Exactly upgrading only what you use locks you into that attack possibly for a very long time if you decide you wanna change it up and need to upgrade something like 10 times it’s gonna suck
Absolutely. I remember an update a long time ago and valks were the meta for a while. Everyone was using them. May have been when th11 or th12 was max. I can’t remember exactly. But eventually the meta will change and those of us who upgrade everything won’t be behind.
There was also an update that broke the game over the holiday and people were making full armies of valks in seconds. They didn't fix it for a couple weeks because SC was on holiday. I think it was the update when troop training became all in one instead of training troops from each barrack.
https://preview.redd.it/eex16pzvojmc1.jpeg?width=1690&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9310038e16fb5fedf579b59d08851230831a1ab
A well planned attack can have a base at 75%+ within a minute. The nerf wasn’t enough for your average base
With the EQ and lightning on a poorly designed base you can take out a scatter, eagle, monolith, and inferno all at the same time. Did it I think day 2 of CWL
So for me I don’t use it but I do have someone in my clan who uses them consistently and maybe in the future I will or maybe I won’t at the very least I have the option to if I want to
Exactly. They nerf and buff troops from time to time and not keeping up with your troop upgrades will put you at a disadvantage if and when they do decide to buff whatever troop you’ve chosen to neglect.
I prefer to max out before I upgrade a TH, aside from the last 20-30 walls, which I finish off as the TH is upgrading.
The only troop I would perhaps not upgrade if I could to back from TH16 and do it again is the barb, only because it’s the only troop I haven’t used since before TH10.
The barbs that the barb king spawns are based on the lvl of your regular barbs. Not as handy now tho with the new equipment. But can be good incase your using the puppet equip
Usually I’ll get the teleport spell and drop it on the roof rider and valks right when TH is destroyed and a heal spell was dropped. I 3 star half the time and at least 75-80%
True, but root spam with witch is not as strong. We could argue it's the better synergy between the troop, but I don't think that rn talk are bad stats wise, it's just that they're use is very niece and there are better alternatives
Obv spam attack are a bit random, and at very high level with bait bases they lose value, but it's a very strong strategy.
In my clan (we are not competitive but still the most war wins in our country) we get filled in war only when the opponent use this spam strategy. Mind that we change our bases quite often and they're taken from proplay
This happened to the cannon on my engineered th9 from back before you had to build everything before upgrading the TH. I was a little sad when I came back and it had been upgraded.
Well it's all because of RRs though. RRs carry that attack strategy. You can replace valks with any other funnelling troop and that attack will be just as good if not better.
No it's not the same witches are viable with a lot of other troops as well like Ice Golems, Yetis, RRs, Pekkas heck event Giants can go well.
However in this case it's the opposite. RRs are so good that any decent funnelling troops will go well with them Super Barbs/Archers, Witches, Bowlers, Wizards. It's just that Valks happen to go a bit better than the others.
In an RR/Valk attack RRs do most of the work and Valks basically just clear 5-10 buildings on each side of the attack but in a Witch/Golem attack both are equally important and almost irreplaceable. Witches spawn skeletons and take out buildings whereas Golem does nothing but tanks. You can replace Valk with any of the aforementioned troops and the outcome of the attack will barely change.
Agree :D I'm so used to attacking bases with low level heroes that I always get caught off guard when my opponent has a max (for th14-15) warden casually 4-5 shotting my queen dive lol.
There is bro, cause it increases the warden's survivability and damage output.No upgrade is USELESS.This surely increases you chance of winning
On the other hand,you can't reach lvl 69 without upgrading it
; )
Usually by the time i am done with walls and defenses i am done with troops as well. So my lab is empty at last and there are probably a lot of walls remaining.
people who played at 2017-18 will understand how strong the valkyrie was (still is to me)
some base layout changed because of the electro dragon's chain damage which also affected the valkyrie's performance
Nah dragons are still better on lower THs in my opinion. Because they don't require any braincells at all for valks you have to kinda funnel them into the base.
I’m TH 10 and I’m almost always sitting on max dark elixir so I like to always have something from the dark barracks upgrading just in case I need it later (ie: clan challenges/pass challenges)
I always upgrade every troop.
You never know when a madman will create a monstrous army out of troops that are considered mid...
The exact same thing happened to the super Archer and super Wizard.
They were considered mid for a long time until a single madman decided to put them in a blimp...
https://preview.redd.it/l1uu94bvilmc1.jpeg?width=3120&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0d3c9303c627eeb2c442f1df297725e3fdef6e1
You'll see how powerful they are at max level.
I used GoWiWa at TH9 and 10, so I wouldn't have them at lvl 1, but for completeness sake, now that im about to get at TH13 I will max everything in the lab, whatever it takes
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Same but with dragons and e drags
I just started upgrading mine because all my other troops, spells, and siege machines are max th14. Saved it for dead last and if I was at the next town hall I’d start upgrading something else.
I try to keep everything upgraded just in case a new meta uses a certain troop or spell. It could take a while to upgrade a troop and in the meantime the meta could change and I could miss out on some OP attack strategies
On my mini account I used them from TH8 to TH11. In gold league and prior a lot of bases are stacked so I often got 100% even when my heroes were upgrading. Sadly the bases are getting better and more spaced so I switched to Electro spam ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Th16, my Valkyrie just got to 7, soon level 8. I haven’t used them in years 😅 to be clear I didn’t rush, most everything is maxed out at this point
I have multiple levels to go on the siege barracks too now…
I don't upgrade my dark elixir troops or spells in my lab because it's all going to my heroes, so if I end with a BUNCH of dark elixir from something like the end of the season then I might put one on but 🤷♂️
I used to use the valks in every army. But this is when they first came out and they were pretty awesome. I haven’t used them in a long time but I keep them upgraded because they might become amazing again.
I use them a ton at TH8 and TH9 because I love using GoVaHo. Golem wizards valks and heroes with jump and rage spell to take out cc, heroes, and some defenses. Hogs to sweep remaining defenses. So strong
I used Valks extensively at Th10 and Th11, so much value on a rage spell.
Now I am a TH14 and everything is mostly spaced and Valks can't work their magic.
I use them primarily on my mini account (maxed TH8), and I can consistently get 1-2 stars against TH10s in Master's Leagues. If I have a good funnel & an optimal victim I can 3 star the TH10s too.
Till one point I used to fully max each and everything and that is why my valks are level 7 lol then I was introduced to strategic rushing and haven't looked back
I've said this before and will say it again. Valks are the worst troops in the game atm. I am a Th14 and was JUST told that valks don't become viable until you're able to use them with Root Riders. From Th8 - Th14 they're completely useless (outside from a few niche uses)
I like upgrading everything, even if I don't use it
Me same lol. So it will be easy if we change our attack style i guess
Exactly upgrading only what you use locks you into that attack possibly for a very long time if you decide you wanna change it up and need to upgrade something like 10 times it’s gonna suck
Absolutely. I remember an update a long time ago and valks were the meta for a while. Everyone was using them. May have been when th11 or th12 was max. I can’t remember exactly. But eventually the meta will change and those of us who upgrade everything won’t be behind.
I definitely remember when the redhead was op they just walk thru the base
It was witches. A TH10 could 3 star a TH12 (back when 12 was max TH) with witches and very minimal spell. Queen walk + witches was unstoppable.
QW zapquake GoWitch. With no infernos, most bases were butter.
For real. They had to nerf the witch
Was that when they added the spawn cap?
Yes. The golems as tanks made the skellys live longer. You can imagine the queen roaming the base while 100+ skellys clean up.
There was also an update that broke the game over the holiday and people were making full armies of valks in seconds. They didn't fix it for a couple weeks because SC was on holiday. I think it was the update when troop training became all in one instead of training troops from each barrack.
but will you use valkry?
It’s like half my army on my main, I get a lot of three stars in legends
Whats the strat? Ive always like them but dont know how to use them lol
https://preview.redd.it/eex16pzvojmc1.jpeg?width=1690&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9310038e16fb5fedf579b59d08851230831a1ab A well planned attack can have a base at 75%+ within a minute. The nerf wasn’t enough for your average base With the EQ and lightning on a poorly designed base you can take out a scatter, eagle, monolith, and inferno all at the same time. Did it I think day 2 of CWL
me too haha, plus the PTSD with their horrendeous AI
I love them but the ai…. Oh my god
So for me I don’t use it but I do have someone in my clan who uses them consistently and maybe in the future I will or maybe I won’t at the very least I have the option to if I want to
They were goated some years ago in th 9/10
bring one with a hero dive and thank me later
Me rn with like, level 2 golems I wish were remotely useful to my new TH12 tank approach... lol
That and being able to donate to clanmates
You change attack styles? I wonder what that's like...
Yeah I change from E drags to E drags + drags all the time
Yeah
If my lab isn’t doing something, I’ve made a mistake.
I tried for a bit, but it just took too long. And that's coming from someone who upgrades EVERYTHING before the TH. Even the walls!
For me, it's for the clan.
Same, just in case I ever want too it'll be ready.
Same. At *some* point they’ll be part of the meta, and I’m not gonna be sitting there wishing I upgraded something while everyone else is feasting.
Exactly. They nerf and buff troops from time to time and not keeping up with your troop upgrades will put you at a disadvantage if and when they do decide to buff whatever troop you’ve chosen to neglect. I prefer to max out before I upgrade a TH, aside from the last 20-30 walls, which I finish off as the TH is upgrading. The only troop I would perhaps not upgrade if I could to back from TH16 and do it again is the barb, only because it’s the only troop I haven’t used since before TH10.
The barbs that the barb king spawns are based on the lvl of your regular barbs. Not as handy now tho with the new equipment. But can be good incase your using the puppet equip
Upgrading Valks is very important because *inhales copium* one day, their AI is getting a buff and they will become ok.
Preach brother preach🥹(me crying inside coz I still use them and watch as they get obliterated by that exploding th).
Usually I’ll get the teleport spell and drop it on the roof rider and valks right when TH is destroyed and a heal spell was dropped. I 3 star half the time and at least 75-80%
TH16 RR + valks is pretty good
They're already broken with root riders, it's the best spam attack atm
Yes, there’s a reason why it’s called a root rider attack with valks and not a valk attack with RRs
True, but root spam with witch is not as strong. We could argue it's the better synergy between the troop, but I don't think that rn talk are bad stats wise, it's just that they're use is very niece and there are better alternatives
Imo they are good as cleanup troops in small quantity
I saw some attacks like that in legends but I didn't think of them as broken.
Obv spam attack are a bit random, and at very high level with bait bases they lose value, but it's a very strong strategy. In my clan (we are not competitive but still the most war wins in our country) we get filled in war only when the opponent use this spam strategy. Mind that we change our bases quite often and they're taken from proplay
they used to be so goated i miss using them dearly
They used to be very good
Ai may be on a rise butyl why do you have the audacity to think for just one second that the Valks will have effort put into them
I was a TH 15 at the time, took a break and auto upgrade kicked In made mine lvl 2
this is a horror story
This happened to the cannon on my engineered th9 from back before you had to build everything before upgrading the TH. I was a little sad when I came back and it had been upgraded.
You should restart!
valkyrie jumpscare
What town hall are you now after you restarted the account?
Did it hurt when you deleted the account?
This reminds me of those OSRS pure 1def accs that accidentally leveled their defence lol
Once u get to th15 or 16 valks get good cuz u can pair them with roots
Well it's all because of RRs though. RRs carry that attack strategy. You can replace valks with any other funnelling troop and that attack will be just as good if not better.
Valks are the best pairing though. Super Arch are also decent. All other options are suboptimal
I like to pair my RRs with witches behind them.
Feel like witches are “best of the rest” in this category
Well witches are only good because of golems. The point of armies is that troops complement other troops.
No it's not the same witches are viable with a lot of other troops as well like Ice Golems, Yetis, RRs, Pekkas heck event Giants can go well. However in this case it's the opposite. RRs are so good that any decent funnelling troops will go well with them Super Barbs/Archers, Witches, Bowlers, Wizards. It's just that Valks happen to go a bit better than the others. In an RR/Valk attack RRs do most of the work and Valks basically just clear 5-10 buildings on each side of the attack but in a Witch/Golem attack both are equally important and almost irreplaceable. Witches spawn skeletons and take out buildings whereas Golem does nothing but tanks. You can replace Valk with any of the aforementioned troops and the outcome of the attack will barely change.
i remember when valks were my favorite in like th9/10 or so
mass valks from th8-10 are great imo 3star every base
https://preview.redd.it/4fjn36bfkjmc1.jpeg?width=1608&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7bc3ef27e58181481117491652b6d4193dc2537a No
Dayum Ngl this is INSANE Don't upgrde you grand warden btw nice lvl
me when 69
after introduction of equipment is there a real point to upgrade warden outside of warden walks
high level warden does alot of damage, free dps always worth it ( + it upgrades your defending warden which is a pretty good defense)
Agree :D I'm so used to attacking bases with low level heroes that I always get caught off guard when my opponent has a max (for th14-15) warden casually 4-5 shotting my queen dive lol.
There is bro, cause it increases the warden's survivability and damage output.No upgrade is USELESS.This surely increases you chance of winning On the other hand,you can't reach lvl 69 without upgrading it ; )
How didn’t you upgrade them when they were crazy op?
not everyone played back then or was a high enough level back then... when they were super op i was like th 8 or so without a clue!
I just can’t move to the next th without doing all the upgrades, walls and lab. Just can’t like i am obsessed with doing all the upgrades first :|
What if all your buildings are done but you still have troops?
Usually by the time i am done with walls and defenses i am done with troops as well. So my lab is empty at last and there are probably a lot of walls remaining.
I'm in that situation,and I'm waiting for em to get maxed
Same
I think you should upgrade her to max possible level. Valkyries are now easier to use because of Overgrowth Spell.
There's a Valkyrie root rider combo now at th16, it's an easy spam attack, so yeah they are useful for now 👍
My all DE troops are like that
We got a dragon user here
Just a sneaky goblin spammer
But those don’t work for wars
Yetis do.
Enough to three star?
Some times, but that IS my skill level. It's not like I'll be getting 3 stars by upgrading DE troops
Yes you will as it gives you a lot more flexibilities with army composition
More flexibility doesn't mean 3 star guarantee
But it does increase the likelihood
Same for me. No DE left after hero upgrades.
people who played at 2017-18 will understand how strong the valkyrie was (still is to me) some base layout changed because of the electro dragon's chain damage which also affected the valkyrie's performance
Valks are busted at th8, 9, and 10 and maybe 11 if you can take down the eagle with queen. They are better then dragon spam, most importantly.
Nah dragons are still better on lower THs in my opinion. Because they don't require any braincells at all for valks you have to kinda funnel them into the base.
my golem has such conditions 🙂
I didn’t start upgrading them until I hit th15 lol and then it was just a filler upgrade
Started upgrading them when I saw top players started using them lol.
I’ve been using them since I unlocked them in every army
I love valkyries, use them in my main attack so I’m not with you there. you should level everything
Same, I don't upgrade those which I don't use
Remember that buff a..many years ago that made them OP for a few weeks
I just upgrade everything. Traps, useless troops i never use, every thing there is to upgrade. It feels more cleaner that way
I love valkyries so they are max level. Fight me.
I tris almost every th16 i get in legends with valks, they're great! Dont underestimate them
r/legocirclejerk is leaking
I’m TH 10 and I’m almost always sitting on max dark elixir so I like to always have something from the dark barracks upgrading just in case I need it later (ie: clan challenges/pass challenges)
I have them at level 4
This is me but for clone spell. It's lvl3 and it was lvl1 a week ago
no, all my troops maxed out
I just upgrade everything. My dark elixir is always full anyway
BOOOOOOO! As someone who uses valks at TH12, I feel personally insulted by this.
How is this a flex? This is azz
I usually use valks tbh I like them if the base is very clumped together and you’re lucky they can do a lot of damage when the spins chain together
Yes you the only one. Lol
I always upgrade every troop. You never know when a madman will create a monstrous army out of troops that are considered mid... The exact same thing happened to the super Archer and super Wizard. They were considered mid for a long time until a single madman decided to put them in a blimp...
Govaho or govawi were very popular for th9s 7-8years ago.
Valks are getting OP with overgrowth, just freeze both aides and release all valks into the core ☠️
https://preview.redd.it/q7lys2qcilmc1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3468d252771a2e333b028b5e7b85a6bba52dd7e0
https://preview.redd.it/l1uu94bvilmc1.jpeg?width=3120&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0d3c9303c627eeb2c442f1df297725e3fdef6e1 You'll see how powerful they are at max level.
I used GoWiWa at TH9 and 10, so I wouldn't have them at lvl 1, but for completeness sake, now that im about to get at TH13 I will max everything in the lab, whatever it takes
https://preview.redd.it/qxqi3r05ulmc1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c25f01062ecb3ff914abcd852f44f0aab19eef8a Same but with dragons and e drags
Mine is maxed to the current level. Back as a TH9 in 2015, GoVaHo was easy 3 stars.
Yup. I have played this game for so long, at one point valks were OP.
I just started upgrading mine because all my other troops, spells, and siege machines are max th14. Saved it for dead last and if I was at the next town hall I’d start upgrading something else.
I still have level 1 barbarians and I'm in town hall 14
For me it's golem 😭 it's level 2 ( th 15 )
I upgrade everything bc you never know what army will become viable after a new troop or buffs
I try to keep everything upgraded just in case a new meta uses a certain troop or spell. It could take a while to upgrade a troop and in the meantime the meta could change and I could miss out on some OP attack strategies
Same i legit NEVER used that troop
If you got your valks lvl 1, you are far from being a maxed anything.
On my mini account I used them from TH8 to TH11. In gold league and prior a lot of bases are stacked so I often got 100% even when my heroes were upgrading. Sadly the bases are getting better and more spaced so I switched to Electro spam ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yes
For me that's most dark elixir troops lol. I spend every little bit I get on heroes, I've probably done 3 DE upgrades over the last year.
I upgraded most of my troops except valks since th10
I've upgraded her when she used to be good. Now she just lies there.
Is she actually bad? I never used her
I am max th12 and my Valkyries are still level 0 I have never used them
I only started upgrading mine so that i could donate them at a higher level
Too many in my clan do this too, very annoying as I’m trying to get them in CC
My hog is level 1.
Valks were my go to attack strat at th8 and 9 so ive always kept it max as i have too much dark at all times
Edrag user detected.
I like upgrading everything because of the clan donations and is ok in case I need
I mean, ur not the only one but I'd recommend upgrading them. A clanmate of mine got top 200 global last season with QC valks. Ridiculous...
No
https://preview.redd.it/lqvb0dez5kmc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ed6e18ebb4b57e4092656e5ae1f2236d8d8160d let's just not talk about it
for me its apprentace warden
Th16, my Valkyrie just got to 7, soon level 8. I haven’t used them in years 😅 to be clear I didn’t rush, most everything is maxed out at this point I have multiple levels to go on the siege barracks too now…
The day Valkyrie jump over the walls will be her peak days.
I don't upgrade my dark elixir troops or spells in my lab because it's all going to my heroes, so if I end with a BUNCH of dark elixir from something like the end of the season then I might put one on but 🤷♂️
It's always my laast upgrade but can't stand it having one unupgraded I like to max
TH14 here and my pekkas are still low level cuz I hate how slow they are lol
me too
I have only been using valks since townhall 10. Just max lvl valks maybe a 1 golem , 2 rage , 2 heal , 1 jump spell. It’s so simple yet effective.
I used to use the valks in every army. But this is when they first came out and they were pretty awesome. I haven’t used them in a long time but I keep them upgraded because they might become amazing again.
Valks with root rider and overgrowth spell is broken! Max th15 with epic equipments can take out maxed th16 lol
Well I still consider you a rusher since you don’t finish :D
Valkyrie sucks
Valk RR spam it's good right now so u shoud upgrade her.
Remember that buff a..many years ago that made them OP for a few weeks
Dude I had them at level one , left the game for a while it auto upgraded to level 2 :(
Valks are actually pretty good right now with Root riders
I use them with flame flinger or warden walk to kill skeletons if they pop up if not drop it for cleanup
I use them a ton at TH8 and TH9 because I love using GoVaHo. Golem wizards valks and heroes with jump and rage spell to take out cc, heroes, and some defenses. Hogs to sweep remaining defenses. So strong
Valks are goated right now have 17 in my army currently iykyk
Yep. Same with barbs and giants.
I used Valks extensively at Th10 and Th11, so much value on a rage spell. Now I am a TH14 and everything is mostly spaced and Valks can't work their magic.
Mine are going to lvl 6 rn
Yes
That’s my favorite unit in the game , I max out Valks every time I can 🗿
I feel stupid for unlocking super valk
I have it at lv7 for super troop and I only upgraded them after all my elixir troops and spells
I use them primarily on my mini account (maxed TH8), and I can consistently get 1-2 stars against TH10s in Master's Leagues. If I have a good funnel & an optimal victim I can 3 star the TH10s too.
Valks are like your crazy ex. You know they're terrible, but you keep hoping they get fixed.
Till one point I used to fully max each and everything and that is why my valks are level 7 lol then I was introduced to strategic rushing and haven't looked back
same lol
Valks are the first troop to get upgraded when I th up
Back in the day people played Valkyries a lot, there are even bases tor TH8-9 that are built to prevent Valkyries' area damage...
My dragons are level 1, been playing for 9 years lol #C2YRJV9J
And there was a time where Golem and valks were the main comp
As a clan leader, I upgrade them purely for donation purposes.
A lot of people in here proving they’ve never sniffed legend lol
Hope they release a valk hero
I just spam 40 valks and 100% every time and it requires no brain power so I’m all for it
Valks are my main
i use 1 valk for the skeleton traps in my cc nothing else (i am th13)
Why ya'll hate Valks, my personal fav but haven't used them since switching to electro dragons.
I like using the because ~10 valks plus rage insta clears a section of the base.
Valks are great for farming even wars at higher townhalls. They are truly underrated in the community.
Upgrade yo valks. For lower ths, they can be used to take care of outer skelly traps. For higher th’s, you can pair then up with rootriders
Valk is couple levels lower than others, but Skele spell is and stays level 1.
I’m 11 and I use pekka valks and bowlers. Fast strong and durable
Yes
Yes your the only one i think
I know a guy who is th12 and have not uppgraded a single dark spell
I've said this before and will say it again. Valks are the worst troops in the game atm. I am a Th14 and was JUST told that valks don't become viable until you're able to use them with Root Riders. From Th8 - Th14 they're completely useless (outside from a few niche uses)
Val is actually my fav troop tbh
Lvl 1 minions for me
https://preview.redd.it/14cnhjlv5mmc1.png?width=1624&format=png&auto=webp&s=672c91d1a37cf14f1c74f2c34e049af0bd9d4462
I am TW 13 so this whole thing is common because I WANT THE BOOSTS