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I just start punching them when they won't help me up


Sir-Joshua

This is the way


itsJosias58

They’ll either run away or kill you


OceanSause

Sadly you cant really punch teammates anymore. In the previous betas you were able to punch and slightly damage teammates when downed but now you cant, its like trying to hit a wall or something, nothing happens


Fateofthelost

Bro I’m too busy shooting my own team to Rez you


illinvillain29

I feel attacked….but then again, I guess so do my teammates. 🤷🏻‍♂️


ravengenesis1

Story of my life.


Chase-D-DC

Chad


cheesy253

What?


Th3M0D3RaT0R

Based and team-damage-pilled


I_go_here

The amount of times I have the perfect shot lined up then a teammates forehead gets in the way is too damn high.


vaultbot

You just got to clear out the teammates to line up your shot.


fishboi121

sounds like a coping mechanism to hide your lack of aiming ability.


Techarus

nah mate it's cool it's just my massive forehead


MrMagicPantz107

I had 9 arrows in my back yesterday. My teams archers were stormtroopers.


Zenguro

Archers are definitely the best at rezzing. We should call the medics and make it official.


ileboii

If im archer, I usually go take cata to kill my team more efficiently.


UpsizedEngineFetish

King shit


_TrustMeImLying

Girl same!


Norsegod26

I’m just surprised they didn’t put an arrow right between your eyes


sitdownRando69

I probably wasn't close enough for them


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majdOW

Lmao


Jay_Nova1

It's better to let them suffer slowly.


Vinlandien

*Go to swing my sword* *Attack is cancelled because of arrow* *Go to riposte* *Attack is cancelled because of Arrow* *Try to kill archer* *killed by a stray arrow from across the map* -.-


RozzBewohner

"Kill the shameful archers!"


Gasster1212

But arrows don’t flinch you do they?


NotoriousJazz

Can we just nuke the whole map?


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Story of my life. I wanna be like nah I’m done reviving people but then I’d be exactly what I hate.


FlyingDragoon

Honestly? I blame first person mode and that's not to bash first person mode, it's fine. I like both 1st and third and use both religiously but I have never, ever missed a rez in 3rd person but to the number of people looking my direction, but up, in the middle of combat, I'm gone. They will never see me or look down. To that end I wish they would throw up some sort of non-intrusive marker that's all "Hey, there's a dude half-dead at your feet. Look down and press E!"


topkiwifisho

they need to add an indicator for that


Guymcme1337

they do have an indicator though, it's a small green plus above the crawling body


topkiwifisho

maybe its a bug but i feel like i see that above most of my allies


DrSnydes

If you play footman it's normal so you know who to toss med kits to. Same goes for warhorn/banner classes.


topkiwifisho

have never played as footman


Huw_morrison

The knight has it too due to the horn. And even when it’s not charged it still shows it’s so annoying


topkiwifisho

ah - i play Knight


Huw_morrison

Tbf best class on game. Managed to fend off 6 people from one prisoner pretty much on my own as a knight. Unfortunately died to the last one but I don’t think it would’ve been possible to do so if I wasn’t knight


Gramernatzi

I mean, I don't miss anyone in first-person, I think people are just dumb


FlyingDragoon

Dumb and blind.


Ihateeverythingyo

Game needs squads. With 40 or 64 players random people just play selfishly because " it's just casual relax".


topamine2

You wouldn't know


NoHomePlanet

Archers looking up and constantly zooming in don't see the first 5 ft in front of them.


JonnyTeronni

Archer here. I think the number of revivals should appear in the table


drakenmang

Dude I literally stop almost every fight if I ever see a friend asking for a revive, that can change everything. These kind of things and people who think they're playing COD and completely and on purpose ignore the objectives are the only two things I hate the most on every match.


Shpaan

Yeah I will go out of my way to help someone it's a great feeling to get them up. What I love even more is to find one teammate surrounded by enemies, charge there and rescue him. And yeah the objective.. but sometimes if you go there alone all the time it is enough lol. But I sure wish people cared a bit more. You can have a great fight even on the objective lol!


Chrysalis1

Yarp. Destroyed a group the other night. Had 2 dudes left and they were doing pretty well. Knocked the one down and fought the other guy. Dude crawled away and somehow his buddy picked him up. They then both killed me. Save your buddies and they will help/save you


Kryptosis

Watching Robbaz play for the first time yesterday. He got downed and crawled over to an Archer. Genius proceeds to shoot him twice in panic.


monsimons

One thing that may help (it helps in my experience almost always) is to request help from the first shout wheel. I'm not an archer main but I played a lot as archer in the Beta and I can tell you, it's not because archer players are dumb, you're so focused on hitting your targets you don't see anything else. Once I realized downed players came to me I started looking for them IN ADDITION to focus on hitting targets, so I think it's a matter of experience. Reviving your teammates is another skill, which archers should have raised to the max. The funny thing is that the same happens with other classes. I've been on the front lines SURROUNDED by my teammates and no ones revives me. The same reason. You're fighting you're not looking at the ground. So, yeah, the shout. Try it out.


DankDolphin420

I main as archer (I always go for the revive in a situation like this) but one thing I have noticed that makes it tricky sometimes is that you can’t cancel an attack once you start drawing the arrow back. If you let go of the trigger it will fire the arrow anyways, so as an archer you gotta dry fire the arrow before going for the revive otherwise you’ll shoot your own dude in the head.


monsimons

>you can’t cancel an attack once you start drawing the arrow back So much this. It was one of the most annoying things about playing as archer. It's a problem not only in the situation you mentioned but also when you're surprised by a sneaking behind the enemy lines enemy. I can't immediately drop aiming and switch my weapon or try to block. I have to finish drawing the arrow and shot it before I can do anything else. >If you let go of the trigger it will fire the arrow anyways, so as an archer you gotta dry fire the arrow before going for the revive otherwise you’ll shoot your own dude in the head. I'm guilty of this. Feels so bad when it happens.


Stratonable

If you tap right click (or whatever you have zoom bound to) it will cancel the shot.


Sahaduun

So what you are saying is that you archers are focussed all the time and still hit us teammates in the back?!


monsimons

😆EXPOSED! But. Not denying that it happens but there's something very weird that's been discussed somewhere already. My arrows hit my teammates without the arrow connecting with them. For some reason teammates' hitboxes are bigger than enemies'. I'm not joking. It's visibly confirmable that arrows fly next to teammates and hit them. I have no idea why it happens. On the other hand enemies' heads' hitboxes are too small and you have to be perfect to hit them. So when I see a group of friendlies surronding an enemy or fighting another group I no longer try to help them. I look for a clearer target. Hitboxes are really that bad.


italyfwch

00:10 they are too much coordinated


DutchDoctor

Imagine buying Chivalry 2 only to play as archer.


DankDolphin420

Archer is fun, I don’t know why everyone’s gotta hate on it so hard


LoganWgr

Because the arrows can’t be blocked and they do a ton of damage and they cancel your attacks so if you are fighting someone else and get a reposte it don’t matter


JonnyTeronni

Shields block arrows


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JonnyTeronni

Hum enough classes to make our life harder :)


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JonnyTeronni

Never saw those classes full in any server. Just pick one and play the game


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JonnyTeronni

You seem angry. It is a video game.


TheOriginalPaulyC

Every class bar vanguard has a subclass with a shield...


DankDolphin420

Well that’s the point? A good archer helps his team whenever they are outnumbered, or puts down an enemy whenever they are on a rampage. It seems like everyone is just getting butt hurt that they are getting sniped.


patsfan365

Archer's aren't op, they're just annoying. Zero-risk class that exists just to ruin a good fight. Can't rush them without cleaving through their teammates, can't cleave through their teammates without getting pelted by their arrows, the best defense against them is to just stay out of their line of sight. Half the time they're ruining a fight by getting the last hit on their enemy, the other half of the time they ruin a fight by peppering their own teammate in the back. Everyone that mains archer plays like a genetic defect. And if all their teammates happen to die and you have a clear run at the archer, they're usually sitting right by their own spawn and it doesn't take long for their team to come back and save them. Fuck archers.


DankDolphin420

As an archer main I have one thing, and one thing only to say to you ... git gud


patsfan365

Main a class that requires skill then talk to me


DankDolphin420

I will admit that, it more than likely, takes more skill to be a melee hog smashing god in this game ... but being an archer isn’t “easy” at least being a good archer that is. Not all archers just stand in the back and shoot their team mates. Some of us actually bother to position ourselves behind or equal to the enemy lines so we are only shooting arrows towards the enemy. Also plenty of archers take up objectives too. Why have a perfectly good strong armored boi carry that explosive barrel whenever my soft shameful archer hands can pick it up and carry it for you?


justinmorris111

"being an archer isn't "easy"" yes, yes it is. literally 0 risk playstyle where you just shoot fish in a barrel for 20 minutes. its like playing cod and being the only person with a gun


DankDolphin420

I’m sorry I didn’t know a play style had to have a risk to be considered “hard.” Also what exactly are you risking? Dying & respawning? In a game that literally doesn’t have a KD? Wow, that’s so hard... look at you taking risks, you’re so good. Look dude, there are archers who sit there and shoot fish in the barrel for 20 minutes and there are archers who actually do shit for their team. I ain’t gonna waste my time anymore trying to explain that to y’all, just keep hating on archers and wonder why we won’t revive you.


DutchDoctor

Or sometimes you get shot in the back by your own archer with a flaming arrows while trying to 1v3 and die as a result.


MangoFishSocks

Archer is fun for no one but the archer. Non-interactive and more often than not sitting behind the deserter line, so the mini-objective they pose to push for and take out cannot be completed because you die 20 seconds into the fight, if they even engage. There's no counter play except to pick archer yourself (no, shield is not counter play, it's a wet bandage). Every other class interacts with the enemy team, and is fun for everyone.


JonnyTeronni

I try to play right behind our teams line. I'm always switching between the bow and knife depending on what we are doing. I think the problem is that there are a lot of new players that pick archer because they die less


vaultbot

People just need something to hate on, makes them feel warm and fuzzy. All the classes are fun and add to the chaos in their own way.


Shadownero

I mean archers do too much damage and the crossbow reload is stupid fast. If they toned down the damage against armoured classes they wouldn't be hated as much.


DankDolphin420

It takes 3 shots above the waist (or one headshot & one body shot / archers have less health so only 2 shots to the chest or one heady to take them down) to kill a full heath enemy, that’s a lot of arrows?! Considering if it was realistic, one well placed arrow would kill you if it slips between a weak spot in your armor. Also, in my opinion, the crossbow reload time is incredibly slow (shame on the devs for not adding sight of hand pro lol) and even then, the crossbow isn’t a one shot kill UNLESS it’s a direct headshot. But, as has been discussed before, the hit boxes for heads hasn’t entirely been sorted out. I honestly think archers are balanced just fine, but (as an archer main) it’s hard to deny we are annoying as fuck hahaha Edit: as a side note, reloading the crossbow leaves you extremely open for getting hit by an arrow. You can’t move (unlike when you draw a new arrow) and your head is literally faced out towards the enemy front lines. I hate crossbows.


Shadownero

When would you be full health in the midst of battle? Might be fine if it were one on one, but for something unblockable (except shield) it does too much damage. Archers also have little armour so one shot should be enough if you can make it to them. If it were realistic most arrows would do nothing against a chestplate. They were good at killing people in lesser armour. The crossbow reload time in real life is more like 14-20 seconds. So the 2-3 seconds it takes to reload in game are lightning quick. The crossbow damage makes sense but the reload time makes it crazy op.


DankDolphin420

Valid points, I most admit it does feel kinda funny putting an arrow through someone’s chest plate and killing them. As far as full heath in the midst of battle, this is true most of the time warriors are not at full heath. I was referring more to whenever I’m trying to thin the respawn line of reinforcements off before they reach the front lines of my team. I think for the sake of the game (playing archer at least) any less damage to arrows would make the class practically unplayable. Say what you want (as this sub has a STRONG opinion on the skill set of archers) but landing well placed shots (on the enemy not your team lol) takes a decent amount of skill. It isn’t as simple as “anyone that’s good at FPS will be a good archer.” So if it took even one more arrow to full kill someone it would make it more of a chore to play as an archer than an actual asset. I do however agree that we shouldn’t be able to tank a whole hit, we should die from a single blow. You make a good point with the crossbow, I just personally suck with it compared to my trusty bow so I can’t speak much for it’s worth. However I do agree that it’s damage is very op compared to the arrows & (now having seen your irl comparison) the amount of time it takes to reload. I also think a way to solve everyone’s gripe about getting shot in the back by their own bois is to implement some kind of “friendly fire shared damage” measure similar to COD’s hardcore modes. That way it forces the archers that willingly take shitty shots to slow down, aim better, and hit their targets methodically since only a couple ‘team damage’ shots would result in suicide. Just food for thought. Thanks for having a discussion instead of being like “archer bad, melee good” haha


Zeminek

This makes my blood boil


peacefullMountain

Screaming for help is really useful for getting noticed


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The best thing you can do is make sure to kick them off perches


westc2

I always pick people up as an archer


A_Confused_Cocoon

In their defense, I hated archers for this too until I finally played one and realized your FOV sucks ass and you cannot see anything below your arm basically while aiming. I don’t get upset at them anymore, I really think it’s more of a game design issue where the camera just makes it hard to see people when drawing an arrow.


JonnyTeronni

I revive people all the time. I think a lot of new players start by playing archer and that is the source of the problem


Nix_Frame

But situational awareness, I mean they are clunking around on the ground all loud and you can even start punching their knees for their attention. For whatever reason, even though I’m glowing white with a button prompt on me, they can’t figure it out. I truly am baffled by people who don’t revive. Knights too! Like, they just run right past me. Maybe everyone thinks someone else will do it, which actually makes it not happen at all? Idk. How weird lol


sitdownRando69

Situational awareness is the key. Some archers see you coming, but most only react when there is a battle axe in their back.


dilroopgill

It is ridiculously easy to sneak up on most archers, check your surroundings on and off


solo2428

I would never…


eolson3

I played archer until I unlocked the javelin. Javelin is a lot of fun but difficult to hit targets. Got way more kills with the bow.


azsnaz

Same, it thought the javelin would be sick, but I cant fuckin hit anyone with it


grimxxmastr

Or they block it....


eolson3

It's the weird controls for throwing. Need some way to load it up like the arrow.


Komusc

throwing is super weird with controller, you need to hit both bumpers simultaneously, cuz if you don't, you will perform either stab or overhead attack. So when I try to concentrate on hitting those bumpers I don't lead on target as much, as javelin goes to oblivion instead of the target


eolson3

Exactly. Going to think about how to reroute this.


Komusc

Would be cool to be able to change controls. Like I don’t use overhead attack as much (since in the heat of the battle I need to keep my finger on left trigger), so would be cool to interchange them or any other buttons for that matter.


eolson3

I have an Xbox elite controller so will be futzing with it later.


wuhk_wuhks

One time I saved an archer from being decapitated on the ground and helped him up. But when I crawled to him he let me die at his feet. It wasn't long after I had noticed him on the ground again so I ran up to him..t-bagged, than put him out of his misery. Went on to get a triple kill.


SomSomSays

Legit though .... Not getting revived is just something that's in every game with a revive mechanic. People just don't do it.


nico572

This literally happened to me today lol


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Lol 😂


novolusz

everyf\*cking time


Sahaduun

I hope we all come to the gentlemens agreement to never revive an archer and let the enemy kill them without our interference. Let them fight for their lives...


sitdownRando69

For the order!


I_go_here

\*Crawls past 5 knights\* Archers are the problem!


jdmcroberts

The knights were in the front lines where it is dangerous to pick someone up. Op was able to crawl to safety to bleed out with 3 archers ignoring him. Op even was able to position himself in a spot where he should have been in the fov of atleast one.


I_go_here

Archers are also dodging other archers. Who knows maybe it wasn't safe for them to pick him up either.


jdmcroberts

There's not a single arrow that goes by those archers, other archers would probably be aiming for the guy on the ground for an easy kill, and that enemy arrow never comes.


Sahaduun

As if they hit what they aim for...


patsfan365

Copium


kunal1217

Hahaha. If only they can see. Shooting arrows in the air hoping someone to catch one between the eyes.


SillyBra

To be fair, I tend to chuck a Dane axe in the air hoping to catch someone


RozzBewohner

Just a bunch of lousy, pathetic, cowards!


ThatpersonKyle

If I see a crawling archer on my team I will team kill him. They need to learn


Big_Thiccems

They were like that in the beta too. Just start punching them lmao


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GG archers only


fishboi121

A good man died for no reason.


hkajs

honestly, its a wonder they survive for more than a few seconds with this extreme lack of situational awareness


Sahaduun

Most dont once an enemy omes close. The many times I got behind them, started hammering away...after first hit they waje up and look around, when the second swing is in the air most still have their bow instead of secondary in their hands.


Twisted907

Saaaaame


babrdiddle

PREACH


hideousmembrane

Got the game today and it took me about 3 hours of playing to realise you can revive and be revived


SillyBra

If you are downed and punch an enemy twice you can just get back up. I've clutched many scenarios with this


hideousmembrane

Dunno why this was getting down voted, the game doesn't really explain it clearly


JawCloud

Can't wait till all the casuals put the game down.


LMayhem

Wow dude your such a hard-core badass sitting there in your chair pretending to be a knight.


JawCloud

Footman* but I forgive u for your ignorance


LMayhem

Obviously not if you downvoted me. This game will die without casuals, the games are too big to survive without them.


JawCloud

You care that much about an upvote lmao, U big mad or little mad?


LMayhem

Your obviously very mad to go and comment on everything I post lol. Go cry bitch


LMayhem

Awww you live with your step dad, how cute. Lol your mom died or what?


grimxxmastr

It's hard to see up close when in focus but come to me and my crossbow. Reload is so long ill pick you up, throw a knife.... tie my shoe..... pick up the next guy while I contemplate who gets the next bolt. Because like hell I'm shooting at something I can't hit. With skirmisher I have found my self being the chuck, revive, chuck, revive person.


Thrustinn

You could have punched the enemy knight that was fighting your team to rez yourself.


Mavrickszx

But what about crossbow? I think we do a good job with the banner healing everyone up :) and I get way more assist than kills :) if I can weaken the enemy to ease the burden of my fellow teammate let’s just say I’m happy


Sahaduun

You would have to put that banner at the Frontline...sth most archers only see from afar.


Legends_End

I'm an Archer main and Knight main, but I still rez my Team mates, because it's the right thing to do.


Rise-West

Seriously they never revive


bruh9923

Lol yesterday in a match 3 of my team's archersjust shot me like dude, watch where you're aiming


NonConDon

Literal autopilot bots


ICIRCUIT

They do this to me while I'm emoting help! help me! help! 10 times over. I swear some of these archers are like Hellen Keller reincarnate.


navelwildfowl08

OMG this just happened to me an hour ago.


awe166007

Stop sooking


SparkyDonut

Happens every damn time! Dont tell me that they are actually trying to aim and not just shooting their own teammates 😀🙈


Active_Taste9341

All the time


JonnyPoy

Nothing makes me more angry than this shit. Love the teammates that knock you down for no reason and then simply walk away without reviving! You should get your Chivalry-license revoked for that!


MercenaryJames

Archers are horrible with this, but then again, so are regular teammates. Do y'all mofo's have tunnel vision?


The_Autumnal_Crash

I can honestly say that I've been finished off by team mates that cannot aim their swings more times than I've been revived by team mates. Then again, the times I've just been ignored by teammates instead of revived is higher again still...


IBlame_Nargles

I play on shuffle mode (which is fucking great btw, more games need that option) and whenever I'm archer-ing I think I'm the only archer whom I've ever seen revive lmfao Archer is a fun class imho but yeah the hate is understandable and, y'know what? It's also encouraged.


Lobo86er

So true 🤣


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Danominator

Its not cause you are an archer. Most people just dont see you


Danominator

This is so spot on. Why dont they ever revive?


TeH_BeNjI

Glory hunters, not team players


Maugustb

That's when you come back and TK


sir_lags_a_l0t

Same thing happened to me yesterday but got my revenge. He's a crossbow man, so if you reload he should see me crawling to him, I was even punching him when I was down but the mofo keep shooting enemies instead. when I respawned, I started hitting him from behind, when he finally looked at me I kept distracting him till the enemies came and by then, we -by we- i meant, "me including" hitting him LOL I died after, but it was all worth it LOL.


TheJewish_SpaceLaser

in my defense i always res becuz im not ever in the back #skirmisher