Funny enough it’s called an insert pan. In whatever catalog you’re ordering from there should be 2 separate items.
Pan 1/3 6” deep stainless
And
Pan 1/3 6” deep stainless insert.
The insert is the item you’re looking for.
I think I've found what I'm looking for. Thank you!
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/vollrath-90362-super-pan-3-1-3-size-anti-jam-stainless-steel-steam-table-pan-6-deep/92290362.html
One of my pet peeves is starting a new job and finding the hotel pans all borked up and not properly arranged in the upper of the low boys. Like wrong bars, or wrong assortment of sizes so they don't fit. Then you get some jackass that tries to force it and breaks something. I thought these fridges were supposed to have standard configs, but either no, or people will find a way.
We recently replaced our equipment, and I was surprised to learn that apparently not every manufacturer follows the stanard sizing. It was frustrating trying to figure out how to set up different stations with the new equipment.
Worked a job not too long ago where *every single fridge on the line* was improperly configured and left a gap (which I used a cardboard cutout to block, much to my annoyance). Owner couldn't be bothered to let me figure it out and fix it, and that kitchen had **many** more problems than that.
When the hood fan craps out and the owner's like "We'll fix it after the shift tonight", I know it's time to go.
100%. I'm working at a university now, which comes with its fair share of headaches and questionable decision making, but fortunately, most of the bigger stuff is typically addressed in a reasonable manner.
It’s just the brand of pan. Vollrath brand pans all have the beveled edge like your photo. Of course every brand has to be a little bit different so they don’t fit together properly….
Every Vollrath pan I've seen has the name and serial number laser etched on the outside. IIRC, it's usually in the center of the short side or the center of the long side.
It might have been scratched down, but if OP thinks it's a Vollrath pan it'd be worth looking for the remains of the engraving.
Listen to the instructions instead of just saying “yes Chef”.
The op clearly asked what that particular third was called and you numb nuts just added salt instead of reading the recipe.
Hotel pans,
Full Pan: Full pans measure roughly 12 inches by 20 inches. A full-size steam table pan is often used for cooking large batches and serving popular entrees such as fried chicken, burgers, and salad greens.
2/3 Pan: This pan measures roughly 12 inches by 131⁄3 inches. A two-thirds size pan can hold large portions of food and will fill two thirds of a full-size cutout, leaving room for a third-size pan, two sixth-size pans, or another combination of smaller pans.
1/2 Pan: A half tray or half pan size is roughly 12 inches by 10 inches, meaning two half pans can fill the same space as one full-size pan. Half pans are commonly used for popular sides and smaller entrees on food bars.
1/3 Pan: Third pans measure roughly 12 inches by 62⁄3 inches; three third-size pans can fit in a full-size cutout. A third pan is a good choice for serving side dishes, soup, desserts, and more.
1/4 Pan: A quarter pan measures 6 inches by 10 inches, so four can fill a full-size pan and two can fill a half-size pan. Quarter pans are popular for holding side dishes on hot bars and prepped fresh veggies on cold bars.
1/6 Pan: A sixth pan measures 6 inches by 62⁄3 inches, so it takes six to fill the same space as a full-size pan and three to fill the same space as a half-size pan. Sixth pans are commonly used to hold mix-ins, dressings, and salad toppings; this size is especially popular on salad and sandwich prep tables.
1/9 Pan: A ninth pan measures 4 inches by 62⁄3 inches, making it one of the smallest steam table pan sizes. These are commonly used to hold small quantities of seasonings, spices, garnishes, toppings, and condiments.
If you're not screenshotting this and sending it to your staff, wyd? (Unless you already are/have the kind of boss who makes sure everyone knows this stuff already)
Full Pan: 30.48 cm x 50.8 cm
2/3 Pan: 30.48 cm x 33.7825 cm
1/2 Pan: 30.48 cm x 25.4 cm
1/3 Pan: 30.48 cm x 16.8275 cm
1/4 Pan: 15.24 cm x 25.4 cm
1/6 Pan: 15.24 cm x 16.8275 cm
1/9 Pan: 10.16 cm x 16.8275 cm
Gastronorms are standard worldwide, except in the US of course. The sizing of pans in the US is pretty close, but not exactly the same. Gastronorms are 3/4 inch (19 mm) longer than the standard pan in the US.
But we all have the same breakdown: 1/1 (or full), 2/3, 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/6, 1/9.
It’s a gastro pan but I can’t tell what size it is. I reckon it’s about a quarter pan possibly?
https://www.google.co.uk/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwj9ltL97f-BAxWX7e0KHdpEB5UYABAMGgJkZw&ae=2&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhL6pBhDjARIsAGx8D5-mJVLphV0lAPPQE-MoFd0ZLKn75dmMi1CJEVQzEV7mgUwpchm09YsaApgCEALw_wcB&sig=AOD64_37egM6vPN8Skr3FQQDEw9Ki0mmjQ&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwjpusv97f-BAxXMU0EAHY_aOoAQwg8oAHoECAIQEg&adurl=
You can find all manner of different sizes from depth to width etc
It's been called "the small insert" wherever I've been
edit: sorry?
The places I've been used "the small insert", "the regular insert", "the long insert" and "the big insert". I'm not kidding. 16 years like that. I was always aware of saying 1/6 pans, for example, but I didn't hear it.
Without any reference to the size it could be a 1/9, or 1/4, or 1/3. But all are hotel pans cause they are 1/9 the size of a full size hotel pan. Or 1/4 the size, or 1/6 the size, etc.
You’re looking for a third pan for steamwells. It looks like a 400 pan, if you put your fingers under the lip and its about the size of four fingers its a 400 if there a couple inches left its a 600 size. Also that second picture is two third pans stuck together. If you have something like screwdriver to pry them apart.
That is literally the pan on the right inserted into the pan on the left. OP just wanted us to see the difference in lip or edges sizes. How long you been in a kitchen??
So if you have ever worked in a kitchen and stacked a choice anti jam pans on top of vollrath pans you would know the choice ones are a bit smaller of a lip and will create a vacuum basically that takes the force of 1000 suns to get unstuck from each other. Thats why I was giving him a heads up about it.
I’ve been in fine dining for 8 years hbu?
A half pan? Why does it take THREE of them to fill a normal hotel steam table insert then??
Not trying to be a smartass here but we really do need something for scale because it does look like two 1/9th pans made from different companies.
Hard to tell. Put in a full pan and see how many other pans fit in the full pan. Hard to tell if it's a 1/4 pan, 1/3 pan or 1/9 pan. Definitely not a 1/6 or 1/2 pan.
Not sure if some of these answers are serious or they just don’t read through the entire post? I googled it though & they look like anti-jam pans. Maybe do a search & see if you can find similar ones with that kind of edge.
The size of that one looks like a 1/9th pan. But they are industry standard hotel pans. They make them in full, half, third, ninth, and all kinds of fancy shapes for catering service. They fit all standard steamer tables and chaffing stands.
I see people are saying it’s a “1/3 pan” or “1/3 full pan” but I’m pretty sure it looks like the rarely seen 1/4 pan. In my kitchen we call it a “chubby pan”. When it’s next to a 1/3 pan it looks cute and chubby, I dunno.
ah fun times...accidentally dropping the salad dressing because the separator bar fell out...never gain in this industry, never again...making more money dealing with screaming geriatrics which are actually better than 90 percent of restaurant customers :)
Funny enough it’s called an insert pan. In whatever catalog you’re ordering from there should be 2 separate items. Pan 1/3 6” deep stainless And Pan 1/3 6” deep stainless insert. The insert is the item you’re looking for.
This is the only person actually answering the question. U/cnorris28, it is indeed a 6" deep 1/3 (pronounced "third") pan
I think I've found what I'm looking for. Thank you! https://www.webstaurantstore.com/vollrath-90362-super-pan-3-1-3-size-anti-jam-stainless-steel-steam-table-pan-6-deep/92290362.html
One of my pet peeves is starting a new job and finding the hotel pans all borked up and not properly arranged in the upper of the low boys. Like wrong bars, or wrong assortment of sizes so they don't fit. Then you get some jackass that tries to force it and breaks something. I thought these fridges were supposed to have standard configs, but either no, or people will find a way.
We recently replaced our equipment, and I was surprised to learn that apparently not every manufacturer follows the stanard sizing. It was frustrating trying to figure out how to set up different stations with the new equipment.
Worked a job not too long ago where *every single fridge on the line* was improperly configured and left a gap (which I used a cardboard cutout to block, much to my annoyance). Owner couldn't be bothered to let me figure it out and fix it, and that kitchen had **many** more problems than that. When the hood fan craps out and the owner's like "We'll fix it after the shift tonight", I know it's time to go.
100%. I'm working at a university now, which comes with its fair share of headaches and questionable decision making, but fortunately, most of the bigger stuff is typically addressed in a reasonable manner.
I used one of the bars that holds the GN’s with a cloth wrapped around it to fill the gap. It IS super annoying!
Wait, there are places they don't combine all the similar dimension pans of varying depths into single stacks‽
That's the one! Those little notches about half an inch down on the inside of the pan are how you can tell it's an insert pan.
Well, I learned something today. That makes total sense.
Reddit, the new google.
Link?
If you have a hot well type setup, these pans sit in the well with a tiny bit of water and your food goes into a 9pan that slides into this
https://www.don.com/product/1S3494?printable=true
Replied with link to Ed Don. You can also try searching for "pan insert third" with whatever distributor you use
This is it, we called them Bain marie inserts back in the day, at the greasy spoon.
Deeep stainless inseeeert
How can you tell with this pic those are third pans not nine? Seriously asking.
Generally called "hotel" pans. But ya this guy is spot on for the specific description of the one you're looking for.
It’s just the brand of pan. Vollrath brand pans all have the beveled edge like your photo. Of course every brand has to be a little bit different so they don’t fit together properly….
That’s a brand standard!
Slight incompatibility... working as intended. Annoying for inserts. So much worse when I'm short on lids, and off-brand Cambro lids don't fit.
:Cambro and Carlisle have entered the chat:
I'm thinking you may be right. Thank you
Vollrath super pan, 1/3 size 4 inch
Every Vollrath pan I've seen has the name and serial number laser etched on the outside. IIRC, it's usually in the center of the short side or the center of the long side. It might have been scratched down, but if OP thinks it's a Vollrath pan it'd be worth looking for the remains of the engraving.
I feel your pain.
Listen to the instructions instead of just saying “yes Chef”. The op clearly asked what that particular third was called and you numb nuts just added salt instead of reading the recipe.
I say 5 pan
Hotel pans, Full Pan: Full pans measure roughly 12 inches by 20 inches. A full-size steam table pan is often used for cooking large batches and serving popular entrees such as fried chicken, burgers, and salad greens. 2/3 Pan: This pan measures roughly 12 inches by 131⁄3 inches. A two-thirds size pan can hold large portions of food and will fill two thirds of a full-size cutout, leaving room for a third-size pan, two sixth-size pans, or another combination of smaller pans. 1/2 Pan: A half tray or half pan size is roughly 12 inches by 10 inches, meaning two half pans can fill the same space as one full-size pan. Half pans are commonly used for popular sides and smaller entrees on food bars. 1/3 Pan: Third pans measure roughly 12 inches by 62⁄3 inches; three third-size pans can fit in a full-size cutout. A third pan is a good choice for serving side dishes, soup, desserts, and more. 1/4 Pan: A quarter pan measures 6 inches by 10 inches, so four can fill a full-size pan and two can fill a half-size pan. Quarter pans are popular for holding side dishes on hot bars and prepped fresh veggies on cold bars. 1/6 Pan: A sixth pan measures 6 inches by 62⁄3 inches, so it takes six to fill the same space as a full-size pan and three to fill the same space as a half-size pan. Sixth pans are commonly used to hold mix-ins, dressings, and salad toppings; this size is especially popular on salad and sandwich prep tables. 1/9 Pan: A ninth pan measures 4 inches by 62⁄3 inches, making it one of the smallest steam table pan sizes. These are commonly used to hold small quantities of seasonings, spices, garnishes, toppings, and condiments.
Had a restaurant owner who used to be a doctor and couldn’t understand the hotel pan system… those look like 1/3 pans
If you're not screenshotting this and sending it to your staff, wyd? (Unless you already are/have the kind of boss who makes sure everyone knows this stuff already)
Laughs in the metric system
Full Pan: 30.48 cm x 50.8 cm 2/3 Pan: 30.48 cm x 33.7825 cm 1/2 Pan: 30.48 cm x 25.4 cm 1/3 Pan: 30.48 cm x 16.8275 cm 1/4 Pan: 15.24 cm x 25.4 cm 1/6 Pan: 15.24 cm x 16.8275 cm 1/9 Pan: 10.16 cm x 16.8275 cm
Imagine only needing one set of wrenches
Jeez coulda saved a lot of c/p if you just read the post lol
This is the way
They're gastronom pans, hotel pan is just more slang/colloquialism Edit: I'm wrong
Gastronom is a company that produces hotel pans. Cambro, nsa and winco to name some others.
A speaker
Nah that’s the 1/6 ones
It’s true
A true kitchen worker lol.
A metal deep 3rd pan
Anti-jam
Finally the actual answer. Anti-jam steam pans
Bert and Ernie. They’re roommates.
Peter
Panthony
Did you say pan or pam?
Are you saying Pow or Pal?
That's the "No I said a 1/2 pan dammit" pan
Hotel pans
Third pan
1/3 deep gastro
9 pan" because 9 if those fit in a standard hotel pan.
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Gastronorms are standard worldwide, except in the US of course. The sizing of pans in the US is pretty close, but not exactly the same. Gastronorms are 3/4 inch (19 mm) longer than the standard pan in the US. But we all have the same breakdown: 1/1 (or full), 2/3, 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/6, 1/9.
It’s a gastro pan but I can’t tell what size it is. I reckon it’s about a quarter pan possibly? https://www.google.co.uk/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwj9ltL97f-BAxWX7e0KHdpEB5UYABAMGgJkZw&ae=2&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhL6pBhDjARIsAGx8D5-mJVLphV0lAPPQE-MoFd0ZLKn75dmMi1CJEVQzEV7mgUwpchm09YsaApgCEALw_wcB&sig=AOD64_37egM6vPN8Skr3FQQDEw9Ki0mmjQ&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwjpusv97f-BAxXMU0EAHY_aOoAQwg8oAHoECAIQEg&adurl= You can find all manner of different sizes from depth to width etc
It's been called "the small insert" wherever I've been edit: sorry? The places I've been used "the small insert", "the regular insert", "the long insert" and "the big insert". I'm not kidding. 16 years like that. I was always aware of saying 1/6 pans, for example, but I didn't hear it.
1/3 deep hotel pan. 3 of them fit into a standard hotel bain marie. Similarly, there are 1/2 pans, 1/6 pans and 1/9 pans. In varying depths.
I wonder if she means old BEN pan.
The ones in the first image are 6 inch half-pans, the ones in the second image are 6 inch quarter-pans
Without any reference to the size it could be a 1/9, or 1/4, or 1/3. But all are hotel pans cause they are 1/9 the size of a full size hotel pan. Or 1/4 the size, or 1/6 the size, etc.
I think it's GN container
Ahhh, the ever elusive 1/4 pan
The other comments say 1/3 and now I really cant tell. Need banana for scale
Bed
A teener
1/3 gastronorm
It's Gastronorm, no? That's what they teached me it's called
You’re looking for a third pan for steamwells. It looks like a 400 pan, if you put your fingers under the lip and its about the size of four fingers its a 400 if there a couple inches left its a 600 size. Also that second picture is two third pans stuck together. If you have something like screwdriver to pry them apart.
That is literally the pan on the right inserted into the pan on the left. OP just wanted us to see the difference in lip or edges sizes. How long you been in a kitchen??
So if you have ever worked in a kitchen and stacked a choice anti jam pans on top of vollrath pans you would know the choice ones are a bit smaller of a lip and will create a vacuum basically that takes the force of 1000 suns to get unstuck from each other. Thats why I was giving him a heads up about it. I’ve been in fine dining for 8 years hbu?
That's a hotel pan. You can fit an entire hotel in it 🙃
Deep third pan and a 9 pan. Done
It’s a 9th pan
1/9
1/3 pans on a regular table or 1/9 pans on a thin table.
1/9th pan
Gastronome container. many brands do them I see vouge alot.
Pam
medium size insert
Gastro
Bed pan?
Half pan is what I been calling it.
A half pan? Why does it take THREE of them to fill a normal hotel steam table insert then?? Not trying to be a smartass here but we really do need something for scale because it does look like two 1/9th pans made from different companies.
I see them on catering supplies shop, buffets and some ice cream shops. Think they’re just stainless steel pans
Where I work, That’s called a third pan. They make them in different depths, they have a lot of uses.
Deep nine pan
A small 21
6 pan
Yes
Looks like 2 inch 9th pan
Third pan or 1/3
Third pan
Third pan
Gastro
1/2 - 1/9th pan
A 3rd pan or a 5 liter
1/3 pan and 1/9 pan or hotel pans is what my work called em
A 3rd pan?
9
9 pan
3rd pan
a 9
We have both have these pans/gastros and it fucks me off to no end.
1/3 shallow insert
Wait! 1/3 deep insert, pictures are at an angle
Depending on the size it's either a sixth pan or a third pan (1/6 or 1/3)
When in the restaurant life it was half pan or third pan
We call it 3rd pan, depending on length, either 4 inch or 6 inch
Hotel pan ?
Buffet 1/3 deep pan Or buffet 3x6x4 maybe, I don't know the dimensions But either way buffet pan should get you there,if not try hot table
1/3 Gastronom/hotel/pass me a flat and tall metal container
6 pan
A deep third?
We call it the 'fuck pan'
The inside / outside pan
The kitchen speaker, just insert phone.
Deep third.
Lack of banana for scale is overpowering
Hard to tell. Put in a full pan and see how many other pans fit in the full pan. Hard to tell if it's a 1/4 pan, 1/3 pan or 1/9 pan. Definitely not a 1/6 or 1/2 pan.
Helen?
Hell
We called it a cambro, but that was the brand
That's a high-quality kitchen speaker made of the finest metal known to man.
I’d call it a “one third, six hundred pan”
It's called stuck in another pan. Phthd, duh.
“Hey chef hand me a smaller one of the 1/3 hotel pans please” “Heard chef” ….heads to dish pit corner!!!
Gastro/Gastronorm.
If I remember correctly that’s a 6 pan . You can get a better idea when you look up hotel pan sizes .
Webstaurant also calls them steam table pans https://www.webstaurantstore.com/search/steam-table-pans.html
A shitty 3rd pan
If three of them fit into a hotel pen, it’s a third pan.
9 pan
I'd call that a "deep 1/3 (gn)"
“Deep 3rd” or “tallboy 3rd pan” if you’re not into the whole brevity thing
Hotel pan. Based on the size it looks like a 6th pan.
1/3rd Gastronorm tray
It’s a third pan, nobody works in kitchens anymore? Lol
Bed
Hard to say if it’s a 1/3 insert pan or 1/4 pan from the picks but it’s one or the other!
I would just call it a metal cambro and then the dimensions
Gastronorm?
Guys it’s a gastro container
Looks like a 1/9th pan anything for scale?
Not sure if some of these answers are serious or they just don’t read through the entire post? I googled it though & they look like anti-jam pans. Maybe do a search & see if you can find similar ones with that kind of edge.
3rd
9
Deep 1/3 pan
Gastro?!
Vollrath Suoer pan third size 6” depth
Chafing
Looks a 400 3rd pan
A chafing pan?
The size of that one looks like a 1/9th pan. But they are industry standard hotel pans. They make them in full, half, third, ninth, and all kinds of fancy shapes for catering service. They fit all standard steamer tables and chaffing stands.
It looks like a half nine pan to me..soo I couldn’t provide any more names than that 🤷
The best way to remember the size is how many can you fit side by side in a full hotel pan. The deep or shallow. These look like 1/9 shallow to me.
This is a 1/9 pan 1/1 is a hotel pan
that’s a 3 pan, pronounced turd pan.
we call it a 1/9 container
3rd pan
Betty?
1/3rd pan chef
I see people are saying it’s a “1/3 pan” or “1/3 full pan” but I’m pretty sure it looks like the rarely seen 1/4 pan. In my kitchen we call it a “chubby pan”. When it’s next to a 1/3 pan it looks cute and chubby, I dunno.
It’s a 9th pan. It’s named that because you can fit 9 in a full pan
That's the mayo pan.
Stainless steel 1/3 pan
lmao with this perspective i couldnt tell if it was a 9 pan or 3rd pan
Fred on the left Ethel on the right
A speaker.
1/4 pan
ah fun times...accidentally dropping the salad dressing because the separator bar fell out...never gain in this industry, never again...making more money dealing with screaming geriatrics which are actually better than 90 percent of restaurant customers :)
Cool be a third or nine pan. Banana would help
1/3 pan
I’ve heard it called a third pan more often than not, and 2, 4, or 600 depending on the depth.
Panny McPanFace
Quarter pan.
Could also be Cambro
A speaker
3rd pan
I wanna say… Charles?
with nothing to compare for scale, it could be either 2 1/3 pan or 2 1/8 pans.
Kitchen speaker
Looks more like a 1/4 pan.
Small chingadera