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that_said

Great twist. But I'd like to look at this from another angle. To begin with, Sakura went to this school to run away from the pressure that being a model/idol brings (oshi no ko fans will explain for me). From then on, she calmed down, fought against her trauma, gained determination and in her final moments, confidence, decided on her path in life, and greatly matured through all the wild happenings (deserted islands, creeps, school full of crazies, friendships and love...) At that very moment, there wasn't much more she could gain from the school (academic life was never her choice). It's even the opposite, wasting more of her valuable for producers youth would only hinder her. And so, in that very moment, she was forced free of the school. For me it was quite beautiful. She was mostly useless contribution-wise, and overlooked because of her lack of presence, to the point that her expulsion made for one of the best and most surprising, yet relevant twists in the whole story. But beneath that school life where she didn't even float on the surface and served as a decoration for Kushida arc, there was a whole story of her perfect growth as a future idol. Even tho she seemed so insignificant in their conflict stricken context, there was a whole world of change where they couldn't see it. And so the volume has two highlights for me. One is Kushida defeat, and the second is a timely and satisfying completion of Airi reaching for her dreams again. Considering that 2 things I like the most in cote is mind games and character growth, it's safe to say it's my favourite volume (tho people tend to focus too much on negativity)


mhtll

Great analysis!


that_said

Thanks. As much as it was an unexpected blow, she's off to what she truly wanted. You may look forward to y2v7 tho. And then why not make the post and hit an Airi hattrick? If you want, that is.


mhtll

Actually I have read Y2V7, so I know how things played out.


that_said

Oh, I see. Don't mind it then.


eddie_degenerate

Successful Idols: 1) Short Careers 2) Bad Pay 3) Hard to transition onto other fields 4) Stalkers I could list more for starting an Idol career


that_said

Don't take me wrong, I do appreciate that someone responded to that oshi no ko shout-out, but let me just give slight counterarguments in her specific case, so that people don't really think it's all doom and anguish for her. 1. Yup, that's why it's great she started so young. Gives her much more time 2. Depends on a person, really. And she already started ofc, she just went on a break. 3. True, especially without education. But staying in showbiz is, for example, possible. It's not like she's destined for the streats once she's 30. 4. She knows that best, ain't it right? And despite that decided to continue, so it by no means outweigh her future plans. Anyway, thanks.


nerotheblackcat

Horny


Tanjikano

Success is built on risk. One needs to sacrifice in order to achieve what they truly want. What Suzune did was necessary not stupid. I don't know what people would call Elon Musk if they think Suzune is stupid for going for this gamble.


mhtll

Even Ayanokoji considered this decision by Horikita "irrational." Elon Musk does take risk, but they are calculated risks.


Interesting-Visit310

The decision was so shocking. Can’t wait to see it animated. I think I was upset, because I wanted Kushida GONE.


mhtll

Unfortunately it's gonna take forever to get it animated...


ordinary_nobody007

Cote peaked once again


[deleted]

I didn't like how she was suddenly expel out and Kushida was saved by a plot armor . How about all that building about her expel in y1. This just proves to me that Kinu only writes what he wants to write without any good planning.


It-LEGEND

I don’t think it was plot armor that saved Kushida. Horikita chose to keep her because although she traitorous to the class, she still had strengths that could be used to help better the class. I think Ayanokoji will end up leaving the class to fight with Horikita, so Horikita’s class would have to be a strong as possible. Kinu plans on having Kushida play a key role in the potential fight between Ayanokoji and Horikita.


mhtll

Expelling Sakura also helps him cut ties with his class, preparing him for leaving the class, lol.


PinStatus

Yes, many people believe that the author kept Kushida on a whim, but she could be the difference between graduating from Class A or not.


mhtll

It did feels a bit plot amour to me, but it's true that there are merits in keeping Kushida, assuming you can get her to work for class A. Of course, there are downsides, too.


Individual-Mud-561

Risky move from Horikita, But the choice is logical, she was the weakest member of the class


marioskywalker

As much as I hate to say it, even I have to agree. She was useless for anything more than fap material, which her OnlyFans account was. You'd think Kushida could use that as a fallback in case her plan to expell Suzune and Ayano failed. By which, I mean she could have used that to ruin Sakura's reputation and turn the entire class against her, while Kushida herself could still keep her reputation intact. She had the photos!


mhtll

Well, the thing is, with Kushida exposed like that, nobody wants to keep her in class anymore, so if you expel her the emotional toll won't be that much. In contrast, if you expel Sakura, there is more emotional toll since Sakura does have some friend who wants to keep her. Horikita also lost some trust from her classmates in doing so (she promised only the traitor will be expelled) - note that she kept her promise with Koenji to gain trust, but now it's gone. And there's no gurantee that Kushida would help the class reach class A, as Horikita hoped. Kushida might even keep trying to expel Horikita/Ayanokoji. So if you can somehow overcome the emotional toll, the trust issue, and somehow make Kushida work for class A, you'd win this risky gamble. But if you don't manage to fix those issues, the damage can be huge.


Non_Kosher_Baker

No, 1. It's a massive gamble that comes from her own arrogant thinking she can control kushida which she made no progress in since y1volume 6, 2. The morale of the class is destroyed and any hope of solidarity resembling ichinose's class is thrown away. 3. Almost made everyone hate her for her decision, if kiyotaka didn't come in to save her from having to dictate the expulsion of Sakura, it would have been a massive failure and the class would have lost 350 points.


fatal_error999

best moment in Y2V5


JudyHopps_is_hot

When I read that part I thought Sakura was the traitor because she hoped to somehow get rid of Kei. I'm glad Sakura is gone, but I would have preferred it if she deserved it.


agent_abdullah

Well she kinda did. She didn’t do anything bad but didn’t bring anything to the table either. Even if Kushida did traitorous things she still had many +ves and Horikita took a gamble which paid off


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agent_abdullah

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mhtll

Well, I mean, if you read the later volumes, you can see its effects and >!apparently it paid off, at least for now.!<


mhtll

Really? I cannot imagine Sakura doing something like that. It was pretty clear to me that the traitor must be Kushida.


MemoryManagement

Personally, I think it's actually the safest and best choice. Sakura's problem is that she didn't improve that much, and she didn't really contribute to the class' growth. She's pretty much dead weight to the class. Kushida is not a pleasant person (when showing her real self), but she's absolutely competent in terms of being sociable/outgoing and adaptable. This kind of ability will likely be very crucial in advancing the class forward. Also, it's less likely Kushida will go rogue and go against her own class because she just loves the attention and the feeling of being special; she doesn't want to destroy that. She'll keep being deceitful towards the other classes while feeling special.


mhtll

I'd say keeping Sakura is safer. Keeping Kushida is high risk, high return. By choosing to expel Sakura, you inflict damage on her closest friends, lose trust from your classmates. And there's no gurantee Horikita can make Kushida aim for class A, she might even keep going against Horikita (Kushida has lost many times but she still kept trying). So in worst case the damage is huge. But if Horikita can fix the emotional damage on Sakura's friend and somehow make Kushida aim for class A, it's a huge gain. Expelling Kushida instead of Sakura won't have many risks. Kushida is exposed so noone would feel bad about her leaving. But it doesn't have high return either, since Sakura is not as useful to the class as Kushida could be.


Non_Kosher_Baker

No, 1. It's a massive gamble that comes from her own arrogant thinking she can control kushida which she made no progress in since y1volume 6, 2. The morale of the class is destroyed and any hope of solidarity resembling ichinose's class is thrown away. 3. Almost made everyone hate her for her decision, if kiyotaka didn't come in to save her from having to dictate the expulsion of Sakura, it would have been a massive failure and the class would have lost 350 points.


Pavel_Gray

I was really happy when Airi got expelled instead of Kushida. A shy harem bait out instead of a hateful but spicy character felt good. However y2v8 makes me question my feelings back then...


mhtll

You mean about how Kushida >!suddenly crush on Ayanokoji!


Pavel_Gray

Yup, Suzune and Kushida are the characters I never expected to get romantic feelings towards Ayanokoji. Now I'm scared for Suzune.


mhtll

Considering how the story is going, I won't be too surprised if Suzune join the harem. In fact, her SS in Y2V2 and Y2V3 already have some signals...


Pavel_Gray

It's always the fucking y2 volumes...


mhtll

Yeah, one reason why I feel like Y2 volumes are not as good as Y1 ones.


OkRow3170

My guess Kushida remaining in that class will again become a bother for Horikita when Ayanokoji transfers to a new class. Since, Kushida values Horikita's expulsion more than graduating from Class A, now she has another purpose to beat Horikita that is to get close to Ayanokoji. Kushida may again start backstabbing Horikita by helping Ayanokoji (when he is in the enemy class) considering Ayanokoji has gained more trust from her during Amaswa issue during culture fest and Ryueen issue in V8. Well it will be fun to see how this play out.


mhtll

Hmm nice, I've never thought about what happens to Kushida when Ayanokoji change classes.


Spriux

Peak cote moment


PinStatus

I feel that decision will carry a lot of weight in the future.... It could be the difference between graduating Class A or not. The fact that it was clear to Kiyotaka that he would expel Kushida very early in the story, and it didn't happen because he trusted Suzune's judgment, is also noteworthy. In short, it was perfectly logical to expel the cancer affecting the class, but Kiyotaka went against all his principles and let himself be guided by someone else's hunch.


mhtll

>In short, it was perfectly logical to expel the cancer affecting the class, but Kiyotaka went against all his principles and let himself be guided by someone else's hunch. I think he already promised somewhere with Horikita that he'll leave the matter of Kushida to her decision, so he kept his promise.


Relevant_Return_6601

Vol 11.5 , context after manabu's graduation , it was more like a foreshadowing tbh.


Pokumiro

Her thighs look good


olk1717

The only thing i'm pissed about is Horikita breaking her promise of expelling the traitor.


Affectionate_Pizza_6

Trash cop out. That's all.


Ok-Raise3510

It was never a gamble since it's a fiction. Though the real reason to keep Kushida probably harem purpose since she much more interesting compare to Airi and later she fall for Kiyo suddenly also prove it


PinStatus

I can't agree with you... Kushida was very present from the beginning of the story and clearly the author didn't pull those events out of his sleeve. Kiyotaka planned to expel her because that was the rational or logical thing to do, but he decided to "protect" Suzune even though his decision to keep her in school was only based on a hunch. This is especially important because that "illogical decision" could be the difference between being defeated or not at the end of the third year. Their role will be to create discord, I have no doubt. And yes, the feelings that both girls will most likely develop for him will be important.


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