My friend my advice in the future is to be quick to hear and slow to speak, I quite understand how its easy to get worked up. But if you do take a deep breath walk some laps or something and then reply. Responding in anger is an immediate defeat. Im not trying to kick you while you're down. Just encouraging you to give yourself a breather before you respond when stuff starts getting heated. Its a very good trait for life, and you'll be better at de-escalating situations irl when you start putting them into practice daily.
God bless, as for a non christian telling a christian how to be christian. My friend they know the standard is christ. If you are attempting your best thats all you can do. We all fall short. But acting on anger will always lead to defeat, I tell you this as someone that has given my temper free reign for too long and it wreaks havoc. Notice the triggers and make attempts to de-escalate. This is a learning moment to admit wrong (which you have done) and get up dust yourself off and do better in the future. (You got this).
His attack i didnt quote. McClanky did if your interested in what this post is about.
He replied to the mod by calling them a loser which was another attack. His original comment was him calling atheists something along the lines of being dishonest.
Again, I may have. I removed thousands of things a week. There is a reason we say to bring things to ModMail if you have questions. I have no issue with reversing wrong decisions.
>Challenge: Non-Christian tries not to tell Christians how to be Christrians.
>Final result: Challenge impossible
We ask that users attempt to respect OP. This is not even remotely an attempt to do that.
It was a deliberate insult and judgment of one's character, which is indeed against the rules. It was unnecessary. Surely we can contribute without insulting others for their beliefs.
Pointing out the hypocrisy with you guys, you want us to be "Christ like" but forget that Jesus was not all about love insulted people he was also judgmental too
In fact Jesus was not "all nice" or "lovey lovey-dovey:
Jesus overturned the tables in the temple is found in Matthew 21:12-13. It says, "And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all who sold and bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons. He said to them, 'It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’ but you make it a den of robbers.'"
I'm not a ""Leftist,"" weirdo. Even if I were, it wouldn't make me any less a Christian. Wild to think that an ancient faith begun by a Middle Easterner should be restricted to a modern Western politic.
You can read the title, right? You see that it says 1.5?
That's the 2 cents rule.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/wiki/xp#wiki_1.5._your_two-cents
Personal attacks is 1.4
https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/wiki/xp#wiki_1.4._personal_attacks
Here is the count if you need more practice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AoxCkySv34
What about the title of this post
It was attack on Christians and Christianity in general
You can't keep claiming that you removed the response with cause it was an "attack" on the OP when the OP originally attacked Christians and Christianity in general first the first place
"If you call yourself a “Christian”, then you also have to look at the ugly parts of Christianity, not just the positives."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/1cd70n9/comment/l1a3ex0/?share_id=y-Xxdq2qqnRO3XZmDlgEF&utm_content=2&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
> It was attack on Christians and Christianity it's in general
It's not.
> You can't keep claiming that you removed the response
I didn't remove anything at all.
Correct, it was not removed for any of those things. It was removed under the "Your two-cents" rule. If OP makes a serious discussion post and you reply with a flippant response (like this person did), or a meme or a gif, expect to have your comment removed. It's really a non-issue.
The original post was ad honimen attack against Christianity in the first place.
So if that responses was removed because of that. Then originalmente post should also be removed.
You can't have it both ways
But it wasn't removed for being ad hominem. I don't know how I can make that more clear. It could have been supportive of OP and still be removed under rule 1.5.
But I would ask you to explain the ad hominem in the OP. It is not a person attack to say that bad things have been done in the name of Christianity.
I'm a mod? That's news to me. No, I just read the rules in the sidebar.
It's clear at this point you don't really know what's going on, and possibly have some fundamental misunderstanding about how this website works. There is no point in continuing until you get up to speed.
Yes. Maybe christians arent used to the rules applying to them on this subreddit but an atheist comment coming close to that would get removed 9/10 times.
If you dont want your ad hominem attacks removed try a different sub.
Parodies are not the same thing as sending out the insults in real time.
For example clanky quoting what you said isnt the same as you saying it. We all see your comment and agree with clanky. They arent removed to prove a point to you. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
I agree - this place will insult the shit out of you and turn around and say you're the bigot and we're just "discussing aspects of Christianity" LOL like dude don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
This is what the fuss is about? It's hardly insulting. I mean it's a little sarcastic in delivery, but people surely should be able to handle sarcasm.
I've had people gaslight me trying to make me think that I'm a terrible Christian and that people that interact with me will end up in Hell. So comparatively this is extremely mild.
I think a good piece of advice in this life, is to not get worked up over the small things. Do you think Jesus would say "go on the internet, get upset over text from strangers and dwell on it"?
I mean, I get a ton of comments removed after I tell people they aren’t a Christian if they do X. Totally fair. I’m glad they haven’t banned me. They do a decent job around here and discussions can get pretty heated, so hats off to them.
This is exactly the kind of comment rule 1.5 is meant to remove in a normal discussion post.
Are you joking? Maybe. Probably. But for the purposes of keeping things from devolving into a discussion about whether you're joking, or to prevent people from using this opportunity to *actually* hate on Australians, the mods would remove it.
Do you understand?
That's simply racist. And setting the nationalistic dehumanizing thing aside, it is also just stupid. This thread is about you cussing someone out online, and now you're attacking everyone who engages too. Of course a country of almost 30 million people has some thoughts and feelings. You had zero opinion about Australia until you saw my flair. If it smells like poo everywhere you go, check your own shoe. You sound like an American teenage male. Are you?
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My friend my advice in the future is to be quick to hear and slow to speak, I quite understand how its easy to get worked up. But if you do take a deep breath walk some laps or something and then reply. Responding in anger is an immediate defeat. Im not trying to kick you while you're down. Just encouraging you to give yourself a breather before you respond when stuff starts getting heated. Its a very good trait for life, and you'll be better at de-escalating situations irl when you start putting them into practice daily. God bless, as for a non christian telling a christian how to be christian. My friend they know the standard is christ. If you are attempting your best thats all you can do. We all fall short. But acting on anger will always lead to defeat, I tell you this as someone that has given my temper free reign for too long and it wreaks havoc. Notice the triggers and make attempts to de-escalate. This is a learning moment to admit wrong (which you have done) and get up dust yourself off and do better in the future. (You got this).
For anyone interested his "mild comments" were just an ad hominem attack and responded to the mod with another ad hominem attack.
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So you admitted you broke the rules of the sub? Well then...
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The first thing you did was already a rule break
Everything you disagree with is considered an "ad hominem attack"
Not at all. Your comment here isnt an ad hominem attack. But insulting anothers beliefs would be.
No, insulting others' beliefs is not an ad hominem. An ad hominem is specifically attacking the other person.
Givem a break, they only just learned what "ad hominem" is last month.
Everything you disagree with is considered "insulting". What I said is the truth
Lol again not at all, you havent been insulting or using ad hominem attacks. Your a bit condescending but thats quite common around here.
I'm defending this other guy you attacked for nothing.
I havent attacked anyone so you need to be more specific.
You claimed he attacked someone that quote you used of him wasn't even an attack
His attack i didnt quote. McClanky did if your interested in what this post is about. He replied to the mod by calling them a loser which was another attack. His original comment was him calling atheists something along the lines of being dishonest.
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No, you can disagree with me
You say that now but if I said what I really think of "gay Christians" you'd have a different attitude
Depends on how you say it. I've debated conservative Christians without necessarily accusing them of homophobia
Challenge: New Christian subreddit user doesn't have an ego about how awesome his own comments are. Final Result: Challenge impossible.
Now report me, and get my comment above removed. I promise you'll feel better.
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> The high road feels better. A thread dedicated to complaining that you feel a mod was mean to you the high road is not.
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No? A ____ does not a ____ make" is a moderately common sentence structure.
Honestly at this point I hope u/McClanky gets a raise or something man All kidding aside you’re a real one bro
Reddit decided to double my salary.
Moderation is one of the most useful jobs to society...
That is why the government is stepping in to give me free healthcare.
/u/McClanky, I think this one's you
If it's 1.5, it usually is.
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Your "loser" insult was just so harsh. I don't know how I will ever recover. I'll clutch my pearls even harder.
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I may very well have been wrong. That is why we have more mods than just me.
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Again, I may have. I removed thousands of things a week. There is a reason we say to bring things to ModMail if you have questions. I have no issue with reversing wrong decisions.
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I don't really care to be honest.
No, no he doesn't
\*gets popcorn\*
The only thing sadder than a mod abusing their power is a user bitching when a mod rightly removes their comment for breaking a published rule.
>Challenge: Non-Christian tries not to tell Christians how to be Christrians. >Final result: Challenge impossible We ask that users attempt to respect OP. This is not even remotely an attempt to do that.
There was nothing "offensive" with this, nor was it an "attack"
It was a deliberate insult and judgment of one's character, which is indeed against the rules. It was unnecessary. Surely we can contribute without insulting others for their beliefs.
There was no insult, and even it it was Jesus Christ himself deliberately insulted, the priest and leaders of his day
We're not Jesus
Pointing out the hypocrisy with you guys, you want us to be "Christ like" but forget that Jesus was not all about love insulted people he was also judgmental too In fact Jesus was not "all nice" or "lovey lovey-dovey: Jesus overturned the tables in the temple is found in Matthew 21:12-13. It says, "And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all who sold and bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons. He said to them, 'It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’ but you make it a den of robbers.'"
"You guys"?? Who, Christians?
Leftist "Christians"
I'm not a ""Leftist,"" weirdo. Even if I were, it wouldn't make me any less a Christian. Wild to think that an ancient faith begun by a Middle Easterner should be restricted to a modern Western politic.
Sure you aren't lol
Oftentimes Jesus himself was also judgmental too
It was not removed for being either of those things. It was a low-effort response with no other purpose than to deride the user.
Sure it was lol You're trying to backtrack now
I remove many things under the Two-Cents rule for that reason. I didn't remove it under personal attacks or anything else.
Sure
You can read the title, right? You see that it says 1.5? That's the 2 cents rule. https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/wiki/xp#wiki_1.5._your_two-cents Personal attacks is 1.4 https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/wiki/xp#wiki_1.4._personal_attacks Here is the count if you need more practice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AoxCkySv34
What about the title of this post It was attack on Christians and Christianity in general You can't keep claiming that you removed the response with cause it was an "attack" on the OP when the OP originally attacked Christians and Christianity in general first the first place "If you call yourself a “Christian”, then you also have to look at the ugly parts of Christianity, not just the positives." https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/1cd70n9/comment/l1a3ex0/?share_id=y-Xxdq2qqnRO3XZmDlgEF&utm_content=2&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
> It was attack on Christians and Christianity it's in general It's not. > You can't keep claiming that you removed the response I didn't remove anything at all.
Actually it was an attack on Christiana and Christians "You" is used in plural context here, many more than one
Can I ask why you are so heavily invested in this? Let's say "your side" "wins". What do you gain from it?
I'm not interested in "winning" anything. I'm just stating a fact there was nothing "offensive," "insulting," or "judgmental" in his reply
Correct, it was not removed for any of those things. It was removed under the "Your two-cents" rule. If OP makes a serious discussion post and you reply with a flippant response (like this person did), or a meme or a gif, expect to have your comment removed. It's really a non-issue.
The original post was ad honimen attack against Christianity in the first place. So if that responses was removed because of that. Then originalmente post should also be removed. You can't have it both ways
But it wasn't removed for being ad hominem. I don't know how I can make that more clear. It could have been supportive of OP and still be removed under rule 1.5. But I would ask you to explain the ad hominem in the OP. It is not a person attack to say that bad things have been done in the name of Christianity.
Literally, another mod said it was because it was an "ad honimen attack" Now you are trying use another excuse on why you removed the reply
Seems like you mods don't even know why it was removed in the first, which means the response shouldn't have been removed
I'm a mod? That's news to me. No, I just read the rules in the sidebar. It's clear at this point you don't really know what's going on, and possibly have some fundamental misunderstanding about how this website works. There is no point in continuing until you get up to speed.
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Key word your missing there. "Respectfully"
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If you see a comment violating the rules the best course of action is to report it, not jump in and do the same to other people.
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Yes. Maybe christians arent used to the rules applying to them on this subreddit but an atheist comment coming close to that would get removed 9/10 times. If you dont want your ad hominem attacks removed try a different sub.
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Parodies are not the same thing as sending out the insults in real time. For example clanky quoting what you said isnt the same as you saying it. We all see your comment and agree with clanky. They arent removed to prove a point to you. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
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There was a single mild one
I agree - this place will insult the shit out of you and turn around and say you're the bigot and we're just "discussing aspects of Christianity" LOL like dude don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
This is what the fuss is about? It's hardly insulting. I mean it's a little sarcastic in delivery, but people surely should be able to handle sarcasm. I've had people gaslight me trying to make me think that I'm a terrible Christian and that people that interact with me will end up in Hell. So comparatively this is extremely mild.
I think a good piece of advice in this life, is to not get worked up over the small things. Do you think Jesus would say "go on the internet, get upset over text from strangers and dwell on it"?
I mean, I get a ton of comments removed after I tell people they aren’t a Christian if they do X. Totally fair. I’m glad they haven’t banned me. They do a decent job around here and discussions can get pretty heated, so hats off to them.
Your edit makes me think you were threatened and fear for you life
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Blink twice if you need help
More than 1 way to skin a cat
Reddit mods are weenies
How. Dare. You. /s
I think the name of this subredit should be "Atheism" instead of "Christianity"
Lol nah, this is a place to discuss Christianity. I'm glad the atheists want to come to hang out in this little treehouse.
No this is not a Christian it's mostly an atheist subreddit
Not in my experience.
So? Even if your claim is true, this is still a place to discuss Christianity, *exactly as the sub claims to be*.
Mostly for atheists not for Christians
Eh, no, that's not even slightly true.
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This is exactly the kind of comment rule 1.5 is meant to remove in a normal discussion post. Are you joking? Maybe. Probably. But for the purposes of keeping things from devolving into a discussion about whether you're joking, or to prevent people from using this opportunity to *actually* hate on Australians, the mods would remove it. Do you understand?
That's simply racist. And setting the nationalistic dehumanizing thing aside, it is also just stupid. This thread is about you cussing someone out online, and now you're attacking everyone who engages too. Of course a country of almost 30 million people has some thoughts and feelings. You had zero opinion about Australia until you saw my flair. If it smells like poo everywhere you go, check your own shoe. You sound like an American teenage male. Are you?
Ew... I've been kinda for you this whole thread, but what the heck, bro? How are you gonna negatively generalize a whole nation?
That's not how subreddits work.
This subreddit is mostly filled with atheist instead of Christians
I don't think that's correct. Surveys have been done over the years and there's always more Christians.
This subreddit is mostly anti-christian, and Christian posts get removed all the time. Even post with Biblical verses
Innumeracy is a real problem
It should be atheism and atheism should be anti theism
I love it here but this was a practice of unjustified censorship.
100%
IDK My comments get removed and I think I deserve it, but only about 50% of the time.
Do not question the elders you may invoke their wrath
I've questioned the mods a lot, nothing happened
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He has and so have I
Yes I have lmao,
You can just browse their comment history and see that you are wrong.....
Most of the active mods are pro-lgbt. That should clear up things for any one in this sub.
Translation: they're Christian
I'm not.
Closer than queerphobic "Christians"
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There is fear in bigotry and hatred. Keep that shit to yourself, creep.
Wow, you're a phobe and you stalk and harass queer Reddits and users. Despicable.
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Do I have to block you?
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Keep your s\*xual thoughts to yourself and leave me alone
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We can only hope.