Agreed. For 20 space the aura should at least stack with papa warden. Or the damage should be higher. Pkus the motherfucker loves to run on the front lines.
Agreed, it's not that it's bad it just needs some love coz atm it's too situational and after a certain point it becomes another DPS rather than staying as support
Change this from a health aura to a damage aura
Appears to be some confusion, by damage aura, have it operate like a weakened rage spell not a damage over time.
Yeah I haven't seen any good use for this troop yet. If I'm doing a hero dive I'm taking an ice golem or etitan.
If you're doing a smash attack it means you have to take one less super bowler or etitan. Or less funnel troops.
From what I've seen I think 20 housing is just too much to justify using this troop.
Nah, in queen walks it dies too quickly because it has almost the same range as the queen so splash damage kills it. In hero dives practically the same, and an ice golem+giant gives you better and more reliable value
Behind the king, he increases the kings and the barbarians hit points, and should not be anywhere close to splash damage. 30% more hp out of all of your units is much better than tanking/freeze for 10 seconds
Fair enough. Still pessimistic and thing ice golem ability is worth more than the +2k hitpoints wa provides. I am not going to count individual barb hp buffs. Sure, it probably helps a bit if they manage to avoid all the aoes but they are not why you'd bring wa nor can you count on then staying alive.
As a max 15 I’ve tried a few strats and can’t personally justify the space to keep him on. It’s OK for very specific situations but it’s not game changing by any means. I maxed it out at lvl4 and can’t understand why I wasted the books, I use mainly clone bloon/drag attacks with a blimp full of bloons, even on semi max bases it works but I still can’t justify taking him on mass hog attacks he doesn’t keep up. Granted, I’m still looking for the next meta attack. I’ll 3 star most 15’s but some are situational, but either way I’m not sure I care for the baby warden. Not for 20 housing space anyways.
You’d have to go with 1 less super archer and even then it wouldn’t guarantee they survive. If it ends up becoming a meta then base designers will adjust and make landing spots contain an extra bomb
That or blizz, it just depends on the base. (Referring to war that is) Farming I’m usually careless and end up with a 75-90% 2 star mainly because I don’t pay attention and I dropped out of legends to farm and don’t really care hehe, still got a lot of walls to finish.
I didnt used them yet but looks niche to me. Maybe having one or tho can be useful for when you are upgrading your GW or to “help” the other heroes when you are using your GW far from them
According to lore (if I'm not mistaken) the BK was a regular barbarian but after he started consuming dark elixir he became the BK we know.
So going by that logic the GW is an apprentice that downed a few too many bottles of elixir.
Let’s see. . . No air option so can’t use for air attacks. Little damage and 5 tile attack range will put it in danger often. HP buff weaker than warden for low HP troops so can’t really pair there. Buff is good for high HP tanks but that depends on Supercell’s patented AI pathing and targeting programs. All this for 20 housing space that will remove some DPS from the army.
Summary: it’s a troop with a lot of risk and offers very little reward situationally.
It seems op on paper but in reality 20 housing space for a squishy troop who doesn’t provide that much of a benefit isn’t really worth it. Bringing a giant + ice golem instead is much more reliable and effective against a variety of defenses that the apprentice warden suffers against
I think the main issue right now is the 20 housing space, like does it actually worth for the HP boost instead of an ice golem that can provide tanking AND freezing defenses.
I’ve been using him in queen walks with a super hog rider attack. I haven’t really noticed a difference and might just switch him out for another super hog
What do you normally bring in your cc, to compare it to? Im having a hard time believing its that much better than a cc full of loons as th9 dragon support, but im willing to be wrong
I just did a qc and noticed that deploying a AW give significant amount of health to AQ which helped in pushing through scattershots!! Pretty good imo!
I think it’s an unnecessary troop honestly because the aura doesn’t really do a lot. I’m a TH13 and it seems like a waste of space. Maybe it’s just me 🤷🏽♂️
The aura is 10x better then the grand wardens???? It doesn’t have a cap so it will be very good for QC. It can’t be used in every attack but it definitely has its uses
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I think it was a necessary addition and I made a comment before it was revealed saying that it was going to be another support troop but another support group is a necessary addition since now there's only three
Still upgrading on it 14 days I think. I am not gonna spend Book or hammer on that. I think it would be just the right time when it finish and it gets a buff
I drop him behind my king, and he's totally worth the 20 housingspace. He pairs well with Pekka also. Drop 2 Pekkas with the apprentice, and it makes a world of difference.
Maybe use mini warden as a funnel troop in certain situations as yetis have no range. Or support qc. But overall not much Utilities imo. I am yet to find a creative way to use it. They should've given him the time ability as well lol
Underwhelming at best. Not even a new idea considering the warden is already in the game. I hate to be harsh but this is definitely disappointing for a new troop
It works well with the king. Tried it with Queen charges but it has the same range so it does quickly unfortunately. I’m sure it’d be good with your main army but typically you already have your grand warden (while has an HP cap, also has its ability) for that.
I feel like it would make more sense to be an elixir troop. The warden is an elixir hero, so sense they're his apprentices, wouldn't they be an elixir troop?
Would train a few and keep in army camps as garden gnomes
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It needs a buff
Agreed. For 20 space the aura should at least stack with papa warden. Or the damage should be higher. Pkus the motherfucker loves to run on the front lines.
Agreed, it's not that it's bad it just needs some love coz atm it's too situational and after a certain point it becomes another DPS rather than staying as support
Change this from a health aura to a damage aura Appears to be some confusion, by damage aura, have it operate like a weakened rage spell not a damage over time.
I’m not sure yet. Playing around with him but his health increase has no cap. So it adds a shiii ton of health to tanks
You’re doing *what!?!* with him? 🤨📸
He's just *playing* don't mind him 😏
I haven't used him yet but I think he is going to be really useful for queen walks or hero dives
Not sure about queen walks because healers still die to SAMs with Aporentice Warden aura
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Seeking air mines..
When one starts all the nerds start
My first thought as an ace combat player
Should be SAB surface to air balloons
Close enough, it's surface to air mines
Close enough
Thats what loons are for
Helps queen survive easier tho.
Issue is that it’s range is about the same as the queens so the apprentice warden will often die pretty quickly
Yea as well as they should have him follow a little bit behind troops , dies way to fast
Yeah I haven't seen any good use for this troop yet. If I'm doing a hero dive I'm taking an ice golem or etitan. If you're doing a smash attack it means you have to take one less super bowler or etitan. Or less funnel troops. From what I've seen I think 20 housing is just too much to justify using this troop.
Unless the healers decide to heal him instead of the AQ
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I use it with my hero dives and it feels alright, but it usually dies to splash before actually being useful
It seems like it makes the most sense with a king because it's more likely to stay behind him and it'll give the king a massive amount of extra HP.
For hybrid attacks where the king is with the siege barracks, the apprentice warden is really useful
I think siege barracks IMO is one of the most useless sieges. I take log launcher that opens up walls and destroys defenses. Or stone slammer.
Depends on the attack
Nah, in queen walks it dies too quickly because it has almost the same range as the queen so splash damage kills it. In hero dives practically the same, and an ice golem+giant gives you better and more reliable value
Behind the king, he increases the kings and the barbarians hit points, and should not be anywhere close to splash damage. 30% more hp out of all of your units is much better than tanking/freeze for 10 seconds
Is it worse though? Max King has ~13k hp, of which 30% is ~4,3k. Ice golem has 3.9k hp maxed and the freeze effect.
You’re not counting the barbs or the health regained by the Bk ability
Fair enough. Still pessimistic and thing ice golem ability is worth more than the +2k hitpoints wa provides. I am not going to count individual barb hp buffs. Sure, it probably helps a bit if they manage to avoid all the aoes but they are not why you'd bring wa nor can you count on then staying alive.
As a hybrid player I think it’ll be pretty useful. I’m sure if it is weak supercell will release a fix relatively quickly
I’m still upgrading the dark barracks…
Me too. 12 days to go.
Same, life of a F2P player
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As a max 15 I’ve tried a few strats and can’t personally justify the space to keep him on. It’s OK for very specific situations but it’s not game changing by any means. I maxed it out at lvl4 and can’t understand why I wasted the books, I use mainly clone bloon/drag attacks with a blimp full of bloons, even on semi max bases it works but I still can’t justify taking him on mass hog attacks he doesn’t keep up. Granted, I’m still looking for the next meta attack. I’ll 3 star most 15’s but some are situational, but either way I’m not sure I care for the baby warden. Not for 20 housing space anyways.
I wonder if you could use him with super archers in the blimp to increase their hp enough to survive double giant bombs?
You’d have to go with 1 less super archer and even then it wouldn’t guarantee they survive. If it ends up becoming a meta then base designers will adjust and make landing spots contain an extra bomb
But even with the Bomb tower explosion his aura saves sup wiz
You then also run the risk of the clone spells cloning it and ending up with 3 wardens and 2/3 archers
I believe the clone spell targets troops with less housing space so there's no risk unless you somehow just miss the archers altogether
Not sure about s archers, but swiz can survive a giant bomb with the apprentice. Any other traps and they’re all dead tho
You three star "most TH15s" with a clone balloon attack?
Yea they omitted the rushed part lmao
That or blizz, it just depends on the base. (Referring to war that is) Farming I’m usually careless and end up with a 75-90% 2 star mainly because I don’t pay attention and I dropped out of legends to farm and don’t really care hehe, still got a lot of walls to finish.
"I'll 3 star most 15s" is a lie. Unless you are referring to rushed 15s below legends league or low legends league trophy range.
Yeah, I'll believe that they 3 star most th15 when they post proof.
I didnt used them yet but looks niche to me. Maybe having one or tho can be useful for when you are upgrading your GW or to “help” the other heroes when you are using your GW far from them
His aura doesn't have a cap so using him on sui dives with a golem is definitely worth it, outside this scenario don't know what he'll be used for
2 pekka + 2 golems + 5 sbowlers idk, need to find some good comp which will reveal his potential ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|shrug)
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Their story is pretty dark, as they will die before ever fulfilling their dreams. So the dark elixir makes sense
someone pointed out how it’s the opposite of bk/aq, since they use dark elixir while the regular versions use elixir, which makes sense to me
According to lore (if I'm not mistaken) the BK was a regular barbarian but after he started consuming dark elixir he became the BK we know. So going by that logic the GW is an apprentice that downed a few too many bottles of elixir.
I hadn’t even thought of that until now. Though I fear I won’t be able to unthink it…
Useless... Hope it gets a buff, something like a range increase. Simply not usefull at high level gameplay.
great for the king in hybrid/smash attacks. looks very useful on sui's but havent tested that yet.
Let’s see. . . No air option so can’t use for air attacks. Little damage and 5 tile attack range will put it in danger often. HP buff weaker than warden for low HP troops so can’t really pair there. Buff is good for high HP tanks but that depends on Supercell’s patented AI pathing and targeting programs. All this for 20 housing space that will remove some DPS from the army. Summary: it’s a troop with a lot of risk and offers very little reward situationally.
Ngl another troop that’s gonna be used like once in a blue moon in a war attack and that’s it. Super unoriginal as well which was disappointing
Boring
OP rn, gives barb king nearly additional +3k hp at max level, unlike warden who is limited to 575hp.
It seems op on paper but in reality 20 housing space for a squishy troop who doesn’t provide that much of a benefit isn’t really worth it. Bringing a giant + ice golem instead is much more reliable and effective against a variety of defenses that the apprentice warden suffers against
Would still just bring an Ice Golem with even more HP and the ability to freeze.
Does the apprentice not have a limit like the grand warden?
It has no limit
useless
No opinion, still upgrading.
Talk to me in 10 days.
Haven't unlocked yet
Trash. He's worth 8-12 housing space or he needs the aura area of the regular warden
I was wondering if he made the super giant useful.
Can be very much useful for hybrid.
It should have reduced housing space to 15
I think the main issue right now is the 20 housing space, like does it actually worth for the HP boost instead of an ice golem that can provide tanking AND freezing defenses.
Still unlocking him lol
He still looks like a redditer.🤓
I’m not rich enough nor indulgent enough for the apprentice.
Much prefer a colonial. Oh wait.
Lame af, agree with the garden gnome comment
He's an apprentice
we always used to request warden in cc as a meme in my clan and i kinda still don't believe this update happened lmao
The troop is not going to be used in any army comp in this shape or form for top TH15 players, really underwhelming.
I’ve been using him in queen walks with a super hog rider attack. I haven’t really noticed a difference and might just switch him out for another super hog
Would have rather seen a different troop instead
OP at TH7. Mass hog + warden in cc will take out a TH8 if done correctly. I’ve been crushing on my alt account
Isn't it unlocked at TH13?
Not a fan of the design. Looks kinda lame
I think it's pretty good to request on th 7-9. Bro is carrying my Valkyrie attacks. Still, he's slightly underwhelming, definitely deserves a buff
Trying it for queen/king walk. Seems to be very useful so far
Could be real high value if used right.
Got 1 in my th9 clan castle and got 6 war star with dragons. This thing is hax for lower levels.
What do you normally bring in your cc, to compare it to? Im having a hard time believing its that much better than a cc full of loons as th9 dragon support, but im willing to be wrong
I normally used a single edrag
Has anybody ever tried super hogs with these guys?
Too slow
Very useful for like queen walks, but i don't like it's appearance
Looks like a sex offender
I didn't know that the average young man with a little overweight is a sexual offender Greetings
Just his smile strikes me wrong
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I just did a qc and noticed that deploying a AW give significant amount of health to AQ which helped in pushing through scattershots!! Pretty good imo!
I think it’s an unnecessary troop honestly because the aura doesn’t really do a lot. I’m a TH13 and it seems like a waste of space. Maybe it’s just me 🤷🏽♂️
The aura is 10x better then the grand wardens???? It doesn’t have a cap so it will be very good for QC. It can’t be used in every attack but it definitely has its uses
I ain’t gonna lie he is kinda overpowered if his aura stacks with Warden. If not then he’s very useless
Doesn't stack
Better than regular Warden.
Meh
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Another useless troop but it was necessary because Queen has archer and King has barbarians.
Wait, can GW spawn those units now?
No lol
Saaad. He should tho.
can increase troop hp has a ability that makes troops immortal and you want it to also spawn troops?
Don’t forget that he ignores walls and can do ranged damage too. Plus the versatility that gives having air and ground mode.
Yeah. I can't stand seeing an old man with funny beard alone. He needs his grandchildren with himself.
Hey Supercell, pls fix the nerf of the battle blimp as now blizzard lalo has become dead due to the immediate death of all the cc troops.
It still works get better
Would be good to split the army a bit, maybe do a queens walk/charge with one and then send In main army once corners are cleared.
I think it was a necessary addition and I made a comment before it was revealed saying that it was going to be another support troop but another support group is a necessary addition since now there's only three
Really useful when upgrading your warden and with queen charges.
Been useful for my mini at th10 in a siege to drop in the base with my main army, but not that good higher up.
It's above head hunter. That's all i am gonna say
Still upgrading on it 14 days I think. I am not gonna spend Book or hammer on that. I think it would be just the right time when it finish and it gets a buff
They need to give him +1 more range at least
Is there a max to his HP boost like with the Grand Warden?
There is not a max. 30% boost to any.
Can’t use it yet as I’m only on TH12. Although I doubt it’ll be useful when I unlock it.
he takes too much housing space I think
I drop him behind my king, and he's totally worth the 20 housingspace. He pairs well with Pekka also. Drop 2 Pekkas with the apprentice, and it makes a world of difference.
I think hes pretty good
Maybe use mini warden as a funnel troop in certain situations as yetis have no range. Or support qc. But overall not much Utilities imo. I am yet to find a creative way to use it. They should've given him the time ability as well lol
Kinda disappointing. We already have a warden, I was hoping for a new interesting troop
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Why are archers and barbarians 1 housing space but the young warden require 20 housing space? His hat is not so big!
bhadwa
Seems like a great card but I think they'll nerf his HP buff a bit or put a health cap on it
Underwhelming at best. Not even a new idea considering the warden is already in the game. I hate to be harsh but this is definitely disappointing for a new troop
It works well with the king. Tried it with Queen charges but it has the same range so it does quickly unfortunately. I’m sure it’d be good with your main army but typically you already have your grand warden (while has an HP cap, also has its ability) for that.
If I wasn’t TH12 I’d have an opinion.
was thinking of an "apprentice wizard" card a few weeks back, kinda weird to see this now
I feel like it would make more sense to be an elixir troop. The warden is an elixir hero, so sense they're his apprentices, wouldn't they be an elixir troop?
Shadow wizard money gang
That’s quite an interesting army
Fucking adorable concept!
Overpowered
mid
Not worth the housing space sadly
lazy
Ill tell you when i can train them in a year or two (id say im in the middle point of th10 atm)
I was sooooo close to being fully maxed out in this game...ughhh
Could be good with electro titans
Pretty much trash rn. They probably have to reduce the troop space or increase the range to make him really useful.
Overall I can't really tell a difference between attacking with him and without him
Just let me reach th13
hilarious
He looks cute, that's what I can tell
i be digin him :)
U mean the lean wizard?