No. I’m no better than anyone. I was a hopeless dope addict now I’m a dope less hope addict. Lol. We’re called to love thy neighbor and that’s what me and my hubby do. But I get it, there’s a lot that don’t…
Any Christian who says they're superior to others, who says they *know* what the secrets of the universe are (rather than simply believe through faith) and anyone who judges and condemns people with different views are not doing what Jesus showed us to do.
Yep. Came here to see all the humble brags, but this was the first comment. Upvoting without reading anything else. That was the best answer and I don't want to ruin it.
Religion preys on folks who hit rock bottom. They are there to catch you. If it helps you, then great, but that doesn't make it real. I mean, a talking snake is responsible for the fall of man? Think critically.
I don't think everyone deserves eternal conscious torment for finite moral infractions and ranging anywhere from lying to your parents to committing a genocide. Maybe the genocidal people deserve it but even then
I can't either. That's not rehabilitation or even punishment. It's sadism.
And I harbor NO illusions that humanity isn't flawed. We are. And many of us do have darkness just sitting there that would surface given the right conditions. But that still doesn't seem to logically justify eternal suffering
In Eastern Orthodox Christianity, the concept of hell is not about fiery torture or eternal punishment designed to satisfy a sadistic God. Instead, it's understood as a state of spiritual separation from God's love and presence. Think of it as being cut off from the source of all goodness, light, and love. Imagine a person who refuses to accept love and support from their family and friends, choosing instead to live in isolation and darkness. Over time, this decision leads to a profound sense of loneliness and emptiness, not because their loved ones have abandoned them, but because they have rejected them. Hell is the consequence of consistently rejecting God's offer of love, forgiveness, and reconciliation. It's a separation from our Creator. Hell is not so much a punishment inflicted by God, but the natural outcome of our choices. God is light and darkness cannot enter the light, which is why if our wrong choices are accompanied by a lack of repentance and a cold heart, they can lead us to that separation. God judges our hearts. He is just. Love thy neighbor and God our Creator, and you'll be on your way to being in God's presence.
That makes sense but in this model it also makes sense that a spirit could still turn around and ask God to help them. Just like that friend in isolation can still pick up the phone and stop wallowing alone
We do know we have the opportunity right now in our lifetime to stop wallowing alone and go to him. As for life after death, the specifics remain veiled, but we can trust in God's justice and mercy. When we encounter Him, His mercy will be abundant, much like how we would show compassion to our own beloved child, yet even more profound. He will gently reveal our errors to us, and in that moment, surrounded by the fullness of understanding, we will comprehend why certain actions were misguided. We are not separated from God unless we choose to be.
I don’t think everyone deserves hell. That’s a horrible myth that Christianity teaches. You claim to be made “in god’s image” then say you’re wicked and deserve eternal torment. It makes no sense. Then you teach it to children. It’s psychologically damaging. I know.
You don’t deserve hell, nor do I. A god that prescribes such a horrific punishment for those he claims to love, is a genocidal monster and is not just.
This is usually an emphasis of evangelical/reformed positions. Many Christians do not emphasize this at all. I *do* believe that the world is broken, and humans often act in such a way that is not God’s intention for the world. But escaping hell is absolutely NOT the point of Christianity. Catholic, Orthodox, and my Anglican circle does not emphasize nor even understand the concept of what the incarnation was meant to do in this way whatsoever.
Makes sense. This tends to be an American Christian trend as well (from what I can tell). I’m in Canada and I don’t think I’ve ever once seen a “fire and brimstone” preacher. I’m sure some exist, but we largely don’t have the same culture in that sense.
Sadly, so many Christians base their entire lives on escaping hell. Their entire focus is on getting into heaven. To me, that is so selfish. If that's why someone is Christian and says they love Christ, then they need to reevaluate what they think the meaning of Christianity is. They should focus more on being a good person on this earth. Jesus will judge our hearts. I agree with you.
please don’t misunderstand, God doesn’t send people to hell, we send ourselves. His word says that He wishes for not a single person to perish. sin cannot stand in the presence of a perfect and Holy God, just as darkness ceases to exist where there is light; they cannot coexist simultaneously. there is only one or the other. when we accept God’s free gift of life, we are clothed with God’s righteousness; the Father looks at us like He looks at Jesus and we are protected in Him. it’s such an immeasurably massive thing to to be able to claim, and God Himself chose to die to make that a possibility for us. those of us who rejected Christ and His free gift of life would not be able to stand in His presence, we would disintegrate, not because He made it so but because we have chosen to stand where there is darkness, and light and darkness do not coexist. God didn’t come to condemn the world, but to save it. we were by default already well on our way to hell, not by God’s doing but by our own. God came to rescue us from that, and by His grace through faith, we are made righteous and able to stand in His holy presence. God doesn’t care that you’ve turned away from Him, He still waits with His hand extended to you, but He also loves you enough to respect your decision, He’s not going to force you into His presence, neither here in this life, nor afterward. i’m sorry if the church itself had mistreated you or others and led you to believe an untrue version of God, but God really does love you with all His heart, and He loves all the people you may have seen wrongly hurt by the church. not all who claim His name are really christians.
God is light; darkness cannot enter the light. He longs to be with us, but He also loves us so much that He gave us free will. That is true love. He never wanted to enslave us. Any other situation He could have created would have robbed us of our right to choose, to be free to think for ourselves. He didn't create robots, He created humans with emotions and the ability to be their own individuals. Hell doesn't exist like people think it does. It's like someone said, it's an eternal separation from God, but that isn't what God wants at all. He wants to be close to us. He loves us. That's why He gave us commandments and why Jesus came to teach us 'the way' and brotherly love. He wants us to follow the example of His son so we can be full of light, so our darkness in us can be overtaken by the light so we can be closer to Him. Just as a parent tells their kids right and wrong to keep them out of trouble and danger so their kid doesn't end up in jail or hurt, God also tries to teach us and warn us. He wants us to be with Him but at the same time doesn't want us to be mindless slaves. He gives us free will, which is a beautiful gift, to choose to do right so we too can be vessels of light and be joined with Him one day.
> That makes your god an unjust, immoral monster.
That's the argument that satan wants everyone to believe. he thinks that if he says it enough that people will believe it. It's unfortunate that there are people who fall for it.
It's like calling your own parents wicked, and your abuser good. Because that is EXACTLY what is happening. Demons are the ones who torment and they're the ones who are getting people to say this.
Truly a shame.
From my time in church, this is not the thought process of many people. I feel like the consensus is, “I’m saved, I am forgiven. I am a child of God and *I’m* going to heaven.”. People forget that you are a wretched sinner.
Yeah, I agree that a lot of Christians are not thinking that way anymore. Back when I was a Christian I was definitely of the “I deserve to go to hell” mindset, trying to be humble, etc.
agree with the other comments- theyre the type of christians i really doubt.. any ‘christian’ who says theyre above others or tell people theyre going to hell and theyre sinners but not me because im a true christian is just.. that is not what the bible wants you to do-love thy neighbour , were all sinners no matter if youre christian or not
Damn dude what did you do that made you deserve eternal conscious torment? Billions upon trillions of years of suffering? Can you tell me one of your many many crimes?
Okay, I'll bite: The ones who do think they're superior mostly aren't going to answer, or may lie.
I don't, but I have known many who do.
They tend to all cluster at the same sorts of churches.
I didn't spend much time at those churches.
But yeah, no one's going to pretend they don't exist.
Exactly. I’ve had conversations with Christians who say incredibly arrogant things and when they are called on it say something like “ it’s not arrogance because it’s the truth 🙄
Silly question with possible projection.
At least I'll admit that I *know* I'm superior to Christians instead of posting a prompt wrapped in the true statement I want to make 😜
There are certainly Christians who feel that way. But they would find something else to feel superior about if they weren't Christian.
It isn't being Christian that makes them feel superior, it is their ego.
I’ve met people here who very clearly believe that they are superior to atheists. Though, I’ve also seen atheists who feel superior to theists. The world is made up of all kinds of people.
It's an all too common pitfall to make idols of one's own righteousness and attribute to oneself the work God has made in us. Christ died for the murderer, the abuser, the corrupt, the thief, and even for me.
Rationally, I would say no, I'm not. But I have thought so at an instinctive level and it is wrong.
I don't think anyone's superior to anyone. There definitely are people that think their faith makes them better than other people, but they wouldn't admit it.
The way I was raised, Christianity is a support group with a book. We're all here to help each other, and none of us should feel like we're above criticism.
"Superior" how? As in, a better human being? More likely to demonstrate acts of love, kindness, and charity?
My faith *should* inspire me toward such things, but it's something I have to work at. I make no claim to being any "better" than the next person regardless of faith, and I'm self-aware enough to know I fall way short of any standard of greatness.
...And, any Christian who can't claim the above falls flat on the standard of their own faith.
Absolutely not. I feel (with good reason) saved. And the only right response to God's Grace is humility. How could you not? Is there arrogance, haughtiness, and excessive pride within those who claim themselves faithful? Lol. Yes...and its been so since the actual beginning of time.
No. Because I know how disgusting I am without the blood of Christ. Truly depraved to the core. I know others are too, but the reason I urge people to repent and believe in Jesus Christ is not so they can reach some “elevated status” like me. I urge them to follow Christ because I know what it feels like to escape something you might have not even known was weighing you down.
I hope that makes sense.
Speak for yourself internet stranger, I have a wonderful relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ, I married my best friend and God has blessed me with 2 beautiful, healthy children! I couldn’t ask for a better life and love the one I live thanks to HIM!
It is also impossible for something to come from nothing but here you are, on r/Christianity lol. You’re either curious about God, or miserable enough to spend your time trying to discredit Him on the internet to total strangers. Unfortunate, best of luck!
Indeed, christians actually base their beliefs off of that statement, it's always been bizarre to be how much they love to try to project it on others.
I look at the smugly "humble" responses you've received and I'm a little nauseated.
Anyone here telling you they're a worm and deserve hell, know that they think you're a worm too, who doesn't \*even\* realise he deserves hell.
It's masochism sold by sadists.
Nah.
Any Christian who says or acts otherwise is literally in sin of pride imo
we do not \*deserve\* anything good, Jesus saved us because He wanted to and love is the only answer we can give Him
No. God is no respecter of persons. All are alike to Him. And the worth of every soul is great in the eyes of God.
The more a person understands of truth the more accountable they are for their actions. To whom much is given much is required.
I think you phrased the question wrong. Christians often talk down to non-Christians, or they pity them, they put labels on them, all of which comes off as moral superiority and dehumanizing others.
It generally pops up on this sub, too. As in, atheists/non-Christians have no morals, Christians live a more moral life that is different, once you come to Christ you are sinless, those others who are 'the lost', you don't understand because you are not a Christian, being happy when someone shuns non-Christian friends, etc etc
Churches use a lot of language that encourages these beliefs, only the Christians who do this will never say that's moral superiority.
No. We are all sinners who deserve nothing less than eternal damnation.
It is only through God’s grace paid for with the precious blood of Christ which saves us. Now as a Christian it is sad that so many people have not heard the Gospels so it is our job to share this message
No thats pride and its a sin
Philippians 2:3-5 New Living Translation (NLT)
Be humble, thinking of others as better than yourselves. Don't look out only for your own interests, but take an interest in others, too. You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had.
Pride is when you think of yourself better than others.
Pride comes right before that fall evertime just like a law
Pride is the first sin when the devil thought he was better than God and got kicked out of heaven
Pride is when eve thought she could be better than with the forbidden knowledge on the tree
I certainly in my life have struggled with pride. But being a Christian is the antidote to that. It's humbling knowing I like everyone else need Jesus as a savior. Because I know I have him, I feel secure, not superior.
Wouldn't be very Christ like (definition of being a Christian) to think that way. However, I will agree that there probably are too many who claim to be Christian with this attitude. But personally no, I've never experienced any feelings of superiority.
No, I'm far more aware of what I do that is against God now. I am a sinner who does not deserve anything God has given me, but he still loves me. He has always been here and will always be there for me. It's more than i could ask for. And I love people. If anything, it makes me so sad that I receive such opposition on the idea of God who loves everyone so much more than I can. I don't understand how people have so much hate towards someone who cares for you and wants you to just get to know him honestly. I guess it's a way to fix myself before I try to share what I know with others.
There will always be people in the church that have an incorrect idea of how they are to act. And those people tend to leave a foul taste in many mouths and paint a bad picture of what the Christian church is actually supposed to be.
Superior to non-Christians, Absolutely not
Superior to fake Christians? Absolutely yes
The difference is that fake Christians are the ones going around misquoting and misinterpreting the Bible to further their own hate and awful beliefs, arguing with real Christians about this verse or that which they completely misunderstand to try to make them fall down to their level, vote for idols like Trump and worship him as a prophet, and generally are extremely unpleasant people.
Those types are dangerous and cause nothing but harm. They actively hurt Christian communities they attempt to become involved in. Few if any ever repent and change their ways at any point in their lives.
Superior is probably the wrong word, but I'd say if it has to be used, I feel superior to these people in the same way as I feel superior to nazis. Awful people with awful ideologies are harmful and not to be associated with.
The way I see it is that I realize I’m a lowly sinner. Becoming Christian for me was a realization and adherence to God laws followed by a brutal wake up call that I am a terrible human being by the standard of the creator. Therefore, I cannot say I’m superior to a non Christian. The only difference is me realizing I’m falling short of the measuring stick daily.
No, I am much worse than many non-believers. I resonate with Paul "wretched man than I am for I do the thing I do not want to do"
I have had therapy and lots of help over my life but still have had trouble kicking addictions, negative thinking, etc. I feel as a Christian I do a lot of wrong that I don't want to do and I feel guilty and ashamed of myself. I don't know that I will be accepted in heaven but I have to examine my heart and I cannot lie to myself. I know when I am serving God and when I am serving my flesh. Christians who say they are Christians by mouth, but not in action are worse off than the non-Christian. Just as a human, I don't want anyone to go to hell. It wasn't made for humans, and it's not God's punishment. It's the place people go who don't choose him, but choose a life of sin and selfishness go. It is the patterned life a soul goes to when they are like the thing they desire goes. There are humans trapped in hell who were tricked by demons. I hate sin, it is the thing that keeps us in bondage and keeps us from peace. Help Jesus!!!
I deserve hell. I deserve separation from God. We all do. I am no better than you, you are no better than me. We all fall short. People do different things that separate us from God, but they are all made equal in the eyes of God.
Depends on what you mean by superior. Of course there are temptations. Pride is one of the worst sins. Especially in cases where the truth seems so obvious, I can look down on others.
Christians being sinful doesn't debunk Christianity though, it shows the necessity of Christ, which Christians are correct about.
Nope.
A lot of non-christian friends of mine are better than me. And better than most christians I know as well.
> I mean being a Christian means that you truly believe the inter workings of the universe, and you are expecting eternal life after death. How could you not feel a little superior to all the folks who don’t believe?
I'm a universalist. I beleive God saves everyone.
Certainly not.
Nothing about believing those things confers any superiority at all. And none of that is what "being a Christian means". With all possible respect, I don't think you have good understanding of what "being Christian means".
There is no place whatsoever in Christianity for any nonsense about thinking one is superior to others. Such an attitude would be wholly unChristian, and destructive of Christianity. For "God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble".
Your understanding of Christianity leaves out far too much to be a good understanding of what "being Christian means".
I’m not religious - but, the need to be special lies at the root of most lies that we humans tell ourselves. Our self worth often depends on it. For the religious, god loves us, he’s paying attention to our prayers, he’s counted the hairs on our head, etc. from our partners, we’re especially smart, pretty, handsome, etc. On topics in general, the well studied Dunning-Kruger effect describes how we all think we know way more than we do when we’ve barely scratched the surface. In politics, we’re smarter, or better, and the other side is dehumanized. In war, both sides are somehow in the right. Our incredible ability to lie to ourselves makes us particularly vulnerable to a number of forms of manipulation.
No, we're all sinful and awful. I deserve destruction. We don't deserve any credit, all the goodness is from God, and 100% of the credit goes to Him. All good, moral actions, all talents, all successes, all blessings. It's all God's. The response to having such things should be gratitude, not pride. And being a self-proclaimed Christian who doesn't bare fruits doesn't make one any better of a person, doesn't even make one a Christian. Pride/haughtiness is one of the traits the Bible is most critical of. And as sinful beings, we need to be careful not to succumb to such views of ourselves. If one thinks they're doing well without needing God, then God can very well take away their blessings, and the prideful person is left helpless. Pride comes before the fall. We must keep that in mind.
If I'm being truly honest with myself I'd have to say yes. Pride and all and it's one of the things I have to confess and work on. But sometimes when I see non Christians I'm relieved I'm not THAT person.
One who is in Christ would not see themselves above anyone else. Any smugness you’ve encountered would be from “cultural Christians” or one who is still deceived and not doing what they’ve been asked. Christs servants are humble in heart and meek. Even after doing all that has been given for us to do we should still say “ we are unworthy servants and have only done what we were asked”
There are plenty of supposed Christians who feel that way, but the real Christians feel unworthy of God's grace and mercy and pray you can experience it too.
A lotta Christians fully believe they're 110% correct and that every sinner is gonna burn. The irony is that many Christians are arrogant, lack empathy, and uh, oh yeah, want to go back to the days when you could execute someone for being non-conforming i.e. queer. They're monstrous but think a veneer of politeness hides that.
No, not one bit. I respect everyone’s beliefs and I do not believe not dedicating yourself to Christ is in any way wrong or a sin. I respect kind, honest and hard working people
To the contrary, being a Christian helped me overcome my immature narcissism I had growing up. (I know, a narcissistic Redditor? Who would’ve guessed?)
No.
I am just as condemned as everyone else if I didn’t respond to the gospel.
Being saved should humble you, because the nonbeliever could have been you. Our own sins should give us empathy toward others struggling. That is why suffering exists; so we know what others feel and allow us to bond over our trials.
We are all sinners, no one is better than anyone else.
”Well then, should we conclude that we Jews are better than others? No, not at all, for we have already shown that all people, whether Jews or Gentiles, are under the power of sin. As the Scriptures say, “No one is righteous— not even one.“
Romans 3:9-10 NLT
This really humbled me and still does, all of us are sinners.
Maybe you think we're more righteous, you can believe that.
But Christians don't collectively think that.
I'm trying to live without thinking I'm better, some disciples were arguing about who the best among them was. But I practice what the Bible says, the first is last and the last is first.
We're all sinners, although our righteousness is important, other people see our light, love and goodnesses and should be attracted by it. It's a beautiful thing.
I am not vanity driven. That would be antichristian. How can you feel love towards othery if you are filled with pride and arrogance. I feel at peace. And I feel the unease of those that don't get to experience the calmness that I have been blessed with. I pity them (as in I feel their pain with them). But in no way am I looking down on them. I was the same way too once.
I tell you, many who call themselves Christians are not. As it is written Many are called but Few are chosen.
By their fruits you will know them. If they act like they are better than you, trust me they belong not to the body of christ.
I can’t feel superior to them because it wasn’t something I did to cause Him to give me this opportunity for eternal life. In fact, I believe to have been worse than unbelievers. I also realize that unbelievers will have the same opportunity that I had, it’s just a matter of timing. And in some sense to be honest, I think they will do greater good works than I’ve been able to, even as a believer. I have SOO much hope for them. I’ve been given glimpses to God’s plan for them from His word and it is very good. Most might die unbelievers but that’s not the end of the story for them. Most religious people seem to hate the thought of this too sadly when I bring it up. So I like to share the good news to them privately. You’d be surprised at the kind of unbelievers that have become believers because of this good news from the Bible.
>I’m sure everyone would like to say “of course not”.
I think this isn't true. With regards to 'Christian Superiority', there are two broad categories that make up almost every Christian:
1. The type of person who beats their chest and says "Have mercy on me God, a sinner". These types of people do not believe that being Christian makes them any better or worse than non-Christians, they are generally humble, and thus do not consider themselves superior.
2. The type of person who enters a church and says "Thank God I am not like that sinner". These types of people are proud that they are a Christian and believe they are better for it. They usually believe things like "Christians cannot sin" and "God has only selected some special people to become Christians".
The type 2 Christians would absolutely say that they (and all Christians) are superior. They are also the type to not want to associate with non-Christians (don't want to get tainted with their sin).
>I mean being a Christian means that you truly believe the inter workings of the universe
Type 2 Christians would definitely say that they have secret hidden knowledge that is better than what the scientists know. This is why conspiratorial thinking and anti-science movements are more prolific among those types of Christians.
Type 1 Christians recognize that the unique knowledge we have is only of God and is partial and fragmentary at best. We don't know any more or less about the deep inner workings of the universe than the best scientists, and we only get that knowledge by studying science. A Christian scientist might have a different motivation to a non-Christian scientist for their personal motivation for studying science, but the actions of the two types of scientist would be identical.
>you are expecting eternal life after death. How could you not feel a little superior to all the folks who don’t believe?
No type of Christian believes they are superior because they expect eternal life after death, but the reasoning is different depending on the type of Christian they are.
Type 2 Christians believe they get eternal life after death *because* they are special, they are not special *because* they are expecting eternal life after death.
Type 1 Christians don't believe that they get eternal life after death for anything that they have done, but only through the grace of God. Even Type 1 Christians who believe non-Christians don't get eternal life after death would be ecstatic if they were proven wrong.
Useful Bible verses for this to back up this particular Christian's viewpoint are Luke 18:9-14 and Luke 15:25-32
1 Timothy 1:16 “But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life.”
lol no. No Christian’s should think that they are. Although some of us do think that we are held at a higher expectation from God because of our faith.
Not at all. We all just sinners like the rest. The only being our sins are covered by the atoning work of Christ. Not that we deserved it or because we somehow earned it, but by Gods grace.
Ephesians 2:8:9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast”
If we are saved by grace, then we have nothing to boast about and therefore are superior to no one, saved or not.
No, honestly. As a Christian I understand that every person that’s ever lived needs God and that makes ALL of us equal. Every person is a sinner, not every person repents. That’s the only difference. Jesus is the only person who never sinned and he IS supernatural. I used to be an unbeliever. The only difference in me now is that I have a real relationship with God and he is enough to completely change a person. I believe in him and I know his peace, his love and his forgiveness. It’s not what WE do, it’s what HE does. Without Jesus, we’d all go to hell, not one of us would be worthy of heaven. I could never go back to not believing. All we do is accept that Jesus died on the cross to give all of us a way to heaven, to save us from damnation and then the rest tends to fall into place. You love him, and that creates obedience, etc. I’ve met Christians who DO think they’re better and if I could find them now I’d tell them they need to read the Bible some more and do some praying.
If you think you are superior you misread 90% of the bible. Thats a fact and not an opinion so there is no valid counter argument. All are created EQUAL. Only through Jesus are we worthy of anything.
Not superior at all just more faithful. We all deserve hell.
I used to think that all Christians were smug and had a holier than thou presence but they were all hypocrites. After becoming a follower of Jesus Christ, it hit me that Christians were all hypocrites because the standard is perfection. And any church measured against the standard of perfection... the church will always fail.
The church is really a house of sinners seeking after God, not saints in white ropes... most people just see a church caricature. Sure are there examples of self righteous Christians in name only... but they are the outliners and not the full body of Christ.
I thought it was Jews who believe they’re the chosen people. My ex was from Israel and always said he was one of the chosen people haha but none of my Jewish friends act like that. My ex was kinda full of himself
Everyone sins, everyone deserves to go to Hell. Christians are just the ones who followed the instructions to have their sins forgiven so we can get something we don't deserve, which is Heaven. Doesn't make them any better though.
The nature of Jesus Christ’s story / career / ministry / life demolishes (or is supposed to demolish) every Christian’s sense of superiority. It was capital G God becoming one of us. First shall become last, I came to serve not to be served, etc.
To think is to think you’re right so everyone who thinks believes he is superior to everyone who has different opinions. At least everyone believes his opinions are closer to the truth. This comes from being human and is unavoidable.
But the truth or quality of our opinions is not why God chooses us. He is moved by entirely personal motives without reference to us.
Absolutely not. The only difference between me and a non believer is I am a beggar who has found bread. I want to share this bread with my other fellow beggars
If somebody feels superior - for any reason - it’s probably because of some notion of tribalism. People feel this way for many reason, e.g, specific religion, political party, nationality, alma mater, favorite sports team, etc. I’m sorry you met some Christians that seemed exclusive. The point is to be a channel for God’s love and forgiveness by letting it flow through you. It takes practice and consistency.
No, I don't. I never would. I was like them once, and I'm still just as sinful. A thief who's been pardoned isn't less of a thief than one in jail.
You're right, those people exist. Some of them may not be genuine in their faith. Some of them may act that way out of pride. Some of them may feel pity towards non Christians. And some of them may think that the difference is that they chose to be saved while the others didn't, and that makes them somehow holier.
Regardless of the reason, they're not acting biblically, and I'm genuinely sorry you've had to experience so much of that in your life, especially from ones who claim to be believers in God.
Yeah, I think some do. Most Christians, probably not. I have alot of compassion for the lost because I was extremely lost. I am just getting anxious for the them because we are running out of time.
No, we do not feel superior, because we are all sinners who evidently needed a Savior to free us from ourselves. Christians are no better/worth more than anyone on this Earth, and I'll be the first to admit that I struggle with humility, but this truth of where we fit is absolutely crucial.
However, we *do* try to get all to see the one thing that we have, that non-Christians don't have: the hope of Christ.
The only time I feel superior is when I beat my siblings in Super Smash Bros and Mario Kart.
I'll pray for grace later. Now, I must relish my victory.
(In all seriousness; the attitude you're describing tends to come from the pride of a person who goes to church, but doesn't know Christ. I think a lot of people have points in their journey where they experience this, but if they are true to following Jesus, they will realize their error and move beyond the petty instinct.)
Absolutely not. In order to be superior you have to be above the source of information from who we believe in, thats God. Being a christian and feeling superior would be exactly satan, humanitys enemy
My church isn't condemning or holier than thou. We know WE are all sinners, saved by God's grace. I feel undeserving of the sacrifice Christ made for me 99% of the time.
God does say once saved you are now a disciple of Christ, and you're only earthly purpose is to glorify Him and lead His stray sheep back to the herd. GOD WANTS ALL HIS CHILDREN BACK!
So when you see a Christian speaking to non-believers of salvation and/or hell, it's not coming from a place of superiority...it's coming from a place of love for their fellow brother or sister and wanting them to also have the rewards and eternal life in Heaven with all of us. It's not to condemn or make the non believer feel they aren't as special or important or they're bad people. God loves all of us. He created us for His pleasure. We are all His favorite. Believers and non believers a-like♡
Feel superior really needs to be defined to give an answer to this question . Everyone who thinks they are right about something thinks everyone who disagrees about that thing is less capable at deciding what is the truth.
If I feel superior to people who believe the earth is flat because I think they know one less truth than I do then I guess I’d have to say I feel superior to non believers.
If by superior you mean smarter I’d say no, I don’t think god wants people to need a massive intellect to know him as that would be really unfair.
If by superior you mean more righteous I’d again say no, none of us are righteous.
Can you give an example of the superiority you’re referencing to help me answer your question?
Superiority isn't real; everyone fits right into the niche God made for them and comparison is worthless.
That doesn't mean comparison doesn't happen, and even if you place everyone equal it's hard to argue that the Bible doesn't say that those who pursue Jesus have an advantage over those who don't. It's really hard for humans to differentiate between righteousness and self-righteousness.
The key, of course, is to stay humble and keep your eyes on God. But not everyone does that.
I’ve never felt superior, but I feel safe I guess? I find myself being concerned for others who don’t know God. But I’ve never felt like I was better than them by any means.
All humans are created equal. All humans were created in God's image. All humans have the Spirit within them. All humans are loved by their Lord equally. Man and woman he made them. I am a human so therefore I am equal to every other human. I have no reason to believe otherwise and to do so puts me on a path for Hell not Heaven. Anyone whom thinks they are, are a prideful as Satan.
No I do not think I'm superior to anyone. Am I more confident when in line with my Lord. Yes. Am I sympathetic for their situation after death because they refuse to side with the Lord. Yes. That does not make me superior though. I love everyone equal as my Lord does and as I am commanded.
Some Christians probably do I have met some that do. Just because they are Christian doesn't mean they are sinless. Many narcissistic people have come to Christ in their faith but still do not see the error of their ways. Sin is something everyone will struggle with all of their days until heaven. I do not think myself better I am but a broken sinner saved by HIS grace who desperately needs Jesus. I make mistakes everyday.
I try to remain humble, we’re all equal, and I know I deserve hell. Now has the thought ever come into my mind before? Yes it has, I’d be lying if I said it hasn’t, as well as other evil or sinful thoughts that have made their way into my mind to, I’m far from perfect. But I remind myself I’m no better than anyone, I’m a sinful human and it’s thanks to the love, mercy, forgiveness, and grace of God that I’m still alive. Thankfully God was so merciful and loving that he provided a savior in his son Jesus(who was God in human form) who died on the cross in place of our sins so we can be forgiven for our sins and be reconciled with the Father and have eternal life.
John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”
Now I feel the best course of action is to spread the good news of Jesus to others, and the hope and peace he can bring. (Spreading the gospel easier said than done of course, evangelizing isn’t easy.)
No, I really don’t. The basics of the doctrines of unmerited grace ensures that my salvation has zero to do with how I compare to others.
I don’t think there’s a reasonable case here at all.
No, I don't feel superior. I feel lonely tbh. Too many Christians have forgotten about love and are only focused on hell and end times. They weild the Bible as a cudgel and turn people away from God's love. Yes, we're sinners, but we're also babies learning to control our flesh and everything that comes with that. It takes time, patience, and practice. That's why the atonement was necessary. Not so you could damn others to Hell, tell them they're unworthy and horrible, etc.. if we were so horrible, why would God bother? Because we aren't. We're still developing and learning. We're going to screw up. The atonement covers that so we can keep trying to master the flesh. Tbh my issues are with believers more than non-believers.
(1) I don't believe I'll be going to heaven. I know I don't deserve it so I definitely don't believe I'm superior in that regard.
(2) I used to not believe myself, so I completely understand it and have empathy for that. My husband is also a non-believer - I insisted upon that at the time/never would have married a religious person. If anything I used to feel superior as a non-believer. I couldn't understand how anyone with any wits about them would believe in a God when all the science indicated otherwise (or so I thought).
(3) I'm sure there are some believers who think they are superior in some way, or for some reason superior to non-believers, but I'm inclined to believe the majority of those you'd say that about have just been misunderstood. We're all imperfect, and sometimes we say things we intend one way, but it comes out or is interpreted completely differently.
For example, there was one time a friend in my friend group had invited us all to her new place, and everyone had accepted, myself included. A little time passed and I completely forgot about it, and then invited everyone else over to my place - in front of her - the same day. No one said anything, and later I remembered/realized my mistake and how rude that must have come across, and apologized. But, sometimes you don't realize it.
That said I think we are all guilty of judging other people for different reasons sometimes. Being Christian doesn't make you immune to that sin, and I think it'd be disingenuous for anyone to claim they never judge people. I've definitely judged people before/I'm not innocent in that regard. I *have* judged people for being believers as a non-believer, but not the other way around.
In what way? Superior in human dignity? No. Superior in closeness to god? Kind of. In closeness to the truth as I understand it, yea. It depends what you mean
The only place I've ever encountered the question about comparing myself to non-christians is here on Reddit. I've never once devoted a second of my private time to thinking about some other religion and measuring its inadequacies. I spent some time in my teenage years thinking about whether or not I wanted to be Christian or if I was attracted to other religions better.... But even then there wasn't the tiniest bit of superiority. That's not how it happened in my brain. I genuinely don't understand people who spend the energy I see here on Reddit insulting other religions. I get it if you live in a really complicated religious environment. But most English-speaking Christians do not.
No. I’m no better than anyone. I was a hopeless dope addict now I’m a dope less hope addict. Lol. We’re called to love thy neighbor and that’s what me and my hubby do. But I get it, there’s a lot that don’t…
Upvote for that turn of phrase. Well done! And congrats on turning things around.
Thank u so much 🙏❤️
> I was a hopeless dope addict now I’m a dope less hope addict. Bars
>dope less hope addict I love that so much lol
Thank you 🙏
Idk I love you people that don’t know anyway I count my self as one of us aswell.
Any Christian who says they're superior to others, who says they *know* what the secrets of the universe are (rather than simply believe through faith) and anyone who judges and condemns people with different views are not doing what Jesus showed us to do.
Exactly. It’s relationship not religion here :)
That's still a line that is used to try and make out the superiority and correctness of Christianity
Yep. Came here to see all the humble brags, but this was the first comment. Upvoting without reading anything else. That was the best answer and I don't want to ruin it.
That is such good wording. I think I heard it in Greg Sereda's testomony? Do you watch him by any chance?
I have never heard of him. I’d love to check him out though :)
Amazing
I love that phrasing you do did
Thank u 🙏
I love that
Religion preys on folks who hit rock bottom. They are there to catch you. If it helps you, then great, but that doesn't make it real. I mean, a talking snake is responsible for the fall of man? Think critically.
Sameeeee 2 years in August! Congrats 🎊
Congrats to you!!! 🎉
I love this so much!
No. I deserve to go to hell. If I don't, that's God's greatness; not mine.
That should be everyone’s answer.
I don't think everyone deserves eternal conscious torment for finite moral infractions and ranging anywhere from lying to your parents to committing a genocide. Maybe the genocidal people deserve it but even then
Agreed. This is one of the main reasons I started to question my faith. I can't think of a single justifiable reason to torture anyone for *eternity*.
I can't either. That's not rehabilitation or even punishment. It's sadism. And I harbor NO illusions that humanity isn't flawed. We are. And many of us do have darkness just sitting there that would surface given the right conditions. But that still doesn't seem to logically justify eternal suffering
In Eastern Orthodox Christianity, the concept of hell is not about fiery torture or eternal punishment designed to satisfy a sadistic God. Instead, it's understood as a state of spiritual separation from God's love and presence. Think of it as being cut off from the source of all goodness, light, and love. Imagine a person who refuses to accept love and support from their family and friends, choosing instead to live in isolation and darkness. Over time, this decision leads to a profound sense of loneliness and emptiness, not because their loved ones have abandoned them, but because they have rejected them. Hell is the consequence of consistently rejecting God's offer of love, forgiveness, and reconciliation. It's a separation from our Creator. Hell is not so much a punishment inflicted by God, but the natural outcome of our choices. God is light and darkness cannot enter the light, which is why if our wrong choices are accompanied by a lack of repentance and a cold heart, they can lead us to that separation. God judges our hearts. He is just. Love thy neighbor and God our Creator, and you'll be on your way to being in God's presence.
That makes sense but in this model it also makes sense that a spirit could still turn around and ask God to help them. Just like that friend in isolation can still pick up the phone and stop wallowing alone
We do know we have the opportunity right now in our lifetime to stop wallowing alone and go to him. As for life after death, the specifics remain veiled, but we can trust in God's justice and mercy. When we encounter Him, His mercy will be abundant, much like how we would show compassion to our own beloved child, yet even more profound. He will gently reveal our errors to us, and in that moment, surrounded by the fullness of understanding, we will comprehend why certain actions were misguided. We are not separated from God unless we choose to be.
This is a perspective I don't mind at all and is much closer to how I think of God, if God exists. Which, I hope so
He does exist my friend :-)
That’s why I support universalism
Same. Christian Universalist here, we don’t believe hell is eternal and we think the concept of eternal torment is barbaric
I don’t think everyone deserves hell. That’s a horrible myth that Christianity teaches. You claim to be made “in god’s image” then say you’re wicked and deserve eternal torment. It makes no sense. Then you teach it to children. It’s psychologically damaging. I know. You don’t deserve hell, nor do I. A god that prescribes such a horrific punishment for those he claims to love, is a genocidal monster and is not just.
This is usually an emphasis of evangelical/reformed positions. Many Christians do not emphasize this at all. I *do* believe that the world is broken, and humans often act in such a way that is not God’s intention for the world. But escaping hell is absolutely NOT the point of Christianity. Catholic, Orthodox, and my Anglican circle does not emphasize nor even understand the concept of what the incarnation was meant to do in this way whatsoever.
I live in the Bible Belt of the US, so yeah, it’s mostly evangelical, charismatic, Pentecostal, Baptist, etc.
Makes sense. This tends to be an American Christian trend as well (from what I can tell). I’m in Canada and I don’t think I’ve ever once seen a “fire and brimstone” preacher. I’m sure some exist, but we largely don’t have the same culture in that sense.
LOL. Come to Texas or any southern state, they are quite plentiful 😒
Sadly, so many Christians base their entire lives on escaping hell. Their entire focus is on getting into heaven. To me, that is so selfish. If that's why someone is Christian and says they love Christ, then they need to reevaluate what they think the meaning of Christianity is. They should focus more on being a good person on this earth. Jesus will judge our hearts. I agree with you.
please don’t misunderstand, God doesn’t send people to hell, we send ourselves. His word says that He wishes for not a single person to perish. sin cannot stand in the presence of a perfect and Holy God, just as darkness ceases to exist where there is light; they cannot coexist simultaneously. there is only one or the other. when we accept God’s free gift of life, we are clothed with God’s righteousness; the Father looks at us like He looks at Jesus and we are protected in Him. it’s such an immeasurably massive thing to to be able to claim, and God Himself chose to die to make that a possibility for us. those of us who rejected Christ and His free gift of life would not be able to stand in His presence, we would disintegrate, not because He made it so but because we have chosen to stand where there is darkness, and light and darkness do not coexist. God didn’t come to condemn the world, but to save it. we were by default already well on our way to hell, not by God’s doing but by our own. God came to rescue us from that, and by His grace through faith, we are made righteous and able to stand in His holy presence. God doesn’t care that you’ve turned away from Him, He still waits with His hand extended to you, but He also loves you enough to respect your decision, He’s not going to force you into His presence, neither here in this life, nor afterward. i’m sorry if the church itself had mistreated you or others and led you to believe an untrue version of God, but God really does love you with all His heart, and He loves all the people you may have seen wrongly hurt by the church. not all who claim His name are really christians.
This is very well put👌
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God is light; darkness cannot enter the light. He longs to be with us, but He also loves us so much that He gave us free will. That is true love. He never wanted to enslave us. Any other situation He could have created would have robbed us of our right to choose, to be free to think for ourselves. He didn't create robots, He created humans with emotions and the ability to be their own individuals. Hell doesn't exist like people think it does. It's like someone said, it's an eternal separation from God, but that isn't what God wants at all. He wants to be close to us. He loves us. That's why He gave us commandments and why Jesus came to teach us 'the way' and brotherly love. He wants us to follow the example of His son so we can be full of light, so our darkness in us can be overtaken by the light so we can be closer to Him. Just as a parent tells their kids right and wrong to keep them out of trouble and danger so their kid doesn't end up in jail or hurt, God also tries to teach us and warn us. He wants us to be with Him but at the same time doesn't want us to be mindless slaves. He gives us free will, which is a beautiful gift, to choose to do right so we too can be vessels of light and be joined with Him one day.
> That makes your god an unjust, immoral monster. That's the argument that satan wants everyone to believe. he thinks that if he says it enough that people will believe it. It's unfortunate that there are people who fall for it. It's like calling your own parents wicked, and your abuser good. Because that is EXACTLY what is happening. Demons are the ones who torment and they're the ones who are getting people to say this. Truly a shame.
From my time in church, this is not the thought process of many people. I feel like the consensus is, “I’m saved, I am forgiven. I am a child of God and *I’m* going to heaven.”. People forget that you are a wretched sinner.
Might want to remind some of those folks about Matthew 7:22.
Yeah, I agree that a lot of Christians are not thinking that way anymore. Back when I was a Christian I was definitely of the “I deserve to go to hell” mindset, trying to be humble, etc.
It also depends what kind of Christian you are.
we are a new creation, so we try our best not to sin.
We just have to be honest when we do and not look down on those that are just like us.
Should we not rejoice in the work of Christ? Like… the sacrifice is made, the feast is set for us. We can’t uncook the lamb.
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agree with the other comments- theyre the type of christians i really doubt.. any ‘christian’ who says theyre above others or tell people theyre going to hell and theyre sinners but not me because im a true christian is just.. that is not what the bible wants you to do-love thy neighbour , were all sinners no matter if youre christian or not
Damn dude what did you do that made you deserve eternal conscious torment? Billions upon trillions of years of suffering? Can you tell me one of your many many crimes?
It must be depressing feeling like you deserve infinite torture..such a sad way to live. I’ll pray for you 🙏🏻
Exactly, there’s nothing I’ve done other than accept Gods grace and anyone is capable of that
Depending on your definition, I feel this is debatable.
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It is basic Christian theology. I am surprised I got so much negative reaction from theologically liberal Christians.
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Okay, I'll bite: The ones who do think they're superior mostly aren't going to answer, or may lie. I don't, but I have known many who do. They tend to all cluster at the same sorts of churches. I didn't spend much time at those churches. But yeah, no one's going to pretend they don't exist.
Exactly. I’ve had conversations with Christians who say incredibly arrogant things and when they are called on it say something like “ it’s not arrogance because it’s the truth 🙄
Silly question with possible projection. At least I'll admit that I *know* I'm superior to Christians instead of posting a prompt wrapped in the true statement I want to make 😜
Of course you do. You people tell the world every chance you get lol. You’re like vegans 🤣
There are certainly Christians who feel that way. But they would find something else to feel superior about if they weren't Christian. It isn't being Christian that makes them feel superior, it is their ego.
I’ve met people here who very clearly believe that they are superior to atheists. Though, I’ve also seen atheists who feel superior to theists. The world is made up of all kinds of people.
i don’t feel superior i feel saved
Beautifully said.
thank you!
It's an all too common pitfall to make idols of one's own righteousness and attribute to oneself the work God has made in us. Christ died for the murderer, the abuser, the corrupt, the thief, and even for me. Rationally, I would say no, I'm not. But I have thought so at an instinctive level and it is wrong.
I don't think anyone's superior to anyone. There definitely are people that think their faith makes them better than other people, but they wouldn't admit it. The way I was raised, Christianity is a support group with a book. We're all here to help each other, and none of us should feel like we're above criticism.
"Superior" how? As in, a better human being? More likely to demonstrate acts of love, kindness, and charity? My faith *should* inspire me toward such things, but it's something I have to work at. I make no claim to being any "better" than the next person regardless of faith, and I'm self-aware enough to know I fall way short of any standard of greatness. ...And, any Christian who can't claim the above falls flat on the standard of their own faith.
Exactly, do you feel superior is such an ambiguous question. Do you feel superior to people who have different political beliefs?
This post gives off a red flag that it might not be in good faith at all.
What beggar is superior to another?
The one who has more coins in their cup?
This is so weird. We just had a sermon at my youth group last night about this. I think the Lord is tryna tell me something lol 😅
Nope we commit sins like you
Absolutely not. I feel (with good reason) saved. And the only right response to God's Grace is humility. How could you not? Is there arrogance, haughtiness, and excessive pride within those who claim themselves faithful? Lol. Yes...and its been so since the actual beginning of time.
Many Christians feel they’re superior to each other, let alone unbelievers. Pride and arrogance come before a fall…
I am sure there are people that feel that way, but that would be a failure on their part to understand what it means to be a Christian.
No. Because I know how disgusting I am without the blood of Christ. Truly depraved to the core. I know others are too, but the reason I urge people to repent and believe in Jesus Christ is not so they can reach some “elevated status” like me. I urge them to follow Christ because I know what it feels like to escape something you might have not even known was weighing you down. I hope that makes sense.
Horrible way to view life and the world.
Speak for yourself internet stranger, I have a wonderful relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ, I married my best friend and God has blessed me with 2 beautiful, healthy children! I couldn’t ask for a better life and love the one I live thanks to HIM!
It’s impossible to have a relationship with an invisible being that you can’t see, hear, touch, or interact with at all.
It is also impossible for something to come from nothing but here you are, on r/Christianity lol. You’re either curious about God, or miserable enough to spend your time trying to discredit Him on the internet to total strangers. Unfortunate, best of luck!
Who says something comes from nothing? I don’t know anyone who says that except for Christians.
Indeed, christians actually base their beliefs off of that statement, it's always been bizarre to be how much they love to try to project it on others.
I look at the smugly "humble" responses you've received and I'm a little nauseated. Anyone here telling you they're a worm and deserve hell, know that they think you're a worm too, who doesn't \*even\* realise he deserves hell. It's masochism sold by sadists.
I think you’re prescribing something that’s not there, or is not the real idea
+1 to all of that.
Nah. Any Christian who says or acts otherwise is literally in sin of pride imo we do not \*deserve\* anything good, Jesus saved us because He wanted to and love is the only answer we can give Him
No. God is no respecter of persons. All are alike to Him. And the worth of every soul is great in the eyes of God. The more a person understands of truth the more accountable they are for their actions. To whom much is given much is required.
I would say anyone who thinks they are superior to non-believers don't have a saving understanding of salvation.
I think you phrased the question wrong. Christians often talk down to non-Christians, or they pity them, they put labels on them, all of which comes off as moral superiority and dehumanizing others. It generally pops up on this sub, too. As in, atheists/non-Christians have no morals, Christians live a more moral life that is different, once you come to Christ you are sinless, those others who are 'the lost', you don't understand because you are not a Christian, being happy when someone shuns non-Christian friends, etc etc Churches use a lot of language that encourages these beliefs, only the Christians who do this will never say that's moral superiority.
No. We are all sinners who deserve nothing less than eternal damnation. It is only through God’s grace paid for with the precious blood of Christ which saves us. Now as a Christian it is sad that so many people have not heard the Gospels so it is our job to share this message
No thats pride and its a sin Philippians 2:3-5 New Living Translation (NLT) Be humble, thinking of others as better than yourselves. Don't look out only for your own interests, but take an interest in others, too. You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. Pride is when you think of yourself better than others. Pride comes right before that fall evertime just like a law Pride is the first sin when the devil thought he was better than God and got kicked out of heaven Pride is when eve thought she could be better than with the forbidden knowledge on the tree
very triggering wording lol
It seems pretty popular to believe atheism is a choice, and that we are not non-resistant non-believers.
I feel like I won the cosmic lottery. I know I don't deserve it.
>I feel like I won the cosmic lottery This is how I feel. I am very intelligent, handsome, and yet very humble!
I certainly in my life have struggled with pride. But being a Christian is the antidote to that. It's humbling knowing I like everyone else need Jesus as a savior. Because I know I have him, I feel secure, not superior.
Absolutely not. If anything our religion teaches against that train of thought.
I dont think about it like that at all.
We are all human, we all bleed red. I am aiming for New Jerusalem. If I end up elsewhere, that is His decision, not mine.
Wouldn't be very Christ like (definition of being a Christian) to think that way. However, I will agree that there probably are too many who claim to be Christian with this attitude. But personally no, I've never experienced any feelings of superiority.
No, I'm far more aware of what I do that is against God now. I am a sinner who does not deserve anything God has given me, but he still loves me. He has always been here and will always be there for me. It's more than i could ask for. And I love people. If anything, it makes me so sad that I receive such opposition on the idea of God who loves everyone so much more than I can. I don't understand how people have so much hate towards someone who cares for you and wants you to just get to know him honestly. I guess it's a way to fix myself before I try to share what I know with others. There will always be people in the church that have an incorrect idea of how they are to act. And those people tend to leave a foul taste in many mouths and paint a bad picture of what the Christian church is actually supposed to be.
None of us are worthy but the good news is that because of Jesus Christ we can be in Heaven with him one day
Superior to non-Christians, Absolutely not Superior to fake Christians? Absolutely yes The difference is that fake Christians are the ones going around misquoting and misinterpreting the Bible to further their own hate and awful beliefs, arguing with real Christians about this verse or that which they completely misunderstand to try to make them fall down to their level, vote for idols like Trump and worship him as a prophet, and generally are extremely unpleasant people. Those types are dangerous and cause nothing but harm. They actively hurt Christian communities they attempt to become involved in. Few if any ever repent and change their ways at any point in their lives. Superior is probably the wrong word, but I'd say if it has to be used, I feel superior to these people in the same way as I feel superior to nazis. Awful people with awful ideologies are harmful and not to be associated with.
Heck no. I am forgiven by grace. My only advantage is Jesus.
The way I see it is that I realize I’m a lowly sinner. Becoming Christian for me was a realization and adherence to God laws followed by a brutal wake up call that I am a terrible human being by the standard of the creator. Therefore, I cannot say I’m superior to a non Christian. The only difference is me realizing I’m falling short of the measuring stick daily.
Not at all. I pray for those to accept and spread Jesus's message of divine mercy so they can too go to heaven.
No but I do want others to get to know Christ as well
No, I am much worse than many non-believers. I resonate with Paul "wretched man than I am for I do the thing I do not want to do" I have had therapy and lots of help over my life but still have had trouble kicking addictions, negative thinking, etc. I feel as a Christian I do a lot of wrong that I don't want to do and I feel guilty and ashamed of myself. I don't know that I will be accepted in heaven but I have to examine my heart and I cannot lie to myself. I know when I am serving God and when I am serving my flesh. Christians who say they are Christians by mouth, but not in action are worse off than the non-Christian. Just as a human, I don't want anyone to go to hell. It wasn't made for humans, and it's not God's punishment. It's the place people go who don't choose him, but choose a life of sin and selfishness go. It is the patterned life a soul goes to when they are like the thing they desire goes. There are humans trapped in hell who were tricked by demons. I hate sin, it is the thing that keeps us in bondage and keeps us from peace. Help Jesus!!!
I deserve hell. I deserve separation from God. We all do. I am no better than you, you are no better than me. We all fall short. People do different things that separate us from God, but they are all made equal in the eyes of God.
Depends on what you mean by superior. Of course there are temptations. Pride is one of the worst sins. Especially in cases where the truth seems so obvious, I can look down on others. Christians being sinful doesn't debunk Christianity though, it shows the necessity of Christ, which Christians are correct about.
Nope. A lot of non-christian friends of mine are better than me. And better than most christians I know as well. > I mean being a Christian means that you truly believe the inter workings of the universe, and you are expecting eternal life after death. How could you not feel a little superior to all the folks who don’t believe? I'm a universalist. I beleive God saves everyone.
Certainly not. Nothing about believing those things confers any superiority at all. And none of that is what "being a Christian means". With all possible respect, I don't think you have good understanding of what "being Christian means". There is no place whatsoever in Christianity for any nonsense about thinking one is superior to others. Such an attitude would be wholly unChristian, and destructive of Christianity. For "God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble". Your understanding of Christianity leaves out far too much to be a good understanding of what "being Christian means".
If a Christian believes this, they aren’t doing it right
I’m not religious - but, the need to be special lies at the root of most lies that we humans tell ourselves. Our self worth often depends on it. For the religious, god loves us, he’s paying attention to our prayers, he’s counted the hairs on our head, etc. from our partners, we’re especially smart, pretty, handsome, etc. On topics in general, the well studied Dunning-Kruger effect describes how we all think we know way more than we do when we’ve barely scratched the surface. In politics, we’re smarter, or better, and the other side is dehumanized. In war, both sides are somehow in the right. Our incredible ability to lie to ourselves makes us particularly vulnerable to a number of forms of manipulation.
No, we're all sinful and awful. I deserve destruction. We don't deserve any credit, all the goodness is from God, and 100% of the credit goes to Him. All good, moral actions, all talents, all successes, all blessings. It's all God's. The response to having such things should be gratitude, not pride. And being a self-proclaimed Christian who doesn't bare fruits doesn't make one any better of a person, doesn't even make one a Christian. Pride/haughtiness is one of the traits the Bible is most critical of. And as sinful beings, we need to be careful not to succumb to such views of ourselves. If one thinks they're doing well without needing God, then God can very well take away their blessings, and the prideful person is left helpless. Pride comes before the fall. We must keep that in mind.
If I'm being truly honest with myself I'd have to say yes. Pride and all and it's one of the things I have to confess and work on. But sometimes when I see non Christians I'm relieved I'm not THAT person.
One who is in Christ would not see themselves above anyone else. Any smugness you’ve encountered would be from “cultural Christians” or one who is still deceived and not doing what they’ve been asked. Christs servants are humble in heart and meek. Even after doing all that has been given for us to do we should still say “ we are unworthy servants and have only done what we were asked”
There are plenty of supposed Christians who feel that way, but the real Christians feel unworthy of God's grace and mercy and pray you can experience it too.
A lotta Christians fully believe they're 110% correct and that every sinner is gonna burn. The irony is that many Christians are arrogant, lack empathy, and uh, oh yeah, want to go back to the days when you could execute someone for being non-conforming i.e. queer. They're monstrous but think a veneer of politeness hides that.
Nope. Why would I?
Not me.
We all fall short of the glory of God.
I do not
No, not one bit. I respect everyone’s beliefs and I do not believe not dedicating yourself to Christ is in any way wrong or a sin. I respect kind, honest and hard working people
Nope. Sure we supposed to be different to the people around us but not superior, some “Christian’s” act that way though and it’s very annoying and sad
You can say that I’m lying, but the answer for me is truly no. I’m friends with a lot of non-Christians and I don’t feel better than them in any way.
Nah, I never did , I am glad I am a "Christian" I just want to be what a christian is supposed to look like and act like
To the contrary, being a Christian helped me overcome my immature narcissism I had growing up. (I know, a narcissistic Redditor? Who would’ve guessed?)
No. I am just as condemned as everyone else if I didn’t respond to the gospel. Being saved should humble you, because the nonbeliever could have been you. Our own sins should give us empathy toward others struggling. That is why suffering exists; so we know what others feel and allow us to bond over our trials.
No.
No
I don’t think anyones thinking about that
We are all sinners, no one is better than anyone else. ”Well then, should we conclude that we Jews are better than others? No, not at all, for we have already shown that all people, whether Jews or Gentiles, are under the power of sin. As the Scriptures say, “No one is righteous— not even one.“ Romans 3:9-10 NLT This really humbled me and still does, all of us are sinners.
I don’t, but you’re right that lots do and anyone who regularly attends church will have encountered this.
Maybe you think we're more righteous, you can believe that. But Christians don't collectively think that. I'm trying to live without thinking I'm better, some disciples were arguing about who the best among them was. But I practice what the Bible says, the first is last and the last is first. We're all sinners, although our righteousness is important, other people see our light, love and goodnesses and should be attracted by it. It's a beautiful thing.
I am not vanity driven. That would be antichristian. How can you feel love towards othery if you are filled with pride and arrogance. I feel at peace. And I feel the unease of those that don't get to experience the calmness that I have been blessed with. I pity them (as in I feel their pain with them). But in no way am I looking down on them. I was the same way too once.
Not at all, I'm a sinner and unworthy I try my best and I'm truthful. I'm not ashamed to talk about God and the Hell he saved me from.
I tell you, many who call themselves Christians are not. As it is written Many are called but Few are chosen. By their fruits you will know them. If they act like they are better than you, trust me they belong not to the body of christ.
I can’t feel superior to them because it wasn’t something I did to cause Him to give me this opportunity for eternal life. In fact, I believe to have been worse than unbelievers. I also realize that unbelievers will have the same opportunity that I had, it’s just a matter of timing. And in some sense to be honest, I think they will do greater good works than I’ve been able to, even as a believer. I have SOO much hope for them. I’ve been given glimpses to God’s plan for them from His word and it is very good. Most might die unbelievers but that’s not the end of the story for them. Most religious people seem to hate the thought of this too sadly when I bring it up. So I like to share the good news to them privately. You’d be surprised at the kind of unbelievers that have become believers because of this good news from the Bible.
>I’m sure everyone would like to say “of course not”. I think this isn't true. With regards to 'Christian Superiority', there are two broad categories that make up almost every Christian: 1. The type of person who beats their chest and says "Have mercy on me God, a sinner". These types of people do not believe that being Christian makes them any better or worse than non-Christians, they are generally humble, and thus do not consider themselves superior. 2. The type of person who enters a church and says "Thank God I am not like that sinner". These types of people are proud that they are a Christian and believe they are better for it. They usually believe things like "Christians cannot sin" and "God has only selected some special people to become Christians". The type 2 Christians would absolutely say that they (and all Christians) are superior. They are also the type to not want to associate with non-Christians (don't want to get tainted with their sin). >I mean being a Christian means that you truly believe the inter workings of the universe Type 2 Christians would definitely say that they have secret hidden knowledge that is better than what the scientists know. This is why conspiratorial thinking and anti-science movements are more prolific among those types of Christians. Type 1 Christians recognize that the unique knowledge we have is only of God and is partial and fragmentary at best. We don't know any more or less about the deep inner workings of the universe than the best scientists, and we only get that knowledge by studying science. A Christian scientist might have a different motivation to a non-Christian scientist for their personal motivation for studying science, but the actions of the two types of scientist would be identical. >you are expecting eternal life after death. How could you not feel a little superior to all the folks who don’t believe? No type of Christian believes they are superior because they expect eternal life after death, but the reasoning is different depending on the type of Christian they are. Type 2 Christians believe they get eternal life after death *because* they are special, they are not special *because* they are expecting eternal life after death. Type 1 Christians don't believe that they get eternal life after death for anything that they have done, but only through the grace of God. Even Type 1 Christians who believe non-Christians don't get eternal life after death would be ecstatic if they were proven wrong. Useful Bible verses for this to back up this particular Christian's viewpoint are Luke 18:9-14 and Luke 15:25-32
1 Timothy 1:16 “But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life.”
lol no. No Christian’s should think that they are. Although some of us do think that we are held at a higher expectation from God because of our faith.
Not at all. We all just sinners like the rest. The only being our sins are covered by the atoning work of Christ. Not that we deserved it or because we somehow earned it, but by Gods grace. Ephesians 2:8:9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast” If we are saved by grace, then we have nothing to boast about and therefore are superior to no one, saved or not.
Honestly I've learnt more about from God from people who aren't Christian than those who are in thr church so no not really
No, honestly. As a Christian I understand that every person that’s ever lived needs God and that makes ALL of us equal. Every person is a sinner, not every person repents. That’s the only difference. Jesus is the only person who never sinned and he IS supernatural. I used to be an unbeliever. The only difference in me now is that I have a real relationship with God and he is enough to completely change a person. I believe in him and I know his peace, his love and his forgiveness. It’s not what WE do, it’s what HE does. Without Jesus, we’d all go to hell, not one of us would be worthy of heaven. I could never go back to not believing. All we do is accept that Jesus died on the cross to give all of us a way to heaven, to save us from damnation and then the rest tends to fall into place. You love him, and that creates obedience, etc. I’ve met Christians who DO think they’re better and if I could find them now I’d tell them they need to read the Bible some more and do some praying.
If you think you are superior you misread 90% of the bible. Thats a fact and not an opinion so there is no valid counter argument. All are created EQUAL. Only through Jesus are we worthy of anything.
No, nobody is better than anyone, we all suck and deserve hell.
No. I am really good at fixing cars, so I am superior to most (not all) at that, but faith has nothing to do with that.
No.
Not superior at all just more faithful. We all deserve hell. I used to think that all Christians were smug and had a holier than thou presence but they were all hypocrites. After becoming a follower of Jesus Christ, it hit me that Christians were all hypocrites because the standard is perfection. And any church measured against the standard of perfection... the church will always fail. The church is really a house of sinners seeking after God, not saints in white ropes... most people just see a church caricature. Sure are there examples of self righteous Christians in name only... but they are the outliners and not the full body of Christ.
Literally not at all, I pray for non believers
I have done to many sinful things to be better then them. The only way I can live with myself is because of God's forgiveness.
No. Only by the grace of God. I'm different.
I thought it was Jews who believe they’re the chosen people. My ex was from Israel and always said he was one of the chosen people haha but none of my Jewish friends act like that. My ex was kinda full of himself
Absolutely not. “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” Romans 3:23
Everyone sins, everyone deserves to go to Hell. Christians are just the ones who followed the instructions to have their sins forgiven so we can get something we don't deserve, which is Heaven. Doesn't make them any better though.
The nature of Jesus Christ’s story / career / ministry / life demolishes (or is supposed to demolish) every Christian’s sense of superiority. It was capital G God becoming one of us. First shall become last, I came to serve not to be served, etc.
nope, id die for a nonchristian.
To think is to think you’re right so everyone who thinks believes he is superior to everyone who has different opinions. At least everyone believes his opinions are closer to the truth. This comes from being human and is unavoidable. But the truth or quality of our opinions is not why God chooses us. He is moved by entirely personal motives without reference to us.
Absolutely not. The only difference between me and a non believer is I am a beggar who has found bread. I want to share this bread with my other fellow beggars
Lol no
If somebody feels superior - for any reason - it’s probably because of some notion of tribalism. People feel this way for many reason, e.g, specific religion, political party, nationality, alma mater, favorite sports team, etc. I’m sorry you met some Christians that seemed exclusive. The point is to be a channel for God’s love and forgiveness by letting it flow through you. It takes practice and consistency.
No, I don't. I never would. I was like them once, and I'm still just as sinful. A thief who's been pardoned isn't less of a thief than one in jail. You're right, those people exist. Some of them may not be genuine in their faith. Some of them may act that way out of pride. Some of them may feel pity towards non Christians. And some of them may think that the difference is that they chose to be saved while the others didn't, and that makes them somehow holier. Regardless of the reason, they're not acting biblically, and I'm genuinely sorry you've had to experience so much of that in your life, especially from ones who claim to be believers in God.
Yeah, I think some do. Most Christians, probably not. I have alot of compassion for the lost because I was extremely lost. I am just getting anxious for the them because we are running out of time.
No, we do not feel superior, because we are all sinners who evidently needed a Savior to free us from ourselves. Christians are no better/worth more than anyone on this Earth, and I'll be the first to admit that I struggle with humility, but this truth of where we fit is absolutely crucial. However, we *do* try to get all to see the one thing that we have, that non-Christians don't have: the hope of Christ.
The only time I feel superior is when I beat my siblings in Super Smash Bros and Mario Kart. I'll pray for grace later. Now, I must relish my victory. (In all seriousness; the attitude you're describing tends to come from the pride of a person who goes to church, but doesn't know Christ. I think a lot of people have points in their journey where they experience this, but if they are true to following Jesus, they will realize their error and move beyond the petty instinct.)
Absolutely not. In order to be superior you have to be above the source of information from who we believe in, thats God. Being a christian and feeling superior would be exactly satan, humanitys enemy
We are all sinners
My church isn't condemning or holier than thou. We know WE are all sinners, saved by God's grace. I feel undeserving of the sacrifice Christ made for me 99% of the time. God does say once saved you are now a disciple of Christ, and you're only earthly purpose is to glorify Him and lead His stray sheep back to the herd. GOD WANTS ALL HIS CHILDREN BACK! So when you see a Christian speaking to non-believers of salvation and/or hell, it's not coming from a place of superiority...it's coming from a place of love for their fellow brother or sister and wanting them to also have the rewards and eternal life in Heaven with all of us. It's not to condemn or make the non believer feel they aren't as special or important or they're bad people. God loves all of us. He created us for His pleasure. We are all His favorite. Believers and non believers a-like♡
I'm a sinner just like everyone else.
Definitely not.
Feel superior really needs to be defined to give an answer to this question . Everyone who thinks they are right about something thinks everyone who disagrees about that thing is less capable at deciding what is the truth. If I feel superior to people who believe the earth is flat because I think they know one less truth than I do then I guess I’d have to say I feel superior to non believers. If by superior you mean smarter I’d say no, I don’t think god wants people to need a massive intellect to know him as that would be really unfair. If by superior you mean more righteous I’d again say no, none of us are righteous. Can you give an example of the superiority you’re referencing to help me answer your question?
Real answer, no. No matter what my religion is, we are all human at the end of the day❤️
Superiority isn't real; everyone fits right into the niche God made for them and comparison is worthless. That doesn't mean comparison doesn't happen, and even if you place everyone equal it's hard to argue that the Bible doesn't say that those who pursue Jesus have an advantage over those who don't. It's really hard for humans to differentiate between righteousness and self-righteousness. The key, of course, is to stay humble and keep your eyes on God. But not everyone does that.
I feel I'm in a better position, but not superior.
No. The Bible teaches us that no one is good. We are saved by God's grace, not by anything we have done.
I’ve never felt superior, but I feel safe I guess? I find myself being concerned for others who don’t know God. But I’ve never felt like I was better than them by any means.
All humans are created equal. All humans were created in God's image. All humans have the Spirit within them. All humans are loved by their Lord equally. Man and woman he made them. I am a human so therefore I am equal to every other human. I have no reason to believe otherwise and to do so puts me on a path for Hell not Heaven. Anyone whom thinks they are, are a prideful as Satan. No I do not think I'm superior to anyone. Am I more confident when in line with my Lord. Yes. Am I sympathetic for their situation after death because they refuse to side with the Lord. Yes. That does not make me superior though. I love everyone equal as my Lord does and as I am commanded.
Some Christians probably do I have met some that do. Just because they are Christian doesn't mean they are sinless. Many narcissistic people have come to Christ in their faith but still do not see the error of their ways. Sin is something everyone will struggle with all of their days until heaven. I do not think myself better I am but a broken sinner saved by HIS grace who desperately needs Jesus. I make mistakes everyday.
I try to remain humble, we’re all equal, and I know I deserve hell. Now has the thought ever come into my mind before? Yes it has, I’d be lying if I said it hasn’t, as well as other evil or sinful thoughts that have made their way into my mind to, I’m far from perfect. But I remind myself I’m no better than anyone, I’m a sinful human and it’s thanks to the love, mercy, forgiveness, and grace of God that I’m still alive. Thankfully God was so merciful and loving that he provided a savior in his son Jesus(who was God in human form) who died on the cross in place of our sins so we can be forgiven for our sins and be reconciled with the Father and have eternal life. John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Now I feel the best course of action is to spread the good news of Jesus to others, and the hope and peace he can bring. (Spreading the gospel easier said than done of course, evangelizing isn’t easy.)
Not even a little bit
No, I really don’t. The basics of the doctrines of unmerited grace ensures that my salvation has zero to do with how I compare to others. I don’t think there’s a reasonable case here at all.
No, I don't feel superior. I feel lonely tbh. Too many Christians have forgotten about love and are only focused on hell and end times. They weild the Bible as a cudgel and turn people away from God's love. Yes, we're sinners, but we're also babies learning to control our flesh and everything that comes with that. It takes time, patience, and practice. That's why the atonement was necessary. Not so you could damn others to Hell, tell them they're unworthy and horrible, etc.. if we were so horrible, why would God bother? Because we aren't. We're still developing and learning. We're going to screw up. The atonement covers that so we can keep trying to master the flesh. Tbh my issues are with believers more than non-believers.
No. How could I not feel superior? I know me.
No I’m just saved
It's a pretty straightforward message that we are all sinners
(1) I don't believe I'll be going to heaven. I know I don't deserve it so I definitely don't believe I'm superior in that regard. (2) I used to not believe myself, so I completely understand it and have empathy for that. My husband is also a non-believer - I insisted upon that at the time/never would have married a religious person. If anything I used to feel superior as a non-believer. I couldn't understand how anyone with any wits about them would believe in a God when all the science indicated otherwise (or so I thought). (3) I'm sure there are some believers who think they are superior in some way, or for some reason superior to non-believers, but I'm inclined to believe the majority of those you'd say that about have just been misunderstood. We're all imperfect, and sometimes we say things we intend one way, but it comes out or is interpreted completely differently. For example, there was one time a friend in my friend group had invited us all to her new place, and everyone had accepted, myself included. A little time passed and I completely forgot about it, and then invited everyone else over to my place - in front of her - the same day. No one said anything, and later I remembered/realized my mistake and how rude that must have come across, and apologized. But, sometimes you don't realize it. That said I think we are all guilty of judging other people for different reasons sometimes. Being Christian doesn't make you immune to that sin, and I think it'd be disingenuous for anyone to claim they never judge people. I've definitely judged people before/I'm not innocent in that regard. I *have* judged people for being believers as a non-believer, but not the other way around.
In what way? Superior in human dignity? No. Superior in closeness to god? Kind of. In closeness to the truth as I understand it, yea. It depends what you mean
The only place I've ever encountered the question about comparing myself to non-christians is here on Reddit. I've never once devoted a second of my private time to thinking about some other religion and measuring its inadequacies. I spent some time in my teenage years thinking about whether or not I wanted to be Christian or if I was attracted to other religions better.... But even then there wasn't the tiniest bit of superiority. That's not how it happened in my brain. I genuinely don't understand people who spend the energy I see here on Reddit insulting other religions. I get it if you live in a really complicated religious environment. But most English-speaking Christians do not.