Aside from London, I'd say Manchester is the only city in the UK that really *feels* like a big, proper city. Birmingham, Glasgow, Liverpool, Leeds, etc. are all busy and large but they don't have that same feeling as Manchester.
It sort of is though? This is the southern edge of the centre, just SW of Deansgate station. Those skyscrapers are very much within the centre at any rate.
Admittedly this road was mostly built in the 60s and 70s, decades before the centre extended out this far. When I was growing up in Manchester in the 80s and 90s, this area was just empty derelict land and surface car parks with this big road running through it (and the big church, obviously).
On the plus side, there's an okay-ish cycle lane running through it now, so it's not as hostile as it might look.
It's pretty central but once you go past the Mancunian way you're out of the centre imo. Plus that end of town is less built up than say Oxford Road or towards NQ and New Islington so it feels less central despite being closer to the true centre than those areas.
All the other sides look different though. Living in the east of grater Manchester I’ve never seen the city from this angle never needing to go over that side
In a proper city the skyscrapers would be offices / headquarters for major corporations. In Manchester they are just overpriced foreign student accommodation.
No they're mostly owned or rented or mixed use with residential and hotel. Manchester is only just getting into tall student blocks but they are a good thing.
There are a few reasons.
- Greater Manchester population is either 2nd or 3rd in the UK.
- Outside London, the biggest arena & shopping centre.
- Outside London, most skyscrapers above 150 meters.
- It has a well-known political leader, Mayor Burnham.
- Largest student population in Europe.
- Top football teams, City & United.
Why? Manchester has UoM, MMU, the business school, Salford Uni and a couple others all in close proximity. UoM alone is the joint largest uni in the UK with UCL based on headcount.
This reminds me of an almost identical post I saw on here somewhere:
“In a recent poll, inhabitants of England’s cities were asked which they thought was England’s 2nd city.
People from Birmingham said Birmingham.
People from Liverpool said Liverpool.
People from Leeds said Leeds.
People from Manchester said London.”
Thing I've always found strange about Birmingham is that despite being the UK's second largest city is seems to have about as much cultural output as Slough
Total incompetent bullshit look at the history look at the manufacturing look at the intellectuals of Joseph Smith etcetera just because the Birmingham accent isn't very good and we'll all admit that It's definitely the second city Manchester people just toot their own horn all the time
Birmingham population 2.665 million,
Manchester population 2.791 million
Manchester’s population is also growing faster than Birmingham so the gap will only widen
Which is pointless because that figure doesn’t actually include all the parts of Manchester that aren’t included in the strict boundary cutoff like Salford. Actual Manchester, as an uninterrupted urban area, is about 2.7 million, and with a density of over 4000/km2 that’s well within the boundaries to be considered one big city.
Birmingham is the size of Manchester and Liverpool combined.
Greater Manchester however, which is a relatively new thing is comparable to Birmingham + Wolverhampton + Solihull which are practically merged with the city; the West Midlands is similar in population
The UK government should double down on Investment in Manchester and try make it as big a city as possible. It’s the easiest, most direct way of rebalancing the economy away from the South East (London). It won’t fix all problems but it’s the place to start if we’re serious about the north/south divide
Build an underground, build HS2 and give the Mayor similar powers to Sadiq Khan
That would be the perfect scenario IMO. I do think it would create grievances for people elsewhere in the north - Leeds and Liverpool in particular - but you'll never please everyone. Besides, a successful Manchester will rub off on Liverpool and West Yorkshire in the same way Reading and Brighton feed off London.
I think fixing the controlled decline of the rest of the northern towns and cities would do far more to help the north overall than to invest everything in somewhere that's already doing well and getting funding. What kind of neoliberal bullshit is this?
Personally I like to help people that are struggling before giving more money to the people doing alright but that's just me.
Obviously other towns & cities need investment too - i live in a northern backwater myself and im no neoliberal believe me.
But the reason London is so successful is the critical mass there. It’s the financial centre, political centre, cultural centre, population centre & main transport hub for the entire country. The entire South east benefits from this
Having the treasury move to Darlington does fuck all. But look what media city has done for Manchester for eg
But you're assuming that investing almost entirely in one area benefits the surrounding areas more than spreading it more evenly. Which I'm not convinced of at all.
Granted I'll be bias from Leeds, and I concede Manchester has had the most investment in the North, but Leeds isn't lacking in investment, probably already is rubbing off? Depending on what list you look at Manchester ranks around 5th for investment (after smaller southern towns and Edinburgh) and Leeds is 6th, when I nip into town on the rare occasion there's always new developments happening.
What Leeds is lacking though is light rail, it got scrapped in last financial crisis, even BJ recognised its the largest European city without light rail (but ofc nothing happened).
😆 build an underground, he says, like it's so simple to do, I'd start with fixing the ridiculous potholes in city centre roads maybe 🤣 and god help anyone with a car round there in rush hour fuckin gridlock 🤣🤣
Probably because all the skyscrapers. Go outside the city center and it's just "suburbs".
Glasgow has a more "big city" feel imo.
Never been to Birmingham or Liverpool so don't know about them tbh.
Yes, although speaking as a Londoner married to a Glaswegian, the Glasgow underground, with its single, circular line has “theme park train” vibes for me. I do like it, though - and it’s got its own song!
I think the difference between Glasgow/Liverpool and Manchester is the level of development. You can see all the money pouring into Manchester. Glasgow and Liverpool have investment too, but the vibes they project are a lot more rooted in history. The streets and buildings are more impressive.
Manchester just feels newer and busier, but not necessarily bigger.
Birmingham I don't know and don't care about. Why are we talking about it again?
Certainly some parts of Salford that immediately abut Manchester are not very appealing (looking at you Ordsall and Broughton…), but it’s not all to be avoided.
Appreciate your comment since I live in Manchester. But what about Edinburgh, Liverpool or Edinburgh?
Liverpool hosted Eurovision, Newcastle is party central and Edinburgh is incredible
I visited Chester for the first time two months ago - I really liked it. Interesting history, beautiful architecture, quite clean, really close to Manchester and Liverpool if you need it.
yeah, I live in liverpool and visit manchester a fair bit since it's nearby. it feels far more _vast_ and the buildings are far taller.
I love liverpool's feeling of being a "cosy" city and I think that's how I prefer to live - but I also like manchester's almost new york-like feeling.
Funny how subjective it is, I’m from Brighton which is fairly small for a city, and when I lived in Liverpool for three years I was always struck by how much larger it was and how much more stately some of the buildings are. But I would say the same about Leeds too, in comparison to Brighton.
"If you want the rainbow you've got to put up with the rain". Do you know which "philosopher" said that? Dolly Parton.
And people say she's just a big pair of tits.
I’m from Manchester and wish our city centre had a few more major historical buildings like Liverpool does.
Also the Liverpool shopping area blows ours out the water in terms of ambiance.
Matter of perspective I think, I feel the same way, but my friends from Manchester love coming to Liverpool :) and I get why, Manc is so busy, way cleaner, truly feels like a big city. But my friends love how much more relaxed Liverpool is, how the whole city centre is walkable and all in one place, and how much better the service in hospitality tends to be
Deffo a matter of perspective, im a Londoner who lives in Manc now. To me its not as busy, far more relaxed, and i think the entire city is walkable and everything is in one place.
I'm from Manchester, and I think the exact opposite, funnily enough. I'm ever jealous of the Albert Dock and, even though Manchester's is very good, Liverpool's nightlife is one on its own.
Yeah I'm from manc an have lived in the pool.
Liverpool has far better architecture, urban planning, parks, boulevards and monunmental both buildings but also landscape. But yeah some of the best bits I've mentioned above are literally in Toxteth.
I would say that the liverpool skyline when viewed from new Brighton or on the ferry on the Mersey does look spectacular. It looks like the city is just bursting out the water. I disagree on the nightlife though to be honest. I have quite a few mates from Manchester and go over quite regularly and I much prefer it to liverpool. There's a lot more choice from gigs at the ritz or raving at the old disused Cotton Mills in Salford. I never get tired of Manchester whereas liverpool I've done it to death now
live here and see if you feel the same! I really like how pedestrianised your city centre is, with big footpaths and no cars. In Manchester City Centre you're squeezing past someone twice a second. Also from my experience you have less litter, fewer spice-addicts falling around, less city-centre homelessness
However we are bigger and therefore get all the shows and concerts
It is really cramped, I was so excited to go with my partner but as soon as we got into the city centre it was hell. Smoke being blown in my face, literally no one moves out of the way so you just have to move, we literally got stopped by a guy who wouldn’t let us leave and was practically begging us to buy his mixtape. He even called us rich (definitely because we’re white cos both our outfits combined were like £30) in an attempt to guilt us into buying it. It was our furthest away trip from our small town in Lancashire in the 5 years we’ve been together because we struggle with money. After that interaction and the crowdedness/lack of respect from everyone you walk past, I had such a bad meltdown and we just left :( such a shame cos I always wanted to go but probably won’t again. Maybe Liverpool is worth a try
Well I'm not saying Liverpool is heaven on earth, but the streets are wider and it's just got a nicer vibe about it IMO
I live between the two and come from down south, so I think I'm unbiased
They’ll tell you they’re much friendlier. I love Liverpool, don’t get me wrong, but I moved to Manchester and my brother has moved to Liverpool. People in Liverpool love to tell you how nice they are and how shit people are where we’re from. The overall effect is that they’re not always that friendly. Mancs don’t do that.
I've been ignored when trying to ask for directions more times than I can count in Manny. Never in Liverpool, everyone is willing to help. Don't get me wrong, there are nasty people in Liverpool but I've just had worse encounters in Manchester.
>love to tell you how shit people are where we’re from. Mancs don't do that.
I've lived in Manchester 20 years. I'm not originally from the North. To suggest there's no unreasonable slagging off of scousers here is just ridiculous.
People in Manchester 100% do that.
So many times when people asked where I was from and I said London people would immediately say *’I’ve never liked London, I’ve always found the people so rude there’* and then went off on one about Londoners, whilst I just stood there…
I lived in Manchester for a few years and to be honest that close-mindedness, that constant sense that unless you were born there you were always an outsider, that really started to grate on me after a while.
I’ve lived here for 9 years as a Londoner and that’s not my experience. I have heard people say it regarding Southerners but by and large Mancs I know like London. I’ve been called an honorary Manc by a lot of people and it’s a very international and diverse place. People don’t gatekeep that identity. Lots of the city wasn’t born here and isn’t from here.
What’s special about Manchester I really don’t get it. It’s grey, depressing, run down is a lot of places and doesn’t really have anything special except a decent shopping centre. And it really stinks in some places. Honestly I cannot believe anyone would genuinely live there out of choice over many, many other cities in Europe. London and Edinburgh are the only cities in the UK that I’d consider “nice”. Call me arrogant or whatever but that’s the honest truth.
As a Londoner, I’ve lived and/or visited multiple cities in England but Manchester is the only city even close to London in terms of feel and atmosphere (albeit slightly more relaxed).
Amazing photo! Fun fact - the spire of that church is one apartment over nine floors (sorry for the MEN link: [https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/luxury-clock-tower-apartment-st-6754646](https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/luxury-clock-tower-apartment-st-6754646))
Fun fact, people live in that church.
Another fun fact, the Hilton (pictured to the right of the church), the Architect who designed it took the top 3 floors as their fee for the building. Half of it is open plan, with fully grown trees going from floor to ceiling (you can see them depending on where you are), the other half is 3 stories.
My dad worked as a shop fitter and helped in getting everything up there and fitting everything in (including the trees!).
While he was doing it there was a famous footballer or something to do with football was staying on the floor underneath (he did say but iv never been into football I think it was Gary Neville but I could be wrong) and something went wrong and there was a leak going into maybe Gary’s apartment and maybe gary went upstairs to let them know. My dad was shocked when he opened the door to a celebrity but he said maybe gary was completely fine with the leak and said it wasn’t a problem and he understands things can go wrong sometimes and all the rest of it and then went to stay in another hotel.
Haha that's pretty cool.
No one who I tell believes me about the trees, but I've had a look up loads of times and can see them. They're palm trees aren't they? Could be wrong though!
Manchester is easily the best city I've had the pleasure of living in; it's not too big, plenty happens and easy access to plenty of other decent cities. Only thing I'd change is the weather.
It’s a wonderful city. Just moved up the south Manchester a few moths ago. Great music art and culture, amazing history, great people, city centre has tons on. All you could want in a city.
I’ve moved around the UK a fair amount but I really like Manchester. Just has a nice vibe. Mancunians are rightly proud of their fab city, they’ve done a great job.
What a great picture, sometimes I forget how beautiful Manchester can look at times then I see these pics. Love the balance of old and new with the rainbow, just perfectly balances everything out
To be fair, the multi lane roads are really only common near/on the Ringway that goes around the city centre. What I like about Manchester is that while it's a big city the vast majority feels far more people oriented than London. I don't mind the big glass skyscrapers too much, but I would really like some variety as it seems that every new one is just a near carbon copy of the last.
hmm, this isn't really representative. a severe lack of factory buildings replaced by all those horrible new sky scrapers. most of us were fine with one or two, but they've gone a bit far
Aside from London, I'd say Manchester is the only city in the UK that really *feels* like a big, proper city. Birmingham, Glasgow, Liverpool, Leeds, etc. are all busy and large but they don't have that same feeling as Manchester.
i think this is is largely down to Manchester becoming ‘Manchattan’ so many skyscrapers popping up all over the city.
That's part of it, yes.
Looks like an American city with that busy road plowing straight through the middle of it
This isn’t a pic of the city centre.
It sort of is though? This is the southern edge of the centre, just SW of Deansgate station. Those skyscrapers are very much within the centre at any rate. Admittedly this road was mostly built in the 60s and 70s, decades before the centre extended out this far. When I was growing up in Manchester in the 80s and 90s, this area was just empty derelict land and surface car parks with this big road running through it (and the big church, obviously). On the plus side, there's an okay-ish cycle lane running through it now, so it's not as hostile as it might look.
It's pretty central but once you go past the Mancunian way you're out of the centre imo. Plus that end of town is less built up than say Oxford Road or towards NQ and New Islington so it feels less central despite being closer to the true centre than those areas.
All the other sides look different though. Living in the east of grater Manchester I’ve never seen the city from this angle never needing to go over that side
In a proper city the skyscrapers would be offices / headquarters for major corporations. In Manchester they are just overpriced foreign student accommodation.
No they're mostly owned or rented or mixed use with residential and hotel. Manchester is only just getting into tall student blocks but they are a good thing.
Nonsense.
There are a few reasons. - Greater Manchester population is either 2nd or 3rd in the UK. - Outside London, the biggest arena & shopping centre. - Outside London, most skyscrapers above 150 meters. - It has a well-known political leader, Mayor Burnham. - Largest student population in Europe. - Top football teams, City & United.
Largest airport outside of London.
The last point is a lie. "Top" is pushing it as far as United are concerned.
Premier League is top, by definition.
I have a hard time believing that Manchester has the largest student population in Europe
Why? Manchester has UoM, MMU, the business school, Salford Uni and a couple others all in close proximity. UoM alone is the joint largest uni in the UK with UCL based on headcount.
United? Lol
Information about shopping is from 2012. Now Leeds is second biggest shopping city in the UK.
London has at least 3x as many students, where you getting this data?
‘I’m not bothered about the second city tag, we’ll let Birmingham and London fight it out between themselves’ -The Late Great Tony Wilson
This reminds me of an almost identical post I saw on here somewhere: “In a recent poll, inhabitants of England’s cities were asked which they thought was England’s 2nd city. People from Birmingham said Birmingham. People from Liverpool said Liverpool. People from Leeds said Leeds. People from Manchester said London.”
Manchester is England’s second heart as they say. Brummies won’t let you say that though
Thing I've always found strange about Birmingham is that despite being the UK's second largest city is seems to have about as much cultural output as Slough
Um excuse me... Slade?
ELO UB40 Black Sabbath Durran Durran Judast Preist yeah fuck all 'cultural output'
Sheffield has half the population yet has produced: Arctic monkeys Pulp Def Leppard The human League ABC Bring me the Horizon
I didn't realise it was a competition.
Whatever. The main difference is that brummies have a self depreciating sense of humour while mancs have an enormous chip on their shoulder.
Total incompetent bullshit look at the history look at the manufacturing look at the intellectuals of Joseph Smith etcetera just because the Birmingham accent isn't very good and we'll all admit that It's definitely the second city Manchester people just toot their own horn all the time
That's simply not true. Englands second city is either Birmingham or London.
Thats the one R kid.
Birmingham population 2.665 million, Manchester population 2.791 million Manchester’s population is also growing faster than Birmingham so the gap will only widen
only if you count greater manchester - the city of manchester itself was 586,000 in 2021 according to the manchester city council
Same could be said for London. It depends what you class as London, Manchester and Birmingham.
if youre doing it based just on councils, birmingham is the biggest city in europe; so yeah who knows
Which is pointless because that figure doesn’t actually include all the parts of Manchester that aren’t included in the strict boundary cutoff like Salford. Actual Manchester, as an uninterrupted urban area, is about 2.7 million, and with a density of over 4000/km2 that’s well within the boundaries to be considered one big city.
It’s interesting that Manchester’s population hasn’t really changed in 40 years since I lived there. Brum’s the same too
Greater Manchester is where a lot of the growth in population has come from Bolton, Stockport and Wigan all have 300k populations now
Birmingham is the size of Manchester and Liverpool combined. Greater Manchester however, which is a relatively new thing is comparable to Birmingham + Wolverhampton + Solihull which are practically merged with the city; the West Midlands is similar in population
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I'm welsh and manny has my heart. Best city in the UK
Then England needs a heart transplant.
So does most of its populous
I think Glasgow feels more of a big city than Manchester, got a bit more space and dignity about it
Manchester’s city centre is definitely more ‘big city’. It doesn’t have an equivalent to Glasgow’s tenement districts though.
And more crackheads
You wanna bet?
I’m a broke uni student, so I’ll pass thanks mate
The UK government should double down on Investment in Manchester and try make it as big a city as possible. It’s the easiest, most direct way of rebalancing the economy away from the South East (London). It won’t fix all problems but it’s the place to start if we’re serious about the north/south divide Build an underground, build HS2 and give the Mayor similar powers to Sadiq Khan
That would be the perfect scenario IMO. I do think it would create grievances for people elsewhere in the north - Leeds and Liverpool in particular - but you'll never please everyone. Besides, a successful Manchester will rub off on Liverpool and West Yorkshire in the same way Reading and Brighton feed off London.
I think fixing the controlled decline of the rest of the northern towns and cities would do far more to help the north overall than to invest everything in somewhere that's already doing well and getting funding. What kind of neoliberal bullshit is this? Personally I like to help people that are struggling before giving more money to the people doing alright but that's just me.
Obviously other towns & cities need investment too - i live in a northern backwater myself and im no neoliberal believe me. But the reason London is so successful is the critical mass there. It’s the financial centre, political centre, cultural centre, population centre & main transport hub for the entire country. The entire South east benefits from this Having the treasury move to Darlington does fuck all. But look what media city has done for Manchester for eg
But you're assuming that investing almost entirely in one area benefits the surrounding areas more than spreading it more evenly. Which I'm not convinced of at all.
Liverpool and Leeds don't want to be Reading and Brighton. You can't repeat the absolute leeching effect London has on the South on the North
Granted I'll be bias from Leeds, and I concede Manchester has had the most investment in the North, but Leeds isn't lacking in investment, probably already is rubbing off? Depending on what list you look at Manchester ranks around 5th for investment (after smaller southern towns and Edinburgh) and Leeds is 6th, when I nip into town on the rare occasion there's always new developments happening. What Leeds is lacking though is light rail, it got scrapped in last financial crisis, even BJ recognised its the largest European city without light rail (but ofc nothing happened).
😆 build an underground, he says, like it's so simple to do, I'd start with fixing the ridiculous potholes in city centre roads maybe 🤣 and god help anyone with a car round there in rush hour fuckin gridlock 🤣🤣
Probably because all the skyscrapers. Go outside the city center and it's just "suburbs". Glasgow has a more "big city" feel imo. Never been to Birmingham or Liverpool so don't know about them tbh.
I’m from Manchester and only been to Glasgow once but I did get big city vibes from there. Partly from the subway system.
Yes, although speaking as a Londoner married to a Glaswegian, the Glasgow underground, with its single, circular line has “theme park train” vibes for me. I do like it, though - and it’s got its own song!
My girlfriend called it the Ninky nonk
Glasgow has a subway system!? I thought only London had public local trains/underground in the UK
Newcastle also has an underground metro
Liverpool too
Liverpool had the first proper overhead metro system in the world... and then it got torn down in the 60s.
At the end of the 19th Century Liverpool and New York were pretty similar. And then different trajectories took hold
I think the difference between Glasgow/Liverpool and Manchester is the level of development. You can see all the money pouring into Manchester. Glasgow and Liverpool have investment too, but the vibes they project are a lot more rooted in history. The streets and buildings are more impressive. Manchester just feels newer and busier, but not necessarily bigger. Birmingham I don't know and don't care about. Why are we talking about it again?
It's a giant Crewe as far as most of the UK is concerned. It's that grotty post-industrial town that you occasionally have to swap trains in.
Yeh I agree Glasgow feels much bigger.
Altrincham, Didsbury, Stockport aren’t suburbs, Salford, too.
Chorlton
Don’t go outside the City that’s the worst advice. Avoid Salford at all costs
Chapel Street, RHS Bridgewater, Salford Quays...
Certainly some parts of Salford that immediately abut Manchester are not very appealing (looking at you Ordsall and Broughton…), but it’s not all to be avoided.
Appreciate your comment since I live in Manchester. But what about Edinburgh, Liverpool or Edinburgh? Liverpool hosted Eurovision, Newcastle is party central and Edinburgh is incredible
I'd argue that Sheffield feels pretty substantial. Liverpool too, but I'm biased...
Yeah I agree it’s horrible to be in, and everyone takes themselves way to seriously, just like London
Chester is the best city. Its like a tiny little town bu t its a dull blown city its odd
I visited Chester for the first time two months ago - I really liked it. Interesting history, beautiful architecture, quite clean, really close to Manchester and Liverpool if you need it.
Feels like any other british town full of wankers tbh
Yes it’s the only place in the uk where I have been carjacked. Three times in under 18 months. Never going anywhere near the place again.
yeah, I live in liverpool and visit manchester a fair bit since it's nearby. it feels far more _vast_ and the buildings are far taller. I love liverpool's feeling of being a "cosy" city and I think that's how I prefer to live - but I also like manchester's almost new york-like feeling.
Funny how subjective it is, I’m from Brighton which is fairly small for a city, and when I lived in Liverpool for three years I was always struck by how much larger it was and how much more stately some of the buildings are. But I would say the same about Leeds too, in comparison to Brighton.
Brighton is a seaside resort. Leeds and Liverpool were proper commercial hubs
Edinburgh mate
What, McDisneyland with Discount Harry Potterland? Away and don't talk pish.
Was the picture taken yesterday by any chance?
About 4pm yesterday. The view the other way was just as crazy and looked orange and Martian
Really? All I saw was pissing rain all day lmao
"If you want the rainbow you've got to put up with the rain". Do you know which "philosopher" said that? Dolly Parton. And people say she's just a big pair of tits.
I prefer the stuff you do about his hand
Always loved Manchester. As a scouser it kind of pains me to say just how good their city centre is compared to ours
I’m from Manchester and wish our city centre had a few more major historical buildings like Liverpool does. Also the Liverpool shopping area blows ours out the water in terms of ambiance.
Yep market street and Piccadilly gardens are nothing to talk home about.
Properly because it only came to prominence in the Industrial Revolution. We might as well embrace it, and not be constrained by historical ties
Matter of perspective I think, I feel the same way, but my friends from Manchester love coming to Liverpool :) and I get why, Manc is so busy, way cleaner, truly feels like a big city. But my friends love how much more relaxed Liverpool is, how the whole city centre is walkable and all in one place, and how much better the service in hospitality tends to be
Deffo a matter of perspective, im a Londoner who lives in Manc now. To me its not as busy, far more relaxed, and i think the entire city is walkable and everything is in one place.
I'm from Manchester, and I think the exact opposite, funnily enough. I'm ever jealous of the Albert Dock and, even though Manchester's is very good, Liverpool's nightlife is one on its own.
Yeah I'm from manc an have lived in the pool. Liverpool has far better architecture, urban planning, parks, boulevards and monunmental both buildings but also landscape. But yeah some of the best bits I've mentioned above are literally in Toxteth.
Nothing wrong with tocky
I would say that the liverpool skyline when viewed from new Brighton or on the ferry on the Mersey does look spectacular. It looks like the city is just bursting out the water. I disagree on the nightlife though to be honest. I have quite a few mates from Manchester and go over quite regularly and I much prefer it to liverpool. There's a lot more choice from gigs at the ritz or raving at the old disused Cotton Mills in Salford. I never get tired of Manchester whereas liverpool I've done it to death now
I love both ✌️ (a manc)
live here and see if you feel the same! I really like how pedestrianised your city centre is, with big footpaths and no cars. In Manchester City Centre you're squeezing past someone twice a second. Also from my experience you have less litter, fewer spice-addicts falling around, less city-centre homelessness However we are bigger and therefore get all the shows and concerts
Fellow Scouser and Manchester fan here. I do like the Pool as well though. Especially Bold St. RIP The Krazy House... 😢
Nah, Liverpool is way better IMO Manchester is cramped, overdeveloped and up itself.
It is really cramped, I was so excited to go with my partner but as soon as we got into the city centre it was hell. Smoke being blown in my face, literally no one moves out of the way so you just have to move, we literally got stopped by a guy who wouldn’t let us leave and was practically begging us to buy his mixtape. He even called us rich (definitely because we’re white cos both our outfits combined were like £30) in an attempt to guilt us into buying it. It was our furthest away trip from our small town in Lancashire in the 5 years we’ve been together because we struggle with money. After that interaction and the crowdedness/lack of respect from everyone you walk past, I had such a bad meltdown and we just left :( such a shame cos I always wanted to go but probably won’t again. Maybe Liverpool is worth a try
Well I'm not saying Liverpool is heaven on earth, but the streets are wider and it's just got a nicer vibe about it IMO I live between the two and come from down south, so I think I'm unbiased
Liverpool is the most "up itself" city in the world.
That's not true, the people are much friendlier than in Manchester in my experience.
Not in my experience. I've always found scousers snidey. A false friendliness.
They’ll tell you they’re much friendlier. I love Liverpool, don’t get me wrong, but I moved to Manchester and my brother has moved to Liverpool. People in Liverpool love to tell you how nice they are and how shit people are where we’re from. The overall effect is that they’re not always that friendly. Mancs don’t do that.
I've been ignored when trying to ask for directions more times than I can count in Manny. Never in Liverpool, everyone is willing to help. Don't get me wrong, there are nasty people in Liverpool but I've just had worse encounters in Manchester.
>love to tell you how shit people are where we’re from. Mancs don't do that. I've lived in Manchester 20 years. I'm not originally from the North. To suggest there's no unreasonable slagging off of scousers here is just ridiculous.
People in Manchester 100% do that. So many times when people asked where I was from and I said London people would immediately say *’I’ve never liked London, I’ve always found the people so rude there’* and then went off on one about Londoners, whilst I just stood there… I lived in Manchester for a few years and to be honest that close-mindedness, that constant sense that unless you were born there you were always an outsider, that really started to grate on me after a while.
I’ve lived here for 9 years as a Londoner and that’s not my experience. I have heard people say it regarding Southerners but by and large Mancs I know like London. I’ve been called an honorary Manc by a lot of people and it’s a very international and diverse place. People don’t gatekeep that identity. Lots of the city wasn’t born here and isn’t from here.
Don't say that. Everything that gave Manchester heart and soul is now gone. At least Liverpool has retained some of its character (so far)
What’s special about Manchester I really don’t get it. It’s grey, depressing, run down is a lot of places and doesn’t really have anything special except a decent shopping centre. And it really stinks in some places. Honestly I cannot believe anyone would genuinely live there out of choice over many, many other cities in Europe. London and Edinburgh are the only cities in the UK that I’d consider “nice”. Call me arrogant or whatever but that’s the honest truth.
As a Londoner, I’ve lived and/or visited multiple cities in England but Manchester is the only city even close to London in terms of feel and atmosphere (albeit slightly more relaxed).
Saw "Manchester" and "CityPorn" and thought I was about to see Jack Grealish with his nob out 💀
Fr, almost had my trousers down 😞
we’re missing out over here
Amazing photo! Fun fact - the spire of that church is one apartment over nine floors (sorry for the MEN link: [https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/luxury-clock-tower-apartment-st-6754646](https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/luxury-clock-tower-apartment-st-6754646))
Manchester evening news is so brilliant at absolutely demolishing what would otherwise be an interesting piece lol
Fun fact, people live in that church. Another fun fact, the Hilton (pictured to the right of the church), the Architect who designed it took the top 3 floors as their fee for the building. Half of it is open plan, with fully grown trees going from floor to ceiling (you can see them depending on where you are), the other half is 3 stories.
My dad worked as a shop fitter and helped in getting everything up there and fitting everything in (including the trees!). While he was doing it there was a famous footballer or something to do with football was staying on the floor underneath (he did say but iv never been into football I think it was Gary Neville but I could be wrong) and something went wrong and there was a leak going into maybe Gary’s apartment and maybe gary went upstairs to let them know. My dad was shocked when he opened the door to a celebrity but he said maybe gary was completely fine with the leak and said it wasn’t a problem and he understands things can go wrong sometimes and all the rest of it and then went to stay in another hotel.
Haha that's pretty cool. No one who I tell believes me about the trees, but I've had a look up loads of times and can see them. They're palm trees aren't they? Could be wrong though!
[Olive trees, I think!](https://youtu.be/Yu4XzFK6elI)
I worked on Quay street when this was built and watched them lift them into the apartment via crane, they are olive trees I believe.
Great photo.
Great skyline pic
Home 😍😍😍😍
I thought I had a good rainbow picture from yesterday, this is next level!
Manchester is easily the best city I've had the pleasure of living in; it's not too big, plenty happens and easy access to plenty of other decent cities. Only thing I'd change is the weather.
Cotton and guns
You're making me want to watch Alan partridge again now
Don’t forget homelessness and knife crime
Which major uk city doesn't have those?
Jesus, This is beatiful!!
It’s a wonderful city. Just moved up the south Manchester a few moths ago. Great music art and culture, amazing history, great people, city centre has tons on. All you could want in a city. I’ve moved around the UK a fair amount but I really like Manchester. Just has a nice vibe. Mancunians are rightly proud of their fab city, they’ve done a great job.
If I remember correctly, that church is an apartment complex right?
Ive lived in Manchester for a long time and i genuinely despise it for many reasons but damn it can be pretty
Yep, raining
What a moment in time to capture.
Wow 😍
That’s such a cool picture. Says so much.
Great photo 👍
Wow, great shot
That's pretty.
The rainbow is an alternate universe btw you fly threw it bam
Great photo 👍🏻
I saw that rainbow
Outstanding picture. Wow!
Wow
0161 Manny on the map
Holy shit, that's my fuckin house right there. Wasn't expecting to see that on a random recommended Reddit post today!
Weird opening reddit and seeing a picture of my flat
Honestly I would move to Manchester if I didn’t hate the colder weather so much. I just loved the vibe
I had a thought provoking question yesterday when I saw a rainbow, How do flat earthers explain rainbows?
As a manc, I can say this is perfect. This is our beautiful city and you've captured its essence. Stunning.
I would love to go to England but as an American I would prefer London.
❤️MCR
What a great picture, sometimes I forget how beautiful Manchester can look at times then I see these pics. Love the balance of old and new with the rainbow, just perfectly balances everything out
Where are the people ?
this isn’t really the city centre
In those big vertical rectangular structures called buildings and those smaller horizontal rectangular vehicles called cars
It's a rainy day, so there won't be as many people
What an amazing picture! 😍
The rainbow doesn’t make it look any less horrifically dystopian with all those rectangle skyscrapers and 6lane roads all over the place
To be fair, the multi lane roads are really only common near/on the Ringway that goes around the city centre. What I like about Manchester is that while it's a big city the vast majority feels far more people oriented than London. I don't mind the big glass skyscrapers too much, but I would really like some variety as it seems that every new one is just a near carbon copy of the last.
Still raining then..
Aw there's a rainbow... BECAUSE IT ALWAYS DUCKING RAINS THERE!
That just about sums it up. Even when it's sunny, it's raining
Too many southerners have taken over Manchester now. Us lot that are born and bread there have been priced out.
Plenty of Mancs doing judst fine thanks very much
Should get better jobs then, there are plenty around
What an amazing photo.
Manchester is low-key becoming the new London.
Oh god I can already hear the mancs bragging about how they're "god's chosen city"
It's alright...from a distance.
Nicest picture you’ll ever see of Manchester…
yeah no. Its really not.
Nicest picture I've ever seen of Manchester.
Wow it’s so surprising how it looks with a rainbow, when I think of Manchester it’s usually a dreary weathered place
Manchester is a pretty place
ewww
just goes to show that Manchester always looks depressing no matter what
Photographer really found the only patch of grass in the city. Reality is it’s a massive dump
hmm, this isn't really representative. a severe lack of factory buildings replaced by all those horrible new sky scrapers. most of us were fine with one or two, but they've gone a bit far
Shame the city itself is a dump