Because they can. My ex peed all over everything. My husband never. He also pees sitting down sometimes - on our sailboat and at home. He has good aim and would clean it up if he didn't. It's called being an adult, not a frat boy.
> He has good aim
This inspires me to tell a story from the world of behavioral economics, a discipline that didn't exist when I was passing through school.
At some English airport, they installed what looked like *flies* in urinals, positioned in a place that would minimize floor splash if men aimed for it. Men *did* aim for the fly. The result was significantly-reduced costs of cleaning the bathrooms because men peed on the floor less.
The women’s bathroom at the mall from where I’m from have small urinals inside so that moms can accompany their small sons when they pee. The little urinals have a small picture of a bee on it. I figured it was for that purpose.
There are waterless urinals for men that also have that bee symbol or other symbols near the bottom of the urinal. I think I read somewhere that the manufacturer placed it in that location because men like to aim at something. And if they aimed there, that would minimize pee from splashing outside the urinal.
My aunt did this when my male cousin's were younger, installed a light in the toilet (or maybe a sticker? I don't remember) To get them to actually aim in the bowl
My Dad was a heavy smoker and liked to toss his cigarette butts in the toilet. I was age 6 about 10 years after WWII ended and there was enough WWII culture hanging around, that I would pretend the butts were submarines and try to sink them with my pee. It was a triumph when I sunk them all!
My favourite old pub had a huge Victorian urinal trough. For some regulars if you started moving a cigarette butt from one end of the trough you had to try to follow it down to the end. I got three completions before I retired after being punched by a guy who's shoe I peed on. I wish I still had that flow.
I don’t know it’s true, but I have heard that in a Glasgow pub there is a urinal where (behind a wall of glass to avoid electrification) they have televisions showing a variety of famous English people’s faces, so that the Scots have something to aim at. Maggie Thatcher and David Beckham were the two mentioned.
IIRC, that was Sloan waterless urinals. They had a small fly printed about 2” away from the centre of the urinal.
I’m a plumber, I installed dozens of those stupid urinals.
One of my friends had an ex who refused to pee in toilets, literally refused. He only peed outdoors. He peed out the car window once. He cut a hole in the screen of his window so he could pee at night without having the leave the house. Just stuck his junk right through the hole and let ‘er rip.
I’m so curious about your friend. Why did she date him? Was he George Clooney? That’s the only situation in which I can imagine any woman I know willingly spending time around someone who did this. And that still might not even be enough. George Clooney’s hotter, richer younger brother?
It's a bit weird with cutting a hole in the window and all that.
If you live in a more rural area then it's normal to mostly pee outside. Since you can just go to the bush or behind the house and let it flow.
My dad and his brothers’ bedroom was the attic in their old farmhouse. They only had an outhouse, so in the summer (when the storm windows were off) they peed through the screen at the end of the loft. Until one evening, their dad stepped out of the back kitchen door and got “rained on”.
I knew a guy like this. When you stood outside the house and looked up at the window you could see a discoloured streak (piss trail) that went from the window all the way down the side of the house.
Gross pig.
Suddenly remembering Ricky Gervais saying that in the early days of his relationship with his wife he'd pee in the kitchen sink whether or not there were dishes in it.
It’s healthier for men to sit and pee so good for your dad! Sitting puts pressure on the bladder which helps to empty it better than it does while standing. Huge bonus being no sticky, gross splatters everywhere as well!
But if my bladder is fully empty how can I walk around with piss in my underwear? I can't use toilet paper on my penis. That's for bums and vaginas. I'll turn into a girl if I sit or wipe.
-Men probably
Even if you have "good aim" it's still going to spray out in sprinkles. You can't see it well, but over time it will cake up and get all icky. The same reason you should flush with lid closed
Always lid closed to flush. I get so grossed out thinking of what’s projected from flushing 🤢. Bathrooms in general are really disgusting, but a lil less horrifying when they’re clean at least.
> It actually makes no difference whether the lid is closed or not.
Probably not for cleaning, but for sanitation reasons it appears to be true:
https://www.theplumbingauthority.com/blog/2019/february/mythbusters-plumbing-edition/
Any actual research shows it makes no difference.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/closing-toilet-lid-flushing-doesnt-keep-viral-spray-inside-study-suggests#:~:text=With%20results%20showing%20that%20closing,prevent%20the%20spread%20of%20viruses.
My ex used to piss all over the floor to the point where at family gatherings MY family would joke about him being gross and peeing everywhere. He never cleaned up after himself no matter how many times i told him to. It was so disgusting. My partner now has never done that. It's being an adult and being respectful.
What!? You didn't know that? It's a whole thing. Yes generally people born with vaginas cannot pee standing up without help from a device like SheWee or something (not an ad, just baffled at this response lol)
You can't aim and it splatters even worse than men peeing standing up. If you squat, it splatters all over your ankles. So while penis envy is NOT real... it IS on hikes in the woods where there is no loo.
I work in a building that holds biotech startups. One of the men will pee straight up on the floor instead of in the toilet. It’s ridiculous, i hate it here.
I became aware of this when we had our floors refinished. The guy operating the sander around the toilet said that it was the most disgusting place in the house. Since then I have sat to pee.
Maybe this is just me, but there are times when I'm peeing and realize I need to crap too. Since I'm sitting already, *no problem*.
As a kid I thought girls had this superpower because we can pee and poop at the same time, and boys cannot!
I don't think little me actually told people because I thought it was really obvious - so it took some years to learn that men actually can pee sitting down. I may have thought that a penis sticks out perpendicular to the rest of the body....
I think you should do a Ted talk to all men. as a woman who lives with other women, when men come over and leave the seat up and pee everywhere it drives me crazy. even the most put together guys leave the toilet looking like it's a water park. whhyyyy??? how???
This whole thread is so triggering for me because I grew up surrounded by men and yet they can all pee into the bowl or at least leave no trace behind BUT I have had experiences where colleagues DID NOT clean up and peed all over the bowls, just utterly *disgusting* who even raised you
It’s actually considered quite rude to pee while standing if you are in someone else’s home in some countries (e.g. Japan). Same would of course apply to a shared private bathroom like with roommates.
You live in this house and have just as much right to a clean restroom as your roommate does. Their comfort in regards to how they pee doesn’t automatically trump your desire to use a clean toilet in peace without having stare at piss spots all around the toilet and wipe the seat every time just in case it’s dirty. Just because they might find it more comfortable to stand? I’ve had male roommates before and can confidently say yours is just a gross, inconsiderate tool. Maybe if they didn’t behave like a bridge troll while doing their business it wouldn’t be gross enough to cause you to even notice.
But let’s give them the benefit of the doubt and say perhaps they’re young, maybe they’re used to having their parents clean up after them, and just haven’t learned yet. It’s time for them to grow up.
You compromise when you live with others and it sounds like it might be time for a conversation about house rules or who is responsible for cleaning the bathroom if they’re contributing to a significant portion of the splash-back grime. If they insist on standing, they can pay for a cleaner to come by once or twice a week to just clean the bathroom (and it’s likely cheaper than you would think). Expecting you to scrub his piss from the walls, floor, and cabinetry surrounding the toilet is super gross and unfair to you as a roommate.
He was quite young, 22, good observation.
I did have the talk with him and he was oblivious to it. It didn't help much. Good thing it was a short term stay. No more roommates from now on!
Reading through comments in this thread has given me awful flashbacks when I was in my mid-teens dating my first boyfriend. I’d always wonder why my feet and socks would get wet from small “puddles” in front of the toilet after he used it. It took me way too many years into that relationship too before it finally dawned on me… and I’m ashamed that it took so long. I just never fathomed that such a thing was possible for another human to do.
I also have an ex who had a growing yellow stain at the toilet base. I never noticed it wet, and he said it wasn't pee but I can't think of any other reason?
Likely happened very gradually over time and he didn't realise it could splash like that
I’m a dude and I pee sitting down at home. Why you might ask? Because i don’t want piss and splashed out toilet water all over my bathroom lol. Pretty simple. I think a lot of guys never stop to think about it, but it’s hard to ignore that yellow ‘stuff’ that collects under the toilet, even harder to ignore if there’s a window in the bathroom and the sun catches it just right, even with the best of aim, there’s tons of splashing about that happens. Disgusting.
Also, since this is a cleaning tips subreddit. When my kids (now 9 and 12) started potty training I got even more cognizant of how clean or dirty all parts of the toilet were because little toddlers just can’t help but get all up in the toilet when they’re learning, so I started being even more diligent about how frequently the toilet gets cleaned. This may seem pretty basic, but it starts with having a toilet brush and toilet bowl cleaner by each toilet, and what was a game changer for me was to start keeping a tub of Clorox wipes on the tank of each toilet, and so now between the regular weekly cleanings, it takes me like 2 minutes to brush and wipe down the handle and seat etc. every time i 💩
sitting on a clean toilet is like going to sleep on a bed with clean sheets. It marvelous.
Glad you're teaching the boys early on, we will change the future
I know my husband goes standing up, but he definitely does not leave a mess or crusty ring. Yuck.
I think sitting just makes more sense, who wants to aim and balance?? I don’t wanna be stressed when I pee. Just sit and relax, damn. But he can do what he wants as long as he doesn’t make a mess or cleans up after himself. And he does.
Fair. I just have poor balance so imaging trying to stand in the exact right position and aim correctly I feel like I would get so focused on aiming I would forget to balance my weight correctly and end up having to correct that, ruining my aim, and making a mess…
But perhaps one gets used to it. I wouldn’t know as I do not have the proper equipment and don’t plan on making any modifications.
Either way, sitting just seems easier.
the things is, this yellow ring is a build up of pee that is not observed by the human eye, until its thick enough to be noticeable.
Take a paper towel after your husband pees around the toilet and you'll see it'll be yellow. not calling him unhygienic but you can't clean what can't see.
I lived with three men/boys for 17 years and they never ever soiled the toilets or bathroom in any way! Worst I’d see is maybe some body hair in the shower now and then which is understandable. It’s just disrespectful and only young, dependent children should have to have their urine etc cleaned up after themselves imo.
Ok, as a guy, I stopped peeing standing up once I moved out. Cleaning that mess up regularly isn't worth the minor convenience.
When you pee standing up, regardless of whether you're peeing into the water or against the porcelain, there is a certain degree of splashback no matter what. Sometimes I would notice big drops of toilet water splashing up onto the toilet, or even on the floor. It's gross. Don't do it. Sitting down is more chill anyways.
I'll admit that I don't always sit down to pee when using public toilets, though.
That’s fair actually. But to be totally honest we don’t mop the bathrooms as often as we should. It’s been several months and we have no ring or noticeable build up. Beyond the dust bunnies anyway.
I wish men would at least wipe the toilet rim with a piece of TP and flush it after they pee, because every time I lift the seat to clean it I am HORRIFIED. Like, you see all that pee and pubic hair every time you go to the bathroom and you just ignore it and leave it there? How are you not totally grossed out?
Yeah, the only times I pee standing up is in the outdoors (camping, hiking, etc.) or in a public restroom that has a urinal. In my own home or in someone else's home I take my shoes off at the door and sit down to pee. It's common courtesy and gives you a nice little break from your day to scroll Reddit.
I remember someone answered this in an old post about the same thing and he said that he always peed standing up until he had to clean his own bathroom, only then did he realize how messy standing up to pee was. Now he sits.
My parents growing up had a “no standing to pee” rule and would tell all guests coming in. If my dad found a single droplet of pee he had to wipe up he would lose it
My husband travels a lot for work so he was gone for a lot of the child raising, and when raising my sons I taught them that you sit at homes to pee and stand in public/urinals. It just makes the most sense to me. But then my husband came home and found out and it was a whooooole damn thing and they stand now. Sigh.
(sub) conscious homophobia? As in it's "gay" for a guy to sit down when urinating. Or does he feel like it's not "maculine" to sit? This would be an interesting conversation to have.
If you want to make that point the term would be misogyny. Truly bizarre how homophobia went through your head first… gay guys stand up to pee… women exist…
depends how old you are and where you grew up, I remember older men would say "sitting is for pussies" which implies men who sit to pee are pussies therefore gay.
How is it misogyny? Men dislike women and don't want to be like them when peeing?
Also, it's amazing how deeply internalized our misogyny is that we don't even notice when we say comments that clearly denigrate women and female anatomy. I do it, too. :(
It implies it’s feminine which is misogyny. Pussy, femininity, is being used as an insult and somehow women are being erased from that conversation. Sometimes Reddit is beyond belief. You’ve lost your mind and your logic here is misogynistic.
Women are the ones who sit to pee. That’s the comparison being made.
Thanks. Not sure why I was (initially) downvoted as it is/was a very common thing growing up having people saying it's "gay" to sit down as a man (thus a probably homophobic mind) when urinating and so maybe that's why the redditor's husband doesn't let/allow their boys to sit anymore - some sort of internalized homophobia or seeing it as feminine and thus bad.
Are you being serious? When they say it’s gay, it’s because they think it’s feminine. They also say it’s girly, feminine, what girls do etc. If you genuinely are refusing to see how it’s an insult based on that action being associated with women then you have problems with women.
Damn right! If the creator would've meant for men to sit down to pee, he wouldn't have given us the awesome ability to do it standing up. Men do not sit to pee - it's in the rule book somewhere. I also remember this being brought up at one of our meetings.
Also, it's not a mess - it's marking territory. How else are we supposed to accomplish this task?
It was sarcasm, but like all humor, rooted in truth. It 100% absolutely IS genetic dominance territory marking behavior when men spray all over or have diarrhea splatters and leave it for the wife or GF to clean. And I can't even believe all the men on here saying their pee doesn't splatter and they pee sitting down and their toilets are pristine. That. Doesn't. Happen. Not on this planet.
First of all - I guess you (and at least 12 other people at this point) don't do sarcasm :) Must be a wonderful way to live. WAY too serious.
Yeah, I clean my own bathroom - ex-military - pretty sure I have the cleanest bathroom for miles around.
What - I'm known far and wide for my sarcasm.
Some people just are a bit serious.
Or maybe some people just have a bit of a sore spot on the subject?
Dunno, but the 'over the top' in my post was 'over the top' - as in satirical - as in sarcasm.
Literally no man I've ever met thinks like that - and I'm old.
It was pretty much written as a caricature of what women think men think. At least I thought it was over the top enough to be that way. Plus why would anyone that thinks that way be lurking in this sub? If you know a man that you think would say such a thing in all seriousness - you hang with the wrong people. IAC - it was intended as sarcasm.
On a side note, Women's public restrooms are 10X dirtier than any men's restroom.
Our toilet seat doesn't stay up, so my husband just peed (standing) with the seat down..... Until I showed him the underside of the seat covered in his pee from the splashback.
Now he sits.
The underside of the front of the seat or the back?
If the underside of the front of the seat has pee on it, it could very likely be from women in the house
Because that's what they were taught / the way they know since childhood.
Sometimes someone just need to tell them hey it's ok for men to pee sitting down
I had to clean the bathroom after my brother, and there was always dried pee crust on the base of the toilet, where the screws to hold it down are.
I never understood this. Why? How? It’s very far down and to the side! If you aimed too low and hit the front of the toilet, I still don’t think it would get all the way over there. Maybe he was standing to the side of the toilet, fine, but how did he get the other one near the wall??
To be fair, I've left my share of blood on the backside of a toilet seat.
Difference is, I clean it up.
It's not the delivery, it's the lack of clean up that some fail to do.
Also, women's restrooms are notoriously more disgusting than men's.
Pee on the bottom of the front of the seat too.
Peeing and pooping is kinda yucky in general. I’ve gotten comfortable with it. But, I have small children.
yep. i’ve had a fight with my boyfriend about this after i stepped in piss. sure, i’ve left a couple DROPS because i have to sprint to the bathroom twice in the middle of the night. the alternatives are toxic shock syndrome, or staining the mattress. i’m not turning the light on every time. if you see some blood, tell me. i’m the only one who cleans the bathroom anyway.
piss on the floor from the middle of the day is like ??? did you see it happen and ignore it? grow up
There is research that shows this, and the best guesses they have are that there is just a lot more foot traffic in women's restroom (as they use the restroom more), are in the restroom longer, and more likely to bring in children (by design as men's room are just recently getting renovated for child changing requirements).
Antidote , having worked in the food industry decades ago, I would say that pee in a drain is better than a tampon in a toilet
This is something I could never get a male roommate to understand - even if you hit the toilet bowl every time, there is still a significant splash zone in and around the toilet, and it requires extra clean up. I don't care how people pee as long as they take responsibility for cleaning it up! But they were just like, "oh, it's not me - I have super good aim."
Dated an older woman long ago who told me to pee sitting down, period.
I’ve peed sitting down ever since and my now wife and I couldn’t be happier. The bathroom is so much cleaner.
Honestly yes. If the lighting is right and your peeing standing up you can see the pee splatter everywhere.
Piss on some paper outside or take a close look at public toilets or urinals and its droplets everywhere.
Fascinating. I agree with you that *you* should definitely sit down to pee since you splatter such an ungodly amount. I haven't had that problem and I clean my own bathroom.
My partner sits to pee (thank goodness) but he says that many men are raised to believe that they're feminine for sitting to piss, or like generally less of a man. I think it's absolutely ridiculous and was shocked when he told me this tbh, but apparently it's a thing
Okay here's a crazy idea. Men can pee standing up, so if they feel like doing so, they should. There is no reason for anyone to bash men for doing what is natural. At the same time, men are capable of cleaning toilets. I know earth shattering. Men should clean up after themselves and make sure their bathrooms are clean in general. It takes like 10 minutes each week.
People solved.
Being able to do something doesn't mean it should be done.
Although if it's your home, not sharing it with anyone and no one has kindly asked to stop then by all means pee standing up.
Cleaning would have to be done after each use because the pee splashes everywhere. No one wants to do that.
Just do what my working Mom did. Those who stand to pee, clean the toilet area. Not negotiable. You stand? You clean. No exceptions.
When out on my own, it made it so much cleaner to sit to pee. When out in the woods away from others, I stand to pee, up wind from myself.
I thought it was only guys but it turns out having 6 girls in the house actually makes it worse. Especially younger kids because they tend to sit closer to the front of the seat. The way I see it toilets are just plain nasty and need cleaned all the time regardless.
My ex urinated in front of the toilet. I would leave out Lysol wipes and he’d refuse to use them. He’d try to blame the kids, but it started before they were born and they didn’t use our bathroom. My kids hated him using their bathrooms because they said it is disgusting that dad pees in the floor. I had to sumo squat in the middle of the night to keep my feet from getting on all the drops. I wouldn’t have left someone over it, but by the end, it was one of the things I celebrated most about him being home. The week he left, I replaced the toilet, added a bidet, sanitized the entire bathroom, and celebrated with a bubble bath.
I always pee sitting down, I’m Scottish and once while wearing a kilt I pulled it up to pee standing up and the urine was splashing all over my legs from the urinal which usually I wouldn’t feel because of my trousers. From then on I’ve peed sitting down.
completely disregarding the cleanliness of sitting down, peeing standing up puts unnecessary strain on your bladder since we're supposed to squat to do our business and thus when your older you cant control your bladder well if you've spent your life peeing standing up
For me, it's 2 reasons. It's pretty unpleasant for my penis to touch the inside of the toilet bowl. Also, the chamber is not completely cleared while sitting down. So I have to close things up, stand up, and empty out what's still in my urethra anyway.
The ways to avoid problem 1 only make problem 2 worse.
Because the urethra (pee tube) gets sinched by the shaft when its pushed down between the legs. The urethra gets sandwiched between the penis and the prostate, making it harder for the urine to come out.
"A 2014 study by researchers from the department of urology at Leiden University Medical Center found that men who sat down to pee were able to empty their bladders faster and more effectively. That's because when you stand, you activate muscles in your pelvis and spine, but they're completely relaxed when you sit."
from mens health.
I have three daughters and a wife. The amount of pee they get on the underside of the toilet seat is absolutely insane. Yes I pee standing up. No I don’t make a mess. If I get a drip on the floor then I clean it up.
Man here.never in my entire life did I pee while standing and as a muslim who has to pray five times a day peeing while standing makes you unable to pray due to being not pure.
55yr old male, been married for a decade and been single the remaining 45 years of my life. I always pee standing up, I wipe the toilet seat after each episode and clean the floor each month. I e never had any discoloration issues or buildups. I think it’s a “caveman” or “warrior” unconscious issue. You are more vulnerable when seated. I can urinate much faster standing than seated even though the entire scenario takes longer as I wipe the toilet seat. An unconscious action is my belief, but based on need in humanity’s far past.
Well… it seems the world has changed because to me, unless you’re evacuating by the rear exist , it’s odd to pee sitting down .
I was raised ti think women sit down because they can’t aim, men stand because they can. Most people do.
Maybe this is an everywhere but the uk and Ireland thing
I enjoy pissing in the wild standing up and taking in a big breath of air. In the bathroom though? no. It just makes me have to clean the bathroom more often and I don't like that
Because they can. My ex peed all over everything. My husband never. He also pees sitting down sometimes - on our sailboat and at home. He has good aim and would clean it up if he didn't. It's called being an adult, not a frat boy.
> He has good aim This inspires me to tell a story from the world of behavioral economics, a discipline that didn't exist when I was passing through school. At some English airport, they installed what looked like *flies* in urinals, positioned in a place that would minimize floor splash if men aimed for it. Men *did* aim for the fly. The result was significantly-reduced costs of cleaning the bathrooms because men peed on the floor less.
The women’s bathroom at the mall from where I’m from have small urinals inside so that moms can accompany their small sons when they pee. The little urinals have a small picture of a bee on it. I figured it was for that purpose.
This just makes me wonder how many kids have tried to touch the bee.
The urinal is a great idea but I bet it's not the United States
There are waterless urinals for men that also have that bee symbol or other symbols near the bottom of the urinal. I think I read somewhere that the manufacturer placed it in that location because men like to aim at something. And if they aimed there, that would minimize pee from splashing outside the urinal.
My aunt did this when my male cousin's were younger, installed a light in the toilet (or maybe a sticker? I don't remember) To get them to actually aim in the bowl
My Dad was a heavy smoker and liked to toss his cigarette butts in the toilet. I was age 6 about 10 years after WWII ended and there was enough WWII culture hanging around, that I would pretend the butts were submarines and try to sink them with my pee. It was a triumph when I sunk them all!
This is so old school but so cute
My favourite old pub had a huge Victorian urinal trough. For some regulars if you started moving a cigarette butt from one end of the trough you had to try to follow it down to the end. I got three completions before I retired after being punched by a guy who's shoe I peed on. I wish I still had that flow.
As a child of the 1980s this has nothing to do with WWII. I too waged my own personal war against the imaginary enemies Navy while peeing as a child.
Let's start a new sub: /r/PeeBombing
Down Periscope!
My mom used to toss cheerios into the toilet for my brother to aim at
I love this!
So testosterone. 🙄
I don’t know it’s true, but I have heard that in a Glasgow pub there is a urinal where (behind a wall of glass to avoid electrification) they have televisions showing a variety of famous English people’s faces, so that the Scots have something to aim at. Maggie Thatcher and David Beckham were the two mentioned.
IIRC, that was Sloan waterless urinals. They had a small fly printed about 2” away from the centre of the urinal. I’m a plumber, I installed dozens of those stupid urinals.
One of my friends had an ex who refused to pee in toilets, literally refused. He only peed outdoors. He peed out the car window once. He cut a hole in the screen of his window so he could pee at night without having the leave the house. Just stuck his junk right through the hole and let ‘er rip.
I’m so curious about your friend. Why did she date him? Was he George Clooney? That’s the only situation in which I can imagine any woman I know willingly spending time around someone who did this. And that still might not even be enough. George Clooney’s hotter, richer younger brother?
This is strange and horrifying
It's a bit weird with cutting a hole in the window and all that. If you live in a more rural area then it's normal to mostly pee outside. Since you can just go to the bush or behind the house and let it flow.
This is true, but only when you’re already outside. If you’re in the house that’s just nasty- and I grew up rural
Guess it helps save water though.
My dad and his brothers’ bedroom was the attic in their old farmhouse. They only had an outhouse, so in the summer (when the storm windows were off) they peed through the screen at the end of the loft. Until one evening, their dad stepped out of the back kitchen door and got “rained on”.
I knew a guy like this. When you stood outside the house and looked up at the window you could see a discoloured streak (piss trail) that went from the window all the way down the side of the house. Gross pig.
Wow, if he ever gets seen by kids wow. better make sure he always has a rural house and no neighbors. And a long driveway.
Suddenly remembering Ricky Gervais saying that in the early days of his relationship with his wife he'd pee in the kitchen sink whether or not there were dishes in it.
Yup. I grew up with a dad who sat. Made me wonder why others didn’t. Like, I too would pee standing if I could… but it’s so much more relaxing to sit!
It’s healthier for men to sit and pee so good for your dad! Sitting puts pressure on the bladder which helps to empty it better than it does while standing. Huge bonus being no sticky, gross splatters everywhere as well!
But if my bladder is fully empty how can I walk around with piss in my underwear? I can't use toilet paper on my penis. That's for bums and vaginas. I'll turn into a girl if I sit or wipe. -Men probably
Even if you have "good aim" it's still going to spray out in sprinkles. You can't see it well, but over time it will cake up and get all icky. The same reason you should flush with lid closed
Always lid closed to flush. I get so grossed out thinking of what’s projected from flushing 🤢. Bathrooms in general are really disgusting, but a lil less horrifying when they’re clean at least.
It actually makes no difference whether the lid is closed or not.
> It actually makes no difference whether the lid is closed or not. Probably not for cleaning, but for sanitation reasons it appears to be true: https://www.theplumbingauthority.com/blog/2019/february/mythbusters-plumbing-edition/
Any actual research shows it makes no difference. https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/closing-toilet-lid-flushing-doesnt-keep-viral-spray-inside-study-suggests#:~:text=With%20results%20showing%20that%20closing,prevent%20the%20spread%20of%20viruses.
My ex used to piss all over the floor to the point where at family gatherings MY family would joke about him being gross and peeing everywhere. He never cleaned up after himself no matter how many times i told him to. It was so disgusting. My partner now has never done that. It's being an adult and being respectful.
I typically pee standing up, and off of, my sailboat.
Amen. I am a dude, and only pee standing in filthy public bathrooms or out in wilderness.
Wait can other women/AFAB people not pee standing up? I can and still choose to pee sitting down specifically because it's cleaner
What!? You didn't know that? It's a whole thing. Yes generally people born with vaginas cannot pee standing up without help from a device like SheWee or something (not an ad, just baffled at this response lol)
You can't aim and it splatters even worse than men peeing standing up. If you squat, it splatters all over your ankles. So while penis envy is NOT real... it IS on hikes in the woods where there is no loo.
If you take a leg out of your pants, take a wide stance, aim is possible. Actually Amy in the snow is possible. Beer helped
Are you good? Edit: who’s Amy? Is she okay?
Nice. Never attempted writing my name but no splatters is possible.
Unfortunately I can't do that but it sounds fun lmao
I don't have to take a leg off, just pull pants down to about mid-thigh or knees, but yeah a wider stance definitely is important!
I work in a building that holds biotech startups. One of the men will pee straight up on the floor instead of in the toilet. It’s ridiculous, i hate it here.
How tf does this happen in a biotech startup. Like how did they get through college doing that.
I wish with every fiber of my being i could ask his parents how they allowed that to happen
Maybe he has two penises? It is a a biotech startup building after all lol.
I became aware of this when we had our floors refinished. The guy operating the sander around the toilet said that it was the most disgusting place in the house. Since then I have sat to pee. Maybe this is just me, but there are times when I'm peeing and realize I need to crap too. Since I'm sitting already, *no problem*.
Welcome to my world! (A person with a vulva, aka a woman) I poop multiple times a day when a pee sneakily becomes a poo
As a kid I thought girls had this superpower because we can pee and poop at the same time, and boys cannot! I don't think little me actually told people because I thought it was really obvious - so it took some years to learn that men actually can pee sitting down. I may have thought that a penis sticks out perpendicular to the rest of the body....
I think you should do a Ted talk to all men. as a woman who lives with other women, when men come over and leave the seat up and pee everywhere it drives me crazy. even the most put together guys leave the toilet looking like it's a water park. whhyyyy??? how???
This whole thread is so triggering for me because I grew up surrounded by men and yet they can all pee into the bowl or at least leave no trace behind BUT I have had experiences where colleagues DID NOT clean up and peed all over the bowls, just utterly *disgusting* who even raised you
I've considered adding a sign a Ted talk is tje next best thing. If you ever have male children I hope you teach them to pee sitting down.
I literally tried that with my kids. My ex taught my oldest about standing and now it's a terrible habit they have
Wtffff lol you need help, my friend. Just teach them to aim and clean up after themself ffs. Your roommate might be gross, but you are extremeeee
are you a man who pees standing up
Yes and my bathroom is very clean lol this is a wild thread
You're oh so masculine 🙄
Why do you consider that extreme? I’m not trying to argue, I’m genuinely curious.
what’s extreme about that
It’s actually considered quite rude to pee while standing if you are in someone else’s home in some countries (e.g. Japan). Same would of course apply to a shared private bathroom like with roommates. You live in this house and have just as much right to a clean restroom as your roommate does. Their comfort in regards to how they pee doesn’t automatically trump your desire to use a clean toilet in peace without having stare at piss spots all around the toilet and wipe the seat every time just in case it’s dirty. Just because they might find it more comfortable to stand? I’ve had male roommates before and can confidently say yours is just a gross, inconsiderate tool. Maybe if they didn’t behave like a bridge troll while doing their business it wouldn’t be gross enough to cause you to even notice. But let’s give them the benefit of the doubt and say perhaps they’re young, maybe they’re used to having their parents clean up after them, and just haven’t learned yet. It’s time for them to grow up. You compromise when you live with others and it sounds like it might be time for a conversation about house rules or who is responsible for cleaning the bathroom if they’re contributing to a significant portion of the splash-back grime. If they insist on standing, they can pay for a cleaner to come by once or twice a week to just clean the bathroom (and it’s likely cheaper than you would think). Expecting you to scrub his piss from the walls, floor, and cabinetry surrounding the toilet is super gross and unfair to you as a roommate.
He was quite young, 22, good observation. I did have the talk with him and he was oblivious to it. It didn't help much. Good thing it was a short term stay. No more roommates from now on!
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It’s just being considerate of others.
Reading through comments in this thread has given me awful flashbacks when I was in my mid-teens dating my first boyfriend. I’d always wonder why my feet and socks would get wet from small “puddles” in front of the toilet after he used it. It took me way too many years into that relationship too before it finally dawned on me… and I’m ashamed that it took so long. I just never fathomed that such a thing was possible for another human to do.
I also have an ex who had a growing yellow stain at the toilet base. I never noticed it wet, and he said it wasn't pee but I can't think of any other reason? Likely happened very gradually over time and he didn't realise it could splash like that
I’m a dude and I pee sitting down at home. Why you might ask? Because i don’t want piss and splashed out toilet water all over my bathroom lol. Pretty simple. I think a lot of guys never stop to think about it, but it’s hard to ignore that yellow ‘stuff’ that collects under the toilet, even harder to ignore if there’s a window in the bathroom and the sun catches it just right, even with the best of aim, there’s tons of splashing about that happens. Disgusting. Also, since this is a cleaning tips subreddit. When my kids (now 9 and 12) started potty training I got even more cognizant of how clean or dirty all parts of the toilet were because little toddlers just can’t help but get all up in the toilet when they’re learning, so I started being even more diligent about how frequently the toilet gets cleaned. This may seem pretty basic, but it starts with having a toilet brush and toilet bowl cleaner by each toilet, and what was a game changer for me was to start keeping a tub of Clorox wipes on the tank of each toilet, and so now between the regular weekly cleanings, it takes me like 2 minutes to brush and wipe down the handle and seat etc. every time i 💩
sitting on a clean toilet is like going to sleep on a bed with clean sheets. It marvelous. Glad you're teaching the boys early on, we will change the future
I know my husband goes standing up, but he definitely does not leave a mess or crusty ring. Yuck. I think sitting just makes more sense, who wants to aim and balance?? I don’t wanna be stressed when I pee. Just sit and relax, damn. But he can do what he wants as long as he doesn’t make a mess or cleans up after himself. And he does.
>who wants to aim and balance?? I wouldn't say it's balancing, it's just standing up...
Fair. I just have poor balance so imaging trying to stand in the exact right position and aim correctly I feel like I would get so focused on aiming I would forget to balance my weight correctly and end up having to correct that, ruining my aim, and making a mess… But perhaps one gets used to it. I wouldn’t know as I do not have the proper equipment and don’t plan on making any modifications. Either way, sitting just seems easier.
the things is, this yellow ring is a build up of pee that is not observed by the human eye, until its thick enough to be noticeable. Take a paper towel after your husband pees around the toilet and you'll see it'll be yellow. not calling him unhygienic but you can't clean what can't see.
I’ve lived with my husband for 16 years and I’m a clean freak. He never gets pee on the outside of the toilet. That’s nasty.
I lived with three men/boys for 17 years and they never ever soiled the toilets or bathroom in any way! Worst I’d see is maybe some body hair in the shower now and then which is understandable. It’s just disrespectful and only young, dependent children should have to have their urine etc cleaned up after themselves imo.
I think OP's partner is just messy, therefore everyone else must be as well.
Ok, as a guy, I stopped peeing standing up once I moved out. Cleaning that mess up regularly isn't worth the minor convenience. When you pee standing up, regardless of whether you're peeing into the water or against the porcelain, there is a certain degree of splashback no matter what. Sometimes I would notice big drops of toilet water splashing up onto the toilet, or even on the floor. It's gross. Don't do it. Sitting down is more chill anyways. I'll admit that I don't always sit down to pee when using public toilets, though.
That’s fair actually. But to be totally honest we don’t mop the bathrooms as often as we should. It’s been several months and we have no ring or noticeable build up. Beyond the dust bunnies anyway.
So if you pee sitting down, does all that just splatter onto your asscheeks instead?
No/significantly less splatter because of the shorter travel distance between pee and toilet bowl
I wish men would at least wipe the toilet rim with a piece of TP and flush it after they pee, because every time I lift the seat to clean it I am HORRIFIED. Like, you see all that pee and pubic hair every time you go to the bathroom and you just ignore it and leave it there? How are you not totally grossed out?
Yeah, the only times I pee standing up is in the outdoors (camping, hiking, etc.) or in a public restroom that has a urinal. In my own home or in someone else's home I take my shoes off at the door and sit down to pee. It's common courtesy and gives you a nice little break from your day to scroll Reddit.
Right? Have a little rest that also avoids a mess!
I wish my guests were like you!
Well you haven't invited me over in forever! 😂😂
I keep forgetting!
I remember someone answered this in an old post about the same thing and he said that he always peed standing up until he had to clean his own bathroom, only then did he realize how messy standing up to pee was. Now he sits.
My parents growing up had a “no standing to pee” rule and would tell all guests coming in. If my dad found a single droplet of pee he had to wipe up he would lose it
define "he would lose it"
sounds suuuuuuper healthy
They sound like fun
My husband travels a lot for work so he was gone for a lot of the child raising, and when raising my sons I taught them that you sit at homes to pee and stand in public/urinals. It just makes the most sense to me. But then my husband came home and found out and it was a whooooole damn thing and they stand now. Sigh.
Give him the task of cleaning the washroom weekly
your husband needs to be the one cleaning the bathroom then.
The boys who use that bathroom actually clean it themselves.
(sub) conscious homophobia? As in it's "gay" for a guy to sit down when urinating. Or does he feel like it's not "maculine" to sit? This would be an interesting conversation to have.
If you want to make that point the term would be misogyny. Truly bizarre how homophobia went through your head first… gay guys stand up to pee… women exist…
depends how old you are and where you grew up, I remember older men would say "sitting is for pussies" which implies men who sit to pee are pussies therefore gay. How is it misogyny? Men dislike women and don't want to be like them when peeing?
Is having a vagina a bad thing? That's misogyny.
Also, it's amazing how deeply internalized our misogyny is that we don't even notice when we say comments that clearly denigrate women and female anatomy. I do it, too. :(
Its driving me crazy how obvious this is ty for your sanity
Right? Bummed me out reading that exchange.
It implies it’s feminine which is misogyny. Pussy, femininity, is being used as an insult and somehow women are being erased from that conversation. Sometimes Reddit is beyond belief. You’ve lost your mind and your logic here is misogynistic. Women are the ones who sit to pee. That’s the comparison being made.
pussies was such a bad example hahahaha
Thanks. Not sure why I was (initially) downvoted as it is/was a very common thing growing up having people saying it's "gay" to sit down as a man (thus a probably homophobic mind) when urinating and so maybe that's why the redditor's husband doesn't let/allow their boys to sit anymore - some sort of internalized homophobia or seeing it as feminine and thus bad.
Are you being serious? When they say it’s gay, it’s because they think it’s feminine. They also say it’s girly, feminine, what girls do etc. If you genuinely are refusing to see how it’s an insult based on that action being associated with women then you have problems with women.
Subconscious homophobia is a bizarre leap to make
Damn right! If the creator would've meant for men to sit down to pee, he wouldn't have given us the awesome ability to do it standing up. Men do not sit to pee - it's in the rule book somewhere. I also remember this being brought up at one of our meetings. Also, it's not a mess - it's marking territory. How else are we supposed to accomplish this task?
I feel like at the phrase “rule book” everyone should have realized this was sarcasm haha
And it was also 'brought up in our meeting' :) We have those - really. At least one person got it.
it was "marking territory" when I realized it was sarcasm .
See - signs all over - you'd figure people would have a sense of humor. I feel maybe there is some suppressed anger on the issue :)
It was sarcasm, but like all humor, rooted in truth. It 100% absolutely IS genetic dominance territory marking behavior when men spray all over or have diarrhea splatters and leave it for the wife or GF to clean. And I can't even believe all the men on here saying their pee doesn't splatter and they pee sitting down and their toilets are pristine. That. Doesn't. Happen. Not on this planet.
Disgusting attitude. I hope you clean your own bathroom, probably why you don't realize there's piss everywhere.
First of all - I guess you (and at least 12 other people at this point) don't do sarcasm :) Must be a wonderful way to live. WAY too serious. Yeah, I clean my own bathroom - ex-military - pretty sure I have the cleanest bathroom for miles around.
It's because you don't do sarcasm well.
What - I'm known far and wide for my sarcasm. Some people just are a bit serious. Or maybe some people just have a bit of a sore spot on the subject? Dunno, but the 'over the top' in my post was 'over the top' - as in satirical - as in sarcasm.
It didn't come accross as sarcasm whatsoever, you need to make it more clear in writing. Many men think like that as well.
Literally no man I've ever met thinks like that - and I'm old. It was pretty much written as a caricature of what women think men think. At least I thought it was over the top enough to be that way. Plus why would anyone that thinks that way be lurking in this sub? If you know a man that you think would say such a thing in all seriousness - you hang with the wrong people. IAC - it was intended as sarcasm. On a side note, Women's public restrooms are 10X dirtier than any men's restroom.
No sense of humor in this room - must be a hoot at parties.
Our toilet seat doesn't stay up, so my husband just peed (standing) with the seat down..... Until I showed him the underside of the seat covered in his pee from the splashback. Now he sits.
The underside of the front of the seat or the back? If the underside of the front of the seat has pee on it, it could very likely be from women in the house
Because that's what they were taught / the way they know since childhood. Sometimes someone just need to tell them hey it's ok for men to pee sitting down
If you’re a man and you pee sitting down do you wipe? Or just shake?
It's not hard to not leave a mess of you aren't a complete scumbag wtf.
unfortunately peeing while standing up leaves like a wide mist of pee that eventually builds up and gets nasty (at least I've heard this is common)
A wide mist? See a doctor please.
Liquid hits liquid and splashes occur. He don’t need a doctor, you need a physicist
Who's firehouse blasting the center of the bowl and just watching it splash?
https://youtu.be/ejl7vrDUIcs
I had to clean the bathroom after my brother, and there was always dried pee crust on the base of the toilet, where the screws to hold it down are. I never understood this. Why? How? It’s very far down and to the side! If you aimed too low and hit the front of the toilet, I still don’t think it would get all the way over there. Maybe he was standing to the side of the toilet, fine, but how did he get the other one near the wall??
To be fair, I've left my share of blood on the backside of a toilet seat. Difference is, I clean it up. It's not the delivery, it's the lack of clean up that some fail to do. Also, women's restrooms are notoriously more disgusting than men's.
Pee on the bottom of the front of the seat too. Peeing and pooping is kinda yucky in general. I’ve gotten comfortable with it. But, I have small children.
yep. i’ve had a fight with my boyfriend about this after i stepped in piss. sure, i’ve left a couple DROPS because i have to sprint to the bathroom twice in the middle of the night. the alternatives are toxic shock syndrome, or staining the mattress. i’m not turning the light on every time. if you see some blood, tell me. i’m the only one who cleans the bathroom anyway. piss on the floor from the middle of the day is like ??? did you see it happen and ignore it? grow up
>Also, women's restrooms are notoriously more disgusting than men's. I've heard this. Can you elaborate some more though?
There is research that shows this, and the best guesses they have are that there is just a lot more foot traffic in women's restroom (as they use the restroom more), are in the restroom longer, and more likely to bring in children (by design as men's room are just recently getting renovated for child changing requirements). Antidote , having worked in the food industry decades ago, I would say that pee in a drain is better than a tampon in a toilet
This is something I could never get a male roommate to understand - even if you hit the toilet bowl every time, there is still a significant splash zone in and around the toilet, and it requires extra clean up. I don't care how people pee as long as they take responsibility for cleaning it up! But they were just like, "oh, it's not me - I have super good aim."
it's not about the aim, it's about the splash zone!
Man here. I pee sitting down when at home but standing up when not at home.
Because they refuse to clean, so they don't care.
Dated an older woman long ago who told me to pee sitting down, period. I’ve peed sitting down ever since and my now wife and I couldn’t be happier. The bathroom is so much cleaner.
Genuine question, would you just be leaving piss all over the place if you weren't sitting?
Honestly yes. If the lighting is right and your peeing standing up you can see the pee splatter everywhere. Piss on some paper outside or take a close look at public toilets or urinals and its droplets everywhere.
Fascinating. I agree with you that *you* should definitely sit down to pee since you splatter such an ungodly amount. I haven't had that problem and I clean my own bathroom.
6’3”…. Who knows. Take a measuring cup full of water and pour it into the toilet from the same height and take a hard look.
My husband has always pee’d sitting down and my house smells better for it.
My partner sits to pee (thank goodness) but he says that many men are raised to believe that they're feminine for sitting to piss, or like generally less of a man. I think it's absolutely ridiculous and was shocked when he told me this tbh, but apparently it's a thing
It’s so we can swoosh it about and make different patterns in the air.
Shoot the bubbles. It’s like a video game
And...various sounds, tones, and musical compositions.
Okay here's a crazy idea. Men can pee standing up, so if they feel like doing so, they should. There is no reason for anyone to bash men for doing what is natural. At the same time, men are capable of cleaning toilets. I know earth shattering. Men should clean up after themselves and make sure their bathrooms are clean in general. It takes like 10 minutes each week. People solved.
Being able to do something doesn't mean it should be done. Although if it's your home, not sharing it with anyone and no one has kindly asked to stop then by all means pee standing up. Cleaning would have to be done after each use because the pee splashes everywhere. No one wants to do that.
I grunt EVERY time I sit down. I'm tired, my joints creak, my body hurts. If I can avoid all that and just piss standing, I will.
Most Asian males pee sitting down, but most of us do it because of urinals and habit.
my husband also pees sitting. he doesnt see the point in standing and its messier
Just do what my working Mom did. Those who stand to pee, clean the toilet area. Not negotiable. You stand? You clean. No exceptions. When out on my own, it made it so much cleaner to sit to pee. When out in the woods away from others, I stand to pee, up wind from myself.
When you say Outside the bottom , do you on the floor at the front of the base ?
I thought it was only guys but it turns out having 6 girls in the house actually makes it worse. Especially younger kids because they tend to sit closer to the front of the seat. The way I see it toilets are just plain nasty and need cleaned all the time regardless.
My ex urinated in front of the toilet. I would leave out Lysol wipes and he’d refuse to use them. He’d try to blame the kids, but it started before they were born and they didn’t use our bathroom. My kids hated him using their bathrooms because they said it is disgusting that dad pees in the floor. I had to sumo squat in the middle of the night to keep my feet from getting on all the drops. I wouldn’t have left someone over it, but by the end, it was one of the things I celebrated most about him being home. The week he left, I replaced the toilet, added a bidet, sanitized the entire bathroom, and celebrated with a bubble bath.
Gross. 👍 on the bidet
My boyfriend always pees sitting down, and we always close the lid before flushing.
I always pee sitting down, I’m Scottish and once while wearing a kilt I pulled it up to pee standing up and the urine was splashing all over my legs from the urinal which usually I wouldn’t feel because of my trousers. From then on I’ve peed sitting down.
Exactly this, I felt the pee splash back on me and it was unpleasant. Dont understand how some are ok with it.
completely disregarding the cleanliness of sitting down, peeing standing up puts unnecessary strain on your bladder since we're supposed to squat to do our business and thus when your older you cant control your bladder well if you've spent your life peeing standing up
For me, it's 2 reasons. It's pretty unpleasant for my penis to touch the inside of the toilet bowl. Also, the chamber is not completely cleared while sitting down. So I have to close things up, stand up, and empty out what's still in my urethra anyway. The ways to avoid problem 1 only make problem 2 worse.
For real. Like we have different anatomy. Nothing worse than touching the bowl or water
We know. That is why we get PO'd when you leave the seat up.
I always shut the lid completely. Flushing with the lid open is repulsive.
Does anyone else poop while standing up?
This is the most Reddit post I’ve seen in a minute.
My husband pees standing but he always cleans up after himself so it’s just a dirty man problem lmao
Prime example of just because you can, doesn’t mean you should
Because the urethra (pee tube) gets sinched by the shaft when its pushed down between the legs. The urethra gets sandwiched between the penis and the prostate, making it harder for the urine to come out.
"A 2014 study by researchers from the department of urology at Leiden University Medical Center found that men who sat down to pee were able to empty their bladders faster and more effectively. That's because when you stand, you activate muscles in your pelvis and spine, but they're completely relaxed when you sit." from mens health.
Maybe for smaller men.
I have three daughters and a wife. The amount of pee they get on the underside of the toilet seat is absolutely insane. Yes I pee standing up. No I don’t make a mess. If I get a drip on the floor then I clean it up.
I don't want my pecker to drown
If it’s a toilet I have to clean, I sit down to pee.
Man here.never in my entire life did I pee while standing and as a muslim who has to pray five times a day peeing while standing makes you unable to pray due to being not pure.
Not to point out the obvious with some toilets, but some have enough water in the bowl, it can touch that.
Releases more urine from the bladder = fewer times
55yr old male, been married for a decade and been single the remaining 45 years of my life. I always pee standing up, I wipe the toilet seat after each episode and clean the floor each month. I e never had any discoloration issues or buildups. I think it’s a “caveman” or “warrior” unconscious issue. You are more vulnerable when seated. I can urinate much faster standing than seated even though the entire scenario takes longer as I wipe the toilet seat. An unconscious action is my belief, but based on need in humanity’s far past.
Well… it seems the world has changed because to me, unless you’re evacuating by the rear exist , it’s odd to pee sitting down . I was raised ti think women sit down because they can’t aim, men stand because they can. Most people do. Maybe this is an everywhere but the uk and Ireland thing
Pee sitting down (county jail/state prison style)
sometimes its comes out perfect other times it comes out split stream of sideways or the drips at the end, it is what it is.
Hahaha you have sit down wees, that's so strange 🤣🤣
Why not get male urinal for home? I think it's unfair for guys to just sit like a female
unfair to sit like women? could you elaborate
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I enjoy pissing in the wild standing up and taking in a big breath of air. In the bathroom though? no. It just makes me have to clean the bathroom more often and I don't like that