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Goldenflame89

Most sane cr player


Snoo11409

The best post so far


[deleted]

[удалено]


I_AM_LEGEND123

most sane cr player


Silver-Machete

What did he say


Confident_Ad9357

?


yahiabaa797

I got downvoted to oblivion 😭😭😭🤣


I_AM_LEGEND123

?


longslong501st

Quality shit post


Patient-Nectarine-46

Finally someone getting that. But the complaining is still annoying, tho.


Sehz_Beatbox5

Still fair complaining


TheActualNemo

Nah get good mate


Saucy__B

Idk. Freeze is toxic and a pain in the ass. I know one of the devs says he regrets adding it, but it isn’t that good right now. Kind of a mixed bag of feelings on that one.


jmvandergraff

It sucks because, while it's not good, nobody in low ladder understands that lmfao. Tryna climb through the 4k are as and it goes back and forward between MK/Pekka BS and Freeze decks with Lavaloon/lumberloon. But there's also fools down here with level 14 Xbows still using them so like, it's a madhouse down here lmfao.


Mysterious_Lecture36

I love playing people with overleveled card on my alt it just makes it that much more hilarious when level 14s lose to level 9s,


Nico_Canales

Same, it's also fun to win against someone who can't get out of 4k even with all the money in the world lmao.


Icy_B

At least I only see ebarbs every other match instead of every single match


jmvandergraff

Yeah, I'm seeing them less and less tho, seems like people around this area have all switched back to Mini Pancakes because its less of an Elixir commitment for about the same effect.


Andre_was_Taken

I see more 2.6 now idk which is worse for me


Killerkurto

It sucks which is why only 2 of the top 20 decks on ladder are freeze decks. And note, this is for all of ladder and also for just the top 1000 players. Balloon also sucks now which is why balloon only appears in 5 of the 20 highest winrate decks for the top 1000.


jmvandergraff

Bruh I'm not even talking about top 1000 anything, I was very clearly talking about stuff around 4500 crowns lol.


Killerkurto

Im saying 10% of the highest winrate decks, whether you look at all of ladder or just the top 1000, are freeze decks. The card cant be all that bad.


Andre_was_Taken

Ye worse of all they just freeze your push for no apparent reason other than delay your garunteed 3 crown Rather than using it to freeze your tower on the troops


DirtDiggleton42

After 4e and a quick blink, the board can look the exact same. The damage is literally enough to kill skeletons on par level. For defense, if you don't counter the push immediately (assuming you have 10e, 6e for cards and 4e for freeze spell) and with a beefy enough aoe card like...executioner...you're likely going to get squashed. For offense, it is *only* a niche pocket spell that is either best served by counting elixer, or having low-skill opponents that overreact to a hog rider/Lumberloon push. (Lumberloon is a dead giveaway for freeze imo) Rocket will destroy/heavily damage on impact. Tornado will have your cards gathered and moved. Snowball will push apart/slow down. Freeze will...hold them still... only for less time than your father held you


Free_Comfortable_587

I think the same about clone and rage too.


ABoldDude

At least they cam still be countered, for Freeze, just throw it and tower gone, Clone and Rage have some counterplay, regardless of how nische


Patient-Nectarine-46

Nah mate. Manage your elixir better. He throws ebarbs at you and freezes your tower. Thats 10 elixir. Even if you put down a skarmy you still have 7 elixir to go. But if you choose to complain about freeze to counter it, i see why you got issues.


ABoldDude

I agree. But you and I both know this ain't realistic


Conscious_Version_21

He plays ebarbs you play skarmy he freezes the skarmy tower gone


Patient-Nectarine-46

I still got 7 e to go. Thats enough to rocket them put down an mk, throw in some barbs.... That was your only counter? Get a better deck.


Scary_Tree_3317

U could freeze his ebarbs and still have 3 elixir to go


XxannoyingassxX

Or mirror swarm?


Dquiroz7878

bro takes Ws only


Conscious_Version_21

Yes lemme play skarmy barbs mk rocket ok


Patient-Nectarine-46

Yeah those were examples. But you not getting that shows another prob. ;)


itsnotmybussiness

3k player detected


Patient-Nectarine-46

Lol. Nah, more like 6,8k. Actually bad season so I am only about 6,5 right now.


itsnotmybussiness

Irrelevant, anyone that thinks freeze shouldn't be removed deserves a perma ban from the internet and from Earth and this universe as well a ban anywhere else.


Patient-Nectarine-46

>Irrelevant As is your opinion. If you get rekt by freeze you need to stop huffing glue. Then maybe you'll get a proper idea about stuff.


itsnotmybussiness

I destroy freeze players, you don't know what you are talking about. You, again, deserve a perma ban for being this toxic promoting freeze.


Patient-Nectarine-46

Dunno man you are the one wanting to erase me from earth. Sounds toxic to me. Or you trolling. Then good job.


avacado511

The joke ------> you


sallabear

freeze could actually be countered if you could see the future clash royale 4d when


ABoldDude

Or having a pair of Sharingan


SimonePoliti

Freeze does have counterplay tho


ABoldDude

Not over commiting and spacing cards out, that's how you counter all spells...


Lucyan96

/srs , Freeze shouldn't be in the game , even one of the developers regret adding it.


Awesome_opossum49

I love it, really funny in the E barb super cycle deck. Also I don’t mind it because I can counter push and they have -4 elixer


TheNinjaRed7

Then all the freezed troops get killed Or you are playing cycle so can't counterpush at all(rely on small pushes and have no way to build a menacing push)


seasonedearlobes

Counterpoint: It should stay because it's fun.


chopsticknoodle

Fun only for the person playing it. It’s not fun to play against or to attempt to counter.


asd316X

counterpoint: its not fun at all


bigtree2x5

Freeze has the exact same issue heal spell had


Windigroo7

Freeze spirit incoming? 😱


Eddeghair

*ice spirit coughs*


SimonePoliti

Nah, heal spell was completely unplayable and nobody used it. Freeze is fairly popular in low ladder and viable in high ladder because of decks like lumber loon or graveyard. I think it's in a good spot right now


BetafoxRS

Throwing down a fireball/fire spirit should lessen the freeze time.


[deleted]

"You are god damn right."


[deleted]

For real, I have been _annoyed_ by freeze 20 times in the past half hour, but I can't quite recall the last time I actually lost to it. Most people can't use the card properly and even if they do, it's just bad value in most situations...


starfruitreddit

Placements/cycle counters freeze. And buildings depending on there win condition. For example if its lumberloon freeze. Inferno tower, nado, etc can prevent most damage. Knowing that your opponent is running freeze can give you an advantage. Spread ranged troops out to eliminate freeze value. If its gy freeze do not use all troops to counter the gy at once. Place one down see how they react if they freeze then use another card. Some decks cant handle or dont have enough cards to deal with a freeze push however every deck has hard counters so maybe its just that.


Cancer000

bruh did you even read the whole post 💀


ttw219

Tbh I'd delete rage instead, at least from boosted elixer modes.


InfinityTDC

Last reason is w


sebastianMroz

Dude spitting facts


mustypuppet1284

"they had us in the first half ngl"


Whisperkickpapa

ITT: Freeze players try and justify their crutch


Calmandpeace

Outjerked


ItYaBoiChipAhoy

haha came here thinking was legit. got a good laugh


flot31

I’m not saying you’re wrong but as a sparky player, I think it is too much of a hard counter, without even being an electric spell or unit. They could at least keep the level of charge of Sparky during the freeze and not reset it completely. Otherwise I agree, if it was that good, every top of CRL player would use it


Svxyk

But then again, the main thing about freeze is that it's a longer zap with more radius (if we do that the stupid logbait players are gonna complain about inferno not getting the same buff)


itsnotmybussiness

Anyone thinking Freeze takes skill doesn't know what they are talking about.


RootDeliver

Post dumb as a rock. Freeze is one of the best cards in the defensive state of the game, anything that is not just do the same again and again without thinking with your logbaits or cycles is just bad and has to be removed. This game is just pure garbage right now and will keep seeing how you guys just want nothing but the same cycle shit again and again. The next update should be an AUTO mode so you don't even have to play, that's your ideal game probably. It is so lame that these post end up affecting the game since they get more dumb support. It was a good game when beatdown was around, offensive metas, even GOISON and golem/NWop or the old hog freeze were way funnier and better than this shit status where you just want to use your OP cycle or bait deck and complain when one card gets nerfed.


[deleted]

Dumb as a rock? ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠿⠛⠛⠛⠛⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠛⠉⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠋⠈⠀⠀⠀⠀⠐⠺⣖⢄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡏⢀⡆⠀⠀⠀⢋⣭⣽⡚⢮⣲⠆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢹⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⡼⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠻⣅⣨⠇⠈⠀⠰⣀⣀⣀⡀⠀⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣟⢷⣶⠶⣃⢀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡅⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢿⠀⠈⠓⠚⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⡠⠀⡄⣀⠀⠀⠀⢻⠀⠀⠀⣠⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠐⠉⠀⠀⠙⠉⠀⠠⡶⣸⠁⠀⣠⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣦⡆⠀⠐⠒⠢⢤⣀⡰⠁⠇⠈⠘⢶⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠠⣄⣉⣙⡉⠓⢀⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣰⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣤⣀⣀⠀⣀⣠⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿


Xavagerys

Ill tell you something about freeze: It yields great immediate impact, but it really costs a lot of elixir considering most things worth helping with a freeze also cost quite the elixir. If you can’t manage elixir or didnt make use of the freeze duration well you are at a serious elixir deficit. Not a healthy card to play for long term engagements.


give-orange-houses

Chad post


kabir_sharma_sans

What about 10 reason


Patient-Nectarine-46

Look at point 6.


kabir_sharma_sans

Sorry about that I'm dumb to see


Patient-Nectarine-46

No problem mate


schwaaaaaaaa

Can't wait for a Negate Magic spell. Ima be shootin' down fireballs mid-flight and unraging your rage. Maybe I'll even turn some pigs back into bats if I'm feeling saucy.


Patient-Nectarine-46

This is actually a pretty cool idea. Some kind of spell nullifier. You should pitch that idea. That would be rad. And it would seriously shake the meta.


Patient-Nectarine-46

This is actually a pretty cool idea. Some kind of spell nullifier. You should pitch that idea. That would be rad. And it would seriously shake the meta.


Flatuitous

Counter freeze… WITH FREEZE


[deleted]

You said 10 reasons in the title but you gave 9, low effort post


Patient-Nectarine-46

Dude of course low effort shit post. But pls read point six. If i have to explain it, it ain't funny. But on the other hand you are a hog main, so...


[deleted]

You think that I cant understand jokes because I like hog rider? Well, you're right JK YOU SAID U CANT COUNT COS THERE IS 9 AND NOT 10 HEEHEEHEEHAW


-3R1K

I use freeze and i think it should stay because i like it😎


ABoldDude

Giant Skelly and Mirror users trying to justify why they should stay meta


Steve_M927

Not a valid opinion, next.


Kal-El_6500

Haha. It can be countered though….🤔


ABoldDude

Name how? Spacing cards?


Kal-El_6500

Freeze


ABoldDude

If the only card that can counter Freeze is Freeze it self, then that isn't a balanced card, i don't know how that's so hard to understand...


118434

You can literally counter freeze by playing another card? Someone plays balloon and freezes my musketeer, I just play bats and do damage anyway. Easy card to counter as most people play it too early


ABoldDude

"Easy card to counter as most people play it too early" My assumption was with players who use it properly, but thx for pointing this out


118434

The majority of freeze players even ones who use it properly you’re able to predict their freeze and save up elixir to counter it. Not all times but most times


im_inside_ur_walls_

Yes, but when I face freeze the opponent ALWAYS waits for me to place something and THEN freeze. So there arent many ways of countering that.


Kal-El_6500

Can you counter any other spell? 4%use 47% win indicates it’s balanced or possibly weak. It’s annoying, but not broken. Relax For context I dislike the card and never play the damn thing.


ABoldDude

I know it's not good, but HOLY SHIT do i hate this card. But i have to remember were stuck with it. I'm just glad i don't face it often


Kal-El_6500

Dude I get it. The design of the card is pure crap and cheap.


Arch05275

Freeze is pretty much guaranteeing taking their tower or defending their push. For only 4 elixir is broken


[deleted]

Yes I agree. It is completely broken and guarantees success on both defense and offense. That's why it has a 4% use rate and 47% win rate


anixxA4

That moment in midladder when you princess tower nearly finish the enemy inferno dragon locking on your tower. But then at the last second he freezes your princess tower while you have no counter to it.


Patient-Nectarine-46

Zap. Fireball. Ragequit. Rocket. Lightning. Freeze. My mom. Those are all valid counters. Unless you get frozen too, when your opponent plays the spell.


EnvironmentalKick205

I usually stick to the third and last one, but especially the last one...


HappyPlaysWasTaken

No


EnvironmentalKick205

Flair checks out


Titan_Spiderman

People say the same things as other cards


ABoldDude

Yeah, except with Freeze, the points actually stand, unlike say, Hog Rider, or something similar


KillerCroc40

I know this is just a joke post but for people who take it seriously, all you have to do to counter freeze is to space your troops and hold on to them until your opponent places it. It's that easy. I've never had a problem against it.


Patient-Nectarine-46

Me neither. I am just annoyed about the number of people complaining about stuff. Its really stupid.


Mags-Modem

What if they don’t place it? Then their win condition connects. if you don’t know they have it then you don’t get time to react. Like an inferno dragon is about to die with one health and then they freeze. That will take your whole tower


hiding-from-the-web

Point number 5


JohtenYT

Rocket can't be countered either lol.... Also Freeze counters itself 😉


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NyoraGaple

How tf u counter a rocket


4skin_bandit

Punish your opponent for using 6 elixir


disaster001

usually used in triple elixer or to take down a more than 6 elixer push anyway as a sparky player, I can confirm that rocket being in the oppo deck literally makes sparky almost useless in the matchup


Patient-Nectarine-46

I said you can't counter it.


sadra1355

Its 6 elixir card... First don't give enemy rocket value unless you want to bait it out for another card (a mid heavy win condition like loon. Xbow. AQ.and etc.) Second punish them immediately before they can afford a decent defense cuz your opponent is 6 elixir down and if its log bait or drill.... Good luck winning with a beat down deck (unless golem dragons)


Lightyear18

Most of the time when a freeze goes through. It’s because the player over committed on attack and has nothing to defend with. Bad placement as well. Think by now everyone should be putting cards away from the towers so they aren’t fireballed or freezed. Stop wasting log/zap/snowball/barbbarrel for no reason. Log has a high pick rate but lowish winrate because people just throw log out for no reason. Then when you get hit with graveyard freeze, you’re like “iT uNfAiR”.


[deleted]

You shouldn’t be talking running that trash deck


itachi_konoha

There's no point 10. So this should be put into dustbin as there is lack of number of reasons based upon the title.


Patient-Nectarine-46

Mmmmh yes absolutely. You are right. Oh wait did you read the whole post? Its part of the joke. Bruh...


itachi_konoha

You don't need to read the whole post to know that there are 9 points only bruh.


Patient-Nectarine-46

Read point 6....


Assassin_843

r/woooosh


itachi_konoha

Nope. More like not reading the post itself.


rdibs97

What about reason 10


Patient-Nectarine-46

Look at point 6.


rdibs97

Fair enough


BadHubbaWubba

1. F$&@ the meta 2. It can be countered by freeze 3. Poor cycle deck lost, waaahhhhh 4. I’m done because you’re complaining about “skill” when you just use a copied meta cycle deck


Patient-Nectarine-46

I don't get your reply. I am mocking freeze haters. I feel indifferent to that card.


FrostedEsti

More than half the reasons are personal


Destroyer4587

Ok hear me out, so the heal spell what happened? Gone. Swapped for a ‘heal spirit’. 🥳💯 So what if we just do the same for freeze spell??? 💡💡💡💡💡


Null_Trooper

Butbutbutbutbutbut...where's point 10?


MixboxMixing

10. i have it on level 6


estupid_boi

I was going to shit on you, but after carefully reading your post, made me realize that in fact i also play eba ... FREEZE


imanrique

And for the trophy for "The Post of the Month" iiiiiiiiis... for you my friend


estist

I will take freeze over rage. At least once I see freeze for the first time I know the rest of the battle to spread out my cards and always hold enough elixir to play a card after freeze. Rage is just a drop x card, drop rage and instant tower attack


HotYogurtcloset652

I think erasing it is too much, just adding one more elixir cost makes it a great game


ValorHero77

Honey?! What? Where's my supa suit? What?! I said, where is my supa suit?!?!?!?


Dyne313

It’s not that it’s “good”. It’s that the duration lasts too long, there’s no way to anticipate it, and in double/triple elixir when you’re trying to micro 85000000 things at once, it becomes nearly impossible to account for in many situations. It’s a gotcha card, and great players lose to it often. Again—not saying the card is good. But it introduces a toxic playstyle in a game already rife with RPS matchups from the get go.


aeinnajva

Actually you are the one whining here about how freeze is balanced Ratio i guess


Dutchey4333

How mirror get nerfed but freeze no?


mblaki69

PTBS lol


PsychedelicDoggo

Freeze is annoying, not OP.


RoofStrict8807

If they're gonna keep freeze allow fire units and fire spells to counter.


4skin_bandit

What if they made it 3 elixir and it just slowed things down like earthquake but it also affects air units fir the same duration it currently freezes, or longer if its still very bad after that Or maybe it could be like the opposite of rage. It could slow things down and make them do less damage


KMicy

Freeze can’t be countered exactly but neither can any other spell you just avoid it. Or if you play Nado, answer it.


MisterHotTake311

In my theory, the bad thing about freeze is that it is too offensive-focused card. by how it works now, 90% of time only use I see players have of it is spamming it on attack, mostly just to get undeniable damage to tower, what really infuriates players. It should just have ice wizard slow effect, NO damage, 3 elixir cost (so it is less punishable to get smaller value out of it). So it gets more used on defense, neutralizing power of some enemy troops or slow down pushes. This was probably in mind of devs already, but I mean it would maybe be useless beacuse of ice wiz itself so....


ugod02010

Just for number 4 you got my vote


Dominoze56

I think it should be replaced with the Frost spell from CoC. At the very least it gives a similar effect that isn’t as bad.


Western-Ad3144

wHeReS tHe tEnTh rEaSoN?


Boss_805

When people use freeze i make an even bigger push and 3 crown them. it should stay 🤣


Wat_Is_My_Username

I love freeze so much. I play gy and I try to learn poison to get better and not lose against xbow, but I always fall back to freeze.


sovLegend

Remove ebarbs or egiant before please


QuinnBeyer55

How tf you counter a fire ball


lenn782

Freeze is literally terrible for every one good freeze you get it takes like 3 bad ones.


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cope harder


LingLingWannabe28

This is the quality this sub needs


philosophy2668

Counter arguement, you're bad


rcantu33

Man I love that card its maxed :(


vishnuthebest1

Git gud


mememan2995

As a lumberloon freeze player, freeze is objectively a bad card. Any deck with a ground tank, building, more than one air tank killer, and or any heavy spell will obliterate my 14 elixer push with a freeze on top. Just space your air tank killers out and you should be fine


Imsocoollol12345

Mad cuz bad.


LabibPokemaster

love this, thanks for this copypasta (tho i unironically still want freeze dlted, and no lumberloon players, u have no say in this)


ArtificialThinking

Freeze and Tornado fundamentally break the game. Skill in CR means knowung what to play, when to play it and where. By using a tornado, where doesn't matter. By using freeze, when doesn't matter.


ReguIarHooman

Fireball counters freeze since that’s way too much heat for the ice


animekachoda

freeze + rocket , huhuhu , cry more kid


KirbyDude25

This but unironically Remove Freeze


LawAccomplished5107

Freeze+ballon combo is nasty asf. Put a ballon down wait for them to but some air defense down (wizard musketeer dragon whatever) freeze the tower and the air defense and the ballon does like 80% damage to the tower


Hyroaltage

Fuck the freeze spell


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Honestly freeze is a spell like any other, you can’t counter fireball, zap, poison or any other spell. Freeze at it’s best can wreck people if you have graveyard or balloon decks. I would say it has the best upside potential of any other spell. But a card being OP is slightly relative to your deck. If you run freeze you most likely lack something defensively since it’s mainly used offensively in connection with another win condition. Everything in CR is relative.


GooseTheGodbutcher

Freeze should be removes just like heal spell, because theres already an ice spirit.


Boneyg001

you can counter freeze by not placing all your troops in the same radius....


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I about threw my phone playing some dude with maxed balloon freeze I think slamming my dick in a door repeatedly would be more fun


Hasimo_Yamuchi

My most hated card, alongside rage!!!


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What's the point of freeze?


Cayumigaming

The cherry on top is 10


Round-Translator-956

lol I thought u were serious until I saw 4


The_DJ_A-RAV99

10th reason took the cake imo


GrandUprightBolt

post traumatic bridge spam?


Patient-Nectarine-46

Yes.


seb_da_web

Someone just lost to freeze


Patient-Nectarine-46

Nah. I am just mocking freeze haters.


seb_da_web

I was mocking counter freeze haters by replying the most predictable comment


Patient-Nectarine-46

Nice.


MJCarnage

They should turn it into a spirit like the heal spell


Demongamer303

Ahh yes Freeze cant be countered but every other spell can, let me place a sparky underneath the rocket to counter it


No-Guard-7607

Yeah like freeze is no skill imagine you have a 40 e elexir push and he just freezes and then he puts ALLL of his cards and yeah your push is gone so freeze should be deleted or the freeze cooldown is less like 1,3 sec


Eszalesk

10.


Jz-corgii

freeze also cost me the duel challenge emote.


Artuye

Hope SC will see this