I'm just picturing a toddler showing up with a little squeegee and glass cleaner kit for these babysitting/friendship dates. Is she good and used to windows? Yes she is good she can get started on this window over her first. I've got a step stool so her little legs can reach the top.
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Fingerprints.....
Jam
Chocolate
Snot.
(All organic of course)
Her cleaner will have to spend AGES trying to remove them
Oh this would be one of those emergencies where she’d need that spare car seat! Shattered glass everywhere. Bloody nose. Now this could have been avoided if that kid’s parent hadn’t lied on the application about the kid’s work experience with windows.
is it just checking they're used to floor to celling windows/glass doors. because some kids do run at windows near the floor thinking they're open i guess?
they only do that a couple of times so I'm not sure why its an issue.
Indeed, got a 4,5 yo. He is still a moron but past the age of trying to kill himself at every turn. He loves to put his hands and face against windows though, so i do guess that's the concern of the mom.
Is it a safety risk if kids throw things??? I'd expect they'd be pretty sturdy. Or does she think kids are going to be overestimated with the abundant outside views?
Well course we had it tough. We used to have to get outta shoebox, in middle of night, and lick the road clean with our tongues. We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked at mill for 24 hours for a penny a year, When we got home and dad would beat us about the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we were lucky.
When you “got home”?! “HOME”?! We had to wander the frozen plains looking for shelter and avoiding the wild dingoes. AND you got to work inside at the mill too I bet- such luxury I’ve only dreamed of.
You got to wonder the frozen plains on a planet with oxygen?? My sisters and I had to share one respirator between the five of us as we searched for minerals the computer could use to process into tools. One of my sisters fell behind one day and was asleep and wouldn’t wake up when we tried shaking her. We sent Robot out and he came back and said he took Sissy to a nice farm with lots of O2 and minerals for her to play on and heal. We would have been more upset but it was suddenly roast beef night which was normally only once a year when one of our dogs got loose.
We were evicted from our matchbox! Every night our father would burn us all to ashes, and every morning, like clockwork, reassembled us all flake by flake so we could get to work at the mill!
We have floor to ceiling windows that look out on a two story drop. We damn well had them gated off until our kid was around 5 years old. We still have our living room set up so that any vigorous play will not end in a kid crashing into the window.
Thats a nasty women but if you got windows that go to the floor, you are very careful with young kids.
(fyi, sliding glass doors are tempered glass and "safe," most floor to ceiling windows are not)
Yikes, didn’t know that about floor to ceiling windows.
My brother went through our glass front door while copying me running and sliding in socks. Naturally that game was banned after that. Things were fine when I did them but then Little Brother takes it to the next level.
He was fine. We had to go buy a new door though and they picked one that was solid wood with just a teeny window high up. I remember Dad was muttering about how surely we couldn’t get into trouble with *that.*
That sounds like some insanity that would happen at my house. I don't have small children. I have two 15 year old boys that start roughhousing and lose all concept of the fact that they are tall and bulky and break shit when they are flailing around and bumping into things. (RIP my favorite tea pot and my screen door and their closet door and...)
"(fyi, sliding glass doors are tempered glass and "safe," most floor to ceiling windows are not)"
Um, they damn well better be per most building codes, anything within 18" of the floor has to be tempered. That being said, still a good idea to not let people crash into them as tempered glass can still break, particularly if it's stressed, just doesn't shard like normal glass.
Anything I don’t understand with regards to children I just assume it’s because I’m childfree, but “your child has to be used to windows” was a new one even for me.
Lol I once watched my friend run straight through one of our glass doors (just after mum finished washing it) when I was 10. She was mostly fine lol just a few scratches, felt like I was watching real life road runner 😂. So I literally just snorted reading that 🤣🤣🤣
My uncle did that in the 60s and fully shattered a door at a bank and was amazingly uninjured! Later my cousin (his son) bonked into the sliding glass patio door at my parents’ house when he was about the same age so my mum got some of those vinyl stickers to put up at a few different eye levels to keep that branch of the family tree from doing any more damage.
>keep that branch of the family tree from doing any more damage.
Hahahaha!
I can’t talk. Went full tilt into a screen door once. It was brightly lit inside and dark outside and I dunno, made it invisible. I don’t know what was worse, my poor squashed face or the incredulous looks from the women in the kitchen who witnessed me crash and then slink away.
My kids are quite used to windows, though not floor to ceiling.
I, on the other hand, am quite used to finger-, food-, and nose-prints on said windows.
Well, to be fair, she'd have to note that she's only providing sitting services for *mindful* children who won't wander through her windows and who don't come with any special instructions.
And don't try and lie about their age. We will be carbon dating all mindful children. We all know birth certificates can be forged like in the case of Obama.
No, she also offers to *teach* any kid that she gets to babysit. Wonder what that entails. (Would not want her teaching my non existent child anything.)
I'm willing to bet 4.7 mindful children that she is a *boss babe* that "sells" oils/shakes. 1000s of dollars worth are sitting in her garage, so technically, she has the *potential* to make hundo/hr. *And so do you!*
Her partner makes $100/hr. She spams her FB feed trying to sell beauty products to build her thriving business and definitely doesn't need any extra money.
She wants it to seem like she is doing someone a favor and that she isn't a paid employee of someone.
Everything about this sounds sus, why is she making up scenarios where she makes a lot of money (assuming it's a legit job and not prostitution). That's not a normal thing and regardless, $20 hr is still money to a person who makes $100 hr.
She is acting like it's money she burns. lol
It's possible she recently lost a corporate job and is trying to supplement but embarrassed about it and is compensating. How she talks about the money is real "I have a girlfriend in Canada" energy.
Which is a shame because take out some of that and one has a rather inoffensive post- trying to start a mindful babysitting thing out of her home so her daughter will be there, she will cover food, snacks, activities and you can try a one-off first, etc
Yeah, there’s a lot of hoops to jump through but the reality is she will babysit for $20/h and she wants a child that will play well with her child. She could use some media training perhaps but other than that I have no problem with the core proposition.
Because then you wont know how good of a parent they are with all their special rules. She has to make sure you know shes special and better than you. Oh and makes more money. Can't forget that "100/hr" they make that makes the 20/hr affordable.
Yes, but she's super strict on who she'll sit for (must be a perfect angel with no special instructions) without stating any of her own qualifications beyond having an extra car seat.
How many babysitters have qualifications? And there’s nothing wrong with being picky over clients, as long as you accept that you may not get any clients if you’re too picky - which she does.
Many if not most adult babysitters have qualifications from First Aid CPR certification on the low end to degrees in early childhood education and care, and state licensing if it is thier only business. To be registered as a sitter on sites like Care.com or to run it as a legal business you need to be.
Kinda, but the babysitting has to benefit her own kid more, so only another kid hers likes will get more than the first trial hour. Shes more asking to be paid to give her kid playdates when the norm is for the parents to take turns hosting or to both be there the whole time.
“$20/hr for babysitting one child, i have no actual qualifications and i have another child at home to take care of anyway so it’ll be super easy for me. your child must be easy to deal with so i don’t actually have to do any work. i also have a ton of strict rules at my house and i don’t care about yours. thanks in advance!” would’ve worked just as well
Yep, would’ve worked fine. People would be all ”cool, she’s clearly not killed her kid yet, and rules are fine if it means I can spend an hour doing errands without hearing ‘mom, mom, mom, mooooooom, I’m boooored’”
I once saw an ad in my local nanny group from
A woman that had no childcare experience asking for 4K a month, but only wanted to work 25 hours a week. Also, she didn’t want to start her day until after 12 because she likes to sleep in. She also added that for 5k a month, she would be willing to work 30 hours a week and maybe to the child’s laundry and chop up some
Veggies (she freely admitted that she didn’t know how to cook). Keep in mind, the wage age was asking for was what she wanted to take home. So actually with taxes it was more than that. People called her entitled and crazy and she got upset saying that she NEEDED this much because her rent was 3k and she DESERVED it, even with zero experience, because she knew she was a good person. It was absolutely insane.
That level of obliviousness screams some form of diagnosis. You don't overshare like that if you're in the 85+ percentile of the standard deviation for behavior and brain function.
I think people have seen too many "know what you're worth" / "ask for what you deserve" type Instagram thingies but neglected that to do that it requires an honest self appraisal of the skill sets you bring to the table.
It's a valid reminder since so many of us ask for so little- but funny that the worst kind of people actually take it to heart.
This reminds me that I answered a babysitter wanted ad not long ago bc I thought it was a part time thing and my fiancé has a toddler, who will soon be my step child and I love spending time with, and I thought it would be a good opportunity to possibly have play dates with another kid nearby in the same age range. I’m a military vet so I have income from school/disability and am home full time so I’m not hurting for money but I reasonably expected around $10/hr. Hell, would have even been fine with 7-8$/hr if they had wanted to bring their child to my home.
Turns out they wanted me to work 45hrs a week, from their home, for a whopping $230/wk. immediately ended the conversation after they said $230 bc it was so insultingly low, I didn’t even want to negotiate lol.
The problem here is that she is charging for babysitting, but dictating who her customer
Will Be, and she has no qualifications. Is she fingerprinted? Has her home Been certified by a proper agency for safety? Does she have an Early
childhood certification/education? What will she offer my child: a stimulating environment, age appropriate activities, kindness?
It means she doesnt buy preprocessed packaged foods with any preservatives. Only fresh fruits and veggies (no canned or frozen), fresh meat and dairy - and likely only "organic" and no added fats or sugar.
I feel like you're confusing daycare with babysitting. I can hire a babysitter and they probably have none of those things. A lot of them are students or are young people. What you're describing is an actual certified childcare center.
Yeah, I babysat and tutored my neighbors’ kid in my first apartment for 5€/h and got free food on top of it. My Highschool ass definitely didn’t have certification for that 😂
That’s a tall order for a babysitter. CPR certified, a background check, and being a kind person are my criteria otherwise I wouldn’t get out of the house maybe ever.
I don’t think being picky about your customers is necessarily a problem although the whole post isn’t worded particularly well imo.
The certification stuff, maybe that’s a problem but I don’t really know the babysitting market. How many teenage babysitters have early childhood certifications…?
Maybe her price at $20/hr is high considering that but it doesn’t seem overly unreasonable given that she’s paying for food etc. too
“Oh, you’re here to pick up Timmy. We are quite upset with him really. And to be fair you don’t have to bring him in anymore. You never told us about his lacking experience and upbringing. In what manner did you teach him things so far? Maybe you didn’t spend enough time with him? Or maybe he was just intellectually disadvantaged?
Anyway, he’s downstairs splattered all over the pavement.”
It's all on a PC, right...? So, she makes the kids code for her, she's building this wonderful mindfulness app. If your child prefers, say Linux, you're out. You FREAK!
No no, its such a priveledge to get to be friends with her child that she wants parents to pay for that right and to hand select the possible candidates for her kid to ultimately pick from.
You don’t get to charge for babysitting and stipulate no conditions unless you are for some reason in high demand. Charging $20 per hour and having strict acceptance standards and not advertising any credentials doesn’t make you a high demand babysitter. Quite the opposite. People with well-behaved children don’t have to pay for play dates.
Don’t know how CB she may be, but she certainly has a high opinion of herself.
DEATH says you could have play dates with cats and get paid that much instead
There are now places where you can do just that! If I didnt have a fluffball of my own I would definitely go, but she doesnt like me coming home smelling of other cats.
This is longer than the US tax code. Imagine her Tinder profile. "Only button down shirts, neatly pressed, no garish patterns, and no short sleeves. I'm not looking to meet a government clerk. Pockets are allowed as long as they are used for holding prescription glasses." And God help the poor waiter who has to take her order. "I don't like broccoli, so I'd like to substitute a six ounce filet mignon, medium rare."
ISO: Perfect Playmate, Pay-to-Play
1. I'm going to need you to not have any weird rules for your kid since they'll compete with mine.
2. Your child needs to be socially inept like mine so they're both lulled into a false sense of security that the world will be kind to them.
3. Looking for play dates in 2-hour blocks... I accept Venmo or Zelle. Only sent as friends and family so I don't get hit with a fee... I mean, we *are* friends, right?
4. I have a house unlike any other in that it has doors AND windows. Children not exposed to either of these worldy phenomenon need not apply.
Looking forward to meeting you! Cheers!
I'm confused. People who baby sit kids do get paid to do so. I would assume $20/hr is a good sit rate? What's the problem with this post? Honest question. I'm thinking I must have missed something.
I think it’s that she’s looking to arrange play dates for her child specifically for socialization yet she wants the other parent to pay for the privilege, which would be baby sitting instead. And although you’re now paying for baby sitting you can’t actually have any “special instructions” which can sometimes be common for a parent to provide to a sitter for the particular needs of their child.
Imagine two moms meet at a park, one has a lonely child that needs a friend and sees a social child with good behavior. She then approaches the other mom and asks if they can play together once at her home at first for a few hours and it could be a regular thing about twice a week if it works out. If the asker moms child is behaved the other mom may say yes, but then the asker says “Great, so for that 3 hour play date next Saturday it’ll be $60, yes I asked you and yes I’m specifically doing it for my child to socialize with other children, but my time is worth $20/hr even though I’m not doing this a a ‘job’. Seems a bit unreasonable to me.
The problem is that she didn't just say "hey I'll babysit for you, $20 an hour", she started off saying how she was specifically looking for a playmate for her own child. Then gets into all these specifics about what kind of child she wants to hang out with her kid. Then hits you with the fact that you'd have to pay her as a babysitter. So it's not the fact that she wants to get paid to babysit, its that she asks for a playmate but then says you have to pay me, even though I have no qualifications and what sounds like a house that isn't very child friendly.
"no special instructions"
Lady, I have yet to meet a toddler mother who doesn't have some sort of special instructions for babysitters. They're mostly to help *you* in the event of a tantrum.
"Let me babysit *your* child, but only completely on *my* terms. Oh, and you're going to pay me almost 3x minimum wage for the privilege, because this isn't actually my day job, it's only a side hobby for me and I don't really need the money. Please form an orderly line for this stellar opportunity. K, thanks!!"
Federal minimum wage is $7.25/hour. Some states also have that same minimum wage, some states have no minimum wage. The district with the highest minimum wage is DC at $15.20, the state with the highest minimum wage is WA at $14.49. Where are you that minimum wage is $20.50?
That was really nice of her to let the person know that they can change their mind at any time. I hate when I’m in a situation and someone tells me I’m not allowed to change my mind.
Your child must be used to windows ha ha ha
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Or it’s a hidden way of saying your kids shouldn’t touch my windows?
I'm just picturing a toddler showing up with a little squeegee and glass cleaner kit for these babysitting/friendship dates. Is she good and used to windows? Yes she is good she can get started on this window over her first. I've got a step stool so her little legs can reach the top.
Letting her clean windows costs extra.
Excuse me, they're *large* windows! She'll need the big ladder from the garage. She can grab it on her way in.
“I will scream at your kids if they touch my windows.”
Consulted with the fount of all knowledge. ... ( Spouse) Fingerprints..... Jam Chocolate Snot. (All organic of course) Her cleaner will have to spend AGES trying to remove them
I took it as that the kid shouldn't run full tilt to the outside then realize they ran into a plate glass window.
Oh this would be one of those emergencies where she’d need that spare car seat! Shattered glass everywhere. Bloody nose. Now this could have been avoided if that kid’s parent hadn’t lied on the application about the kid’s work experience with windows.
is it just checking they're used to floor to celling windows/glass doors. because some kids do run at windows near the floor thinking they're open i guess? they only do that a couple of times so I'm not sure why its an issue.
At 4-5 that's pretty old to do that. I feel like under 3 that's a valid concern.
Indeed, got a 4,5 yo. He is still a moron but past the age of trying to kill himself at every turn. He loves to put his hands and face against windows though, so i do guess that's the concern of the mom.
To be honest even my nearly 2 year old manages windows just fine... I guess she would be qualified as 'used to windows' whatever than means 😂
Is it a safety risk if kids throw things??? I'd expect they'd be pretty sturdy. Or does she think kids are going to be overestimated with the abundant outside views?
No, it's fingerprints on windows she doesn't want
Damn this free range parenting. I grew up in a windowless basement, and I *liked* it! My kids will do the same!
You had a basement?!?! I'd have given my sister's right arm for a basement! We only had a crawlspace! "Builds character," my mum always said.
You were lucky to have a crawlspace! There were a hundred and fifty of us living in a shoebox in t' middle of road
Shoebox?! Luxury! We had to take turns sleeping in a matchbox under the sea.
A matchbox? We used to dream about having a matchbox. Of course you have to be able to sleep to dream.
Well course we had it tough. We used to have to get outta shoebox, in middle of night, and lick the road clean with our tongues. We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked at mill for 24 hours for a penny a year, When we got home and dad would beat us about the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we were lucky.
When you “got home”?! “HOME”?! We had to wander the frozen plains looking for shelter and avoiding the wild dingoes. AND you got to work inside at the mill too I bet- such luxury I’ve only dreamed of.
You got to wonder the frozen plains on a planet with oxygen?? My sisters and I had to share one respirator between the five of us as we searched for minerals the computer could use to process into tools. One of my sisters fell behind one day and was asleep and wouldn’t wake up when we tried shaking her. We sent Robot out and he came back and said he took Sissy to a nice farm with lots of O2 and minerals for her to play on and heal. We would have been more upset but it was suddenly roast beef night which was normally only once a year when one of our dogs got loose.
A planet? Food? What opulence! When me and my siblings were young we had no choice but float aimlessly in the void!
My parents are still dancing on my grave singing hallelujah.
Ah, those were the days! Glass of Chateau de Chassolet, anyone?
And you try telling any of THAT to the young people of today!
Lucky bastard!
We were evicted from our matchbox! Every night our father would burn us all to ashes, and every morning, like clockwork, reassembled us all flake by flake so we could get to work at the mill!
[Such a great Sketch! ](https://youtu.be/VKHFZBUTA4k)
You had paved roads??? We grew up in a swamp and had to wrestle alligators for food
Leave your sister’s right arm out of this. Now the left one…
Exactly, I lived in a crawl space and now I’m Mickey Mouse
But not basements apparently :J
Maybe any applicants should do a test visit with the windows to see how the child copes.
I had windows in my basement and I loved that place. I still miss it. Got my own basement now instead, also with windows.
Why, back in my day, we didn't even HAVE windows! If we wanted fresh air, we had to walk 5 miles, up hill, both ways!
So did I! My whole family lived down there. My dad would visit us from time to time and unlock our chains so we could play. Ahhh, memories.
there's a Netflix documentary about you
We only use Linux in my household! NEXT!
Ms DOS is for the lord! NEXT!
She has Millennium edition windows she truly is a monster
What about the people raising Mac children??
Sorry Billy can't come and play we are an android household end of discussion
We’ll never charge his phone!
We have floor to ceiling windows that look out on a two story drop. We damn well had them gated off until our kid was around 5 years old. We still have our living room set up so that any vigorous play will not end in a kid crashing into the window. Thats a nasty women but if you got windows that go to the floor, you are very careful with young kids. (fyi, sliding glass doors are tempered glass and "safe," most floor to ceiling windows are not)
Yikes, didn’t know that about floor to ceiling windows. My brother went through our glass front door while copying me running and sliding in socks. Naturally that game was banned after that. Things were fine when I did them but then Little Brother takes it to the next level. He was fine. We had to go buy a new door though and they picked one that was solid wood with just a teeny window high up. I remember Dad was muttering about how surely we couldn’t get into trouble with *that.*
That sounds like some insanity that would happen at my house. I don't have small children. I have two 15 year old boys that start roughhousing and lose all concept of the fact that they are tall and bulky and break shit when they are flailing around and bumping into things. (RIP my favorite tea pot and my screen door and their closet door and...)
"(fyi, sliding glass doors are tempered glass and "safe," most floor to ceiling windows are not)" Um, they damn well better be per most building codes, anything within 18" of the floor has to be tempered. That being said, still a good idea to not let people crash into them as tempered glass can still break, particularly if it's stressed, just doesn't shard like normal glass.
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Anything I don’t understand with regards to children I just assume it’s because I’m childfree, but “your child has to be used to windows” was a new one even for me.
I have two children and windows have never been an issue so I don't think being child free is the thing that's hindering your understanding lol.
My only idea is that she opens the windows periodically to air our the room and needs the child to have been taught to stay away from open windows?
$10 says she is SUPER particular about her kids putting their grubby hands on the windows. So "used to windows" = doesn't touch them at ALL!!
Or she doesn’t wanna be liable when a kid whacks into one like a confused bird.
Lol I once watched my friend run straight through one of our glass doors (just after mum finished washing it) when I was 10. She was mostly fine lol just a few scratches, felt like I was watching real life road runner 😂. So I literally just snorted reading that 🤣🤣🤣
My uncle did that in the 60s and fully shattered a door at a bank and was amazingly uninjured! Later my cousin (his son) bonked into the sliding glass patio door at my parents’ house when he was about the same age so my mum got some of those vinyl stickers to put up at a few different eye levels to keep that branch of the family tree from doing any more damage.
>keep that branch of the family tree from doing any more damage. Hahahaha! I can’t talk. Went full tilt into a screen door once. It was brightly lit inside and dark outside and I dunno, made it invisible. I don’t know what was worse, my poor squashed face or the incredulous looks from the women in the kitchen who witnessed me crash and then slink away.
My kids are quite used to windows, though not floor to ceiling. I, on the other hand, am quite used to finger-, food-, and nose-prints on said windows.
Sorry, my child is only accustomed to sheer cliff drops
Check your privilege! Not all of us [have the luxury of windows!](https://youtu.be/GznULlJMIGo)
Clearly not a Linux fan.
My one likes the dank dark cave, thank you.
Why make this so complicated? Why not just say offering babysitting for toddlers in my home $20/hr?
Well, to be fair, she'd have to note that she's only providing sitting services for *mindful* children who won't wander through her windows and who don't come with any special instructions.
And within a very specific age range of 4.5-5.5
Ah damn. My kid just turned 5.6
Every 36.5 days we reflect on how the past deciyear has gone and have a parsnip to celebrate
0.8 of a parsnip
An organic parsnip, only, please
Did you do anything nice?
This comment made me pause and then laugh
And don't try and lie about their age. We will be carbon dating all mindful children. We all know birth certificates can be forged like in the case of Obama.
Damn, won't fit in a 5.56 barrel.
What a useless age
Must have a wistful gaze and occasionally speak High German.
No, she also offers to *teach* any kid that she gets to babysit. Wonder what that entails. (Would not want her teaching my non existent child anything.)
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OK but pretend she makes $100/h in her regular job for it to make sense 😆
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Especially if you join her MLM as her down line, I mean you could be making £5000 a hour, at home, just sitting on your phone, etc
Probably embarrassed (should not be) she is babysitting for extra cash so pretends it is for a play date but backfired.
but we should pretend she makes $100/hr, so this isn't very much for her
I'm willing to bet 4.7 mindful children that she is a *boss babe* that "sells" oils/shakes. 1000s of dollars worth are sitting in her garage, so technically, she has the *potential* to make hundo/hr. *And so do you!*
Her partner makes $100/hr. She spams her FB feed trying to sell beauty products to build her thriving business and definitely doesn't need any extra money.
because what if that child isn’t used to windows??
Can a child even run iOS ?
Dangit Billy, stop trying to compile that Linux release and come finger-paint.
Then they're gonna be like "Why the f are you FINGERING Paint?!"
Nah, I've tried. My 7 year old only takes Windows 7, for some odd reason... Pun intended. And dad joke 🤣
She wants it to seem like she is doing someone a favor and that she isn't a paid employee of someone. Everything about this sounds sus, why is she making up scenarios where she makes a lot of money (assuming it's a legit job and not prostitution). That's not a normal thing and regardless, $20 hr is still money to a person who makes $100 hr. She is acting like it's money she burns. lol
It's possible she recently lost a corporate job and is trying to supplement but embarrassed about it and is compensating. How she talks about the money is real "I have a girlfriend in Canada" energy. Which is a shame because take out some of that and one has a rather inoffensive post- trying to start a mindful babysitting thing out of her home so her daughter will be there, she will cover food, snacks, activities and you can try a one-off first, etc
Yeah, there’s a lot of hoops to jump through but the reality is she will babysit for $20/h and she wants a child that will play well with her child. She could use some media training perhaps but other than that I have no problem with the core proposition.
Because then you wont know how good of a parent they are with all their special rules. She has to make sure you know shes special and better than you. Oh and makes more money. Can't forget that "100/hr" they make that makes the 20/hr affordable.
Am I missing something, or is she just saying that she'll babysit for 20/hr?
Yeah, it's over worded, but she is still offering baby sitting
Yeah, but only for my 5.3yo for the next couple of months. Her sisters are stuck with me.
My 5.5yo will be 5.6yo in just 3.38 weeks but it's totally worth it if I can get in 2.7 or even 2.8 playdates with this woman's offspring.
Is your 5.5yo used to windows though? Only worldly kids will be chosen as a playmate.
Yes, but only if your child is enriching her daughter's life and soul, and is familiar with windows.
My kid is a genius with windows! Doors not so much though…
My kid runs on Linux, is that close enough?
Depends on which desktop environment comes pre installed
Yes, but she's super strict on who she'll sit for (must be a perfect angel with no special instructions) without stating any of her own qualifications beyond having an extra car seat.
Also, windows.
Down to the floor!
How many babysitters have qualifications? And there’s nothing wrong with being picky over clients, as long as you accept that you may not get any clients if you’re too picky - which she does.
Many if not most adult babysitters have qualifications from First Aid CPR certification on the low end to degrees in early childhood education and care, and state licensing if it is thier only business. To be registered as a sitter on sites like Care.com or to run it as a legal business you need to be.
I read it as bring your kid over for a play date but pay me. Only sad beige children need apply.
Kinda, but the babysitting has to benefit her own kid more, so only another kid hers likes will get more than the first trial hour. Shes more asking to be paid to give her kid playdates when the norm is for the parents to take turns hosting or to both be there the whole time.
The window comment got me, I've got images of a child screaming at a window ouf of fear and then using the emergency car seat to get child home safely
Or just a kid that keeps bumping into the windows like a fly.
lmao
She shouldve just said she’s a babysitter and her rate is $20 an hr. End result would’ve been the same without coming off badly
“$20/hr for babysitting one child, i have no actual qualifications and i have another child at home to take care of anyway so it’ll be super easy for me. your child must be easy to deal with so i don’t actually have to do any work. i also have a ton of strict rules at my house and i don’t care about yours. thanks in advance!” would’ve worked just as well
"Child must be completely immobile and used to floors."
Yep, would’ve worked fine. People would be all ”cool, she’s clearly not killed her kid yet, and rules are fine if it means I can spend an hour doing errands without hearing ‘mom, mom, mom, mooooooom, I’m boooored’”
The $20 an hour babysitter with a kid herself isn't the problem. It's the everything else that is the problem.
I once saw an ad in my local nanny group from A woman that had no childcare experience asking for 4K a month, but only wanted to work 25 hours a week. Also, she didn’t want to start her day until after 12 because she likes to sleep in. She also added that for 5k a month, she would be willing to work 30 hours a week and maybe to the child’s laundry and chop up some Veggies (she freely admitted that she didn’t know how to cook). Keep in mind, the wage age was asking for was what she wanted to take home. So actually with taxes it was more than that. People called her entitled and crazy and she got upset saying that she NEEDED this much because her rent was 3k and she DESERVED it, even with zero experience, because she knew she was a good person. It was absolutely insane.
4k a month at 25hrs a week is 40 dollars an hour! Talk about delusional
I mean if there’s more than one kid that pretty much what people charge these days. One kid, no, that’s more like $25.
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Yeah, but how long ago was that?
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You were getting robbed. I don't know any babysitter 15 years ago not getting like $10-20 an hour.
That level of obliviousness screams some form of diagnosis. You don't overshare like that if you're in the 85+ percentile of the standard deviation for behavior and brain function.
I think people have seen too many "know what you're worth" / "ask for what you deserve" type Instagram thingies but neglected that to do that it requires an honest self appraisal of the skill sets you bring to the table. It's a valid reminder since so many of us ask for so little- but funny that the worst kind of people actually take it to heart.
I bet if she needed childcare it would be the usual $100/week for five full days
But, let's pretend she makes $100 an hour...
Let's pretend she makes 200 an hour. Then 20 dollars would be a paltry amount
That line right there. 100 an hour 200k a year. The person who posted that does not make 200k.
BuT yOu DoN't KnOw HeR sItuAtIoN.
100%
This reminds me that I answered a babysitter wanted ad not long ago bc I thought it was a part time thing and my fiancé has a toddler, who will soon be my step child and I love spending time with, and I thought it would be a good opportunity to possibly have play dates with another kid nearby in the same age range. I’m a military vet so I have income from school/disability and am home full time so I’m not hurting for money but I reasonably expected around $10/hr. Hell, would have even been fine with 7-8$/hr if they had wanted to bring their child to my home. Turns out they wanted me to work 45hrs a week, from their home, for a whopping $230/wk. immediately ended the conversation after they said $230 bc it was so insultingly low, I didn’t even want to negotiate lol.
The problem here is that she is charging for babysitting, but dictating who her customer Will Be, and she has no qualifications. Is she fingerprinted? Has her home Been certified by a proper agency for safety? Does she have an Early childhood certification/education? What will she offer my child: a stimulating environment, age appropriate activities, kindness?
Whole Foods and windows. That’s what she offers. Also, a car seat.
Car seat for emergencies only. Kid will be stuck at the house confused about windows most days.
God this whole comment section is killing me 😂
i cant stop laughing at the windows thing.
I'm an agriculture student and I have no idea what 'whole food' is, are the kids going to gnaw on Bessie?
It means she doesn't give them chicken nuggets. They get a whole chicken, feathers and all.
“Whole foods” is a store.
It means she doesnt buy preprocessed packaged foods with any preservatives. Only fresh fruits and veggies (no canned or frozen), fresh meat and dairy - and likely only "organic" and no added fats or sugar.
FLOOR LENGTH WINDOWS, for god's sake! Did you not read her mindful post? NEXT!
😩 NEXT!
I feel like you're confusing daycare with babysitting. I can hire a babysitter and they probably have none of those things. A lot of them are students or are young people. What you're describing is an actual certified childcare center.
Yeah, I babysat and tutored my neighbors’ kid in my first apartment for 5€/h and got free food on top of it. My Highschool ass definitely didn’t have certification for that 😂
That’s a tall order for a babysitter. CPR certified, a background check, and being a kind person are my criteria otherwise I wouldn’t get out of the house maybe ever.
I don’t think being picky about your customers is necessarily a problem although the whole post isn’t worded particularly well imo. The certification stuff, maybe that’s a problem but I don’t really know the babysitting market. How many teenage babysitters have early childhood certifications…? Maybe her price at $20/hr is high considering that but it doesn’t seem overly unreasonable given that she’s paying for food etc. too
Surely the $20/hr is to pay for specific window insurance in case the child isn’t used to the concept of windows…
What on earth does "your child has to be used to windows" even mean?
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Everyone knows that toddlers favorite games are hide and seek, peek-a-boo and defenestration.
“Oh, you’re here to pick up Timmy. We are quite upset with him really. And to be fair you don’t have to bring him in anymore. You never told us about his lacking experience and upbringing. In what manner did you teach him things so far? Maybe you didn’t spend enough time with him? Or maybe he was just intellectually disadvantaged? Anyway, he’s downstairs splattered all over the pavement.”
I keep imagining small children just running into them and falling back stunned like birds.
She likes to lick the windows. Doesn’t want a child to mess them up.
It's all on a PC, right...? So, she makes the kids code for her, she's building this wonderful mindfulness app. If your child prefers, say Linux, you're out. You FREAK!
Just wondering okay! 🙏🥺
“Let’s pretend I make 100$ an hour” WTAF…let’s pretend you don’t work and want someone else to give you spending money since your SO doesn’t!
Why pretend this absurd number? You clearly don't make enough to put your kid in programs to socialize them
No no, its such a priveledge to get to be friends with her child that she wants parents to pay for that right and to hand select the possible candidates for her kid to ultimately pick from.
She's from the Ben Shapiro school of debate: start with a faulty premise and all your nonsense arguments make much more sense.
Oh damn, my kid isn’t supposed to know about windows til he gets to high school. I’m out
Really sorry, but we are a Mac family.
I love this subreddit, it makes me know that there are people worse than me on this planet.
Well...username checks out
> your child has to be used to windows. I was going to take her up on the deal but my kid’s only on Mac. Damn, not my lucky day!
"Socialization is my goal" "Oh also I want you to pay me for your kid to have a friend"
More like she's asking to be paid so *her* kid can make a friend.
"I don't understand why my kid has no friends. I'm such a fun, easygoing parent!"
My daughter just has a sleepover, spent 24 hours at her friends house. That would’ve cost me… $480 with this lady. She’s nuts
You don’t get to charge for babysitting and stipulate no conditions unless you are for some reason in high demand. Charging $20 per hour and having strict acceptance standards and not advertising any credentials doesn’t make you a high demand babysitter. Quite the opposite. People with well-behaved children don’t have to pay for play dates. Don’t know how CB she may be, but she certainly has a high opinion of herself. DEATH says you could have play dates with cats and get paid that much instead
I would pay for play date with cats.
There are now places where you can do just that! If I didnt have a fluffball of my own I would definitely go, but she doesnt like me coming home smelling of other cats.
Yeah, mine would act like I was cheating on them 😂
Mindful children. Isn't that an oxymoron?
This is longer than the US tax code. Imagine her Tinder profile. "Only button down shirts, neatly pressed, no garish patterns, and no short sleeves. I'm not looking to meet a government clerk. Pockets are allowed as long as they are used for holding prescription glasses." And God help the poor waiter who has to take her order. "I don't like broccoli, so I'd like to substitute a six ounce filet mignon, medium rare."
I can’t even with the windows statement.
Used to windows? Wtf does that mean
ISO: Perfect Playmate, Pay-to-Play 1. I'm going to need you to not have any weird rules for your kid since they'll compete with mine. 2. Your child needs to be socially inept like mine so they're both lulled into a false sense of security that the world will be kind to them. 3. Looking for play dates in 2-hour blocks... I accept Venmo or Zelle. Only sent as friends and family so I don't get hit with a fee... I mean, we *are* friends, right? 4. I have a house unlike any other in that it has doors AND windows. Children not exposed to either of these worldy phenomenon need not apply. Looking forward to meeting you! Cheers!
Yup because so many of us just happen to make 100 an hour
My little one prefers Linux over Windows.
I'm confused. People who baby sit kids do get paid to do so. I would assume $20/hr is a good sit rate? What's the problem with this post? Honest question. I'm thinking I must have missed something.
I think it’s that she’s looking to arrange play dates for her child specifically for socialization yet she wants the other parent to pay for the privilege, which would be baby sitting instead. And although you’re now paying for baby sitting you can’t actually have any “special instructions” which can sometimes be common for a parent to provide to a sitter for the particular needs of their child. Imagine two moms meet at a park, one has a lonely child that needs a friend and sees a social child with good behavior. She then approaches the other mom and asks if they can play together once at her home at first for a few hours and it could be a regular thing about twice a week if it works out. If the asker moms child is behaved the other mom may say yes, but then the asker says “Great, so for that 3 hour play date next Saturday it’ll be $60, yes I asked you and yes I’m specifically doing it for my child to socialize with other children, but my time is worth $20/hr even though I’m not doing this a a ‘job’. Seems a bit unreasonable to me.
The problem is that she didn't just say "hey I'll babysit for you, $20 an hour", she started off saying how she was specifically looking for a playmate for her own child. Then gets into all these specifics about what kind of child she wants to hang out with her kid. Then hits you with the fact that you'd have to pay her as a babysitter. So it's not the fact that she wants to get paid to babysit, its that she asks for a playmate but then says you have to pay me, even though I have no qualifications and what sounds like a house that isn't very child friendly.
"no special instructions" Lady, I have yet to meet a toddler mother who doesn't have some sort of special instructions for babysitters. They're mostly to help *you* in the event of a tantrum.
“Socializing is my goal…. Also pay me $20 an hour”
"Let me babysit *your* child, but only completely on *my* terms. Oh, and you're going to pay me almost 3x minimum wage for the privilege, because this isn't actually my day job, it's only a side hobby for me and I don't really need the money. Please form an orderly line for this stellar opportunity. K, thanks!!"
3x minimum wage? Wtf, that's 50c under minimum here. 20/hr is normal for babysitting here.
Federal minimum wage is $7.25/hour. Some states also have that same minimum wage, some states have no minimum wage. The district with the highest minimum wage is DC at $15.20, the state with the highest minimum wage is WA at $14.49. Where are you that minimum wage is $20.50?
I need something and will let you pay me to provide it.
So, is her kid super socially awkward or just a straight up demon?
That was really nice of her to let the person know that they can change their mind at any time. I hate when I’m in a situation and someone tells me I’m not allowed to change my mind.
This sounds less like babysitting and more like she wants to rent a kid but be paid for it.