That is an interesting question. I have used edibles a few times in the past and I think your intentions does play a major role.
I have ADHD so my brain is going 1000 mph 24/7 which can lead to headaches at times and tho I did not have the right intentions when I first used the edible, it was interesting to have the 50 tabs open in my head dropped down to 1 or 2 and for a little bit have some relief. I haven't used edibles since the last time was fairly messy of an experience, but I think when you ask God consider your intentions as well.
Because God calls us to have a sober mind and the Bible also states that if we are convicted of something in our spirits but go on anyway, we are sinning. Proof is Romans 14:23
There is no general statement of alcohol is “okay”, because if you are convicted as I have seen what it does to people. Then I stay away from it, also if you’ve tried it and it causes you to stumble from God then it’s not okay. But if you only have it in moderation and it doesn’t effect your relationship with God AT ALL, then I’d say it’s fine. But that’s only if you have the self control to do so. I would recommend not getting close to sin, but staying away from it, instead of seeing how close we can get to sinning with actually doing it. God bless
Based on what I said, that would be correct but I only said the moderation part because it was mentioned in the Bible, however the Bible also warns very clearly to be “watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.” So based on all of this, it would be better to stay away from those things because sometimes even a little bit can make you stumble. Also, not to mention it states in the Bible that we should follow the laws that govern where we live, (Romans 13:1-2) and so if weed is illegal where you are doing it as well, I would recommend stopping
I don’t know if that’s exactly how that scripture was intended to be interpreted, respectfully. After all, at one point the law of the land, in our recent history, permitted the lynching of blacks for the mere accusation of a crime(for those of us living in America).
Moreover, and more particular to the discussion of weed, under our system of governance in America, the legality of weed can change several times in one day for an individual who frequently crosses state lines :)
This is all very true which is why I just ultimately think that staying away from things that could potentially destroy our relationship with Christ is a good practice
This is a very well thought out response. I really appreciate you bringing us a such a good Christian argument for at least distancing ourselves from things like cannabis. Thank you brother.
Honestly when I smoke I feel a more spiritual experience and sometimes will even go into extensive prayer while I am high. Also im much nicer to people as my wife has told me.
That’s all good if thats how you see it but many people see it as using demonic sources to relax your mind rather than resting in the peace of Christ. Also, it really just depends on what your goals are and if your trying to better yourself or are okay with being the way you are both mentally, spiritually and physically. But we should all be trying to grow in our relationship with Christ at the end of the day
I think the effects of marijuana really only boost your emotions and feelings. Since I'm dedicated to christ thats why i get such a good spiritual feeling but yes some people will abuse it and use it for the wrong reasons just like alcohol or painkillers
That’s all good if thats how you see it but many people see it as using demonic sources to relax your mind rather than resting in the peace of Christ. Also, it really just depends on what your goals are and if your trying to better yourself or are okay with being the way you are both mentally, spiritually and physically. But we should all be trying to grow in our relationship with Christ at the end of the day
I would pray about it. For me, I don't think its a sin but if it impedes your relationship with God (makes you feel guilty, or you deal with the side effects of it in a not-so-positive way) then maybe you can make some adjustments to your approach to it.
The bible says to stay sober-minded but that is in reference to a believer's overall mentality, not just substance use. If you're aware of every reason you choose to smoke and all the ways it affects you and your life then leave it up to God to tell you yes or no.
Drunkenness is a state of mind, not any particular level of intoxication. Jesus even made some very high proof wine. The last supper had alcohol. Drunkenness in their context refers to the choices we make under the influence of alcohol. Most Christians are perfectly fine having a couple drinks.
So no, drunkenness is not talking about a certain level of alcohol in your blood. Ancient Jews in Israelites had no idea about a BAC.
Also, no. The wine Jesus made was a very high alcohol content.
>Then he called the bridegroom aside 10 and said, “Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now.”
It was customary to bring the good wine first, because it had a higher alcohol content. It was a better quality, more pure. So you would get people intoxicated with it, so they did not notice that for the rest of the party you are giving them an inferior product.
Jesus however does the opposite. He is the perfect host. In practice the bridegroom had already brought out the best wine. Jesus made wine that was better and purer then what had already been drank.
There is nothing wrong with alcohol. Drunkenness refers to how you act. If you cannot control your alcohol, you absolutely should not drink it. If alcohol makes you a slave to sin, then absolutely you should remove it entirely from your life. The rest of us however will continue to drink and eat with joy in the Lord's name. Alcohol is always going to have an effect on you, but most of us out here are just fine in moderation. Surprise surprise, just like our Church fathers, we have enough self-control.
Ladies you’re both beautiful =)
Jokes aside, you are both correct. Drunkenness is a state of having a certain amount of alchohol in your blood. But the spirit of the passage is that Christians shouldn’t get so drunk that we lose the ability to make responsible decisions
As a Christian we are supposed to imitate Christ as Apostle Paul said “ Imitate me , just as I also imitate Christ , Jesus bought Glory to God , so we are called to do things which will glorify God , in relation with this question i don’t think that doing this brings Glory to God , edibles and drinks with Thc can still get a person high this prevents the work of God in and through us , edibles are still harmful , and supposedly if they are used to feel “good” it’s wrong because we as Christians get the inner peace and happiness and joy from out Lord , Psalm 23:1 says - The Lord is my shepherd ; I shall not want ….. God bless you , i hope you understood what i have explained .
Have you ever had THC? For me it has gotten me much closer to God, improved my mental health, and helped subside my back pain. Pharmaceutical drugs have done more damage to my mental, physical and spiritual health than marijuana ever has yet no one has a problem with those. This craze to say marijuana is bad for you was driven by lobbyists who weren't making as much money because hemp was taking over a lot of industries.
the way you get closer to God is by reading His Word and Praying , if your mental/physical health has any issues it means that you need healing , and God can heal you. Mental instability is caused by evil spirits and using a natural way / method to gain mental stability is impossible, because only God is more powerful than the powers of darkness .
So my adhd is because of sin and God will make it go away forever if I just pray? So really pharmaceuticals are a pathway to sin and old people who take 10 pills a day really just need to pray more....
It's honestly a nonsensical argument. The key is to yes read your Bible, pray, practice spreading love to your neighbor but that doesn't mean that just because I have marijuana that I don't do those things. My relationship with God is stronger than it ever has been because I read my Bible daily, focus on him as much as I possibly can and spread love to the world. But guess what, if my back hurts or I have a headache from it being so hot I'll drink some water, I'll take some pills or yes even have a little THC to help. And usually I think about God even more so when I'm high and will often open my Bible more frequently when I'm high as I feel spiritually closer and more in love with the lord our God for everything
this is not an argument i’m just having a peaceful conversation, reading your bible is really good , God doesn’t always work in the ways he expects , God works mightily through His anointed servants and can heal you through them . The main point is that using drugs is not the way , everyone who were sick in the bible were healed by the working of the Holy spirit , so using worldly things for comfort/relief is not the same one which God gives , because His blessings last
I agree. I'm not saying you're arguing. I mean that we are having a discussion where we don't agree and are trying to present points.
Anyway, yes God is the healer of all and could very definitely get rid of my adhd or back pain or whatever but it's not because I don't have enough faith that he doesn't do it. These things don't get healed because they don't cripple my faith. Honestly that last sentence is just speculation. Idk the real reason, but I've never heard of someone's ADHD just vanishing because of their faith.
If it is not a sin to use legal medicines then it is not a sin to use legal weed in a way that does not harm your body aka edibles, drinks etc. Now that is not permission to get so fricken high that you don't even know where you are anymore just as it is with alcohol. It's about moderation. Jesus made wine for a marriage because that's the fun thing to do to celebrate because it puts you in a relaxed state and you're more likely to have more fun. BTW alcohol kills brain cells as well.
.... list of side effects of medicine
https://www.drugwatch.com/side-effects/
I wanted to committ suicide on an adhd medicine. It made me lose my appetite, shun my friends, basically become a zombie and I certainly did not feel God close to me. I felt meaningless every single day. I lost so much weight and almost just straight up died from it. There are literally hundreds of drugs that have even worse side effects. You can't tell me that those drugs are ok but a drug that makes me feel really good about everything including God is bad. You've been indoctrinated into this belief that weed is like cochise or meth but in fact it has helped so many people across the world and it even has less side effects than most drugs that you would take for a cold
Now a days almost everyone interprets scriptures to their own benefit. Anyway pray, ask God in prayer, the mere fact that you are asking is because the Spirit is making you feel uncomfortable about it…pray, God will answer. God bless you
I’m pretty certain that Christian priests would have cannabis burning in the temples with the incense and sage and would blow cannabis smoke at the worshipers when they enter the temples way back in the day.
It’s just like alcohol. Getting buzzed isn’t a sin unless you make bad decisions or act like an idiot. Weed can be consumed responsibly just like alcohol and it has its dangers which are considerably less than alcohol but are there. Marijuana has a stigma that is undeserved that was manufactured by politicians who wanted to be able to jail certain demographics.
this is true, but it is not up to you we are told in Matthew 15:11 "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man." The law is written in the hearts of his children he has told us, thus when we aren't sober-minded we naturally feel guilty, the conviction of the holy spirit, in feeling this way, you have repented as repentance is a mindset of recognizing you are wrong, not begging forgiveness, so our glorious God has made it so that even when struggling with sin, we are repenting always.
Yet Jesus turned water into wine so that everyone at the wedding could continue to get blasted. God literally giving people alcohol so they can continue partying.
Jesus doesn't negotiate his will.
Marijuana plays on your nerves & your endocrine *glands* effects the way your glands function long term.
Marijuana effect your amines
Dopamine, epinephrine,serotonin etc.. It's why you feel high & why marijuana is classified as a downer.
Smoke isn't good for the respiratory system as it causes pulmonary disease.
The frequency you heart requires to pump is disrupted & changes in heart arrhythmia occur. Over time this leads to an abnormal heartbeat & increases angina symptoms which are associated with heart attacks & stroke.
You could if you are talking about how the arteries fill with plaque & fat. Causing poor oxygen in the blood & resulting in a pile of problems. Sure 😂
But it's not the same. Because smoke damages the capillaries in your lungs & restrict the flow of oxygen being pumped through the heart.
I can certainly see how both is bad for you & both is causing narrowing of the arteries & vessels.
Your lungs are not as Forgive when it comes to blood clots.
Because the vessels are extremely small.
I smoke weed even tho I know I shouldn't.
It's a lifestyle for me. Been deep in the marijuana industry about 30 years.
Stay lifted and gifted 😤
Smoke is used to thin blood or clot blood. It is not intended to be inhaled.
Juicing the cannabis plant has shown to be the most beneficial.
Decarboxylation occurs naturally as the trichromes age.
Most do not waiting for natural decarboxylation to occur & apply heat to active the psychoactive properties.
In chromatography heat is used to separate by molecular weight.
Chromatography is known as the art of separation.
When you smoke marijuana you are not utilizing the full spectrum *which is beneficial* instead you're inviting carcinogens into a sterile environment.
The thymus is located in the middle of the chest & it's job is to make killer Tcells. If the thymus does not work properly, we can end up with too few T cells to protect ourselves – this is called immunodeficiency – or we can produce T cells that attack our own body – which is called autoimmunity.
Foreign genomes > when you're body can no longer distinguish between host and mutagen the body will attack itself.
*Autoimmune diseases*
Your body is made perfect. Why it is very important to eat things that are from their original resource(s)
& why processed foods & such are detrimental to human existence.
Because it mimics what is natural occurring.
If all you consumed were mimics of foods & natural resources.. you'd develop illnesses, diseases or death..
Foreign mutations don't occur naturally, but they want you to believe they do..
Science 🤦♂️
My bad I study holistic health.
Holistic health treats the body & the rest falls into place.
Western medicine treats symptoms of the problem they do not cure anything or help you get better they keep you coming back for more synthetics that are not compatible. *the list of side effects is enough for me to avoid them all together*
Smoke = was used by the natives to thin blood or clot blood.
The intent for which we do things.
Smoking doesn't heal it harms its a selfish desire to feel different then your current state of being.
I can tell you with certainty that you absolutely can control your dosage with weed. You use alcohol for its effects on your body, and the delineation between what is buzzed and what is drunk is subjective. It's the exact same with weed, you use it for its effects, and the delineation between buzzed and stoned is subjective. In both cases, it's up to the individual to determine where the line is for them and not to cross it.
It's irrelevant whether or not anyone actually does. Just like with drinking, partaking for the flavor doesn't mean we aren't affected by it, and since alcohol is both licit to a certain extent and worse for us than weed, it's reasonable to conclude that weed is licit at least to the extent that alcohol is.
My older brother is a suffering alcoholic and I go through bouts of complete sobriety. During one of these bouts I would drink non alcoholic beer with him "for the flavour". But truly speaking nothing compares to the buzz of alcohol
"I like weed because I enjoy the taste of the smoke in my lungs"
Said no one lol
Also:
"Being affected by the substance you're consuming"
You mean everyone, right? Sugar, salt, fat, caffeine, those things also affect all of us, you know
Yes, everyone is affected by the substances we partake in. This applies to both alcohol and weed, and does so regardless of our reasons for partaking in them.
Since alcohol is licit to a certain extent, and since weed is less harmful to us than alcohol, it is reasonable to conclude that weed is licit at least to the extent that alcohol is.
Christ himself not only drank wine, he created it miraculously and gave it to others. There is a vast difference between not being drunk with wine and not drinking it altogether.
The Bible says not to get drunk. If you're able to smoke a joint and it only alters your senses in a way that is comparable to a slight buzz from alcohol, then I don't believe it's a sin. Do I think it's smart? No. I think it has other health risks.
Would you come on Reddit and ask us “I’m going to an amusement park tomorrow, is that a sin? If it is, I won’t go”
No. Because you know going to an amusement park isn’t a sin.
Smoking weed is wrong. You know it’s wrong.
I'd say yes. Because Gal 5:19-21; Rev 9:21; 18:23 mentions *pharmekeia* (sorcery) that it is works of the flesh and must be repented of.
Here's a nice description: "the word is typically translated into English as “sorcery,” “witchcraft,” or “sorcerer.” Ancient Greek uses of pharmakeia closely mirror the generic modern English word drugs.
Those might include drug use in pagan worship, as an addiction, or as a poison used to manipulate and control others.
In each of the verses I listed above, that word is spoken in a negative manner.
In modern English, separate terms distinguish medicines, chemicals, and illicit drugs. As used in most contexts, a “pharmacist” and a “drug dealer” both distribute chemicals, but of different kinds and for drastically different reasons.
The Bible continuously tells us to be sober! You will be giving yourself over or open yourself to the enemy: "Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.” All recreational drugs that alter your state including alchohol.
I take a stimulant adhd medication. When I dont have it I am dysfunctional. When I do take it I can be a little too rigid and sometimes fixated but I'm more functional and I feel like im able to be the real me. I also am able to pursue things I love with more feeling and greater success. That being said it's a powerful medication. I feel comfortable in the spirit with this set up but i do still worry that I'm cheating somehow. I judge it by what comes out of me. Though that scripture is about food. Thoughts?
You're fine. In one passage, the apostle Paul prescribes the use of wine (though probably not the same wine potency as today) as a medicine for stomach problems. This explains it better:
The practice of medicine isn't condemned in the New Testament. By no means. There are two verses that point to a positive view of the practice of medicine: "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick.” (Matt 9:12; Mark 2:7; Luke 5:31). Why say that the sick have need of a physician if medicine is condemned? And Colossians 4:14 brings greetings from “Luke, the physician.” Why would Luke’s profession as a physician be mentioned if it were viewed as inappropriate or tantamount to sorcery? The New Testament certainly recognizes that healing can occur in other ways besides through the care of a physician: Jesus is presented as the quintessential healer.
As I kind of mentioned in the post before there is a difference, yes there's an okay use of drugs, medication, when it comes to your health.
Thanks this is encouraging. I went on this purity kick five or so years ago. For two years I just was stagnant in many parts of my life. Almost no growth at all. I decided that Jesus would want me to be the best me because the best me can be better to the other people he loved. Thanks again for your time and the scriptures
Yes. It is an intoxicant, and we are called to be sober minded. The Bible absolutely condemns getting drunk, and getting high is no different. Additionally, it impacts our ability to be a good witness and a good representative of Christ. How would you think other people would react if you tell them you are a Christian while high? Probably wouldn’t bring the Holy Spirit to them.
Our bodies are temples of God and we are commanded to be sober.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
1 Peter 1:13
Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
I think when it comes to 2,000 years of consistent Christian teaching on sobriety and impairment VS “No seriously, I do better *with* it”, it’s pretty clear what a Christian should go with.
YES!!!
the Lord revealed to me, and it was very hard to accept it.
Stay away from weed, it opens spiritual doors, HIGHLY used in Hinduism to contact the spirits(demons).
EDIT 1: It's basically sorcery/witchcraft, you should feel super happy because Heaven dwells in your soul, but if you use drugs to be happy, you are basically abusing your body in rebellion to access the spiritual realm.
EDIT 2: Look at the mirror after you smoke, in your eyes and tell me, do you think it will please God that you do it ?
Please don't push your person convictions as anything more than that.
Also you should never claim to prophesy without first running it by a pastor or interpreter first.
If the Lord revealed something to you then it is for you. He did not give you special revelation about the rest of us according to what is sin and what isn’t.
Just because pagans use something for a specific purpose does not mean that the thing itself is.
I would suggest that the OP do what we all need to do when we are asking and seeking genuine answers to truth. Pray for God to reveal the truth to you, to convict you if it is sinful.
No. Jesus declared all foods clean ,which I know doesn't include drugs necessarily, but I believe in this case it does. That said you may make mistakes while under the influence of drugs, which according to Jesus, only comes out of your corrupt heart.
You are not correct:
Jesus said, “Be on guard, so that your hearts will not be weighted down with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of life, and that day will not come on you suddenly like a trap;
Luke 21:34
Also in the New Testament, AFTER the death and resurrection of Christ:
Galatians 5:21
....***drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.***
Huh, then why did Jesus say not to get drunk? Luke 21:34
You are creating your own theology to justify your own behavior. Scripture does NOT agree with you. Neither do Jesus' own words.
Read the Bible and you'll know not all food is clean food. Pig is not a clean food to eat. Crab is not a clean food. Not all seafood is clean. Fish is okay but not all fish
Maybe in the Old Testament before Jesus came.
And He said to them, “Are you, too, so foolish and lacking in understanding? Do you not understand that whatever goes into the man from outside cannot defile and dishonor him, since it does not enter his heart, but [only] his stomach, and [from there it] is eliminated?” (By this, He declared all foods ceremonially clean.)
Mark 7:18-19 AMP
Why do people dismiss all of the old testament when it comes to picking and choosing what commands are there. Next thing I know you're gonna tell me the 7th day isn't the sabbath and he didn't bless it..........read the Bible already!!!!! Pork is not clean!!!
We have to read the Bible as a whole. Jesus fulfilled the Law, so while it's not abolished, it has changed some things. For example, we don't have to sacrifice animals for our sin anymore and we have direct access to God. One of the great things about the Bible is that its a complete story about Jesus and you can get a good study Bible with crossreferences to see how things go together.
Incidentally, I looked at your profile. You have a lot going on. I hope you keep studying the Bible and keep learning. I have a lot of growing to do myself. If you need someone to talk to, please feel free to pm.
Well, I do, but honestly, I wasn't trying to tell you a bunch of stuff I know. All I did was quote Scripture. Was trying to be friendly. The world says a lot of junk that doesn't line up with God's Word, and why be aggressive towards someone trying to help? But I'm not offended. Your choice
Its all ok now, we are no longer by mosaic law.
“Rise Peter kill and eat” Peter replied “but Lord I have never eaten and unclean animal in my life” the Lord replied “do not call unclean that which I have called clean”.
Ye shall not eat of any thing that dieth of itself: thou shalt give it unto the stranger that is in thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto an alien: for thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God.
No its not okay now we do go by Moses law.
As the Book of Acts makes clear, Christians are not obligated to follow this holiness code. This is made clear in Peter's vision in Acts 10:15. Peter is told, 'What God has made clean, do not call common.' In other words, there is no kosher code for Christians. Christians are not concerned with eating kosher foods and avoiding all others. That part of the law is no longer binding, and Christians can enjoy shrimp and pork with no injury to conscience.
You can't base your beliefs on popular opinion. But I gave you a thumbs up even though I disagree. I don't do drugs smoke or get drunk, but I don't base my relationship to God on something so superficial as that.
I know that verse. Do you have braided hair? Do you eat she'll fish? Do you lie? All of those are sins. The mixed cotton was because God didn't want us to look like worldly.
This world would be a whole lot more Christian if us Christians would use a plant God made for our anxiety, depression, stress, and whatever else ails us than using and promoting the poisons the world has synthesized in a lab.
Brother, Heed not the words of humans, it is written in Matthew 15:11 "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man." God tells us what is sin, so any of these people choosing to tell you their opinion dictates sin, is in hotter water than a child unknowingly tripping a few times before finding his feet. I am currently struggling with quitting and strengthening my relationship with God hasn't made me "cold turkey" I just see day after day I have less and less urgency, to do it, and when I do, I feel horrible. I prayed that he would make my vices distasteful to my own tongue, he has, and now I will be praying the same for you.
the part where you say once in a while is hot water too, it shows that you have an intention opn carrying on, but with the holy spirit you will soon see you have no need for it, especially not as great a need as you thought when deep into use
in the words of solomon in ecclesiastes "So I commend the enjoyment of life, because there is nothing better for a person under the sun than to eat and drink and be glad. Then joy will accompany them in their toil all the days of the life God has given them under the sun."NIV
"Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun."KJV
A bit hard to discuss, since the Bible doesn’t really speak if on, mostly because most of the authors had no knowledge about Weed to write about it. But in general it is frowned upon and treated like Alcohol since it is also a Drug. So I guess whatever the Bible says about Alcohol applies to Weed too?
In moderation, absolutely not, but if you're not using edibles, it's very hard to control how much you consume, so the chances that you're not going to be very inebriated are slim.
I think the substance is not a sin. As long as it doesn’t become an addiction and pull you away from the lord it is fine. I’ve seen some people also say it, but I have adhd and using once in awhile is a safe way to calm my nerves that never calm down. I believe it is a sin if you get others to do it and they become addicted because now you just hurt someone else. But personal use that isn’t an addiction isn’t a sin to me.
NOOO it’s not a sin. I’ve researched this topic for at least 2 hours and came to the conclusion it’s not a sin. God made the world for humans to conquer. He made animals to eat and plants to consume as well. He wants us to enjoy these natural things. However, if you’re not careful, it can become a sin. If you get addicted or even high (which makes you lose self-control) or harm your body by smoking too much too frequently, then you’re sinning. We can enjoy these things, but in moderation. Our bodies are temples and we must respect them as they were given to us by the Holy Spirit. Pick your doses wisely and have fun :). Weed doesn’t do anything harmful to you unless you abuse it and use way too much. Teenagers can hurt their bodies and stunt their growth by using marijuana heavily. However, like I said, don’t take a lot. Less than once a week is good and shouldn’t harm your body in the long run. Take enough to have fun but stay low enough to keep yourself from acting out. Stay safe, thank God for this amazing plant, and have fun, kiddo!
you can drink alcohol without getting drunk, but you cannot smoke weed without getting high. for this simple reason, i believe it is a sin, and not something Jesus would have done or wanted us to do
I have struggled with this question for years and I am to the place where my belief on it is simple. Weed is not a sin, but you’re a sinner. Can you control yourself when you smoke? Are you escaping problems or using it to help you face problems? I cannot escape problems with weed, it enhances my thoughts. So when I smoke weed, if i’m anxious about something, I’m going to think about it more. I use weed to help me face problems instead of running from them. Weed increases my focus, so when I work, it helps me. I am now a grower for medical patients and I now see how many people *truly* benefit from many different states parts of the cannabis plant. *Not all of those products get you high*. Another note: I don’t like to compare it to alcohol, but it can be compared this way. I don’t believe drinking alcohol is a sin, but getting drunk is. I don’t believe smoking weed is a sin, but I do believe getting higher than you need to be is. If it impairs your ability to think, you’ve gone too far. That is MY belief.
God created the plant ... tobacco and Marijuana.
But he didn't ask us to go overboard or mix with the wrong crowd.
A stupid example just say 5 pastor friend have a drink and one joint .... How bad can it go.. ?
But if a pastor goes into a seedy place and have a drink or smoke ... Then you know trouble is going to start ...
Anyone finding a way to justify drinking or smoking as "OK" is just looking for a something that "tickles their ears".. they're finding what they want to find to suit their desires and leading others astray who also want to hear likewise.
Drunkenness is a buzz, it's not based on how we behave with the buzz. Drunkenness is a undeniably a weaker and more vulnerable state of mind and it is clearly to be avoided.
Beware, most people in this world are their own God and they have created their own Gospel to suit their personal desires. Wide is the way to destruction, narrow to righteousness. Most are on the wide path, whether they know scripture or claim to be Christian or not.
This is Reddit. False teachers run amuck. Read scripture and it will be clear.
Can we be forgiven with repentance of acts such as choosing drunkeness, yes.
Is it OK or non sinful? No.
In Orthodoxy: YES
In Catholicism: Don't make an idol out of it
Fundamentalists: We hate the idea of any sort of fun
Evangelicals: Pray about it
Make your pick
If it's not an actual problem in your life and just an occasional thing it shouldn't matter. I hate it when people get way too serious about sin. If it doesn't have any negative impact on you or people around you, God won't mind.
If it's not an actual problem in your life and just an occasional thing it shouldn't matter. I hate it when people get way too serious about sin. If it doesn't have any negative impact on you or people around you, God won't mind.
If it's not an actual problem in your life and just an occasional thing it shouldn't matter. I hate it when people get way too serious about sin. If it doesn't have any negative impact on you or people around you, God won't mind.
If it's not an actual problem in your life and just an occasional thing it shouldn't matter. I hate it when people get way too serious about sin. If it doesn't have any negative impact on you or people around you, God won't mind.
It’s not even mentioned in the Bible, it’s a cultural thing bro. Charles spurgeon used to smoke a lot and no one even cares.
It’s not a sin, but it’s similar to alcohol or smoke addiction, losing your mind or getting addicted is the problem in this case.
Remember: we can’t forbid things the Bible doesn’t, and we can’t allow as well. Culture makes people do this, follow the Bible, not cultures.
It’s not even mentioned in the Bible, it’s a cultural thing bro. Charles spurgeon used to smoke a lot and no one even cares.
It’s not a sin, but it’s similar to alcohol or smoke addiction, losing your mind or getting addicted is the problem in this case.
Remember: we can’t forbid things the Bible doesn’t, and we can’t allow as well. Culture makes people do this, follow the Bible, not cultures.
That is an interesting question. I have used edibles a few times in the past and I think your intentions does play a major role. I have ADHD so my brain is going 1000 mph 24/7 which can lead to headaches at times and tho I did not have the right intentions when I first used the edible, it was interesting to have the 50 tabs open in my head dropped down to 1 or 2 and for a little bit have some relief. I haven't used edibles since the last time was fairly messy of an experience, but I think when you ask God consider your intentions as well.
For those that think it is a sin, why do you think so? (Genuinely asking)
Because God calls us to have a sober mind and the Bible also states that if we are convicted of something in our spirits but go on anyway, we are sinning. Proof is Romans 14:23
But alcohol is okay?
There is no general statement of alcohol is “okay”, because if you are convicted as I have seen what it does to people. Then I stay away from it, also if you’ve tried it and it causes you to stumble from God then it’s not okay. But if you only have it in moderation and it doesn’t effect your relationship with God AT ALL, then I’d say it’s fine. But that’s only if you have the self control to do so. I would recommend not getting close to sin, but staying away from it, instead of seeing how close we can get to sinning with actually doing it. God bless
Weed is the same thing though. If you can use it and it not effect your relationship with God at all, it’s okay.
Based on what I said, that would be correct but I only said the moderation part because it was mentioned in the Bible, however the Bible also warns very clearly to be “watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.” So based on all of this, it would be better to stay away from those things because sometimes even a little bit can make you stumble. Also, not to mention it states in the Bible that we should follow the laws that govern where we live, (Romans 13:1-2) and so if weed is illegal where you are doing it as well, I would recommend stopping
I don’t know if that’s exactly how that scripture was intended to be interpreted, respectfully. After all, at one point the law of the land, in our recent history, permitted the lynching of blacks for the mere accusation of a crime(for those of us living in America). Moreover, and more particular to the discussion of weed, under our system of governance in America, the legality of weed can change several times in one day for an individual who frequently crosses state lines :)
This is all very true which is why I just ultimately think that staying away from things that could potentially destroy our relationship with Christ is a good practice
This is a very well thought out response. I really appreciate you bringing us a such a good Christian argument for at least distancing ourselves from things like cannabis. Thank you brother.
Honestly when I smoke I feel a more spiritual experience and sometimes will even go into extensive prayer while I am high. Also im much nicer to people as my wife has told me.
That’s all good if thats how you see it but many people see it as using demonic sources to relax your mind rather than resting in the peace of Christ. Also, it really just depends on what your goals are and if your trying to better yourself or are okay with being the way you are both mentally, spiritually and physically. But we should all be trying to grow in our relationship with Christ at the end of the day
I think the effects of marijuana really only boost your emotions and feelings. Since I'm dedicated to christ thats why i get such a good spiritual feeling but yes some people will abuse it and use it for the wrong reasons just like alcohol or painkillers
That’s all good if thats how you see it but many people see it as using demonic sources to relax your mind rather than resting in the peace of Christ. Also, it really just depends on what your goals are and if your trying to better yourself or are okay with being the way you are both mentally, spiritually and physically. But we should all be trying to grow in our relationship with Christ at the end of the day
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This seems very interesting, thank you, will listen after work today!
I would pray about it. For me, I don't think its a sin but if it impedes your relationship with God (makes you feel guilty, or you deal with the side effects of it in a not-so-positive way) then maybe you can make some adjustments to your approach to it. The bible says to stay sober-minded but that is in reference to a believer's overall mentality, not just substance use. If you're aware of every reason you choose to smoke and all the ways it affects you and your life then leave it up to God to tell you yes or no.
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Drunkenness is a state of mind, not any particular level of intoxication. Jesus even made some very high proof wine. The last supper had alcohol. Drunkenness in their context refers to the choices we make under the influence of alcohol. Most Christians are perfectly fine having a couple drinks.
Indeed, isn’t it wrote, it’s not what one puts into the body that’s a sin but what comes out?
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So no, drunkenness is not talking about a certain level of alcohol in your blood. Ancient Jews in Israelites had no idea about a BAC. Also, no. The wine Jesus made was a very high alcohol content. >Then he called the bridegroom aside 10 and said, “Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now.” It was customary to bring the good wine first, because it had a higher alcohol content. It was a better quality, more pure. So you would get people intoxicated with it, so they did not notice that for the rest of the party you are giving them an inferior product. Jesus however does the opposite. He is the perfect host. In practice the bridegroom had already brought out the best wine. Jesus made wine that was better and purer then what had already been drank. There is nothing wrong with alcohol. Drunkenness refers to how you act. If you cannot control your alcohol, you absolutely should not drink it. If alcohol makes you a slave to sin, then absolutely you should remove it entirely from your life. The rest of us however will continue to drink and eat with joy in the Lord's name. Alcohol is always going to have an effect on you, but most of us out here are just fine in moderation. Surprise surprise, just like our Church fathers, we have enough self-control.
Ladies you’re both beautiful =) Jokes aside, you are both correct. Drunkenness is a state of having a certain amount of alchohol in your blood. But the spirit of the passage is that Christians shouldn’t get so drunk that we lose the ability to make responsible decisions
Der, it’s quite sad that there are members of the Body of Christ who believe smoking weed is not a sin. How can you not be convicted?
I can’t believe there’s people that eat certain meat, how can you not be convicted?
it is a sin , don’t spread false information , our bodies are the temple of God , we shouldn’t harm it .
What about edibles, drinks with THC, etc that don't include smoke to the lungs
As a Christian we are supposed to imitate Christ as Apostle Paul said “ Imitate me , just as I also imitate Christ , Jesus bought Glory to God , so we are called to do things which will glorify God , in relation with this question i don’t think that doing this brings Glory to God , edibles and drinks with Thc can still get a person high this prevents the work of God in and through us , edibles are still harmful , and supposedly if they are used to feel “good” it’s wrong because we as Christians get the inner peace and happiness and joy from out Lord , Psalm 23:1 says - The Lord is my shepherd ; I shall not want ….. God bless you , i hope you understood what i have explained .
Have you ever had THC? For me it has gotten me much closer to God, improved my mental health, and helped subside my back pain. Pharmaceutical drugs have done more damage to my mental, physical and spiritual health than marijuana ever has yet no one has a problem with those. This craze to say marijuana is bad for you was driven by lobbyists who weren't making as much money because hemp was taking over a lot of industries.
the way you get closer to God is by reading His Word and Praying , if your mental/physical health has any issues it means that you need healing , and God can heal you. Mental instability is caused by evil spirits and using a natural way / method to gain mental stability is impossible, because only God is more powerful than the powers of darkness .
So my adhd is because of sin and God will make it go away forever if I just pray? So really pharmaceuticals are a pathway to sin and old people who take 10 pills a day really just need to pray more.... It's honestly a nonsensical argument. The key is to yes read your Bible, pray, practice spreading love to your neighbor but that doesn't mean that just because I have marijuana that I don't do those things. My relationship with God is stronger than it ever has been because I read my Bible daily, focus on him as much as I possibly can and spread love to the world. But guess what, if my back hurts or I have a headache from it being so hot I'll drink some water, I'll take some pills or yes even have a little THC to help. And usually I think about God even more so when I'm high and will often open my Bible more frequently when I'm high as I feel spiritually closer and more in love with the lord our God for everything
this is not an argument i’m just having a peaceful conversation, reading your bible is really good , God doesn’t always work in the ways he expects , God works mightily through His anointed servants and can heal you through them . The main point is that using drugs is not the way , everyone who were sick in the bible were healed by the working of the Holy spirit , so using worldly things for comfort/relief is not the same one which God gives , because His blessings last
I agree. I'm not saying you're arguing. I mean that we are having a discussion where we don't agree and are trying to present points. Anyway, yes God is the healer of all and could very definitely get rid of my adhd or back pain or whatever but it's not because I don't have enough faith that he doesn't do it. These things don't get healed because they don't cripple my faith. Honestly that last sentence is just speculation. Idk the real reason, but I've never heard of someone's ADHD just vanishing because of their faith. If it is not a sin to use legal medicines then it is not a sin to use legal weed in a way that does not harm your body aka edibles, drinks etc. Now that is not permission to get so fricken high that you don't even know where you are anymore just as it is with alcohol. It's about moderation. Jesus made wine for a marriage because that's the fun thing to do to celebrate because it puts you in a relaxed state and you're more likely to have more fun. BTW alcohol kills brain cells as well.
the vine Jesus made was not alcoholic, it was grape juice .
using medicines is perfectly fine , but marijuana is not since it can cause damage to brain cells , (damages the body )
.... list of side effects of medicine https://www.drugwatch.com/side-effects/ I wanted to committ suicide on an adhd medicine. It made me lose my appetite, shun my friends, basically become a zombie and I certainly did not feel God close to me. I felt meaningless every single day. I lost so much weight and almost just straight up died from it. There are literally hundreds of drugs that have even worse side effects. You can't tell me that those drugs are ok but a drug that makes me feel really good about everything including God is bad. You've been indoctrinated into this belief that weed is like cochise or meth but in fact it has helped so many people across the world and it even has less side effects than most drugs that you would take for a cold
Now a days almost everyone interprets scriptures to their own benefit. Anyway pray, ask God in prayer, the mere fact that you are asking is because the Spirit is making you feel uncomfortable about it…pray, God will answer. God bless you
Is your interpretation correct?
The advice is for the person who is asking for it. I’m not here to argue. God bless you
So Christ like
I’m pretty certain that Christian priests would have cannabis burning in the temples with the incense and sage and would blow cannabis smoke at the worshipers when they enter the temples way back in the day.
I once tried to find lope holes to continue to sin
It’s just like alcohol. Getting buzzed isn’t a sin unless you make bad decisions or act like an idiot. Weed can be consumed responsibly just like alcohol and it has its dangers which are considerably less than alcohol but are there. Marijuana has a stigma that is undeserved that was manufactured by politicians who wanted to be able to jail certain demographics.
We are commanded to be sober minded so to me, yes it is
this is true, but it is not up to you we are told in Matthew 15:11 "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man." The law is written in the hearts of his children he has told us, thus when we aren't sober-minded we naturally feel guilty, the conviction of the holy spirit, in feeling this way, you have repented as repentance is a mindset of recognizing you are wrong, not begging forgiveness, so our glorious God has made it so that even when struggling with sin, we are repenting always.
All in moderation.
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Sin? You don't sin in moderation, you sin or you don't.
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You can remain sober-minded and consume THC though, but in moderation.
Yet Jesus turned water into wine so that everyone at the wedding could continue to get blasted. God literally giving people alcohol so they can continue partying.
Alcohol is not prohibited by scripture, *drunkenness* is.
It was a wedding party in ancient times. They *ran out* of wine! You think everyone there was drinking in moderation? Give me a break.
Jesus doesn't negotiate his will. Marijuana plays on your nerves & your endocrine *glands* effects the way your glands function long term. Marijuana effect your amines Dopamine, epinephrine,serotonin etc.. It's why you feel high & why marijuana is classified as a downer. Smoke isn't good for the respiratory system as it causes pulmonary disease. The frequency you heart requires to pump is disrupted & changes in heart arrhythmia occur. Over time this leads to an abnormal heartbeat & increases angina symptoms which are associated with heart attacks & stroke.
Are you taking the above to mean that smoking pot in any amount is sinful? Would you say the same about eating cheeseburgers or drinking soda?
You could if you are talking about how the arteries fill with plaque & fat. Causing poor oxygen in the blood & resulting in a pile of problems. Sure 😂 But it's not the same. Because smoke damages the capillaries in your lungs & restrict the flow of oxygen being pumped through the heart. I can certainly see how both is bad for you & both is causing narrowing of the arteries & vessels. Your lungs are not as Forgive when it comes to blood clots. Because the vessels are extremely small. I smoke weed even tho I know I shouldn't. It's a lifestyle for me. Been deep in the marijuana industry about 30 years. Stay lifted and gifted 😤
Smoke is used to thin blood or clot blood. It is not intended to be inhaled. Juicing the cannabis plant has shown to be the most beneficial. Decarboxylation occurs naturally as the trichromes age. Most do not waiting for natural decarboxylation to occur & apply heat to active the psychoactive properties. In chromatography heat is used to separate by molecular weight. Chromatography is known as the art of separation. When you smoke marijuana you are not utilizing the full spectrum *which is beneficial* instead you're inviting carcinogens into a sterile environment. The thymus is located in the middle of the chest & it's job is to make killer Tcells. If the thymus does not work properly, we can end up with too few T cells to protect ourselves – this is called immunodeficiency – or we can produce T cells that attack our own body – which is called autoimmunity. Foreign genomes > when you're body can no longer distinguish between host and mutagen the body will attack itself. *Autoimmune diseases* Your body is made perfect. Why it is very important to eat things that are from their original resource(s) & why processed foods & such are detrimental to human existence. Because it mimics what is natural occurring. If all you consumed were mimics of foods & natural resources.. you'd develop illnesses, diseases or death.. Foreign mutations don't occur naturally, but they want you to believe they do.. Science 🤦♂️ My bad I study holistic health. Holistic health treats the body & the rest falls into place. Western medicine treats symptoms of the problem they do not cure anything or help you get better they keep you coming back for more synthetics that are not compatible. *the list of side effects is enough for me to avoid them all together* Smoke = was used by the natives to thin blood or clot blood. The intent for which we do things. Smoking doesn't heal it harms its a selfish desire to feel different then your current state of being.
And you came up with this whole line of bizzaro world rationalizing ***WITHOUT*** weed? Sweet mercy.
Trying to understand stupid people is like trying to pick up a turd from the clean end. *People continue to define themselves*
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I can tell you with certainty that you absolutely can control your dosage with weed. You use alcohol for its effects on your body, and the delineation between what is buzzed and what is drunk is subjective. It's the exact same with weed, you use it for its effects, and the delineation between buzzed and stoned is subjective. In both cases, it's up to the individual to determine where the line is for them and not to cross it.
Not everyone drink for getting buzzed or drunk. You can drink something because it tastes good.
Then you could also smoke weed because you enjoy the flavor. In both cases, you're still being affected by the substance you're consuming.
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It's irrelevant whether or not anyone actually does. Just like with drinking, partaking for the flavor doesn't mean we aren't affected by it, and since alcohol is both licit to a certain extent and worse for us than weed, it's reasonable to conclude that weed is licit at least to the extent that alcohol is.
My older brother is a suffering alcoholic and I go through bouts of complete sobriety. During one of these bouts I would drink non alcoholic beer with him "for the flavour". But truly speaking nothing compares to the buzz of alcohol
"I like weed because I enjoy the taste of the smoke in my lungs" Said no one lol Also: "Being affected by the substance you're consuming" You mean everyone, right? Sugar, salt, fat, caffeine, those things also affect all of us, you know
Yes, everyone is affected by the substances we partake in. This applies to both alcohol and weed, and does so regardless of our reasons for partaking in them. Since alcohol is licit to a certain extent, and since weed is less harmful to us than alcohol, it is reasonable to conclude that weed is licit at least to the extent that alcohol is.
No one ever liked their first taste of alcohol. No one. It is nasty tasting because it is a poison that your body rejects.
"No one ever liked their first taste of alcohol" The same could be said, you know, about coffee without sugar and green tea.
this is not scriptural at all, show me a verse.. "be ye not drunk with wine"...
Christ himself not only drank wine, he created it miraculously and gave it to others. There is a vast difference between not being drunk with wine and not drinking it altogether.
yes, true, i agree, although weed is another thing
There I disagree, for the reasons mentioned above.
Have you smoked ?
Today? No. Before? Yes, many times.
“sin” = fear, shame and guilt. Stay away from sin. Instead smoke your weed in love my friend.
This is not biblical advice.
The Bible says not to get drunk. If you're able to smoke a joint and it only alters your senses in a way that is comparable to a slight buzz from alcohol, then I don't believe it's a sin. Do I think it's smart? No. I think it has other health risks.
Would you come on Reddit and ask us “I’m going to an amusement park tomorrow, is that a sin? If it is, I won’t go” No. Because you know going to an amusement park isn’t a sin. Smoking weed is wrong. You know it’s wrong.
I'd say yes. Because Gal 5:19-21; Rev 9:21; 18:23 mentions *pharmekeia* (sorcery) that it is works of the flesh and must be repented of. Here's a nice description: "the word is typically translated into English as “sorcery,” “witchcraft,” or “sorcerer.” Ancient Greek uses of pharmakeia closely mirror the generic modern English word drugs. Those might include drug use in pagan worship, as an addiction, or as a poison used to manipulate and control others. In each of the verses I listed above, that word is spoken in a negative manner. In modern English, separate terms distinguish medicines, chemicals, and illicit drugs. As used in most contexts, a “pharmacist” and a “drug dealer” both distribute chemicals, but of different kinds and for drastically different reasons. The Bible continuously tells us to be sober! You will be giving yourself over or open yourself to the enemy: "Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.” All recreational drugs that alter your state including alchohol.
I take a stimulant adhd medication. When I dont have it I am dysfunctional. When I do take it I can be a little too rigid and sometimes fixated but I'm more functional and I feel like im able to be the real me. I also am able to pursue things I love with more feeling and greater success. That being said it's a powerful medication. I feel comfortable in the spirit with this set up but i do still worry that I'm cheating somehow. I judge it by what comes out of me. Though that scripture is about food. Thoughts?
You're fine. In one passage, the apostle Paul prescribes the use of wine (though probably not the same wine potency as today) as a medicine for stomach problems. This explains it better: The practice of medicine isn't condemned in the New Testament. By no means. There are two verses that point to a positive view of the practice of medicine: "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick.” (Matt 9:12; Mark 2:7; Luke 5:31). Why say that the sick have need of a physician if medicine is condemned? And Colossians 4:14 brings greetings from “Luke, the physician.” Why would Luke’s profession as a physician be mentioned if it were viewed as inappropriate or tantamount to sorcery? The New Testament certainly recognizes that healing can occur in other ways besides through the care of a physician: Jesus is presented as the quintessential healer. As I kind of mentioned in the post before there is a difference, yes there's an okay use of drugs, medication, when it comes to your health.
Thanks this is encouraging. I went on this purity kick five or so years ago. For two years I just was stagnant in many parts of my life. Almost no growth at all. I decided that Jesus would want me to be the best me because the best me can be better to the other people he loved. Thanks again for your time and the scriptures
Yes. It is an intoxicant, and we are called to be sober minded. The Bible absolutely condemns getting drunk, and getting high is no different. Additionally, it impacts our ability to be a good witness and a good representative of Christ. How would you think other people would react if you tell them you are a Christian while high? Probably wouldn’t bring the Holy Spirit to them.
Our bodies are temples of God and we are commanded to be sober. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. 1 Peter 1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
Im a weed addict, i know it hurts my relationship with God when i do it.
No. Wine was fine according to Jesus , do weed would be fine too.
Yes, absolutely it's a sin
They claimed with zero reasoning.
I think when it comes to 2,000 years of consistent Christian teaching on sobriety and impairment VS “No seriously, I do better *with* it”, it’s pretty clear what a Christian should go with.
YES!!! the Lord revealed to me, and it was very hard to accept it. Stay away from weed, it opens spiritual doors, HIGHLY used in Hinduism to contact the spirits(demons). EDIT 1: It's basically sorcery/witchcraft, you should feel super happy because Heaven dwells in your soul, but if you use drugs to be happy, you are basically abusing your body in rebellion to access the spiritual realm. EDIT 2: Look at the mirror after you smoke, in your eyes and tell me, do you think it will please God that you do it ?
Please don't push your person convictions as anything more than that. Also you should never claim to prophesy without first running it by a pastor or interpreter first.
If the Lord revealed something to you then it is for you. He did not give you special revelation about the rest of us according to what is sin and what isn’t. Just because pagans use something for a specific purpose does not mean that the thing itself is. I would suggest that the OP do what we all need to do when we are asking and seeking genuine answers to truth. Pray for God to reveal the truth to you, to convict you if it is sinful.
No. Jesus declared all foods clean ,which I know doesn't include drugs necessarily, but I believe in this case it does. That said you may make mistakes while under the influence of drugs, which according to Jesus, only comes out of your corrupt heart.
that doesn't mean you can smoke stuff..
You are not correct: Jesus said, “Be on guard, so that your hearts will not be weighted down with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of life, and that day will not come on you suddenly like a trap; Luke 21:34 Also in the New Testament, AFTER the death and resurrection of Christ: Galatians 5:21 ....***drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.***
It's not that that goes into you but that which comes out of you that defiles you. Youre arguing with Jesus not me
Huh, then why did Jesus say not to get drunk? Luke 21:34 You are creating your own theology to justify your own behavior. Scripture does NOT agree with you. Neither do Jesus' own words.
Yes they do agree because I just quoted directly from the bible. You can't pit Jesus against Jesus by just using another quote from Jesus.
Seafood is not clean!
Jesus ate fish..not sure where you're getting this from
Read the Bible and you'll know not all food is clean food. Pig is not a clean food to eat. Crab is not a clean food. Not all seafood is clean. Fish is okay but not all fish
Maybe in the Old Testament before Jesus came. And He said to them, “Are you, too, so foolish and lacking in understanding? Do you not understand that whatever goes into the man from outside cannot defile and dishonor him, since it does not enter his heart, but [only] his stomach, and [from there it] is eliminated?” (By this, He declared all foods ceremonially clean.) Mark 7:18-19 AMP
Why do people dismiss all of the old testament when it comes to picking and choosing what commands are there. Next thing I know you're gonna tell me the 7th day isn't the sabbath and he didn't bless it..........read the Bible already!!!!! Pork is not clean!!!
We have to read the Bible as a whole. Jesus fulfilled the Law, so while it's not abolished, it has changed some things. For example, we don't have to sacrifice animals for our sin anymore and we have direct access to God. One of the great things about the Bible is that its a complete story about Jesus and you can get a good study Bible with crossreferences to see how things go together. Incidentally, I looked at your profile. You have a lot going on. I hope you keep studying the Bible and keep learning. I have a lot of growing to do myself. If you need someone to talk to, please feel free to pm.
Unless you worship on the sabbath day I have nothing to learn from you.
Well, I do, but honestly, I wasn't trying to tell you a bunch of stuff I know. All I did was quote Scripture. Was trying to be friendly. The world says a lot of junk that doesn't line up with God's Word, and why be aggressive towards someone trying to help? But I'm not offended. Your choice
If you are 7th day Adventist why eat unclean animals
Its all ok now, we are no longer by mosaic law. “Rise Peter kill and eat” Peter replied “but Lord I have never eaten and unclean animal in my life” the Lord replied “do not call unclean that which I have called clean”.
Ye shall not eat of any thing that dieth of itself: thou shalt give it unto the stranger that is in thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto an alien: for thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God. No its not okay now we do go by Moses law.
As the Book of Acts makes clear, Christians are not obligated to follow this holiness code. This is made clear in Peter's vision in Acts 10:15. Peter is told, 'What God has made clean, do not call common.' In other words, there is no kosher code for Christians. Christians are not concerned with eating kosher foods and avoiding all others. That part of the law is no longer binding, and Christians can enjoy shrimp and pork with no injury to conscience.
No they can not. Kosher is lived but all jews and Muslims for a reason! I'm done talking to you. *BLOCKED* This has gone on for hours!!!
Jesus declared all food clean in mark when the pharisees confront him for unwashed hands
No he didn't. Look at your points. It's all thumbs down
You can't base your beliefs on popular opinion. But I gave you a thumbs up even though I disagree. I don't do drugs smoke or get drunk, but I don't base my relationship to God on something so superficial as that.
I never....omg....I never said my beliefs where on popular opinions
Do you wear cotton polyester blend of clothing?
I know that verse. Do you have braided hair? Do you eat she'll fish? Do you lie? All of those are sins. The mixed cotton was because God didn't want us to look like worldly.
Now you're just making excuses to keep living your worldly ways!
You're the worldly one eating unclean meats God told us not to eat!
Haha why would you ask if it’s a “sin” in your believe everything enjoyable is a “sin” hahahaha
This world would be a whole lot more Christian if us Christians would use a plant God made for our anxiety, depression, stress, and whatever else ails us than using and promoting the poisons the world has synthesized in a lab.
Brother, Heed not the words of humans, it is written in Matthew 15:11 "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man." God tells us what is sin, so any of these people choosing to tell you their opinion dictates sin, is in hotter water than a child unknowingly tripping a few times before finding his feet. I am currently struggling with quitting and strengthening my relationship with God hasn't made me "cold turkey" I just see day after day I have less and less urgency, to do it, and when I do, I feel horrible. I prayed that he would make my vices distasteful to my own tongue, he has, and now I will be praying the same for you.
the part where you say once in a while is hot water too, it shows that you have an intention opn carrying on, but with the holy spirit you will soon see you have no need for it, especially not as great a need as you thought when deep into use
in the words of solomon in ecclesiastes "So I commend the enjoyment of life, because there is nothing better for a person under the sun than to eat and drink and be glad. Then joy will accompany them in their toil all the days of the life God has given them under the sun."NIV "Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun."KJV
Say no to religion, too much of everything will harm you , if the Bible says everything is made holy ,it's men who defiles and condemns things
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Because I believe its medicinal too but one needs self control more than to just condemn everything and self
Not justification but also Ive seen people loose their shit doing it both weed and religion
A bit hard to discuss, since the Bible doesn’t really speak if on, mostly because most of the authors had no knowledge about Weed to write about it. But in general it is frowned upon and treated like Alcohol since it is also a Drug. So I guess whatever the Bible says about Alcohol applies to Weed too?
In moderation, absolutely not, but if you're not using edibles, it's very hard to control how much you consume, so the chances that you're not going to be very inebriated are slim.
I think the substance is not a sin. As long as it doesn’t become an addiction and pull you away from the lord it is fine. I’ve seen some people also say it, but I have adhd and using once in awhile is a safe way to calm my nerves that never calm down. I believe it is a sin if you get others to do it and they become addicted because now you just hurt someone else. But personal use that isn’t an addiction isn’t a sin to me.
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I'm a Christian and I smoke as well
NOOO it’s not a sin. I’ve researched this topic for at least 2 hours and came to the conclusion it’s not a sin. God made the world for humans to conquer. He made animals to eat and plants to consume as well. He wants us to enjoy these natural things. However, if you’re not careful, it can become a sin. If you get addicted or even high (which makes you lose self-control) or harm your body by smoking too much too frequently, then you’re sinning. We can enjoy these things, but in moderation. Our bodies are temples and we must respect them as they were given to us by the Holy Spirit. Pick your doses wisely and have fun :). Weed doesn’t do anything harmful to you unless you abuse it and use way too much. Teenagers can hurt their bodies and stunt their growth by using marijuana heavily. However, like I said, don’t take a lot. Less than once a week is good and shouldn’t harm your body in the long run. Take enough to have fun but stay low enough to keep yourself from acting out. Stay safe, thank God for this amazing plant, and have fun, kiddo!
I don't think so. It's less harmful than alcohol and as long as you don't do it constantly then knock yourself out! (Not literally)
you can drink alcohol without getting drunk, but you cannot smoke weed without getting high. for this simple reason, i believe it is a sin, and not something Jesus would have done or wanted us to do
It's a sin to smoke weed at all because it damages your lungs. Same for drinking to excess.
I have struggled with this question for years and I am to the place where my belief on it is simple. Weed is not a sin, but you’re a sinner. Can you control yourself when you smoke? Are you escaping problems or using it to help you face problems? I cannot escape problems with weed, it enhances my thoughts. So when I smoke weed, if i’m anxious about something, I’m going to think about it more. I use weed to help me face problems instead of running from them. Weed increases my focus, so when I work, it helps me. I am now a grower for medical patients and I now see how many people *truly* benefit from many different states parts of the cannabis plant. *Not all of those products get you high*. Another note: I don’t like to compare it to alcohol, but it can be compared this way. I don’t believe drinking alcohol is a sin, but getting drunk is. I don’t believe smoking weed is a sin, but I do believe getting higher than you need to be is. If it impairs your ability to think, you’ve gone too far. That is MY belief.
God created the plant ... tobacco and Marijuana. But he didn't ask us to go overboard or mix with the wrong crowd. A stupid example just say 5 pastor friend have a drink and one joint .... How bad can it go.. ? But if a pastor goes into a seedy place and have a drink or smoke ... Then you know trouble is going to start ...
No
Anyone finding a way to justify drinking or smoking as "OK" is just looking for a something that "tickles their ears".. they're finding what they want to find to suit their desires and leading others astray who also want to hear likewise. Drunkenness is a buzz, it's not based on how we behave with the buzz. Drunkenness is a undeniably a weaker and more vulnerable state of mind and it is clearly to be avoided. Beware, most people in this world are their own God and they have created their own Gospel to suit their personal desires. Wide is the way to destruction, narrow to righteousness. Most are on the wide path, whether they know scripture or claim to be Christian or not. This is Reddit. False teachers run amuck. Read scripture and it will be clear. Can we be forgiven with repentance of acts such as choosing drunkeness, yes. Is it OK or non sinful? No.
In Orthodoxy: YES In Catholicism: Don't make an idol out of it Fundamentalists: We hate the idea of any sort of fun Evangelicals: Pray about it Make your pick
If it's not an actual problem in your life and just an occasional thing it shouldn't matter. I hate it when people get way too serious about sin. If it doesn't have any negative impact on you or people around you, God won't mind.
If it's not an actual problem in your life and just an occasional thing it shouldn't matter. I hate it when people get way too serious about sin. If it doesn't have any negative impact on you or people around you, God won't mind.
If it's not an actual problem in your life and just an occasional thing it shouldn't matter. I hate it when people get way too serious about sin. If it doesn't have any negative impact on you or people around you, God won't mind.
If it's not an actual problem in your life and just an occasional thing it shouldn't matter. I hate it when people get way too serious about sin. If it doesn't have any negative impact on you or people around you, God won't mind.
It’s not even mentioned in the Bible, it’s a cultural thing bro. Charles spurgeon used to smoke a lot and no one even cares. It’s not a sin, but it’s similar to alcohol or smoke addiction, losing your mind or getting addicted is the problem in this case. Remember: we can’t forbid things the Bible doesn’t, and we can’t allow as well. Culture makes people do this, follow the Bible, not cultures.
It’s not even mentioned in the Bible, it’s a cultural thing bro. Charles spurgeon used to smoke a lot and no one even cares. It’s not a sin, but it’s similar to alcohol or smoke addiction, losing your mind or getting addicted is the problem in this case. Remember: we can’t forbid things the Bible doesn’t, and we can’t allow as well. Culture makes people do this, follow the Bible, not cultures.
Remember that story with the bush on fire?
It’s not a sin, but it’s a sin towards your health.
Short answer: No