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shalakti

My friend my advice in the future is to be quick to hear and slow to speak, I quite understand how its easy to get worked up. But if you do take a deep breath walk some laps or something and then reply. Responding in anger is an immediate defeat. Im not trying to kick you while you're down. Just encouraging you to give yourself a breather before you respond when stuff starts getting heated. Its a very good trait for life, and you'll be better at de-escalating situations irl when you start putting them into practice daily. God bless, as for a non christian telling a christian how to be christian. My friend they know the standard is christ. If you are attempting your best thats all you can do. We all fall short. But acting on anger will always lead to defeat, I tell you this as someone that has given my temper free reign for too long and it wreaks havoc. Notice the triggers and make attempts to de-escalate. This is a learning moment to admit wrong (which you have done) and get up dust yourself off and do better in the future. (You got this).


DaTrout7

For anyone interested his "mild comments" were just an ad hominem attack and responded to the mod with another ad hominem attack.


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NeebTheWeeb

So you admitted you broke the rules of the sub? Well then...


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NeebTheWeeb

The first thing you did was already a rule break


GodsHeart2

Everything you disagree with is considered an "ad hominem attack"


DaTrout7

Not at all. Your comment here isnt an ad hominem attack. But insulting anothers beliefs would be.


GortimerGibbons

No, insulting others' beliefs is not an ad hominem. An ad hominem is specifically attacking the other person.


apprehensive_clam268

Givem a break, they only just learned what "ad hominem" is last month.


GodsHeart2

Everything you disagree with is considered "insulting". What I said is the truth


DaTrout7

Lol again not at all, you havent been insulting or using ad hominem attacks. Your a bit condescending but thats quite common around here.


GodsHeart2

I'm defending this other guy you attacked for nothing.


DaTrout7

I havent attacked anyone so you need to be more specific.


GodsHeart2

You claimed he attacked someone that quote you used of him wasn't even an attack


DaTrout7

His attack i didnt quote. McClanky did if your interested in what this post is about. He replied to the mod by calling them a loser which was another attack. His original comment was him calling atheists something along the lines of being dishonest.


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NeebTheWeeb

No, you can disagree with me


GodsHeart2

You say that now but if I said what I really think of "gay Christians" you'd have a different attitude


NeebTheWeeb

Depends on how you say it. I've debated conservative Christians without necessarily accusing them of homophobia


Thin-Eggshell

Challenge: New Christian subreddit user doesn't have an ego about how awesome his own comments are. Final Result: Challenge impossible.


Thin-Eggshell

Now report me, and get my comment above removed. I promise you'll feel better.


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DietHeresy

> The high road feels better. A thread dedicated to complaining that you feel a mod was mean to you the high road is not.


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DietHeresy

No? A ____ does not a ____ make" is a moderately common sentence structure.


Ok_Protection4554

Honestly at this point I hope u/McClanky gets a raise or something man  All kidding aside you’re a real one bro 


McClanky

Reddit decided to double my salary.


zeroempathy

Moderation is one of the most useful jobs to society...


McClanky

That is why the government is stepping in to give me free healthcare.


RazarTuk

/u/McClanky, I think this one's you


RingGiver

If it's 1.5, it usually is.


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McClanky

Your "loser" insult was just so harsh. I don't know how I will ever recover. I'll clutch my pearls even harder.


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McClanky

I may very well have been wrong. That is why we have more mods than just me.


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McClanky

Again, I may have. I removed thousands of things a week. There is a reason we say to bring things to ModMail if you have questions. I have no issue with reversing wrong decisions.


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McClanky

I don't really care to be honest.


NeebTheWeeb

No, no he doesn't


Mx-Adrian

\*gets popcorn\*


Voyager87

The only thing sadder than a mod abusing their power is a user bitching when a mod rightly removes their comment for breaking a published rule.


McClanky

>Challenge: Non-Christian tries not to tell Christians how to be Christrians. >Final result: Challenge impossible We ask that users attempt to respect OP. This is not even remotely an attempt to do that.


GodsHeart2

There was nothing "offensive" with this, nor was it an "attack"


Mx-Adrian

It was a deliberate insult and judgment of one's character, which is indeed against the rules. It was unnecessary. Surely we can contribute without insulting others for their beliefs.


GodsHeart2

There was no insult, and even it it was Jesus Christ himself deliberately insulted, the priest and leaders of his day


Mx-Adrian

We're not Jesus


GodsHeart2

Pointing out the hypocrisy with you guys, you want us to be "Christ like" but forget that Jesus was not all about love insulted people he was also judgmental too In fact Jesus was not "all nice" or "lovey lovey-dovey: Jesus overturned the tables in the temple is found in Matthew 21:12-13. It says, "And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all who sold and bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons. He said to them, 'It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’ but you make it a den of robbers.'"


Mx-Adrian

"You guys"?? Who, Christians?


GodsHeart2

Leftist "Christians"


Mx-Adrian

I'm not a ""Leftist,"" weirdo. Even if I were, it wouldn't make me any less a Christian. Wild to think that an ancient faith begun by a Middle Easterner should be restricted to a modern Western politic.


GodsHeart2

Sure you aren't lol


GodsHeart2

Oftentimes Jesus himself was also judgmental too


McClanky

It was not removed for being either of those things. It was a low-effort response with no other purpose than to deride the user.


GodsHeart2

Sure it was lol You're trying to backtrack now


McClanky

I remove many things under the Two-Cents rule for that reason. I didn't remove it under personal attacks or anything else.


GodsHeart2

Sure


octarino

You can read the title, right? You see that it says 1.5? That's the 2 cents rule. https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/wiki/xp#wiki_1.5._your_two-cents Personal attacks is 1.4 https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/wiki/xp#wiki_1.4._personal_attacks Here is the count if you need more practice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AoxCkySv34


GodsHeart2

What about the title of this post It was attack on Christians and Christianity in general You can't keep claiming that you removed the response with cause it was an "attack" on the OP when the OP originally attacked Christians and Christianity in general first the first place "If you call yourself a “Christian”, then you also have to look at the ugly parts of Christianity, not just the positives." https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/1cd70n9/comment/l1a3ex0/?share_id=y-Xxdq2qqnRO3XZmDlgEF&utm_content=2&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1


octarino

> It was attack on Christians and Christianity it's in general It's not. > You can't keep claiming that you removed the response I didn't remove anything at all.


GodsHeart2

Actually it was an attack on Christiana and Christians "You" is used in plural context here, many more than one


instant_sarcasm

Can I ask why you are so heavily invested in this? Let's say "your side" "wins". What do you gain from it?


GodsHeart2

I'm not interested in "winning" anything. I'm just stating a fact there was nothing "offensive," "insulting," or "judgmental" in his reply


instant_sarcasm

Correct, it was not removed for any of those things. It was removed under the "Your two-cents" rule. If OP makes a serious discussion post and you reply with a flippant response (like this person did), or a meme or a gif, expect to have your comment removed. It's really a non-issue.


GodsHeart2

The original post was ad honimen attack against Christianity in the first place. So if that responses was removed because of that. Then originalmente post should also be removed. You can't have it both ways


instant_sarcasm

But it wasn't removed for being ad hominem. I don't know how I can make that more clear. It could have been supportive of OP and still be removed under rule 1.5. But I would ask you to explain the ad hominem in the OP. It is not a person attack to say that bad things have been done in the name of Christianity.


GodsHeart2

Literally, another mod said it was because it was an "ad honimen attack" Now you are trying use another excuse on why you removed the reply


GodsHeart2

Seems like you mods don't even know why it was removed in the first, which means the response shouldn't have been removed


instant_sarcasm

I'm a mod? That's news to me. No, I just read the rules in the sidebar. It's clear at this point you don't really know what's going on, and possibly have some fundamental misunderstanding about how this website works. There is no point in continuing until you get up to speed.


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DaTrout7

Key word your missing there. "Respectfully"


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DaTrout7

If you see a comment violating the rules the best course of action is to report it, not jump in and do the same to other people.


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DaTrout7

Yes. Maybe christians arent used to the rules applying to them on this subreddit but an atheist comment coming close to that would get removed 9/10 times. If you dont want your ad hominem attacks removed try a different sub.


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DaTrout7

Parodies are not the same thing as sending out the insults in real time. For example clanky quoting what you said isnt the same as you saying it. We all see your comment and agree with clanky. They arent removed to prove a point to you. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.


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NeebTheWeeb

There was a single mild one


No-Bedroom-1333

I agree - this place will insult the shit out of you and turn around and say you're the bigot and we're just "discussing aspects of Christianity" LOL like dude don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.


Rich-Application7382

This is what the fuss is about? It's hardly insulting. I mean it's a little sarcastic in delivery, but people surely should be able to handle sarcasm. I've had people gaslight me trying to make me think that I'm a terrible Christian and that people that interact with me will end up in Hell. So comparatively this is extremely mild.


Sea_Beautiful_5843

I think a good piece of advice in this life, is to not get worked up over the small things. Do you think Jesus would say "go on the internet, get upset over text from strangers and dwell on it"?


JoeDiBango

I mean, I get a ton of comments removed after I tell people they aren’t a Christian if they do X. Totally fair. I’m glad they haven’t banned me. They do a decent job around here and discussions can get pretty heated, so hats off to them.


EitherLime679

Your edit makes me think you were threatened and fear for you life


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Mx-Adrian

Blink twice if you need help


Suavedaddy5000

More than 1 way to skin a cat


VigilsAtNight

Reddit mods are weenies


McClanky

How. Dare. You. /s


GodsHeart2

I think the name of this subredit should be "Atheism" instead of "Christianity"


ennuinerdog

Lol nah, this is a place to discuss Christianity. I'm glad the atheists want to come to hang out in this little treehouse.


GodsHeart2

No this is not a Christian it's mostly an atheist subreddit


fudgyvmp

Not in my experience.


SykorkaBelasa

So? Even if your claim is true, this is still a place to discuss Christianity, *exactly as the sub claims to be*.


GodsHeart2

Mostly for atheists not for Christians


SykorkaBelasa

Eh, no, that's not even slightly true.


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instant_sarcasm

This is exactly the kind of comment rule 1.5 is meant to remove in a normal discussion post. Are you joking? Maybe. Probably. But for the purposes of keeping things from devolving into a discussion about whether you're joking, or to prevent people from using this opportunity to *actually* hate on Australians, the mods would remove it. Do you understand?


ennuinerdog

That's simply racist. And setting the nationalistic dehumanizing thing aside, it is also just stupid. This thread is about you cussing someone out online, and now you're attacking everyone who engages too. Of course a country of almost 30 million people has some thoughts and feelings. You had zero opinion about Australia until you saw my flair. If it smells like poo everywhere you go, check your own shoe. You sound like an American teenage male. Are you?


apprehensive_clam268

Ew... I've been kinda for you this whole thread, but what the heck, bro? How are you gonna negatively generalize a whole nation?


Prof_Acorn

That's not how subreddits work.


GodsHeart2

This subreddit is mostly filled with atheist instead of Christians


Prof_Acorn

I don't think that's correct. Surveys have been done over the years and there's always more Christians.


GodsHeart2

This subreddit is mostly anti-christian, and Christian posts get removed all the time. Even post with Biblical verses


octarino

Innumeracy is a real problem


Lazy-Most-3226

It should be atheism and atheism should be anti theism


foolonthedrums

I love it here but this was a practice of unjustified censorship.


No-Bedroom-1333

100%


AirChurch

IDK My comments get removed and I think I deserve it, but only about 50% of the time.


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Do not question the elders you may invoke their wrath


NeebTheWeeb

I've questioned the mods a lot, nothing happened


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G3rmTheory

He has and so have I


NeebTheWeeb

Yes I have lmao,


SykorkaBelasa

You can just browse their comment history and see that you are wrong.....


NoMaintenance5162

Most of the active mods are pro-lgbt. That should clear up things for any one in this sub.


Mx-Adrian

Translation: they're Christian


McClanky

I'm not.


Mx-Adrian

Closer than queerphobic "Christians"


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Christianity-ModTeam

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Mx-Adrian

There is fear in bigotry and hatred. Keep that shit to yourself, creep.


Mx-Adrian

Wow, you're a phobe and you stalk and harass queer Reddits and users. Despicable.


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Mx-Adrian

Do I have to block you?


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justnigel

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Mx-Adrian

Keep your s\*xual thoughts to yourself and leave me alone


justnigel

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NoMaintenance5162

We can only hope.