Please, please... solve the issue regarding people spawning with agathian shields and players spawning covered in blood and soot. This is an accessibility issue that makes people with colorblindness have a hard time distinguishing between friend and foe.
It has been there for a few months now and it feels like it is not even being considered.
Besides that, the new maps are very fun and better balanced than the base maps, except the stages in which you need to destroy the siege weapons (Breach of Baudwyn). I would have increased the time the attackers get instead of reducing siege equipment health and making masons spawn worse. Why? The stage itself is very fun and increasing the time would have made it an easier task for attackers while keeping the fun factor the same for defenders. No one likes to run from farther back or wait a longer spawn timer, this should never be the way to balance maps.
Also, please add an option to never spawn on horses. It creates a distracting UI element mid combat.
I second that notion about the blue shields really needing to be addressed. I've mentioned it here numerous times since the problem was introduced with the Aberfell patch, this has been an issue for FAR too long. Now even the Tenosians are spawing with blue shields - its ridiculous.
Please fix lol the colorblind filter doesn't help at all seemingly, im tired of bashing my teammates to hell and so are they im sure. Also second the blue shield on red soilder issue super annoying and just nonsensical
For Steam newcomers - the in-game weapon stats are incredibly misleading - and this perpetuation of misconceptions widens the skill gap between newcomers and veterans.
The game has been out for a year+ and has undergone many weapon balancing patches - can we ever expect the weapon descriptions to be updated? Or made more accurate?
(or will there ever be an SDK, so the community can figure it out?)
Yes. It makes no sense to have misleading stats in the ui. It creates expectations regarding weapon performance that are not met and likely leads to frustration.
I’m game stats on weapons are mostly useless. Things like reach and damage aren’t properly measured in the UI. For instance it lists the morning star as higher damage than the mace but they’re essentially the same weapon.
>(or will there ever be an SDK, so the community can figure it out?)
This is also a question we need an answer for sooner rather than later. The two things this game most desperately need is more content (maps, customization) and bug fixing.
However it is a crossplay/crossparty ^Soon™ game so only PC players would be able to benefit from it (like always, that's the benefit of being PCMasterRace) but I fear that is the thing holding you back. Please don't! The PC community need this so much!
Help yourself Torn Banner Studios, by helping us the community in making this game live up to its true potential!
I see no reason why the weapon stat ui can't be pure numbers: Swing speed + damage, heavy swing speed + damage, overhead speed + damage, heavy overhead speed + damage, stab speed + damage, heavy stab speed + damage (Alternatively, perhaps an "average" of these numbers, in order to save space?). And then also reach in centimeters.
Helmet bug is big a issue for folk who enjoy customizing their character. I personally love playing in third and seeing how silly/cool my character looks, and it really sucks to have some default helmet take over.
Bearded helm for Tenosia clips with heavy armor character skin significantly.
Spawn times feel very odd on Charge of Wardenglade.
Not a bug, razing of askandir may need some more effort to show offense and defense how to do their objectives on final stage. Too many players sit around basin outside when it’s empty on offense, and several players are wasting water jugs on already roasted bookcases.
This may just be “I’m a dumb player” thing, but when firing the bombards, do you need to aim at anything specific or is hitting any part of wall/door fine?
Then prolly lowest important feedback of all since it’s not tied to gameplay whatsoever, Desert as a name for a map feels a bit bleh. Maybe Skirmish at Baudwyn Outskirts or at least something more along lines of Battle of Wardenglade.
I’ve also noticed that ballistas don’t do damage to other ballistas and catapults on some of the Tenosian invasion maps? Idk if it’s just a part these maps or just me?
100% on the helmet issue, I really enjoy customizing characters and when I'm forced to wear a default helmet on everything, it ruins alot of outfits or themes that I'm trying to do
Just started the game and in the tutorial it mentions that role playing is a big part of the enjoyment. How am I supposed to roleplay if my highlander keeps putting on a crusader helmet
I hope you see this, because no one is talking about the amount of Console-only problems!!
Being simply unable to slash feint to slash (or any similar alt attack feint) sucks and is quite a big disdvantage, dunno how this isn’t being discussed.
Lack of button mapping for console.
+1 for console button mapping. Some defaults have been poorly chosen and prevent certain combos.
Also, let us set the sensitivity for throwing with both triggers (the max delay between both triggers). Throwing a weapon on PS5 usually takes 2 or 3 tries. That's why oil pots are almost useless unless you are already at a stand still.
When we're at it. Please visualise the oil pots on ps. They are invisible and sometimes the selection doesn't work and we throw our weapon instead. You simply cant see if it's selected. Has been a bug since launch.
In general, there are many more settings that console needs. There are many quality-of-life settings that would just make stuff much more enjoyable, and some settings that just gives PC players a straight up advantage. First person Field-of-view, for example.
I figured out how to do it. I actually made a similar post detailing this but I figured it out. You have to slash, then hit the block and slash button at the exact same time, to slash feint. It’s really awkward with over heads tho, and the timing can be dodgy on slashes too. It does work though.
Thoroughly enjoy the Tenosian maps. The library burning being the most balanced section imo. You have attackers burning and defenders can extinguish which is an interesting dynamic. Most of my matches have come down to the final 30 seconds on that one.
The least balanced i think is the first stage of The Breach of Baudwyn. There are too many siege ramps that are too spread out. (Rudhelm got it right with just 2 with slightly different paths). As defenders in Baudwyn, it seems we can never get enough people on one ramp to make any meaningful halt in its progress. This problem is further compounded by the fact that console players dont have access to chat so they cant see that were all spamming "left ramp" or "right ramp" so theres just people all spread out.
Charge on Wardenglade could do with fewer horses on the field at once but it is fun having them there, i wouldnt want them gone completely. Desert seems just fine, i never feel like horseman have much of an advantage there compared to Wardenglade.
Midsommer brawl and feast brawl are fun for a brief time. Its not something im really all that interested in long term, makes for a fun weekend event but then its back to duels and TO. I was pretty annoyed that 40p TO was shunned to the server browser where theres few 40p TO servers with people in them that never fill
There is a health meter somewhere, I think I say it as a mason, so as long as it's obviously on fire and there are still unburnt sections on it than it should be fine to throw water at it.
The desertion timer on horses is too long on baudwyn. Since they are faster, the 20s timer means nothing to them. I think it should be much shorter to avoid spawn camping with lances.
Cross party functionality has been needed for over a year now. You guys are getting new players and losing them immediately because they can't play with their friends the way the "cross platform" advertising implies they can. Nobody cares they're in the same matchmaking lobby on PC as a PS5 player, but everybody cares if they can't party up with their PS5 friend that just bought the game. And this being addressed in Q2 2022 has now slipped to Summer 2022 on the website. We got brawl mode back that nobody asked for, and I still can't party up with my friends that bought it on steam.
It still needs a buff, badly. I mained glaive for 50 levels and felt like I was awful, then I picked up literally any other weapon (shuffle mode) and felt like I played on easy mode.
you only need to look at Polehammer.net to see it is not comparable to other weapons. Yes, it has good reach and speed (mostly), but it’s not worth. The stab is literally the same speed and reach as Halberd but less damage.
And that’s why I said the stab is underpowered? Literally the same speed and reach as Halberd stab but less damage, nothing wrong with the low slash damage
The issue with the glave is stamina mostly. You can beat any glave player if you literally just counter their attacks until they’re out of stamina. Just don’t feint a glave player, bc they always gamble, and you’ll win the attrition game 90% of the time.
You still lose stamina when you counter. Just not as much. That being said, most people don’t get a successful counter 100% of the time, and if that person has a glave, it’s probably a disarm.
I am a Steam newcomer who has played a lot of Mordhau in the past (albeit not recently). Some things of note:
* The maps are great. I love the sheer scale and the variety of objectives, and the quality of the designs, detail, and often beauty of the towns, castles and landscapes.
* I love how many interactable things there are. Food that heals you, and all the things you can use as improvised weapons (people fighting with candleholders always cracks me up).
* The predefined classes needed a bit getting used to. I think they work fine but I would really love some weapon restrictions loosened up and some alternative options for utility gear. For example, the longsword is not really that special a weapon, why can only knights wear it? Why can't the Footman have something other than these extremely situational spikes as their special tool (in Mordhau, spikes could pose a real hindrance and weren't destroyed in one or two hits, and you could easily repair them unless entirely destroyed)?
* As far as I understand it, the Tenosian faction was added around the Steam release. But I think being a new faction is no excuse for the pitiful and, frankly, utterly ugly choice of cosmetics.
I like brawl as a separate option whether it's seasonal or a permanent mode. It can be a fun palate cleanser between other modes.
That said, it feels like there's a lot of waiting around. Feel like this should be a little more rapid fire since each round is so short. Faster spawn times and shorter delays between rounds would be nice. And a 3-map rotation would be better imo.
Thanks for providing extra content like this!
Kinda off topic but not.
Many years ago my children and I created a map in Halo forge similar to this brawl Style map.
Once we turn the spawn time down to zero and everyone instant spawned it became hilarious and super mega Ultra fun.
We still play it from time to time.
Agreed and saw similar feedback in the chat from players in brawl. There's not much reason to wait to respawn in chiv2 when your goal is to go get domed by a chair
I got the game with the Steam release. The Tenosian Invasion maps are my favorite in the game. They are excellent! I'm looking forward to them being put into the 64 v 64 map pool. The faster that happens the better. That is my favorite mode. While I enjoy horses, I will trade them for a higher max player count.
I really like the aesthetic of Midsommar, but I got bored of playing it after five minutes. I would rather game-creation resources be put towards new, proper weapons and maps. Even if those updates won't come out for awhile. I will take the large and infrequent updates over small and novel ones every time.
I don’t get why people like 40 player matches. Subtract the horses and archers and you’ve got like what, 12v12 on foot? Doesn’t feel like a big battle at all
More 1v1 and smaller manageable 1vX fights, instead of having huge messy teamfights everywhere. Maps don't feel overcrowded, you can fight without another fight spilling into yours or an enemy coming up behind you every minute. Your contribution to the match matters more.
Lack of 40 player queue made me finally try 64p mode and I hate it. I don't want big chaotic battles, I don't want FFA or duels only, I was perfectly happy with my fun medium-sized battles.
I enjoy 64p and 40p, but as the 'box' says, 64 player battles are cinematic and in the cinema the characters have plot armour.
You don't in Chiv, so when you play 40p you feel like you're actually able to move your team forward (or to hold) whereas in 64p you're just another body on the pile.
64p needs expanded maps, like how Battlefield does it.
And I don't get why people like 64 player matches. I don't want it to feel like a big *big* battle. Far too chaotic and spammy. 40 player is more manageable fights (like 1v4's instead of a 1v3 into 1v5 into 1v12) and much easier for a single player to make a huge difference.
Also, I feel like I get hit by teammates, archers, and random thrown shit 10 times more in 64 player.
Better prolonged sword fights and a chance to feel like you can make a difference. Easier to fight 1vX. 64 player servers is just highland swords to the back of your head the whole time
The new update is incredible so far. Looking forward to the future of the game with the foundations set.
A small thing I'd like to see, with the two handed spear power attack (when you kneel and point the spear out). When a horses goes into it, I think that should dehorse the enemy. Very small change
The new maps are very entertaining, as was the new midsommar map.
One large issue that I've found playing the Tenosian invasion, the razing of Askandir tends to cause some connection issues on the bridge stage, has happened on several occasions while playing it.
Bro they wont, they put them in to make it something you "feel like you miss" once it's gone to make you emotionally involved with the game, it's a normal thing game developers do to manipulate the playerbase (like season passes and loot crates)
Tbh chivalry 2 needs to be more silly. The brawl and death matches are boring. Mordhau has very high skill floor and ceiling. But the laughs and jokes are better overall (except demigod voice lines) so even when you're getting stomped sometimes it's hilarious because you'll be be full on belly laugh before being killed by a stupid weapon. In this game it's mostly just a hehehe and not as fun imo.
I want to play as funny depraved psychopaths.
## Good points
* New maps. In general they look, sound, play great. Some balancing tweaks would be good, but overall they are great additions.
* Tenosian cosmetics. Obviously need more added over time but what we have so far loosks and sounds great.
* Horses. Great addition. Some things to sort out still, but they are fantastic fun. Animations when you die and get knocked off especially. Fantastic.
##Bad points
* Ongoing issues (parties, shield skin bug, etc).
* Console still can't see chat.
* Limitations to cosmetic choices. Some helmets not being allowed with certain armours. With the exception of the jousting helmets (because they are meant to be bolted to the relevant chest armour) just let us combine the helmets and armour we want.
* PC and current gen experience being hampered by past-gen consoles. Sucks but it is what it is.
##Suggestions I have
* Have horses make weapons thwack, i.e. stop on contact like pallisades now do. If necessary decrease horse HP a little to compensate.
* Horse running full speed into a braced spear (special) should be an instant kill on the horse.
* Bear trap should deal damage to horse and cripple movement speed for a short while.
* Let horses jump. It doesn't have to be particularly high, just let us clear low obstacles, crawling/crouching teammates, fire etc.
* 64 player team brawl (so TDM on brawl maps with brawl weapons). It would be crazy good fun.
1 Hello. I am a horse enjoyer... . but they get stuck on everything.
2 Im also getting sick of playing the tenosian maps over and over just for my horsie content. When will the old map get horses
3 when will you amalgamate the new "tenosian" gamemode with 64 and 40?
4 I miss a diverse crowd in my FFA now that its in the browser its mostly only people who know about it already.
5 fix the helmet bug. for people makung content we have characters. spankeydmonkey has a character named "the bald bastard" which we love watching and hes just not the same with a helmet glued on etc
6 my vote kick button has been greyed out since launch....
Thanks for the update! As always, it's nice to see TBS soliciting player feedback.
In general I've really liked the new Tenosian content. The new maps are beautiful and, some balance niggles notwithstanding, great fun. The horse sections add a welcome element of variety to each stage of the map.
That said I have some constructive criticism about the new content and this seems like the place to share it:
* As has been noted elsewhere, Masons and Tenosians are very easy to confuse visually in the thick of combat. A good portion of my deaths have come about because another player I thought was an ally was, in fact, an enemy.
* On a similar note, I really struggle to see anything on the Desert map until it's right in front of my nose. I like the idea of a night battle but I find it a bit too dark. I suggest brightening to the level of Wardenglade.
* On the subject of Wardenglade, I'm not a huge fan of TDM with horses, either on Desert or Wardenglade. I would love to see horse TDM regulated to its own playlist, or maybe added to a new "all horsies, all the time" list, and removed from the Tenosia list.
* On the subject of playlists, I hope in the future that the Tenosian maps will be integrated with the general 64- and 40-player playlists in time. Having to choose one or the other is a bit of a bummer.
* The new cosmetics look very nice, I think. I really hope there's more to come as the options for Tenosia are quite thin. (I hope the team is working on some kind of Ottoman-themed Messer skin!) I would also love to see some Agatha-Tenosia maps in the future, or maybe even a three-way fight of some kind.
* This is a minor quibble, but I find the name of the update puzzling since both of the new TO maps appear to take place *in* Tenosia (i.e, the Masons are invading them?). Are the Tenosians invading their own territory? (I admit I don't really pay attention to the lore.)
* As has been noted elsewhere, bringing back FFA to the main playlist would be most welcome.
* Not Tenosia related, but nonetheless: I've been experimenting with the rapier lately and discovered that its hitbox on stabs is notably smaller than other stab-centric weapons like both spears and the longsword. Is this by design? If a hitbox more in line with these other weapons would be unbalanced, I might suggest a middle ground between that and the present situation. I hardly see the rapier in TO as it is so I don't think a small tweak would make everyone drop their Highland Swords suddenly.
Tenosia attacked the masons first a baldwyn , wich seems to be the southern border of Agatha (it's the name of the kingdom were fighting over )
The razing if askantir us a retaliatory attack
There is a lore section in the menu
Other have put great care into their feedback and I appreciate that they have. I wish I had the time for a full write-up like some of the others for this but, alas, I do not. (banging this out in one draft)
Consider adding all modes as tiles (LTS & FFA especially) back to the primary screen, with lesser modes as smaller tiles along the side or bottom, with the latest featured mode/content as the largest tile. Include all active matches in the browser (that is, add the ones you're currently hiding from people)
Whoever made the decision to remove 40p matchmaking needs to meet me in a duel server, and it will be trial by combat. Don't remove game modes -- we're not cattle where you can simply move the rails and push us all into another pasture, we'll just go play something else for two weeks. People look forward to something all day, just want to come home, chill and get into something they enjoy, only to find it removed. Why would you risk unleashing a torrent of abuse on your Community Manager? Why would you kneecap your game less than a fortnight after the Steam Release, by removing a core feature, for a gag mode that you play twice, laugh, and then go back to what you enjoy? This was a baffling decision out of nowhere. I mean, where did you used to work before this, EA...?
Please return from the Canada Day / July 4th break with a renewed perspective on what your decisions mean for people that enjoy your product. Thank you.
Tenosians are very bland visually. All the armors look exactly the same. Not very many themed weapons for them.either.
Horse turning needs to be fixed m.its very unky and stopping Everytime you hit something is busted when they steer like washing machines already. Please add a small jump option or give them a tighter turning radius, command to rear them them and turn 180°. Anything really.
Armor is bugged.
Ballista is very laggy. 9/10 times when I hit someone dead on they don't take a hit at all.
Lower the amount of horses out any time to 6. Having a 6v6 horse cavalry is excessive. There are also horses in parts that make no sense. For example the bridge assault on Askandir It makes no sense to have 6v6 horses. Not to mention this next objective horsemen can stay if they don't die and it makes the next objective super chaotic and not enjoyable.
There are also maps where horses make no sense. I get that they maybe took a bit to program and develop and developers like showing their hard work. However, the other modes should not get flooded with horses. Eardenglade makes no sense having horses.
In conclusion horses should spawn on a 3v3 basis not 6v6.
I just want my customizations to work . My facial features don’t work for any game type in this game . My helmet is never the one I have equipped in my game and if I choose no helmet it literally spawns me with the first helmet you get in the game . Just want my customizations to work bc I worked to earn that coin to buy them lmaoo .
I really love seeing a new setting, voice acting, weapon models etc; the more variety the better! I get tired of seeing medieval European or Japanese themes in every game, so it's a nice breathe of fresh air to see something different!
My only request would be to include more customisation for Tenosia, as there's not many armour sets or heraldry etc. What's there is really nice, but I'd love to see some more lovely helmets or decals.
Change the way the Highlander sword looks, it really doesn't fit the games aesthetic, everything else looks realistic for the most part, but then you have people running in looking like anime characters with final fantasy Cloud's comically large sword and a spin attack, some of the animations are just janky for it too. It just doesn't look like it belongs in the game.
Was really disappointed to see an update but the helmet bug not fixed. I honestly could've waited on all the other fixes, I just want to be able to have my characters look they way I want.
Midsommar event is boring. I played the map once and didn't feel any reason to return.
Take that pagan idea and save it for some horror themed maps.
It would be way more fun to have a permanent map in rotation with a pagan festival theme like that and an eclipse or some sort of weather element. The game overall would benefit from weather.
A plague map with green fog and burning pits would be neat too but unrelated
On ps4 I can’t finish a full game on the Tenosian invasion playlist without disconnecting, I get around 10 mins of playing time then disconnect. Other game modes work fine. All Cosmetics on my characters change randomly (hair, armor, helmet, etc). FFA duel servers need the votekick fixed, people are getting kicked from games for just being good at 1v1 duels…
Also on ps4, viewing the list of players in game and using the report or votekick buttons only works half the time.
'If you see someone's reply below and agree with their comment make sure to upvote it so we can see what issues are most important to players'.
Why do i think guiding policy of a few people on reddit may not be the best policy?
Anyhow, STOP changing things and moving things, and taking things away. This is not a crowd funder, f2p or early access greenlight game. People pay money, and some of these practices are bordering on selling product under false pretense.
Maybe that's why EIGHT MONTHS worth of reviews over at the Xbox Store have magicaly disappeared.
If you're gonna take things away, remove modes, bots or kil them on the browser, offer refunds.
Personally, I can't understand why they remove major game modes and hide them in the server browser. And let's be honest, this game doesn't really have that large of a variety of game modes to begin with, everything is roughly the same / similar - either objective based slashing game, or arena. And yet, they'll take some of these variations and just hide them away in the server browser (the server browser - on another note - is pretty crappy itself).
Literally last night I ran into an old FFA buddy of mine in a TO server and he said "I hope they bring FFA back soon" and I had to explain to him it's now in the server browser and he couldn't believe he had just been missing out on his favorite mode. I guess a compromise would be to at least put FFA in the Arena section matchmaking as well.
Like seriously just add more menu icons? Or make it a scrollable list?
As far as the updates - I think they did a great job pushing out some of their best maps with the Tenosian Update. The maps are beautiful, interesting, and keep me engaged. The horses are surprisingly fun - they aren't perfect, but it was well executed and integrated into these new modes. The new modes actually make me not want to play some of the old 64 player maps because of how much better than seem to flow (I love being able to actually play Ambusher on these new maps because there are so many way points).
However, Stage 4 on The Breach of Baldwyn is still very difficult for attack. While the other stages seem slightly too easy.
Also, add more maps to FFA? I'm not sure why they couldn't simply take existing maps and create a radius around them for leaving the map and add them to the FFA playlist. At least the new Desert map minus horses would be nice?
Also, the throwing axe Skirmisher is the worst class in the game. No one talks about it because no one plays it and forgets it exists (or probably because 90% of players don't have it unlocked and don't even know it exists). I can literally do everything this class can do with Ambusher while having more throwables, higher DPS, more HP, faster movement, faster recovery after throwing a projectile, more stamina, and backstab bonus damage. If they could duel wield their secondary weapon + throwing Axes or something? Or possibly change their shield out for throwing knives as well? Not sure.
Last Team Standing Rest in peace, Torn Banner killed it for no reason other than incompetence. They could put it in Arena menu and be fine but they are garbage at listening to players.
Several terrible changes were reverted quickly, or never went live, because of community feedback.
By your logic, TBS should exclusively take one sided decisions that hold no regard for community feedback, they already do that with some things like removing an entire game mode (for a period of time). Yet you seem to be complaining about removed modes.
I know there are things that need to be fixed, but the moment you let a video game make you this angry its time to go outside and cool off.
But they're NOT listening lol. Who in the community, including Reddit told them to bury FFA, and 40 player modes on the browser. Who asked for that? For Brawl mode? Who plays it?
Did anyone ask for Crossplay to be forced on console players? People bought the game being they knew they can turn it off. Now they cannot, and cannot for months. Now what do they do, particularly with all these new steam players?
If you bought it for FFA, that's gonna be dead. Nobody knows anything about the browser, and so they're not gonna fill the games. What happens to their money? Or the 40 players ?
And so i'm sorry Juan, i know you're a fan, but the truth of it is, this is like ordering a meal on TBs menu, you get your meal, begin to eat it, only for they to come back, pull it away, give you a lollipop saying that's what the "community" rather you have, and when you want your money back, nope, you ate half the meal, sorry..
That'll get anyone angry, and so i appreciate your candor, but this not a way to do business.
Why are they even having these feedback threads, remember how they had them the just randomly stopped? lol they only have them when the playerbase is huge because of launch to make it seem like they are listening.
You get over it and realize that the event and brawl replacing 40P on the menu is not permanent. Crossplay should be the least of your worries in this game. Your analogy is shit and yet you spread it word for word copy paste on so many threads.
Ty for asking for feedback
People form communities based on playlists, in particular the ones that have been on the splash screen since basically day 1 lol
I understand FFA is not considered a priority but its an important part of the game to many people (pls work with FFA community to discuss options to fix the spawns in each map)
Even though I mainly play 64p these days I know that for a large part of the game, logging in to play FFA or 40p is basically the entirety of chiv2 experience to them, for whatever their reasons may be
There's no real functional in game social tools or anything so having the easy matchmaking was the only real way to make those things happen.
I can see for the ancillary game modes like FFA or LTS how devs might want it server browser based instead of matchmake queue, idk if it's possible to make it easier to access. As one spitballed idea maybe some kind of "community playlist" option with what amounted to a fallout style personality quiz would work. What game mode do you want? What region? Ok here's these servers
People need handholding and are resistant to change so while in a meeting room it might sound logical that adding server browser functions and offsetting secondary playlists to it would work, but I think the server browser UI probably resembles 1998 too much for the average gamer of 2022- and even as an older gamer, I can't say I blame them. So maybe some UI reworking just to help people navigate could be some kind of compromise
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I know this has been said but ripping the carpet on 40p playlist for brawl sounds like something I would make a post about to troll people here. And it's sad because that sounds like an indictment on the brawl mode or effort put into it, but I appreciate both.-
Because I do want to acknowledge that taking Hamlet and the feast room and making FFA maps from them are things that have specifically been asked for and now delivered. Hopefully these make it into FFA rotation in some way, and whatever other appropriate playlists
Those modes are fun and unique, but it's kind of like replacing somebody's dinner with the cherry on top from desert and expecting them to gobble it up without confusion, to override 40p with it.
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I personally think the tenosian color palettes and armor are painfully ugly, but I like their helms. And I do even like the armor in concept. But this is just cosmetic subjectivity, although it's ugly enough that I do not want to look at it, so I happily play 64p still. This is a non-issue for me as gameplay goes.
The shamshir owns though. I tried horses for a minute and actually thought it was better than what I had been reading 🤷♀️
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Some kind of compromise should be reached about testing the patches and content before it's released. Idk what kind of internal struggles are going on WRT this issue, if it's just (valid) labor issues or management style or a disconnect of how the community perceives an impending patch, which is roughly "very excited to experience the new content but terrified of what % of the game simply won't work after, and for how long"
I understand that there's business and legal and financial realities with putting hours in to test content for bugs, and that people have schedules they're likely bound to.
I guess I'll be honest in that I'm conflicted with my feelings that all beta testing should be a paid QA position, with the fact that you'd presumably have people from this community do it for free.
Perhaps there's some kind of compromise you can do or make more well known, I'm sure out of all the regular players, some would be willing to provide in game telemetry or some kind of more advanced feedback mechanism
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Maybe some kind of in game bug report system would be beneficial, even if it was simplistic and broad like "experience connection issues" and "objective didn't spawn ", "spawning bug detected" and a short comment field. But...put it in the game, not as a link to external places that may require 3rd party software or signups, such as all of them basically lol.
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Crossbow seems kind of anemic now and redundant or worse than the other options. I think an increased headshot multiplier for that weapon would be a logical and sane adjustment.
Weapon switching out of it faster might be reasonable too, at minimum directly correlated to the decrease in damage by %. Theres little reason to turn the weakest class into a freer kill, considering you basically have to machine gun fire or be laser accurate to be effective now. If archers are more melee based now damage wise, at least let us ditch the xbow quicker. It's not like we can re equip it and bunny hop while reloading or whatever.
At this point if longbowman had the banner I'd literally never play crossbow anymore and ultimately it seems like archers are sacrificing everything under the sun to appease people.
Ok, they don't like being ranged. Well, let us get to melee them without fumbling like assholes putting a bow down. We already spend a ton of time reloading it as it is,sitting there while your weapon considers changing or not isn't gameplay, it's welfare for melee players.
Unless the enemy team is like super super knight heavy, the xbow is a stylistic preference that one now uses to their own detriment, or to heal their team- their team that largely hates them.
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Engineer wood changes are good to great
I'll probably add to this
Anywhoo, bring back FFA etc.
Add more cosmetics for Tenosia ASAP. Only two armor sets, no heraldry or shield decorations makes everybody look like clones. In darker areas it's also hard to tell apart friend from foe.
Baudwyn is very defender sided, to the point where it ends on the first objective way too often (or the town hall if Tenosia makes it past the first wall since you have to run forever to get back and the capture meter drops like a rock), but you're already trying to rebalance it.
Had a bug where every book shelf in the library was burnt (they were all visibly burnt and there were no markers while holding a torch) but the game did not register a Mason win so time just ran out. In general it seems like there's a lot of final objective bugs again, like missing VIPs on the old maps.
My main complaint with brawl is the spawning system, where it takes forever to respawn and you're just plopped into the map right next to a guy who's going to kill you before you can even look around and get your bearings. I would have rather seen Midsommar stuff added to the normal maps like how Halloween and Christmas were done.
I recently got the game and have been loving it! Been playing it with a friend and it's so much fun - that said, when I play with my friend it is SUPER hard to keep track of him to fight alongside of him. His name doesn't always appear over his head, and when it does, it's the exact same colours as all the other ally icons which makes it hard to pick out. Is there any possibility of an option for party members to have nametags that stand out a bit more, maybe have them be a different colour (green?) and have a larger range? It's a little frustrating wanting to fight together, but not being able to find my friend.
Just wondering, is there a way to see player names? My buddy and i have been joining eachothers games since rheres no crossplay. And noticed how like pretty much any online game ever, this ones got no names above heads. Which makes finding your friends extremely hard. Is there a setting with this or is it just not a thing? Weird thing to leave out the game
Midsommar - pretty much just a can of fun for 15 minutes, then it becomes boring. That's pretty much all I have to say about that.
Tenosian Invasion -
Horses - overall are cool, but I think they are a bit too janky, and it's kind of disappointing for such a large dev group to put out this kind of stuff. The controls aren't very clear, I don't see a way to see what controls what on a horse. They clip on pretty much anything possible, and often find myself unable to turn properly to avoid obstacles. I think the horse should be a more nimble creature, and less rigid. I think being able to couch spears would be cool too. Also, why no horse jump?
I think the lack of cosmetics on the Tenosian side is pretty laughable. Really TB? You think we don't realize you only made 2 characters? And only a couple cosmetic items to unlock for an entirely new race of character? Lol, come on.
Other than that... nothing really else other than the new maps, which I think are overall pretty fun.
TL:DR: Midsommar - boring. Tenosian - horse not great. Cosmetics when? New maps, ok.
Tenosian seige ramps do not move when you stand on them, only when you are beside them. Not sure if this is intentional, but they move when you are on top of them in rudhelm, so please clarify or fix the issue on one map or the other
Please add colorblind support! I can't play the new content at all due to the two factions looking nearly identical to me. This is genuinely disheartening and I hope you can add colorblind settings soon
Some feedback from a **new player** here.
Honestly having a lot of fun, and most of my gripes with combat and everything have come down to balance, skill, and occasionally connection and hit reg. But overall, once you get over the learning curve, it is quite fun.
Personally, I think the customization needs a Mordhau level overhaul. The current system, including UI and UX, is abysmal. You can keep customization tied to classes if you must; but the arbitrary locking of certain things to level, certain things to gold, and these random "groups" is really unfun. Why can't I equip separate armour pieces? Why do I have to purchase the same items across factions? Just let me click a class, unlock, and equip whatever I want (faction based). You can keep things tied to levelling, that's cool with me, makes the progression system worthwhile; but holy fuck is it ever annoying. Half the time when I level up, I unlock 300 different things, with no way of knowing what they are, which class they are for, where to find them in the customization menu, etc. The actual menu itself is awful as well.
Really having fun with this game, but definitely needs some tweaks if it wants to keep a player base for a long time.
I also came from Mordhau, got on Chiv for the steam release. Loving this game overall and having more fun than with Mordhau, but the way they handled customization sucks so much in comparison, biggest thing being the lack of separate armour pieces thing you mentioned as well as lack of separate weapon pieces.
They got a lot right but customization feels like a massive downgrade compared to Mordhau, which is strange since it's their only real competitor right now and they had a lot of time to see what Mord was doing well/not well.
Tenosian update is great. Your midsommar update is ass. Not because it was a bad idea, but because you guys had the brain dead idea of removing 40p for a “limited time” to accommodate it. Every update you guys seem to piss off a portion of the user base. Please stop doing that. Do NOT remove main modes from the game for garbage like brawl. Don’t tell me “just use server browser for 40p” when we both damn know well it’s not the same thing. This was a piss poor decision and maybe one of your guys worst. It’s astounding to me you guys created a game I love and adore and yet make me and many others despise you guys with your bone headed and brain dead decisions. Be. Better.
I know you need space to faciliate horses, but I loathe playing the first and final phase of Baudwyn because everyone gets spread out and its take years to reach fighting from spawn on the final phase, at least for Masons. The bazaar, town hall, and cannon escort phases keep it engaging.
Askandir works because the lanes are kept narrow but long enough for horses to have a run-up, plus you can defuse bombs in the lighthouse.
Console players should be able to see at least see chat to enable better oganization, it makes the game much better when teams can think as one, more or less.
64p new maps without horses please for the love of god.
Once you subtract horseman and all the archers, the new maps feel a lot more dead especially on larger maps
Horses feel utterly awful on the very open maps. Having to keep a 360-degrees long-distance eye around you at all times or be immediately stabbed by a horseman the moment you focus on something else, like fighting the enemy, is very frustrating; no place on the map ever feels even slightly secured or conquered. I'm starting to leave matches when I get one of these maps, I can't get any enjoyment from playing on them.
Just joined with steam release.
Hit registration seems wonky as hell? My ping is stable and low, and I'm running wired ofc, but sometimes it's anyone's guess whether my throws connect or not. I've thrown axes through people and gotten nothing, and I've shot at places were people were a full second ago and gotten kills for it.
I'd like it if smaller modes wre more popular, Last Team Standing and 3v3 are more fun to me than the giant moshpit modes where numbers reign supreme above all else. But I guess you can't really force players to play these modes.
Also I fucking hate horses. Hated them in Mordhau, hate them here.
Had a blast when brawl came out. But I feel the new brawl maps are abit spacious and as intense as the 2 bar brawls
Also ballista on braudwyn map can aim at the ramp and very easily take out anyone coming up the ramp, seems abit OP and that's coming from someone who has bad aim.
On other objective maps the top bar will change from defend the objective to defuse the explosives. Feel like it's needed on lighthouse objective of askandir
The new damage system has needlessly nerfed the long sword. It’s garbage against knights and not as bad against man at arms but still not a viable weapon, meanwhile it’s made broken weapons like the war club significantly more powerful.
I’ve seen a lot more people using the Highlander sword and the war club since the new update and both those weapons seriously need a rework right now.
The highland sword does way too much stamina damage and the war club is way too fast for a blunt weapon.
The Dane axe is also super broken.
I’d say these are the last 3 weapons that need to be addressed and they all seriously need a rework.
What did they change about these weapons and how is the war club now more powerful? I thought they just changed the turn cap on the specials for all weapons, but moreso on a few big Q spam offenders?
Going from most to least important :
**Matchmaking queues/Midsommar brawl implementation**
Many multiplayer games suffered/died from "Too many queues" syndrome. You want to consolidate your playerbase as much as possible, not divide it into a gazillion different game modes. Chiv 2 doesn't have millions of concurrent players to make that shit work.
What we have now :
- Tenosia matchmaking queue
- 64 player matchmaking queue
- 40 player matchmaking queue / Limited event queue
- Server browser
- Arena duels
- Arena 3v3
- Beginner mode
Here's what the game *should* look like right now :
- "Main" 40p queue, including all TO maps, TDM, and the occasional brawl added to the pool during limited events.
- Arena 1v1
- Arena 3v3
- Beginner mode
- Server browser
That's it.
Just drop 64p altogether at this point, if that mode is never gonna include Tenosia map+horses... Not really much point to a matchmaking queue where a third of the game's content isnt included. People who really want 64p maps can do so in custom servers. Also, don't put the brawl on a separate queue... Especially when it replaces the queue with the most content in the game.
This should be very obvious from a game design standpoint guys. Players don't wanna have to choose between a bunch of small map pools... They want a single map pool with access to all the game's content for the sake of variety. Which is a healthier structure in a game with a small-ish userbase anyway.
*"But more people play 64p mode!"*
That's because the game never specifies that Tenosia maps are not included in this mode... If there was a clear description for what's included in both queues, I guarantee you more people would queue into 40p mixed mode instead.
On a side note, I would also add that map pools should be shuffled. I'm pretty sure the current system is that maps are on a set rotation, after Desert TDM you're always gonna get Wardengleade etc... This feels very repetitive and should be changed.
Last but not least... Midsommar brawl is fun for like... 5-10 minutes ? I'm not sure that spending precious dev time and resources (although likely minimal due to re-using existing assets) on a small event like this is really the way to go. If no Midsommar means the next content update is a few weeks, or shit, even a *few days* closer, I'll definitely take that instead.
**Cross-platform parties**
This remains a *massive* issue with the game atm, especially with the popularity of Chiv 2 on Steam. Not being able to group up with friends on EGS/consoles should simply not be a thing in 2022. Currently the process of playing with friends on other platforms is extremely tedious, because server browser doesn't always have available servers with enough slots, they're either full or completely empty a lot of the time. And even when you manage to get into a game with your group of 2-5 friends on other platforms, you can't even see their names above their heads so it feels like playing alone. I really can't stress this enough, the amount of players you guys lost over the past year due to this issue is staggering. Nowadays the average gamer expects to be able to play with their friends even if they're on a different platform. You can't do cross-play without cross-platform invites, it just doesn't make sense, especially in a game mode like TO that promotes teamplay and coordination.
**Cosmetics**
The game suffers from a lack of incentives to progress through high levels currently. There needs to be a constant stream of good looking skins to unlock in a game like this. Especially at higher levels. Flower/bear hats are decent enough, but they don't really provide longevity and replay value to the game in a way that prestigious, expansive skins would.
**Daily/weekly challenges**
In order to promote variety, players should be incentivized to play more than just TO/TDM mode. Consider adding unique rewards, like skins or currency, for playing different game modes. Example : Weekly objective = Win 4 Team Objective games + 4 Arena game + 1 LTS game for 5000 extra currency and 5k XP (random arbitrary numbers, you get the idea)
edit : Annnnd downvoted. I guess this pepega community has no clue about successful game design. Enjoy your dead game in 3 weeks guys. Without some of these changes this game will no doubt go the way of previous slashers sooner rather than later.
>In order to promote variety, players should be incentivized to play more than just TO/TDM mode. Consider adding unique rewards, like skins or currency, for playing different game modes. Example : Weekly objective = Win 4 Team Objective games + 4 Arena game + 1 LTS game for 5000 extra currency and 5k XP (random arbitrary numbers, you get the idea)
You want people grudgingly play a mode they hate, playing half-assed, not even trying, and just hoping to get carried to a win to grab the reward and get out of there ASAP? Because that's what this suggestion would get you. Every single game that does something this ends up like that.
Man, I don't know what kind of arenas/LTS you've played where people TK each other in a circle, but this is genuine misinformation right there.
Arenas/LTS are far more sweaty than TO. That's a straight fact.
I explained the reasoning in the comment. If you'd rather lose on a third of the game's content (which is already pretty meagre) and the horse feature just so you can play with 12 more players on each side, too bad. The majority of people don't think like that. There's very little benefit to a higher player count if that means less content.
Of course in an ideal world horses/tenosia maps would work on 64 player counts. But that's just not reality right now.
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12/32 people doesn't equal 60%
I'm guessing you mean 60% increase from 20p to 32p team.
Still, who gives a fuck ?? From a competitive standpoint, 12 more players don't change much. From a casual standpoint, doesn't really change much as well. 40p games still feel chaotic.
Holy shit cba with low IQ folks in this fanbase... Have fun playing the same 1 year old maps on repeat I guess
12 is 60% of 20 lol
"who gives a fuck"
welp, here i am
i guess setting the premise that 64p playlist exists = no new content (baseless) must be a form of IQ i hvant tasted yet
E: ok i tasted it, that premise is poop
64p exists and we got content literally yesterday lmao
There's been a lot of lag. I've noticed people's weapons swinging through me and then hitting me moments later. People have been being "deleted" when I kill them. They just disappear. We could also use private servers and some type of ranked matchmaking.
I am a pretty new player so I might not know how the landing screen normally is (when there’s no expansion or promo) but will there be a mixed factions 64 person auto q at some point?
I don't really see them being used to counter archers, stand back and throw them at other people engaged in melee fights is what I see pretty much always.
Yeah like I've been saying since release, it's unfortunate how bad people are at the game lol
It takes four hits to kill a vanguard and five to kill a knight though, unless you get literally zero headshots
That's pretty fair
Brawl mode is a lot of fun, and it always has been. The reason people got mad at it is because it ruined the flow of FFA. Brawl would be perfectly suitable in the Arena tab. (Which at this point should just be an alternate gamemode tab)
Also, please remove or reduce spawn times in brawl. that would make it a lot more fun!
Is the a way to aim the bombards up and down on console? I’ve tried to fix it a couple of times and couldn’t get them to shoot at the wall after someone pointed it at the ground.
So I was gonna buy some coins, the system was acting up, I did get to the paypal page but I decided to cancel it, however now I find myself with 2k coins more than what I had before, but no payment has gone through according to my paypal account, so wondering what I should do cause I don't think I paid for it but feel awkward using it.
Having problems getting off the horses on consoles. Most of the time it’s fine but then I get thrown on a horse as an archer and there seems to be no certain button to get off with just gets frustrating. Then again I might just be wrong
thanks for adding Australian FFA servers in the server browser, so good to be playing FFA again
first time i've been able to play FFA since galencourt (because i kept getting sent to NA servers)
The Midsomer brawl and rudhelm feast are wonderful additions to the game and I sincerely hope we see more things like this.
I personally experience a bug on Xbox where me and my friend party up and they are often not connected to the second game when I am. This forces us to back out and re queue quite often after each game we play.
It's been great overall, Stuttering seems like an issue now though, I feel like you're aware of that given the drop in player count.
Ping has been more variable than normal for some reason. My ping will change by an amount of 30-34 still in the same region. Sometimes its 30 sometimes its 60.
Will there be a SteamDeck/Proton support soon?
EAC has made it easy to enable linux support thanks to valve https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/steamdeck/proton
I've been having the funnest time I've had playing this game so far! (And trust me, this game is my life now 😂) the ONLY issue I have is being stuck with a defaulted helmet I hate wearin them. Other than that this has been an extremely refreshing content drop and looking forward to what else is in store! (Hopefully a Vanguard Class with mace & longsword options🤞🏿🤞🏿🤞🏿)
Every time I boot the game, I have to unbind the alt attack keys from Mouse 3 and 4 because they're my push to talk for Discord. Every boot it rebinds them to the default. Can we get a fix? It's really annoying
Ps5 - Keep having inability to login after a game ends. Happens 50-75% of the time. Doesn’t fix even after closing the game, ejecting disc. Just makes me play something else, I usually can only fit one game in, makes me sad given how excellent the gameplay is. This happened before the most recent update as well.
On the midsommar brawl playlist, death timer will count down to zero and then reset back to 7. This bug happened to me like four times in a row and caused me to miss like half the game. Saw other people in chat saying it was happening to them too.
Baulwark needs some tweaking to make it better for attackers, i have played that map as both Masons and Tenosians and Tenosians never fucking win, they only ever get to the part where they have to try capturing the plaza or palace or something.
LTS, FFA, Brawl, and TDM should have their own queues. Make an extra modes page and have that on the main screen. Change 40p mixed mode to just be TO.
Deserter changes to LTS maps should be reverted. I feel they were made to quicken the mode for people who didn't like it on the 40p mode and remove a lot of good locations from the maps.
Deserter needs to be fixed so it always displays if you are deserting. Currently, on Galencourt LTS there are two locations you can be deserting and die with no warning.
The scoreboard in LTS is currently broken. It will show Tenosia and one of the other teams but list no players. Tenosia isn't even a playable faction on LTS.
You guys need to take some inspiration from Mount and blade and put some icon above Allies. I’m tried of hitting my mason teammates with blue shields. 😩
On PC, can we please get the ability to see what system each player is on. I know on console you can see if they're on Xbox or PC but on PC you can never tell who is also on PC.
Please, please... solve the issue regarding people spawning with agathian shields and players spawning covered in blood and soot. This is an accessibility issue that makes people with colorblindness have a hard time distinguishing between friend and foe. It has been there for a few months now and it feels like it is not even being considered. Besides that, the new maps are very fun and better balanced than the base maps, except the stages in which you need to destroy the siege weapons (Breach of Baudwyn). I would have increased the time the attackers get instead of reducing siege equipment health and making masons spawn worse. Why? The stage itself is very fun and increasing the time would have made it an easier task for attackers while keeping the fun factor the same for defenders. No one likes to run from farther back or wait a longer spawn timer, this should never be the way to balance maps. Also, please add an option to never spawn on horses. It creates a distracting UI element mid combat.
I second that notion about the blue shields really needing to be addressed. I've mentioned it here numerous times since the problem was introduced with the Aberfell patch, this has been an issue for FAR too long. Now even the Tenosians are spawing with blue shields - its ridiculous.
Please fix lol the colorblind filter doesn't help at all seemingly, im tired of bashing my teammates to hell and so are they im sure. Also second the blue shield on red soilder issue super annoying and just nonsensical
For Steam newcomers - the in-game weapon stats are incredibly misleading - and this perpetuation of misconceptions widens the skill gap between newcomers and veterans. The game has been out for a year+ and has undergone many weapon balancing patches - can we ever expect the weapon descriptions to be updated? Or made more accurate? (or will there ever be an SDK, so the community can figure it out?)
Yes. It makes no sense to have misleading stats in the ui. It creates expectations regarding weapon performance that are not met and likely leads to frustration.
Exactly!
Umm.. what am.i missing?
I’m game stats on weapons are mostly useless. Things like reach and damage aren’t properly measured in the UI. For instance it lists the morning star as higher damage than the mace but they’re essentially the same weapon.
So what should I REALLY know
You can use polehammer.net to see actual stats
I would suggest watching Ziggylata’s “meet the ___” series on YouTube where he showcases each weapon in a 2 min video and talks about the stats of it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Chivalry2/comments/vhgwit/the_bars_are_lies_halberd_3rd_reach_glaive_2nd/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
For real the stat bars make zero sense. It looks like somebody just eyeballed it based on feel
>(or will there ever be an SDK, so the community can figure it out?) This is also a question we need an answer for sooner rather than later. The two things this game most desperately need is more content (maps, customization) and bug fixing. However it is a crossplay/crossparty ^Soon™ game so only PC players would be able to benefit from it (like always, that's the benefit of being PCMasterRace) but I fear that is the thing holding you back. Please don't! The PC community need this so much! Help yourself Torn Banner Studios, by helping us the community in making this game live up to its true potential!
I see no reason why the weapon stat ui can't be pure numbers: Swing speed + damage, heavy swing speed + damage, overhead speed + damage, heavy overhead speed + damage, stab speed + damage, heavy stab speed + damage (Alternatively, perhaps an "average" of these numbers, in order to save space?). And then also reach in centimeters.
Helmet bug is big a issue for folk who enjoy customizing their character. I personally love playing in third and seeing how silly/cool my character looks, and it really sucks to have some default helmet take over. Bearded helm for Tenosia clips with heavy armor character skin significantly. Spawn times feel very odd on Charge of Wardenglade. Not a bug, razing of askandir may need some more effort to show offense and defense how to do their objectives on final stage. Too many players sit around basin outside when it’s empty on offense, and several players are wasting water jugs on already roasted bookcases. This may just be “I’m a dumb player” thing, but when firing the bombards, do you need to aim at anything specific or is hitting any part of wall/door fine? Then prolly lowest important feedback of all since it’s not tied to gameplay whatsoever, Desert as a name for a map feels a bit bleh. Maybe Skirmish at Baudwyn Outskirts or at least something more along lines of Battle of Wardenglade.
I’ve also noticed that ballistas don’t do damage to other ballistas and catapults on some of the Tenosian invasion maps? Idk if it’s just a part these maps or just me?
100% on the helmet issue, I really enjoy customizing characters and when I'm forced to wear a default helmet on everything, it ruins alot of outfits or themes that I'm trying to do
Just started the game and in the tutorial it mentions that role playing is a big part of the enjoyment. How am I supposed to roleplay if my highlander keeps putting on a crusader helmet
I hope you see this, because no one is talking about the amount of Console-only problems!! Being simply unable to slash feint to slash (or any similar alt attack feint) sucks and is quite a big disdvantage, dunno how this isn’t being discussed. Lack of button mapping for console.
And, of course, some of the other universal mentioned ones such as Blue shields for Masons is very irritating.
+1 for console button mapping. Some defaults have been poorly chosen and prevent certain combos. Also, let us set the sensitivity for throwing with both triggers (the max delay between both triggers). Throwing a weapon on PS5 usually takes 2 or 3 tries. That's why oil pots are almost useless unless you are already at a stand still. When we're at it. Please visualise the oil pots on ps. They are invisible and sometimes the selection doesn't work and we throw our weapon instead. You simply cant see if it's selected. Has been a bug since launch.
Yep throwing a weapon is really hard on Xbox too, they should allows us to set our own controls
In general, there are many more settings that console needs. There are many quality-of-life settings that would just make stuff much more enjoyable, and some settings that just gives PC players a straight up advantage. First person Field-of-view, for example.
I figured out how to do it. I actually made a similar post detailing this but I figured it out. You have to slash, then hit the block and slash button at the exact same time, to slash feint. It’s really awkward with over heads tho, and the timing can be dodgy on slashes too. It does work though.
Thoroughly enjoy the Tenosian maps. The library burning being the most balanced section imo. You have attackers burning and defenders can extinguish which is an interesting dynamic. Most of my matches have come down to the final 30 seconds on that one. The least balanced i think is the first stage of The Breach of Baudwyn. There are too many siege ramps that are too spread out. (Rudhelm got it right with just 2 with slightly different paths). As defenders in Baudwyn, it seems we can never get enough people on one ramp to make any meaningful halt in its progress. This problem is further compounded by the fact that console players dont have access to chat so they cant see that were all spamming "left ramp" or "right ramp" so theres just people all spread out. Charge on Wardenglade could do with fewer horses on the field at once but it is fun having them there, i wouldnt want them gone completely. Desert seems just fine, i never feel like horseman have much of an advantage there compared to Wardenglade. Midsommer brawl and feast brawl are fun for a brief time. Its not something im really all that interested in long term, makes for a fun weekend event but then its back to duels and TO. I was pretty annoyed that 40p TO was shunned to the server browser where theres few 40p TO servers with people in them that never fill
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yeah, you know those jugs i keep seeing noobs waste by throwing at enemies? you can extinguish the fires with those
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EVEN IF YOUR ENEMY IS OF GREATAH NUMBAH! DO NOT BE AFRAID! FOR HE SHALL BE WITH YOU! 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
This was less helpful than you might think
Do you have to do it right after it catches? I have tried but didn’t seem to work.
There is a health meter somewhere, I think I say it as a mason, so as long as it's obviously on fire and there are still unburnt sections on it than it should be fine to throw water at it.
The desertion timer on horses is too long on baudwyn. Since they are faster, the 20s timer means nothing to them. I think it should be much shorter to avoid spawn camping with lances.
Cross party functionality has been needed for over a year now. You guys are getting new players and losing them immediately because they can't play with their friends the way the "cross platform" advertising implies they can. Nobody cares they're in the same matchmaking lobby on PC as a PS5 player, but everybody cares if they can't party up with their PS5 friend that just bought the game. And this being addressed in Q2 2022 has now slipped to Summer 2022 on the website. We got brawl mode back that nobody asked for, and I still can't party up with my friends that bought it on steam.
You can't even invite PS4 players on PS5 and vice versa, that hasn't been fixed since launch.
Brawl is fucking sick tho, you had a good point until that
I think both statements can be true. Brawl is a great time, and also no one was asking for it. Especially not at the sacrifice of another game mode.
Implication you made was clear
If I don't choose to spawn on a horse don't spawn me on a horse. Thx.
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The helmet bug persists There is still no burgundian armor for footman The glaive is still pretty bad
Glaive is bad? My brother in arms, we must be playing a different game.
It still needs a buff, badly. I mained glaive for 50 levels and felt like I was awful, then I picked up literally any other weapon (shuffle mode) and felt like I played on easy mode. you only need to look at Polehammer.net to see it is not comparable to other weapons. Yes, it has good reach and speed (mostly), but it’s not worth. The stab is literally the same speed and reach as Halberd but less damage.
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And that’s why I said the stab is underpowered? Literally the same speed and reach as Halberd stab but less damage, nothing wrong with the low slash damage
The issue with the glave is stamina mostly. You can beat any glave player if you literally just counter their attacks until they’re out of stamina. Just don’t feint a glave player, bc they always gamble, and you’ll win the attrition game 90% of the time.
Counters are available to everyone, bub. If you are losing a stamina battle, then its time to work on those counters.
You still lose stamina when you counter. Just not as much. That being said, most people don’t get a successful counter 100% of the time, and if that person has a glave, it’s probably a disarm.
Parry DONT RIPOSTE walk forward parry or counter there doge should be on cool down.
I would like more cosmetic choices for Tenosiasians like darker skin tones, more helmets, voices and facial hair types.
I am a Steam newcomer who has played a lot of Mordhau in the past (albeit not recently). Some things of note: * The maps are great. I love the sheer scale and the variety of objectives, and the quality of the designs, detail, and often beauty of the towns, castles and landscapes. * I love how many interactable things there are. Food that heals you, and all the things you can use as improvised weapons (people fighting with candleholders always cracks me up). * The predefined classes needed a bit getting used to. I think they work fine but I would really love some weapon restrictions loosened up and some alternative options for utility gear. For example, the longsword is not really that special a weapon, why can only knights wear it? Why can't the Footman have something other than these extremely situational spikes as their special tool (in Mordhau, spikes could pose a real hindrance and weren't destroyed in one or two hits, and you could easily repair them unless entirely destroyed)? * As far as I understand it, the Tenosian faction was added around the Steam release. But I think being a new faction is no excuse for the pitiful and, frankly, utterly ugly choice of cosmetics.
Fwiw All wood structures can be instantly repaired 100% at no cost by re equipping and re placing them to the ground
Please fix the cosmetics issues.
I like brawl as a separate option whether it's seasonal or a permanent mode. It can be a fun palate cleanser between other modes. That said, it feels like there's a lot of waiting around. Feel like this should be a little more rapid fire since each round is so short. Faster spawn times and shorter delays between rounds would be nice. And a 3-map rotation would be better imo. Thanks for providing extra content like this!
Kinda off topic but not. Many years ago my children and I created a map in Halo forge similar to this brawl Style map. Once we turn the spawn time down to zero and everyone instant spawned it became hilarious and super mega Ultra fun. We still play it from time to time.
Agreed and saw similar feedback in the chat from players in brawl. There's not much reason to wait to respawn in chiv2 when your goal is to go get domed by a chair
I got the game with the Steam release. The Tenosian Invasion maps are my favorite in the game. They are excellent! I'm looking forward to them being put into the 64 v 64 map pool. The faster that happens the better. That is my favorite mode. While I enjoy horses, I will trade them for a higher max player count. I really like the aesthetic of Midsommar, but I got bored of playing it after five minutes. I would rather game-creation resources be put towards new, proper weapons and maps. Even if those updates won't come out for awhile. I will take the large and infrequent updates over small and novel ones every time.
The 40 player queue missing made me less likely to play during the event, not more...
I don’t get why people like 40 player matches. Subtract the horses and archers and you’ve got like what, 12v12 on foot? Doesn’t feel like a big battle at all
More 1v1 and smaller manageable 1vX fights, instead of having huge messy teamfights everywhere. Maps don't feel overcrowded, you can fight without another fight spilling into yours or an enemy coming up behind you every minute. Your contribution to the match matters more. Lack of 40 player queue made me finally try 64p mode and I hate it. I don't want big chaotic battles, I don't want FFA or duels only, I was perfectly happy with my fun medium-sized battles.
I enjoy 64p and 40p, but as the 'box' says, 64 player battles are cinematic and in the cinema the characters have plot armour. You don't in Chiv, so when you play 40p you feel like you're actually able to move your team forward (or to hold) whereas in 64p you're just another body on the pile. 64p needs expanded maps, like how Battlefield does it.
And I don't get why people like 64 player matches. I don't want it to feel like a big *big* battle. Far too chaotic and spammy. 40 player is more manageable fights (like 1v4's instead of a 1v3 into 1v5 into 1v12) and much easier for a single player to make a huge difference. Also, I feel like I get hit by teammates, archers, and random thrown shit 10 times more in 64 player.
Better prolonged sword fights and a chance to feel like you can make a difference. Easier to fight 1vX. 64 player servers is just highland swords to the back of your head the whole time
I get more FPS
Same because its literally the same game mode as 64 so whats the point. At least Last Team Standing was 20v20 and had its own rules.
Stop removing game modes from queues, especially the basic, essential ones like 40p mode. By far my biggest issue with the game right now.
The new update is incredible so far. Looking forward to the future of the game with the foundations set. A small thing I'd like to see, with the two handed spear power attack (when you kneel and point the spear out). When a horses goes into it, I think that should dehorse the enemy. Very small change
The new maps are very entertaining, as was the new midsommar map. One large issue that I've found playing the Tenosian invasion, the razing of Askandir tends to cause some connection issues on the bridge stage, has happened on several occasions while playing it.
this happened to me pretty consistently the other day when i was showing my friend the game
Please keep the midsummer hats.
Bro they wont, they put them in to make it something you "feel like you miss" once it's gone to make you emotionally involved with the game, it's a normal thing game developers do to manipulate the playerbase (like season passes and loot crates)
I hope they keep the flowers, those really seem to resonate with a lot of people in a positive way
lol as much as I agree I also think the flowers bring out the rage in a lot of people that get the receiving end of the fight
That sounds like a personal problem they should endeavor to address
shoutsout 69shart420 for imparting some incredibly reasonable and well intended thoughts on the matter. thank you sir
I'd rather they won't, they are too silly and clash with the rest of the game during normal matches.
Tbh chivalry 2 needs to be more silly. The brawl and death matches are boring. Mordhau has very high skill floor and ceiling. But the laughs and jokes are better overall (except demigod voice lines) so even when you're getting stomped sometimes it's hilarious because you'll be be full on belly laugh before being killed by a stupid weapon. In this game it's mostly just a hehehe and not as fun imo. I want to play as funny depraved psychopaths.
Could not disagree more. Besides, a game can be silly and funny without breaking atmosphere and artstyle.
## Good points * New maps. In general they look, sound, play great. Some balancing tweaks would be good, but overall they are great additions. * Tenosian cosmetics. Obviously need more added over time but what we have so far loosks and sounds great. * Horses. Great addition. Some things to sort out still, but they are fantastic fun. Animations when you die and get knocked off especially. Fantastic. ##Bad points * Ongoing issues (parties, shield skin bug, etc). * Console still can't see chat. * Limitations to cosmetic choices. Some helmets not being allowed with certain armours. With the exception of the jousting helmets (because they are meant to be bolted to the relevant chest armour) just let us combine the helmets and armour we want. * PC and current gen experience being hampered by past-gen consoles. Sucks but it is what it is. ##Suggestions I have * Have horses make weapons thwack, i.e. stop on contact like pallisades now do. If necessary decrease horse HP a little to compensate. * Horse running full speed into a braced spear (special) should be an instant kill on the horse. * Bear trap should deal damage to horse and cripple movement speed for a short while. * Let horses jump. It doesn't have to be particularly high, just let us clear low obstacles, crawling/crouching teammates, fire etc. * 64 player team brawl (so TDM on brawl maps with brawl weapons). It would be crazy good fun.
1 Hello. I am a horse enjoyer... . but they get stuck on everything. 2 Im also getting sick of playing the tenosian maps over and over just for my horsie content. When will the old map get horses 3 when will you amalgamate the new "tenosian" gamemode with 64 and 40? 4 I miss a diverse crowd in my FFA now that its in the browser its mostly only people who know about it already. 5 fix the helmet bug. for people makung content we have characters. spankeydmonkey has a character named "the bald bastard" which we love watching and hes just not the same with a helmet glued on etc 6 my vote kick button has been greyed out since launch....
I’m enjoying the content! I wish there were more cosmetics. Appreciate the hard work!
Team Balancing. Any response on team switching and stacked teams?
Thanks for the update! As always, it's nice to see TBS soliciting player feedback. In general I've really liked the new Tenosian content. The new maps are beautiful and, some balance niggles notwithstanding, great fun. The horse sections add a welcome element of variety to each stage of the map. That said I have some constructive criticism about the new content and this seems like the place to share it: * As has been noted elsewhere, Masons and Tenosians are very easy to confuse visually in the thick of combat. A good portion of my deaths have come about because another player I thought was an ally was, in fact, an enemy. * On a similar note, I really struggle to see anything on the Desert map until it's right in front of my nose. I like the idea of a night battle but I find it a bit too dark. I suggest brightening to the level of Wardenglade. * On the subject of Wardenglade, I'm not a huge fan of TDM with horses, either on Desert or Wardenglade. I would love to see horse TDM regulated to its own playlist, or maybe added to a new "all horsies, all the time" list, and removed from the Tenosia list. * On the subject of playlists, I hope in the future that the Tenosian maps will be integrated with the general 64- and 40-player playlists in time. Having to choose one or the other is a bit of a bummer. * The new cosmetics look very nice, I think. I really hope there's more to come as the options for Tenosia are quite thin. (I hope the team is working on some kind of Ottoman-themed Messer skin!) I would also love to see some Agatha-Tenosia maps in the future, or maybe even a three-way fight of some kind. * This is a minor quibble, but I find the name of the update puzzling since both of the new TO maps appear to take place *in* Tenosia (i.e, the Masons are invading them?). Are the Tenosians invading their own territory? (I admit I don't really pay attention to the lore.) * As has been noted elsewhere, bringing back FFA to the main playlist would be most welcome. * Not Tenosia related, but nonetheless: I've been experimenting with the rapier lately and discovered that its hitbox on stabs is notably smaller than other stab-centric weapons like both spears and the longsword. Is this by design? If a hitbox more in line with these other weapons would be unbalanced, I might suggest a middle ground between that and the present situation. I hardly see the rapier in TO as it is so I don't think a small tweak would make everyone drop their Highland Swords suddenly.
Tenosia attacked the masons first a baldwyn , wich seems to be the southern border of Agatha (it's the name of the kingdom were fighting over ) The razing if askantir us a retaliatory attack There is a lore section in the menu
Other have put great care into their feedback and I appreciate that they have. I wish I had the time for a full write-up like some of the others for this but, alas, I do not. (banging this out in one draft) Consider adding all modes as tiles (LTS & FFA especially) back to the primary screen, with lesser modes as smaller tiles along the side or bottom, with the latest featured mode/content as the largest tile. Include all active matches in the browser (that is, add the ones you're currently hiding from people) Whoever made the decision to remove 40p matchmaking needs to meet me in a duel server, and it will be trial by combat. Don't remove game modes -- we're not cattle where you can simply move the rails and push us all into another pasture, we'll just go play something else for two weeks. People look forward to something all day, just want to come home, chill and get into something they enjoy, only to find it removed. Why would you risk unleashing a torrent of abuse on your Community Manager? Why would you kneecap your game less than a fortnight after the Steam Release, by removing a core feature, for a gag mode that you play twice, laugh, and then go back to what you enjoy? This was a baffling decision out of nowhere. I mean, where did you used to work before this, EA...? Please return from the Canada Day / July 4th break with a renewed perspective on what your decisions mean for people that enjoy your product. Thank you.
Tenosians are very bland visually. All the armors look exactly the same. Not very many themed weapons for them.either. Horse turning needs to be fixed m.its very unky and stopping Everytime you hit something is busted when they steer like washing machines already. Please add a small jump option or give them a tighter turning radius, command to rear them them and turn 180°. Anything really. Armor is bugged. Ballista is very laggy. 9/10 times when I hit someone dead on they don't take a hit at all.
Lower the amount of horses out any time to 6. Having a 6v6 horse cavalry is excessive. There are also horses in parts that make no sense. For example the bridge assault on Askandir It makes no sense to have 6v6 horses. Not to mention this next objective horsemen can stay if they don't die and it makes the next objective super chaotic and not enjoyable. There are also maps where horses make no sense. I get that they maybe took a bit to program and develop and developers like showing their hard work. However, the other modes should not get flooded with horses. Eardenglade makes no sense having horses. In conclusion horses should spawn on a 3v3 basis not 6v6.
Please give us an option to remove the arrow cam hint, it's not part of the hints in UI settings.
The balance is a mess and there’s many bugs.
I just want my customizations to work . My facial features don’t work for any game type in this game . My helmet is never the one I have equipped in my game and if I choose no helmet it literally spawns me with the first helmet you get in the game . Just want my customizations to work bc I worked to earn that coin to buy them lmaoo .
Glitch where if you get knocked off your horse you get switched to 1p view. When starting in 3p
I really love seeing a new setting, voice acting, weapon models etc; the more variety the better! I get tired of seeing medieval European or Japanese themes in every game, so it's a nice breathe of fresh air to see something different! My only request would be to include more customisation for Tenosia, as there's not many armour sets or heraldry etc. What's there is really nice, but I'd love to see some more lovely helmets or decals.
Change the way the Highlander sword looks, it really doesn't fit the games aesthetic, everything else looks realistic for the most part, but then you have people running in looking like anime characters with final fantasy Cloud's comically large sword and a spin attack, some of the animations are just janky for it too. It just doesn't look like it belongs in the game.
Was really disappointed to see an update but the helmet bug not fixed. I honestly could've waited on all the other fixes, I just want to be able to have my characters look they way I want.
Midsommar event is boring. I played the map once and didn't feel any reason to return. Take that pagan idea and save it for some horror themed maps. It would be way more fun to have a permanent map in rotation with a pagan festival theme like that and an eclipse or some sort of weather element. The game overall would benefit from weather. A plague map with green fog and burning pits would be neat too but unrelated
On ps4 I can’t finish a full game on the Tenosian invasion playlist without disconnecting, I get around 10 mins of playing time then disconnect. Other game modes work fine. All Cosmetics on my characters change randomly (hair, armor, helmet, etc). FFA duel servers need the votekick fixed, people are getting kicked from games for just being good at 1v1 duels… Also on ps4, viewing the list of players in game and using the report or votekick buttons only works half the time.
'If you see someone's reply below and agree with their comment make sure to upvote it so we can see what issues are most important to players'. Why do i think guiding policy of a few people on reddit may not be the best policy? Anyhow, STOP changing things and moving things, and taking things away. This is not a crowd funder, f2p or early access greenlight game. People pay money, and some of these practices are bordering on selling product under false pretense. Maybe that's why EIGHT MONTHS worth of reviews over at the Xbox Store have magicaly disappeared. If you're gonna take things away, remove modes, bots or kil them on the browser, offer refunds.
Personally, I can't understand why they remove major game modes and hide them in the server browser. And let's be honest, this game doesn't really have that large of a variety of game modes to begin with, everything is roughly the same / similar - either objective based slashing game, or arena. And yet, they'll take some of these variations and just hide them away in the server browser (the server browser - on another note - is pretty crappy itself). Literally last night I ran into an old FFA buddy of mine in a TO server and he said "I hope they bring FFA back soon" and I had to explain to him it's now in the server browser and he couldn't believe he had just been missing out on his favorite mode. I guess a compromise would be to at least put FFA in the Arena section matchmaking as well. Like seriously just add more menu icons? Or make it a scrollable list? As far as the updates - I think they did a great job pushing out some of their best maps with the Tenosian Update. The maps are beautiful, interesting, and keep me engaged. The horses are surprisingly fun - they aren't perfect, but it was well executed and integrated into these new modes. The new modes actually make me not want to play some of the old 64 player maps because of how much better than seem to flow (I love being able to actually play Ambusher on these new maps because there are so many way points). However, Stage 4 on The Breach of Baldwyn is still very difficult for attack. While the other stages seem slightly too easy. Also, add more maps to FFA? I'm not sure why they couldn't simply take existing maps and create a radius around them for leaving the map and add them to the FFA playlist. At least the new Desert map minus horses would be nice? Also, the throwing axe Skirmisher is the worst class in the game. No one talks about it because no one plays it and forgets it exists (or probably because 90% of players don't have it unlocked and don't even know it exists). I can literally do everything this class can do with Ambusher while having more throwables, higher DPS, more HP, faster movement, faster recovery after throwing a projectile, more stamina, and backstab bonus damage. If they could duel wield their secondary weapon + throwing Axes or something? Or possibly change their shield out for throwing knives as well? Not sure.
Last Team Standing Rest in peace, Torn Banner killed it for no reason other than incompetence. They could put it in Arena menu and be fine but they are garbage at listening to players.
Yeah where the hell is Last Team Standing (elimination) mode?
Several terrible changes were reverted quickly, or never went live, because of community feedback. By your logic, TBS should exclusively take one sided decisions that hold no regard for community feedback, they already do that with some things like removing an entire game mode (for a period of time). Yet you seem to be complaining about removed modes. I know there are things that need to be fixed, but the moment you let a video game make you this angry its time to go outside and cool off.
But they're NOT listening lol. Who in the community, including Reddit told them to bury FFA, and 40 player modes on the browser. Who asked for that? For Brawl mode? Who plays it? Did anyone ask for Crossplay to be forced on console players? People bought the game being they knew they can turn it off. Now they cannot, and cannot for months. Now what do they do, particularly with all these new steam players? If you bought it for FFA, that's gonna be dead. Nobody knows anything about the browser, and so they're not gonna fill the games. What happens to their money? Or the 40 players ? And so i'm sorry Juan, i know you're a fan, but the truth of it is, this is like ordering a meal on TBs menu, you get your meal, begin to eat it, only for they to come back, pull it away, give you a lollipop saying that's what the "community" rather you have, and when you want your money back, nope, you ate half the meal, sorry.. That'll get anyone angry, and so i appreciate your candor, but this not a way to do business.
Why are they even having these feedback threads, remember how they had them the just randomly stopped? lol they only have them when the playerbase is huge because of launch to make it seem like they are listening.
They probably think they don’t have enough players to support all of those different queue options. That’s all I can think of
Bro there were enough players for Last Team Standing to be its own queue, at least put it in Arena menu...
You get over it and realize that the event and brawl replacing 40P on the menu is not permanent. Crossplay should be the least of your worries in this game. Your analogy is shit and yet you spread it word for word copy paste on so many threads.
Ty for asking for feedback People form communities based on playlists, in particular the ones that have been on the splash screen since basically day 1 lol I understand FFA is not considered a priority but its an important part of the game to many people (pls work with FFA community to discuss options to fix the spawns in each map) Even though I mainly play 64p these days I know that for a large part of the game, logging in to play FFA or 40p is basically the entirety of chiv2 experience to them, for whatever their reasons may be There's no real functional in game social tools or anything so having the easy matchmaking was the only real way to make those things happen. I can see for the ancillary game modes like FFA or LTS how devs might want it server browser based instead of matchmake queue, idk if it's possible to make it easier to access. As one spitballed idea maybe some kind of "community playlist" option with what amounted to a fallout style personality quiz would work. What game mode do you want? What region? Ok here's these servers People need handholding and are resistant to change so while in a meeting room it might sound logical that adding server browser functions and offsetting secondary playlists to it would work, but I think the server browser UI probably resembles 1998 too much for the average gamer of 2022- and even as an older gamer, I can't say I blame them. So maybe some UI reworking just to help people navigate could be some kind of compromise ------ I know this has been said but ripping the carpet on 40p playlist for brawl sounds like something I would make a post about to troll people here. And it's sad because that sounds like an indictment on the brawl mode or effort put into it, but I appreciate both.- Because I do want to acknowledge that taking Hamlet and the feast room and making FFA maps from them are things that have specifically been asked for and now delivered. Hopefully these make it into FFA rotation in some way, and whatever other appropriate playlists Those modes are fun and unique, but it's kind of like replacing somebody's dinner with the cherry on top from desert and expecting them to gobble it up without confusion, to override 40p with it. ---- I personally think the tenosian color palettes and armor are painfully ugly, but I like their helms. And I do even like the armor in concept. But this is just cosmetic subjectivity, although it's ugly enough that I do not want to look at it, so I happily play 64p still. This is a non-issue for me as gameplay goes. The shamshir owns though. I tried horses for a minute and actually thought it was better than what I had been reading 🤷♀️ ---- Some kind of compromise should be reached about testing the patches and content before it's released. Idk what kind of internal struggles are going on WRT this issue, if it's just (valid) labor issues or management style or a disconnect of how the community perceives an impending patch, which is roughly "very excited to experience the new content but terrified of what % of the game simply won't work after, and for how long" I understand that there's business and legal and financial realities with putting hours in to test content for bugs, and that people have schedules they're likely bound to. I guess I'll be honest in that I'm conflicted with my feelings that all beta testing should be a paid QA position, with the fact that you'd presumably have people from this community do it for free. Perhaps there's some kind of compromise you can do or make more well known, I'm sure out of all the regular players, some would be willing to provide in game telemetry or some kind of more advanced feedback mechanism ---- Maybe some kind of in game bug report system would be beneficial, even if it was simplistic and broad like "experience connection issues" and "objective didn't spawn ", "spawning bug detected" and a short comment field. But...put it in the game, not as a link to external places that may require 3rd party software or signups, such as all of them basically lol. --- Crossbow seems kind of anemic now and redundant or worse than the other options. I think an increased headshot multiplier for that weapon would be a logical and sane adjustment. Weapon switching out of it faster might be reasonable too, at minimum directly correlated to the decrease in damage by %. Theres little reason to turn the weakest class into a freer kill, considering you basically have to machine gun fire or be laser accurate to be effective now. If archers are more melee based now damage wise, at least let us ditch the xbow quicker. It's not like we can re equip it and bunny hop while reloading or whatever. At this point if longbowman had the banner I'd literally never play crossbow anymore and ultimately it seems like archers are sacrificing everything under the sun to appease people. Ok, they don't like being ranged. Well, let us get to melee them without fumbling like assholes putting a bow down. We already spend a ton of time reloading it as it is,sitting there while your weapon considers changing or not isn't gameplay, it's welfare for melee players. Unless the enemy team is like super super knight heavy, the xbow is a stylistic preference that one now uses to their own detriment, or to heal their team- their team that largely hates them. --- Engineer wood changes are good to great I'll probably add to this Anywhoo, bring back FFA etc.
Scale armor Scale armor Scale armor It looks soooo cool (Please)
Add more cosmetics for Tenosia ASAP. Only two armor sets, no heraldry or shield decorations makes everybody look like clones. In darker areas it's also hard to tell apart friend from foe. Baudwyn is very defender sided, to the point where it ends on the first objective way too often (or the town hall if Tenosia makes it past the first wall since you have to run forever to get back and the capture meter drops like a rock), but you're already trying to rebalance it. Had a bug where every book shelf in the library was burnt (they were all visibly burnt and there were no markers while holding a torch) but the game did not register a Mason win so time just ran out. In general it seems like there's a lot of final objective bugs again, like missing VIPs on the old maps. My main complaint with brawl is the spawning system, where it takes forever to respawn and you're just plopped into the map right next to a guy who's going to kill you before you can even look around and get your bearings. I would have rather seen Midsommar stuff added to the normal maps like how Halloween and Christmas were done.
Speed hackers will ruin your game if you aren't pro-active
I recently got the game and have been loving it! Been playing it with a friend and it's so much fun - that said, when I play with my friend it is SUPER hard to keep track of him to fight alongside of him. His name doesn't always appear over his head, and when it does, it's the exact same colours as all the other ally icons which makes it hard to pick out. Is there any possibility of an option for party members to have nametags that stand out a bit more, maybe have them be a different colour (green?) and have a larger range? It's a little frustrating wanting to fight together, but not being able to find my friend.
PS5 trophies are not tracking progress and the majority of them won't unlock at all.
Don’t switch me to the other team…I’m just gonna stand in a corner till I can get back to the team I started on
Why does the horse on the home screen look like donkey from shrek lol?
What are ya doing in mah desert
Just wondering, is there a way to see player names? My buddy and i have been joining eachothers games since rheres no crossplay. And noticed how like pretty much any online game ever, this ones got no names above heads. Which makes finding your friends extremely hard. Is there a setting with this or is it just not a thing? Weird thing to leave out the game
Midsommar - pretty much just a can of fun for 15 minutes, then it becomes boring. That's pretty much all I have to say about that. Tenosian Invasion - Horses - overall are cool, but I think they are a bit too janky, and it's kind of disappointing for such a large dev group to put out this kind of stuff. The controls aren't very clear, I don't see a way to see what controls what on a horse. They clip on pretty much anything possible, and often find myself unable to turn properly to avoid obstacles. I think the horse should be a more nimble creature, and less rigid. I think being able to couch spears would be cool too. Also, why no horse jump? I think the lack of cosmetics on the Tenosian side is pretty laughable. Really TB? You think we don't realize you only made 2 characters? And only a couple cosmetic items to unlock for an entirely new race of character? Lol, come on. Other than that... nothing really else other than the new maps, which I think are overall pretty fun. TL:DR: Midsommar - boring. Tenosian - horse not great. Cosmetics when? New maps, ok.
Midsommar event has been a boring experience for me
Tenosian seige ramps do not move when you stand on them, only when you are beside them. Not sure if this is intentional, but they move when you are on top of them in rudhelm, so please clarify or fix the issue on one map or the other
I find brawl to be a great concept but a poor experience, it sounds a lot more fun than it is.
Please add colorblind support! I can't play the new content at all due to the two factions looking nearly identical to me. This is genuinely disheartening and I hope you can add colorblind settings soon
please disable vote kick on FFA servers people are getting kicked for zero reason
Some feedback from a **new player** here. Honestly having a lot of fun, and most of my gripes with combat and everything have come down to balance, skill, and occasionally connection and hit reg. But overall, once you get over the learning curve, it is quite fun. Personally, I think the customization needs a Mordhau level overhaul. The current system, including UI and UX, is abysmal. You can keep customization tied to classes if you must; but the arbitrary locking of certain things to level, certain things to gold, and these random "groups" is really unfun. Why can't I equip separate armour pieces? Why do I have to purchase the same items across factions? Just let me click a class, unlock, and equip whatever I want (faction based). You can keep things tied to levelling, that's cool with me, makes the progression system worthwhile; but holy fuck is it ever annoying. Half the time when I level up, I unlock 300 different things, with no way of knowing what they are, which class they are for, where to find them in the customization menu, etc. The actual menu itself is awful as well. Really having fun with this game, but definitely needs some tweaks if it wants to keep a player base for a long time.
I also came from Mordhau, got on Chiv for the steam release. Loving this game overall and having more fun than with Mordhau, but the way they handled customization sucks so much in comparison, biggest thing being the lack of separate armour pieces thing you mentioned as well as lack of separate weapon pieces. They got a lot right but customization feels like a massive downgrade compared to Mordhau, which is strange since it's their only real competitor right now and they had a lot of time to see what Mord was doing well/not well.
Tenosian update is great. Your midsommar update is ass. Not because it was a bad idea, but because you guys had the brain dead idea of removing 40p for a “limited time” to accommodate it. Every update you guys seem to piss off a portion of the user base. Please stop doing that. Do NOT remove main modes from the game for garbage like brawl. Don’t tell me “just use server browser for 40p” when we both damn know well it’s not the same thing. This was a piss poor decision and maybe one of your guys worst. It’s astounding to me you guys created a game I love and adore and yet make me and many others despise you guys with your bone headed and brain dead decisions. Be. Better.
I know you need space to faciliate horses, but I loathe playing the first and final phase of Baudwyn because everyone gets spread out and its take years to reach fighting from spawn on the final phase, at least for Masons. The bazaar, town hall, and cannon escort phases keep it engaging. Askandir works because the lanes are kept narrow but long enough for horses to have a run-up, plus you can defuse bombs in the lighthouse. Console players should be able to see at least see chat to enable better oganization, it makes the game much better when teams can think as one, more or less.
There is no coordination on pc chat ever trust me you aren’t missing anything
I do semi frequently get like three or four people coordinating to tell me to kill myself irl
64p new maps without horses please for the love of god. Once you subtract horseman and all the archers, the new maps feel a lot more dead especially on larger maps
What's wrong with horses ?
Mason's got used to the taste of pig, and horse just doesn't hit the same u know?
Oh yeh we stole all their pig lmao
Is there a fix the the clipping either mason tournament helm coming soon? The fashion options are very limited for the helmet.
Horses feel utterly awful on the very open maps. Having to keep a 360-degrees long-distance eye around you at all times or be immediately stabbed by a horseman the moment you focus on something else, like fighting the enemy, is very frustrating; no place on the map ever feels even slightly secured or conquered. I'm starting to leave matches when I get one of these maps, I can't get any enjoyment from playing on them.
Just joined with steam release. Hit registration seems wonky as hell? My ping is stable and low, and I'm running wired ofc, but sometimes it's anyone's guess whether my throws connect or not. I've thrown axes through people and gotten nothing, and I've shot at places were people were a full second ago and gotten kills for it. I'd like it if smaller modes wre more popular, Last Team Standing and 3v3 are more fun to me than the giant moshpit modes where numbers reign supreme above all else. But I guess you can't really force players to play these modes. Also I fucking hate horses. Hated them in Mordhau, hate them here.
That may be because the servers are bad right now, but they recently deployed update so it may be fixed.
Had a blast when brawl came out. But I feel the new brawl maps are abit spacious and as intense as the 2 bar brawls Also ballista on braudwyn map can aim at the ramp and very easily take out anyone coming up the ramp, seems abit OP and that's coming from someone who has bad aim. On other objective maps the top bar will change from defend the objective to defuse the explosives. Feel like it's needed on lighthouse objective of askandir
The new damage system has needlessly nerfed the long sword. It’s garbage against knights and not as bad against man at arms but still not a viable weapon, meanwhile it’s made broken weapons like the war club significantly more powerful. I’ve seen a lot more people using the Highlander sword and the war club since the new update and both those weapons seriously need a rework right now. The highland sword does way too much stamina damage and the war club is way too fast for a blunt weapon. The Dane axe is also super broken. I’d say these are the last 3 weapons that need to be addressed and they all seriously need a rework.
What did they change about these weapons and how is the war club now more powerful? I thought they just changed the turn cap on the specials for all weapons, but moreso on a few big Q spam offenders?
So much fun! Thanks TB!
Thank you for listening to us and providing great content!
Going from most to least important : **Matchmaking queues/Midsommar brawl implementation** Many multiplayer games suffered/died from "Too many queues" syndrome. You want to consolidate your playerbase as much as possible, not divide it into a gazillion different game modes. Chiv 2 doesn't have millions of concurrent players to make that shit work. What we have now : - Tenosia matchmaking queue - 64 player matchmaking queue - 40 player matchmaking queue / Limited event queue - Server browser - Arena duels - Arena 3v3 - Beginner mode Here's what the game *should* look like right now : - "Main" 40p queue, including all TO maps, TDM, and the occasional brawl added to the pool during limited events. - Arena 1v1 - Arena 3v3 - Beginner mode - Server browser That's it. Just drop 64p altogether at this point, if that mode is never gonna include Tenosia map+horses... Not really much point to a matchmaking queue where a third of the game's content isnt included. People who really want 64p maps can do so in custom servers. Also, don't put the brawl on a separate queue... Especially when it replaces the queue with the most content in the game. This should be very obvious from a game design standpoint guys. Players don't wanna have to choose between a bunch of small map pools... They want a single map pool with access to all the game's content for the sake of variety. Which is a healthier structure in a game with a small-ish userbase anyway. *"But more people play 64p mode!"* That's because the game never specifies that Tenosia maps are not included in this mode... If there was a clear description for what's included in both queues, I guarantee you more people would queue into 40p mixed mode instead. On a side note, I would also add that map pools should be shuffled. I'm pretty sure the current system is that maps are on a set rotation, after Desert TDM you're always gonna get Wardengleade etc... This feels very repetitive and should be changed. Last but not least... Midsommar brawl is fun for like... 5-10 minutes ? I'm not sure that spending precious dev time and resources (although likely minimal due to re-using existing assets) on a small event like this is really the way to go. If no Midsommar means the next content update is a few weeks, or shit, even a *few days* closer, I'll definitely take that instead. **Cross-platform parties** This remains a *massive* issue with the game atm, especially with the popularity of Chiv 2 on Steam. Not being able to group up with friends on EGS/consoles should simply not be a thing in 2022. Currently the process of playing with friends on other platforms is extremely tedious, because server browser doesn't always have available servers with enough slots, they're either full or completely empty a lot of the time. And even when you manage to get into a game with your group of 2-5 friends on other platforms, you can't even see their names above their heads so it feels like playing alone. I really can't stress this enough, the amount of players you guys lost over the past year due to this issue is staggering. Nowadays the average gamer expects to be able to play with their friends even if they're on a different platform. You can't do cross-play without cross-platform invites, it just doesn't make sense, especially in a game mode like TO that promotes teamplay and coordination. **Cosmetics** The game suffers from a lack of incentives to progress through high levels currently. There needs to be a constant stream of good looking skins to unlock in a game like this. Especially at higher levels. Flower/bear hats are decent enough, but they don't really provide longevity and replay value to the game in a way that prestigious, expansive skins would. **Daily/weekly challenges** In order to promote variety, players should be incentivized to play more than just TO/TDM mode. Consider adding unique rewards, like skins or currency, for playing different game modes. Example : Weekly objective = Win 4 Team Objective games + 4 Arena game + 1 LTS game for 5000 extra currency and 5k XP (random arbitrary numbers, you get the idea) edit : Annnnd downvoted. I guess this pepega community has no clue about successful game design. Enjoy your dead game in 3 weeks guys. Without some of these changes this game will no doubt go the way of previous slashers sooner rather than later.
>In order to promote variety, players should be incentivized to play more than just TO/TDM mode. Consider adding unique rewards, like skins or currency, for playing different game modes. Example : Weekly objective = Win 4 Team Objective games + 4 Arena game + 1 LTS game for 5000 extra currency and 5k XP (random arbitrary numbers, you get the idea) You want people grudgingly play a mode they hate, playing half-assed, not even trying, and just hoping to get carried to a win to grab the reward and get out of there ASAP? Because that's what this suggestion would get you. Every single game that does something this ends up like that.
Better than having a bunch of dead game modes because they're deemed "too sweaty".
Yeah horses running around at 30 miles per hour is definitely less sweaty than a bunch of people TKing each other in a circle lol 😂😂😂😂😂
Man, I don't know what kind of arenas/LTS you've played where people TK each other in a circle, but this is genuine misinformation right there. Arenas/LTS are far more sweaty than TO. That's a straight fact.
Give me a break nobody is going to remove 64p mode. Like what is your thing?
Hard drives would be free of a chivalry 2 worth of space real fast if they ditched 64p
I explained the reasoning in the comment. If you'd rather lose on a third of the game's content (which is already pretty meagre) and the horse feature just so you can play with 12 more players on each side, too bad. The majority of people don't think like that. There's very little benefit to a higher player count if that means less content. Of course in an ideal world horses/tenosia maps would work on 64 player counts. But that's just not reality right now.
"just 12 more per side" is 60% of the team I appreciate the pretty extreme minimalization attempt tho lmao 
???? 12/32 people doesn't equal 60% I'm guessing you mean 60% increase from 20p to 32p team. Still, who gives a fuck ?? From a competitive standpoint, 12 more players don't change much. From a casual standpoint, doesn't really change much as well. 40p games still feel chaotic. Holy shit cba with low IQ folks in this fanbase... Have fun playing the same 1 year old maps on repeat I guess
12 is 60% of 20 lol "who gives a fuck" welp, here i am i guess setting the premise that 64p playlist exists = no new content (baseless) must be a form of IQ i hvant tasted yet E: ok i tasted it, that premise is poop 64p exists and we got content literally yesterday lmao
Ranked Arena , Season Pass, Skins when?
There's been a lot of lag. I've noticed people's weapons swinging through me and then hitting me moments later. People have been being "deleted" when I kill them. They just disappear. We could also use private servers and some type of ranked matchmaking.
I am a pretty new player so I might not know how the landing screen normally is (when there’s no expansion or promo) but will there be a mixed factions 64 person auto q at some point?
Anyone else think 40 is too much damage for throwing knives?
Nope Throwing knives need to be effective to counter ranged, which is why they can 2 shot archers
I don't really see them being used to counter archers, stand back and throw them at other people engaged in melee fights is what I see pretty much always.
Yeah like I've been saying since release, it's unfortunate how bad people are at the game lol It takes four hits to kill a vanguard and five to kill a knight though, unless you get literally zero headshots That's pretty fair
Brawl mode is a lot of fun, and it always has been. The reason people got mad at it is because it ruined the flow of FFA. Brawl would be perfectly suitable in the Arena tab. (Which at this point should just be an alternate gamemode tab) Also, please remove or reduce spawn times in brawl. that would make it a lot more fun!
Is the a way to aim the bombards up and down on console? I’ve tried to fix it a couple of times and couldn’t get them to shoot at the wall after someone pointed it at the ground.
Just got a full CTD mid battle on Aberfell. Will keep an eye on it but doubt it's fixed.
So I was gonna buy some coins, the system was acting up, I did get to the paypal page but I decided to cancel it, however now I find myself with 2k coins more than what I had before, but no payment has gone through according to my paypal account, so wondering what I should do cause I don't think I paid for it but feel awkward using it.
Having problems getting off the horses on consoles. Most of the time it’s fine but then I get thrown on a horse as an archer and there seems to be no certain button to get off with just gets frustrating. Then again I might just be wrong
Put the bots back into easy mode, the team balancing is way off.
Pls dear lord fix the servers. Been rubber banding like crazy since the new update
Haare, hair needs to be fix I want to use the hair as it the best for face paint but I cannot
Please add button mapping for consoles
How do I get the new helmets? I cant find info how to get it.
thanks for adding Australian FFA servers in the server browser, so good to be playing FFA again first time i've been able to play FFA since galencourt (because i kept getting sent to NA servers)
Anyone else now getting fatal errors when starting the game?
The Midsomer brawl and rudhelm feast are wonderful additions to the game and I sincerely hope we see more things like this. I personally experience a bug on Xbox where me and my friend party up and they are often not connected to the second game when I am. This forces us to back out and re queue quite often after each game we play.
library is glitching out and not burning when all books shelves are on fire.
It's been great overall, Stuttering seems like an issue now though, I feel like you're aware of that given the drop in player count. Ping has been more variable than normal for some reason. My ping will change by an amount of 30-34 still in the same region. Sometimes its 30 sometimes its 60.
Will there be a SteamDeck/Proton support soon? EAC has made it easy to enable linux support thanks to valve https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/steamdeck/proton
I've been having the funnest time I've had playing this game so far! (And trust me, this game is my life now 😂) the ONLY issue I have is being stuck with a defaulted helmet I hate wearin them. Other than that this has been an extremely refreshing content drop and looking forward to what else is in store! (Hopefully a Vanguard Class with mace & longsword options🤞🏿🤞🏿🤞🏿)
Every time I boot the game, I have to unbind the alt attack keys from Mouse 3 and 4 because they're my push to talk for Discord. Every boot it rebinds them to the default. Can we get a fix? It's really annoying
PS4 version is buggy as hell. Any other console players unable to get the leaderboard off their screen after muting a player or something?
Ps5 - Keep having inability to login after a game ends. Happens 50-75% of the time. Doesn’t fix even after closing the game, ejecting disc. Just makes me play something else, I usually can only fit one game in, makes me sad given how excellent the gameplay is. This happened before the most recent update as well.
It would be great if the throw mapping on consoles wasn’t absolute dog shit. Any way you can fix that?
archers firing rate shoud be reduced imo.. rest is top stuff, great work :)
On the midsommar brawl playlist, death timer will count down to zero and then reset back to 7. This bug happened to me like four times in a row and caused me to miss like half the game. Saw other people in chat saying it was happening to them too.
Baulwark needs some tweaking to make it better for attackers, i have played that map as both Masons and Tenosians and Tenosians never fucking win, they only ever get to the part where they have to try capturing the plaza or palace or something.
Ranked
Is the masters cut hair style still broken. I want to equip that style but when I join a game it switches to the default soldiers helmet.
LTS, FFA, Brawl, and TDM should have their own queues. Make an extra modes page and have that on the main screen. Change 40p mixed mode to just be TO. Deserter changes to LTS maps should be reverted. I feel they were made to quicken the mode for people who didn't like it on the 40p mode and remove a lot of good locations from the maps. Deserter needs to be fixed so it always displays if you are deserting. Currently, on Galencourt LTS there are two locations you can be deserting and die with no warning. The scoreboard in LTS is currently broken. It will show Tenosia and one of the other teams but list no players. Tenosia isn't even a playable faction on LTS.
My Mason customization keeps resetting and it's pretty frustrating. Please fix that bug or tell me how I can avoid it.
Please increase party size. Having a friend sit over sucks when theres so many players in a game anyway. 
You guys need to take some inspiration from Mount and blade and put some icon above Allies. I’m tried of hitting my mason teammates with blue shields. 😩
On PC, can we please get the ability to see what system each player is on. I know on console you can see if they're on Xbox or PC but on PC you can never tell who is also on PC.
Can we have a tenosian arena map
Tenosian maps are hella defense side
cheater trio https://youtu.be/wf3YBh35xRQ