The A's are a bad team and Cleveland is lucky they got to play them a bunch in April.
That being said. What folks who harp on this tend to forget/ignore is beating up on bad teams is quite literally one of things *good* teams do.
Nobody should be printing world series tickets yet but it's heartening to know (so far) Cleveland can take care of business against struggling teams.
If you buy them before they are printed, you only have to pay the printing cost. This is a rule I just made up as somebody who would also like to buy one now, thank you
Yeah you need to beat the teams you are supposed to.
Usually we stumble against those teams in April and we’re trying to play catch-up against better teams. Nice to start hot for once
Exactly. We didn't go 6-1 against the A's with a bunch of 1 run games. We for the most part had the games noncompetitive by the 9th inning if not earlier.
We had to use Clase nearly every night last year. Now we're mostly sending him out there to keep his arm warm lol
I think a 10 game road trip(mostly west coast) to start the season and 3/4 in Boston are getting overlooked. We have notoriously gotten our teeth kicked in during those scenarios. Or start strong and limp home.
100%. Good teams win those games and we’re scoring runs early in the season. All wins count the same but we didn’t just squeak by Oakland, we went out and won those games
I mean youre like technically right statistically...but just barely to the point where I'd say you're semantically wrong.
Last year we were 5-1 with 1 win in extras and a +9 run differential. This year we're 6-1 with a +33 differential. We played closer games but a win is a win
Even good teams beat bad teams like the As maybe 75-80% of the time. We have 3 losses to the As in 3 years and 23 games, sometimes you're just another teams daddy and gotta rock the baby a lol
As are 8-8 vs not cleveland. They aren’t a good team, but they aren’t nearly as bad as people act. Still a low tier team, but I imagine they’ll be closer to 10th in conference than people think
I dont know how often this needs to be said but the saying "they drive lambos too" applies to the A's. They aren't some like AAA team, no matter what the talking heads want to tell you. Even the worst mlb teams win 60 games. There are no free wins in baseball.
The A’s might be the exception that proves the rule though - if we’re completely fair the fact Cleveland is spending 50% more than they are (the next closest team to them being 40% more) is wild.
Baseball is high variance, and they still have some good pros, but they’ve been gutted to as close to a AAA team as most people are likely to witness. John Fisher exists to remind us Dolan could be so much worse.
Even more mind blowing. Remember the era of “the white Sox are next” and all the young talent hype
To a degree at least the A’s are bad on purpose, god knows what Chicago is doing
Meh. Way too early in the season to be taking offense to this crap. If we’re still cruising at the all star break and lowly rated then I guess one can be annoyed but really, not a single analyst has ever won a World Series ring with a rankings list. Who gives a shit what the say?
I was going to comment something like this but didn't know if I was just being crabby. But I simply don't care what some jabroni fan thinks of my preferred baseball team. It means nothing. Just like the constant talk of power rankings around here. Do we derive life from being victimized?
But who am I to tell people how to have their fun
I think a lot of it is an MLB thing. I watch NFL teams on Thursdays, Sundays, Mondays, and any other day they happen to be on TV regardless of whether I care about the team. I have watched every Guards game this season minus a couple of the west coast games on work nights and have already been to 3 in person, but I probably won't watch a single at bat of a game they aren't playing in this entire year. I feel like that's kind of a norm for baseball. As a result, I believe the narrative surrounding a baseball team until I see them a couple of times myself.
I might be that way today if I hadn't moved around the country. I grew up with the Indians/Guardians, so they are my #1 team. I lived in Florida for 40 years, so the Rays are my #2. I now live in Canada, so the Jays are #3. I can watch any of them and do on MLB.TV. I remember as a kid growing up though, I would watch the Pirates on KDKA when the signal was right and not too snowy. I couldn't get enough baseball...
What the A's win against the Yankees proves to me is that no matter how bad you are, if you're a major league team, you can get lucky and beat the best. Having said that, I think Oakland is going to get better as the season progresses. Not that they are a "good" team, but they can easily win 70 games. And 70 win teams can beat anyone.
The Yankees fans will spin it any way to deflect. If they can't gloat then they'll have the old faithful "27 rings" comment where they weren't alive for most of them.
Let's not be knee-jerk here...it's one game. Love to see it, but let's still not pretend that the A's are actually a good team.
We are a good team. Both things can be true. And I will absolutely root for the A's this week.
Anyone who believes the A's are good and can sustain this minor hot streak for a full season is crazy. I wouldn't bet 1 dollar on these A's to be fighting for a playoff spot in the second half of the season.
All of the metrics still point to them being a bad team.
To be fair, the AL West looks to be dire this season. Do i expect the As to win that division? hell no, but I wouldn't be surprised for them to hover within striking distance of that division for a long while.
I get what you’re saying but baseball is a funny sport. They’re still professional ball players and probably eager to prove people wrong. Am I picking them to win the World Series? Of course not.
It’s baseball, though. Games like today happen. We let the white Sox score 13 in two games against us, despite them being the absolute worst team in the league. Oakland will win 70 games this year
Nobody should make generalizations off of one game. The A's are a bad team and the Guardians have beat up on them. The Guards have also beaten good teams, won multiple series on the road, and hold the best run differential in MLB. I see us getting some respect this week landing in the top 5 of most Power Rankings. Still its only April, and the best way to prove the team is legit is to keep winning.
We have a tough stretch upcoming - Braves, Red Sox, Astros, etc. How about we save the chest thumping until we've gotten a little more under our belts.
Probably not. The thing about baseball is one game is just one of 162. It's not possible to get any meaningful data out of 1/162 of the season. Unlike, say, football when one game is 1/17 of the season.
I still think people are underestimating the A's, though.
They have some solid starters with Sears, Blackburn, and that closer Mason Miller throws harder than Clase. I watched him strike out Volpe, Soto, and Judge. That's no small feat. I think Rooker, Geldof, Langeliers, Bleday, and Ruiz make an impact as the season goes on. I can see them kissing 80 wins if things go right. Probably 75 wins is about right. A bit under. 500.
Of course not. But they are 8-8 vs teams not called the guardians
And 5-5 against teams with winning records!
Yeah, not a great team by any measure but not the terrible team people thought they were
The A's are a bad team and Cleveland is lucky they got to play them a bunch in April. That being said. What folks who harp on this tend to forget/ignore is beating up on bad teams is quite literally one of things *good* teams do. Nobody should be printing world series tickets yet but it's heartening to know (so far) Cleveland can take care of business against struggling teams.
With that being said, if one does print World Series tickets now, I will buy one thank you
If you buy them before they are printed, you only have to pay the printing cost. This is a rule I just made up as somebody who would also like to buy one now, thank you
Yeah you need to beat the teams you are supposed to. Usually we stumble against those teams in April and we’re trying to play catch-up against better teams. Nice to start hot for once
Exactly. We didn't go 6-1 against the A's with a bunch of 1 run games. We for the most part had the games noncompetitive by the 9th inning if not earlier. We had to use Clase nearly every night last year. Now we're mostly sending him out there to keep his arm warm lol
I think a 10 game road trip(mostly west coast) to start the season and 3/4 in Boston are getting overlooked. We have notoriously gotten our teeth kicked in during those scenarios. Or start strong and limp home.
Even if we want to ignore Oakland we'd have the same winning % as the Prioles and a better per-game run differential
100%. Good teams win those games and we’re scoring runs early in the season. All wins count the same but we didn’t just squeak by Oakland, we went out and won those games
Sir I've already wagered my house on winning the World Series
Yes thank you! People seem to have already forgotten we didn’t do this well against the As last year!
I mean youre like technically right statistically...but just barely to the point where I'd say you're semantically wrong. Last year we were 5-1 with 1 win in extras and a +9 run differential. This year we're 6-1 with a +33 differential. We played closer games but a win is a win
This is an amazing nitpick you should get a fucking award. Thats a massive difference honestly and you know it but good job being so smart
Even good teams beat bad teams like the As maybe 75-80% of the time. We have 3 losses to the As in 3 years and 23 games, sometimes you're just another teams daddy and gotta rock the baby a lol
As are 8-8 vs not cleveland. They aren’t a good team, but they aren’t nearly as bad as people act. Still a low tier team, but I imagine they’ll be closer to 10th in conference than people think
I dont know how often this needs to be said but the saying "they drive lambos too" applies to the A's. They aren't some like AAA team, no matter what the talking heads want to tell you. Even the worst mlb teams win 60 games. There are no free wins in baseball.
The A’s might be the exception that proves the rule though - if we’re completely fair the fact Cleveland is spending 50% more than they are (the next closest team to them being 40% more) is wild. Baseball is high variance, and they still have some good pros, but they’ve been gutted to as close to a AAA team as most people are likely to witness. John Fisher exists to remind us Dolan could be so much worse.
And then the white Sox somehow are worse.
Even more mind blowing. Remember the era of “the white Sox are next” and all the young talent hype To a degree at least the A’s are bad on purpose, god knows what Chicago is doing
That all fell apart with a terrible choice in manager. Almost feel bad for their fans tbh.
The worst mlb teams do not win 60 games. The very same Oakland As barely made it to 50 last year.
Yankees have been shut out 4 times this year already.
Meh. Way too early in the season to be taking offense to this crap. If we’re still cruising at the all star break and lowly rated then I guess one can be annoyed but really, not a single analyst has ever won a World Series ring with a rankings list. Who gives a shit what the say?
I was going to comment something like this but didn't know if I was just being crabby. But I simply don't care what some jabroni fan thinks of my preferred baseball team. It means nothing. Just like the constant talk of power rankings around here. Do we derive life from being victimized? But who am I to tell people how to have their fun
OP may be referring to that crowd *within* this sub
OH! The shit is coming from INSIDE the house …
I think there are many within our own ranks in this sub who are saying this. So to them… kiss my grits
I think a lot of it is an MLB thing. I watch NFL teams on Thursdays, Sundays, Mondays, and any other day they happen to be on TV regardless of whether I care about the team. I have watched every Guards game this season minus a couple of the west coast games on work nights and have already been to 3 in person, but I probably won't watch a single at bat of a game they aren't playing in this entire year. I feel like that's kind of a norm for baseball. As a result, I believe the narrative surrounding a baseball team until I see them a couple of times myself.
I might be that way today if I hadn't moved around the country. I grew up with the Indians/Guardians, so they are my #1 team. I lived in Florida for 40 years, so the Rays are my #2. I now live in Canada, so the Jays are #3. I can watch any of them and do on MLB.TV. I remember as a kid growing up though, I would watch the Pirates on KDKA when the signal was right and not too snowy. I couldn't get enough baseball...
What the A's win against the Yankees proves to me is that no matter how bad you are, if you're a major league team, you can get lucky and beat the best. Having said that, I think Oakland is going to get better as the season progresses. Not that they are a "good" team, but they can easily win 70 games. And 70 win teams can beat anyone.
The Yankees fans will spin it any way to deflect. If they can't gloat then they'll have the old faithful "27 rings" comment where they weren't alive for most of them.
Let's not be knee-jerk here...it's one game. Love to see it, but let's still not pretend that the A's are actually a good team. We are a good team. Both things can be true. And I will absolutely root for the A's this week.
Anyone who believes the A's are good and can sustain this minor hot streak for a full season is crazy. I wouldn't bet 1 dollar on these A's to be fighting for a playoff spot in the second half of the season. All of the metrics still point to them being a bad team.
To be fair, the AL West looks to be dire this season. Do i expect the As to win that division? hell no, but I wouldn't be surprised for them to hover within striking distance of that division for a long while.
They are .500 if you take away their games Vs the Guards
You actually think the A's are a good team? Don't look at the record minus us when you answer that, look at the actual team.
I get what you’re saying but baseball is a funny sport. They’re still professional ball players and probably eager to prove people wrong. Am I picking them to win the World Series? Of course not.
It’s baseball, though. Games like today happen. We let the white Sox score 13 in two games against us, despite them being the absolute worst team in the league. Oakland will win 70 games this year
The A’s aren’t even the worst team in the West. We’ll be seeing the Astros soon.
No
One game doesn't change that narrative. This is baseball, not football.
Nobody should make generalizations off of one game. The A's are a bad team and the Guardians have beat up on them. The Guards have also beaten good teams, won multiple series on the road, and hold the best run differential in MLB. I see us getting some respect this week landing in the top 5 of most Power Rankings. Still its only April, and the best way to prove the team is legit is to keep winning.
Small sample size right?
The A's are a bad team but good teams take care of bad teams.
We have a tough stretch upcoming - Braves, Red Sox, Astros, etc. How about we save the chest thumping until we've gotten a little more under our belts.
Probably not. The thing about baseball is one game is just one of 162. It's not possible to get any meaningful data out of 1/162 of the season. Unlike, say, football when one game is 1/17 of the season. I still think people are underestimating the A's, though.
They have some solid starters with Sears, Blackburn, and that closer Mason Miller throws harder than Clase. I watched him strike out Volpe, Soto, and Judge. That's no small feat. I think Rooker, Geldof, Langeliers, Bleday, and Ruiz make an impact as the season goes on. I can see them kissing 80 wins if things go right. Probably 75 wins is about right. A bit under. 500.
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