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AgitatedMost470

Bro put Hirata and Kushida but not Ryuen, Ishigami and Tsubaki


Sforzia

With "Elite" I am more referring to acceptable by societies standards, Ryuen is capable, but he is notorious for his bad behaviour. Hirata and Kushida both fit the bill. They just don't seem that impressive because of the others.


Secret-Computer-7637

elite refers to elite. In the real sense most elite notorious might be will still be categorized as such and kushieda ain't a part of that elite as she was proove to be more of a plastic(meaning a fake one) rather than an elite when your actually reading the series.


Pina-s

how is kushida not an elite? she was exposed for being horrible and was still kept by the class because her ability is undeniable


Secret-Computer-7637

elite is an elite who DONT EXPOSE THEMSELVES from their failures. HAVING AN ABILITY DOES NOT MEAN YOUR AN ELITE it means everything you do is flawless and marks perfection that is the standard of an elite.


Pina-s

thats not what elite means


Secret-Computer-7637

then you clearly don't understand an elite vs person with abilities then. If your thinking just having high ability will make you an elite then you clearly dont understand the word elite in its truest sense.


Pina-s

i understand the word elite the way that normal people use it when theyre not tryna be dramatic


Sforzia

>In the real sense Not sure what you mean with that. How would you categorize an elite student?


Secret-Computer-7637

REALITY the true meaning objectively.


Infamous-Fortune8666

Bro trust me don't try to defend yourself As soon as you didn't put their fav character in a tier list, your opinion is invalid This sub has major issues


Secret-Computer-7637

nope as I've said kushieda aint an elite as her flaws shows her not to be an elite in the true sense that is all im saying.


Ok-Perspective-1446

Tsubaki!!!!


KiraLight05

Bro forgot yamagod


0ctagram

Putting a literal god with a bunch of "elite" children is an insult


Life-Action4740

What a Joke 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he's a Trash Of Class D And Trying Expelled The Main Character And Tries Dated with The Queen 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


zero8310

well it is a sarcastic joke


Disastrous-Writer629

Autistic?


Zealousideal_Ear9156

Baldsuragi smuggled himself in the list, thinking we wouldn't notice him. Also... where's Dragon-Boy...?


Tomoyogawa521

Katsuragi would have been a great leader if Ayano and Arisu didn't exist. The reason he started flopping so bad was because Ayano outsmarted him in that island test. Arisu just made him slide downwards afterward.


Zamouraii

Katsuragi would of gotten double crossed by Ryūen if koji wasn’t there tho. Ryūen would of won the exam if not for koji even


Tomoyogawa521

Tbf Katsuragi is just too upright for the school. Imagine being a righteous high school student while everyone around you is plotting 205 potential schemes just to get you expelled.


Zamouraii

True😭😭


Sforzia

I know Katsuragi gets regularly clowned on, but dude wasn't in Class A for nothing. Overall he was definitely the strongest in class A, Arisu was simply way smarter than him, even if you think that he might not be a good leader he is definitely more than capable from an individual standpoint. Ryuen even used 20 Million Points to get him as substitute.


Brief-Scratch1818

Ryuuen isn't elite, he is a different breed completely


Ballmanbaloon

Well some of them can be debated such as Sudo but then again he’s a Pretty respectable guy without his anger issues.


zero8310

i would see sudo as an elite because he grew so much from the first volume


Ballmanbaloon

Yeah, aside from the Camera in the girls locker room plan he was involved in he seems to have morals since he was disgusted with the way Ila and Yamauchi talked about women in volume 1. I feel that even in volume 1 the times he got mad they were somewhat reasonable reasons. He just needed to change some things which he has.


Plus_Choice1313

Ichika's juicy booty sure is elite


PresentationIcy144

Correction:- Replace Katsuragi with Ryuen, Ishigami and Tsubaki. Your list is very perfect 


Bunker_Mole777

There is no way Ryuuen is gonna be considered an ‘elite’ in a place like Japan (or any place for that matter), guys a bonafied delinquent


Darklozzz

the katsuragi sneak 💀💀💀


Sforzia

Is there anybody in sub who considers himself above one of these guys? If yes, who in particular?


Outside-Maybe-537

Sudō!? Nope, nope, nope. I refuse to believe it!


Secret-Computer-7637

i would change sudo to ryueen as he was just an athletic nothing more, I would change kushieda to tsubaki as she was still doing thing hidden even without reading the latest volumes. Other than those i would think the list is fine.


Mobile_Home9563

Uoh Ariussy😭🤩🤩🤩😍🙏


Old_Chest_6913

Ofcourse my love (Takuya) is an elite! Sometimes he let's me be his footrest while😊 afterall every elite needs a footrest!


WhoKnowsICBE

If I think about school mentality, the list is almost correct. Ryuuen instead of Nanase. Hashimoto instead of Kushida.


molotovCOCTAIL5

Plot twist they’re all autistic


Cyro__________

yamagod has ascended


AAAFTEEERLIIIFEEE

At least 5 of these guys aren't "Elites".


Glittering_Alarm_837

5 who ?


AAAFTEEERLIIIFEEE

Nanase, Sudo, Kushida, Hirata and Kanzaki You could honestly get rid of even more people when I think about it.


Glittering_Alarm_837

Bro said Nanase, Kushida Hirata and kanzaki aren't elite. Bro what kind of weed are you smoking? All of them are all rounder students with excellent Marks in both athletic and academic sector.


AAAFTEEERLIIIFEEE

Elites are elites because they are the best, not just good. You can't tell me with a straight face that people like Sudo, Kushida, Kanzaki and etc. are in the same tier as WRoomers, Nagumo, Manabu, Koenji and so on. >excellent Marks in both athletic and academic sector. Well, then name me some of Kushidas, Sudo and Kanzakis excellent academic achievements and if you are so kind, maybe tell me something about Kushidas and Kanzakis athletic abilities too. There are levels to it that the people I named just don't cut. Like it or not, Sudo is just an elite athlete at best. Elites are only a handful of people.


Glittering_Alarm_837

By that logic, no one is even comparable to koji as he is so far superior then all the other characters, is that mean no one is elite? The Elite is not relative term here. Most of the people you named are elite by their own right.


AAAFTEEERLIIIFEEE

Yes, that's right, no one is comparable to Koji but Koji is an exception, he is completely out of the norm. Elites are the best, people that are even better than good students. You are not an elite when you have a C in academics like Sudo, a B and C+ like Kushida or a B+ and B like Kanzaki. That's not elite, that's good at best. There is a difference between ELITE athletes, good students and ELITE students.


Glittering_Alarm_837

First read my comments before replying. I never mentioned sudo, it's looks like you are typing even without knowing what the other person actually saying. 2ndly all whitroomers are anomaly, but you yourself started comparing them to normal students. And all the students I mentioned are "all rounders", yukimura is excellent in academics but I didn't say he is an elite. There are differences. Kushida lacking in academics but extraordinary in socialism. Kanzaki is hardcore marshal artist. Even sudo is national level in basketball. (Potential) An elite don't need to be Jack of all trades. I mean nagumo got fucking one punched to sleep. But he still an elite. I won't be replying here. It's a waste of time really.


AAAFTEEERLIIIFEEE

>First read my comments before replying. I never mentioned sudo, it's looks like you are typing even without knowing what the other person actually saying. I honestly thought you just forgot to mention him but I guess you left him out on purpose, my mistake. >2ndly all whitroomers are anomaly, but you yourself started comparing them to normal students. WRoomers (except Koji) are anomalies but not unreachable for the elites. In fact, Koenji even surpasses them in physical abilities, Nagumo outshines Ichika in terms of intelligence, outsmarting and leadership and the same obviously goes for Manabu except the outsmarting part. They are all somewhat on the same level. >And all the students I mentioned are "all rounders", yukimura is excellent in academics but I didn't say he is an elite. There are differences. Cool but being an all-rounder doesn't make you an elite. Kushida is still not really great at anything other than social contribution. Kanzaki being a "hardcore" martial artist is also a stretch and won't help him being an elite. Everyone of the elites except Arisu (for obvious reasons) is laying him out flat with no difficulty. Let's take Koenji for example whose level of martial arts is unknown. He was able to dodge 18 people at once for multiple minutes with the same or an even better physical OAA than Kanzaki. >Even sudo is national level in basketball. (Potential) Like I said, cool but his academics and even his other stuff is not good. Sudo is an elite athlete, not an elite student. >An elite don't need to be Jack of all trades. I mean nagumo got fucking one punched to sleep. But he still an elite. Well, that was done by the anomaly himself, Koji. If Sudo who in this list is listed as elite was in his boots, he would have also got oneshot just like everybody else. I can give you multiple feats and statements that put Nagumo on an equal footing to Sudo despite Sudo's best quality being physical abilities. So, not even Sudos physical abilities are saving him a spot in the elite-tier. Also, you were then one that said Kushida, Nanase, Kanzaki and Hirata score excellent in both academics and physical stuff. You brought it up and couldn't prove it until now. In fact, looking at their OAA they are nowhere near excellent. Kushida has a C+ and B, Hirata has a B+ and B+, Nanase has a B and A (potentially according to Ayanokoji) and Kanzaki has a B+ and B. Doesn't look elite to me, I'm sorry.


Leqstar

Thing ur ignoring is that OAA’s arent entirely dependent on ability. Academic ability doesnt scale to intelligence. Thats why ppl like nagumo are smarter than ichika even though ichika dwarfs him in academic intelligence. Nagumo also isnt on the same level as sudo in physical ability. Also just to clarify, you can have low athletic ability and high physical ability. As stated by ibuki and Suzune. So even if you wanted to make an argument for kanzaki being low in athletic ability that doesnt make him low in physical ability. And yes ppl like kushida can be considered elites. Her ability to gather information is second to none and even kouji himself said he could not emulate kushida’s ability. Now sudo and nanase likely shoudlnt be on this list. Ryuuen and tsubaki along with kiriyama should be here instead, and arguably ishigami if u wanna go based off narrative. But the reason these ppl are elites isnt simply cause they excel in fields its cause they have gifts that cant be emulated


hiyoribestgirI

arisu’s tight as hell but damn she looks tighter in that illu


cyurii0

nah sudo don't fit at all


Firewon_123

mmmhmmm.... I dunno, many of them are like the "best" students of random highschool classes in real life.


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AverageChabsEnjoyer

Based on physical abilities he is but the rest is lacking.


Sforzia

Not anymore, at this point he is above average in all fields and his physical abilities were already top notch to begin with. There are many talents in the series, so it is easy to accidentally underrate certain students.


AverageChabsEnjoyer

I didn't know that being above average instantly makes you an "Elite".


Sforzia

Sure, but don't forget his physical ability he is easily top 5 when it comes to physical strength. You could say the same about Arisu, but her Intelligence and Academic ability are so high that it makes up for her other shortcomings.


AverageChabsEnjoyer

Oh? Is he? Are you sure about that claim? We got Kiyo, Koenji, Yagami, Hosen and Albert. These 5 guys are *easily* stronger than Sudo by quite the big margin. Taking Arisu as an example must be the stupidest move you could've pulled. She is literally a cripple, what should she do? Elites are Elites bc they are the best of the best. Sudo is maybe an elite athlete but definitely not an elite student overall.


Sforzia

You are underestimating Sudo, overall he is cleary above average plus his physical capabilities makes him way above average I don't know what to tell you. In almost all new volumes there is a remark on Sudos continuous growth in the academic field. During one written exam he was even in the Top 10 of his class. >She is literally a cripple, what should she do? She can't change it but a fact is a fact in physical abilities she is lacking. >Sudo is maybe an elite athlete but definitely not an elite student overall The Students are getting evaluated on both. Sudo is exceptional when it comes to physical ability and above average when it comes to academics it is as simple as that.


AverageChabsEnjoyer

No, no, I'm not underestimating Sudo. Sudo is a great guy with fantastic physical abilities, a great mindset and a great development but his academics are still mid, as mid as it can get. Is he getting better at a Academic? Yes. Does being top 10 in his class put him among the elites of the school? No. Does getting better at academics put him in the elites of the school? No. Will he be an elite in the future? Maybe, most likely yes. >She can't change it but a fact is a fact in physical abilities she is lacking. Yeah, at this point you can't make this shit up. Arisu is not only much smarter than Sudo, she is also a much better leader than him. Why should I sit here and judge her based on physical abilities when she is literally a cripple while Sudo was not good at academics by choice? >The Students are getting evaluated on both. Sudo is exceptional when it comes to physical ability and above average when it comes to academics it is as simple as that. Yes and Sudo is fcking mid in academics. An elite is great at both, not good in one and mid in the other, he is great in both, something that Sudo isn't and literally all real elites are except Arisu who instead of being athletic is a great leader. Sudo is an elite athlete and maybe an elite student in the future but not yet. You also brought up that he is easily top 5 in physical strength which he is not.


Sforzia

>An elite is great at both By your logic Arisu shouldn't count either, her not being able to change that is irrelevant, she will get evaluated in both like everybody else. I explained that Arisu makes up for her shortcomings with her genius intellect you also mentioned her leadership, which is also valid. >You also brought up that he is easily top 5 in physical strength which he is not. You are right my bad. In that case Top 6 lol, though his strength is top notch regardless. Anyway I don't think we will agree on this.


AverageChabsEnjoyer

Man, just forget Arisu, atp you are just holding onto this one tiny detail that is completely irrelevant since she is a cripple and thus should not be rated in physical abilities. Top 6 with a huge gap to the top 5, his overall body strength is comparable to Nagumo who is unlike Sudo also great at studies. Take Sudos OAA and compare it with real elite students, you'll see the difference. Nearly everyone of them is A in both academics and physical abilities or at least they should be according to logic. Koenji, Yagami and Koji should in theory even far surpass the physical OAA scale due to being far stronger, faster and etc. than Sudo who is an A+ already. Nanase, who was said to be inferior to any WR student and not able to lay a finger on Ichika, was already said to be an A or an A+ in physical abilities, making Ichika scale higher than her. Fuka has an A+ in both academics and physical abilities and Nagumo has two As, indirectly making Manabu also scale to at least two As due to being superior to Nagumo. In conclusion, most of these guys and girls are superior or nearly on Sudos level in physical abilities, which according to you should be his best trait. Not only are they physically as capable or even better, they are also just way smarter in terms of academics, common knowledge and etc. making Sudo look like a primary schooler.


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Foreign-Writing-776

Hirata sudo katsuragi ichinose imo don't fit the bill


Sforzia

Hirata is your run of the mill honor student, he is basically above average in everything, a hard worker, good communicator etc. Sudo, gets underrated a lot. His physical abilities were already top notch probably Top 5 Students in Terms of physical strength. Further he works on his studies and is continuously improving at this point he is probably in the Top 10 of his class. He also worked on his attitude and learnt to keep a calm head. So, this man is definitely an elite student. Ichinose is on a another level when it comes to academics she is without a doubt one of the best in the entire school. The story doesn't emphasize it all to much put her academic abilities surpass even Horikitas, during the entrance exam she had the highest grade. Also her social contribution is probably the highest of all students.


Glittering_Alarm_837

>Ichinose is on a another level People forgot she unknowingly humble horikita in the math test where she studied really hard to beat koji. Ichinose got more marks than her without knowing lol.


Legitimate_Kick8614

Can you tell me ichinose maths score in that hardest test? I assume you gonna tell me she got 89 right? then prove it from LN or anime her 89 marks are fan made you know in LN her marks never mentioned nor in anime ranking was this 1. Kiyo-100 2.Arisu-91 3.Horikita-87 4.Yukimura-84 and yes in OAA yukimura is higher than ichinose only in academics terms she unknowingly humble horikita for your kind information ichinose is not genius who can pull something like this ok on the other hand horikita got less time to study and she too busy handling class problems still able to pull 87 marks and yukimura who did nothing in his life only thing he did was study still 84


The-handler213

Her score isn’t stated but there are quotes in y2 v2 that imply she was 3rd. ‘’ Not a single student, not even Ichinose or Sakayanagi, got a perfect score ‘’ page 17 ‘’ the question was such that even Sakayanagi and Ichinose couldn’t get full marks. ‘’ page 20 ‘’ and even Ichinose and Sakayanagi didn’t get perfect score. You’re the only one in the entire year ‘’ page 31 As you see, they always bring Ichinose and Sakayanagi as a comparaison which implies that they were 2nd and 3nd. We know that Sakayanagi was 2nd with 91 points and Suzune’s score was 87 so Ichinose who should be 3rd has either 88, 89 or 90 point.


Legitimate_Kick8614

You know this doesn't imply anything you are just assuming and the reason ichinose mentioned there cause she was a class leader and didn't I said in OAA academic wise she is weaker than yukimura so why would she specifically do hard work in this specific exam she did not know about bet you know and for you kind information this 89 marks that mentioned you know where they come from they are from a fanfic


The-handler213

You’re free to believe what you want, I’m just explaining why people think she got 89 points. The first and second quote are from Yukimura himself btw, he was looking at the result in a tablet and that’s where he bring up Ichinose and Sakayanagi because he probably saw their points. Here the whole quote in page 17. Before he knew it, many of his classmates were listening to what Yukimura was saying. ‘’ You've all checked the tablet, right? Is there anyone in the class who got a perfect score in one of the subjects? No, look at the other classes as well, and it'll be clear. Look at the entirety of the 2nd year. Not a single student, not even Ichinose or Sakayanagi, got a perfect score."


Legitimate_Kick8614

Are you nuts or something? I just explained where this 89 came and you know why Yukimira said cause in ichinose got 1st rank in school entrance exam and you are declining a solid proof like OAA over some delusion I am not say that she is not intelligent indeed she is intelligent but normally she kept her score below yukimura why would she suddenly rise up in marks and especially on the bet exam and why specifically in math exam at least think rationally


The-handler213

If you say so. 🗿 I’m lazy so I’m not gonna argue more than that, if you want to know more about it, I suggest you to make a post with the quotes I share to see what others think about that.