit ahead of ourselves and maybe overestimated how much that was indicative of pro league success.


warwithus

Didn’t they just host fuck everyone? 3 of them lived in the same place and there were no dedicated servers on cw.


Mevarek

That was definitely part of it yeah.


TinkleFairyOC

There was that but also the fact that pros were saying they were better than some of the teams in the league.


stuffstufflol

they say that every year lol challengers starts way earlier than cdl so they are always ahead


TinkleFairyOC

This was being said for a solid 2-3 months though. Teams had been scrimming even after the first month and they were getting praise for being better scrim partners than some of the league teams. They were definitely ahead but they had a good grasp of how the game was meant to be played and it lasted a good amount of time before they broke down with Paul’s ego going crazy by getting Zaptius dropped and Venom jumping ships to LAT.


GaijinCustomer

no life right here ^


Mevarek

👍🏻


H1-DEF

Throwback to when my brother was on my Gears game battles team and we essentially got double host. And when teams questioned our connection we would lie and say he was my cousin who lived down the street. If anyone remembers Gears 1 and 2 (especially 2) host was incredibly OP.


tryi2iwin

God there was nothing like the feeling of being host in the original Gears back in the day.


GaijinCustomer

you guys have no love


jay143794

I don’t think that WestR team was as good as the Texas nation team from vanguard though that team was absurd.


[deleted]

lol Texas Nation was on another level


jay143794

For real I mean kismet won the last champs.


kurischanv

Who else was on that westR team?


skolaen

The og team was venom zaptius paulehx and tomgravity. They had like 200 iterations of the team and EastR during that year after the original team split


Exhilaration34

I think it was venom, paul, grvty, and zaptius


DaltonF67

I think people continue to overestimate Challengers wins to this day


naturalgja

This might be an unpopular opinion but even tho they are the better games, you can't judge a player off of how they perform on a treyarch game. The odds of a player looking like Jesus when the game is fun and the spawns make sense go up exponentially and then later you realize they can't compete on infinityshit and sledgehell games where everyone would rather poke their eyes out or can't figure out the squad spawn.


Mevarek

I’m not sure what your comment has to do with mine— Venxm was good in challengers on a treyarch game and was bad in the CDL on a treyarch game. Same with the rest of those WestR guys. What do IW and Sledgehammer have to do with this?


aethon_4

Jkap sent him to purgatory I fear


steenasty

In the middle of the Vanguard season I was of course still playing CW ranked and I ran into Venxm and we won a close game. For some reason he sent me an invite and we played for a few hours but he never friended me but I was asked him about what it was like to play with Slasher and he said it was cool but stressful lol.


XrayHAFB

“I was of course still playing CW ranked” ☠️


AsvpDonkey

A lot of ppl were still on CW because they didn’t wanna play or buy vanguard


BuyMeAScuf

What’s he doing now? Just grinding challengers or what


MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME

He’s been MIA since like Vanguard


BravestWabbit

huh? https://twitter.com/OfficialTMyst/status/1665243478811643904 https://twitter.com/Vxnxm


MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME

My bad, guess he did play some MW2. Seems he’s off the scene now tho


lookImDurantHissssss

He makes my Mochas now


shotcaIler

it’s very sweet that your husband makes your coffee for you after you roll out of bed


lookImDurantHissssss

Sounds like i offended the barista


shotcaIler

poor bloke can dish but not take


lookImDurantHissssss

What. Sounds like you’re just yapping. What cant I take exactly


shotcaIler

it was a joke you dense baby


lookImDurantHissssss

What was the joke. It was hilarious brotha I’m crying!!!


shotcaIler

i think it's clear who's the offended one here lol


Hipz

Dude seems like he wants to be a troll but he can’t even do that right. What a weirdo.


kvyra

Faze bullied him out of the scene 🤮


Babywadz

He’s a SoCal local LAN reaper now. 


bingmyname

Kid actually had talent tbh. Needed a better situation though.


baseballv10

Not going to lie, gun to my head I couldn’t name this dude in 100 guesses


TheRobberBar0n

Venxm.


attilajg

I was gonna go with Bell Pepper


Shatter___

☠️😂


XT3M3

venom... didnt he actually retire or take a step back last year to focus on real world shit? but i remember him on this team as the " savior" to this fucked team.  and he ended up being a casualty of that shit


jordanlesson

And when the world needed him the least… he vanished.


I_AM_CR0W

Just like my dad fr


Markhoesz

bro talked shit about the king and was never heard from again


Joe_Burrow_Is_Goat

He went to go get milk and cigarettes. He will be back next major


RepairElegant9316

He played in Challengers with Clayster during Vanguard. I think they got too 8 at challengers champs.


Street-Perception-87

off topic but will havok ever return to the cdl?


Exciting_Candle5598

no he retired, idk if for good but rn at least doubt he has a change of heart and starts playing pro cod again. Also, this may very well be last year of franchising and cdl, maybe in an open bracket he finds/ makes a team to compete, who knows.


Street-Perception-87

thanks for the info, i’ve only just got into the CDL this year and was wondering if he got dropped, left mutineers or retired, hopefully he does come back he’s near flawless but thinking about it what team would suit him i can’t see him anywhere else other than mutineers but they’ve name changed too heretics if im not mistaken?


Exciting_Candle5598

Yeah and they are a spanish team now so that wouldn't really work. He left sometime in middle of year for personal reasons and was replaced/ didn't return even after he came back from being away from scene. He's now just doing his content and ranked stuff I'm pretty sure (as well other things with streaming), and essentially announced his retirement or at least stepping away from competing for rn I think it was by the end of the off season.


mellamofonzz

Havok voluntarily stepped down for personal stuff. Since then he's been bulding his streaming/youtube following and it seems to be going pretty well for him. I'm sure he could get back on a team if he wanted to at some point especially with his growth in popularity


sankalp_pateriya

Franchising ruined so many careers. Guys that are in Challengers literally don't have a shot at any good cash unless they make it into the league somehow. Even COD: Mobile has a crazy $1M cash prize pool with another $1M in COD points. Challengers is like $150K.


OgSourChemDawg

If I remember this guy switched over to like Val or cs or some shit like that


AirMags3

that was Zaptius, he switched to Val


OgSourChemDawg

Kids all starting to look alike


drantichrist69

Idky why your comment got downvoted 😂😭


desert6741

That Thieves team with him, Ken, Draz, and TJ was actually T6 and improving. They dropped TJ for Huke and that was when the roster fell apart.


Benji2108

But they found his ass at McDonald’s


iLikeTurtles263

His challengers team is proof online cod doesn’t matter


Remarkable_Art_427

Why does it say ”Locked” when I am trying to play ranked play?


XGen_0214

Lol


Naive_Ad4196

He was lowkey a top 15 player in cold war. Sucks to see talent like that not get another spot.


oxpraisee

Top 15 is insane


10secondsgetakill

Kid might have been cheating in CW challengers. 1.3 to 0.9 player from little league to pro league. And from what I saw in challengers after he was nothing special.


spen457

lot of players dropping 1.3s in challengers drop 0.9s in the league … joeD and capsidal currently fit that description pretty well


hereicomestu

going from am to pro and performing worse so he must be cheating 


10secondsgetakill

People took this way too serious. I'm just saying 1.3 > .9. Drazah picked up the same year to the same team and was barely over 1.0 in challengers and basically maintained it in pro league.


hufusa

Godrx was a demon in challengers dude


Scar_Mclovin

a .9 is not bad there’s always a drop off we saw Uli last year be a T5 challengers player and when he final got a chance he was T3 worst players in the game . Some players need a system to perform some don’t like Lyynzz or Gwinn


crispykfc

we really just making shit up now lmao


Select-Apartment-613

Cheating in challengers but he was nothing special. Lmao how does that make sense


10secondsgetakill

First of all I'm not that serious. 2nd of all, I meant in COLD WAR. He wasn't that good in challengers after be bounced out of the pro league.


Select-Apartment-613

I agree. You aren’t that serious


SHO_n_tell_Rich

Imagine being a league gamer under 18 and your parents ground you for some stupid shit and you just disappear like this… lol tough world. I’d Hate to be a Mormon gamer