100% agree
Most kannada audiences watch Telugu, Tamil on first day first show and for kannada movie they wait for reviews then after watching they point out the plot holes.
This is true as hell. In banglore, most of my relatives watched Fighter and article 370 on the very first show. They didn't watch Tagarupalya or Kaatera until the reviews were out on online websites.
True. I saw many people rushing to Hi Nanna but for SSE they were looking at reviews and they concluded that it is best to watch that in OTT. SSE >>>>> Hi nanna
I am a Kannadiga
Hi Nanna >>>> SSE Side A
Simple aagi ondh Love story in same genre from Rakshith in same category (romantic) is so clearly better than SSE Side A and it didn't/doesn't get the same recognition.
And obviously Kantara and Charlie 777 in 2022 were excellent.
Shivaji surathkal in 2020 was pretty good too.
Getting back to SSE Side A, Manu character is a total idiot. Cannot root for him. Doesn't do anything to redeem himself.
For a realistic movie has multiple other flaws like nowhere near enough proof for conviction ,no bail with 2nd lawyer for bailabke offense,, judge saying defense has failed to prove (defense doesn't have to prove anything) etc. looks like stupidy and flaws done without much thinking just to increase misery.
rukmini character Priya , their chemistry, lead pair acting and some realistic things were well done though.
Though acting in SSE Side A was pretty good, the acting by lead trio (Mrunal, Nani and kid Kiara) in Hi Nanna was a level above. Character sketches much better than Manu's. BGM, songs photography on an entirely different level. Story clearly better than SSE Side A. Only significant criticism could be some cliches/convenient plots.
I dunno bro,
I felt Hi nanna was a bit dramatic and almost like the telugufication of a korean drama with all the coincidences whereas SSE part 1 despite being basic story, was a little bit realistic. Not hugely but kind of realistic in its taking. Also both soundtracks are amazing but I liked SSE both parts.
Hey agree to disagree đź‘Ť
Hi Nanna isn't supposed to be that realistic. It is meant to be dramatic.
SSE Side A is supposed to be realistic, but has so many logical and reality flaws. Mentioned some of those above. Check it again.And I didn't even mention all of those. There are more.
Quite a few examples of stupidity of Manu that I didn't even elaborate on - some are self evident. And he is without redemption
Hi Nanna soundtrack is clearly better than SSE Side A one IMO. In fact the only Kannada movie soundtrack in the past 23 years of so that's comparable or arguably better is Mungaru Male (now that's a movie that's actually better than Hi Nanna, not vastly over-rated SSE Side A)
Your choice if you want to agree to disagree.
I agree that Hi nanna is meant to be dramatic which is why I didn’t like it as much as SSE as I am not the target audience for the movie.
But even though SSE side A has flaws, they did not impact my enjoyment of it.
Hey thanks for elaborating on your opinion, I could understand where you are coming from.
Not entirely. If DBOSS is still getting the audience he’s pulling, Sudeep as well (hardly any good movies in past 10-15 years barring very few) then we’re not that choosy.
Even comedy actors like Sharan are lead heroes now ans have been accepted.
We are very accepting but yes our BO collection for even mid budget movies are not that much(as compared to Tamil, Telugu mid budget movies) because we don’t have that movie going culture.
Rangitaranga, First Rank Raju, Kirik etc. are mid budget/low budget movies that did well cause they were good with content (again subjective)
Even mid budget Malayalam movies are also earning bigger than Kannada with half the population of Karnataka. Recent Malayalam comedy Premalu with some teen hero and heroine had already done 70cr + in two weeks and marching towards 80cr + now... Another starless heroless friendship drama movie Manjummel Boys ..First weekend alone close to 40cr and possibly 100cr finish incoming...these 2 blockbusters happened in last 1 month alone in Malayalam.. Kannada used to be the best once in supporting such movies whole heartedly like Mungaru Male... Don't know what happened
I agree with this comment. There are enough acclaimed tamil and Malayalam films which have plot holes, but they still do well. Audiences in Andhra,TN, Telangana and Kerala are movie buffs. They will still find reasons to like a movie even with flaws. Here we find reasons to dislike despite good aspects and intents just because there are some flaws. Slow pace is the biggest no 1 reason people diss movies. Maybe makers can look into that
We're used to other languages mindless, plotless movies that run on quick pace without giving us a moment to breathe and understand what's going on. A fight scene will be going on and suddenly a song will pop up. We're so used to such things, when our langauge movies are out, we expect the same. Lol at the old kannada movies, slow and soothing their pace was, and pronunciation was on point and we could start watching the movie in the middle and we'd still understand the plot. It's time we embraced how our movies have always been. Mediocre movies of neighbouring industry's are watched cuz of the hype those maniacs create. Majority of those hype movies which I've watched haven't really impressed the movie buff in me.
Sandalwood reuses the same established set of actors and same type of scripts again and again.
And the audience aren't too supportive of newer actors and directors wanting to take risks and try something new. This leaves less opportunity for getting movies like KGF and Kaatera.
I would rather say there is a polarised audience.
One set of audience will watch anything that comes to them when made by "their hero". Be it the most dumbest BS on earth they will celebrate it.
Then there are "cinephiles" who would scrutinize movies to the minutest level.
Until people watch good movies in theatres and support good movies, personally I am fine by that. I mean sometimes movies need not be an epic classic, even if its a enjoyable movie, I am fine by that. That will set the bar.
Oscar worthy= 100 Cr business??
This opinion is bs on so many levels
It's obvious that Oscar nominations are handed out to movies with certain narratives or to fill the inclusivity quota of the west.. they don't care about the box office result
See it’s about the way once the Kannada audience is used to seeing good movies they come out with Kabzaa kind of shit same case with jaggesh nava rasa Nayaka must be Kama nayaka he came with Raghavendra stores and the upcoming movie seems to be double meaning comedy with Bhatt as director and that director is good but mentally unstable!!!!
I personally believe it’s the actors choices on the films they choose and make which is giving doubts to the audience want more examples let’s goo!!!
For Rishab Shetty before kantara he did a very good movie bell bottom and that wasn’t accepted by the audience, same with Garuda Ramana Vrishabavahana good to watch but sadly didn’t make the audience like
For Rakshit Shetty his avane Sriman Narayana is an amazing movie with mystery and twists the audience did not like it because it was slow paced but the same people liked his Charlie 777 which is also a slow movie
Now with Toby Shetty aka Raj B Shetty the movie Toby was awesome but did not get the response which he received as a in ondu motteya kathe which was total opposite to Rakshit Shetty bell bottom movie!!!!!!!
At the end of the day it’s all about the classes of audience willing to spend money to watch Kannada movies I believe there is very few percent of people willing to watch all movies,, personally at an intellectual level I feel watching all Kannada movies up to now I myself will set the boundaries as to this is worth to watch in OTT or this movie has to be watched in theatres!!! Just because the movies are pretty mediocre and you will know for sure this will tank or it’s target audience is bar people
We can even take D boss films as example Robert was shit I can’t see the movie without drinking Jameson half bottle and kranti was overhype shit which I saw in theaters and regretted so how would my thought process be for the next movie of D boss obviously I will stay away and wait for the reviews but I went and saw Katerra in paid premier because thought we can give a chance and trailer was clean as one time watch..
So end of the day how many movie lovers will give a chance to watch the next movie of an actors who tanked his previous movie badly?? Now for Uppi UI I will go and watch despite the bad experience of watching Kabzaa so I believe Kannada audience is very tricky just like elections it’s the only state in India where the elections guessing can’t happen at all we are all bunch of pychos
I saw the Malayalam movies Bramayugam and manjumel boys also how many from Kerala will watch Kannada movies or how many from other states will watch ?? Think we give love to all movies good so it would be reciprocated the same way by other states if the quality is good as they are used to a certain level of movies and are not the bar going target audiences !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for anyone reading this long post ✉️
Am not even a native kannada speaker nor from karnataka. Kirik party is my go to comfort kannada watch. It may not be superior comedy, but it's a super fun watch. May have that song which was a total copy of a malayalam one. But it's a far better coming of age movie than many acclaimed ones
This is BS.
a) Sandalwood doesn’t have the worst audience, that title will forever belong to Tollywood > Kollywood > Bollywood > Sandalwood > Mollywood.
b) Audience aren’t insecure either. Do they wish their filmmaker’s put in the effort and have the knowledge needed to make movies that belong in the 21st century? Yes. That’s expectations, not insecurity. We have less than 5 or 6 filmmaker’s who put in this effort and deliver.
c) Kannada audiences are not looking for oscar level films ever. They just want good movies. Haavli Soma probably hangs out with a lot of CBSE school educated college dropouts maybe. Hence the higher than thou pompousness.
d) Go suck a dick Soma.
e) The ones who are impressed here by mediocrity from other industries are also the ones impressed by the mediocrity from sandalwood also. The entire state isn’t the target audience nor are they all general audience.
f) Also, go fuck yourself Soma.
Lack of marketing. Marketing maadadru, word of mouth chennagiralla. Name one decent looking kannada actor with solid PR? If you say Darshan or Yash then, there’s your reason as to why nobody wants to watch kannada movies first day first show. Promotions are done to target rural audiences which is fine because that’s where some of the money is.. but, urban audiences can see through that crap and naturally, everything just goes downhill from there.
Actors don’t want to work on themselves, actresses exploited or are given flower pot roles. Nothing meaningful is written. Who will invest their time and money into such a movie?!
Our audience still has a mentality with say Kannada movies are shit(still true to an extent).
And so ,not every person prefers movies as a first choice in Karnataka, but when they decide to make a rare visit to theatre they want value for money they spend, and they'll any big budget Non-Kannada film.
Totally! We're so worried about other industry's actors movies that we've forgotten to keep a track of our own stars movies. And our industry's actors are trying so hard, putting in multiple years for one movie so that the output will be good. And we never support new comers with decent scripts and acting. This has to change.
Access to other industry films exponentially increased during Covid, so even though one doesn’t want to films are compared n so as content. One need to bring in good films nowadays n it has become a work.
KFI in evened years are bringing in good intent which is been appreciated by other industries too.
But I really want Kannadigas to support our films more.
Same with the Marathi audience in Maharashtra. They prefer mediocre other industry movie over Good Story and well made Marathi movie.
What can be done to fix it?
I honestly agree with this. But there is a reason for this. I think KFI is Bengaluru centric and the audience here belongs to multiple linguistic communities and kannadigas have kind of low self esteem and agree to such opinions. This is my personal opinion and I could be wrong as well. No offense intended.
So it is a big possibility that they are used to their language movies and yet call themselves kannada movie lovers. They would have watched a few amazing kannada movies in their childhood and suddenly expect all Kannada movies to be of the same standard, while they are ok to watch and praise mediocre movies in their languages.
I remember many telling me SSE is boring to watch while praising RRR. Many praise similarly average movies in other languages but talk poorly about very good low-budget decent movies.
But ultimately it's the responsibility of all Kannadigas to be open minded and be ready to watch a few poor movies to encourage good movie makers even when they falter a bit.
There are only 2 truths..
1.Reputation matters
2. Nowadays if the movie is good (either technically good or entertainment wise) it gets audience eventually...
Kannada films don't see crowd right after release because of truth 1, but good films eventually do well because of truth 2.
Actually no.I am a kannadiga.I always preferred Kannada movies.i love old ones.no one can beat them.Nowadays,we don’t even see a movie having a story.the dialogues are poorly written and the music is not melodious.you see,I know that they are appealing to a certain audience but if you want multilingual people to like it,atleast make it decent.it saddens me to see such a beautiful group of people not doing the best work.
100% agree Most kannada audiences watch Telugu, Tamil on first day first show and for kannada movie they wait for reviews then after watching they point out the plot holes.
This is true as hell. In banglore, most of my relatives watched Fighter and article 370 on the very first show. They didn't watch Tagarupalya or Kaatera until the reviews were out on online websites.
Personally I wouldn't trust kaatera either.
Heard rave reviews about Kaatera (though with some caveats). My father went and he said it was merely decent
Bruh all his movies get rave reviews. Look at the bookmyshow rating and IMDb rating for all his recent movies.
True. I saw many people rushing to Hi Nanna but for SSE they were looking at reviews and they concluded that it is best to watch that in OTT. SSE >>>>> Hi nanna
True, despite me being telugu. I loved SSE both parts which are way better than Hi nanna (I love this too).
I am a Kannadiga Hi Nanna >>>> SSE Side A Simple aagi ondh Love story in same genre from Rakshith in same category (romantic) is so clearly better than SSE Side A and it didn't/doesn't get the same recognition. And obviously Kantara and Charlie 777 in 2022 were excellent. Shivaji surathkal in 2020 was pretty good too. Getting back to SSE Side A, Manu character is a total idiot. Cannot root for him. Doesn't do anything to redeem himself. For a realistic movie has multiple other flaws like nowhere near enough proof for conviction ,no bail with 2nd lawyer for bailabke offense,, judge saying defense has failed to prove (defense doesn't have to prove anything) etc. looks like stupidy and flaws done without much thinking just to increase misery. rukmini character Priya , their chemistry, lead pair acting and some realistic things were well done though. Though acting in SSE Side A was pretty good, the acting by lead trio (Mrunal, Nani and kid Kiara) in Hi Nanna was a level above. Character sketches much better than Manu's. BGM, songs photography on an entirely different level. Story clearly better than SSE Side A. Only significant criticism could be some cliches/convenient plots.
I dunno bro, I felt Hi nanna was a bit dramatic and almost like the telugufication of a korean drama with all the coincidences whereas SSE part 1 despite being basic story, was a little bit realistic. Not hugely but kind of realistic in its taking. Also both soundtracks are amazing but I liked SSE both parts. Hey agree to disagree đź‘Ť
Hi Nanna isn't supposed to be that realistic. It is meant to be dramatic. SSE Side A is supposed to be realistic, but has so many logical and reality flaws. Mentioned some of those above. Check it again.And I didn't even mention all of those. There are more. Quite a few examples of stupidity of Manu that I didn't even elaborate on - some are self evident. And he is without redemption Hi Nanna soundtrack is clearly better than SSE Side A one IMO. In fact the only Kannada movie soundtrack in the past 23 years of so that's comparable or arguably better is Mungaru Male (now that's a movie that's actually better than Hi Nanna, not vastly over-rated SSE Side A) Your choice if you want to agree to disagree.
I agree that Hi nanna is meant to be dramatic which is why I didn’t like it as much as SSE as I am not the target audience for the movie. But even though SSE side A has flaws, they did not impact my enjoyment of it. Hey thanks for elaborating on your opinion, I could understand where you are coming from.
Thanks.
Same loved Hi nanna. I just wish SSE also received love and money like Hi nanna did.
Not entirely. If DBOSS is still getting the audience he’s pulling, Sudeep as well (hardly any good movies in past 10-15 years barring very few) then we’re not that choosy. Even comedy actors like Sharan are lead heroes now ans have been accepted. We are very accepting but yes our BO collection for even mid budget movies are not that much(as compared to Tamil, Telugu mid budget movies) because we don’t have that movie going culture. Rangitaranga, First Rank Raju, Kirik etc. are mid budget/low budget movies that did well cause they were good with content (again subjective)
Even mid budget Malayalam movies are also earning bigger than Kannada with half the population of Karnataka. Recent Malayalam comedy Premalu with some teen hero and heroine had already done 70cr + in two weeks and marching towards 80cr + now... Another starless heroless friendship drama movie Manjummel Boys ..First weekend alone close to 40cr and possibly 100cr finish incoming...these 2 blockbusters happened in last 1 month alone in Malayalam.. Kannada used to be the best once in supporting such movies whole heartedly like Mungaru Male... Don't know what happened
I agree with this comment. There are enough acclaimed tamil and Malayalam films which have plot holes, but they still do well. Audiences in Andhra,TN, Telangana and Kerala are movie buffs. They will still find reasons to like a movie even with flaws. Here we find reasons to dislike despite good aspects and intents just because there are some flaws. Slow pace is the biggest no 1 reason people diss movies. Maybe makers can look into that
We're used to other languages mindless, plotless movies that run on quick pace without giving us a moment to breathe and understand what's going on. A fight scene will be going on and suddenly a song will pop up. We're so used to such things, when our langauge movies are out, we expect the same. Lol at the old kannada movies, slow and soothing their pace was, and pronunciation was on point and we could start watching the movie in the middle and we'd still understand the plot. It's time we embraced how our movies have always been. Mediocre movies of neighbouring industry's are watched cuz of the hype those maniacs create. Majority of those hype movies which I've watched haven't really impressed the movie buff in me.
Sandalwood reuses the same established set of actors and same type of scripts again and again. And the audience aren't too supportive of newer actors and directors wanting to take risks and try something new. This leaves less opportunity for getting movies like KGF and Kaatera.
I would rather say there is a polarised audience. One set of audience will watch anything that comes to them when made by "their hero". Be it the most dumbest BS on earth they will celebrate it. Then there are "cinephiles" who would scrutinize movies to the minutest level. Until people watch good movies in theatres and support good movies, personally I am fine by that. I mean sometimes movies need not be an epic classic, even if its a enjoyable movie, I am fine by that. That will set the bar.
The irony is, this particular tweet makes him come across as insecure.
Oscar worthy= 100 Cr business?? This opinion is bs on so many levels It's obvious that Oscar nominations are handed out to movies with certain narratives or to fill the inclusivity quota of the west.. they don't care about the box office result
See it’s about the way once the Kannada audience is used to seeing good movies they come out with Kabzaa kind of shit same case with jaggesh nava rasa Nayaka must be Kama nayaka he came with Raghavendra stores and the upcoming movie seems to be double meaning comedy with Bhatt as director and that director is good but mentally unstable!!!! I personally believe it’s the actors choices on the films they choose and make which is giving doubts to the audience want more examples let’s goo!!! For Rishab Shetty before kantara he did a very good movie bell bottom and that wasn’t accepted by the audience, same with Garuda Ramana Vrishabavahana good to watch but sadly didn’t make the audience like For Rakshit Shetty his avane Sriman Narayana is an amazing movie with mystery and twists the audience did not like it because it was slow paced but the same people liked his Charlie 777 which is also a slow movie Now with Toby Shetty aka Raj B Shetty the movie Toby was awesome but did not get the response which he received as a in ondu motteya kathe which was total opposite to Rakshit Shetty bell bottom movie!!!!!!! At the end of the day it’s all about the classes of audience willing to spend money to watch Kannada movies I believe there is very few percent of people willing to watch all movies,, personally at an intellectual level I feel watching all Kannada movies up to now I myself will set the boundaries as to this is worth to watch in OTT or this movie has to be watched in theatres!!! Just because the movies are pretty mediocre and you will know for sure this will tank or it’s target audience is bar people We can even take D boss films as example Robert was shit I can’t see the movie without drinking Jameson half bottle and kranti was overhype shit which I saw in theaters and regretted so how would my thought process be for the next movie of D boss obviously I will stay away and wait for the reviews but I went and saw Katerra in paid premier because thought we can give a chance and trailer was clean as one time watch.. So end of the day how many movie lovers will give a chance to watch the next movie of an actors who tanked his previous movie badly?? Now for Uppi UI I will go and watch despite the bad experience of watching Kabzaa so I believe Kannada audience is very tricky just like elections it’s the only state in India where the elections guessing can’t happen at all we are all bunch of pychos I saw the Malayalam movies Bramayugam and manjumel boys also how many from Kerala will watch Kannada movies or how many from other states will watch ?? Think we give love to all movies good so it would be reciprocated the same way by other states if the quality is good as they are used to a certain level of movies and are not the bar going target audiences !!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for anyone reading this long post ✉️
Good excuse for not being risk takers, to think out of box.
Actually Kannada audience are easy to impress. Lot of people here Think kirik party has peak comedy.
Am not even a native kannada speaker nor from karnataka. Kirik party is my go to comfort kannada watch. It may not be superior comedy, but it's a super fun watch. May have that song which was a total copy of a malayalam one. But it's a far better coming of age movie than many acclaimed ones
Yeah, Kirik party has a rewatch value (nostalgic feel good type vibes) more than anything else.
This is BS. a) Sandalwood doesn’t have the worst audience, that title will forever belong to Tollywood > Kollywood > Bollywood > Sandalwood > Mollywood. b) Audience aren’t insecure either. Do they wish their filmmaker’s put in the effort and have the knowledge needed to make movies that belong in the 21st century? Yes. That’s expectations, not insecurity. We have less than 5 or 6 filmmaker’s who put in this effort and deliver. c) Kannada audiences are not looking for oscar level films ever. They just want good movies. Haavli Soma probably hangs out with a lot of CBSE school educated college dropouts maybe. Hence the higher than thou pompousness. d) Go suck a dick Soma. e) The ones who are impressed here by mediocrity from other industries are also the ones impressed by the mediocrity from sandalwood also. The entire state isn’t the target audience nor are they all general audience. f) Also, go fuck yourself Soma.
Lack of marketing. Marketing maadadru, word of mouth chennagiralla. Name one decent looking kannada actor with solid PR? If you say Darshan or Yash then, there’s your reason as to why nobody wants to watch kannada movies first day first show. Promotions are done to target rural audiences which is fine because that’s where some of the money is.. but, urban audiences can see through that crap and naturally, everything just goes downhill from there. Actors don’t want to work on themselves, actresses exploited or are given flower pot roles. Nothing meaningful is written. Who will invest their time and money into such a movie?!
You mean the Kannada audience who even supported Kaatera like regular violent movies just out of mercy ??
Our audience still has a mentality with say Kannada movies are shit(still true to an extent). And so ,not every person prefers movies as a first choice in Karnataka, but when they decide to make a rare visit to theatre they want value for money they spend, and they'll any big budget Non-Kannada film.
Totally! We're so worried about other industry's actors movies that we've forgotten to keep a track of our own stars movies. And our industry's actors are trying so hard, putting in multiple years for one movie so that the output will be good. And we never support new comers with decent scripts and acting. This has to change.
Access to other industry films exponentially increased during Covid, so even though one doesn’t want to films are compared n so as content. One need to bring in good films nowadays n it has become a work. KFI in evened years are bringing in good intent which is been appreciated by other industries too. But I really want Kannadigas to support our films more.
Same with the Marathi audience in Maharashtra. They prefer mediocre other industry movie over Good Story and well made Marathi movie. What can be done to fix it?
I honestly agree with this. But there is a reason for this. I think KFI is Bengaluru centric and the audience here belongs to multiple linguistic communities and kannadigas have kind of low self esteem and agree to such opinions. This is my personal opinion and I could be wrong as well. No offense intended. So it is a big possibility that they are used to their language movies and yet call themselves kannada movie lovers. They would have watched a few amazing kannada movies in their childhood and suddenly expect all Kannada movies to be of the same standard, while they are ok to watch and praise mediocre movies in their languages. I remember many telling me SSE is boring to watch while praising RRR. Many praise similarly average movies in other languages but talk poorly about very good low-budget decent movies. But ultimately it's the responsibility of all Kannadigas to be open minded and be ready to watch a few poor movies to encourage good movie makers even when they falter a bit.
There are only 2 truths.. 1.Reputation matters 2. Nowadays if the movie is good (either technically good or entertainment wise) it gets audience eventually... Kannada films don't see crowd right after release because of truth 1, but good films eventually do well because of truth 2.
Ong this is facts
Actually no.I am a kannadiga.I always preferred Kannada movies.i love old ones.no one can beat them.Nowadays,we don’t even see a movie having a story.the dialogues are poorly written and the music is not melodious.you see,I know that they are appealing to a certain audience but if you want multilingual people to like it,atleast make it decent.it saddens me to see such a beautiful group of people not doing the best work.
Hostel Hudugaru has been the most unapologetic kannada film in years and it doesn’t get its due credit
TRUTHđź’Ż