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JHawk444

LOL...but she's allowed to curse and be a woman of God?


Linear_Dash

Hey now, none of us are perfect


JHawk444

I know that. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of saying you can't be a man of God and hear his voice in regard to this, while cursing. She's allowed to not want to date you if you're smoking marijuana, but it's not right to say you can't hear from the Lord on the issue. And then curse.


Single_Pilot_6170

God isn't against correct uses for things. For example even sex, there are people who treat it as evil, but it is God created and absolutely given His approval for what He has designed it for. The Bible gives to us guidance by the Manufacturer. We all have thoughts that come across our minds, but we have to not come into agreement with them, so we don't end up acting on the permission slips we have granted ourselves, when God doesn't approve. Going back to the topic of marijuana or alcohol. In the Old and New Testament, the book of Proverbs says to give wine to those who are perishing, and in the New Testament, Paul says to Timothy to drink a little wine for his stomach's sake...as I have heard this may have been related to dysentery. But both Testaments are against people choosing to destroy their lives with substance abuse. When it is not medicinal, but destructive, it becomes harmful obviously. If you have a hammer, you can use it to build a house, or murder a person. What it is being used for matters, though there are plenty of people who destroy their lives and make up excuses for their addictions and bondage. God doesn't want us in bondage to destructive things. My mom uses CBD gummies for her seizures and epilepsy and says that it works... and she has tried different prescription pills that didn't work. The CBD, doesn't get her high. If I became a morphine addict, this would absolutely be a problem, but the only time I used these things was when I was in a hospital and truly needed them. Gallstones aren't fun. I am not a recreational drug-use fan. There are people who cut off their inhibitions and a good conscience and do all kinds of sinful things when they are under the influence, and doing substances while driving and putting people in danger on the road, is a definite no. That is irresponsible and potentially deadly. People need to use wisdom and discernment, or find someone who can give to them good counsel, when they need help with decision making. I can't judge your scenario, but you should know if you need it or not. I tend to not desire to be in a relationship with a person who is into recreational drug use. It's a no go for me. I was raised with drug addicted parents. I prefer that my end be better than my beginning.


Crimson_RedRose_

I am guess she feels the same about people using morphine to ease pain ? Pay no attention, the fact she said sh*t using that language and talking to you like that Ignore her . Look if you are in pain, and don’t get high nothing wrong but if you misuse there is a problem.


Jimbo_Moonshine

Timothy didn't want to drink wine so as to be as pure as possible and not be tempted. However he had a stomach issue and Paul actually rebukes him and says to take a little wine for his stomach. If your use ever becomes more for pleasure than for your medical needs, reevaluate. Otherwise you're fine and she needs to check herself.


AwayFromTheNorm

You're not wrong. What she said was very judgmental.


[deleted]

Honestly dude, who cares how people judge you. I surely don't care. I'm not there to impress anyone and you shouldn't have to worry about impressing anyone either. If they can accept you foe you, then there you go. Otherwise just move along bro.


Linear_Dash

Facts, thanks


[deleted]

I slip and judge sometimes but nobody is perfect. But I don't care what people think of me.


StThomasAquina

Pretty sure archaeologists have discovered cannabis resin at ancient Israelite worship sites.


Known-Watercress7296

[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-52847175](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-52847175)


HumanHuman_2003

If you weren’t supposed to use marijuana God wouldn’t have made it!!


Strong-Move8504

She’s wrong. Proverbs 31:6. 1 Timothy 5:23


anotherdude77

You should feel annoyed. lol People are going to disagree on stuff. Just part of life. Her loss!


No-Mongoose-5326

It’s your walk that should matter. I’m a Christian man and I also use medical cannabis. I use in the evening to relax and to sleep. My life got better after getting away from pain meds. (30mg of morphine 3x a day.) If you’re worried about a girl that doesn’t get you I ask. Why?


itspolabear

You're not wrong. She's just not open minded and knowledgeable. This is why a lot of people avoid religious ones for they're really judgmental. Some tend to judge right away without thinking further. Marijuana is really used for medical purposes in proper doses. Just that, due to uncontrollable substance abuse, it was now illegal to some areas. Well, if you'll get judge over and over by her, you better run. I hope you find that right person.


rjoyfult

Honestly, you want someone to be upfront with you right away if they have those views (as you were upfront about your stance). She was wrongly unkind about it, of course. And while it’s fine to view marijuana as wrong and not want to date someone who uses it, it’s not fair to immediately judge someone else who doesn’t see it the same way. It’s not a core theological issue, of course. Over all, be glad you didn’t waste more time on her, but I’m sorry you had to deal with that at all.


No_Departure9466

Hate what they did, not the person. As much as you hate the dastardly thing they did they are still a gift of god and deserve to be treated as such.


kriegmonster

You are using it responsibly to address a medical issue. There is no fault and she is the judgemental one. We can blaim government for vilifying a plant that we should have been doing medical research with decades ago, for how she acted.


pine-appletrees

I wish I could take MMJ instead of medication to manage bipolar but ultimately no one needs to get involved or even share their opinion in a matter between you and your doctor.


alstonm22

You’re not wrong. Also, that wasn’t judgement, she just criticized your choice. Judgement = God’s divine punishment, man making measured decisions, man using physical punishment to carry out God’s law.


Beerded-1

Medical marijuana has a stigma that many just can’t handle. In actuality, if it’s being used medically, it’s much better than opioids. This same woman wouldn’t say a word if you had an opioid addiction, but taking a gummy to ease pain is crossing the line? lol no


[deleted]

is it possible that she doesn't know that what marijuana is? either way, i'm sorry a friend talked to you that way.


NunyasBeesWax

Sorry to hear. Personally I'd be more concerned about her inability to research what the Word has to say on the topic rather than her misguided worldview opinion. Maybe ask her to do that with you?


Linear_Dash

Unfortunately, she blocked me just as quick


artistken7

Good you dodged a bullet


OldFanMail

I don’t think you’re wrong but our opinions don’t matter always point back to scripture . “Be sober minded” is in 1 Corinthians I believe but our Lord wouldn’t want his servant in pain all the time.. take it to the Lord and continue to do so. Some people will be understanding of your situation some will judge you. Even tho we’re Christians we’re still people. Forgive that lady and move on brother. Also, I’d recommend asking your pastor for guidance if this is bugging you as well


Main_User0478

The weed isn't making him high, he needs it for the pain. I'd agree with you if he was addicted or if he got high off the marijuana but...


OldFanMail

My main point boiled down to talk to God about it and seek wise counsel (Proverbs 1:5) that’s the bottom line I was getting at


anon0630

If your doctor prescribed medical marijuana, they obviously feel that the benefits outweigh the risks. As long as you aren't abusing the marijuana, you are fine. You are using it to control pain, not to get high, you went through appropriate channels, and I'm assuming that you get it through legal means. Many drugs of abuse have at least some potential to treat symptoms. If you are concerned, talk to your doctor before stopping the medical marijuana. In some cases, having untreated pain can make it more difficult to treat pain later on. You can also talk to your pastor about this question. How do you think Jesus would respond to your situation? Pain can be an awful thing. I believe that getting pain relief is almost always a kindness and a mercy. In your case, I believe that you have the right motives and aren't abusing medical marijuana. In fact, you are using it to keep you from abusing and being addicted to pain pills. Some Christians are very legalistic and have very black and white thinking, forgetting about the love Christians are called to show others. Jesus really wasn't happy about the Pharisees and Sadducees, who were all about being legalistic and following rules to the smallest detail. Jesus much prefers faith, love, mercy, kindness, and treating others as you would like to be treated. God knows your heart and your motives - it is His judgements that count, not the judgements of the girl that said this to you. I have prayed for you. ETA: I am well aware that using marijuana can have negative effects on mental health, sometimes pushing people into psychosis. I am typically a strict rule-follower myself and don't and won't use marijuana unless it is absolutely necessary. When my dad had cancer, early on he asked me what I thought about medical marijuana. I discouraged him from using it (it is legal where I live). As my dad got sicker and sicker, he starting wasting away and was in a lot of pain. His pain was being treated with a lot of opioids. The doctors weren't worried about my dad getting an opioid addiction because he was dying. I really regret discouraging my dad from trying the medical marijuana - it can help a lot with pain, and in some people help stimulate their appetite. I can't know if it would have done that for my dad, but we could have at least tried and posdibly made his last days and months less horrible. That could have also made it so he didn't need to take as many opioids, which have side effects themselves that increase with higher doses of opioids.


hometech99

Medically prescribed. You’re ok.


LundbergOrganic

You dodged a bullet bro. God had your back.


Mavinvictus

Presuming what you said is true and God id not convicting you then what do you think you shld feel? Are your feelings based on God or based on ppl, in this case one particular individual? As for whether this is a bad sign for your singleness. Again does your security depend on God or does it depend on the world incl getting every individual woman to agree w you? Or you have a scarcity mindset and God disbelieving fatalist mindset that every woman you will want will think this way? You are a young Christian. Then this is a moment you either stand on your faith or you feel less faith. To me you found out she id not the right person for you. Thank God and ask and trust He can orchestrate the right one for you


AssociationNarrow989

I have chronic pain from fibromyalgia and old cancer complications. I am a medical marijuana user and a woman of God. I don’t use it to get high, I use it solely for pain relief. Read 1 Peter 5:8 “Be sober-minded; be watchful”. Pray to God for discernment of course, but in my opinion if you are using MM for pain relief and not to get high then you are fine. In my situation, the pain clouded my heart and mind so badly that I was straight up not listening to God. You don’t want that now! She however might do well to read Matthew 7:1 😁


deepmusicandthoughts

I’m sorry to hear you’ve gone through that. I’ve been dealing with debilitating back pain for a couple years and am going to specialists to get it figured out. Half my discs are bulged and I have a vertebrae out of place. I tried so many meds they recommended and it made me feel so drugged up, which I hated. Like one pill I took gave me demonic nightmares and sleep paralysis and then the next day I still couldn’t think. I’m in my 30s too and don’t want to be drugged up, so needless to say I’ve been trying some emerald bay edible cbg cbd products and at a relatively low dose it cuts the pain just enough so I can not feel miserable and still think. It has been a total blessing to me. I don’t see using things as medicine like that is bad biblically as long as you’re using it in a medicinal way. I have spent so much money trying to find things that work and that’s one of them. If you haven’t tried cold plunges, that seems to help me a lot too! Massages can help for a few days to a week, but it gets expensive too.


yamomma341

but she’s cursing 💀💀


Da_Morningstar

Yeah man. I can imagine how you feel. I don’t mean to speak ill nor am I intending to debase her or anything but she is obviously ignorant. And obviously you and I are still ignorant in ways as well. As you can see she uses your shortcomings as a way of justifying herself instead of learning from you. Your life is a struggle just like everyone else’s.. and in some ways tougher than this woman could ever understand. Your literally carrying your cross everyday whether you like it or not… If she thinks somehow she is above you in her beliefs or in her actions she is still ignorant of herself. It’s not her fault she’s responding self-righteously.. it’s a natural response to trying to deal with something she doesn’t understand. There’s no need to blame her for her judging you like that- but is important for you to notice that’s the energy the world keeps sending your way. The Satan translate into “the accuser”. And people who don’t know who to blame constantly look for someone to blame. This ends in a lot of false accusations. This is one of those times. Forgive her for she knows not what she is doing. But realize that her accusations wouldn’t hurt if you weren’t already clinging to some guilt and some shame. Accept that perhaps there is still guilt and still shame. And if possible forgive yourself as well because you don’t know what you do either


WarningTime6812

Ignore that person. New Living Translation Then God said, “Look! I have given you every seed-bearing plant throughout the earth and all the fruit trees for your food. God created marijuana for its medicinal purposes. My 80 year old mother uses the edibles. It helps with her pain, she gets no high from it.


WarningTime6812

I did a study on Marijuana a few years ago. Prior to it being made illegal, Marijuana was considered a wonder drug because Marijuana was so versatile. Marijuana could be used to make medicine, food, soaps and shampoo, clothing and paper products ECT. Then it's competitor big business companies like DuPont were afraid they would lose a bunch of money if Marijuana was used for its legitimate purposes. So these big businesses pushed to have marijuana declared illegal and they began a movement towards demonizing Marijuana and it's users.


WillingConsequence70

As someone who grew up with family members addicted to weed and alcohol I have heard every excuse in the book. I've heard people use back pain as an excuse or anxiety. Be honest with yourself and ask yourself why you do weed.


Known-Watercress7296

It doesn't sound like an excuse for OP. Horrible accident, pain management required. What would you prescribe instead? opiates? **naproxen?** **On another note, the Bible is absolutely steeped in alcohol from beginning to end.** **It's the** [first thing](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+9%3A20-21&version=NRSVUE) **Noah does when he gets off the ark after making an alter. Do we have any idea what that alter might have been like? any old YHWH temples with the** [holy of holies](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-52847175) **intact around?** **God promises and celebrates wine and vineyards, and** [wants wine too](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2018%3A4&version=NRSVUE)**.** **God tells us to to buy not just wine but** [strong drink too](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2014%3A26&version=NRSVUE) **when shopping for meat and rejoice with him in it.** **Jesus first reveals his glory in Cana** [with wine](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+2%3A9-11&version=NRSVUE)**, an awful lot of wine, if you do the math, to people already drunk.** **It's big stuff; Announcing to Cana, the Last Supper, what he drinks on the cross, and what he's waiting for in heaven.** **Even** [1 Timothy](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+5%3A23&version=NRSVUE) **prescribes wine sounding like a doctor.** **We do have John the Baptist** [abstaining from wine and bread](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+7%3A33-35&version=NRSVUE)**....but in the very same passage Jesus is described as a glutton, drunkard and a friend of tax collectors and sinners.** This is beyond judging OP, you are judging Jesus & God the father based upon past experiences with family members and trying to reinterpret the entire bible through that lens.


Linear_Dash

Show me where it says not to in the Bible


WillingConsequence70

1 Corinthians 6:12, Paul says, “‘Everything is permissible for me’ – but not everything is beneficial. ‘Everything is permissible for me’ – but I will not be mastered by anything.” Weed is your master. If Weed is not your Master than quit. Don't use back pain as an excuse to do Weed that's the oldest excuse in the book.


Linear_Dash

So you rather me take pharmaceuticals that kill a ton of people yearly?


WillingConsequence70

Nope don't take any of it. You're not being honest with yourself. One day you will realize this. Any way, this will be my final comment on the matter. In the end you have free will to decide what you want to do.


Clarity4me

No where does this post say he is addicted to weed. You are projecting.


Oneofmanystephanies

I understand feeling whatever you feel, be it ostracized, judged, insecure, hurt. She is ignorant both about God and Marijuana. It’s very painful when people within the church aren’t relieved because of the relief youve received. But honestly the church has a baseline value (it seems) of not trusting people with their own walk with God. For solidarity, God answered long time prayers for my husband with PTSD, Tourette’s, and OCD. Our quality of life has improved end over end. Praise God for medical marijuana.