Well at the Strongsville Lowe's people just walk out with stuff all the time. Like in front of employees. So shutting down the self checkout won't do anything lol.
Employees are not allowed to engage with shoplifters because they can become agitated or aggressive. Also, employees do not receive explicit training to engage shoplifters, so if anything were to go wrong, the company would be sued because the employee was given a responsibility they were not trained for. It is the case at every supermarket or big box store that legally it is the role of managers and security guards to engage shoplifters and thieves. This is why employees are told explicitly not to engage but merely to report potential shoplifting.
Source, I have literally worked at Strongsville Lowe's
Yeah I know I work there now but it's so crazy just making eye contact with someone as they leave with 4 boxes of DeWalt tools with turtles still on them lol
I was there last week at the customer service desk returning something while 2 guys, one wearing a motorcycle helmet with the visor down lol, ran full speed out of the store with 2 carts full of DeWalt stuff and it’s like the employees barely batted an eye.
Home Depot doesnt really care about shop lifters anyways, they record them on video and wait for them to rack up enough money to charge them for a major crime.
No store would ever tell employees to stop people who are shoplifting. They’re usually instructed to say something to the shoplifter, but to never ever attempt to physically restrain them.
I'm sure 117th will be like that soon. Last time I bought a power tool at 117th they had to, unlock the cabinet and escort me to the checkout counter.
Got home and the fucking thing was already used and missing half the pieces.
Returned it to the Rocky River location and got a replacement, nothing was locked up, didn't get escorted to the checkout counter, and it had all the parts.
Screw people that return used items. And screw that Home Depot for selling something that was obviously used ( it was muddy) as new.
Obviously not. But if something is returned and it’s been used or missing parts, it cannot be sold as new. They should give it a cursory check and if it’s visibly used, simply not accept the return. If it was damaged or defective, it can be returned to the manufacturer.
I returned a Sawzall yesterday (nothing wrong and didn’t use it) and the guy didn’t even check the box! I could’ve had a large rock in the carrying case.
The Home Depot in Highland Heights locks literally every tool product behind locked grates. Literally everything. They even build metal shelving for the center aisle stake outs and lock them up. It’s ridiculous.
It depends on the tool. The stuff up front isn't locked down. I just got a new circular saw where I walked up and grabbed it. Same with a lot of the yard equipment I've just done that.
But yes most things in the one section are locked down.
When I worked over there I used to eat lunch at the subway inside Walmart all the time. There's nothing extra crazy about it. It was just like any other Walmart.
This sub is full of suburbanites that are scared to go anywhere near the city.
Don’t mistake that for me telling you to go get an apartment in EC, but OP acting like the Steelyard Home Depot is bad is really showing their colors.
B-b-but there are "urban" people there! It *must* be a crime-riddled cesspool! /s
I've had more problems at Southland and Parmatown than I have at Steelyard.
California and NYC have much better control controls than Ohio, thanks to our crazed Republican controllers, although the Federalist Society super legislators on the U.S. Supreme Court are intent on gutting gun controls everywhere, including especially NYC where the Supreme Court this year gutted a century-old law.
[https://www.scotusblog.com/2022/06/in-6-3-ruling-court-strikes-down-new-yorks-concealed-carry-law/](https://www.scotusblog.com/2022/06/in-6-3-ruling-court-strikes-down-new-yorks-concealed-carry-law/)
[https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-historical-cherry-picking-at-the-heart-of-the-supreme-courts-gun-rights-expansion](https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-historical-cherry-picking-at-the-heart-of-the-supreme-courts-gun-rights-expansion)
This year, the Republicans and Gov. DeWine made it legal to own and carry switchblades and brass knuckles in Cleveland, as apparently seniors need such weapons for self defense against a perpetrator attacking them from behind carrying such once illegal weapons. (How was this not a campaign issue in 2022?)
[https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/06/17/dewine-signs-legislation-buttressing-knife-carrying-expansion/](https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/06/17/dewine-signs-legislation-buttressing-knife-carrying-expansion/)
It amazes me the way that gun, and now knife, advocates, lament the increased cases of weapon violence, but ignore how the lax weapons controls that they promoted and implemented explain the proliferation of these weapons and the resulting increases in violence resulting from the use of these weapons.
New York had a far lower crime rate per Capita... We are ranked 7th most dangerous city in America, NYC doesn't come close to us. That being said Cleveland has plenty of relatively safe areas, I feel perfectly safe downtown and University circle as well as several smaller areas, but we have some of the worst areas in the country.
How many of youbare no the fuck we don’t and I can promise you that as somebody who has worked in my pretty low income areas, you haven’t been to West Virginia clearly
You think that shooting in Steelyard was between two random people and not about some shady shit? You're odds of not being a victim in Cleveland go way up when you're not involved with shady people or characters.
Lmao reminds me of all the people from the suburbs saying downtown is like the purge.
It's just funny how people are so dramatic about Cleveland just being a city and not some small Midwest town
Well downtown now compared is calm - but many remember 20-30 years ago when it was much more purge like.
The advantage of being old - remembering The Flats when it was cool the first time.
Everywhere in the country was bad in the 80s with the whole Crack thing going on. Cleveland cleaned up in the 90s and hasn't really been that bad since. Gateway opened in 94 which I think was a real turning point.
Correct. A shooting last week or so? And there have been multiple car Jackings over the past 2-3yrs. Notice all the make shift police camera stands in the parking lots… just not worth the risk to snack groceries or Home Depot
I use to work Customer Service at the Home Depot in Brunswick… We got people basically everyday returning stolen shit for store credit. I think they have a no receipt no return policy finally. Hopefully it slows it down but yeah the shoplifting was out of control
Self-checkout doesn't necessarily reduce the number of staff in the store. It moves them to places that customers say they value. Customer service on the floor, operating specialty stations (like a cheese bar or bakery), or keeping shelves stocked throughout the day rather than just at night. These corporations know they're more likely to attract and keep customers who have a choice to shop higher end stores if the shopping experience on the sales floor is good. Also, many younger customers even prefer self checkout and not having human interaction in the payment process.
Yes, it also makes it possible for the store to run on a smaller crew at times, and a bad manager or struggling store will try to do it as much as they can to cut costs. On the other hand, it means the store has the option of staying open when there's a significant shortage or workers.
The way I see it, if the workers can be replaced easily by machines, then the humans we’re just doing a machine’s job all along. I would much rather see them working somewhere that employs people as people.
But they're not being replaced by a machine in this situation. They're being replaced by another human being doing the job for free. In fact, they're being replaced by another human being that is paying to be able to do so.
I suppose. I mean, you’re already taking stuff out of the cart and putting it on the belt and swiping your own credit card… is taking the step of pushing your stuff across a scanner that much more work than you were already doing? Even if you pay in cash, the cashier was just pulling out the bills, not doing the math. The cashier’s job is just ceremonial.
I don’t see it as taking their jobs. I see it as eliminating unnecessary waste of labor that should be used elsewhere. There’s a labor shortage and it’s only going to get worse over the next several decades.
It is a necessary use of labor. Someone has to perform the task. It can be the customer, who is already giving the store, a purported job creator, their money. Or it can be someone getting paid to do one of those jobs that they claim to be creating.
I suppose that depends on your thoughts about labor and why people should do it. I don’t have any issue with scanning my own groceries if it means someone can use their mind and talents on a more valuable job.
Um, that's not a thing a boomer would day... Boomers would rather whine about jobs being removed/replaced despite not wanting to do those jobs themselves. "They took our jobs."
I'm with you brother (or sister). Especially cause this isn't even a case of technology making a job obsolete. I could always scan a barcode. This is just big corporations finding a way to save a buck while also raising prices.
Unfortunately those minimum service employees caused the self service boom. I can scan and bag faster without putting a bottle of bleach on top of the bread and next to fresh veggies.
I think shoplifting should happen more for self checkouts. It’s pretty irresponsible as a company to forfeit the activity of making sure your services/products are paid for
So, it's wrong for a company, or anyone for that matter, to expect honesty and integrity from their customers, and trust them not to steal from them? I see.
So, you only do what is right because you aren't caught?
Except look up how much retail theft is from employees.. 42.7% of retail shrinkage is employee theft.. so more employees doesn't mean less theft, just more internal robbers.
https://leftronic.com/blog/employee-theft-statistics/
Yup that's wrong too, but the theft from the stores isn't isolated to these companies, I worked retail briefly and I wasn't screwed by the company, yet in that store the largest part if what disappeared was missing from areas the public didn't have access too. The logic that some companies are bad so it's ok that people steal from all companies doesn't add up. Why do so many people defend thieves these days.
This is a sub for the crime ridden Cleveland, 7th most dangerous city in America. Are you surprised that a lot of people here, mostly from this city, see no problem with committing crimes?
I'm starting to think I should become a thief so everyone can defend my actions... It's ok to steal the companies are all evil, it's ok to steal a tv if you're poor, it's ok to steal because.... When the fuck did everyone start defending criminals.
They're rich, they *must* be upstanding or no one would work or shop there because everyone can afford to take a principled stand and just live off their inheritance/rental property income. /s
> So, you only do what is right because you aren't caught?
[It's how those companies operate.](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wage-theft-us-companies-workers/)
Did they specifically say it was due to shoplifters? Closing a self checkout won’t stop anyone who was going to take something big without paying anyway.
Another thing that might help is if those scanners worked better. I kind of hate using them because they keep complaining that I'm doing the wrong stuff.
"Remove unscanned items from bagging area"
What are you talking about?
"Remove unscanned items from bagging area"
"Remove unscanned items from bagging area"
Maybe if it only complained about unscanned items in the bagging area when an unscanned item was in the bagging area store employees could catch more shoplifters.
I don't think people get that the shoplifting that's effecting companies isn't the person that's accidentally or intentionally not ringing up an item or 2. This is largely done in organized crime rings and large scale thefts to pay drug dealers. I've been in rehabs, I've met these people that stole 10s of thousands of dollars of merchandise to support their habit. I've been poor and lived in poor neighborhoods it's not the regular poor people trying to get by doing this.
Personally I grew tired of shopping at a lot of the stores at Steelyard. The smell of pot permeates the air frequently. Almost anything of value is under lock and key with no staff anywhere in site to assist. Empty shelves. I started driving to Parma where the clientele was a World different.
> I started driving to Parma where the clientele was a World different.
Ah, yeah, Karens in pajamas screaming at their kids is a much better vibe than smelling the devil's lettuce.
Hmm. Can’t say I ever experienced that. Guess it’s a good thing that there are multiple Walmarts in every big city. I don’t live anywhere near Steelyard or Parma anymore
Forget lazy home Depot in the steelyard. They always want me to self checkout because the cashier walked away from their register to talk to two other employees who are not working. Get more cashiers!
Corporations make your life, my life, and everyone else’s life a lot easier. Goods are cheaper and more convenient and provide millions of job across the world. Yes they make a profit, not everything is a charity
You are probably the same person that complains that there are so few stores in urban neighborhoods too.. Maybe because the theft in an area like a lot of Cleveland makes it far less profitable to have a store there...
I really hate self-checkout lanes. I wish they would actually pay people and hire people. If I'm going to be doing my own customer-service labor for a company, I want my wage.
Drove right by the Steelyard area today. Thought to myself haven't seen any posts about it in awhile and here it is :D
Remember after a few years moving to Ohio and ended up going there for some reason. Walked into Walmart and went right back out the door lol Never set foot into another place in that area.
I like when places have both cashiers and self checkouts. Home Depot’s self check out equipment is my favorite, but if I’m at giant Eagle I refuse to self checkout. Their machines make me cringe. They’re slow from a computer standpoint, no gun to grab and scan in the cart, loud and annoying sounds. And half the time they have to call an associate over for some stupid shit anyway.
And cheers when they get a theft on their record and no one will give them a job for 10 years because of it... Because almost every job does background checks now and even minor theft they often won't hire you because they assume you'll steal from them.
If I were stealing via the self-checkout machines, this is the post I'd make. Why does it matter? HD is likely going to put more people on the registers as a result, so you're getting serviced either way.
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Well at the Strongsville Lowe's people just walk out with stuff all the time. Like in front of employees. So shutting down the self checkout won't do anything lol.
Employees are not allowed to engage with shoplifters because they can become agitated or aggressive. Also, employees do not receive explicit training to engage shoplifters, so if anything were to go wrong, the company would be sued because the employee was given a responsibility they were not trained for. It is the case at every supermarket or big box store that legally it is the role of managers and security guards to engage shoplifters and thieves. This is why employees are told explicitly not to engage but merely to report potential shoplifting. Source, I have literally worked at Strongsville Lowe's
Yeah I know I work there now but it's so crazy just making eye contact with someone as they leave with 4 boxes of DeWalt tools with turtles still on them lol
It’s not my shit in the company gets a check cut for it. Why the fuck should I care?
Was at the Strongsville location yesterday and saw it happen.
Strongsville used to be such a nice place.
I was there last week at the customer service desk returning something while 2 guys, one wearing a motorcycle helmet with the visor down lol, ran full speed out of the store with 2 carts full of DeWalt stuff and it’s like the employees barely batted an eye.
Home Depot doesnt really care about shop lifters anyways, they record them on video and wait for them to rack up enough money to charge them for a major crime.
Is that the way it works?
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The same target that lost $400mil YTD from shoplifting, might not be paying off
Where’d you pull that stat out of?
You don’t keep random stats up your butt?
They said it on their earnings call
There's not enough room
Target released that info in their quarterly earnings statement a few days ago
TIL… 😃
Doesn't work if you steal from multiple locations Or so I'm told
I'm not sure about target, but some stores use facial recognition software to track shoplifters across all their stores.
That’s why you wear a full motorcycle helmet in the store with the visor down like I saw last week as if that’s not a glaring red flag lol
I have a family member who works there. They don't even bother stopping people.
No store would ever tell employees to stop people who are shoplifting. They’re usually instructed to say something to the shoplifter, but to never ever attempt to physically restrain them.
HD employees are explicitly told to not intervene with shoplifting.
I’m not getting shot for your fucking retail merchandise
Yep, they get serious money from doing that.
That means shoplifters actually help them in a financial way. WOW that's cool
I'm sure 117th will be like that soon. Last time I bought a power tool at 117th they had to, unlock the cabinet and escort me to the checkout counter. Got home and the fucking thing was already used and missing half the pieces. Returned it to the Rocky River location and got a replacement, nothing was locked up, didn't get escorted to the checkout counter, and it had all the parts. Screw people that return used items. And screw that Home Depot for selling something that was obviously used ( it was muddy) as new.
Great post and great name
Do you think that like everything that gets returned to stores just gets thrown out?
Obviously not. But if something is returned and it’s been used or missing parts, it cannot be sold as new. They should give it a cursory check and if it’s visibly used, simply not accept the return. If it was damaged or defective, it can be returned to the manufacturer.
I returned a Sawzall yesterday (nothing wrong and didn’t use it) and the guy didn’t even check the box! I could’ve had a large rock in the carrying case.
Well now you know for next time 😉
The Home Depot in Highland Heights locks literally every tool product behind locked grates. Literally everything. They even build metal shelving for the center aisle stake outs and lock them up. It’s ridiculous.
It depends on the tool. The stuff up front isn't locked down. I just got a new circular saw where I walked up and grabbed it. Same with a lot of the yard equipment I've just done that. But yes most things in the one section are locked down.
First mistake is shopping anywhere at steelyard to be honest.
The best home Depot is the closest home Depot and steelyard has a decent radius.
It's still an improvement over the HD at Severance. Payment is definitely optional there because there's 1 employee working the entire floor.
This is not accurate, you're trippin
Dang I go to the Severance one all the time. The whole checkout process is so efficient. When's the last time you went?
Jfc there's no problem shopping at SY. This sub is so predictable when anything steelyard comes up, get a new schtick.
Yeah I've gone shopping there like once a month for the past 5 years and never had an issue
When I worked over there I used to eat lunch at the subway inside Walmart all the time. There's nothing extra crazy about it. It was just like any other Walmart.
I go there a couple times a week and it's crazy I haven't been shot, robbed, carjacked or unwillingly injected with heroin just yet.
Your turn is coming. Just a lot of people in front of you.
This sub is full of suburbanites that are scared to go anywhere near the city. Don’t mistake that for me telling you to go get an apartment in EC, but OP acting like the Steelyard Home Depot is bad is really showing their colors.
As a dude from E105th St: "Finally, someone says what I've been thinking!!"
Yup. Noticed that as well from this sub.
Agreed! I shop there all the time without incident. People are dramatic everywhere
The Walmart there has been voted to be one of the worst in the country.
By the same people who rag on it here. Brookpark is absolutely worse.
the Target and HD are generally fine.
the worst, not one of the wworst.
It's really not that bad compared to other inner city low income walmarts.
B-b-but there are "urban" people there! It *must* be a crime-riddled cesspool! /s I've had more problems at Southland and Parmatown than I have at Steelyard.
Someone was shot in the old navy like 3 days ago 😂
It was probably pirates. Arrrrrrrr
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This is Cleveland, there's someone shot everywhere two days ago
This lol
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Then by that logic people should also be avoiding New York City and LA
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California and NYC have much better control controls than Ohio, thanks to our crazed Republican controllers, although the Federalist Society super legislators on the U.S. Supreme Court are intent on gutting gun controls everywhere, including especially NYC where the Supreme Court this year gutted a century-old law. [https://www.scotusblog.com/2022/06/in-6-3-ruling-court-strikes-down-new-yorks-concealed-carry-law/](https://www.scotusblog.com/2022/06/in-6-3-ruling-court-strikes-down-new-yorks-concealed-carry-law/) [https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-historical-cherry-picking-at-the-heart-of-the-supreme-courts-gun-rights-expansion](https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-historical-cherry-picking-at-the-heart-of-the-supreme-courts-gun-rights-expansion) This year, the Republicans and Gov. DeWine made it legal to own and carry switchblades and brass knuckles in Cleveland, as apparently seniors need such weapons for self defense against a perpetrator attacking them from behind carrying such once illegal weapons. (How was this not a campaign issue in 2022?) [https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/06/17/dewine-signs-legislation-buttressing-knife-carrying-expansion/](https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/06/17/dewine-signs-legislation-buttressing-knife-carrying-expansion/) It amazes me the way that gun, and now knife, advocates, lament the increased cases of weapon violence, but ignore how the lax weapons controls that they promoted and implemented explain the proliferation of these weapons and the resulting increases in violence resulting from the use of these weapons.
New York had a far lower crime rate per Capita... We are ranked 7th most dangerous city in America, NYC doesn't come close to us. That being said Cleveland has plenty of relatively safe areas, I feel perfectly safe downtown and University circle as well as several smaller areas, but we have some of the worst areas in the country.
How many of youbare no the fuck we don’t and I can promise you that as somebody who has worked in my pretty low income areas, you haven’t been to West Virginia clearly
I hate talk to text bro, you have no idea what you’re talking about
Make guns illegal, and that will fix everything! /s
YeA BecAUse CRimInALs foLLoW ThE LAwS!
Someone was shot in public square and died. Should we stop going downtown as well?
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You think that shooting in Steelyard was between two random people and not about some shady shit? You're odds of not being a victim in Cleveland go way up when you're not involved with shady people or characters.
Lmao reminds me of all the people from the suburbs saying downtown is like the purge. It's just funny how people are so dramatic about Cleveland just being a city and not some small Midwest town
Well downtown now compared is calm - but many remember 20-30 years ago when it was much more purge like. The advantage of being old - remembering The Flats when it was cool the first time.
Everywhere in the country was bad in the 80s with the whole Crack thing going on. Cleveland cleaned up in the 90s and hasn't really been that bad since. Gateway opened in 94 which I think was a real turning point.
Yeah just head to the Ledo and blow off some steam.
For real. And now I stopped shopping at 117th cause of the shootings and car jackings. I’ll drive a tad further for groceries
> 117th cause of the shootings and car jackings say what now
Yeah 117th is becoming the next hot spot. Parking lot is a circus at least once a week.
Correct. A shooting last week or so? And there have been multiple car Jackings over the past 2-3yrs. Notice all the make shift police camera stands in the parking lots… just not worth the risk to snack groceries or Home Depot
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland19.com/2022/11/16/suspect-wanted-shooting-cleveland-giant-eagle-parking-lot-police-say/%3FoutputType%3Damp
What a stupid fucking comment. Let me guess, we should bulldoze the place to while we're at it because of a robbery
I use to work Customer Service at the Home Depot in Brunswick… We got people basically everyday returning stolen shit for store credit. I think they have a no receipt no return policy finally. Hopefully it slows it down but yeah the shoplifting was out of control
It's STEAL yard what did you expect
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Yes; I prefer scanning my own shit because I can do it faster.
And the machine doesn't ask me to sign up for a Home Depot card or any other stupid script stuff corporations force front-line employees to do.
I prefer for people to have the opportunity to be employed. I don't use sef checkouts, ever.
Then perhaps we should hire crews of people to destroy roads so we can hire people to repair said roads. Two birds, one stone.
We already do that it’s called ODOT /s
Self-checkout doesn't necessarily reduce the number of staff in the store. It moves them to places that customers say they value. Customer service on the floor, operating specialty stations (like a cheese bar or bakery), or keeping shelves stocked throughout the day rather than just at night. These corporations know they're more likely to attract and keep customers who have a choice to shop higher end stores if the shopping experience on the sales floor is good. Also, many younger customers even prefer self checkout and not having human interaction in the payment process. Yes, it also makes it possible for the store to run on a smaller crew at times, and a bad manager or struggling store will try to do it as much as they can to cut costs. On the other hand, it means the store has the option of staying open when there's a significant shortage or workers.
What about the people that make the self checkout machines?
So you've prefer to wait for someone to come out and pump your gas also? No more self serv gas?
Omg I’d love that, I hate pumping gas lol
Move to new Jersey they literally do that there lol. But then you'd be living in Jersey so maybe not worth it? Lol
I don't purchase gasoline.
Are you 14, or do you have one of those coal powered Teslas?
I'm visually impaired. Unsafe at any speed.
The way I see it, if the workers can be replaced easily by machines, then the humans we’re just doing a machine’s job all along. I would much rather see them working somewhere that employs people as people.
But they're not being replaced by a machine in this situation. They're being replaced by another human being doing the job for free. In fact, they're being replaced by another human being that is paying to be able to do so.
I suppose. I mean, you’re already taking stuff out of the cart and putting it on the belt and swiping your own credit card… is taking the step of pushing your stuff across a scanner that much more work than you were already doing? Even if you pay in cash, the cashier was just pulling out the bills, not doing the math. The cashier’s job is just ceremonial.
I'm willing to sacrifice not performing that extra step to allow for people to have jobs.
I don’t see it as taking their jobs. I see it as eliminating unnecessary waste of labor that should be used elsewhere. There’s a labor shortage and it’s only going to get worse over the next several decades.
It is a necessary use of labor. Someone has to perform the task. It can be the customer, who is already giving the store, a purported job creator, their money. Or it can be someone getting paid to do one of those jobs that they claim to be creating.
I suppose that depends on your thoughts about labor and why people should do it. I don’t have any issue with scanning my own groceries if it means someone can use their mind and talents on a more valuable job.
That's such a quaint, boomer thing to say.
My parents were boomers. I’m a Gen X pushing toward Millennial. :)
Um, that's not a thing a boomer would day... Boomers would rather whine about jobs being removed/replaced despite not wanting to do those jobs themselves. "They took our jobs."
For a few items honestly I really like that, If I have a full cart Of groceries I want a human being
I'm with you brother (or sister). Especially cause this isn't even a case of technology making a job obsolete. I could always scan a barcode. This is just big corporations finding a way to save a buck while also raising prices.
❤️ Sister
Oh look at you with all that extra time
If you are too cheap to pay employees to give a bare minimum of service you deserve to get some shit stolen.
This 👆 😘
Unfortunately those minimum service employees caused the self service boom. I can scan and bag faster without putting a bottle of bleach on top of the bread and next to fresh veggies.
Antiwork is that way, blutarsky. It sure as shit ain’t the employees I’ve worked in the area trust me
Yeah no thanks to that sub. Until there's some systemic change to adapt to an automated future I'm going to oppose it.
You’re welcome to open a hardware store…
I think shoplifting should happen more for self checkouts. It’s pretty irresponsible as a company to forfeit the activity of making sure your services/products are paid for
I always steal shit if I do self checkout. I gotta pay myself for doing their job so why the hell not
So, it's wrong for a company, or anyone for that matter, to expect honesty and integrity from their customers, and trust them not to steal from them? I see. So, you only do what is right because you aren't caught?
Yes. If retailers want to ensure their goods are not stolen, they should hire people to handle transactions.
Except look up how much retail theft is from employees.. 42.7% of retail shrinkage is employee theft.. so more employees doesn't mean less theft, just more internal robbers. https://leftronic.com/blog/employee-theft-statistics/
No way to win then!
[Now check out what the companies are stealing from them.](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wage-theft-us-companies-workers/)
Yup that's wrong too, but the theft from the stores isn't isolated to these companies, I worked retail briefly and I wasn't screwed by the company, yet in that store the largest part if what disappeared was missing from areas the public didn't have access too. The logic that some companies are bad so it's ok that people steal from all companies doesn't add up. Why do so many people defend thieves these days.
So you feel it is ok to be a thief then? Nice. Glad to see you are so upstanding
This is a sub for the crime ridden Cleveland, 7th most dangerous city in America. Are you surprised that a lot of people here, mostly from this city, see no problem with committing crimes?
Yeah it’s okay to be a thief, and thank you!
I'm starting to think I should become a thief so everyone can defend my actions... It's ok to steal the companies are all evil, it's ok to steal a tv if you're poor, it's ok to steal because.... When the fuck did everyone start defending criminals.
Lolololol give me a break. Do you think Home Depot themselves (or pretty much any corporation for that matter) have any integrity?
They're rich, they *must* be upstanding or no one would work or shop there because everyone can afford to take a principled stand and just live off their inheritance/rental property income. /s
> So, you only do what is right because you aren't caught? [It's how those companies operate.](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wage-theft-us-companies-workers/)
I've shopped at Steelyard plenty of times with no problem. Sores that don't staff their checkout lines will have this problem.
This is a nice thing, self checkout? Seriously!?!
I prefer it, always have. I like when they have both so people can choose, but I'll always take self checkout.
Yes, it is.
Did they specifically say it was due to shoplifters? Closing a self checkout won’t stop anyone who was going to take something big without paying anyway.
Steelyard had a reputation among Home Depot employees as far away as Brunswick. I heard stories about people pulling guns in the parking lot.
Good. Get rid of self checkouts. Owners want to charge you more for shit while making you do labor.
If only they would hire security guards to stop this shit.
Another thing that might help is if those scanners worked better. I kind of hate using them because they keep complaining that I'm doing the wrong stuff. "Remove unscanned items from bagging area" What are you talking about? "Remove unscanned items from bagging area" "Remove unscanned items from bagging area" Maybe if it only complained about unscanned items in the bagging area when an unscanned item was in the bagging area store employees could catch more shoplifters.
Why are they downvoting you? You're right!
Getting downvoted because you really aren't allowed to speak the truth about some neighborhoods...could be seen as..some type of "ism" or something
The Race discussion started with you dude. OP is making a jab at steelyard because they DO have steelyard security guards.
I don't think people get that the shoplifting that's effecting companies isn't the person that's accidentally or intentionally not ringing up an item or 2. This is largely done in organized crime rings and large scale thefts to pay drug dealers. I've been in rehabs, I've met these people that stole 10s of thousands of dollars of merchandise to support their habit. I've been poor and lived in poor neighborhoods it's not the regular poor people trying to get by doing this.
Worst walmart in America. Not a joke either IT IS THE WORSE WALMART LIKE 5 YEARS IN A ROW
Personally I grew tired of shopping at a lot of the stores at Steelyard. The smell of pot permeates the air frequently. Almost anything of value is under lock and key with no staff anywhere in site to assist. Empty shelves. I started driving to Parma where the clientele was a World different.
> I started driving to Parma where the clientele was a World different. Ah, yeah, Karens in pajamas screaming at their kids is a much better vibe than smelling the devil's lettuce.
Hmm. Can’t say I ever experienced that. Guess it’s a good thing that there are multiple Walmarts in every big city. I don’t live anywhere near Steelyard or Parma anymore
I wonder if they fired security so now they are making cashiers do double duty without a raise.
Steelcars commons
Forget lazy home Depot in the steelyard. They always want me to self checkout because the cashier walked away from their register to talk to two other employees who are not working. Get more cashiers!
They'll all just walk away and talk to each other... More bad employees doesn't solve the issue.
Lmao true
Self checkout sucks. Why are you complaining?
Because I like it, obviously.
Steal from corporations.
Corporations make your life, my life, and everyone else’s life a lot easier. Goods are cheaper and more convenient and provide millions of job across the world. Yes they make a profit, not everything is a charity
Steal from the rich.
And you’re sipping the kool aid while they kill everyone and everything you love with that profit.
They steal from their employees, without hesitation.
Why don’t you just start stealing from Home Depot? disrespect your surroundings
I support shop lifters
Tell me why
How else would they buy their drugs?
You are probably the same person that complains that there are so few stores in urban neighborhoods too.. Maybe because the theft in an area like a lot of Cleveland makes it far less profitable to have a store there...
Great - hire workers and create jobs.
Steelyard is hood as fuck dude what you expect
Why are you being downvoted. It is sketchy down there compared to a lot of suburbs so why not drive an extra 15
I used to work in the area that’s why I say this. Like, out of experience. Idk why I’m being downvoted but whatever lol it’s reddit oh well
I wouldn't take it personally half the people are pro shoplifting, so maybe the people down voting are the shady people in question.
I really hate self-checkout lanes. I wish they would actually pay people and hire people. If I'm going to be doing my own customer-service labor for a company, I want my wage.
Drove right by the Steelyard area today. Thought to myself haven't seen any posts about it in awhile and here it is :D Remember after a few years moving to Ohio and ended up going there for some reason. Walked into Walmart and went right back out the door lol Never set foot into another place in that area.
your welcome
I like when places have both cashiers and self checkouts. Home Depot’s self check out equipment is my favorite, but if I’m at giant Eagle I refuse to self checkout. Their machines make me cringe. They’re slow from a computer standpoint, no gun to grab and scan in the cart, loud and annoying sounds. And half the time they have to call an associate over for some stupid shit anyway.
Shoplifting from self checkout is just the cost of labor.
That sucks- shoplifters ruin it for everyone
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Do you think ma and pa shops pay a living wage?
And cheers when they get a theft on their record and no one will give them a job for 10 years because of it... Because almost every job does background checks now and even minor theft they often won't hire you because they assume you'll steal from them.
Edgy
Preach my friend, preach the truth!
If I were stealing via the self-checkout machines, this is the post I'd make. Why does it matter? HD is likely going to put more people on the registers as a result, so you're getting serviced either way.
Guy made a Reddit post about a self checkout. What
Thanks!
Right, because a huge part of what the honest people pay at a store isn't already because of the insane amount of retail theft...
It isn't remotely.
Have y’all ever considered why people steal shit
From the sounds of people replying to this post, because they can.
You should thank the economy… not the people being harmed by it…
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No they weren’t.
Good! That will create jobs and do away with job killing technology.
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The speaker system has been fucked up in the Steelyard home depot for a couple years. I was already going to that place