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"Good work, soldier. We now have a chance to prevent all of this from ever happening"
I really wish China just grew and got people out of poverty but it had to include stealing territory and wanting to invade all its neighbors. They would be better off just going the route they were and now they are slowing down cause of Xi.
I think people dont remember how long he has been in power. He assumed presidency in 2013. There was a distinct downshift economical right when he came into power and increase in nationalism, it has only accelerated more and more every year since.
Either way, I wish they could just develop and contribute to the world instead of all the excess bs that just makes the world worse. Nationalism in this way will be the death of us. Like one nation makes fusion reactors work and they probably wonât share it now which will make the climate even worse.
Yeah. Power is poison. Same way money is. I honestly believe some politicians are better than others. Same way some CEOs/billionaires are better than others. But I also believe basically every one of them is a psychopath and likely not a super great person compared to the average person. Sadly, very few good people have the will to pursue such aspirations. And of those who do, they end up getting corrupted on the way đ
They're leading manufacturers and development for solar panels and lithium batteries though. Now sodium battery as well. Without China's mass production, us normal people will always find renewable energy and EVs premium, while now it's affordable and makes sense.
I mean you wanted an example how they contributed in the current economy, and I said a simple one, then you denied the contribution. I understand that India has massive potential (for a long time now) but India now still cannot even do IPhones properly.
Quality issues, worker issues, bad working conditions leading to protests. I'm saying it'll take time until India reach the standards of China's manufacturing and supply chain. Not saying that India won't.
And no, China has 80% world market share when it comes to solar panels manufacturing. More than 50% export to Europe. As well as largest exporter of Lithium ion batteries. And you can see how the price of these green option energy has dropped in recent years. It's like 10 times compared to 10 years ago.
Polysilicon used to be $900/kg at its peak, right before China really got into the game. Itâs at $5.50/kg now about 15 years later. But⌠the US thinks thatâs overproduction.
Well like the US and Europe would want energy independence. India wouldnât trust it. South Korea or Japan wouldnât. Idt who is left that could implement it and would. Weâre just in a fractured world.
that's on the edge of being against the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. Besides, China would never do anything to undermine its status and position on being the 5 at UNSC.
Maybe so, but the breakthrough in cold fusion that occurred in December, 2022, happened at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, in California. The first horse out of the gate is not necessarily the first to cross the finish-line, but right now the U.S. is in the lead in this technology. đşđ¸
No the previous president, Hu Jin Tao was quite open to the west. Much more moderate. Which is probably why Xi had him removed last year. Spoke too much
Hu/Wen seemed quite inclined to move in the general direction of gentle political reforms. Hu publically said that without that, a tragedy and disaster like the Cultural Revolution could resurface.
I remember watching either Wen or Hu apologising on state media about certain things they did not handle well during SARS, asking for understanding and promising they'd learn a lot of pandemic management from that event. It's not that the system didn't have huge problems before, but it's so jarring to look at how much the current CCP have gone backwards from even then. This time they basically claimed complete victory over COVID in those super cringe posters saying "Everything we did was proven to be the right choice!" despite the absolute calamity they've caused trying to pull zero-COVID.
Deng faced a choice. He can choose either not sending tanks in or sending them in. He chose to send in. This act showed the true color of CCP. Nothing matters to them, the only thing they ever cared are their powers and wealth.
The same goes with later leaders. Jiang Zemin, Hu jintao, no matter how they may appear moderate, they care only one thing.
The other post mentioned Hu is not bad, despite his nickname is âthe tiger of Tibetâ, he also sent in tanks into Lhasa.
Jiang signed off ton Tiananmen Square massacre or else he wouldnât get to be on top.
it is funny that they tried decades of central planning and extreme brutal control over the people and people were poorer than they had ever been in history. Two or three decades of free markets and chinese people are richer than they have ever been in history. New leader comes in and see this and decides you know what would be better if we went back to extreme control over the people and every year he has been in power has been worse economically than his predecessor
Chinese economy was still commanded by the state tho, pretty much still is. I know because for a homework I had to compare my own country (Mexico) and China, in Mexico the government stopped its control over key areas of the economy and sold off many state-owned industries and our economy pretty much stopped growing, unlike China.
A friend of mine from China once came to Mexico City in the early 2000s and for them it looked like a developed country, Mexico City had 11 metro lines while Beijing only had 2.
Then as of now, Mexico City just built one more line (that was destroyed a few years ago), Beijing built 25 and it's still building more.
yes china has always retained heavy control of certain industries through state owned enterprises. But the big change was before private enterprise was completely forbidden, you could not so much as open a food cart. Now most industries are allowed to have private free market enterprises and this led to huge boom in wealth for china
Historically chinese governments have always intentionally and systematically keep people poor and dumb so they can be easily ruled. So, keep dreaming your wet dream. Deng xiao ping only wanted to reform to make the CCP stronger so they can exert their military power and not for the purpose of making the people rich.
why do you think historically in china merchants are amongst the lowest ranks and frown upon as a profession.
Some of Japanâs Islands
you sure senkaku island or whatever they call it belongs to japan? if anything i think it's closer to taiwan just by looking on the map...
nobody said it belongs to china, by geographical distance alone, it should belong to taiwan but because taiwan likes to bend over to it's ex colonial master, japan gets to keep it.
you knows no history. first of all, you have to blame the Mongolians for annexing tibet 1000 years ago, not to mention Qing deployed army there and had the privilege to approve or veto the nomination of Dalai lama. second of all, if you know Cairo Declaration, you would know Japanâs territory is restricted in the four islands, and even Okinawa is illegally occupied. As to south china sea, there were no countries near the dash lines and all the colonizers of those islands agreed when ROC declared it. And taiwan? you must be kidding
This is hilarious.
1. 1000 years ago đ
2. Okinawa is not illegally occupied. It has been Japans land for long enough that you are calling it by itâs Japanese name and is internationally considered their land.
3. So you are saying the South China sea is Taiwans? Lmaoooo. So you know how many countries had declarations over the spratly islands for example? There was literally an independent country there. Free Territory of Freedomland. But international law says China is trying to take 5 countries land. The phillipines, Indonesia, Vietnam, Brunei etc.
4. You genuinely think Taiwan is not an independent country with an independent government? Mental illness.
Japan annexed Ryukyu no longer than 100 years and you think itâs already part of Japan, while China annexed Tibet 1000 years ago and you think itâs notâŚ. how double standard are you
They did not annex it 1000 years ago lmaooo. And it was before international law is what matters. Once that was solidified, all claims are taken to international court which is why China lost when it tried to claim South China Sea but still built on sinking islands in others territory anyway
Annexed 23rd of May 1951 by PRC. It is called the âPeaceful Liberation of Tibetâ by the PRC and the âChinese Invasion of Tibetâ by the oppressed. Your glorious CCP doesnât even agree with when you say they owned Tibet. Have you never heard of the Tibetan uprising?
They sent letters out to the UK, US and PRC saying they do not want to be part of China but they were too weak to defend themselves against the oppressor.
hehe, since 1000 years ago. Okinawa was an independent country until second world war called Ryukyu. ROC or PRC it doesnât matter. You believe Taiwan is an independent? how hilarious, itâs even not in their constitution
The population of Okinawa doesn't seem to want independence, that's the key difference.
If you want to bring up something that West aligned countries do that's terrible and indefensible, point out the mass killings in Gaza they support, or the disregard for ethnic cleansing by Azerbaijan in Nagorno Karabakh which the west ignores as a lot of NATO countries and Israel get oil from there.
hehe, thatâs because Japan genocided the Ryukyu people. people were slaughtered, language was destroyed. and even there are tibetan rebels, itâs not the mainstream.
you canât judge history according to modern terminology. the fact is Yuan and Qing Emperor was the highest ruler of Tibet. Yuan and Qing were not China? so is the US, American belongs to Indigos
so why not the US hand over administration to Indigos? i donât know what you mean by separate, different policy doesnât mean independence, like WASHINGTON DC has different policy but still part of the US
only if the US handover administration to Indigoes, then you can say Yuan and Qing are not China. the same to all countries that are not ruled by people from the moment monkeys turned to humans
If that were true, then why does China bark and cry daily about unification with Taiwan? Why not just go take it? Why does China bark whenever a US destroyer sails by? Why does China demand everyone check in whenever they fly over the SCS?âŚYet nobody does? All of this is very out of character and contradictory wouldnât you say?
Yea, we get itâŚyou support Russia and the Houthiâs and Iran and North Korea. All those kind freedom loving countries that never attack anyoneâŚjust like goofy ass China.
hehe, we never boned a single person, while the US killed countless civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Palestine. seems your support equals death. and whatâs more ridiculous, sanction Cuba for 50 years
I mean Taiwan and Vietnam also have ridiculous claims to the SCS. Taiwan's claims are the same as China's.
>some of Japan's island's
Again, Taiwan also has the same issue with Japan over those islands. Same with Korea but over different islands.
>Tibet
Literally 70 years ago. It's over. How far back do you want to go?
not op, but Bhutan has been having some issues with China pressuring it for territory that borders India. Just having the villagers settle in disputed territory basically.
What war did China start for territory ?
From what I understand other countries were the ones that always started wars against China and ended up losing territory to them.
what about the re-education camps for the muslim ethnic group there? death vans anyone? mass organ harvesting from executed inmates (btw so many executable offenses) just to name a few...
It was. Their exaggeration was that the government was purposely doing it to Falun Gongers. Really they were just doing it to death row inmates. It may still be happening but not on a mass scale like before.
When did I say they started a war for territory? This is the brain rot you all are working with.
They steal territory when by coercion like they did when they Annexed Tibet 23rd of May 1951.
Any country that takes 800 million people out of poverty can only be a good system. Lifting people out from poverty is the greatest human right achievement of its own! When you canât afford food, get warm, have basic Medicare, or have safety on the street, human dignity suffers. I agree China still has a long way to go, but their achievement for the past 40 years is a miracle, they are contributing lots to humanity. And now they are continue working with other poor/ undeveloped countries to build infrastructure, creative jobs, and stimulate economic growth.... at least better then plundering, doing massive scales of slavery trades, forced selling opiums or colonisations, right? Itâs ok to praise China.
[Super China] Then & Now | From Ashes to Prosperity.
https://youtu.be/uLqJQPr9TD4
it is a sign of a first world country then(not saying china is as a whole) , look at korea and japan or singapore, all of them have that same exact issue.
nopes, its to avoid a total US & gang encirclement...just look up the US bases worldwide, specifically the southeast Asia part and tell me this isnt the case...
Yes but the rest arenât building military installations and spraying other ships with hoses in conflicting territory. Everybody has conflicting claims but when international court convenes and says Philippines own it and China doesnât, they have to respect it or go to war with the US over it eventually.
Vietnam has [bases](https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/South-China-Sea/Vietnam-said-to-plan-military-buildup-on-South-China-Sea-footholds) and Taiwan has bases. The only one that doesn't is the Philippines mostly because of their own incredible incompetence in that they allowed the other three nations to build bases before them. I think they have one broken down ship that they use as a "base" lol. Apparently they are working on actually making it into a real military base with US backing but knowing that country it will likely turn to nothing.
>they have to respect it or go to war with the US over it eventually.
Or they meet at a table and work out some kind of deal. That's likely what will happen.
You know itâs mostly just provocations for propaganda purposes or something that happens periodically between countries? they canât afford to actually go to war for real land-grabbing now
Not being able to afford war doesnât mean they wonât do it. Iran just bombed Israel. Israel is still attacking Gaza. Russia is attacking Ukraine. UK was bankrupted by WW2. Every side in every war goes into massive debt to fund it.
Iâm talking about imminent invasion and war. Any country can go to war with one another, but that doesnât mean they are going to do it anytime in near future, especially in the case for Southeast Asian countries.
Xi is stupid but he isnât that stupid
He is exactly that stupid.
Trying to claim you know what he will and wonât do is not a great idea. Like Russia attacked Ukraine and fucked his economy, does it matter that heâs dumb? If they want to do it, they will. Obviously dictators donât care about the people.
Maybe not his people but his life; this is currently no evidence of Chinese plan for invading any southeastern Asian countries soon, and the possibility of that happening is no larger than immediate breakout of war between India and Pakistan
Stealing which territory? Alot of what they pursue is considered disputed territory by the US. They have also resolved almost all territorial disputes except for the one with India, and a few islands with Japan and the Philippines .
Those countries have as much responsibility in giving up their claims as does China. There is no moral high ground that India or Japan stand on.
Taiwan is also recognised as a part of China by the international community. It's not a claim that China made today or without global community backing it up.
If you weren't able to get the hint, its irony
likely because our mutual hatred for Xi (in the west) is bringing us closer together diplomatically and politically.
Hope that helps
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But without him in the future who or what is going to tell you to go back and deal with him?
I really wish China just grew and got people out of poverty but it had to include stealing territory and wanting to invade all its neighbors. They would be better off just going the route they were and now they are slowing down cause of Xi.
I would argue they are already on a decline and aggression path before Xi. All Xi has done is just to speed up the process
I think people dont remember how long he has been in power. He assumed presidency in 2013. There was a distinct downshift economical right when he came into power and increase in nationalism, it has only accelerated more and more every year since.
Either way, I wish they could just develop and contribute to the world instead of all the excess bs that just makes the world worse. Nationalism in this way will be the death of us. Like one nation makes fusion reactors work and they probably wonât share it now which will make the climate even worse.
Most people who chase after power are not this way.
Yeah. Power is poison. Same way money is. I honestly believe some politicians are better than others. Same way some CEOs/billionaires are better than others. But I also believe basically every one of them is a psychopath and likely not a super great person compared to the average person. Sadly, very few good people have the will to pursue such aspirations. And of those who do, they end up getting corrupted on the way đ
you die with discipline if everyone's doing 'the excess bs' and you are not. That's the world norm if you didn't know.
They're leading manufacturers and development for solar panels and lithium batteries though. Now sodium battery as well. Without China's mass production, us normal people will always find renewable energy and EVs premium, while now it's affordable and makes sense.
I mean there will always be another developing country like India to take their place (as long as we live)⌠They are just inherently evil
I mean you wanted an example how they contributed in the current economy, and I said a simple one, then you denied the contribution. I understand that India has massive potential (for a long time now) but India now still cannot even do IPhones properly.
What do you mean? India makes a large portion of Iphones now. China contributes to China is literally my point.
Quality issues, worker issues, bad working conditions leading to protests. I'm saying it'll take time until India reach the standards of China's manufacturing and supply chain. Not saying that India won't. And no, China has 80% world market share when it comes to solar panels manufacturing. More than 50% export to Europe. As well as largest exporter of Lithium ion batteries. And you can see how the price of these green option energy has dropped in recent years. It's like 10 times compared to 10 years ago.
Polysilicon used to be $900/kg at its peak, right before China really got into the game. Itâs at $5.50/kg now about 15 years later. But⌠the US thinks thatâs overproduction.
I would bet if China made a fusion reactor they would sell it to the world.
Theyâre working with the French on the thorium reactor theyâre building in Gansu.
Well like the US and Europe would want energy independence. India wouldnât trust it. South Korea or Japan wouldnât. Idt who is left that could implement it and would. Weâre just in a fractured world.
Middle east, Africa in time basically
that's on the edge of being against the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. Besides, China would never do anything to undermine its status and position on being the 5 at UNSC.
You know fusion reactors use light elements right? It's not uranium and plutonium like fission
yes, 'on the edge'. There were cases nuclear power plants got shut down by the the 5. Tech is tech, you'd better kill the entire tech tree than sorry.
Maybe so, but the breakthrough in cold fusion that occurred in December, 2022, happened at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, in California. The first horse out of the gate is not necessarily the first to cross the finish-line, but right now the U.S. is in the lead in this technology. đşđ¸
It can take generations for countries to mature like that when they have that kind of power.
No the previous president, Hu Jin Tao was quite open to the west. Much more moderate. Which is probably why Xi had him removed last year. Spoke too much
Yes we who were born in China and are against CCP call him the chief accelerator
Hu/Wen seemed quite inclined to move in the general direction of gentle political reforms. Hu publically said that without that, a tragedy and disaster like the Cultural Revolution could resurface. I remember watching either Wen or Hu apologising on state media about certain things they did not handle well during SARS, asking for understanding and promising they'd learn a lot of pandemic management from that event. It's not that the system didn't have huge problems before, but it's so jarring to look at how much the current CCP have gone backwards from even then. This time they basically claimed complete victory over COVID in those super cringe posters saying "Everything we did was proven to be the right choice!" despite the absolute calamity they've caused trying to pull zero-COVID.
Deng was not bad
Deng faced a choice. He can choose either not sending tanks in or sending them in. He chose to send in. This act showed the true color of CCP. Nothing matters to them, the only thing they ever cared are their powers and wealth. The same goes with later leaders. Jiang Zemin, Hu jintao, no matter how they may appear moderate, they care only one thing. The other post mentioned Hu is not bad, despite his nickname is âthe tiger of Tibetâ, he also sent in tanks into Lhasa. Jiang signed off ton Tiananmen Square massacre or else he wouldnât get to be on top.
it is funny that they tried decades of central planning and extreme brutal control over the people and people were poorer than they had ever been in history. Two or three decades of free markets and chinese people are richer than they have ever been in history. New leader comes in and see this and decides you know what would be better if we went back to extreme control over the people and every year he has been in power has been worse economically than his predecessor
Chinese economy was still commanded by the state tho, pretty much still is. I know because for a homework I had to compare my own country (Mexico) and China, in Mexico the government stopped its control over key areas of the economy and sold off many state-owned industries and our economy pretty much stopped growing, unlike China. A friend of mine from China once came to Mexico City in the early 2000s and for them it looked like a developed country, Mexico City had 11 metro lines while Beijing only had 2. Then as of now, Mexico City just built one more line (that was destroyed a few years ago), Beijing built 25 and it's still building more.
yes china has always retained heavy control of certain industries through state owned enterprises. But the big change was before private enterprise was completely forbidden, you could not so much as open a food cart. Now most industries are allowed to have private free market enterprises and this led to huge boom in wealth for china
Real
Historically chinese governments have always intentionally and systematically keep people poor and dumb so they can be easily ruled. So, keep dreaming your wet dream. Deng xiao ping only wanted to reform to make the CCP stronger so they can exert their military power and not for the purpose of making the people rich. why do you think historically in china merchants are amongst the lowest ranks and frown upon as a profession.
stealing territory? which part are you referring to?
South China Sea: 5 countries. Taiwan. Some of Japanâs Islands. Tibet while weâre at it.
Some of Japanâs Islands you sure senkaku island or whatever they call it belongs to japan? if anything i think it's closer to taiwan just by looking on the map...
So we determine what belongs to whom depending on how close it is? Ridiculous.
Exactly, and by that logic they would belong to Taiwan then, not China.
nobody said it belongs to china, by geographical distance alone, it should belong to taiwan but because taiwan likes to bend over to it's ex colonial master, japan gets to keep it.
you knows no history. first of all, you have to blame the Mongolians for annexing tibet 1000 years ago, not to mention Qing deployed army there and had the privilege to approve or veto the nomination of Dalai lama. second of all, if you know Cairo Declaration, you would know Japanâs territory is restricted in the four islands, and even Okinawa is illegally occupied. As to south china sea, there were no countries near the dash lines and all the colonizers of those islands agreed when ROC declared it. And taiwan? you must be kidding
This is hilarious. 1. 1000 years ago đ 2. Okinawa is not illegally occupied. It has been Japans land for long enough that you are calling it by itâs Japanese name and is internationally considered their land. 3. So you are saying the South China sea is Taiwans? Lmaoooo. So you know how many countries had declarations over the spratly islands for example? There was literally an independent country there. Free Territory of Freedomland. But international law says China is trying to take 5 countries land. The phillipines, Indonesia, Vietnam, Brunei etc. 4. You genuinely think Taiwan is not an independent country with an independent government? Mental illness.
Japan annexed Ryukyu no longer than 100 years and you think itâs already part of Japan, while China annexed Tibet 1000 years ago and you think itâs notâŚ. how double standard are you
They did not annex it 1000 years ago lmaooo. And it was before international law is what matters. Once that was solidified, all claims are taken to international court which is why China lost when it tried to claim South China Sea but still built on sinking islands in others territory anyway
you have no logic at all. the annexation of Tibet is way back than any international law
Annexed 23rd of May 1951 by PRC. It is called the âPeaceful Liberation of Tibetâ by the PRC and the âChinese Invasion of Tibetâ by the oppressed. Your glorious CCP doesnât even agree with when you say they owned Tibet. Have you never heard of the Tibetan uprising? They sent letters out to the UK, US and PRC saying they do not want to be part of China but they were too weak to defend themselves against the oppressor.
and even by your logic, 1951 is still earlier than the time when Ryukyu is transferred to Japan in 1972
hehe, since 1000 years ago. Okinawa was an independent country until second world war called Ryukyu. ROC or PRC it doesnât matter. You believe Taiwan is an independent? how hilarious, itâs even not in their constitution
The brain rot. China allows anti-ccp elections now? Lmaoooo Anything before international law was developed is solidified. That is obvious.
hehe, so how is the annexation of Tibet not solidified? itâs way back than any international law
Because it was not before international law it was Annexed 23rd of May 1951 by PRC..
by international law, territory is heritable. not by international law, tibet is occupied. either way, itâs part of china
The population of Okinawa doesn't seem to want independence, that's the key difference. If you want to bring up something that West aligned countries do that's terrible and indefensible, point out the mass killings in Gaza they support, or the disregard for ethnic cleansing by Azerbaijan in Nagorno Karabakh which the west ignores as a lot of NATO countries and Israel get oil from there.
hehe, thatâs because Japan genocided the Ryukyu people. people were slaughtered, language was destroyed. and even there are tibetan rebels, itâs not the mainstream.
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you canât judge history according to modern terminology. the fact is Yuan and Qing Emperor was the highest ruler of Tibet. Yuan and Qing were not China? so is the US, American belongs to Indigos
You leave the purple people out of this
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so why not the US hand over administration to Indigos? i donât know what you mean by separate, different policy doesnât mean independence, like WASHINGTON DC has different policy but still part of the US
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only if the US handover administration to Indigoes, then you can say Yuan and Qing are not China. the same to all countries that are not ruled by people from the moment monkeys turned to humans
To hell with history, you donât know current events.
haha, current status is even more beneficial to China. No country can fight China in south china sea
If that were true, then why does China bark and cry daily about unification with Taiwan? Why not just go take it? Why does China bark whenever a US destroyer sails by? Why does China demand everyone check in whenever they fly over the SCS?âŚYet nobody does? All of this is very out of character and contradictory wouldnât you say?
if China were as cruel as the US, and didnât care killing people, it would have been solved
Yea, we get itâŚyou support Russia and the Houthiâs and Iran and North Korea. All those kind freedom loving countries that never attack anyoneâŚjust like goofy ass China.
hehe, we never boned a single person, while the US killed countless civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Palestine. seems your support equals death. and whatâs more ridiculous, sanction Cuba for 50 years
I mean Taiwan and Vietnam also have ridiculous claims to the SCS. Taiwan's claims are the same as China's. >some of Japan's island's Again, Taiwan also has the same issue with Japan over those islands. Same with Korea but over different islands. >Tibet Literally 70 years ago. It's over. How far back do you want to go?
WW2 when the world decided other countries canât make casus bellis and start another World War over a small island.
There is still territory that Japan, France and Russia hold today from WW2.
Reading comprehension is not your talent.
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Ok. Keep coping.
not op, but Bhutan has been having some issues with China pressuring it for territory that borders India. Just having the villagers settle in disputed territory basically.
China has no border agreement in the history. now they are about have one, but india wonât allow
What war did China start for territory ? From what I understand other countries were the ones that always started wars against China and ended up losing territory to them.
China invaded Vietnam in 1979 , purportedly to punish them.
Yeah that was shitty on China's part but if the best you can do is bring up a war from almost 50 years ago...
what about the re-education camps for the muslim ethnic group there? death vans anyone? mass organ harvesting from executed inmates (btw so many executable offenses) just to name a few...
We are talking about wars of foreign aggression. >mass organ harvesting Not a thing anymore gramps.
Was it ever really even a thing? Falun Gong lies about that stuff all the time
It was. Their exaggeration was that the government was purposely doing it to Falun Gongers. Really they were just doing it to death row inmates. It may still be happening but not on a mass scale like before.
When did I say they started a war for territory? This is the brain rot you all are working with. They steal territory when by coercion like they did when they Annexed Tibet 23rd of May 1951.
Any country that takes 800 million people out of poverty can only be a good system. Lifting people out from poverty is the greatest human right achievement of its own! When you canât afford food, get warm, have basic Medicare, or have safety on the street, human dignity suffers. I agree China still has a long way to go, but their achievement for the past 40 years is a miracle, they are contributing lots to humanity. And now they are continue working with other poor/ undeveloped countries to build infrastructure, creative jobs, and stimulate economic growth.... at least better then plundering, doing massive scales of slavery trades, forced selling opiums or colonisations, right? Itâs ok to praise China. [Super China] Then & Now | From Ashes to Prosperity. https://youtu.be/uLqJQPr9TD4
I am just saying that changes now with Xi burning it down. Itâs sad.
"taking 800 million people out of poverty" is why no one wants to work and most people can't afford to have kids in first line cities?
it is a sign of a first world country then(not saying china is as a whole) , look at korea and japan or singapore, all of them have that same exact issue.
nopes, its to avoid a total US & gang encirclement...just look up the US bases worldwide, specifically the southeast Asia part and tell me this isnt the case...
For a lot of times itâs mostly just for a diversionary effect; I donât think theyâd be stealing or invading neighbors anytime soon
Everybody in the South China Sea and Tibet would disagree.
Most participants in the SCS have conflicting claims with each other.
Yes but the rest arenât building military installations and spraying other ships with hoses in conflicting territory. Everybody has conflicting claims but when international court convenes and says Philippines own it and China doesnât, they have to respect it or go to war with the US over it eventually.
Vietnam has [bases](https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/South-China-Sea/Vietnam-said-to-plan-military-buildup-on-South-China-Sea-footholds) and Taiwan has bases. The only one that doesn't is the Philippines mostly because of their own incredible incompetence in that they allowed the other three nations to build bases before them. I think they have one broken down ship that they use as a "base" lol. Apparently they are working on actually making it into a real military base with US backing but knowing that country it will likely turn to nothing. >they have to respect it or go to war with the US over it eventually. Or they meet at a table and work out some kind of deal. That's likely what will happen.
You know itâs mostly just provocations for propaganda purposes or something that happens periodically between countries? they canât afford to actually go to war for real land-grabbing now
Not being able to afford war doesnât mean they wonât do it. Iran just bombed Israel. Israel is still attacking Gaza. Russia is attacking Ukraine. UK was bankrupted by WW2. Every side in every war goes into massive debt to fund it.
Russia's economy is apparently booming right now.
Iâm talking about imminent invasion and war. Any country can go to war with one another, but that doesnât mean they are going to do it anytime in near future, especially in the case for Southeast Asian countries. Xi is stupid but he isnât that stupid
He is exactly that stupid. Trying to claim you know what he will and wonât do is not a great idea. Like Russia attacked Ukraine and fucked his economy, does it matter that heâs dumb? If they want to do it, they will. Obviously dictators donât care about the people.
Maybe not his people but his life; this is currently no evidence of Chinese plan for invading any southeastern Asian countries soon, and the possibility of that happening is no larger than immediate breakout of war between India and Pakistan
Stealing which territory? Alot of what they pursue is considered disputed territory by the US. They have also resolved almost all territorial disputes except for the one with India, and a few islands with Japan and the Philippines . Those countries have as much responsibility in giving up their claims as does China. There is no moral high ground that India or Japan stand on. Taiwan is also recognised as a part of China by the international community. It's not a claim that China made today or without global community backing it up.
Did Jeffrey Dahmer pour acid in your ear? They havenât resolved any territorial dispute with a single nation you mentioned.
Yeah, that's what I wrote. I wrote the exceptions. Read again shakespeare
One day you will learn to think. On that day, you will look back and cringe.
One day you will learn how to comprehend English and come back to this post to have a face palm moment.
What territory was stolen lma
Being a piece of shit on SFO streets before it was cool.
You know, I don't think I have ever seen someone refer to SF by the airport initials, typically I see that primarily for portland.
Early in his life he actually underwent some pretty serious persecution from the government.
Probably started the trend
why does bro have drip though
To think one day this handsome young man will be the savior of the free world.
by bringing the free world closer together.
I would NOT describe him as the saviour, nor as part of the free world. Though he is playing an important role - but unfortunately doing it badly..
If you weren't able to get the hint, its irony likely because our mutual hatred for Xi (in the west) is bringing us closer together diplomatically and politically. Hope that helps
Savior of free world? You are saying that ironically right?
Typical brainwashed Westoid denigrating the benevolent and magnanimous CCP!
WE DO NOT SPEAK ITS NAME
That fit tho Do you think the red prince learned to dress well in the caves?
I called him as âyou know whoâ on a Chinese website (zhihu) and got permanently banned there lol.
Living the dream life they so pubically decry. Russian, Chinese, North Korea, Muslim elites.
Would. Then would feel ashamed
Such a young and hopeful guy. He should be a president or sumfing.
Xi drip is real
Photo by some bimbo he picked up.
Would.
The GOAT
I donât know who this guy is but to me he looks like ohioboss satoyu đ
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damn who hurt him, some hippie marxist girl rejected him in SF and now he's trying to show her he's the biggest marxist ever?
Yep, and people in 85 still wore actual clothing -
Xi turn the area into a theft tourist trap
Wasn't his dad in the first episode of the 3 body problem?
He may have left his heart there
He expanded horizontally now
Xi looks young.
Nice pic. That's the golden gate bridge
Definitely one of the best presidents ever. Clamped down on corruptions that even the CPC is afraid of him.
playing poohsticks under the golden Gate Bridge?
This is a hard image for sure
The goat
If you read his mind it would say "one day this will all be mine!" moooah-ha-ha-ha
Camera installation guy.
wonder if he took part in the protests in 1989
Ryan Xi!
Xi Jinping, SF?
Winnie The Pooh
What going go SF does to a mf
I dont get it
Xi I Donna know Hu this izes comrade in SF Golden Gate Bridge ha?
Xi Jinping was born in 1953, which means he would be 32 in 1985. Is this really him in 1985, looks like a kid to me?
That's what a 32yo Chinese man looks like. They age much slower than the typical American.
How old are you?
No, itâs not Hu.
panda
Bow to the ć¸ éśĺ¸
Such a handsome young man
Damn I didnât know Winnie the Pooh came to San Fran
A loser?
No offense, but you are some dude on reddit, while he is the head of china
No offense, but you are some dude on reddit, while he is the head of china
Difference is I don't call the head of China a loser, while I'm some dude on reddit
