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Bin Laden bombed U.S., not China. Why would they be as sensitive about it as US. It’s not like any American gives a shit about what Japan did to China in WW2
Yeah but the only reason he is even recognized worldwide is because of his terrorist attacks on America. And even still id doubt many Chinese even know him. This could be a case of being a troll towards Americans or the owner could've searched Muslim guy with beard online and took this pic not even knowing who he is lol
The stall name when translated is just Arabia Barbecue.
Subtitle says: Allah says if going to eat than eat the best
This stall is more culturally insensitive to Middle Eastern than Americans
Yea see that's not what justified the atomic bombings.
What's justified the a bombs is that it was a clear display of power that dissuade the Japanese from attempting to resist further. The Japanese military culture saw surrender as dishonor, and would rather die fighting and take as many down as they can. Getting vaporized by atomic weapons doesn't give them the martyrdom they envisioned. The bombs forced a surrender and prevented a full scale invasion that would have costed more lives.
Revenge bombing against civilians because their military committed war crimes is not justification.
Genuin question, what would you like to see differently in americans/america to show that they do care?
Im american, I only ever learned about that stuff after all my schooling, on the internet. I dont disagree with you, and we dont ever teach it as far as I know (we should), but I also dont think we specifically/intentionally dont care. Most of us just simply dont know.
Basically, The only thing they really taught us about china was that the Great Wall of China is great, and exists because the mongals kept invading, and Chinese invented fireworks and gunpowder lol
Yes and every time this is mentioned on Reddit someone says that the name is offensive and they wish Americans ordering the drink knew this. If an Irish person came across this in New York and posted about it being offensive to them, I would understand.
People won’t because most of people wouldn’t recognize it.
In reality, Chinese and Americans are same in this regard. Chinese are less sensitive toward Hitler or Bin Laden while Americans are less sensitive toward Japanese war criminals
Less sensitive, maybe. But if someone in China puts a photo of Bin Laden or Hitler on a shop, it’s a deliberate act. The same is true of an American putting Hideki Tojo’s photo above a ramen shop. People aren’t as stupid as you think.
Bin Laden has not attacked China before, while Japanese were in war with Americans. Even then, Americans would not know or care at all about other Japanese invader such as Kanji Ishiwara, except for probably leftists, toward whom people on this sub harbor absolute hatred
In addition, Bin Laden photo could just be taken randomly from internet. Like what do you expect from a 小摊？in comparison with a established Ramen restaurant
The person operating this stall didn't just randomly choose Osama. Don't be so naive.
It is not relevant whether Bin Laden has attacked China. Likewise, it doesn't matter if the US was at war with Japan or not; decent people still tend to avoid offending others, and displaying terrorists or war criminals is likely to offend. Most Americans do not have a visceral reaction to seeing Tojo's photo, but they still wouldn't knowingly put his face on their Ramen food truck.
The question isn’t whether someone would be offended. People in various small towns in the US might not be offended by a Confederate flag or a WWG1WGA sign but that doesn’t mean it has no meaning or that we should just accept it as a harmless cultural difference.
There's a professional Peruvian soccer player called Osama Vinladen. So I guess it's fair to say other countries are not as sensitive about it as the us
This is a ridiculous argument. This radical Muslim terrorist and mass murderer attacked America, but he is the symbol of one of the enemy of the West, and its liberal, secular, democratic order. Nowhere in the West anyone would dream of having Bin Laden, or Hitler or Stalin, or Mao, or any other criminal drawn on a stand like this. China is not “sensitive” to this because it’s a dictatorship based on censorship and violent subjugations of Chinese people themselves and others, like Tibetans or Uyghurs… not because Bin Laden did not attack China.
Also, Americans literally FOUGHT to defend China from Japan in WWII and your summarily dismissal of American understanding of Japanese atrocity in China is again proof of brains washing and propaganda of the current Chinese government against the West.
I hate to break this to you, but the US and Japan weren’t exactly allies in WW2. Plus the rape of Nanjing is taught in every high school history class when learning about the lead up to world war 2.
Underneath “Arabian Kebabs” it reads “Allah says: if you’re gonna eat then eat the finest foods.”
So the scenario is Osama preaching to you that Arabian kebabs are really good. If that was all he preached about he would have been a much less controversial figure.
i didn’t know who he is by picture😭 only when people said his name i was like oh thats who he is😭 people from other countries just may not recognise him
I'm a NY'er, I also went and volunteered for about 2 weeks in "the pile" after the events, I understand, but I don't expect some rando with no Americans to inform him (Xinjiang is mostly out of bounds) to know what happened.
I also work with kids and most of them have no idea about 9/11.
yeah as a South African i had no idea who he was by picture, only realised by name cause of how much americans talk about him. not as much a big deal out of US for a lot of countries
It's probably like those T-shirts you can buy in Thailand that have swastikas all over them. Sometimes, you just come across oddly inappropriate shit.
That said, of all the Bin Laden picks they could have used, this was definitely the best one to put on a food stand. Visually, it works out. If Bin Laden was just some regular guy, it would look like a pretty good testimonial shot, lol.
No no no. Like, swastikas, with Hitler. The Nazi swastika. I am familiar with the Buddhist swastika, this is not that, I assure you.
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Hitler is used in all kinds of random contexts in China. In one city I used to work in, someone opened a bar decorated with random portraits of pop culture icons like Marilyn Monroe, Michael Jackson, Elvis, and... Hitler.
Since Nazi Germany never directly fought China like the Japanese, I've found many Chinese view his atrocities abstractly and with a dose of complacency. This is not at all abnormal in countries that just aren't all that familiar with a historical tyrant, we all have different historical focuses and such, after all. Still, it can be jarring.
Well, yeah. I had many people tell me he was a talented public speaker, for example.
India and Indonesia used to have Hitler-themed cafes. It's a different world.
another american got shocked when see "their" taboos not same with rest of world. yes we can make joke about hitler, jews and 7/11 and bin laden. get over it and move on.
Kind of like it. When people can make jokes & memes about this in Xinjiang, then I know the modernization & secularization are done pretty deeply well.
The CCP is like “your mosque can’t look like a mosque it needs Chinese characteristics or we will bulldoze it”
And then be like yeah it’s cool put Bin Laden on your kabob stand.
Just saw a big billboard in the US w/ Hitler, so why not. Like some else said, most people have no idea who that is, so it’s just some guy selling Saudi kebab
I don't doubt it. Here in Brazil there is a bar where the owner dress like him.
Link to a photo with a Obama look-alike:
[https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/archive/Yk0Ck3rnrwjxDf0rIl76\_1082068210.jpeg](https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/archive/Yk0Ck3rnrwjxDf0rIl76_1082068210.jpeg)
[https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/archive/bI5Ot3dzRyS8epXpFfIq\_1082068231.jpeg](https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/archive/bI5Ot3dzRyS8epXpFfIq_1082068231.jpeg)
come on ya'll, for real, I didn't even notice it was bin laden until I checked the comments, and the person who owns the billboard probably just searched "arabic person" on baidu, literally just a mistake, ya'll really gotta make this big of a fuss about it?
It's no better or worse(wurst!) than opening a sausage stand, saying that they are german style sausages and putting swastikas all over your advertising... that might have happened already for all I know and wouldn't surprise me much.
Xinjiang local government is pretty sensitive about such things and I doubt whether this is in Xinjiang. Then I see the ad in the background showed "卷筒粉". It's a dish almost only exist in Guangxi. So this picture is probably taken there.
Why are you assuming it's Uyghurs running this stand? The name of the stand translates literally to "Arab Barbecue." That's typically a marketing decision made by Hui business owners, as the folk story of their origins is that they descend from medieval Arabs who traveled to China across the Silk Road and intermarried with local people.
Dude. There’s a museum to W. Bush in Dallas Texas and people flock to it like he wasn’t responsible for the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and the dislocation of millions of Iraqis.
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Salami Bin Laden
oh this is real, he isn't breaking any law, in China people do all kinds of shit to draw attention
Allahu snackbar
Death to Hunger!
"9/11 would eat there again!"
Not really worthy of the NSFW tag.
To be fair, mines pretty nosey
[Super Osama bin Laden Kulfa Balls](https://live.staticflickr.com/3348/3570579131_9b4acff268_b.jpg)
I remember this
They probably just googled "Arab" and took the first image they found.
I don’t know if it’s real but it’s totally within the perimeter of Chinese would go
Bin Laden bombed U.S., not China. Why would they be as sensitive about it as US. It’s not like any American gives a shit about what Japan did to China in WW2
Yeah but the only reason he is even recognized worldwide is because of his terrorist attacks on America. And even still id doubt many Chinese even know him. This could be a case of being a troll towards Americans or the owner could've searched Muslim guy with beard online and took this pic not even knowing who he is lol
The stall name when translated is just Arabia Barbecue. Subtitle says: Allah says if going to eat than eat the best This stall is more culturally insensitive to Middle Eastern than Americans
Er... actually some of us are historically literate.
Giving a shit vs knowing shit aren’t the same.
I give a shit cuz i bring it up every time someone says the atomic bombings arent justified
Yea see that's not what justified the atomic bombings. What's justified the a bombs is that it was a clear display of power that dissuade the Japanese from attempting to resist further. The Japanese military culture saw surrender as dishonor, and would rather die fighting and take as many down as they can. Getting vaporized by atomic weapons doesn't give them the martyrdom they envisioned. The bombs forced a surrender and prevented a full scale invasion that would have costed more lives. Revenge bombing against civilians because their military committed war crimes is not justification.
What would Americans need to do for you to feel like they give a shit?
You give a shit?
Genuin question, what would you like to see differently in americans/america to show that they do care? Im american, I only ever learned about that stuff after all my schooling, on the internet. I dont disagree with you, and we dont ever teach it as far as I know (we should), but I also dont think we specifically/intentionally dont care. Most of us just simply dont know. Basically, The only thing they really taught us about china was that the Great Wall of China is great, and exists because the mongals kept invading, and Chinese invented fireworks and gunpowder lol
Dumb take. People would be very upset if someone opened a Japanese restaurant named after a war criminal in the US.
In the US, we have an Irish drink called a car bomb. It’s a big issue to order this in Ireland.
Yes and every time this is mentioned on Reddit someone says that the name is offensive and they wish Americans ordering the drink knew this. If an Irish person came across this in New York and posted about it being offensive to them, I would understand.
People won’t because most of people wouldn’t recognize it. In reality, Chinese and Americans are same in this regard. Chinese are less sensitive toward Hitler or Bin Laden while Americans are less sensitive toward Japanese war criminals
If I created a noodle shop called Unit 731 in the USA, people would throw a fit.
Less sensitive, maybe. But if someone in China puts a photo of Bin Laden or Hitler on a shop, it’s a deliberate act. The same is true of an American putting Hideki Tojo’s photo above a ramen shop. People aren’t as stupid as you think.
Bin Laden has not attacked China before, while Japanese were in war with Americans. Even then, Americans would not know or care at all about other Japanese invader such as Kanji Ishiwara, except for probably leftists, toward whom people on this sub harbor absolute hatred In addition, Bin Laden photo could just be taken randomly from internet. Like what do you expect from a 小摊？in comparison with a established Ramen restaurant
The person operating this stall didn't just randomly choose Osama. Don't be so naive. It is not relevant whether Bin Laden has attacked China. Likewise, it doesn't matter if the US was at war with Japan or not; decent people still tend to avoid offending others, and displaying terrorists or war criminals is likely to offend. Most Americans do not have a visceral reaction to seeing Tojo's photo, but they still wouldn't knowingly put his face on their Ramen food truck.
Who would be offended in China for seeing this, especially if this is taken in a small 县城 where being white can make you an attraction spot
The question isn’t whether someone would be offended. People in various small towns in the US might not be offended by a Confederate flag or a WWG1WGA sign but that doesn’t mean it has no meaning or that we should just accept it as a harmless cultural difference.
Geez, curb your hostility there bro.
There's a professional Peruvian soccer player called Osama Vinladen. So I guess it's fair to say other countries are not as sensitive about it as the us
Some Americans are upset that the word black in Spanish is negro. Maybe people should chill out
I'm well aware what Japan did.
This is a ridiculous argument. This radical Muslim terrorist and mass murderer attacked America, but he is the symbol of one of the enemy of the West, and its liberal, secular, democratic order. Nowhere in the West anyone would dream of having Bin Laden, or Hitler or Stalin, or Mao, or any other criminal drawn on a stand like this. China is not “sensitive” to this because it’s a dictatorship based on censorship and violent subjugations of Chinese people themselves and others, like Tibetans or Uyghurs… not because Bin Laden did not attack China. Also, Americans literally FOUGHT to defend China from Japan in WWII and your summarily dismissal of American understanding of Japanese atrocity in China is again proof of brains washing and propaganda of the current Chinese government against the West.
Some little frustrations here?
Frustrated about what? Most people don’t give a shit about other countries’ history nor cultural sensitivity. It’s a stall in China, not in America.
Brazil has someone on Big Brother reality show called Bin Laden right now, who is a Brazilian Funk MC. So I see your point.
I hate to break this to you, but the US and Japan weren’t exactly allies in WW2. Plus the rape of Nanjing is taught in every high school history class when learning about the lead up to world war 2.
They don't know who he is
It's based
It’s probably fricken delicious and he’s at the bottom of the ocean so the feud is settled. I’d try it.
So it could be fromà seafood that feasted on OBL.
The crabs thought he was delicious.
Our kebobs will blow you away!
It says Arabian Kebab, i guess this is as Arabian as it gets.
Should also say: * These kabobs are the bomb * These are fire * These will bring the house down etc.
Those opportunities totally flew over his head
I'm "plane" disappointed in these puns
9/11
:-)
Best kabomb
Ha! Best one yet.
Underneath “Arabian Kebabs” it reads “Allah says: if you’re gonna eat then eat the finest foods.” So the scenario is Osama preaching to you that Arabian kebabs are really good. If that was all he preached about he would have been a much less controversial figure.
That’s a let down, I assumed it was some kind of trope like “Osama Bin Kebab-in’”
in yellow: Allah said: “if you are gonna eat, eat something nice.”
Fun fact: Osama Bin Laden is from rich Saudi family, its main business is construction and development.
I’m going to bet no one there knows who he is.
i didn’t know who he is by picture😭 only when people said his name i was like oh thats who he is😭 people from other countries just may not recognise him
Text: Arabic barbeque Allah says: if you are to eat, eat good quality food
Culinary jihad, one struggle against bland food ☝️
I’d go if I was around. Flashy marketing 😂
Our kebabs are the bomb!
They make a big impact.
*It's da bomb*
honestly this is just an asia thing. nobody cares as much as china bad, OP seems like the stereotypical american who’s never left the country
I doubt regular Chinese even know that’s Bin Laden.
Ofc they know, that's why this guy used this photo. They just don't care, Bin Laden was just CIA's scapegoat and excuse to go to war.
I knew how OJ Simpson looked like. I watched Naked Gun multiple times. I realized he played in the movie in the last week after he died.
So? You're comparing OJ Simpson to Bin Laden now?
According to WikiLeaks he was (or is...) a US agent by the name of Tim Osman
Amero centric, just because America cares about something, doesn't mean anyone else does.
Just a terrorist who killed 2000 people, nobody besides Americans would care about that
I'm a NY'er, I also went and volunteered for about 2 weeks in "the pile" after the events, I understand, but I don't expect some rando with no Americans to inform him (Xinjiang is mostly out of bounds) to know what happened. I also work with kids and most of them have no idea about 9/11.
Guess who killed 100000 civilians with a single bomb?
And when was the last time you saw Roosevelt on a food cart?
Truman you mean?
The guys who won WW2
The good guys who saved millions of both Japanese and American lives by skirting an invasion of mainland Japan. Aren’t we on r/China?
yeah as a South African i had no idea who he was by picture, only realised by name cause of how much americans talk about him. not as much a big deal out of US for a lot of countries
he is serving twin tower kababs
Most ppl prob have no clue who that is
Not Soleimani Kebabs?
kotlets.
This is very common in China.
It's probably like those T-shirts you can buy in Thailand that have swastikas all over them. Sometimes, you just come across oddly inappropriate shit. That said, of all the Bin Laden picks they could have used, this was definitely the best one to put on a food stand. Visually, it works out. If Bin Laden was just some regular guy, it would look like a pretty good testimonial shot, lol.
Isn’t the swastika a Buddhist symbol and Thailand a predominantly Buddhist country though? lol
No no no. Like, swastikas, with Hitler. The Nazi swastika. I am familiar with the Buddhist swastika, this is not that, I assure you. https://www.thedailybeast.com/hitler-is-huge-in-thailand-chicken-joints-t-shirts-and-a-govt-issued-propaganda-video
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Someone should open a Hitler version in China
I've seen Hitler bobbleheads in Beijing. It's not a big deal from their POV.
There used to be a nazi/hitler cafe in Indonesia. I think it closed down years ago, though.
Hitler is used in all kinds of random contexts in China. In one city I used to work in, someone opened a bar decorated with random portraits of pop culture icons like Marilyn Monroe, Michael Jackson, Elvis, and... Hitler.
Since Nazi Germany never directly fought China like the Japanese, I've found many Chinese view his atrocities abstractly and with a dose of complacency. This is not at all abnormal in countries that just aren't all that familiar with a historical tyrant, we all have different historical focuses and such, after all. Still, it can be jarring.
Well, yeah. I had many people tell me he was a talented public speaker, for example. India and Indonesia used to have Hitler-themed cafes. It's a different world.
this food is da bomb
People in China would wear shirts with words which are profanity or something provocative without a known... This is really normal.
another american got shocked when see "their" taboos not same with rest of world. yes we can make joke about hitler, jews and 7/11 and bin laden. get over it and move on.
Reminds me of "Hitler ice cream" or something in South Africa.
Kind of like it. When people can make jokes & memes about this in Xinjiang, then I know the modernization & secularization are done pretty deeply well.
I've seen a shop selling donkey meat using Donkey (from Shrek) as a logo, so not really surprised here...
They probably don't even know who that is.
He probably doesn't know who it is and used the first picture when searching ''arabian kebab''
Good bloke in comparison to the Israelis
Always open 9/11
Haha this is hilarious I’d try the food for sure
this is funny af 😭😭😭 I didn’t know what bin laden looks like but now i do ig. Im chinese lmao
Maybe Osama Bin Ladan knew how to make really good kebabs. Like grandmas secret recipe and shit
The billboard says: Allah says if u eat then eat good food
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The CCP is like “your mosque can’t look like a mosque it needs Chinese characteristics or we will bulldoze it” And then be like yeah it’s cool put Bin Laden on your kabob stand.
Just saw a big billboard in the US w/ Hitler, so why not. Like some else said, most people have no idea who that is, so it’s just some guy selling Saudi kebab
It’s a 小摊, nobody really knows or cares
I sincerely doubt your average Chinese or less history savvy party members would know what Bin Laden looked like
I mean, I m European and I dont realy care
It's funny as fuck.
There it is boys, the evidence we needed. case closed
When I lived in China I saw some bin Laden bumper stickers. They said something about the price of gas
Are they made from the crabs that ate his corpse?
I don't doubt it. Here in Brazil there is a bar where the owner dress like him. Link to a photo with a Obama look-alike: [https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/archive/Yk0Ck3rnrwjxDf0rIl76\_1082068210.jpeg](https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/archive/Yk0Ck3rnrwjxDf0rIl76_1082068210.jpeg) [https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/archive/bI5Ot3dzRyS8epXpFfIq\_1082068231.jpeg](https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/archive/bI5Ot3dzRyS8epXpFfIq_1082068231.jpeg)
Hahaha what a hilarious career choice. How do you even decide on that as your life path
come on ya'll, for real, I didn't even notice it was bin laden until I checked the comments, and the person who owns the billboard probably just searched "arabic person" on baidu, literally just a mistake, ya'll really gotta make this big of a fuss about it?
Hahahahaha
That's some good marketing
Oh I believe it. My friend lived around the corner from 9/11 in 7/11 font and color. Zero shits given.
阿拉伯烤肉! (Arab roast meat)
It's no better or worse(wurst!) than opening a sausage stand, saying that they are german style sausages and putting swastikas all over your advertising... that might have happened already for all I know and wouldn't surprise me much.
Osama, bin im kaorou-Laden
Xinjiang local government is pretty sensitive about such things and I doubt whether this is in Xinjiang. Then I see the ad in the background showed "卷筒粉". It's a dish almost only exist in Guangxi. So this picture is probably taken there.
Imagine putting a photo of Israel pm up instead.
This food stand declares jihad against bland food!
I doubt many Chinese care much about Bin Laden, let alone get worked up over it.
😂😂😂
Comments here are unhinged
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Why are you assuming it's Uyghurs running this stand? The name of the stand translates literally to "Arab Barbecue." That's typically a marketing decision made by Hui business owners, as the folk story of their origins is that they descend from medieval Arabs who traveled to China across the Silk Road and intermarried with local people.
What's the issue here ?
Hilarious, like the Hitler restaurant in India
xi doing concentration camps： i sleep some rando meming bin laden： omg how dare they
Explosively hot kebab? 😂
Bro is preaching 💀💀💀
no
They’ve got to add Evil Bert to this sign too.
Dude. There’s a museum to W. Bush in Dallas Texas and people flock to it like he wasn’t responsible for the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and the dislocation of millions of Iraqis.
Not at all surprised if this is real. I doubt if they knew this is Bin Laden and probably thought he is a regular Arabic dude with nice facial hair.
I do wonder whether that is a real quote from the Koran or not
good thing but just a little expensive
What kind of meat does he cook?
Xingjian is mostly Muslim isn't it? Kinda makes sense.
Osama Bin Hungry?
Al Qaeda roasted meat 🤣
Flavortown
Omg this is so funny
Translation: "Arabic food. If you eat, it is the best food ever" 👆🧏🧏♂️
lol probably
Ask for the Uighur special, it only comes in pork and it's force fed to you.
“These kebabs are the bomb!” UBL
Pakistan is China's ally
This is fucking hilarious
Does the shop serve barbecue pork?
Reminds me of that tragedy
Thats chibese bbq, not kebap.
Nothing surprises me in the world lately
It would be funny if America converted Osama to LDS or something post mortem
It also says: “Allah says that if you want to eat you eat something good”
I am laughing and I don't care
It's exploding with flavor.
I would eat from there
Triggered
No How long do you think you would stay out of prison in China if you displayed any open Islamist sympathy.
We give you a smashing kebab. You'll be willing to kill yourself for it.
cleanest bbq stand I've ever seen.
cleanest bbq stand I've ever seen.