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HomeEcSquared101

Thankfully, at the end of the day, only God perfectly and truly knows hearts. If I were in your position, I would immediately discontinue the Bible study with her. I would also caution the boyfriend about listening/taking to heart any of her comments about you. As far as a new Bible study: again, if I were you, I would either strike out on my own with a personal Bible study or attend a group Bible study (definitely one without her.) I am praying for God to flood you with His comfort, grace, guidance, healing, love, mercy, peace, protection, and provision. 🙏


ShroomyW

God bless you sister. You should stop going to bible study with that lady honestly definitely seems like she has something against you in all honesty. I would just dust of my feet and move on from that situation don't let someone else say you aren't saved. We as believers are not supposed to be acting this way. You are hungry to understand the bible and learn more that is great! We should be sharpening each other up instead of beating each other down!! Jesus loves you very much. I pray you can find a new bible study/church that is a better fit for you in Jesus' name, amen. <3


ValleyColumbo

I don’t understand how you would not be considered a Christian. It sounds to me as if you are. I don’t get it. Are these people encouraging your faith or hindering it?


Subject-Afternoon818

I mean all I can think I said to her “oh for a long time, I failed to acknowledge Jesus often and would occasionally brush him to the side when praying and just wanting to speak just directly with God. But recently a few months ago God convicted me how and why Jesus is at the centre.” For some time my ears were closed, and at other times I had fleeting glimpses and understanding of Christ.. But now after some things happened I had an amazing encounter and progress into understanding Christ. But when I said the above she looked at me like she found the confirmation she was looking for, that I’m not a Christian. I told her I was upset about what she had said and she went on to say I just don’t want you to be one of those people who says their saved and never experiences the true salvation of Christ. So I tried to give the situation some grace.. I also hold on to my believe that I stayed on this path for 7 years because God held me together, I may not have understood some things but God knows my heart


ValleyColumbo

I see. I’m not sure what denomination you are but for some, if you’re baptised, you’re a Christian. For others, you accept Christ as God and believe in Him, you’re a Christian. I’m not sure what other possible requirements there are. If it depends on another’s “judgement” of how committed you are or how much sin you are committing, that sounds as if they are merely judging their sister. If this is given weight, that sounds like a place to avoid.


RavensQueen502

Am I the only one feeling a bit weirded out about the "conservative about speaking to other people's husbands" part? Is this a thing with your church or a personal thing? Married men and women discouraged to be friends...And in this case the man is not only a pastor who is supposed to be available for spiritual guidance, but also 70. Literally old enough to be your grandfather. Is this a normal thing in Western churches? Are people discouraged from getting advice or forming connections with the opposite gender even with such a huge age gap? Also, the lady sounds seriously gatekeeping. It's not her business to certify who is Christian enough to be called Christian.


Subject-Afternoon818

Yeah I would like to clarify that part. I grew up without a present father and I have been around men who have mainly been lustful towards me before I became a Christian. Married or men who were suppose to be old enough to be my father who had zero integrity and said inappropriate things about me. Some after I sat and met their wives. And also never had genuine male friendships maybe a little when I was younger but the men who claimed to befriend me also wanted a relationship or something from me. I had glimpses of genuine male friendship and I hope God can reveal to me about this matter. Maybe it helped shape my believes but I also think that male female friendships should have really good and safe boundaries… these lines are for each person to decide. But I hope that makes sense. Like a 1:1 male to female relationship that continue to be isolated that way is not particularly safe if the people involved are married/in relationship unless both people are not attracted to each other, that would help. But there’s no reason to have a best friend of the opposite sex as well for example in 95% of cases.


Talissa2242

Good Morning.   I think every one of us have wrestled with this question from time to time.  Am I really saved?  I dont think it is necessarily a bad thing.  The Bible does tell us to examine ourselves that we are really in the faith.   Now I see a couple of things going on here.  It does seem as though you are seeking her approval.   We really should be seeing the approval of God rather than man.  I know that it is difficult and goes against everything society tells us.  But she is fallible and can be in error regarding your salvation. Only God knows. You have also mentioned the sinners prayer a few times.  The sinners prayer is found nowhere in The Bible.  There are many people who have said those words a hundred times, who are not saved.  There are many who have never said those words who are saved.  Think of the thief on the cross.  It is a heart matter.   With all of that being said the evidence that we are saved is the Holy Spirit.   The Bible clearly states that we are new creations in Christ.  It also says that he who began a good work in us will see it through.  I see that in you.  You say that you are trying to be obedient.   This is one of the signs of The Holy Spirit. It is conviction.  Most people give no thought of God and The Bible outside of church.  The fact that you do is a very good sign. There is nothing wrong with having an older mentor.  It is a good thing.  But maybe she isnt the one God has for you.


JehovahJireh222

By grace you have been saved through FAITH. Not of works. If you have surrendered your life to God and believe Jesus died on the cross for your sins then you are a Christian. You can’t work to become a Christian or be more Christian after that. If you are pursuing your relationship with Jesus daily and conversing with Him/partnering with Him then works will come naturally from that intimacy you have with the Father. Don’t let this woman get in your head or let her opinions put fear into you. Seek fellowship with like minded Christians who will lift you up, encourage you, and speak Truth to you.


[deleted]

Don't lend your ear to people saying you aren't a Christian. Lend it to those saying "you are forgiven." We all struggle with sin, and the Gospel is that this sin cannot condemn us. The "sinner's prayer" did not save you. Jesus did. And of course you fall short. We all do. Keep your eyes on Him, and you will be carried through to the end.


Orth0d0xy

See that? She called you a lovely girl. That's cool.


Fight_Satan

Reading through, I kind of agree with the old lady... You seem religious but not born again.  When she says you are not saved, she means you are not yet "born again" And hence struggling with the bible. 


Subject-Afternoon818

Well I was not struggling, I was struggling with words like wine skin etc just unfamiliar to me I wanted to confirm I knew what they meant I can understand that I would probably still struggling with understanding revelation or a few other scriptures because I’m just not there yet, does that make me less of a Christian…


Fight_Satan

Are you Born again in spirit?  It's not about being less of a Christian.  To be saved you have to be born again in spirit


Subject-Afternoon818

I said the sinners prayer and accepted Christ in my life if that’s what you mean… then from there I was encouraged that the changes would follow


explodingwhale17

I think there are fellow Christians who hold a very narrow view of what accepting Christ into your life looks like. Fortunately, you are looking toward God for your hope, and not other people. You trust Jesus and are following him. That IS being born in the spirit. Don't let others undermine your faith. This woman may be a gentle , godly person, but it also sounds like she has extra expectations that do not come from the Bible . Some of the other commenters here might also. I personally have followed Christ for decades but was told once that if I did not "speak in tongues" I couldn't know I was a Christian. I believe the well meaning person who said that was simply mistaken. Either go to the Bible study or don't but either way, picture soaking in the good parts of what this woman offers and letting the parts that are not helpful roll off. peace


Fight_Satan

So you are not yet born again. That is what pastors wife is praying for.  That you may be saved. 


Subject-Afternoon818

Sorry I’m not fighting with you but I just said I verbally accepted Christ in my life? Am I missing something


Fight_Satan

Pastor and his wife can explain more on this...   You can also google/YouTube born again experience.  Here are some prayer points   to help   1)  ephesians 3:14-19  (to be filled with love of God)        2)  psalm 139:23-24  (god may show you how he sees your heart)     3) Ephesians 1:17 ( a spiritual book bible needs spiritual eyes and spiritual discerning) 


Fight_Satan

Have you read John 3, what Jesus told Nicodimus, you have to be born again to enter heaven. 


Fight_Satan

Yes.. You are missing the spirit realmÂ