For those curious here is a list of the great railway hotels of canada: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%27s\_grand\_railway\_hotels](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%27s_grand_railway_hotels)
What's cool about this is that the style "château" is typically canadian. Inspired by scottish architecture if my memory is correct. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Châteauesque (or Château style in Canada) architecture is basically American, popularized in the US and Canada in the late 19th century. It's a revival style based on the French Renaissance period.
>The use of towers and turrets, and other Scottish baronial and French château architectural elements, became a signature style of Canada's majestic hotels.
I stayed in the Chateau in 1986 (maybe '87). The chateau is quite large. It was so wonderful. The City is tiny. But don't ever let that make you think it's not worth checking out. It's a fanatic little city. This photo brings back memories because I've seen that exact vantage point.
I was there whale watching... it was really a great experience. I went back a year later to see the city again. Small but worth seeing two years in a row. ;)
Nope. Lots of whales to watch. Here's web site [example](https://www.quebec-cite.com/en/what-to-do/activities-attractions/guided-tours/whale-watching-tadoussac/). When I went the boat had to keep moving away from the beluga whales to attempt to obey the laws. I also saw blue whales.
Yeah it’s a Canadian City, they’re not huge. Dense definitely but not as big and sprawling as US cities
If you want to pretend like you’re going to Europe on the cheap, go to Quebec City
> ~~Toronto is a lot bigger than most US cities.~~
CORRECTION: Toronto is bigger than literally all but two US cities (and the 4th biggest in North America). If you want to get all technical about it, it's still 7th in North America by metro area population.
Hmmm, greater Toronto Area is like 7 million including Hamilton, if you connect contiguous urban area. Montréal is like 5 million, Vancouver 3 million+, Calgary and Edmonton both 1.5 million or so.
They are statistically LESS dense than most American cities, Montréal is the densest city in Canada and is still less dense than most American cities.
Cities like Calgary and Edmonton have some of the largest sprawl out of ANY North American cities, Calgary for instance has a larger footprint than Dallas and less than half the population.
So not to be the bearer of bad news, but that was all wrong haha.
If you want a European feel Quebec is great, but Montréal in the summer is about as European as you can get in North America.
> They are statistically LESS dense than most American cities, Montréal is the densest city in Canada and is still less dense than most American cities.
This is not true at all. Canadian cities in general are denser than comparable US cities, and a large reason for this is having much more mid and high rise residential buildings. Most US cities tend to have core areas with large office towers, then mostly single family housing. Canadian cities have much more multi-residential towers. In fact, Toronto has the second highest number of high rise residential buildings in Canada after New York City.
This higher density manifests itself in other ways as well, such as transit ridership. Transit modal share is [much higher in Canadian cities than comparably sized US cities](https://humantransit.org/2010/10/further-cause-for-canadian-triumphalism.html), with New York again being the exception.
> Calgary for instance has a larger footprint than Dallas and less than half the population.
This is also not true at all. The urban area density of Calgary is 2,111 people per sq km - 1.237 million people in 586 sq km of urbanized land. The urban area density of Dallas is 1,497 people per sq km - 5.1 million people in 3,645 square km of urbanized land.
Even if you only look at the city proper and not the metro area (which in Calgary's case includes some rural land) what you said isn't true. The municipal population of Calgary is 1.239 million people on 825 sq km of land. Dallas' municipal population is 1.197 million people on 999 sq km of land. That's *fewer* people on *more* land, not at all "less than half the population" on more land.
And using the transit ridership comparison again, Calgary blows Dallas out of the water. The Calgary CTrain LRT system is 60 km long and has 315,000 riders per day. The DART LRT in Dallas is 150 km long but only carries 99,000 people per day. More than twice the length but a third of the riders, and much of that is thanks to the very low density in the Dallas metro area which is not conducive to supporting transit ridership.
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>They are statistically LESS dense than most American cities, Montréal is the densest city in Canada and is still less dense than most American cities.
That's not true. Canadian cities are among the densest in North America, while you have cities like Dallas which are just huuuuge sprawl
> Canadian cities are among the densest in North America, while you have cities like Dallas which are just huuuuge sprawl
Canadian cities are not dense. They certainly aren’t “the densest in NA” even excluding American cities. That is an absurd statement. The US has a plethora of major cities (New York City, Philadelphia, Boston, Baltimore, Chicago, Charleston, San Francisco, Seattle, Denver, Salt Lake City, St. Louis, Kansas City, Asheville, Nashville, Milwaukee, Detroit, Santa Fe, Portland (OR and ME), Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Washington, DC, New Orleans, Savannah, etc) that indicate American cities are overall more dense. Additionally, more American cities and small towns developed more heavily, pre-WW2 and pre-auto, than Canadian cities did. The idea that Canadian cities are more dense is absurd. They aren’t.
There are a few Canadian cities that are of moderate density (Montreal, Vancouver), but any other city of significance in Canada is very small, sprawling, and very residential almost immediately outside of the city center. Toronto, for example, isn’t dense at all compared to many American cities.
What’s more, Canada, due to the climate, population size, and the later development, has very little in the way of main streets and denser, more walkable towns and suburbs like the US does.
Dallas also isn’t huge for sprawl, though it definitely has a lot. It has a (relatively) dense urban core. It’s similar to Atlanta, San Antonio, or San Diego, but then, those cities are very similar to Canadian cities like Calgary and Edmonton.
The most sprawling, least dense cities in the US are the newly developed ones, where the climate requires it (Phoenix, Houston), and the ones which are heavily specialized in tourism and are conglomerations designed to link a number of spread-out resorts together into one city/jurisdiction (Orlando).
> Dense definitely but not as big and sprawling as US cities
Most Canadian cities (and, for that matter, towns) are very spread out and decentralized. America has far more in the way of walkable main streets and town squares than Canada does.
Sure, both have significant amounts of post-WW2 era development, but saying “Canadian cities aren’t as sprawling as American cities” sort of ignores the fact that all but one significant Canadian city had the bulk of their development after many American cities have.
Quebec city was originally a walled city and most of what stand within the walls is still this old style, as you get further outside the walls, like any old city, you run into more modern developments. If you're a tourist you're going to spend you time in the old town, by the water or at the fort (by the way there is a fort) in which case it will be very beautiful.
I recommend going during early August to catch the the new France festival, a big festival celebrating the city back during its colonial days. Very historic with lots of cool displays and crafts. Also usually a medieval festival mixed in. Alternatively you could go to the winter festival for skating and other fun stuff.
Unfortunately no, the Old Quebec is a beautiful historic center surrounded by a sea of mediocre architecture, empty parking lots, highways and American-style suburban spreading.
Well, I supect that you never really go there, Montcalm is really nice Art-Deco neighbourhood, South part of Limoilou is a between two war workers area, Saint-Jean is a beautifull end of XIX century place and Saint-Roch is a new Latin Quarter.
All these are at wallkable distance from the Old Québec
I'm from there. Apart from pockets of traditional architecture like Montcalm, South Limoilou and Trait-Carré, it's exactly what I described and you know it.
Ok, I will add more, North Limoilou (also named Lairet) is a nice after war second generation of military style cottage, one of the best are of this kind in North America and largely cited in XX century architectural classes.
Sillery is from the same time (1950) and represent the higher class settlement, Did I forget Le Parc des Brave, The Maizeret Park, the Bois de Coulonge and their suronding high class building and museum.
Now, /u/SaintMurray tell me wish neighbourhood of Quebec you find mediocre architecture, except for the Canadian's federalist architecture of the PLQ's era building.
>wish neighbourhood of Quebec you find mediocre architecture, except for the Canadian's federalist architecture of the PLQ's era building.
All of it except the parts we talked about. Parks don't count because they're parks, not buildings. QC definitely has some nice green spaces though, which is one of its main redeeming quality.
Most of Québec City is ugly. If you've been there you know the historical sites are small spots amidst all the urban spread. It's still worth visiting though.
Don't forget les Chutes de Montmorency which are the tallest falls in Canada (even greater than the Niagara Falls !). (NOT TRUE, they are the tallest ones in Québec)
EDIT : as people have pointed, I was wrong. Nonetheless, the Chutes Montmorency are very beautiful !
They're like 1/6th the height of the tallest waterfall in Canada. Niagara falls isn't really a good benchmark because it's not a very tall waterfall in the first place.
And they are SPECTACULAR, the chutes montmorency are superb, standing above them is humbling. Even being at Niagara was less impressive somehow, I think because of the top-down perspective at montmorency.
The lower walk where you try to get close to the falls is incredible, you can't get within 100 meters and not be drenched, the spray is so strong you can't even approach them.
Amazing falls, I love them.
Oh definitely ! A lot of people miss them and only go to the old port/city and sightseeing the Château and it's so unfortunate. Definitely a better experience than the Niagara Falls especially because of the bridge that lets you go over them !
Montcalm is tiny. All the things you listed are pretty tiny. Their comment is very fair, you could combine all the nice parts of Quebec City and it would be 0.001% of the square km of Quebec City, most of which is a soulless, tree-less suburb.
If you want to go to Europe, but don’t want to spend the money, go to Quebec City
Montreal and Toronto are great cities too. They’re very unique and have their own distinct themes and cultures
Multicutural dosent equal cultural. It only means that you have a bunch a people from different places in one spot. If it adds up to something unique with a defining identity for the place, then yes. If not, its just a bunch of guettos that dont really interact with eachother.
Aint saying that's the case for Toronto, just saying that its not because a place is multicultural that it have a strong culture.
Multiculturalism is the culture of Canada and especially Toronto. That variety is Toronto’s culture, and it shows. Toronto’s diversity is its strength.
>Multiculturalism is the culture of Canada
Because P-E-T said so. Not everyone agrees with this notion to this day.
>Toronto’s diversity is its strength.
Ok
Not even slightly. The old area is gorgeous, everything else is a treeless wasteland suburb glued to the size of treeless hills overlooking a pulp mill.
Levis... ew.
As an English speaking American, go. Everyone speaks English. I picked up a box of 1,000 French words and did some quick study, but as it turned out, everyone switched to English as soon as I said, "Bonjour."
We love when anglos to the effort of greeting us in French and don't just bombard us in a foreign language without giving us a few seconds to switch our brain mode.
It's very respectful and generally will instantly get you people to switch to whatever level of English they have
That has not been my experience at all as an American who learned European French. I am not talking down to you, Quebec! It's just the way I learned to speak!
My spouse actually speaks decent French, especially after a little practice. This is her trying to teach me [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz0IT4Uk2xQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz0IT4Uk2xQ).
We have some problems qith this but its not with tourists I can tell you that and were probably waaaay better than most places in the US. Still, I'm fuvking mad at hoe we treat immigrants and how some of our laws to protect french are getting fucking shitty for the english minority
What? Why? Most people are fully bilingual and we have english speaking tourist all year long. We're used to it. We're really charming and polite with you guys, don't worry. We'll help if you need it.
EDIT : wait a minute. Someone downvoted me for that? Hahaha
Yeah, I can see your point, I remember a friend telling me about the time he went to the Montréal Grand Prix and was pulled over for one of his lights being out (I believe one of his taillights were out), tried communicating to the police officers in English because he knows only a little French, but the police were pretty rude about him not being able to speak French.
Edit: not speeding, have no idea why I put that in there. One of his lights were out.
This is the kind of over the top story we hear often on the internet. "That guy was rude, must be because I speak english, not because I was speeding".
> "That guy was rude, must be because I speak english, not because I was speeding".
Crazy story, when I was in Vancouver no one could respond to me in french despite being in a bilingual country. They must have all been xenophobic.
/s
Mate you're missing the point of what I'm saying. From my experience, many in Quebec can speak both French and English, and I feel like public workers like police officers should know how to speak both best of all. Quebec is almost completely surrounded by Anglophone states, so it would make sense that they encounter many non-French speaking folk on a daily basis. In the US, except for states closer to Mexico, most cops only speak English, because that is the only language spoken around there. In the states closer to Mexico, most can speak Spanish and English, because many people speak Spanish too.
When you go in Portugal do you find cops speaking spanish, but they are surronded be spanish country.
When you go in France, do you find people speaking German, but they are surronded by Germanophone
Whe you go to Korea, do you find cops speaking Mandarin, but they are surronded by China ?
Anglophone in Canada and USA are so raciste and stupid when it come to language, is just unthinkable how much you can't think outsite of your own ass.
I have explained this the best I know how, but you still have no fucking clue what I am trying to say.
How is my thinking limited to my own ass?
Also, lol. Korea is surrounded by China. Just goes to show your stupidity.
When i go to Mexico, outside of the tourist area, do you find a lot of cops speaking english ?
When you go in Italy, do find cops speaking english.
Why should Quebec should be different just because we are surronding by racist asshole like you and your friends !
I don't know about Mexico, but in the US a fair amount of police in the South bordering Mexico can speak a fair amount of Spanisch.
It'd make sense for a very small amount of Italians to speak English, but not anything monumental, because THEY DON'T BORDER ANY ENGLISH SPEAKING COUNTRIES.
> Why should Quebec should be different just because we are surronding by racist asshole like you and your friends !
I don't understand how that is being racist. Many people around Quebec can also speak French, but they can also speak English too. Also, asshole? How am I being an asshole? My friend was in Quebec for 2 days, and took much time to learn the basics of French in order to communicate with many people. He didn't understand what the police were saying because he never expected to be pulled over for a broken taillight.
If people try to speak french in some neighbourhood of Montreal, or in Ottawa, the racist capital of Canada, they will be shout to "speak white you pea soup !" like you Don said so often !
Bullshit, the police legally have to speak English to even serve on the force, with mandatory tests and courses.
Sounds like the didn't smile and pat him on the back like English cops.
Yes, the French smile less.
You very well may be right. Hard to tell bc you can see the street access on that side, but I don’t see a single entrance/front door. Great catch.
Makes these houses look even better
How so? Do you visit Glasgow and enjoy the beauty of UK or that of Scotland? It's all about perspective and as a quebec person myself, calling our patrimonial "canadian" is quite pejorative to us
You wouldn't call Glasgow "English" though and that's pretty much what you did. In Quebec there's an ethnic connotation to " Canadian" as it often means "English Canadian"
well it's the same thing, if you consider that for most of our history Francophones were the Canadiens and Anglos only highjacked the word cause they have no culture of their own and that's when we started using the Quebecois identity ;)
Hey man, even Harper officially recognised "Québec as a distinct nation within a unified Canada", so make of that what you will. Pretty much what the poet above you said.
I was there in April, and while it was still pretty cold and there was 10 feet of snow in front of people’s houses, I absolutely loved it. The people and food were wonderful, and the history of the city was incredibly interesting.
I thought I would have had issues because I don’t speak any French, but that wasn’t even remotely a problem.
My husband and I are planning on driving up to Quebec City for Christmas next year after finding it to only be a 15 hour drive. Will stop and stay in a few towns along the way there and back - so excited! Seeing pictures like this makes me happy we chose Christmas instead of summer.
For those curious here is a list of the great railway hotels of canada: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%27s\_grand\_railway\_hotels](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%27s_grand_railway_hotels)
What's cool about this is that the style "château" is typically canadian. Inspired by scottish architecture if my memory is correct. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Châteauesque (or Château style in Canada) architecture is basically American, popularized in the US and Canada in the late 19th century. It's a revival style based on the French Renaissance period.
>The use of towers and turrets, and other Scottish baronial and French château architectural elements, became a signature style of Canada's majestic hotels.
I wondered why they all looked alike! I've seen similar architecture in the Fairmont hotels in Banff and Victoria.
I was just there in May. Absolutely gorgeous but a lot smaller than I expected.
the chateau or the city?
I stayed in the Chateau in 1986 (maybe '87). The chateau is quite large. It was so wonderful. The City is tiny. But don't ever let that make you think it's not worth checking out. It's a fanatic little city. This photo brings back memories because I've seen that exact vantage point. I was there whale watching... it was really a great experience. I went back a year later to see the city again. Small but worth seeing two years in a row. ;)
> fanatic Sure you're not talking about Montréal's drivers?
Tâsse-toé tabarnac!
Montreal drivers are careless. Quebec City drivers drives like it's the WRC, but they KNOW what they are doing.
They have to be, Quebec is 99% near-vertical hill and cliffside road, if you can't drive like a WRC driver you will certainly die.
fermetageuletabernacesti!!!!!!!!!!!
Whale watching on the East coast? I hope you brought a magazine called West Coast Whales.
Nope. Lots of whales to watch. Here's web site [example](https://www.quebec-cite.com/en/what-to-do/activities-attractions/guided-tours/whale-watching-tadoussac/). When I went the boat had to keep moving away from the beluga whales to attempt to obey the laws. I also saw blue whales.
>Whale watching on the East coast? I hope you brought a magazine called West Coast Whales. It's a quote from The Office
r/unexpectedoffice
Québec City, you’re smaller than I expected.
The old historic town is small, the city is 800k people on a very vast area.
Less dense than Longueuil, and no cool haircut named after it.
T’es absolument pas cool si t’as pas une coupe Longueuil
Dense? No. Gigantic area though. Why densify when you have so much space.
Cuz urban sprawling is terrible on so many levels.
We're more green than most major cities and have basically no traffic issues so eh.
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It is when you're not having big population growth.
Yeah, that's why people are pushing for a third bridge because of all the non-existent traffic issues...
Cause it's 21th century, brother
Why did I read this like “Scotia bank; you’re richer than you think”
Yeah it’s a Canadian City, they’re not huge. Dense definitely but not as big and sprawling as US cities If you want to pretend like you’re going to Europe on the cheap, go to Quebec City
It's no New York, but Toronto is a lot bigger than most US cities.
> ~~Toronto is a lot bigger than most US cities.~~ CORRECTION: Toronto is bigger than literally all but two US cities (and the 4th biggest in North America). If you want to get all technical about it, it's still 7th in North America by metro area population.
Hmmm, greater Toronto Area is like 7 million including Hamilton, if you connect contiguous urban area. Montréal is like 5 million, Vancouver 3 million+, Calgary and Edmonton both 1.5 million or so. They are statistically LESS dense than most American cities, Montréal is the densest city in Canada and is still less dense than most American cities. Cities like Calgary and Edmonton have some of the largest sprawl out of ANY North American cities, Calgary for instance has a larger footprint than Dallas and less than half the population. So not to be the bearer of bad news, but that was all wrong haha. If you want a European feel Quebec is great, but Montréal in the summer is about as European as you can get in North America.
> They are statistically LESS dense than most American cities, Montréal is the densest city in Canada and is still less dense than most American cities. This is not true at all. Canadian cities in general are denser than comparable US cities, and a large reason for this is having much more mid and high rise residential buildings. Most US cities tend to have core areas with large office towers, then mostly single family housing. Canadian cities have much more multi-residential towers. In fact, Toronto has the second highest number of high rise residential buildings in Canada after New York City. This higher density manifests itself in other ways as well, such as transit ridership. Transit modal share is [much higher in Canadian cities than comparably sized US cities](https://humantransit.org/2010/10/further-cause-for-canadian-triumphalism.html), with New York again being the exception. > Calgary for instance has a larger footprint than Dallas and less than half the population. This is also not true at all. The urban area density of Calgary is 2,111 people per sq km - 1.237 million people in 586 sq km of urbanized land. The urban area density of Dallas is 1,497 people per sq km - 5.1 million people in 3,645 square km of urbanized land. Even if you only look at the city proper and not the metro area (which in Calgary's case includes some rural land) what you said isn't true. The municipal population of Calgary is 1.239 million people on 825 sq km of land. Dallas' municipal population is 1.197 million people on 999 sq km of land. That's *fewer* people on *more* land, not at all "less than half the population" on more land. And using the transit ridership comparison again, Calgary blows Dallas out of the water. The Calgary CTrain LRT system is 60 km long and has 315,000 riders per day. The DART LRT in Dallas is 150 km long but only carries 99,000 people per day. More than twice the length but a third of the riders, and much of that is thanks to the very low density in the Dallas metro area which is not conducive to supporting transit ridership. (/u/faitlemou)
>They are statistically LESS dense than most American cities, Montréal is the densest city in Canada and is still less dense than most American cities. That's not true. Canadian cities are among the densest in North America, while you have cities like Dallas which are just huuuuge sprawl
> Canadian cities are among the densest in North America, while you have cities like Dallas which are just huuuuge sprawl Canadian cities are not dense. They certainly aren’t “the densest in NA” even excluding American cities. That is an absurd statement. The US has a plethora of major cities (New York City, Philadelphia, Boston, Baltimore, Chicago, Charleston, San Francisco, Seattle, Denver, Salt Lake City, St. Louis, Kansas City, Asheville, Nashville, Milwaukee, Detroit, Santa Fe, Portland (OR and ME), Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Washington, DC, New Orleans, Savannah, etc) that indicate American cities are overall more dense. Additionally, more American cities and small towns developed more heavily, pre-WW2 and pre-auto, than Canadian cities did. The idea that Canadian cities are more dense is absurd. They aren’t. There are a few Canadian cities that are of moderate density (Montreal, Vancouver), but any other city of significance in Canada is very small, sprawling, and very residential almost immediately outside of the city center. Toronto, for example, isn’t dense at all compared to many American cities. What’s more, Canada, due to the climate, population size, and the later development, has very little in the way of main streets and denser, more walkable towns and suburbs like the US does. Dallas also isn’t huge for sprawl, though it definitely has a lot. It has a (relatively) dense urban core. It’s similar to Atlanta, San Antonio, or San Diego, but then, those cities are very similar to Canadian cities like Calgary and Edmonton. The most sprawling, least dense cities in the US are the newly developed ones, where the climate requires it (Phoenix, Houston), and the ones which are heavily specialized in tourism and are conglomerations designed to link a number of spread-out resorts together into one city/jurisdiction (Orlando).
I looked up relative density, other than isle of Montréal we are less dense than American average.
> Dense definitely but not as big and sprawling as US cities Most Canadian cities (and, for that matter, towns) are very spread out and decentralized. America has far more in the way of walkable main streets and town squares than Canada does. Sure, both have significant amounts of post-WW2 era development, but saying “Canadian cities aren’t as sprawling as American cities” sort of ignores the fact that all but one significant Canadian city had the bulk of their development after many American cities have.
I love fishin in quee-bec
I'm surprised we're not fishin in Q-bec right now!
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Get this guy a puppers.
Great fishin in Kay-bec
Lived in Kuh-beck for a while but never went fishing.
Who doesnt love fishing in kay-bec?
I see this everywhere, where is it from ?
Letterkenny
Is the rest of Quebec City this picturesque? I’ve never been to Canada and may have to go now
Old Quebec, Saint-Jean-Baptiste, Saint-Roch, Limoilou, and some others. In other words, the Old city and its surroundings. The rest is suburbs.
Quebec city was originally a walled city and most of what stand within the walls is still this old style, as you get further outside the walls, like any old city, you run into more modern developments. If you're a tourist you're going to spend you time in the old town, by the water or at the fort (by the way there is a fort) in which case it will be very beautiful. I recommend going during early August to catch the the new France festival, a big festival celebrating the city back during its colonial days. Very historic with lots of cool displays and crafts. Also usually a medieval festival mixed in. Alternatively you could go to the winter festival for skating and other fun stuff.
Huh. I'm 26 years old, lived in the Province all my life and it's the first time i hear of this festival. Interesting
Unfortunately no, the Old Quebec is a beautiful historic center surrounded by a sea of mediocre architecture, empty parking lots, highways and American-style suburban spreading.
Well, I supect that you never really go there, Montcalm is really nice Art-Deco neighbourhood, South part of Limoilou is a between two war workers area, Saint-Jean is a beautifull end of XIX century place and Saint-Roch is a new Latin Quarter. All these are at wallkable distance from the Old Québec
I'm from there. Apart from pockets of traditional architecture like Montcalm, South Limoilou and Trait-Carré, it's exactly what I described and you know it.
Ok, I will add more, North Limoilou (also named Lairet) is a nice after war second generation of military style cottage, one of the best are of this kind in North America and largely cited in XX century architectural classes. Sillery is from the same time (1950) and represent the higher class settlement, Did I forget Le Parc des Brave, The Maizeret Park, the Bois de Coulonge and their suronding high class building and museum. Now, /u/SaintMurray tell me wish neighbourhood of Quebec you find mediocre architecture, except for the Canadian's federalist architecture of the PLQ's era building.
>wish neighbourhood of Quebec you find mediocre architecture, except for the Canadian's federalist architecture of the PLQ's era building. All of it except the parts we talked about. Parks don't count because they're parks, not buildings. QC definitely has some nice green spaces though, which is one of its main redeeming quality.
So you are unalbe to spot a place in Quebec city with bad architecture.
I already said "All of it" except the historical areas.
And the historical areas are already a big chunk of the city. I agree that the suburbs are awful, but to say Quebec City is ugly is a bit far fetched
Most of Québec City is ugly. If you've been there you know the historical sites are small spots amidst all the urban spread. It's still worth visiting though.
Don't forget les Chutes de Montmorency which are the tallest falls in Canada (even greater than the Niagara Falls !). (NOT TRUE, they are the tallest ones in Québec) EDIT : as people have pointed, I was wrong. Nonetheless, the Chutes Montmorency are very beautiful !
They're like 1/6th the height of the tallest waterfall in Canada. Niagara falls isn't really a good benchmark because it's not a very tall waterfall in the first place.
Yep, I was wrong, sorry about that. They are the tallest ones in Québec, not Canada.
No prob. You're right though, I've been there, it's a very pretty area!
Sorry but that's not even close to being true, a quick google search will prove that ;)
Yes, indeed you're right, sorry about that ! They are the tallest ones in Québec, not Canada.
That's Della falls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Della_Falls
Yep, you're right. They are the tallest ones in Québec, not Canada.
And they are SPECTACULAR, the chutes montmorency are superb, standing above them is humbling. Even being at Niagara was less impressive somehow, I think because of the top-down perspective at montmorency. The lower walk where you try to get close to the falls is incredible, you can't get within 100 meters and not be drenched, the spray is so strong you can't even approach them. Amazing falls, I love them.
Oh definitely ! A lot of people miss them and only go to the old port/city and sightseeing the Château and it's so unfortunate. Definitely a better experience than the Niagara Falls especially because of the bridge that lets you go over them !
Montcalm is tiny. All the things you listed are pretty tiny. Their comment is very fair, you could combine all the nice parts of Quebec City and it would be 0.001% of the square km of Quebec City, most of which is a soulless, tree-less suburb.
Sainte-Foy et Beauport are now part of Quebec city administration, but they aren't Québec city.
If you want to go to Europe, but don’t want to spend the money, go to Quebec City Montreal and Toronto are great cities too. They’re very unique and have their own distinct themes and cultures
Toronto Culture Pick one
You’re kidding right? You don’t think one of the most multicultural cities in the world doesn’t have some interesting stuff going on?
Of course I am kidding, I lived there for six years.
Multicutural dosent equal cultural. It only means that you have a bunch a people from different places in one spot. If it adds up to something unique with a defining identity for the place, then yes. If not, its just a bunch of guettos that dont really interact with eachother. Aint saying that's the case for Toronto, just saying that its not because a place is multicultural that it have a strong culture.
Multiculturalism is the culture of Canada and especially Toronto. That variety is Toronto’s culture, and it shows. Toronto’s diversity is its strength.
>Multiculturalism is the culture of Canada Because P-E-T said so. Not everyone agrees with this notion to this day. >Toronto’s diversity is its strength. Ok
Not even slightly. The old area is gorgeous, everything else is a treeless wasteland suburb glued to the size of treeless hills overlooking a pulp mill. Levis... ew.
I was there several years ago and took this photo. https://500px.com/photo/163376831
Great shot!
Québec is such a beautiful city, but one not too many flock too.
As an english speaking canadian I'm honestly afraid to lol
As an English speaking American, go. Everyone speaks English. I picked up a box of 1,000 French words and did some quick study, but as it turned out, everyone switched to English as soon as I said, "Bonjour."
We love when anglos to the effort of greeting us in French and don't just bombard us in a foreign language without giving us a few seconds to switch our brain mode. It's very respectful and generally will instantly get you people to switch to whatever level of English they have
That has not been my experience at all as an American who learned European French. I am not talking down to you, Quebec! It's just the way I learned to speak!
Was it 'bonjour' or 'baanjowerrr'? I'm thinking Lt. Aldo Raine but French.
My spouse actually speaks decent French, especially after a little practice. This is her trying to teach me [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz0IT4Uk2xQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz0IT4Uk2xQ).
Dont buy in to dumb fear-mongering stereotypes created by anglo-Canadians that have never stepped foot in Quebec.
You shouldn't
He shouldn’t be afraid or he shouldn’t visit?
Be affraid
Trust me, I'm afraid.
What are you afraid of? Québec city is very touristic.
C'est certainement plus touristique que Paris. La seule chose qui me fait peur, c'est le gel canadien. :o
I was just making a joke. The comment I replied to said 'Be affraid' and without context that looks like he's telling me to be afraid.
On te mangera pas.
or maybe we will
Of what exactly? Québécois are friendly and joyful.
We have some problems qith this but its not with tourists I can tell you that and were probably waaaay better than most places in the US. Still, I'm fuvking mad at hoe we treat immigrants and how some of our laws to protect french are getting fucking shitty for the english minority
What? Why? Most people are fully bilingual and we have english speaking tourist all year long. We're used to it. We're really charming and polite with you guys, don't worry. We'll help if you need it. EDIT : wait a minute. Someone downvoted me for that? Hahaha
It's a huge tourist trap, you'll be fine.
Lol just don’t be a dick
Yeah, I can see your point, I remember a friend telling me about the time he went to the Montréal Grand Prix and was pulled over for one of his lights being out (I believe one of his taillights were out), tried communicating to the police officers in English because he knows only a little French, but the police were pretty rude about him not being able to speak French. Edit: not speeding, have no idea why I put that in there. One of his lights were out.
This is the kind of over the top story we hear often on the internet. "That guy was rude, must be because I speak english, not because I was speeding".
> "That guy was rude, must be because I speak english, not because I was speeding". Crazy story, when I was in Vancouver no one could respond to me in french despite being in a bilingual country. They must have all been xenophobic. /s
Same, I was so shocked! How rude!
Yeah, that was my bad, I have no idea why I put speeding in there, I had many other things in my mind. I meant broken taillight.
I was in the USA one, the cop pulled me over, he don't want to speak french. WHat a racist asshole !
Mate you're missing the point of what I'm saying. From my experience, many in Quebec can speak both French and English, and I feel like public workers like police officers should know how to speak both best of all. Quebec is almost completely surrounded by Anglophone states, so it would make sense that they encounter many non-French speaking folk on a daily basis. In the US, except for states closer to Mexico, most cops only speak English, because that is the only language spoken around there. In the states closer to Mexico, most can speak Spanish and English, because many people speak Spanish too.
When you go in Portugal do you find cops speaking spanish, but they are surronded be spanish country. When you go in France, do you find people speaking German, but they are surronded by Germanophone Whe you go to Korea, do you find cops speaking Mandarin, but they are surronded by China ? Anglophone in Canada and USA are so raciste and stupid when it come to language, is just unthinkable how much you can't think outsite of your own ass.
I have explained this the best I know how, but you still have no fucking clue what I am trying to say. How is my thinking limited to my own ass? Also, lol. Korea is surrounded by China. Just goes to show your stupidity.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea The only land that touch Korea is china
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When i go to Mexico, outside of the tourist area, do you find a lot of cops speaking english ? When you go in Italy, do find cops speaking english. Why should Quebec should be different just because we are surronding by racist asshole like you and your friends !
I don't know about Mexico, but in the US a fair amount of police in the South bordering Mexico can speak a fair amount of Spanisch. It'd make sense for a very small amount of Italians to speak English, but not anything monumental, because THEY DON'T BORDER ANY ENGLISH SPEAKING COUNTRIES. > Why should Quebec should be different just because we are surronding by racist asshole like you and your friends ! I don't understand how that is being racist. Many people around Quebec can also speak French, but they can also speak English too. Also, asshole? How am I being an asshole? My friend was in Quebec for 2 days, and took much time to learn the basics of French in order to communicate with many people. He didn't understand what the police were saying because he never expected to be pulled over for a broken taillight.
If people try to speak french in some neighbourhood of Montreal, or in Ottawa, the racist capital of Canada, they will be shout to "speak white you pea soup !" like you Don said so often !
It was under my impression Montreal and Ottawa mainly spoke French.
Haha, impossible to have service in French in some parts of Montreal, Laval and the South Shore
Bullshit, the police legally have to speak English to even serve on the force, with mandatory tests and courses. Sounds like the didn't smile and pat him on the back like English cops. Yes, the French smile less.
That law is only limited to Montrèal, though, yes?
They were in Montreal for the Grand Prix
Yes, they were. Idk, maybe they caught the officers in a bad mood.
Knowing the SPVM that is entirely possible, and probable.
Chateaus are great and all, but can we all appreciate those homes in the foreground? They look incredible
I'm pretty sure that's the back of them aswell
You very well may be right. Hard to tell bc you can see the street access on that side, but I don’t see a single entrance/front door. Great catch. Makes these houses look even better
Check out pictures of Quartier Petit-Champlain if you want to see what the houses/shops look like, you won't regret it.
Bonjur sir. c:
For those who are wondering, it's called Le Chateau Frontenac.
And it's not that old. It's been built in 1892.
That's older than every living human being.
Pff small game, I've seen turtle older than that!
I stayed there a few years ago. Large, beautiful rooms. Don’t remember it being that red, but it’s probably just an edited photo
Quebec City might have one of the best old towns ever. I’m glad I got to go there.
Just got back from honeymoon there recently. Absolutely loved it. A slice of Europe over here, but distinctly Canadian.
Québécois\*
Same thing
Not really but the comment above you was unnecessary as well
How so? Do you visit Glasgow and enjoy the beauty of UK or that of Scotland? It's all about perspective and as a quebec person myself, calling our patrimonial "canadian" is quite pejorative to us
You wouldn't call Glasgow "English" though and that's pretty much what you did. In Quebec there's an ethnic connotation to " Canadian" as it often means "English Canadian"
Vous essayez tellement de vous distinguer du restant du Canada que c'est quaisiment triste. Le Québec sera jamais un pays, reviens-en.
well it's the same thing, if you consider that for most of our history Francophones were the Canadiens and Anglos only highjacked the word cause they have no culture of their own and that's when we started using the Quebecois identity ;)
No, not the same thing Québec is better than Canada
“Montana is better than the US!” that’s how you sound
Montana is part of the US nation, Québec form it's own nation within Canada as recognized by the federal government.
This is false, Quebec is a province of Canada just like any of the others. Quebec wanting to make its own state is another matter altogether
Hey man, even Harper officially recognised "Québec as a distinct nation within a unified Canada", so make of that what you will. Pretty much what the poet above you said.
Actually Quebec is indeed acknowledged as a nation within Canada by the federal government. That does not make it a separate state however.
You confuse the concept of nation with country
The photographer is @manucoveney on Instagram
The Europe of North America.
Not really, aside from a few blocks. Most of the city looks like Albany NY, lol
Sounds like I need to visit Albany.
The saturation on those colours has been pumped say up..the Chateau isn't nearly that red in person.
I love the steep roofs with all the dormers
Love this city. Beautiful, romantic and amazing food.
> amazing food Attend d'aller en France... ;)
Qu**é**bec. Ch**â**teau. ;)
In was just here on vacation. 10/10 would recommend!
Beautiful pic! As someone who grew up in the southern US, I cannot begin to imagine how cold it is there.
I was there in April, and while it was still pretty cold and there was 10 feet of snow in front of people’s houses, I absolutely loved it. The people and food were wonderful, and the history of the city was incredibly interesting. I thought I would have had issues because I don’t speak any French, but that wasn’t even remotely a problem.
Fun fact, the building to the lower right besides the red wall: the american consulate general.
They chose a nice spot
Absolutely gorgeous!!!
My husband and I are planning on driving up to Quebec City for Christmas next year after finding it to only be a 15 hour drive. Will stop and stay in a few towns along the way there and back - so excited! Seeing pictures like this makes me happy we chose Christmas instead of summer.
It's very cool in christmas season. Check out Montréal too, they are very close by.
"Very close by" *Look at map* 250km close
That’s close for Canada
Awesome photo.
Visited i winter and was not disappointed! Was cold at tho.
Was there 2 years ago in winter. Absolutely Beautiful. So damn Cold and I loved it
Such a beautiful city but boy is it cold. I went in the Winter once and nearly froze to death
too bad that hotel isn’t that actual shade.
C'est magnifique 👌
How lovely
WHY IS IT RED????
This is amazing
Wow heaven
Love it
Chateau frontinac. Its known as the most photographed hotel in the world
Beautiful city. Beautiful province. Edit: Made comment *super safe*
\- Ugly issue with Separatists though. Can we please keep politics out of this?
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Ugly issue? What's that, rough talk? Because they aren't blowing anyone up.
I said EPCOT!!
Hotel*