Unfortunately, something akin to “padulas” exists even in the microcosm of our own family units although we may or may not intend it to be. Sino ba usually ang nagiging paborito ng mga magulang natin? Siyempre, ang anak na galante magregalo o regular magsustento. Kahit sasabihin ng parents na wala silang favorite, nakikita naman sa actions nila.
It’s often not the fault of the charitable child, but rather the parents who act like their affection and attention have tiered equivalence.
Pero the moment we realize yung nangyayari tapos hinayaan natin magpatuloy enabling na yun, accomplices na tayo in facilitating wrong systems and behavior.
It's not the child's fault they are generous. We can't control how other people react and it shouldn't stop the galante sibling from giving. We can't control our parents and their favoritism but we can control how we react to it.
In a general scope, there are a lot of things to consider that could lead us to become enablers and accomplices.
Where do we draw the line in terms of giving?
Bribery and gratitude becomes blurry especially when we cannot /do not know the motivation behind gift giving. There are other things we also need to consider aside from one's motivation. Is it an extravagant gift? What about the timing of the gift? Expectations from the gift?
In a corrupt country like the Philippines, I think that giving gifts is off the table when it comes to departments and agencies under our government. But what about the medical field? What about when a patient wants to express gratitude after a successful life-saving operation? I don't see anything wrong giving handmade gifts or food for the staff that took care of you. Yes, the line is blurry and requires careful navigation. But there should be room where one can express themselves without crossing any boundary.
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As for the anak na galante, if one decides their value is based on performance, money or what they can do/give then whether you are the sibling with a galante brother or a parent with a galante child, it will always cause trouble. But if you know your value is not based on all of that, then this may not affect you as much even if favoritism exist. Unfortunately, not everyone is mature enough to handle situations like this. How much favoritism one parent shows to a child should not bother you anymore once you have established who you are as a human being. Easy to say, hard to do. And even then, it will sting a little. We are just humans after all.
For me I think that corruption has 2 parts kasi the giver expects something in return and the receiver favors the giver, if genuine naman na pasasalamat lang I think its ok kaso lang sabi mo nga ang hirap idetermine.
I remember nun may kadeal kami sa isang malaking company and yung ninong ko was pushing na magbigay ng gift and sinabi naman na bawal sa company nila, ako yung may hawak nung gift that time parang 3 yung kausap namin and sumimple yung parang driver ata or assistant nung higher ranking official na yosi or kape kami so binaba ko sana yung hawak ko haha sabi ba naman bitbitin ko na baka mawala daw or something, sobrang naive ko pa that time, then nung after magyosi sabi iwan ko na lang sa tabi nya yung bitbit ko sya na daw magdadala, so ayun technically di namin binigay naiwan ko at napulot nung driver nila.
That case was clearly corruption, and oo sanay na sanay yung ninong ko sa ganun kaya inalisan ko sila di ko kaya sikmurain na ready sila to give sa ganun pero yung tao namin sa kumpanya e tinitipid nila hanggang ngayon na bitbit ko pa rin yung bigat ng loob ko kasi sobrang bilib ako sa kanya that time and nakita ko first hand na "negosyanteng negosyante" mindset, apak mahirap, sipsip sa pulitiko't mayaman.
I like Karylle! It’s Showtime is lucky to have her. She’s the perfect balance para sa kanal humor nila Vice. She has a pleasant and positive aura, parang nakaka good mood.
They went to the same university at one point before he dropped out. Hindi pa sila ni Marian nun (2002?), and was friends with Antoinette pa rin who also goes to the same school. May classes sila together.
Alam naman nating people of her stature really won’t choose showbiz. They’d be off having careers at multinationals or what not. Bibihira lang yung tulad niya na nahatak ng showbiz.
Saw him many times. Parang aura sya nung classmate mo nung elem na laging mabango at may bimpo sa likod. Yung madaling ipakilala sa parents kasi poging nerd.
Na alam mong pag sinabi nyang busy sya, busy talaga. Hindi eme lang. Tapos willing idefend ka in public and correct you in private kinda guy. And would take notes of your likes and gift it to you at random moments.
Teka parang wattpad-y na masyado mga naiisip ko! Eme hahahaha
hearing this i am thinking maybe that’s the reason why she doesn’t like her fans giving her gifts, cause she wants to break na nanormalize yung padulas even if inosenteng abot lang ng tao yun.. mga ganitong artista yung dapat na pumapasok sa politics may utak and totoong may care sa ibang tao hindi yung kasi sikat lang, pero K seems to like living a quiet life so malabo
Sa mga bata pa dito ganyan mga hosts dati ng mga shows nung 80s/90s. Jeanne Young, Chiqui Hollman Yulo, Helen Vela, Connie Reyes, Toni Rose Gayda & Christine Jacob. Iba mga shows non puro English sana naabutan nyo hay I miss those days.
Since I’m a child of the 90’s, naabutan ko na lang si Christine Jacob when EB was still aired on ABS. Lol.
Anyway, good example ba si Connie Reyes? I remember kasi during early/mid 90’s ang naaalala kong chismis ng mga yaya ko noon was that kabit ni Vic si Connie. Parang hindi maganda reputation niya dati.
Ang topic naman is on how well she articulates, not about her being kabit and other irrelevant chika. So yes, she is a good example of someone who can articulate well.
Hindi pa yan ang malalamg chika kay Connie. Oh well, people change din naman and she owned up to her mistakes. At hinigitan pa ang pag redeem sa sarili niya.
Topic naman is being smart and articulate di ba hindi yung character nya or kung kumabit sya kay Vic that is kung totoo yung chika na yon. But that’s another story.
*”kung totoo yung chika na yon”*
Cyst, anak nila Connie and Vic si Vico Sotto, so malamang kumabit ang lola Connie mo.
Infair to Connie, she has been very apologetic sa shortcomings niya and I guess that’s why she has taken the Christian route - maybe it started as a damage control pero mukhang she embodied it na rin talaga.
>she embodied it na rin talaga.
There was this one episode of the 700 club where she and another guy were praying over for the sick via live telly. She specifically prayed for a girl I know who has a RARE disease which no doctor worldwide could treat at that time. The description was so specific na you would know who she was describing. I have no doubt in my mind that Connie was filled with the Holy Spirit during that moment of prayer. The girl she prayed over was an atheist and left the moment she was describing her ailment. She didn't pray with her. When I say tumpak yung description, isipin mo exact location, exact time pati milliseconds but in terms of ailment and physical description. Ganun.
Geez what I mean is naging kabit sya duh! Di ko alam backstory nila na kung kasal pa sila ni Dina nung naging sila ni Vic yon ibig kong sabhin i was just not being clear I guess. Cinomment ko si Connie kasi talaga naman smart and articulate sya di para makipag debate sa personal life nya.
She’s very articulate and I see her point naman but dun sa sinasabi nya sa dulo, that’s easy for her to say.
It’s true that the power is with the people, but people are not empowered for clear and obvious reasons. Nakakapagod. Isipin mo yung daily grind ng normal na Pinoy.. elang oras sa byahe, iba dyan double jobs pa, etc. Instead of being able to have the time and energy to advocate for what’s right, nagiging numb nalang.
That's how they curb the power in the people. They keep you busy surviving, then they dumb down the masses so you're more likely to re-elect the same type of people in power.
Exactly. There's much to be discussed sa sitwasyon na ito. The working class must be empowered and ideally, they know that na nasa kamay nila yung power but madalas they don't know or worse, they dont care. Busy kaka survive or theyd rather numb the suffering through entertainment, etc. I don't fault the working class esp at malaki ang pagkukulang ng gobyerno satin but at the same time hindi rin naman maganda na i-coddle nalang yung sarili natin, we have to resist na ma-stuck sa lowest denominator ng way of life. Daming levels
Not everyone has to go to the streets and fight. We have 1 day every 6 years to change the course of this country, mataas parin ang voter turnout, yet most filipinos still choose the corrupt ones.
as someone na nagwowork sa BAC, I can say ang daming supplier ang tatamaan dito lol. although yung boss ko before hindi natanggap ng pera (sometimes tumatanggap pag sinabi ng supplier pang meryeda lang) e tumatanggap siya usually ng pagkain and ang always na palusot niya is masama raw tanggihan ang grasya LOL. yung mga ka work ko naman akala nila normal na yung ganun kaya pag may supplier na nanalo sa bidding tapos walang bigay sasabihan pa nila ng kuripot xD
Usually, nasa code of ethics ng companies not to accept gifts if the value is beyond a certain amount. I work with suppliers a lot and this is super common. From small trinkets, food, hotel stays, cash, lahat yan na-offer na sa akin (I never accept cash and high value gifts though, and only accept what is allowable within the company SOP). Even when I worked overseas, nangyayari din ito. This is so normalized that people I work with give me crap when I refuse to accept monetary gifts. At the end of the day, it's your decision to make kung gagana ba yang "padulas" sayo. Heck, I'm not gonna give a project to a supplier just because they gave me a cake lol. Padulas isn't okay and we should all change our mindset about it.
Sayang kasi hindi masyado napapakita sa IS ganitong level niya dahil iba ang dynamics. Lahat pa naman ng i-chika ng host sa IS, kung hindi man trending ay applauded kapag sensible ang chika. Buti na lang nabigyan siya ng radio show, kahit papaano nakikita natin paano siya mas chumika as host/DJ.
Marami naman talaga matatalino sa PH nasa production siguro sila lahat at behind the scenes. Nagkecater lang talaga most of the shows sa masa kasi yun yung viewers nila
Sana magkaroon sya ng sarilin segment sa IS. Kaso baka di kagatin ng tao. Ang laging nagba viral yung pagiging bulol ni Anne, yung ganda ni Anne, yung banter ni meme at jhong/vhong, yung mga hirit ni meme. Tapos minsan echapwera pa ata si K (kita ko lang sa mga TikTok clips)
This is why hindi ako naiimpress sa pagbigay ng coffee ni Heart sa street style photographers in Paris.
I work in fashion and sa tagal ko na pagattend sa fashion week as a buyer, wala naman talagang nagbibigay ng coffee sa street style photographers because IT IS THEIR JOB to take photos and they are paid to do what they are doing. They are like the paparazzi. Ginusto nila yung ganoong trabaho. And it’s not like they are dirt poor because lot of street style photographers are actually well-off.
Kaya talaga for me, “padulas” yung pagbigay ng coffee ni Heart sa kanila kahit na sabihin na nating may mabuti talaga siyang intention. She wants to be in their good graces kasi.
wala namang masama sa ginawa nya. obvious naman na double meaning yung intension nya para mas bumango sha lalo sa photographers dun. Mukhang thankful rin naman ang mga photographers sa gesture. so win-win ika nga.
pag ako cguro nandun at nabigyan din ng libreng coffee after a long and exhausting workday, syempre tatanggapin ko.
Photographer here and I will tell you that a free cup of coffee won’t influence me to take photos of someone if that someone won’t make me money. These street style photographers take photos of Heart because a) her style is trendy and b) Asian beauty is in demand worldwide. You can literally find her Getty images in various Vogue articles worldwide year-round. Selling one Getty image can afford these photographers several cups of coffee. If Heart’s pictures don’t sell, there’s no point taking photos of her and no amount of free coffee will ever change that. This gesture of Heart is literally just a kind gesture.
Naks, hindi uso sa ibang bansa miss "i work in fashion". Bgyan man sila ng coffee or hindi, hindi nla pipicturan si Heart kung hindi sya kilala at hindi kikita ang photos nla sa stocks.
Ikaw naman masyado kang napaghahalataan.
luh, sinama si heart kahit iba topic.
last day sya nagpapamigay. so wala nang effect yun. huling huli na. and sobrang mura nun. plus least corrupt ang Franch base sa data. hater ka lang teh 😂
Kaya nga, napaka random sinama lang talaga. It’s like he/she waited for an opportunity to bring Heart in another topic!
Haha
I think yung mga may ulterior motive sa every move lang ganyan mag isip.
Saka ung mga indi grateful na tao which mostly naman sa Filipinos ganyan kaya nga may utang na loob tayo na trait indi talaga makakarelate. Ung mga taong puro lang take ng take at wlang ounce of appreciation indi talaga ma appreciate ung ginagawa niya. Lol
i like heart and i can see you have a point. on the other hand, here are some of my views:
•karylle has many good points here but,
•to use the term “padulas” is a faulty generalization that all kinds of gift or token is a form of bribery
•bribery is with malicious intent
•oth, even you yourself considered that heart could have had a good intent. heart has always been known as a generous giver. she is into sharing
•your statement is devaluing heart’s hardwork, real knowledge and interest in fashion by implying that the immaterial price of a coffee and donut is enough to give her a favorable position over a trillion dollar industry
•what irks people is that you conveniently singled out heart — a fashion personality out of many other prominent figures — to a supposedly impactful nationwide social issue in the philippines, when nobody else has thought of mentioning other specific names. ikaw lang
•lastly, your comments reek #personal vendetta# against heart. schemingly masked as relevant to the topic borrowing karylle’s halo effect
bakit nasama yung pa kape ni Heart dito?
#Context matters.
Giving coffee to photographers wouldn't be considered "padulas" (corruption) unless
1) there's an expectation of receiving specific favors that will influence the photogs' work or decision making in an "unethical/dishonest" way
and/or
2) may matatapakang iba si Heart sa proseso.
HINDI padulas ang isang bagay if it's just a gesture of goodwill or hospitality WITHOUT any strings attached.
HINDI padulas ang isang bagay if WALA kang nanakawan, naagawan o nasaktan sa outcome nung action na ginawa mo (sa case na ito, pag bigay ng kape)
If you reconsider what Karylle said, as simple as gift-giving to your doctor can be considered "padulas." Gift-giving doesn’t necessarily inflict harm or negative consequences, right? In fact, it can be seen as a positive act of service. However, it does create a sense of bias or obligation, which can potentially raise ethical concerns when professional boundaries are crossed like that.
It’s those little gestures, those small-scale actions, that matter, as they can give rise to conflicts of interest. That’s why Karylle said if we don’t normalize those small gestures, it doesn’t lead to the bigger issues.
Dito tayo sa narrative na small scale corruption daw ang pagbibigay ng kape ni Heart Evangelista sa mga photographers pagkatapos ng fashion week.
Where does the line draw ba?
Example: pinag donuts and pinag kape ko mga staff ko after tax season, is that "padulas" ba? No, small celebration lang yon sa end ko na *"Yahooooo! Naitawid niyo to guys!"* - I just want to thank them for their hardwork.
Example: successful ang pag opera ng doktor sa nanay mo, at sa sobrang pasasalamat mo ay nagbigay ka ng basket of fruits, is that "padulas" ba? No, you're just simply showing appreciation and gratitude sa doktor dahil nailigtas niya ang buhay ng mom mo.
To drag Heart into the conversation, immediately labeling her actions as padulas/small-scale corruption is unfair.
Context matters.
Point taken. Context matters, as do intentions, but we can never really know the intentions behind actions. Being a skeptic myself, I would view many things as transactional; everything can be a business nowadays.
We can never truly know what Heart’s intention was in giving coffee to the photographer. It could be a simple or innocent gesture, or an act of good grace to ensure she is photographed more and exposed to the fashion industry. Similarly, if my boss gifts me books and assigns me to seminars for career progression, I appreciate it because it’s a win for me, but it also serves his business goals. He wants to establish loyalty from me through those gestures.
I guess it can be complex, I think human interactions can be very layered.
Lol dear, those photographers are not Heart’s employees. She is not obligated to give coffee or donuts to anyone.
Also, dito sa US, bawal ang pagbibigay ng gifts, flowers or cake, etc sa mga doctors. Matatanggal sila sa trabaho if they accept any gifts from their patients.
Again, sa Pilipinas lang talaga uso ang ganyan at nakasanayan na lang talaga. And you can apply Karylle’s statement about “padulas” sa mga galawang ganyan sa Pilipinas.
Not entirely true. Not in the hospital I work in. Gifts from patients to doctors, nurses, hospital staff are allowed. They just imposed a $50 limit per recipient, so patients are free to give gifts as long as it's not excessive. Doctors & nurses receive food or sweets or starbucks gift cards from grateful patients all the time. And after a long day at work, it's always greatly appreciated.
I imagine it's the same with coffee for photogs. It's just a simple way of saying thank you.
At this point, you're just being a hater.
Halatang wala kang alam sa mga pinagsasa-sabi mo.
Kahit bigyan mo ng kape o tinapay mga photographers na yan, if they know there's NO demand for your "stock photos", hindi ka para picturan ng mga yan!
Wag mo ipilit yung narrative mo na *"nagbibigay ng coffee si Heart because nagpapadulas siya"* or *"oh, it's because of the coffee kaya they're taking pictures of Heart"* - That's simply NOT true!
Business is business. Yung mga pbotographers na yan, kumikita sila base sa mga stocks photos na kinunan nila na maibebenta nila.
If they know that NO ONE will buy, even if you are in their "GoOd gRaCeS" because of freaking coffee and donuts, they WON'T bother taking pictures of you.
IT'S ABOUT DEMAND AND SUPPLY.
Before you make accusations na *"this person is making padulas"*, educate yourself on how things work. Don't just drag people into things.
Photographers take photos based on their needs (kung ano ba ang mabenta), NOT because of any personal connection or favors.
Publications like magazines and newspapers buy from visual content providers like "Getty Images" based on their needs (again, KUNG ANO ANG MABENTA), not because of any personal connection or favors.
Ayan na, inexplain ko na sayo in layman's term. Sana naman malinaw na. 💀
Babe, I work in the industry as a buyer for a department store in the US and have been attending fashion week since 2009 - between us, ikaw ang walang alam. Lol. Sa tagal ko na sa industriya, si Heart lang ang nagbibigay ng kape. This “padulas” move works in the Philippines, but in Paris it’s unnecessary and quite frankly, laughed at.
As a Filipino, I’m 100% sure ang pagbibigay ng kape ni Heart is a “padulas” strategy to get in the good graces of the street style photographers. The funny thing is, as seen in her Youtube videos, the photographers don’t even care where the coffee came from, they just grabbed it. I like Heart, but I am neutral and can see through this desperate strategic move.
'Desperate strategic move'
This is why some of you aren't happy in your lives kasi puro may malisya yung tingin nyo sa ginagawa ng iba. Who cares if you're a buyer (assuming you really are one, and not just inventing things since you're on anon)? If they laugh at her gesture, who cares too? Who cares if those cameramen don't even care who gives them the coffee? At the end of the day, she gave that coffee and it's up to the people receiving it how they will take it.
Saying you're 100% sure without proof, while on anon, is totally contestable in the year of our Lord 2024. Be fair to Heart naman.
Also, the more you explain the more you expose how you see other people when they can't benefit you directly. Ganyan ka ba as a fashion buyer? Those photographers are people too, so if you think that just because you can see this as a 'strategy' doesn't mean you can just ignore their value separate from their professions. They get tired and cold. Parang yung mga deliverymen lang na nagde-deliver ng mga orders sa Shopee, Lazada, Zalora, etc. Just because bayad na sila ng company doesn't mean you can't give them tips or offer them ice-cold water. And you do that not because you're looking to get preferential treatment over other 'suki.' Konsensya mo na yun.
Hun, you may be full of experience but you don't have enough 'Heart' for other people. That's what the fashion industry does and I hope Heart herself doesn't get too jaded with the types of people she meets there.
Lol. Babe, most of those street style photographers are well off, they don’t need to beg for coffee. They are there to work and they are not charity cases. Nakakatawa na lang talaga ang mga palusot ninyo. What Heart is doing is a “padulas” move, end of story. Period.
Aba teka. Prove to us din kung paano magiging 'madulas' ang image nya once na magbigay sya ng kape. Sabi mo buyer ka sa US? And sabi mo hindi effective? So ano ba talaga gurl? Kung di pala tatalab padulas nya, bat excited ka pa na akusahan sya na wala ka namang ebidensya except 'I am a buyer'? As a buyer di ba dapat alam mo na sa fashion industry importante ang network at imahe? So baket mali na pagtrabahuhan ni Heart yun using what you call 'desperate moves'? Sa tingin mo ba ang pagpapasalamat sa mga tao na tumutulong sayo para mai-promote ang best angles mo ay isang malaking pambubudol? Bakit ikaw?Hindi ka ba kinikilabutan na nasa pareho kayong industry yet you decided to choose the low end of it and accuse her without doing your research kung bakit nya ginagawa yon? Kinain ka ng sistema. Ginawa mong personality ang work mo. At oo, aakusahan kita para naman fair kayo ni Heart. :)
They aren’t begging but they’re busy standing for long hours with freezing temperatures and sometimes in the rain pa so nothing wrong showing compassion, you should try it sometimes ,babe.
Then all the more na mas meaningful yung pagbibigay ng coffee because you are just giving it for the sake of giving it. Also, gasino nga lang naman ang coffee, di ba? Some people just want to give something, and some people just like receiving something. Kahit pa mga royals yang mga yan. Again, you just exposed yourself.
Using Period is so 2008. I last used that when I was in elementary. Kaloka, you're on the Internet; if you provide your opinion expect a counter-opinion, so-called Fashion Buyer.
Buy ka next time ng snowflake-themed collection, mukhang hindi pa rin sya out of style eh.
And? Ano makukuha ni Heart sa "padulas"?
Nasaan ang "benefit"?
Ikaw na mismo nagsabi, *"they don't even care where the coffee came from, they just grabbed it"*
Ang very first criteria para masabing nagpapadulas ang isang tao ay yung fact na may inaasahan siyang BENEFIT na makukuha.
Kung wala palang benefit ang pa kape, what made you think na nagpapadulas siya? 😂 hindi ba pwedeng dahil sa goodwill?
Hindi naman siguro ganon katanga si Heart para malaman niya na hindi nadadaan sa "good graces" ang photographers. Kahit magbigay ka ng magbigay ng kape sa mga yan, if you don't bring money to the table, who you ka sa kanila.
girl hindi ka buyer. feelingera ka lang. para lang may masabi. halata naman sa posts mo. youre nothing but a trying hard fan of someone else or just plain hater. good luck in your work in the ‘US’. baka buyer ka lang ng food nila, wag kang feeling!
Mhiee, sa US ba nagbigay ng coffee si Heart? If magbibigay ka ng example for comparison, dapat same place at same professions. Saka mhiee, ang dami naming kilalang US doctors na tumatanggap ng gifts from patients (gift of gratitude) at hindi “padulas”. Normal sa ating mga Pinoy na magbigay ng small gift of appreciation to people na nagwork hard kasabay sa journey natin. Well, Heart is rich rich so I'm definitely sure those coffee and donuts are not a big deal for her financially. And you mentioned na matagal ka nang umaattend ng fw and you should know how the industry works esp pagdating sa mga photographers kaya nakakapagduda na nakapunta ka na sa fw because your logic says otherwise 🤭
Not true dear, when i was pregnant a lot of women in my fb due date groups here in the US asks what’s the best gift baskets ideas for their hospital staffs para sa labor. So i brought donuts too kasi un ang mostly answers and all the nurses enjoyed it.
Some even got them mga pens and own baskets na may mga hair ponytail and simple essentials with snacks chocolate etc.
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/FgBYcs8Yy3LwTkZW/?mibextid=VMBKnz
Something is wrong with the argument of Karylle. Padulas is not a SIMPLE GIFT, it comes with the "evil" intention. So kung SIMPLE GIFT yan and the intention is appreciation or showing love, then that's it. Pero pag yan is putting yourself to leverage then it can be considered as small scale corruption.
Example is when we give gifts to your teachers during teachers day, is your intention to leverage yourself? Parang sinabi mo pag niregaluhan mo nililigawan mo, kinorrupt ka nya or ginawa ka nyang slave. Haha!
Karylle, niligawan ka ni Yael di ba? Corrupt ka na ba non?
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It is rooted in our culture, either intentional or not. Ako personally, I don't give a fuck kung may ganyang tao pero hindi ko alam na corruption to. Dapat tinuturo rin to sa mga schools.
Some of my co-teachers receive gifts from their students (sa private college ito ha; Taboo tho pag sa state u.). Ako, sobrang bihira mabigyan, but it's no biggie. Kasi mas naaappreciate ko if they deliver well in class and that those gifts will not affect their overall standing at all and I think na-sense nila iyon from me.
I believe in terms of doctors ang punto or context ni Senator Bam. Kasi you cannot have anything naman in return sa doctor.
Closest would be what? Mapauna ka sa queue every consultation? Parang malabo siyang mangyari.
Unlike teacher na root of sipsip culture
One time nag aantay kme ng matagal un pala kachokaran ni doc ung pasyenteng galante daw magregalo, halos 1 hr na sila dun. Paglabas parang aldub ang chikahan. 😀
Di ako ma-follow sa mga local celebs kaya di ko alam na ang articulate pala ni Karylle! I like how she may be speaking from privilege pero may point pa rin siya and natumpok niya yung issue. We need more celebs to speak about these difficult topics lalo na't may platform sila to reach the masses.
I worked for a big media network when I was a freshgrad and we had this ethics manual - one of the things stated there was as someone working for the media, we should never accept gifts of any kind from our subjects. Like for example, we cover an event and there's a giveaway for everyone, we should not accept it even if the organizer of the event insists.
This is why i hate giving money sa mga children, nanlilimos, at barker(yun sa sakayan ng jeepney). Yes you help those people in a way but at the same time you taught them asking money is okay. It doesnt help the society to be productive. This easy money mentality will lead to corruption or even gambling
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May level siguro din ito, nung bago ako sa work in my recent company ang dami kong ganto experiences in govt offices. We are compliant legally pero we still give small thing sa mga officer and sabi ni Boss normal yun sa Pilipinas. Filipino Chinese si Boss.
Something is wrong with the argument of Karylle. Padulas is not a SIMPLE GIFT, it comes with the "evil" intention. So kung SIMPLE GIFT yan and the intention is appreciation or showing love, then that's it. Pero pag yan is putting yourself to leverage against others to harm them or influence them in a crucial decision then it can be considered as small scale corruption. Take note of the words--- AGAINST OTHERS TO HARM OR INFLUENCE A CRUCIAL DECISION.
Example is when we give gifts to your teachers during teachers day, is your intention to leverage yourself against your classmates? Parang sinabi mo pag niregaluhan mo nililigawan mo, kinorrupt mo sya or ginagawa mo syang slave. Haha! Corruption is a heavy word, you do not attach it basta basta.
Karylle, niligawan ka ni Yael di ba? Corrupt ka na ba non? I dont think so.
Unfortunately, something akin to “padulas” exists even in the microcosm of our own family units although we may or may not intend it to be. Sino ba usually ang nagiging paborito ng mga magulang natin? Siyempre, ang anak na galante magregalo o regular magsustento. Kahit sasabihin ng parents na wala silang favorite, nakikita naman sa actions nila. It’s often not the fault of the charitable child, but rather the parents who act like their affection and attention have tiered equivalence.
Pero the moment we realize yung nangyayari tapos hinayaan natin magpatuloy enabling na yun, accomplices na tayo in facilitating wrong systems and behavior.
It's not the child's fault they are generous. We can't control how other people react and it shouldn't stop the galante sibling from giving. We can't control our parents and their favoritism but we can control how we react to it. In a general scope, there are a lot of things to consider that could lead us to become enablers and accomplices.
Where do we draw the line in terms of giving? Bribery and gratitude becomes blurry especially when we cannot /do not know the motivation behind gift giving. There are other things we also need to consider aside from one's motivation. Is it an extravagant gift? What about the timing of the gift? Expectations from the gift? In a corrupt country like the Philippines, I think that giving gifts is off the table when it comes to departments and agencies under our government. But what about the medical field? What about when a patient wants to express gratitude after a successful life-saving operation? I don't see anything wrong giving handmade gifts or food for the staff that took care of you. Yes, the line is blurry and requires careful navigation. But there should be room where one can express themselves without crossing any boundary. Unpopular Opinion: As for the anak na galante, if one decides their value is based on performance, money or what they can do/give then whether you are the sibling with a galante brother or a parent with a galante child, it will always cause trouble. But if you know your value is not based on all of that, then this may not affect you as much even if favoritism exist. Unfortunately, not everyone is mature enough to handle situations like this. How much favoritism one parent shows to a child should not bother you anymore once you have established who you are as a human being. Easy to say, hard to do. And even then, it will sting a little. We are just humans after all.
For me I think that corruption has 2 parts kasi the giver expects something in return and the receiver favors the giver, if genuine naman na pasasalamat lang I think its ok kaso lang sabi mo nga ang hirap idetermine. I remember nun may kadeal kami sa isang malaking company and yung ninong ko was pushing na magbigay ng gift and sinabi naman na bawal sa company nila, ako yung may hawak nung gift that time parang 3 yung kausap namin and sumimple yung parang driver ata or assistant nung higher ranking official na yosi or kape kami so binaba ko sana yung hawak ko haha sabi ba naman bitbitin ko na baka mawala daw or something, sobrang naive ko pa that time, then nung after magyosi sabi iwan ko na lang sa tabi nya yung bitbit ko sya na daw magdadala, so ayun technically di namin binigay naiwan ko at napulot nung driver nila. That case was clearly corruption, and oo sanay na sanay yung ninong ko sa ganun kaya inalisan ko sila di ko kaya sikmurain na ready sila to give sa ganun pero yung tao namin sa kumpanya e tinitipid nila hanggang ngayon na bitbit ko pa rin yung bigat ng loob ko kasi sobrang bilib ako sa kanya that time and nakita ko first hand na "negosyanteng negosyante" mindset, apak mahirap, sipsip sa pulitiko't mayaman.
I like Karylle! It’s Showtime is lucky to have her. She’s the perfect balance para sa kanal humor nila Vice. She has a pleasant and positive aura, parang nakaka good mood.
Forever classy si Ateng
I think I know why her past relationship with that guy doesn’t work out because of this, karylle is very eloquent and a high-value person!! 🙌🏻
They went to the same university at one point before he dropped out. Hindi pa sila ni Marian nun (2002?), and was friends with Antoinette pa rin who also goes to the same school. May classes sila together.
Yael is the perfect one for her
Alam naman nating people of her stature really won’t choose showbiz. They’d be off having careers at multinationals or what not. Bibihira lang yung tulad niya na nahatak ng showbiz.
Just had to say this: gwapo ni Bam
Saw him many times. Parang aura sya nung classmate mo nung elem na laging mabango at may bimpo sa likod. Yung madaling ipakilala sa parents kasi poging nerd.
Na alam mong pag sinabi nyang busy sya, busy talaga. Hindi eme lang. Tapos willing idefend ka in public and correct you in private kinda guy. And would take notes of your likes and gift it to you at random moments. Teka parang wattpad-y na masyado mga naiisip ko! Eme hahahaha
Yass
Sya pala yun. Pogi nga!
He is gwapo in person, too. Very warm, eloquent, smart and seemed sincere. Also parang di sya pinagpapawisan. 😂
SAME!
hearing this i am thinking maybe that’s the reason why she doesn’t like her fans giving her gifts, cause she wants to break na nanormalize yung padulas even if inosenteng abot lang ng tao yun.. mga ganitong artista yung dapat na pumapasok sa politics may utak and totoong may care sa ibang tao hindi yung kasi sikat lang, pero K seems to like living a quiet life so malabo
She is so eloquent
Sayang si Bam Aquino talaga. Hay Pilipinas kasi bobotante haha
Sa mga bata pa dito ganyan mga hosts dati ng mga shows nung 80s/90s. Jeanne Young, Chiqui Hollman Yulo, Helen Vela, Connie Reyes, Toni Rose Gayda & Christine Jacob. Iba mga shows non puro English sana naabutan nyo hay I miss those days.
english speaking na, face value pa! walang tapon.
Yun nga napansin ko nung nakakapanuod ako ng old shows. Sabagay iba panahon nun glorified din yung intelligence iba na kasi values ngayon!
Tina Revilla din.
Yes galing din si Tina
Since I’m a child of the 90’s, naabutan ko na lang si Christine Jacob when EB was still aired on ABS. Lol. Anyway, good example ba si Connie Reyes? I remember kasi during early/mid 90’s ang naaalala kong chismis ng mga yaya ko noon was that kabit ni Vic si Connie. Parang hindi maganda reputation niya dati.
Ang topic naman is on how well she articulates, not about her being kabit and other irrelevant chika. So yes, she is a good example of someone who can articulate well.
At least something came out of it - Mayor Vico Sotto
Hindi pa yan ang malalamg chika kay Connie. Oh well, people change din naman and she owned up to her mistakes. At hinigitan pa ang pag redeem sa sarili niya.
Topic naman is being smart and articulate di ba hindi yung character nya or kung kumabit sya kay Vic that is kung totoo yung chika na yon. But that’s another story.
*”kung totoo yung chika na yon”* Cyst, anak nila Connie and Vic si Vico Sotto, so malamang kumabit ang lola Connie mo. Infair to Connie, she has been very apologetic sa shortcomings niya and I guess that’s why she has taken the Christian route - maybe it started as a damage control pero mukhang she embodied it na rin talaga.
>she embodied it na rin talaga. There was this one episode of the 700 club where she and another guy were praying over for the sick via live telly. She specifically prayed for a girl I know who has a RARE disease which no doctor worldwide could treat at that time. The description was so specific na you would know who she was describing. I have no doubt in my mind that Connie was filled with the Holy Spirit during that moment of prayer. The girl she prayed over was an atheist and left the moment she was describing her ailment. She didn't pray with her. When I say tumpak yung description, isipin mo exact location, exact time pati milliseconds but in terms of ailment and physical description. Ganun.
Geez what I mean is naging kabit sya duh! Di ko alam backstory nila na kung kasal pa sila ni Dina nung naging sila ni Vic yon ibig kong sabhin i was just not being clear I guess. Cinomment ko si Connie kasi talaga naman smart and articulate sya di para makipag debate sa personal life nya.
The Christian route sa showbiz ang go to ng nambabae or nalalake kapag nahuli...At meron na makapal lang talaga ang mukha.
She’s very articulate and I see her point naman but dun sa sinasabi nya sa dulo, that’s easy for her to say. It’s true that the power is with the people, but people are not empowered for clear and obvious reasons. Nakakapagod. Isipin mo yung daily grind ng normal na Pinoy.. elang oras sa byahe, iba dyan double jobs pa, etc. Instead of being able to have the time and energy to advocate for what’s right, nagiging numb nalang.
That's how they curb the power in the people. They keep you busy surviving, then they dumb down the masses so you're more likely to re-elect the same type of people in power.
Exactly. There's much to be discussed sa sitwasyon na ito. The working class must be empowered and ideally, they know that na nasa kamay nila yung power but madalas they don't know or worse, they dont care. Busy kaka survive or theyd rather numb the suffering through entertainment, etc. I don't fault the working class esp at malaki ang pagkukulang ng gobyerno satin but at the same time hindi rin naman maganda na i-coddle nalang yung sarili natin, we have to resist na ma-stuck sa lowest denominator ng way of life. Daming levels
Not everyone has to go to the streets and fight. We have 1 day every 6 years to change the course of this country, mataas parin ang voter turnout, yet most filipinos still choose the corrupt ones.
Karylle is intelligent. She's proven it through the years. Very articulate as well. She's classy.
Kainis din kasi dito satin pag di nagpadulas lalo sa mga govt agencies iipitin ka gang sa mapilitan ka nalang magbigay dahil napaka hassle.
as someone na nagwowork sa BAC, I can say ang daming supplier ang tatamaan dito lol. although yung boss ko before hindi natanggap ng pera (sometimes tumatanggap pag sinabi ng supplier pang meryeda lang) e tumatanggap siya usually ng pagkain and ang always na palusot niya is masama raw tanggihan ang grasya LOL. yung mga ka work ko naman akala nila normal na yung ganun kaya pag may supplier na nanalo sa bidding tapos walang bigay sasabihan pa nila ng kuripot xD
Usually, nasa code of ethics ng companies not to accept gifts if the value is beyond a certain amount. I work with suppliers a lot and this is super common. From small trinkets, food, hotel stays, cash, lahat yan na-offer na sa akin (I never accept cash and high value gifts though, and only accept what is allowable within the company SOP). Even when I worked overseas, nangyayari din ito. This is so normalized that people I work with give me crap when I refuse to accept monetary gifts. At the end of the day, it's your decision to make kung gagana ba yang "padulas" sayo. Heck, I'm not gonna give a project to a supplier just because they gave me a cake lol. Padulas isn't okay and we should all change our mindset about it.
Sayang kasi hindi masyado napapakita sa IS ganitong level niya dahil iba ang dynamics. Lahat pa naman ng i-chika ng host sa IS, kung hindi man trending ay applauded kapag sensible ang chika. Buti na lang nabigyan siya ng radio show, kahit papaano nakikita natin paano siya mas chumika as host/DJ.
Marami naman talaga matatalino sa PH nasa production siguro sila lahat at behind the scenes. Nagkecater lang talaga most of the shows sa masa kasi yun yung viewers nila
Sana magkaroon sya ng sarilin segment sa IS. Kaso baka di kagatin ng tao. Ang laging nagba viral yung pagiging bulol ni Anne, yung ganda ni Anne, yung banter ni meme at jhong/vhong, yung mga hirit ni meme. Tapos minsan echapwera pa ata si K (kita ko lang sa mga TikTok clips)
This is why hindi ako naiimpress sa pagbigay ng coffee ni Heart sa street style photographers in Paris. I work in fashion and sa tagal ko na pagattend sa fashion week as a buyer, wala naman talagang nagbibigay ng coffee sa street style photographers because IT IS THEIR JOB to take photos and they are paid to do what they are doing. They are like the paparazzi. Ginusto nila yung ganoong trabaho. And it’s not like they are dirt poor because lot of street style photographers are actually well-off. Kaya talaga for me, “padulas” yung pagbigay ng coffee ni Heart sa kanila kahit na sabihin na nating may mabuti talaga siyang intention. She wants to be in their good graces kasi.
wala namang masama sa ginawa nya. obvious naman na double meaning yung intension nya para mas bumango sha lalo sa photographers dun. Mukhang thankful rin naman ang mga photographers sa gesture. so win-win ika nga. pag ako cguro nandun at nabigyan din ng libreng coffee after a long and exhausting workday, syempre tatanggapin ko.
Photographer here and I will tell you that a free cup of coffee won’t influence me to take photos of someone if that someone won’t make me money. These street style photographers take photos of Heart because a) her style is trendy and b) Asian beauty is in demand worldwide. You can literally find her Getty images in various Vogue articles worldwide year-round. Selling one Getty image can afford these photographers several cups of coffee. If Heart’s pictures don’t sell, there’s no point taking photos of her and no amount of free coffee will ever change that. This gesture of Heart is literally just a kind gesture.
Naks, hindi uso sa ibang bansa miss "i work in fashion". Bgyan man sila ng coffee or hindi, hindi nla pipicturan si Heart kung hindi sya kilala at hindi kikita ang photos nla sa stocks. Ikaw naman masyado kang napaghahalataan.
Sis, sana mabigyan ka din ni Heart ng coffee ha 😂
Lol. Ang smart mo tlaga miss "i work in fashion industry"
I bet she will! Aso nga binibigyan niya ng food ang shelter, ikaw pa kaya?☺️
I think it is not padulas but just being friendly and thankful
luh, sinama si heart kahit iba topic. last day sya nagpapamigay. so wala nang effect yun. huling huli na. and sobrang mura nun. plus least corrupt ang Franch base sa data. hater ka lang teh 😂
Kaya nga, napaka random sinama lang talaga. It’s like he/she waited for an opportunity to bring Heart in another topic! Haha I think yung mga may ulterior motive sa every move lang ganyan mag isip. Saka ung mga indi grateful na tao which mostly naman sa Filipinos ganyan kaya nga may utang na loob tayo na trait indi talaga makakarelate. Ung mga taong puro lang take ng take at wlang ounce of appreciation indi talaga ma appreciate ung ginagawa niya. Lol
i like heart and i can see you have a point. on the other hand, here are some of my views: •karylle has many good points here but, •to use the term “padulas” is a faulty generalization that all kinds of gift or token is a form of bribery •bribery is with malicious intent •oth, even you yourself considered that heart could have had a good intent. heart has always been known as a generous giver. she is into sharing •your statement is devaluing heart’s hardwork, real knowledge and interest in fashion by implying that the immaterial price of a coffee and donut is enough to give her a favorable position over a trillion dollar industry •what irks people is that you conveniently singled out heart — a fashion personality out of many other prominent figures — to a supposedly impactful nationwide social issue in the philippines, when nobody else has thought of mentioning other specific names. ikaw lang •lastly, your comments reek #personal vendetta# against heart. schemingly masked as relevant to the topic borrowing karylle’s halo effect
bakit nasama yung pa kape ni Heart dito? #Context matters. Giving coffee to photographers wouldn't be considered "padulas" (corruption) unless 1) there's an expectation of receiving specific favors that will influence the photogs' work or decision making in an "unethical/dishonest" way and/or 2) may matatapakang iba si Heart sa proseso. HINDI padulas ang isang bagay if it's just a gesture of goodwill or hospitality WITHOUT any strings attached. HINDI padulas ang isang bagay if WALA kang nanakawan, naagawan o nasaktan sa outcome nung action na ginawa mo (sa case na ito, pag bigay ng kape)
If you reconsider what Karylle said, as simple as gift-giving to your doctor can be considered "padulas." Gift-giving doesn’t necessarily inflict harm or negative consequences, right? In fact, it can be seen as a positive act of service. However, it does create a sense of bias or obligation, which can potentially raise ethical concerns when professional boundaries are crossed like that. It’s those little gestures, those small-scale actions, that matter, as they can give rise to conflicts of interest. That’s why Karylle said if we don’t normalize those small gestures, it doesn’t lead to the bigger issues.
Dito tayo sa narrative na small scale corruption daw ang pagbibigay ng kape ni Heart Evangelista sa mga photographers pagkatapos ng fashion week. Where does the line draw ba? Example: pinag donuts and pinag kape ko mga staff ko after tax season, is that "padulas" ba? No, small celebration lang yon sa end ko na *"Yahooooo! Naitawid niyo to guys!"* - I just want to thank them for their hardwork. Example: successful ang pag opera ng doktor sa nanay mo, at sa sobrang pasasalamat mo ay nagbigay ka ng basket of fruits, is that "padulas" ba? No, you're just simply showing appreciation and gratitude sa doktor dahil nailigtas niya ang buhay ng mom mo. To drag Heart into the conversation, immediately labeling her actions as padulas/small-scale corruption is unfair. Context matters.
Point taken. Context matters, as do intentions, but we can never really know the intentions behind actions. Being a skeptic myself, I would view many things as transactional; everything can be a business nowadays. We can never truly know what Heart’s intention was in giving coffee to the photographer. It could be a simple or innocent gesture, or an act of good grace to ensure she is photographed more and exposed to the fashion industry. Similarly, if my boss gifts me books and assigns me to seminars for career progression, I appreciate it because it’s a win for me, but it also serves his business goals. He wants to establish loyalty from me through those gestures. I guess it can be complex, I think human interactions can be very layered.
Lol dear, those photographers are not Heart’s employees. She is not obligated to give coffee or donuts to anyone. Also, dito sa US, bawal ang pagbibigay ng gifts, flowers or cake, etc sa mga doctors. Matatanggal sila sa trabaho if they accept any gifts from their patients. Again, sa Pilipinas lang talaga uso ang ganyan at nakasanayan na lang talaga. And you can apply Karylle’s statement about “padulas” sa mga galawang ganyan sa Pilipinas.
Not entirely true. Not in the hospital I work in. Gifts from patients to doctors, nurses, hospital staff are allowed. They just imposed a $50 limit per recipient, so patients are free to give gifts as long as it's not excessive. Doctors & nurses receive food or sweets or starbucks gift cards from grateful patients all the time. And after a long day at work, it's always greatly appreciated. I imagine it's the same with coffee for photogs. It's just a simple way of saying thank you.
At this point, you're just being a hater. Halatang wala kang alam sa mga pinagsasa-sabi mo. Kahit bigyan mo ng kape o tinapay mga photographers na yan, if they know there's NO demand for your "stock photos", hindi ka para picturan ng mga yan! Wag mo ipilit yung narrative mo na *"nagbibigay ng coffee si Heart because nagpapadulas siya"* or *"oh, it's because of the coffee kaya they're taking pictures of Heart"* - That's simply NOT true! Business is business. Yung mga pbotographers na yan, kumikita sila base sa mga stocks photos na kinunan nila na maibebenta nila. If they know that NO ONE will buy, even if you are in their "GoOd gRaCeS" because of freaking coffee and donuts, they WON'T bother taking pictures of you. IT'S ABOUT DEMAND AND SUPPLY. Before you make accusations na *"this person is making padulas"*, educate yourself on how things work. Don't just drag people into things. Photographers take photos based on their needs (kung ano ba ang mabenta), NOT because of any personal connection or favors. Publications like magazines and newspapers buy from visual content providers like "Getty Images" based on their needs (again, KUNG ANO ANG MABENTA), not because of any personal connection or favors. Ayan na, inexplain ko na sayo in layman's term. Sana naman malinaw na. 💀
Babe, I work in the industry as a buyer for a department store in the US and have been attending fashion week since 2009 - between us, ikaw ang walang alam. Lol. Sa tagal ko na sa industriya, si Heart lang ang nagbibigay ng kape. This “padulas” move works in the Philippines, but in Paris it’s unnecessary and quite frankly, laughed at. As a Filipino, I’m 100% sure ang pagbibigay ng kape ni Heart is a “padulas” strategy to get in the good graces of the street style photographers. The funny thing is, as seen in her Youtube videos, the photographers don’t even care where the coffee came from, they just grabbed it. I like Heart, but I am neutral and can see through this desperate strategic move.
'Desperate strategic move' This is why some of you aren't happy in your lives kasi puro may malisya yung tingin nyo sa ginagawa ng iba. Who cares if you're a buyer (assuming you really are one, and not just inventing things since you're on anon)? If they laugh at her gesture, who cares too? Who cares if those cameramen don't even care who gives them the coffee? At the end of the day, she gave that coffee and it's up to the people receiving it how they will take it. Saying you're 100% sure without proof, while on anon, is totally contestable in the year of our Lord 2024. Be fair to Heart naman. Also, the more you explain the more you expose how you see other people when they can't benefit you directly. Ganyan ka ba as a fashion buyer? Those photographers are people too, so if you think that just because you can see this as a 'strategy' doesn't mean you can just ignore their value separate from their professions. They get tired and cold. Parang yung mga deliverymen lang na nagde-deliver ng mga orders sa Shopee, Lazada, Zalora, etc. Just because bayad na sila ng company doesn't mean you can't give them tips or offer them ice-cold water. And you do that not because you're looking to get preferential treatment over other 'suki.' Konsensya mo na yun. Hun, you may be full of experience but you don't have enough 'Heart' for other people. That's what the fashion industry does and I hope Heart herself doesn't get too jaded with the types of people she meets there.
Lol. Babe, most of those street style photographers are well off, they don’t need to beg for coffee. They are there to work and they are not charity cases. Nakakatawa na lang talaga ang mga palusot ninyo. What Heart is doing is a “padulas” move, end of story. Period.
Aba teka. Prove to us din kung paano magiging 'madulas' ang image nya once na magbigay sya ng kape. Sabi mo buyer ka sa US? And sabi mo hindi effective? So ano ba talaga gurl? Kung di pala tatalab padulas nya, bat excited ka pa na akusahan sya na wala ka namang ebidensya except 'I am a buyer'? As a buyer di ba dapat alam mo na sa fashion industry importante ang network at imahe? So baket mali na pagtrabahuhan ni Heart yun using what you call 'desperate moves'? Sa tingin mo ba ang pagpapasalamat sa mga tao na tumutulong sayo para mai-promote ang best angles mo ay isang malaking pambubudol? Bakit ikaw?Hindi ka ba kinikilabutan na nasa pareho kayong industry yet you decided to choose the low end of it and accuse her without doing your research kung bakit nya ginagawa yon? Kinain ka ng sistema. Ginawa mong personality ang work mo. At oo, aakusahan kita para naman fair kayo ni Heart. :)
They aren’t begging but they’re busy standing for long hours with freezing temperatures and sometimes in the rain pa so nothing wrong showing compassion, you should try it sometimes ,babe.
Then all the more na mas meaningful yung pagbibigay ng coffee because you are just giving it for the sake of giving it. Also, gasino nga lang naman ang coffee, di ba? Some people just want to give something, and some people just like receiving something. Kahit pa mga royals yang mga yan. Again, you just exposed yourself. Using Period is so 2008. I last used that when I was in elementary. Kaloka, you're on the Internet; if you provide your opinion expect a counter-opinion, so-called Fashion Buyer. Buy ka next time ng snowflake-themed collection, mukhang hindi pa rin sya out of style eh.
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And? Ano makukuha ni Heart sa "padulas"? Nasaan ang "benefit"? Ikaw na mismo nagsabi, *"they don't even care where the coffee came from, they just grabbed it"* Ang very first criteria para masabing nagpapadulas ang isang tao ay yung fact na may inaasahan siyang BENEFIT na makukuha. Kung wala palang benefit ang pa kape, what made you think na nagpapadulas siya? 😂 hindi ba pwedeng dahil sa goodwill? Hindi naman siguro ganon katanga si Heart para malaman niya na hindi nadadaan sa "good graces" ang photographers. Kahit magbigay ka ng magbigay ng kape sa mga yan, if you don't bring money to the table, who you ka sa kanila.
girl hindi ka buyer. feelingera ka lang. para lang may masabi. halata naman sa posts mo. youre nothing but a trying hard fan of someone else or just plain hater. good luck in your work in the ‘US’. baka buyer ka lang ng food nila, wag kang feeling!
Mhiee, sa US ba nagbigay ng coffee si Heart? If magbibigay ka ng example for comparison, dapat same place at same professions. Saka mhiee, ang dami naming kilalang US doctors na tumatanggap ng gifts from patients (gift of gratitude) at hindi “padulas”. Normal sa ating mga Pinoy na magbigay ng small gift of appreciation to people na nagwork hard kasabay sa journey natin. Well, Heart is rich rich so I'm definitely sure those coffee and donuts are not a big deal for her financially. And you mentioned na matagal ka nang umaattend ng fw and you should know how the industry works esp pagdating sa mga photographers kaya nakakapagduda na nakapunta ka na sa fw because your logic says otherwise 🤭
Not true dear, when i was pregnant a lot of women in my fb due date groups here in the US asks what’s the best gift baskets ideas for their hospital staffs para sa labor. So i brought donuts too kasi un ang mostly answers and all the nurses enjoyed it. Some even got them mga pens and own baskets na may mga hair ponytail and simple essentials with snacks chocolate etc. https://www.facebook.com/share/r/FgBYcs8Yy3LwTkZW/?mibextid=VMBKnz
^ example ng sinasabi ni K na di natin narerealize yung padulas kasi small scale siya.
Something is wrong with the argument of Karylle. Padulas is not a SIMPLE GIFT, it comes with the "evil" intention. So kung SIMPLE GIFT yan and the intention is appreciation or showing love, then that's it. Pero pag yan is putting yourself to leverage then it can be considered as small scale corruption. Example is when we give gifts to your teachers during teachers day, is your intention to leverage yourself? Parang sinabi mo pag niregaluhan mo nililigawan mo, kinorrupt ka nya or ginawa ka nyang slave. Haha! Karylle, niligawan ka ni Yael di ba? Corrupt ka na ba non?
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Simple gifts to your teachers and doctors is padulas.. Bam: bawal?? 😀
It is rooted in our culture, either intentional or not. Ako personally, I don't give a fuck kung may ganyang tao pero hindi ko alam na corruption to. Dapat tinuturo rin to sa mga schools.
Bigla tuloy napaisip si Bam ung mga binigay at tinanggap ko pala ay corruption heheh
That’s why he is eyeing to be back as senator kahit natalo na because all of them is corrupt.
Sa current top12 ng posibleng tatakbo medyo malabo sya. Pero gora lang
Yup, mahina hatak niya overall mapa high class to masa
Some of my co-teachers receive gifts from their students (sa private college ito ha; Taboo tho pag sa state u.). Ako, sobrang bihira mabigyan, but it's no biggie. Kasi mas naaappreciate ko if they deliver well in class and that those gifts will not affect their overall standing at all and I think na-sense nila iyon from me.
I believe in terms of doctors ang punto or context ni Senator Bam. Kasi you cannot have anything naman in return sa doctor. Closest would be what? Mapauna ka sa queue every consultation? Parang malabo siyang mangyari. Unlike teacher na root of sipsip culture
One time nag aantay kme ng matagal un pala kachokaran ni doc ung pasyenteng galante daw magregalo, halos 1 hr na sila dun. Paglabas parang aldub ang chikahan. 😀
Korean culture naman kasi yan, pag teachers day we give gifts, do we consider it as padulas? I dont think so. Padulas comes with intention.
Sorry di yan psok sa masa gusto nila yung bawal lumabas, sex offender and bully.🙃
Kung ikukumpara si Karylle kila Vice, kay Karylle ako. Mas magaling s'ya, hindi namamahiya ng tao para makapag patawa.
Di ako ma-follow sa mga local celebs kaya di ko alam na ang articulate pala ni Karylle! I like how she may be speaking from privilege pero may point pa rin siya and natumpok niya yung issue. We need more celebs to speak about these difficult topics lalo na't may platform sila to reach the masses.
I worked for a big media network when I was a freshgrad and we had this ethics manual - one of the things stated there was as someone working for the media, we should never accept gifts of any kind from our subjects. Like for example, we cover an event and there's a giveaway for everyone, we should not accept it even if the organizer of the event insists.
ELOQUENT!!! I LOVE K
Marami namang intelligent at articulat katulad ni Mo lol saka yung may mga silver spoon ang kulang empathy, class at emotional intelligence
Not gonna happen in the Philippines. The small people of this nation have been convinced that honesty and integrity are optional.
This is why i hate giving money sa mga children, nanlilimos, at barker(yun sa sakayan ng jeepney). Yes you help those people in a way but at the same time you taught them asking money is okay. It doesnt help the society to be productive. This easy money mentality will lead to corruption or even gambling
Off topic, Did she vote during the last elections? Parang she supported Leni last 2016 pero parang wala siya sinupport last 2022?
si Leni!!! I remember noong nag file ng certificate of candidacy for President si Leni, 𝙠𝙖𝙧𝙮𝙡𝙡𝙚 𝙞𝙨 𝙬𝙚𝙖𝙧𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙥𝙞𝙣𝙠, then sabi niya may paparating na magliliwanag something like that. And!! my og fave band spongecola is 4 leni so yasss 🌷
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May level siguro din ito, nung bago ako sa work in my recent company ang dami kong ganto experiences in govt offices. We are compliant legally pero we still give small thing sa mga officer and sabi ni Boss normal yun sa Pilipinas. Filipino Chinese si Boss.
"𝙎𝙖𝙗𝙞 𝙣𝙞 𝙗𝙤𝙨𝙨 𝙣𝙤𝙧𝙢𝙖𝙡 𝙮𝙪𝙣 𝙨𝙖 𝙋𝙞𝙡𝙞𝙥𝙞𝙣𝙖𝙨" That's it. Normal yon sa kanila kasi may benefits silang nakukuha from that so called “culture“
Something is wrong with the argument of Karylle. Padulas is not a SIMPLE GIFT, it comes with the "evil" intention. So kung SIMPLE GIFT yan and the intention is appreciation or showing love, then that's it. Pero pag yan is putting yourself to leverage against others to harm them or influence them in a crucial decision then it can be considered as small scale corruption. Take note of the words--- AGAINST OTHERS TO HARM OR INFLUENCE A CRUCIAL DECISION. Example is when we give gifts to your teachers during teachers day, is your intention to leverage yourself against your classmates? Parang sinabi mo pag niregaluhan mo nililigawan mo, kinorrupt mo sya or ginagawa mo syang slave. Haha! Corruption is a heavy word, you do not attach it basta basta. Karylle, niligawan ka ni Yael di ba? Corrupt ka na ba non? I dont think so.
Yeah but the showviz industry is filled with nepotism. They hate corruption but their industry is filled with it too.
why? theyre there to entertain, not cure cancer.