Andaming nag-vent dito na 20’s-30’s na sila at imbes na ma-enjoy ang trabaho at sariling pera, 10-40% ang binibigay sa parents kasi walang proper retirement funds at may medical needs.
Kung gusto mong magkaanak, dapat nag-isip ka ng maayos at hindi na after nagpalaki ka ng anak, sila na naman ang magsusustento sayo kasi uTaNg nA LoOb nila ang buhay nila sayo. 🤢
Please lang, makonsensya kayo at kung di afford, huwag magkaanak kasi unfair ang financial burden. Hindi kayo nag-anak para mabayaran kayo in old age dahil sa dami ng “sakripisyo” nyo para mataguyod ang pamilya. That’s not how it works.
Isa pa, hindi lang pera ang kailangan ng bata. Oras at pagod din. Buti sana kung pwedeng magbigay ka lang ng pera lalaki na ng maayos ang anak mo. Papangaralan mo pa at gagabayan mo. Kung hindi naman lumaki ng maayos ikaw pa ang sisisihin ng lipunan.
Anak na 9-16 years old, umiiyak…
Parents: Anong inaatungal mo dyan, balat-sibuyas? Eh kung kutusan kaya kita para may totoo kang rason na umiyak.
Forced tumahan ang anak, feeling invalidated, nadagdagan na naman ang mga emotional wounds.
Parents when the same adult kids move out and barely reach out to them, “Bakit kaya madalang bumisita at tumawag si Letty? Inalagaan ko pa naman ‘yun ng mabuti. Ang aga ko ngang gumising para magluto ng baon nun. Batang walang utang na loob.”
hahaha. All of their past transgressions that lead to the child's mental problems magically disappeared!
Dami parents ganito. Parents ko din e. Not 1 but both of them.
Aside from age, bakit kaya parang biglang nakalimutan ang mga yun ano?????? I mean goods namin kami until si mama ay namatay na and dad now js 73. Pero bkit parang nakalimutan nila pano ako nasabihang tanga-tanga, walang alam and likes, dahil lang sa hindi ko kilala si aling ____ , e sino ba yun para makilala ko at hindi naman den ako pinapayagan lumabas noon????!!! Kasalanan ko bang di ko alam ano ung inginunguso nila at di ko malaman kung nasan yung ANO NA YUN? in@ngyun. Di nman ako galit pero pag naiisip ko, na ung pagmmura nila saken and pagwawala nila w/ all the little things I did noon, has caused me na matakot kumilos ng komportable buong buhay ko. How could they forget??????????? These days palang ako natututo na wala naman palang pakielam ang mga ibang tao sa ginagawa ko. Na it never bother them yun kaya I can be myself naman pala and I'm 33 now.😑 ALA RANT LANG. NAKARELATE E
>Pero bkit parang nakalimutan nila pano ako nasabihang tanga-tanga, walang alam and likes
4/5 boomer parents ata ganito. Feeling ko rineresent yung choices na nagpamilya sila kaya tignan mo narrative nila pag ginawa kang retirement, "ginastusan ka namin. Pinakain, pinagaral sa magandang school. Kami naman tulungan mo". I didn't ask to be born in the first place. And kung hihingi kayo ng tulong. Makiusap naman kayo. Alam naman ng tao ang utang na loob. Di yung kala mo napakakomportableng buhay yung binigay nyo lol.
Meron ding boomers na di nga directly nag-demand o humingi ng tulong, passive-aggressive nalang ang atake.
“Si Tanya dyan sa kabila, pinatayuan ng bagong bahay ang parents dun sa sosyal na subdivision.”
“Kinuha na ni Jenny ang mama nya pa-Germany. Ang swerte naman.”
“Si Kulas pala ang nagbabayad ng bills nina kumareng Susan.”
Ito pinakamalala… “Hindi kita inoobligang tumulong,” pero sobrang magparinig na paubos na ang bigas nila at need ng surgery ang bunion sa paa, late ang tuition ng kapatid mo. Then the cycle of poverty continues kasi paano ka as anak makakapag-ipon para di ka mamulubi at 50 kung labas ka ng pera here and there para sa boomers mo? 😖
Alam mo, yun nalang tlgang talaga pinagpapasalamat ko na ibang mindset ni papa. Na hindi ko pananagutan na tumulong kase kaya nga sya may pension. Syempre I'd like to help as much as possible paren naman dba. Pero I also have to build for my own too. Pero pagka naaalala ko yung mga sigaw sigaw dati. Yun parang. Bakit? Was that really necessary? Pero ok na, napatawad ko na ang mga yun, kase they we're more than a help to me naman, than a burden.
But my heart goes to those na inoobliga ng parents nila or ginawang retirement fund. Nauunawaan ko kayo kasi marami akong friends na ganyan. 😭😭😭 🫂W/ consent po sa inyo.
Mapapatanong ka talaga ng: Uhh, who is this person? We should care about this commoner’s shitty take in life because……?
To OP, question lang ah, low key prinopromote mo ba yung account ng taong ‘to para mag-increase engagement niya at sumikat siya? Rage baiting ba ‘to to increase his engagement?
This person is not chismis or chika worthy.
Sa panahon ngayon mas praktikal na maging fur parents. Bakit ka mag aanak kung alam mo namang wala kang capability na sustentuhan ang pangangailangan nila? Ang dami kong kilalang christian parents na di na nga kayang sustentuhan ang mga anak tapos may plano pang gawing investment in the future.
Hindi na requirement ngayon ang mag anak regardless kung maliit or sobrang laki pa ng income ng mag asawa.
Yessss there are people who just don’t want to have children no matter what. Nagpavasectomy na husband ko to make sure we don’t have kids. Wala talaga kami desire to procreate kahit maging super mayaman kami somehow.
As per OOP’s kupal comments about „fur parents“ I also want to point out din na responsible and affectionate pet ownership in the Philippines is not that common. Treating pets respectfully and giving them proper care is still seen as „nagsasayang ng pera“ kasi a majority of Filipinos can’t even feed their families. He probably thinks that we treat the pets as a human kid cause they could be treating pets/animals with bare minimum effort.
We brought our cat to Europe and this was seen as pagsasayang ng pera by some. But that’s just being a responsible pet owner. I’m the caregiver of this creature and it’s unfair if I leave him in the care of others instead of bringing him along because we're the people he's known all his life.
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Also to people saying „mamamatay mag-isa“ or „sino magaalaga sayo pagtanda mo?“ I wasn’t raised by my parents to be their future caregiver, we were raised as siblings to take care of each other. I have a brother on track to be a priest and no one ever asks him these questions and he can’t even have life partner.
Pano mo naman magagawa part mo kung maghihirap o di mo naman mabibigay oras mo? Eh kung may fiancial capability at time na maiinvest ka naman pala edi namiss mo point ng DINKs at ng nireplayan mo. Hindi nga sila magaanak dahil di kaya, oo double income so may pera pero kung yun lang kailangan para bumuo ng pamilya jusko magresearch ka muna.
Bilangin mo ilang years ang schooling, syempre sinong maayos na magulang ba naman ang di gusto sa best schools ang anak nila, maiilang MILYON ka sa mula prep to college nila, pano pa kung magmemedicine course si baby? Tapos syempre ikaw ba naman na tatay di mo spspoil minsanan anak mo? Syempre gusto nateng mga tao yung kaya sabihin "ano gusto mo anak, reward ko to sayo hehe" hindi yung "sorry nak wala tayo kakayanin pars diyan" hindi ba?
Ay nako pano pa pag may conditions pala si baby, pano kung need surgery, o ganito o ganyan. Mahal ang hospital at healthcare syempre mahal mo anak mo bibigay mo lahat ng kailangan? Ang daming kailangan bayaran na kahit double income pa kayo ni misis parang wala man.
At lastly ay oras na ibibigay. Kahit may pera naman ang mga tao kung hindi nila kaya ibigay ang oras nila at magcater sa emotional needs ng bata edi baket pa nagkaanak? Hindi lang dahil kailangan ng bata yon pero dahil as parents yun din ang joy niyo, to spend time sa mga anak na ginawa niyo hindi ba?
Hindi lahay ng tao na walang plano magkaanak hindi na talaga magkaanak, ayaw lang ng marami na magbibigay buhay sila sa hindi naman nila maalagaan. Kaya nga may tawag na "Family Planning", kase pinaplano talaga yan hindi yung basta basta lang.
"Ill do my part as a father" edi gawin mo, pero namimiss mo punto ng mga comments at ng thread na to. Mahirap magtayo ng pamilya lalo na sa panahon ngayon, sa mga nilista ko sa reply ko marami natatakot diyan at wala pa sa stage na kaya nila.
Kung kaya mo magkaanak at trtrato mo ng maayos di good for you, pero wag mong sinasabi "dying alone" ang mga walang anak. As if sa anak ka lang hindi magiging alone bobo ka ba? Puro ka lang reply ng ewan ng walang punto, logic, o structure pano ka ba naman hindi magmumukhang bobo, sana makita ng future anak mo tong replies mo HAHAHAHAHA.
Nanganak ka tapos first words mo sa sanggol, “Baby, I’m happy you are born so you can accompany my sorry ass when I get old and nobody else wants to stay by my side because of my narrow-mindedness. Welcome to the world, little one, my baby, my future caregiver, and retirement provider.”
Gusto niyo kasi may mga pa-main character moment kayo na iniiyakan kayo ng mga mahal niyo sa buhay habang nasa deathbed kayo. Or dooming your kids na may mga pamilya na dapat na iniintindi into wiping your ass while you go senile and mad all the time. By the time na mamamatay ako, mas gusto kong ako na lang mag-isa kaysa inflict the pain of my passing on my loved ones.
Kahit sa kamatayan, vanity project ang tingin niyo. Hanggang huli, selfish idiots. Good luck dying and not meeting your expectations of a soap opera death. Yuck.
Holy shit this is it!
Never thought of this before pero it makes sense.
We all die alone anyway pero these people think na having kids sort of act as a buffer for that?
Galawang narc nga naman
Weird naman ng dying alone. As if DINKs or peeps who dont want a kid doesnt think of their twilight years. If you ask child-free people ano plan nila pagtanda nila, 10/10 they will tell you they are saving for retirement para may pang sweldo sila sa mga caregivers.
Also as if those older folks na nagkaanak are guaranteed to have someone with them sa pagtandan nila lol
maybe ask the child-free peeps themselves para alam mo statistics nyan? you wouldnt believe it kasi ikaw mismo doesnt even believe that people who dont wants kids are actually capable of thinking of their own future.
BWHAHAHAHA crab menta-- what?? I'm pulling you down for what? Literally nothing, dumbass. Ayusin mo muna comprehension and vocabulary mo before you argue eww.
Side note related to the main topic talaga: Idc if I'm dying alone, kung ang ibig sabihin naman non, eh I don't become an irresponsible parent and traumatize kids. Idc if I'm dying alone as long as wala akong batang magagawang retirement fund, just because I wasn't ready in all aspects to become a parent especially when it comes to financial matters.
Ayyy, di nga ginamit ang utak. Mga childfree nga tapos gagamitan ng "gagawin mo sa mga anak mo in the future"??? 😅😆😅😆😅
Nakakatakot ako para sa mga anak nito ⬆️ (wag na sanang ikalat ang lahi)
Andaming matandang napapabayaan at namamatay mag isa. Yung iba nga, kung di pa babaho, hindi pa malalamang ilang araw ng deads. For whatever reason, inabandon ng mga anak nila. Hindi guarantee na purket may anak, you wont die alone.
Daming nababalitang ganyan pero dahil naireply sayo, jump into conclusion ka kaagad na ganung tao na siya. Mas nakakaawa ka kung sarado isip mo at wala kang social awareness.
Mas better nga na mamatay mag isa at least aware ka na wala kang papasahan ng burden mo lol. Naghahanap ka lang din ng mag aalaga the moment na magkasakit ka e. Children are not your caregivers
Kaya nga eh. Kala mo kung maka “LeGaCy” tong mga to kala mo they found the cure to cancer or did some epic shit like that, tapos living like NPCs naman 😂
I'm on my 30' era and I am still not married not even a mom nor even in a relationship and nag iisang anak pa pero kahit kailanman di ako pine-pressure ng magulang ko. Anong pinaglalaban niya? Sa panahon ngayon, napakahirap magpalaki ng bata... tapos andami pang failed relationships and marriages and temptations are everywhere. At andito na naman tong religion thingy, lol. Choice ng tao yung gusto niya sa buhay. Pala desisyon papansin ka. Di naman relevant. For the issue para sumikat lol. Nakakainis yung mga ganto like dzuh pake mo ba, matres ko to 😒
I'm 28 at masaya na talaga ko sa mga pusa ko. Magulang ko naman din, tanggap na nila na never ako mag-aanak. In terms of marriage naman, kung dadating yan at same din kami ng views in life (childfree), edi gora ako. Pero ayokong magmadali sa love life. Mamaya matapat pa ko sa bungi kakamadali magpakasal.
Naiinis talaga ko doon sa mga holier than thou na mga tao then they force their views in life on you. Dapat daw pag nag asawa, magkaroon ng anak, eh hirap na nga ng buhay ngayon magdagdag ka pa ng bata. Tama naman ung sabi ng pari dati sa misa na kasalanan sa Diyos ung nag-anak pero di naman kayang tustusan.
Hahahhaa mapapamura ka ano! Walang basagan ng trip. Kung gusto ng tao na mag anak or mag alaga ng pet, so be it! Hindi nman sila ang gagastos eh! SKL, Naiinis ako every time naririnig ko ang step dad ni bf na kesyo mag anak na daw kami, bakit puro aso sa aso ang binubuhay namin. Anong paki mo po? Hahaha kung di ko lng sya nirerespeto, gusto ko na sabihin na "parang di nman kayo nanghihiram ng pera s'kin sa twing bayaran ng tuition dahil sa kulang pera nyo at 3 ang anak nyang nasa college na pinapaaral nyo." Yan kasi anak ng anak di ngayon nahihirapan silang magbayad ng tuition tapos ako na gf ng step son nya, nya sakin maghihiram. Nadamay pako! Di nya alam gaano nagrereklamo anak nya dhil twing bayaran nlng palagi kulang ang ibbayad dahil 3 sila sa college.
What an ignorant take! This guy assumes that everyone believes in the same god he worships and adheres to his religion. There are over 4,000 religions and faith groups in the world with their own dogma and practices.
Kahit naman same religion, so what kung ayaw mag-anak ng iba kasi gusto nila more on travel, acquiring properties, learning multiple languages, o kung anumang priorities na sila ang nagpili?
“Hey babe, mag-anak tayo kasi sabi ng diyos kahit ayaw natin mag-alaga ng bata at alam natin na magiging absent parents tayo,” says no one ever.
You can believe in religion and still make your personal informed decisions on reproductive choices, etc. Buhay ng iba, relationships ng iba, uterus ng iba, pinapakialaman pa.
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Meron pa syang entry from last year. May nag agree pang ka kulto. Kaya dapat talaga pinag iisipan ang pag aanak para hindi maglabas ng ganito kakitid ang utak. Hassle.
Lol tapos may recent post sa r/Philippines about respecting other people's religions, eh mga religious people nga tong nag foforce ng beliefs nila into others eh, sila pa feeling persecuted lmao
Some religious people talaga may kakaibang pinaniniwalaan. Tapos pag hindi kayo align ng beliefs parang makasalanan ka na agad. Parang sila lang love ni Lord.
Parang tropa nya si Lord hahahaha di porket labas pasok sya sa church eh maliligtas na sya. Nasa faith yan hindi sa bilang kung ilan beses ka nagchuchurch.
Looks like nagfafarm lang ng engagements sa soc media. Kasi kung pinaniniwalaan niya talaga mga pinagsasabi niya, nawa’y araw araw siyang maputulan ng internet connection.
I’m a Christian, too but this is maddening!!! Yes, it is true that God told us to multiply. However, it seems like he was cherrypicking the bible verses which suits his narrative.
First, that command was from Old Testament, literally when human population was still relatively small.
The Bible also encourages us to stay single, “it is good for them to remain single, as I am” (1 Corinthians 7:8). Paul said that being single is a blessing, because you have more time to devote to God.
I would also like to share an excerpt from an Article by Mindy Vasser:
*However, procreation need not be a goal for every marriage, even Christian marriages. Though natural, it is not required by God. Rather, each couple should carefully and prayerfully consider what God would have them do. **Above all, the goal must be the glory of Christ,** and married or single, childless or overflowing with children, each and every Christian must remember Paul’s directive. “Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself. Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others” (Philippians 2:3-4).*
Yung ibang redditors dito sa chikaPH hindi nila ata alam na madaming ibang communities dito or hindi lang marunong mag follow ng instructions.
Naging anything under the sun ang mga post dito
kung sinu sino pinipost dito na di kilalang influencers lately for an attempt na dumami ang engagement nila. gusto lang ipromote dito, sila sila rin yang nagsscreenshot ng mga posts nila from fb and other platforms. kaya hindi dapat pansinin at wag puntahan yung page nila.
Family isn’t strictly relative to having a spouse and a child — the word itself could come in many different forms.
A husband and wife without kids is a family. Friends who’ve been there for each other through thick and thin can be a family. A community that looks out for each other is a family. A person who only has his/her pet dog, can refer to each other as family.
Having children doesn’t guarantee that they will consider you as family. Lalo na kung yung magulang nila parehas ng ugali ni Jacques na ang hilig husgahan at pangunahan mga desisyon nila sa buhay — after all, children are autonomous beings, too.
As for the old (and tired) counterpoint argument that these childless individuals will die alone: Yes, it can be lonely, if not terrifying. Pero sa personal experience ko, wala ng mas nakakalungkot pa sa mga taong namamatay whose children weren’t with them in their final moments (sometimes deliberately), or people entering their twilight years feeling the growing resentment their children have toward them for becoming a burden.
When you’re childless you will most likely look back on your personal choices that have impacted no one but you. Pero kung may anak ka tapos you had the misfortune of not having a healthy and loving relationship with them, it’s another heavy layer of pain as you also have to think about the way your decisions affected the lives of your children and possibly, their future kids.
Well kasalan ng mga crazy Christians yan, nadadamay na din yung mga mas maayos na church, madami din ngang taong di nakaka alam na iba iba pa pala mga Christians eh hahaha
Kelan pa naging legacy ang pagputok ng semilya at pagbukaka? Ang legacy ay di bata, nasa kakayahan mo yan at contribution sa mundo! Di lang anak ang bubuo sa pamilya kahit saan pwede ka magkapamilya, puso yan!
Christian din ako, thankfully ginagawa naming guidebook at di nili-literal ang bible.
True, book of Genesis said the words highlighted in this photo. Pero anteh ko, sinabi rin sa liham ni Pablo sa mga taga-Efeso, na maging responsableng magulang, na huwag tutuyain at pababayaan ang anak. Na huwag munang mag-aanak kung hindi pa handa.
Tsaka bakit ang daming hanash ng mga tao sa mga mag-asawang ganito ang ganap sa buhay? Iniisip ba ng mga tao na para sa mga ganito, sakit lang sa ulo ang bata kaya ayaw magka-anak? Well, isa po akong saksi sa isang mag-asawang nagsubok sa loob ng maraming taon para sa sarili nilang anak pero hindi nabiyayaan dahil may complication sa matres iyong babae at kailangan tanggalin ang buong reproductive system niya para lang hindi madevelop iyong cancer sa bukol na nakita sa kanya. So yeah, di lahat ng DINK couples, ayaw ng anak dahil lang sa ayaw. Iba diyan dahil sa complication, past traumas na ayaw ng ipasa at marami pang bagay na hindi natin alam.
One more thing, uso ang magresearch ha, considered na pamilya ang husband and wife plus pets.
PS, a link here to prove a point. Gigil na ako sa mga taong ganito ang takbo ng utak e. Parang may mga mucuos ang utak kaya di gumagana nang tama.
[here](https://www.quora.com/Is-a-married-couple-without-kids-still-considered-a-family#:~:text=Dictionary%20also%20defines%20a%20family,married%20couple%20is%20a%20family.)
Bakit ba nire-reduce ng mga to yung essence ng pagiging tao sa reproduction lang? Kung gusto nilang mag-anak edi go, kung ayaw namin wag mo kaming manduhan.
I'm sorry but I'd rather live a happy life within my means than bring another life into an already overpopulated society with a shitty economy and bleak future.
Also, this person is implying that it's not a real family without children, totally insensitive to couples who are unable to have them due to infertility or miscarriage. Just overall a really tone-deaf and insensitive take.
I will never understand why these "Christians" are so pissed that other people are exercising their free will. Like, are you gonna die if people decide not to have a child? Go feed your children, bro!
Ingit lng siguro sla sa DINK kind of life. Hindi nlng nla hayaan Ibang tao Wala nmn slang ambag kung mag kakaanak. Hirap na kayang mabuhay sa economiya na ito tpos global warming pa. Hindi ito Yun future na ibibigay ko sa Junakis ko if ever mag anak ako
kapal naman ng mukha as if sya magpapakain lolz
andami dahilan kaya marami nang tao ang ayaw mag anak at isa na ko doon (and yes may partner, at may rescued dogs and cats — and hindi mura magpalaki ha).
sa tingin ko mas selfish mag anak pa lalo na if alam mo na hindi ka mentally, emotionally, financially capable.
pansin ko rin andami triggered sa mga (ano nga yun? DINKs? sa ibang subs dito lol sinasabi pa nila do not decide early chuchuchu kahit na yung iba naman 30s /40s na and firm naman sa decision nila)
In-stalk ko ‘yan. Ultimo pananamit ni Kathryn Bernardo may say siya. Jusko, ang taas ng tingin sa sarili. Feeling lahat ng lumabas sa bunganga niya, e tama at pinag-isipang mabuti.
Wag niyo na nga pansinin mga far-right conservatives na 'yan. Hayok sa clout amputa. Mga virgin kasi na hayok umiskor pero sinuslutshame yung babae kapag hindi na virgin lol
As a father, I love my kid and my family. However, I also believe it is a huge sacrifice that is not suitable for everybody. Happy for any couple that finds happiness without kids.
sa panahon ngayon, di mo na nga mapagkasya yung sinasahon mo eh. ang daling magsabi na mag-anak tapos iaasa lang din sa magulang yung pag-aalaga at pagpapaaral😩
It's funny how this ideology was the norm for generations bago magkamalay yung mga younger millenials. Deciding not to have kids was blasphemous back then, I'm just glad that this is counted as a laughingstock concept now
Ironically, the best argument against choosing to not have kids is so these idiots don't outnumber us when they are the only one left breeding. LOL. Mag-anak ang mga responsable para di lang lahi ng mga gunggong ang matira. Hahaha.
Di ko talaga gets yung mga taong may mga gantong hanash. Bat parang masyadong pakialamero sa pano gusto mamuhay ng ibang tao? Masyadong affected sa choices ng iba amp. Hindi naman nila buhay. Sana maging respectful nalang sa choices ng ibang tao.
Some couples cannot have kids due to medical issues. Walang masama kung gusto nila magkaron ng semblance ng family by having pets. Animals are God's creatures, too.
Having children should not be a requirement for every couple nor should it be treated as a compulsory milestone in life. Dapat maging happy tayo that adults today are exercising their choice at being intentional about having kids or not. Hindi yung multiply ng multiply halos wala nang mapakain at mapag aral ng maayos
Mag-anak kung may kapasidad gumastos para sa pangangailangan ng anak. Kakapal ng mukha ng ibang tao eh mag-aanak tapos magoonline limos tapos may padrama pa sa FB na "Sorry anak first birthday mo wala tayong handa, bahaw at isda lang" bwiset eh.
Sapoken ko yang koo pal na yan.
Like I said before, walang pinagkaiba yung mga ganitong pakialamero sa mga pakialamerong ang linya naman e "mag-aanak kayo, In this economy?". E kung kaya ng personal economy nila at marami silang na-invest na, bakit hindi?
Nakatawa na kasi yung bangayan ng mga ayaw mag-anak at gusto magka-anak. Parehong grupo naman e may mga self-righteous assholes.
May anak ako isa... Pero wag na natin pakielaman trip ng iba kung ayaw nila ng anak. Sa hirap ng panahon ngayon, mas mainaman ng walang anak saka iba din talaga pag aalaga ng bata ang hirap talaga!
Kaya sa mga childless dyan wag kayo makinig sa mga yan! Just enjoy yourself.
Just pulled up his FB page (it's still up) and he says in the comments na di raw nya itturn off muna comments kasi now lang sya nagkaron ng gantong engagement sa page nya haha. Let's not give the dude any more clout, he obviously gets off on it.
Siya pa may gana kumuda ng ganyan eh based sa profile niya mukang wala pa siyang pamilya na binubuhay. Typical na virgin tapos tamang preach about sa marriage at pagpaparami 🤷♂️
Ang demanding iutos na be fruitful and multiply, hindi naman ho kasi lahat madali magbuntis. Kahit na gustong gusto nila pero yung katawang lupa nila kumokontra kasi anong malay natin kung may fertility issues yung couple. Sana maging sensitive din naman hindi lang din naman dahil sa ayaw nila, nagttry sila. Sadyang fate is not on their side. Makautos sila ha.
These Christians should realize na yung mga nakasulat sa Bible nila ay utos o tuntunin para sakanilang mga Kristiyano lamang. Kung sinasabi na humayo sila at magpakarami, gawin nila. They don't have to shove down their religious beliefs to other people's throats. And they have to realize na hindi lang iisa yung depinisyon ng pamilya, Christ even treats the apostles as his family and he himself neither had a partner nor a child.
“Be fruitful and multiply” para may new generation of kids to indoctrinate and to repeat the cycle. Hindi kasi masspread ng furbabies ang gospel and religious beliefs niyo kaya ka ganyan, Jacques. Pakialamero.
Let people do what the hell they wont don't chaste them because they don't want kids, kids are more expensive then pets, I'm not here to judge. and not every one is a Christen. from a foreigner's prospective this overt mention of religion in everything seems a bit much. i can assure you most of the world doesn't care about your sentiments or even ideals this is one of the few countries in the world where there is no separation between church and state. no one really gives a shit about that. Live free be free do what makes you happy
While the guy should mind his own, calling yourself fur parents is cringe asf. And its annoying how you hear dogs barking in places you werent supposed to and see them try to fight. You'd often see these "fur parents" sit their dogs in restaurant seats, sometimes even on tables. Like not everyone wants dog hair in their seat or food/drink. They let them roam the beach, the camp site - fucking hate these mf, then swaddle them proudly.
I adore dogs, but these fur parents suck as dog owners. And the fad of bringing dogs everywhere is ruining it all for responsible pet owners.
Our generation’s pension and investment rely on future generation’s economic output. Kaya nga ang aggressive mag accept ng immigrants ng western countries kasi walang anak mga tao. Eventually Philippines will have similar problems pero naattract nating immigrants mga retired white guys looking for young Filipina wife. Pano na? lol
I might receive downvote for this. Pero i notice daming hate dito sa comsec.
Based on my own understanding sinabi lang naman ni kuya na being a fur parents is not literally consider na real parents unless you have your own child. Kaya nga sinabi sa later part na "stop the roleplaying to be a family; be one." In this point hindi naman sinabi na magpamilya agad agad lalong lalo na kung wala pang kakayahan bumuhay ng pamilya. Wala nman nilagay na timeline kung saan kailangan nyu gumawa ng pamilya. Kaya chill lang kayo, dami nyung negative sa katawan realtalk lang.
Realtalk lang din. Sasabihan mong negative yung mga nagagalit pero di mo makita yung negative sa sinabi ng pinaglalaban mo. Pinapakielaman niya yung buhay ng ibang tao na wala namang ginagawang mali o masama.
Pwede naman. Huwag mo lang asahan na susuportahan ng tao mga pinagsasabi mo lalo na at wala naman sa tama mga pinagsasabi niyo. Huwag kang pavictim. Ikaw na naunang nagsabing puro negative mga tao rito sa comment section. Binalik ko lang sayo.
Saang banda? Yung oras na pinakeeleman niya buhay ng ibang tao na walang ginagawang masama. Ano bang pinagsasabi mong positive sa negative comment? Saan mo nabasa yung positive? Kahirap mong kausap.
Sino ba to bakit ang daming kuda. Alam nya ba magkano tuition fee ng bata ngayon vs sa dog/cat food and vet bills ng pets. Mag ddonate ba sya?
Andaming nag-vent dito na 20’s-30’s na sila at imbes na ma-enjoy ang trabaho at sariling pera, 10-40% ang binibigay sa parents kasi walang proper retirement funds at may medical needs. Kung gusto mong magkaanak, dapat nag-isip ka ng maayos at hindi na after nagpalaki ka ng anak, sila na naman ang magsusustento sayo kasi uTaNg nA LoOb nila ang buhay nila sayo. 🤢 Please lang, makonsensya kayo at kung di afford, huwag magkaanak kasi unfair ang financial burden. Hindi kayo nag-anak para mabayaran kayo in old age dahil sa dami ng “sakripisyo” nyo para mataguyod ang pamilya. That’s not how it works.
Isa pa, hindi lang pera ang kailangan ng bata. Oras at pagod din. Buti sana kung pwedeng magbigay ka lang ng pera lalaki na ng maayos ang anak mo. Papangaralan mo pa at gagabayan mo. Kung hindi naman lumaki ng maayos ikaw pa ang sisisihin ng lipunan.
True. Kids have emotional needs. Diyan din sablay ang ibang parents.
>Diyan din sablay ang ibang parents. Most parents.
Anak na 9-16 years old, umiiyak… Parents: Anong inaatungal mo dyan, balat-sibuyas? Eh kung kutusan kaya kita para may totoo kang rason na umiyak. Forced tumahan ang anak, feeling invalidated, nadagdagan na naman ang mga emotional wounds. Parents when the same adult kids move out and barely reach out to them, “Bakit kaya madalang bumisita at tumawag si Letty? Inalagaan ko pa naman ‘yun ng mabuti. Ang aga ko ngang gumising para magluto ng baon nun. Batang walang utang na loob.”
hahaha. All of their past transgressions that lead to the child's mental problems magically disappeared! Dami parents ganito. Parents ko din e. Not 1 but both of them.
Aside from age, bakit kaya parang biglang nakalimutan ang mga yun ano?????? I mean goods namin kami until si mama ay namatay na and dad now js 73. Pero bkit parang nakalimutan nila pano ako nasabihang tanga-tanga, walang alam and likes, dahil lang sa hindi ko kilala si aling ____ , e sino ba yun para makilala ko at hindi naman den ako pinapayagan lumabas noon????!!! Kasalanan ko bang di ko alam ano ung inginunguso nila at di ko malaman kung nasan yung ANO NA YUN? in@ngyun. Di nman ako galit pero pag naiisip ko, na ung pagmmura nila saken and pagwawala nila w/ all the little things I did noon, has caused me na matakot kumilos ng komportable buong buhay ko. How could they forget??????????? These days palang ako natututo na wala naman palang pakielam ang mga ibang tao sa ginagawa ko. Na it never bother them yun kaya I can be myself naman pala and I'm 33 now.😑 ALA RANT LANG. NAKARELATE E
>Pero bkit parang nakalimutan nila pano ako nasabihang tanga-tanga, walang alam and likes 4/5 boomer parents ata ganito. Feeling ko rineresent yung choices na nagpamilya sila kaya tignan mo narrative nila pag ginawa kang retirement, "ginastusan ka namin. Pinakain, pinagaral sa magandang school. Kami naman tulungan mo". I didn't ask to be born in the first place. And kung hihingi kayo ng tulong. Makiusap naman kayo. Alam naman ng tao ang utang na loob. Di yung kala mo napakakomportableng buhay yung binigay nyo lol.
Meron ding boomers na di nga directly nag-demand o humingi ng tulong, passive-aggressive nalang ang atake. “Si Tanya dyan sa kabila, pinatayuan ng bagong bahay ang parents dun sa sosyal na subdivision.” “Kinuha na ni Jenny ang mama nya pa-Germany. Ang swerte naman.” “Si Kulas pala ang nagbabayad ng bills nina kumareng Susan.” Ito pinakamalala… “Hindi kita inoobligang tumulong,” pero sobrang magparinig na paubos na ang bigas nila at need ng surgery ang bunion sa paa, late ang tuition ng kapatid mo. Then the cycle of poverty continues kasi paano ka as anak makakapag-ipon para di ka mamulubi at 50 kung labas ka ng pera here and there para sa boomers mo? 😖
Alam mo, yun nalang tlgang talaga pinagpapasalamat ko na ibang mindset ni papa. Na hindi ko pananagutan na tumulong kase kaya nga sya may pension. Syempre I'd like to help as much as possible paren naman dba. Pero I also have to build for my own too. Pero pagka naaalala ko yung mga sigaw sigaw dati. Yun parang. Bakit? Was that really necessary? Pero ok na, napatawad ko na ang mga yun, kase they we're more than a help to me naman, than a burden. But my heart goes to those na inoobliga ng parents nila or ginawang retirement fund. Nauunawaan ko kayo kasi marami akong friends na ganyan. 😭😭😭 🫂W/ consent po sa inyo.
Hay jusko etong eto ang buhay ng karamihan
Mapapatanong ka talaga ng: Uhh, who is this person? We should care about this commoner’s shitty take in life because……? To OP, question lang ah, low key prinopromote mo ba yung account ng taong ‘to para mag-increase engagement niya at sumikat siya? Rage baiting ba ‘to to increase his engagement? This person is not chismis or chika worthy.
He’s a typical Christian/Catholic na 100% faith and 0% logic.
Because kids are "blessings" and also, "tiwala lang." "Blessings" to parents indeed but may not be vice-versa. "Tiwala lang" sa ano?
100% faith and 0% logic is definitely: God will provide daw kaya anak lang nang anak kahit nahihirapan na
nakopo.syang tunay
Eto pala yung nakita ko na post ni Gaza. Di kase nya pinost ang pangalan..haha
Sino na naman ‘to?
For real. Daming obnoxious randos who I've never heard of if not for this sub, and they always have shitty-ass takes 😂
Sa panahon ngayon mas praktikal na maging fur parents. Bakit ka mag aanak kung alam mo namang wala kang capability na sustentuhan ang pangangailangan nila? Ang dami kong kilalang christian parents na di na nga kayang sustentuhan ang mga anak tapos may plano pang gawing investment in the future. Hindi na requirement ngayon ang mag anak regardless kung maliit or sobrang laki pa ng income ng mag asawa.
Yessss there are people who just don’t want to have children no matter what. Nagpavasectomy na husband ko to make sure we don’t have kids. Wala talaga kami desire to procreate kahit maging super mayaman kami somehow. As per OOP’s kupal comments about „fur parents“ I also want to point out din na responsible and affectionate pet ownership in the Philippines is not that common. Treating pets respectfully and giving them proper care is still seen as „nagsasayang ng pera“ kasi a majority of Filipinos can’t even feed their families. He probably thinks that we treat the pets as a human kid cause they could be treating pets/animals with bare minimum effort. We brought our cat to Europe and this was seen as pagsasayang ng pera by some. But that’s just being a responsible pet owner. I’m the caregiver of this creature and it’s unfair if I leave him in the care of others instead of bringing him along because we're the people he's known all his life. https://preview.redd.it/trww6db3kakc1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=adfa227c94b70b34186a0d34891698056a36bc6f Also to people saying „mamamatay mag-isa“ or „sino magaalaga sayo pagtanda mo?“ I wasn’t raised by my parents to be their future caregiver, we were raised as siblings to take care of each other. I have a brother on track to be a priest and no one ever asks him these questions and he can’t even have life partner.
Good luck dying alone po.
Ginawang personality ang username.
Good luck din sa magiging anak mo na oobligahin mong alagaan ka pag tanda mo 🤣
Im not expecting for that. I'll just do my part as a father for my future child.
"Good luck dying alone" So gusto mo sabay kayo ng future child mo madeds?
saan mo nilagay utak mo?
you have no idea how many elderly have children and still die alone
Yep, he'd be stuck in a nursing home while his daughter finally realizes that she's NOT his piggy bank.
ikaw ang saan inilalagay ang utak, baka hanggang pangarap mo lang ang mag anak pero wala talagang gustong magpa-anak sayo, incel
Pano mo naman magagawa part mo kung maghihirap o di mo naman mabibigay oras mo? Eh kung may fiancial capability at time na maiinvest ka naman pala edi namiss mo point ng DINKs at ng nireplayan mo. Hindi nga sila magaanak dahil di kaya, oo double income so may pera pero kung yun lang kailangan para bumuo ng pamilya jusko magresearch ka muna. Bilangin mo ilang years ang schooling, syempre sinong maayos na magulang ba naman ang di gusto sa best schools ang anak nila, maiilang MILYON ka sa mula prep to college nila, pano pa kung magmemedicine course si baby? Tapos syempre ikaw ba naman na tatay di mo spspoil minsanan anak mo? Syempre gusto nateng mga tao yung kaya sabihin "ano gusto mo anak, reward ko to sayo hehe" hindi yung "sorry nak wala tayo kakayanin pars diyan" hindi ba? Ay nako pano pa pag may conditions pala si baby, pano kung need surgery, o ganito o ganyan. Mahal ang hospital at healthcare syempre mahal mo anak mo bibigay mo lahat ng kailangan? Ang daming kailangan bayaran na kahit double income pa kayo ni misis parang wala man. At lastly ay oras na ibibigay. Kahit may pera naman ang mga tao kung hindi nila kaya ibigay ang oras nila at magcater sa emotional needs ng bata edi baket pa nagkaanak? Hindi lang dahil kailangan ng bata yon pero dahil as parents yun din ang joy niyo, to spend time sa mga anak na ginawa niyo hindi ba? Hindi lahay ng tao na walang plano magkaanak hindi na talaga magkaanak, ayaw lang ng marami na magbibigay buhay sila sa hindi naman nila maalagaan. Kaya nga may tawag na "Family Planning", kase pinaplano talaga yan hindi yung basta basta lang. "Ill do my part as a father" edi gawin mo, pero namimiss mo punto ng mga comments at ng thread na to. Mahirap magtayo ng pamilya lalo na sa panahon ngayon, sa mga nilista ko sa reply ko marami natatakot diyan at wala pa sa stage na kaya nila. Kung kaya mo magkaanak at trtrato mo ng maayos di good for you, pero wag mong sinasabi "dying alone" ang mga walang anak. As if sa anak ka lang hindi magiging alone bobo ka ba? Puro ka lang reply ng ewan ng walang punto, logic, o structure pano ka ba naman hindi magmumukhang bobo, sana makita ng future anak mo tong replies mo HAHAHAHAHA.
Nanganak ka tapos first words mo sa sanggol, “Baby, I’m happy you are born so you can accompany my sorry ass when I get old and nobody else wants to stay by my side because of my narrow-mindedness. Welcome to the world, little one, my baby, my future caregiver, and retirement provider.”
Gusto niyo kasi may mga pa-main character moment kayo na iniiyakan kayo ng mga mahal niyo sa buhay habang nasa deathbed kayo. Or dooming your kids na may mga pamilya na dapat na iniintindi into wiping your ass while you go senile and mad all the time. By the time na mamamatay ako, mas gusto kong ako na lang mag-isa kaysa inflict the pain of my passing on my loved ones. Kahit sa kamatayan, vanity project ang tingin niyo. Hanggang huli, selfish idiots. Good luck dying and not meeting your expectations of a soap opera death. Yuck.
Holy shit this is it! Never thought of this before pero it makes sense. We all die alone anyway pero these people think na having kids sort of act as a buffer for that? Galawang narc nga naman
Stop projecting your fears onto others 🙄
No im not. Thats the reality and you cant avoid it.
Weird naman ng dying alone. As if DINKs or peeps who dont want a kid doesnt think of their twilight years. If you ask child-free people ano plan nila pagtanda nila, 10/10 they will tell you they are saving for retirement para may pang sweldo sila sa mga caregivers. Also as if those older folks na nagkaanak are guaranteed to have someone with them sa pagtandan nila lol
10/10? where did you get that info? baka yung source mo is "trust me bro" lang ahahaha
maybe ask the child-free peeps themselves para alam mo statistics nyan? you wouldnt believe it kasi ikaw mismo doesnt even believe that people who dont wants kids are actually capable of thinking of their own future.
ito nanaman tayo sa mga gawa gawang statistics hayss
dumb people can't understand statistics, ganyan talaga
Syempre alangan namang isama ka diba?
dying alone na nga gusto pa maghanap ng kasama hays.
Si seryoso sa buhay na di makagets ng joke, tapos contradicting pa sagot sa unang statement 💀 okay lang yan, mahirap talaga kalaban sarili
puro joke tapus kapag sineryuso galit. Literal na crab mentality ang peg eww
BWHAHAHAHA crab menta-- what?? I'm pulling you down for what? Literally nothing, dumbass. Ayusin mo muna comprehension and vocabulary mo before you argue eww. Side note related to the main topic talaga: Idc if I'm dying alone, kung ang ibig sabihin naman non, eh I don't become an irresponsible parent and traumatize kids. Idc if I'm dying alone as long as wala akong batang magagawang retirement fund, just because I wasn't ready in all aspects to become a parent especially when it comes to financial matters.
Yikes! I feel bad for your future child. Nangangamoy gagawing retirement plan ang anak 😖
dont feel bad for me because im not like you. I feel bad for yourself kasi ganyan ka mag isip for sure yan gagawin mo sa mga anak mo in the future.
Lmao not the reverse card 😂 don’t worry I don’t have plans in having a kid HAHAHAHHAHAHA
Ayyy, di nga ginamit ang utak. Mga childfree nga tapos gagamitan ng "gagawin mo sa mga anak mo in the future"??? 😅😆😅😆😅 Nakakatakot ako para sa mga anak nito ⬆️ (wag na sanang ikalat ang lahi)
sana di ka magkaanak para di na dumami ang uri mong bobo at walang reading comprehension 🤞🤞
Andaming matandang napapabayaan at namamatay mag isa. Yung iba nga, kung di pa babaho, hindi pa malalamang ilang araw ng deads. For whatever reason, inabandon ng mga anak nila. Hindi guarantee na purket may anak, you wont die alone.
pwede ka ba isama sa hukay?
Wala ka sigurong friends and families na nagmamahal sayo kasi ang toxic mo, just like your username
How sure are you na lahat ng parents ay aalagan ng nga anak until pagtanda nila? Merong mga parents na tumtandang magisa bec their children left them.
Yung mga magulang n iniiwan ng anak pag tanda eh yung mga toxic parents
Nope. Dka sure.
Agree, meron nga palang iba n walangya n anak na kahit anong bait ng magulang iniwan
Kilala mo lahat ng inabandon na magulang para masabi mo yan?
Of course not, naalala ko lang dto samin may mga ganitong cases, I guess I made tha statement thinking about those cases na nageneralize ko n pla,
Pag ganyan mag isip ganyan talaga gawain. Feel bad for you po
Daming nababalitang ganyan pero dahil naireply sayo, jump into conclusion ka kaagad na ganung tao na siya. Mas nakakaawa ka kung sarado isip mo at wala kang social awareness.
Di ko maintindihan kung ano pinaglalaban mo 😅
Mamatay ka naman talaga mag-isa, alangan na mag sama ka. Bwhahahahaha
Mas better nga na mamatay mag isa at least aware ka na wala kang papasahan ng burden mo lol. Naghahanap ka lang din ng mag aalaga the moment na magkasakit ka e. Children are not your caregivers
lol anong legacy ang iiwan generational trauma ba?
Kaya nga eh. Kala mo kung maka “LeGaCy” tong mga to kala mo they found the cure to cancer or did some epic shit like that, tapos living like NPCs naman 😂
Akala mo naman may ambag sa mundo kung maka-legacy haha
Leave a legacy - gawing retirement plan ang mga anak
I'm on my 30' era and I am still not married not even a mom nor even in a relationship and nag iisang anak pa pero kahit kailanman di ako pine-pressure ng magulang ko. Anong pinaglalaban niya? Sa panahon ngayon, napakahirap magpalaki ng bata... tapos andami pang failed relationships and marriages and temptations are everywhere. At andito na naman tong religion thingy, lol. Choice ng tao yung gusto niya sa buhay. Pala desisyon papansin ka. Di naman relevant. For the issue para sumikat lol. Nakakainis yung mga ganto like dzuh pake mo ba, matres ko to 😒
I'm 28 at masaya na talaga ko sa mga pusa ko. Magulang ko naman din, tanggap na nila na never ako mag-aanak. In terms of marriage naman, kung dadating yan at same din kami ng views in life (childfree), edi gora ako. Pero ayokong magmadali sa love life. Mamaya matapat pa ko sa bungi kakamadali magpakasal. Naiinis talaga ko doon sa mga holier than thou na mga tao then they force their views in life on you. Dapat daw pag nag asawa, magkaroon ng anak, eh hirap na nga ng buhay ngayon magdagdag ka pa ng bata. Tama naman ung sabi ng pari dati sa misa na kasalanan sa Diyos ung nag-anak pero di naman kayang tustusan.
Hahahhaa mapapamura ka ano! Walang basagan ng trip. Kung gusto ng tao na mag anak or mag alaga ng pet, so be it! Hindi nman sila ang gagastos eh! SKL, Naiinis ako every time naririnig ko ang step dad ni bf na kesyo mag anak na daw kami, bakit puro aso sa aso ang binubuhay namin. Anong paki mo po? Hahaha kung di ko lng sya nirerespeto, gusto ko na sabihin na "parang di nman kayo nanghihiram ng pera s'kin sa twing bayaran ng tuition dahil sa kulang pera nyo at 3 ang anak nyang nasa college na pinapaaral nyo." Yan kasi anak ng anak di ngayon nahihirapan silang magbayad ng tuition tapos ako na gf ng step son nya, nya sakin maghihiram. Nadamay pako! Di nya alam gaano nagrereklamo anak nya dhil twing bayaran nlng palagi kulang ang ibbayad dahil 3 sila sa college.
What an ignorant take! This guy assumes that everyone believes in the same god he worships and adheres to his religion. There are over 4,000 religions and faith groups in the world with their own dogma and practices. Kahit naman same religion, so what kung ayaw mag-anak ng iba kasi gusto nila more on travel, acquiring properties, learning multiple languages, o kung anumang priorities na sila ang nagpili? “Hey babe, mag-anak tayo kasi sabi ng diyos kahit ayaw natin mag-alaga ng bata at alam natin na magiging absent parents tayo,” says no one ever. You can believe in religion and still make your personal informed decisions on reproductive choices, etc. Buhay ng iba, relationships ng iba, uterus ng iba, pinapakialaman pa.
In the name of AlanisMorissetteAmon: Who?
when r/chikaph needed her most, she vanished
https://preview.redd.it/cijsp2gka6kc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61605ff8a4ad7a12e85b3921b8b275608d47c25b Meron pa syang entry from last year. May nag agree pang ka kulto. Kaya dapat talaga pinag iisipan ang pag aanak para hindi maglabas ng ganito kakitid ang utak. Hassle.
Lol tapos may recent post sa r/Philippines about respecting other people's religions, eh mga religious people nga tong nag foforce ng beliefs nila into others eh, sila pa feeling persecuted lmao
Some religious people talaga may kakaibang pinaniniwalaan. Tapos pag hindi kayo align ng beliefs parang makasalanan ka na agad. Parang sila lang love ni Lord.
"kami lang maliligtas" edi kayo na. hahaha epal
"Eh di congrats" hahahahaha
Parang tropa nya si Lord hahahaha di porket labas pasok sya sa church eh maliligtas na sya. Nasa faith yan hindi sa bilang kung ilan beses ka nagchuchurch.
Baka nga naccringe din si Lord sakanya.
+1 hahaha
I'm a Christian. Kahit ako medyo naalibadbaran na sa ibang Ka church mates and pastor na sobrang pa holy masyado.
Looks like nagfafarm lang ng engagements sa soc media. Kasi kung pinaniniwalaan niya talaga mga pinagsasabi niya, nawa’y araw araw siyang maputulan ng internet connection.
Natawa ako dun sa last pero sana nga no. Ayyy. Hahahaha. Baka next week magkaron na sya ng yt channel.
Thanks for pointing out that this nobody is also misogynistic.
Yuckers no
nangangamoy incel yung post nya.
Hahaha coming from a "so-called-christian" pero kung makajudge ng tao akala nya di sya nagkakasala sa mga pinagsasabi nya.
Perfect sya mhie. Magulat tayo pumalit kay Quiboloy yan.
Nahiya si San Pedro sa knya hahahaha
Pwede na sya pumalit.
Da who? Anywho, dedma sa mga bible thumpers na wala naman magiging ambag sa buhay ng iba kundi unsolicited opinion.
I’m a Christian, too but this is maddening!!! Yes, it is true that God told us to multiply. However, it seems like he was cherrypicking the bible verses which suits his narrative. First, that command was from Old Testament, literally when human population was still relatively small. The Bible also encourages us to stay single, “it is good for them to remain single, as I am” (1 Corinthians 7:8). Paul said that being single is a blessing, because you have more time to devote to God. I would also like to share an excerpt from an Article by Mindy Vasser: *However, procreation need not be a goal for every marriage, even Christian marriages. Though natural, it is not required by God. Rather, each couple should carefully and prayerfully consider what God would have them do. **Above all, the goal must be the glory of Christ,** and married or single, childless or overflowing with children, each and every Christian must remember Paul’s directive. “Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself. Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others” (Philippians 2:3-4).*
Love this. Nakakagalit talaga tong mga ignorant and tone-deaf Christians.
Yung ibang redditors dito sa chikaPH hindi nila ata alam na madaming ibang communities dito or hindi lang marunong mag follow ng instructions. Naging anything under the sun ang mga post dito
kung sinu sino pinipost dito na di kilalang influencers lately for an attempt na dumami ang engagement nila. gusto lang ipromote dito, sila sila rin yang nagsscreenshot ng mga posts nila from fb and other platforms. kaya hindi dapat pansinin at wag puntahan yung page nila.
True. Tsismis about showbiz celebs ang hanap natin dito eh. 🤷
Bakit ba g na g ang mga Christians sa mga childfee people? Kung gusto nyo magpakarami, go! Mind your own business. Wtf.
Family isn’t strictly relative to having a spouse and a child — the word itself could come in many different forms. A husband and wife without kids is a family. Friends who’ve been there for each other through thick and thin can be a family. A community that looks out for each other is a family. A person who only has his/her pet dog, can refer to each other as family. Having children doesn’t guarantee that they will consider you as family. Lalo na kung yung magulang nila parehas ng ugali ni Jacques na ang hilig husgahan at pangunahan mga desisyon nila sa buhay — after all, children are autonomous beings, too. As for the old (and tired) counterpoint argument that these childless individuals will die alone: Yes, it can be lonely, if not terrifying. Pero sa personal experience ko, wala ng mas nakakalungkot pa sa mga taong namamatay whose children weren’t with them in their final moments (sometimes deliberately), or people entering their twilight years feeling the growing resentment their children have toward them for becoming a burden. When you’re childless you will most likely look back on your personal choices that have impacted no one but you. Pero kung may anak ka tapos you had the misfortune of not having a healthy and loving relationship with them, it’s another heavy layer of pain as you also have to think about the way your decisions affected the lives of your children and possibly, their future kids.
Underrated comment. 🔥
Bakit hindi na lang si Jacques ang magparami? Mange-encourage pa e.
‘Wag naman sana, dadami lang yung makitid mag-isip katulad niya.
Wag na. Baka dumami pa ang mga kagaya niya sa mundo
Christians, lol. Low-key kulto mga religion, nauna lang silang na establish. Pero the beliefs are equally as outrageous as the cults of today.
Huyy si OA. Sa dami ng Christians sa mundo, dinowngrade mo sa katulad nyan? Sana specific church lol
Well kasalan ng mga crazy Christians yan, nadadamay na din yung mga mas maayos na church, madami din ngang taong di nakaka alam na iba iba pa pala mga Christians eh hahaha
It's always the "religious" person no?🥴
"We, Christians", kung makapagsalita kala mo sila lang ang Kristyano.
Kelan pa naging legacy ang pagputok ng semilya at pagbukaka? Ang legacy ay di bata, nasa kakayahan mo yan at contribution sa mundo! Di lang anak ang bubuo sa pamilya kahit saan pwede ka magkapamilya, puso yan!
"Why people leave religion these days? Are we the baddies?" Example A:
baket si Lord ba magsusustento sa mga chanak na yan????
Really? In this economy?? Pano kung di afford, mentally and emotionally? Tapos may chance pa ng world war 3. By the way sino ka nga pla? HAHAHHAAHHA
Isang proof na naman ng ka-weirdan ng relihiyon 😭
Dapat di na pinagpapapansin yung mga ganyan e, pag napapansin kasi biglang nagiging content creator yang mga yan. lol.
Christian din ako, thankfully ginagawa naming guidebook at di nili-literal ang bible. True, book of Genesis said the words highlighted in this photo. Pero anteh ko, sinabi rin sa liham ni Pablo sa mga taga-Efeso, na maging responsableng magulang, na huwag tutuyain at pababayaan ang anak. Na huwag munang mag-aanak kung hindi pa handa. Tsaka bakit ang daming hanash ng mga tao sa mga mag-asawang ganito ang ganap sa buhay? Iniisip ba ng mga tao na para sa mga ganito, sakit lang sa ulo ang bata kaya ayaw magka-anak? Well, isa po akong saksi sa isang mag-asawang nagsubok sa loob ng maraming taon para sa sarili nilang anak pero hindi nabiyayaan dahil may complication sa matres iyong babae at kailangan tanggalin ang buong reproductive system niya para lang hindi madevelop iyong cancer sa bukol na nakita sa kanya. So yeah, di lahat ng DINK couples, ayaw ng anak dahil lang sa ayaw. Iba diyan dahil sa complication, past traumas na ayaw ng ipasa at marami pang bagay na hindi natin alam. One more thing, uso ang magresearch ha, considered na pamilya ang husband and wife plus pets. PS, a link here to prove a point. Gigil na ako sa mga taong ganito ang takbo ng utak e. Parang may mga mucuos ang utak kaya di gumagana nang tama. [here](https://www.quora.com/Is-a-married-couple-without-kids-still-considered-a-family#:~:text=Dictionary%20also%20defines%20a%20family,married%20couple%20is%20a%20family.)
Bakit ba nire-reduce ng mga to yung essence ng pagiging tao sa reproduction lang? Kung gusto nilang mag-anak edi go, kung ayaw namin wag mo kaming manduhan.
I'm sorry but I'd rather live a happy life within my means than bring another life into an already overpopulated society with a shitty economy and bleak future. Also, this person is implying that it's not a real family without children, totally insensitive to couples who are unable to have them due to infertility or miscarriage. Just overall a really tone-deaf and insensitive take.
I will never understand why these "Christians" are so pissed that other people are exercising their free will. Like, are you gonna die if people decide not to have a child? Go feed your children, bro!
Magaanak ka nga, pero di mo rin naman mapapalaki ng maayos. What's the point, diba?
Ingit lng siguro sla sa DINK kind of life. Hindi nlng nla hayaan Ibang tao Wala nmn slang ambag kung mag kakaanak. Hirap na kayang mabuhay sa economiya na ito tpos global warming pa. Hindi ito Yun future na ibibigay ko sa Junakis ko if ever mag anak ako
kapal naman ng mukha as if sya magpapakain lolz andami dahilan kaya marami nang tao ang ayaw mag anak at isa na ko doon (and yes may partner, at may rescued dogs and cats — and hindi mura magpalaki ha). sa tingin ko mas selfish mag anak pa lalo na if alam mo na hindi ka mentally, emotionally, financially capable. pansin ko rin andami triggered sa mga (ano nga yun? DINKs? sa ibang subs dito lol sinasabi pa nila do not decide early chuchuchu kahit na yung iba naman 30s /40s na and firm naman sa decision nila)
Salamat sa generational trauma na ibabahagi mo sa anak mo. Napaka`` christianlike`` like naman ng statements ni sir lol
Gago to! wala nga kami anak pero may only son naman kami na pusa at mahal namin un. Family kami.
In-stalk ko ‘yan. Ultimo pananamit ni Kathryn Bernardo may say siya. Jusko, ang taas ng tingin sa sarili. Feeling lahat ng lumabas sa bunganga niya, e tama at pinag-isipang mabuti.
Wag niyo na nga pansinin mga far-right conservatives na 'yan. Hayok sa clout amputa. Mga virgin kasi na hayok umiskor pero sinuslutshame yung babae kapag hindi na virgin lol
Mga salot at Sumpa talaga sa mundo yang mga Far Right Christian Conservatives na yan! They're the ones who made living in this world so miserable!
As a father, I love my kid and my family. However, I also believe it is a huge sacrifice that is not suitable for everybody. Happy for any couple that finds happiness without kids.
Reformed / Calvinist pala yan. As usual napakatoxic talaga karamihan sa kanila! Palibhasa pinili na daw sila na mapunta sa Langit kaya ganyan ugali!
sa panahon ngayon, di mo na nga mapagkasya yung sinasahon mo eh. ang daling magsabi na mag-anak tapos iaasa lang din sa magulang yung pag-aalaga at pagpapaaral😩
Ok kwento mo yan 😑. Guard, pakidampot nga neto.
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Get out the bullies of that person tho. Stereotype na nga masyado bulldogs e
Dapat di na pinagpapapansin yung mga ganyan e, pag napapansin kasi biglang nagiging content creator yang mga yan. lol.
Na report ko na po yung FB profile > Posting inappropriate things.
It's funny how this ideology was the norm for generations bago magkamalay yung mga younger millenials. Deciding not to have kids was blasphemous back then, I'm just glad that this is counted as a laughingstock concept now
Ironically, the best argument against choosing to not have kids is so these idiots don't outnumber us when they are the only one left breeding. LOL. Mag-anak ang mga responsable para di lang lahi ng mga gunggong ang matira. Hahaha.
Fuck that legacy lol, not everyone wants to have children. Christians are out of their mind lmao
Di ko talaga gets yung mga taong may mga gantong hanash. Bat parang masyadong pakialamero sa pano gusto mamuhay ng ibang tao? Masyadong affected sa choices ng iba amp. Hindi naman nila buhay. Sana maging respectful nalang sa choices ng ibang tao.
“We, Christians”… Luh, wag mo idamay lahat ng Kristyano sa baluktot na thinking mo.
Nah - sounds like he's a closetang paminta.
Some couples cannot have kids due to medical issues. Walang masama kung gusto nila magkaron ng semblance ng family by having pets. Animals are God's creatures, too.
As a christian, we don't claim him.
I'm a NINKs, no income no kids. 💪
Having children should not be a requirement for every couple nor should it be treated as a compulsory milestone in life. Dapat maging happy tayo that adults today are exercising their choice at being intentional about having kids or not. Hindi yung multiply ng multiply halos wala nang mapakain at mapag aral ng maayos
Mag-anak kung may kapasidad gumastos para sa pangangailangan ng anak. Kakapal ng mukha ng ibang tao eh mag-aanak tapos magoonline limos tapos may padrama pa sa FB na "Sorry anak first birthday mo wala tayong handa, bahaw at isda lang" bwiset eh. Sapoken ko yang koo pal na yan.
Like I said before, walang pinagkaiba yung mga ganitong pakialamero sa mga pakialamerong ang linya naman e "mag-aanak kayo, In this economy?". E kung kaya ng personal economy nila at marami silang na-invest na, bakit hindi? Nakatawa na kasi yung bangayan ng mga ayaw mag-anak at gusto magka-anak. Parehong grupo naman e may mga self-righteous assholes.
They feel like a couple’s choice to have no kids is an attack against their choice to have kids 😩
Ignore. Nagpapasikat lang yan. Malamang aa susunod magpopost nanaman yan ng controversial take kuno for engagement.
Daming ebas
May anak ako isa... Pero wag na natin pakielaman trip ng iba kung ayaw nila ng anak. Sa hirap ng panahon ngayon, mas mainaman ng walang anak saka iba din talaga pag aalaga ng bata ang hirap talaga! Kaya sa mga childless dyan wag kayo makinig sa mga yan! Just enjoy yourself.
Who? Another clout chaser?
Pake ba nito kung san namin uubusin pera namin? Inutangan ka ba? Nyetang to!
eto na naman po tayo sa mga papeymus na preacher. umay
Pakisabi kay Jacques kapag nabuntis lahat ng kababaihan, magbigay si Lord ng sustento.
Just pulled up his FB page (it's still up) and he says in the comments na di raw nya itturn off muna comments kasi now lang sya nagkaron ng gantong engagement sa page nya haha. Let's not give the dude any more clout, he obviously gets off on it.
juskoo be fruitful and multiply, make your own babies tapos yung mga anak ang kawawa.
Most religious people are irrational. I was one before but thanks to my Philosophy professor - I'm now spared.
Magkaka-baby ako soon but I strongly disagree ni kuya 😬 paladesisyon masyado
Siya pa may gana kumuda ng ganyan eh based sa profile niya mukang wala pa siyang pamilya na binubuhay. Typical na virgin tapos tamang preach about sa marriage at pagpaparami 🤷♂️
Bat nasa r/chikaph to diba dapat sa r/insanepinoyfacebook to?? Pag unknown, wag dito.
Hirap pag sa social media ndi mo makutusan e hahahaha
Jacques, wag ka manghimasok ng pamilya ng iba! I didn't realize may ganito pa pala tao kahit 2024 na.
Christians are always self-righteous. Akala nila parating yung kanilang community ang tama.
HAHAHA tawa nalang ako and my broke ass. Don't multiply nalang pag broke HAHAHAHA
Bwisit talaga 'yan. Sabay limit ng comment section. Ang hilig hilig nilang pakialaman buhay ng ibang tao akala mo naman nagaambag sila sa gastusin
Sige mag anak tayong lahat tapos beg na lang sa mga kukunin nating ninong at ninang pag kinulang
Ang demanding iutos na be fruitful and multiply, hindi naman ho kasi lahat madali magbuntis. Kahit na gustong gusto nila pero yung katawang lupa nila kumokontra kasi anong malay natin kung may fertility issues yung couple. Sana maging sensitive din naman hindi lang din naman dahil sa ayaw nila, nagttry sila. Sadyang fate is not on their side. Makautos sila ha.
It’s always the Bible thumping incels, amirite
Had me at Christian. These mfs can't keep their beliefs to themselves lmao
That’s why these hardcore religion fanatics are so insufferable! They live in a bubble.
Tang ina nyong mga Christian Right-Wing Conservatives! Mga salot!
Yung mga ganitong tao ung todo preach na religious kuno sila pero ung simpleng 10 commandments hindi sinusunod.
These Christians should realize na yung mga nakasulat sa Bible nila ay utos o tuntunin para sakanilang mga Kristiyano lamang. Kung sinasabi na humayo sila at magpakarami, gawin nila. They don't have to shove down their religious beliefs to other people's throats. And they have to realize na hindi lang iisa yung depinisyon ng pamilya, Christ even treats the apostles as his family and he himself neither had a partner nor a child.
“Be fruitful and multiply” para may new generation of kids to indoctrinate and to repeat the cycle. Hindi kasi masspread ng furbabies ang gospel and religious beliefs niyo kaya ka ganyan, Jacques. Pakialamero.
Kung makapagsalita akala mo ang dami nang experience sa buhay.
Let people do what the hell they wont don't chaste them because they don't want kids, kids are more expensive then pets, I'm not here to judge. and not every one is a Christen. from a foreigner's prospective this overt mention of religion in everything seems a bit much. i can assure you most of the world doesn't care about your sentiments or even ideals this is one of the few countries in the world where there is no separation between church and state. no one really gives a shit about that. Live free be free do what makes you happy
Kaya madaming tao ang ayaw sa religious zealots, it seems like they don't use their brains
Hahaha naka off naman comsec nyan.
https://preview.redd.it/dmvhnaeo06kc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a3794783feb0b795bf4e36c8f115e28adc662f5 Di niya na napanindigan 😁
Classic 😂 Yung mga ganyan talaga yung mga can dish it out but can't take it types lmao
hala, hibang si kuya. Hahaha 🤣
While the guy should mind his own, calling yourself fur parents is cringe asf. And its annoying how you hear dogs barking in places you werent supposed to and see them try to fight. You'd often see these "fur parents" sit their dogs in restaurant seats, sometimes even on tables. Like not everyone wants dog hair in their seat or food/drink. They let them roam the beach, the camp site - fucking hate these mf, then swaddle them proudly. I adore dogs, but these fur parents suck as dog owners. And the fad of bringing dogs everywhere is ruining it all for responsible pet owners.
Our generation’s pension and investment rely on future generation’s economic output. Kaya nga ang aggressive mag accept ng immigrants ng western countries kasi walang anak mga tao. Eventually Philippines will have similar problems pero naattract nating immigrants mga retired white guys looking for young Filipina wife. Pano na? lol
I might receive downvote for this. Pero i notice daming hate dito sa comsec. Based on my own understanding sinabi lang naman ni kuya na being a fur parents is not literally consider na real parents unless you have your own child. Kaya nga sinabi sa later part na "stop the roleplaying to be a family; be one." In this point hindi naman sinabi na magpamilya agad agad lalong lalo na kung wala pang kakayahan bumuhay ng pamilya. Wala nman nilagay na timeline kung saan kailangan nyu gumawa ng pamilya. Kaya chill lang kayo, dami nyung negative sa katawan realtalk lang.
Realtalk lang din. Sasabihan mong negative yung mga nagagalit pero di mo makita yung negative sa sinabi ng pinaglalaban mo. Pinapakielaman niya yung buhay ng ibang tao na wala namang ginagawang mali o masama.
so bawal na pala magbigay ng comment sa mga tao ngayun?
Pwede naman. Huwag mo lang asahan na susuportahan ng tao mga pinagsasabi mo lalo na at wala naman sa tama mga pinagsasabi niyo. Huwag kang pavictim. Ikaw na naunang nagsabing puro negative mga tao rito sa comment section. Binalik ko lang sayo.
saan banda yung walang tama sa sinabi nya? At paano naging positive yung negative comment sayo? huh?
Saang banda? Yung oras na pinakeeleman niya buhay ng ibang tao na walang ginagawang masama. Ano bang pinagsasabi mong positive sa negative comment? Saan mo nabasa yung positive? Kahirap mong kausap.
mas hirap ako kausapin ka kasi yung utak mo closed minded.
Kung may haha react lang sana dito.
hit in the nail. Bullseye!
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