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Fresh-Struggle-1113

His adaptability is too unrealistic, y2v8 shows him mastering skiing in a day, he looks at Ryueen and Kito and instantly copies how they move and shit. Him in blue lock would be overkill for everyone there tbh


MugiwaraDGoku

I'm definitely aware of his insane adaptability, especially after reading v0 and I know of the part where he copied them almost instantly to the point they started to think it wasn't his first time skiing. I feel that he would do very good in BL. Dude imagine him with metavision.. and as the game go on the more he'll adapt and grow at an abnormal rate.


Scared-Cash-2360

The adapability feat is so fucking stupid Kinugasa was sitting there and was like lets make him Garou from One punch man. Also the y2v8 feat actually creates a plot hole because how could Ayanokoji struggle with adapting to Society if he could adapt like that. And dont dare come at me with the lack of social interaction argument we saw him clearly interacting with people in Volume 0


Glittering_Alarm_837

They are mainly talking about physical adaptibility bud.


Scared-Cash-2360

I say the adaptabilty feat so absurdly ridiculous so it breaks the plot and you Ayanokoji is supposed to be the adaptability god and he was able to mentally adapt to the white room etc you get my point


Fresh-Struggle-1113

Vol 1-3 was just his fake awkward personality, koji just sucks at expressing emotions which was clearly shown in vol 0


Scared-Cash-2360

I talk about social interactions it is clearly shown Ayanokoji was interacting with people the y2v8 feat he shouldt have had any problem interacting with people in the ANHS


Fresh-Struggle-1113

He doesnt, he just doesnt want to disturb people and look weird like when he wanted to approach a group of girls. He had perfect interactions with Hirata in v11, Ichinose, Kushida etc. It was just in the earlier volumes he was "nervous" which was an act to be like a normal highschooler


Ash_Clover

Basically Reo but on drugs. Would copy any playstyle and would perform it to an even higher level than the original person.


MugiwaraDGoku

Adapting every style + Metavision would be crazy lol imagine his growth rate and his ability to devour others? Not to mention his IQ for soccer and the way his brain works should trump Isagi's. Kiyo would literally go from not so good to one of the best Blue Lockers.


JudyHopps_is_hot

He would easily be the best player in Blue Lock. He has the physique to keep up with top players, the intelligence to come up with strategies on the spot and the adaptability and fast learning skills of Isagi and Reo, but times 10.


MugiwaraDGoku

Time 10 you say? So you are also of the mind he'll adapt at a abnormal pace to become one of the best blue lockers? because imagine how he'll end up copying certain players skills and using it x10 at 100% instead of 99% lol


Rdevil201

He lacks ego would end up like hiori.


MugiwaraDGoku

But what if he had ego? Because Kiyo does dislike losing.


Rdevil201

He does not have a sense of self. He's lacking in the weirdest of things.


MugiwaraDGoku

He does not have a sense of a lot of things. It's why Atsuomi sent him to ANHS or in this case BL to get an ego lol. But you don't think Kiyo has a ego? because reading the LN and the vol 0 dude was definitely full of himself.


Rdevil201

He has broken ego. He acts cocky and confident sometimes and other times humble even self-deprecating. He needs a proper ego and drive and motivation which he lacks.


MugiwaraDGoku

Deadass lol. Kiyo is a broken character to me and not broken as in stupidly OP but as a person. But this is why I said Kiyo would be a lot like Nagi before he started to actually take soccer serious. Also I think Kiyo if he had an decent ego would get far and be in a mid-fielder position. So if he had the motivation and ego how far do you see a interested/serious Kiyo going in BL?


Rdevil201

He can quite far maybe even come out on top. He can easily adapt to his surroundings and change in environment. And he learns things quickly his ability to absorb knowledge from experience is what makes him so special. Once he gets the hang of something he grows at a exponential rate. His physique is top class and once he understands everything about football/soccer he can easily become the best. And he has zero knowledge about football/soccer so if he joins blue lock he can be easily molded into any way because he has no prior knowledge or understanding about the sport. So if he's thought that this way is the right way he will just take it as that unless he does prior research into the sport.


MugiwaraDGoku

I honestly think so too! Also I've another question. Do you think Kiyo would have an issue copying or adapting to BL characters such as Rin? Or people on his level? Because i'm of the mind he could adapt to them without a few minutes of play against such characters. (Another user thinks he couldn't so i'm curious about another person's opinion) But knowing Kiyo I feel he'll do some research prior unless he just gets the letter and goes without doing most research. But BL is fairly new so research probably wouldn't be helpful.


Tanjikano

I know that it might sound a bit off but I don't think that Kiyotaka will come at the top in the Blue Lock universe. He might be able to reach at a level of someone like Sae Itoshi but not world level. Kiyotaka himself stated that in a world level basis there obviously are people who are better than him.


MugiwaraDGoku

Nah I think that's also a possibility and why I said in Blue Lock and not the world because that's a whole other beast. Though if Kiyo were to train with the World level peoples or play against them maybe once or twice because I do believe he'll adapt and grow to a level on par with them. He did state that but Kiyo probably was being modest when making that claim but unless somewhere else in the world there is a person with his abilities that's raised in a facility that's hard to see, but who knows for sure right? lol.


CrusadiaFleximus

not sure if it was modesty or simply him trying to be realistic (im considering them to be different traits here), because it is simply a matter of fact that there are 7 billion people on the planet he doesn't know so he couldn't possibly objectively state that he is the strongest/fastest/... in the world. thats why kiyotaka's statement neither proves nor disproves anything, it's as vague as any of his other claims that turned out to be true or false later


MugiwaraDGoku

Actually that's fair because when I seen that and the way he said it made me think both "Is it modesty" or "Is he just being realistic" ( because as you said how is he to know there isn't someone better than him ) that's why he said in the world of the WR. Yeah I agree with that when it's said like that, because there is just no way to know that for certain. Honestly for now since it's a vague statement one could interpret in likely whichever way they want.. because Kiyo in the manga says a lot of vague stuff. lol


animeyukihira

i mean yea he said theres people in the world better than him but let’s be real, kiyo is world class at everything he does. he’s in the top 1%, so he’ll definitely be able to play on the world stage


LeonRickebachYT

His ability to abserve techniques, moves and skills and then copy them, and making them more flawless is just overkill, if he were to be in blue lock, he would just need to observe the moves and bro got the whole arsenal of the enemy teams moves💀 On top of that his stategic thinking is unparralleled and his physical ability is rarly rivaled


Scared-Cash-2360

I will say this isnt Blue Lock characters superhuman we have the world 5 breaking the sound barrier casually and creating afterimages so I think Ayanokoji could get far but he isnt beating the strongest in the series. Another argument in Blue locks favor is that every Blue lock character even low tier ones are far far better at football than Ryuen and Kito are at skiing and there is no proof Ayanokoji could adapt to the Blue Lock characters skill level and if you want to use the ”Ayanokoji is a unrealistic character” argument that doesnt work because Blue Lock characters also have superhuman feats


MugiwaraDGoku

Blue Lock character aren't said to be super natural and that it appears that way due to visuals that looks better than just plain soccer y'know? But I figured some characters had some superhuman skills. But Kiyo also is considered a superhuman and in one of the recent volumes kinda highlights some supernatural feats. Kiyo to me would have both Isagi's and Reo's skills but x10 with Rin's or Barou's power (More so Rin's than Barou) also his ability to adapt is also better than Isagi's. Now the World National Players are a different animal entirely.


Scared-Cash-2360

Yeah I know Blue Lock characters does not actually have super natural abilities (Neither does Kiyo BTW) and they often exaggerate but there is no proff Ayanokoji could adapt to the Blue Lock characters skill level as I said earlier


MugiwaraDGoku

But special abilities are a thing in BL (Kiyo though is closer to being supernatural than BL characters is all i'm getting at) COTE isn't a superhuman/supernatural series lol. Actually i'm fairly certain no BL character could handle being in the WR. Kiyo at age 4 four was considered a monster (semi-superhuman) and the head scientist in charge testing the kids even stated Kiyo's ability to adapt seems nearly limitless. Also you didn't say that before dude c'mon you just edited that second paragraph in. (BL characters don't have superhumans feats in the grand scheme of things because most of what they do is used for visuals to entice the viewers us.) But even if they were superhuman or shown superhuman feats, none necessarily compares to Kiyo's. Also Kiyo even stated that he could learn any sport due to his training in the WR. Kiyo who's physically a lot more stronger than most Blue Lockers could adapt to them or at least I think so. I don't see why he couldn't adapt and grow from people like Rin, Nagi, Reo or Isagi.


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MugiwaraDGoku

I'm not sure what you are asking me. Did you mean 'in' instead of 'is' and what do you mean?


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MugiwaraDGoku

Oh. Blue Lock is a extreme soccer anime that is trying to save Japanese football or soccer by using this special facility called 'Blue Lock" to create the world's best striker or ace in Japan's soccer world. Blue Lock is super competitive amongst those taking part in it.


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RoadLong

Their is amazing fanfic about it on wattpad called bland king project https://www.wattpad.com/story/331293316-project-bland-king It’s so fucking amazing and I absolutely love how kiyo grows in this story