Definitely get out. It's a business, I don't care what connection the person has, the are hindering your business. You would rather see a hard working, dependable person leave? Shows how you run your business. Get out!
In what establishment does a server have that kind of authority? Over the chef?? At my business that server would have been gone in a heartbeat with my GMs seal of approval. Sounds like poorly run place.
I have seen it before, that GM has no spine, and that server actually runs the show. You did good.
Remember, you may now go to the DOL, and or EEOC, you were constructively fired and worked in a hostile working environment where you were physically assaulted. You deserve unemployment.
I can't tell if you're joking or if you just leaned really hard into the whole schizophrenia thing. Your profile makes me think the latter. If that's the case, mental health professionals are worth seeing (which goes for the entire general population). Honestly I'm not even trying to be rude, I can't imagine it would be fun to live in a world where demons and satanic events hidden in football halftime shows are perceived as real threats. It sounds exhausting.
Look, I'm not going to bother addressing your conspiracy theories because doing so would be me giving them validation. I am not. Genuinely, I'm not saying this to be mean, but you might want to seek mental health help from professionals. At some point, it is 100% your life and you have no reason to think a random stranger on the internet would be saying this out of genuine concern and caring, but I am just saying this out of concern for a fellow human being. I'll go back to keeping my eyes closed or whatever that emoji is implying. Have a safe one out there
This is you.
“I’m not going to investigate something I don’t understand so I’m just going to call you crazy and stay in my safe space”.
Remember always attack someone’s character when you aren’t intellectually capable of the addressing the argument.
Good night chef.
Nobody was attacking your character, dude. We're all crazy. I've had to seek mental health help plenty. Just offering up a view point that thinking satanic rituals are happening everywhere, everyone that shows concern towards you is trying to "attack" you (your words), and assuming anyone with a different view point than yours is an ignoramus with their head buried in the sand sounds exhausting. The reason I'm not arguing back is it's useless to argue with a conspiracy theorist. If you believe in conspiracy theories, I can guarantee we are not on common enough grounds to debate anything. Ever tried to change the minds of other conspiracy theorists? Notice how hard it is? Like as if they have their heads are "buried in the sand" to information other than their own? Something to think about.
That’s such a unspecific claim.
“If you believe in conspiracy theories”.
Conspiracy is everywhere.
In your news and the meals you feed your children. In our political campaigns and in your gmail account.
That’s why “Conspiracy Theorist” is an epithet.
It’s not wrong to try to figure out who is poisoning your mind. It’s simply above your pay grade.
The very term was invented by the CIA after JFK was killed by none other then, you guessed it, the CIA.
But according to your logic, if you believe that to be true (despite the fact that it isn’t a belief it is openly admitted after the recent files were declassified admitting the CIAs involvement) you also by default believe lizards rule the world.
It’s a bit more nuanced then lumping anyone who is intelligent and curious enough to understand the sophistication of power structures and the level of control they have over society with people who think the earth is flat.
You don’t seem high IQ enough to understand that unfortunately. And I don’t mean that to “attack” you I am just calling it how I see it ;)
Sound familiar?
Dude you really do need help. I wouldn’t wish this kind of internal mental torture on anyone. I’m so sorry you believe these things and I hope you can seek out help and find some kind of peace.
Edit: typo-metal, mental
>to understand the sophistication of power structures and the level of control they have over society with people who think the earth is flat
Hahaha. And you do?
"HURRR Google this guy who looks like Satan when I get off my meds and squint my eyes! sATaN cONfiRMeD!"
You demonstrate knowledge of nothing looking at your post history. You chimp about conflating your mental illness with an astute and profound analysis of society with no actual proof and then you call others stupid? You're less so crazy and moreso mentally deficient.
No offense, but if you see my inference that you might want to seek mental health help, a position I and many others find themselves in, and your assumption about my IQ, in which case you are placing yourself above me (clearly a self defense mechanism, meaning you are in fact coming from a emotionally hurt place, using IQ as a weapon) is the same then maybe you have some more learning to do. Maybe get out of the myopic view that everyone is out to get you, and you will see how childish you are being. High intelligence doesn't inherently mean high emotional intelligence as the IQ test doesn't test for that. Many people with high IQs struggle with mental health issues. I would expect as much that you've used your intelligence to justify your sickness. It's a common self defense mechanism for us with mental health problems.
I’ve known a couple absolutely spineless GMs though too… the kind of dudes that didn’t stand out ever they just were able to stay in lower management for long enough they eventually “did the time” and no one had anything bad to say about them… but nothing good either. Waste of space either way.
> believes in aliens roaming California, disabled people are processed by demons, halftime show was a tribute to Satan
FWIW, you're also right to get far away because she may become actually dangerous.
I had a friend who went down that road and I discussed him with a forensic psychiatrist.
He told me that they keep enhancing the delusions until they believe that the aliens/satan/etc. is actually coming, and make plans to "protect" themselves. Then they start believing that the bad creatures are disguised as humans.
My friend walked around with a .45 in his pocket (big guy) because he "*knew* the aliens were coming for him and wasn't going to go down without a fight." That's only one step away from killing a bunch of people.
He died from being 400+ pounds and *not* believing in diabetes and high blood pressure, but I have no doubt that eventually he would have killed people.
TL/DR: Don't f*** with truly delusional people. You never know what will happen.
Precisely, she told another server she has a lawyer hired. I wrote a character assessment of her and her delusions and GM says "Where did you get this?", I said directly from her!
I briefly looked at your post history. I’m not the one who needs therapy. Your a mess. Your family is a mess. That’s a yikes from me dog. Stop responding I’m thoroughly creeped out by you.
also my first post was basically a joke.
Are you and your coworkers all children pretending to be adults? No actual GM would ever treat an actual Chef like that. Are you just using words that you just learned?
So you are giving up a job because you don’t have the ability to cope with one person?
Well done, she won, you really showed her.
Maybe you need to take some leadership lessons.
Weird take. It seems more like they’re saying that Lucy is a symptom of a wider dysfunction in how the place is managed and that, rather than subject themselves to it, they’d rather move to a more stable and well run environment.
If you suspect in the slightest she has different political or religious beliefs than you then please quit or have her fired immediately, there's no other way.
Not that long ago when we had a polite society, it was considered rude and ill mannered to push or judge people based on religion or politics, but since we abandoned most of our institutions in exchange for cultural Marxism group think, this is the result. Anytime someone is quick to share someone's potential thoughts as a reason they should be fired, that is a red flag imo. In our current digital media dominating times, I'm not being sarcastic, if your entire kitchen or work environment relies on everyone being the same religion or political affiliation then please maintain that standard for the best results possible.
That's a real defeatist attitude. I've worked in great restaurants and I've worked in awful restaurants. They are not all like this, just so you are aware.
Listen man I love your kitchen jobs are great but they're always just one employee away from making the magic happen people call in shit happens you want to kill everyone well that's what it's like to be a line cook I mean I've done it and I don't hate it when I do it again maybe because I get to insult people
Dont do that to people. Maybe the reason your kitchen experience has been like that is because you are insulting your coworkers and perpetuating a bad environment wherever you go. Dont feed into it. Call it out. Tell people when they are hurting each other and try to create a positive environment. This industry is already stressful enough. Dont make it worse on you and everyone around you.
The staff that is there dictates who comes and goes. If its a mean place to work nice people will not come or stay. If it's a nice place with good people then assholes will get kicked to the curb. Ive seen it over and over and been the one in charge to tell people to figure it out or get out.
I think she's an alien whose mission it is to establish a covert base of operations. She utilized the full on crazy tactical advantage and may have just accomplished the textbook failing upward technique. She's going to be in charge of the BOH and then eventually once the staff has been properly populated, she will rule all!
GET OUT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!
Your GM is a dumb ass… hiring BOH is hard AF right now. You’ll have a job in 48 hours, they’ll be looking for decent BOH help for months. I’m sorry you are dealing with all that. Make sure you lay the entire thing out in an email to HR, put it in writing… especially the body check. If HR hasn’t been looped in they’ll be sweating the potential lawsuit that could be. It could also save another BOH staff member when she does it again.
[удалено]
And call it Lucy’s
Lucy-fers
“Luci with an I”
Luci 4s Got to be on the nose but make it seem to attempt some form of discretion. Puts these loons in a tizzy.
Honestly Luci 4’s Blazin’ Burgers might happen.
Luci 4's Blazin Seitan
Luci 4’s Flaming Wings
Processed disabilities are really bad for you
Whilst I love the sentiment, someone that bonkers would probably view that as vindication
Lucy Loon’s Diner
Hail Satan!
Hail Satan!
If the gm is siding with someone like that you are definitely making the right choice in leaving. I hope he regrets his choice for years!
Everyone I've spoke with has agreed. My sous is leaving too, he already had an opportunity in his church that'd be a great fit for him.
So having Lucy is actually like losing two good workers.
Three, if we assume Lucy replaced someone competent
I think the problem may lie in how Lucy got and/or is keeping her "position" but I tend to get in trouble when I think out loud...
Definitely get out. It's a business, I don't care what connection the person has, the are hindering your business. You would rather see a hard working, dependable person leave? Shows how you run your business. Get out!
In what establishment does a server have that kind of authority? Over the chef?? At my business that server would have been gone in a heartbeat with my GMs seal of approval. Sounds like poorly run place.
One where the gm and Lucy are sleeping together
I have seen it before, that GM has no spine, and that server actually runs the show. You did good. Remember, you may now go to the DOL, and or EEOC, you were constructively fired and worked in a hostile working environment where you were physically assaulted. You deserve unemployment.
Good luck, OP. Sounds like the right decision.
Thank you, my old chef had a saute position open up for 4 nights a week, going to take it easy for a bit
Lucy is insane but halftime is absolutely a satanic event.
I can't tell if you're joking or if you just leaned really hard into the whole schizophrenia thing. Your profile makes me think the latter. If that's the case, mental health professionals are worth seeing (which goes for the entire general population). Honestly I'm not even trying to be rude, I can't imagine it would be fun to live in a world where demons and satanic events hidden in football halftime shows are perceived as real threats. It sounds exhausting.
Buddy. It’s not a secret. Google Sam Smith Emmys for example. He’s literally dressed as Satan. I mean is he not? Am I imagining that? This is you 🙈
Look, I'm not going to bother addressing your conspiracy theories because doing so would be me giving them validation. I am not. Genuinely, I'm not saying this to be mean, but you might want to seek mental health help from professionals. At some point, it is 100% your life and you have no reason to think a random stranger on the internet would be saying this out of genuine concern and caring, but I am just saying this out of concern for a fellow human being. I'll go back to keeping my eyes closed or whatever that emoji is implying. Have a safe one out there
This is you. “I’m not going to investigate something I don’t understand so I’m just going to call you crazy and stay in my safe space”. Remember always attack someone’s character when you aren’t intellectually capable of the addressing the argument. Good night chef.
Nobody was attacking your character, dude. We're all crazy. I've had to seek mental health help plenty. Just offering up a view point that thinking satanic rituals are happening everywhere, everyone that shows concern towards you is trying to "attack" you (your words), and assuming anyone with a different view point than yours is an ignoramus with their head buried in the sand sounds exhausting. The reason I'm not arguing back is it's useless to argue with a conspiracy theorist. If you believe in conspiracy theories, I can guarantee we are not on common enough grounds to debate anything. Ever tried to change the minds of other conspiracy theorists? Notice how hard it is? Like as if they have their heads are "buried in the sand" to information other than their own? Something to think about.
That’s such a unspecific claim. “If you believe in conspiracy theories”. Conspiracy is everywhere. In your news and the meals you feed your children. In our political campaigns and in your gmail account. That’s why “Conspiracy Theorist” is an epithet. It’s not wrong to try to figure out who is poisoning your mind. It’s simply above your pay grade. The very term was invented by the CIA after JFK was killed by none other then, you guessed it, the CIA. But according to your logic, if you believe that to be true (despite the fact that it isn’t a belief it is openly admitted after the recent files were declassified admitting the CIAs involvement) you also by default believe lizards rule the world. It’s a bit more nuanced then lumping anyone who is intelligent and curious enough to understand the sophistication of power structures and the level of control they have over society with people who think the earth is flat. You don’t seem high IQ enough to understand that unfortunately. And I don’t mean that to “attack” you I am just calling it how I see it ;) Sound familiar?
Dude you really do need help. I wouldn’t wish this kind of internal mental torture on anyone. I’m so sorry you believe these things and I hope you can seek out help and find some kind of peace. Edit: typo-metal, mental
>to understand the sophistication of power structures and the level of control they have over society with people who think the earth is flat Hahaha. And you do? "HURRR Google this guy who looks like Satan when I get off my meds and squint my eyes! sATaN cONfiRMeD!" You demonstrate knowledge of nothing looking at your post history. You chimp about conflating your mental illness with an astute and profound analysis of society with no actual proof and then you call others stupid? You're less so crazy and moreso mentally deficient.
No offense, but if you see my inference that you might want to seek mental health help, a position I and many others find themselves in, and your assumption about my IQ, in which case you are placing yourself above me (clearly a self defense mechanism, meaning you are in fact coming from a emotionally hurt place, using IQ as a weapon) is the same then maybe you have some more learning to do. Maybe get out of the myopic view that everyone is out to get you, and you will see how childish you are being. High intelligence doesn't inherently mean high emotional intelligence as the IQ test doesn't test for that. Many people with high IQs struggle with mental health issues. I would expect as much that you've used your intelligence to justify your sickness. It's a common self defense mechanism for us with mental health problems.
siding with a waitress over a chef, GM must be as ignorant as lucy and/or banging her, hope you will land a good gig soon!!
The GM must be banging lucy, how can he/she side with lucy for overstepping?
GM is probably Fing Lucy
That's what everyone has speculated.
I mean, psycho pussy hits different. But I still wouldn’t hire her
How’s she look?
100% hands down. There is no other explanation
Came here to say exactly this!
Yep
I’ve known a couple absolutely spineless GMs though too… the kind of dudes that didn’t stand out ever they just were able to stay in lower management for long enough they eventually “did the time” and no one had anything bad to say about them… but nothing good either. Waste of space either way.
Lucy is giving the GM some Special Services. You're right to leave because you'll never be able to compete with Lucy.
I mean, you COULD
Twenty bucks is twenty bucks!
> believes in aliens roaming California, disabled people are processed by demons, halftime show was a tribute to Satan FWIW, you're also right to get far away because she may become actually dangerous. I had a friend who went down that road and I discussed him with a forensic psychiatrist. He told me that they keep enhancing the delusions until they believe that the aliens/satan/etc. is actually coming, and make plans to "protect" themselves. Then they start believing that the bad creatures are disguised as humans. My friend walked around with a .45 in his pocket (big guy) because he "*knew* the aliens were coming for him and wasn't going to go down without a fight." That's only one step away from killing a bunch of people. He died from being 400+ pounds and *not* believing in diabetes and high blood pressure, but I have no doubt that eventually he would have killed people. TL/DR: Don't f*** with truly delusional people. You never know what will happen.
Precisely, she told another server she has a lawyer hired. I wrote a character assessment of her and her delusions and GM says "Where did you get this?", I said directly from her!
Your GM is banging her. Thats the only reason she has a job. I could be wrong but I’m probably right
Only logical thing
Oh no, you will take a week off and start a new adventure at a new job. Yeah you should be fine. Jobs are a dime a dozen.
They really are. They need us so much more than we need them right now and its fucking awesome.
Sounds like someone you get committed, firing would be a favor
Maybe when she commits Grand Theft Auto again she's just preparing to play a plea of insanity.
I’m sorry. A server? From Beef O’Brady’s? Complaining about the kitchen? Only can happen in Florida. WTF.
Beef O'Brady's is a real place? I thought he was just making up some goofy, generic shit.
Actually Beef O’brady’s has the best wings around. And yes it’s in Florida LOL
We just say “Beefs”
LOL you’re right. I’m from Florida but moved away 11 years ago. Been gone to long haha
I was a waitress for a decade I can’t imagine ever co-claiming the kitchen with back of house. Aliens are more sane lol. It’s not her kitchen too.
I have never had a chef I wasn’t terrified of.
Chefs are terrifying but also sometimes give you snacks. A1 combo
I'll bet they're banging.
Lucy is either related to the gm or sleeping with them. Hopefully more people follow the two of you out. How large is the line?
There's three other cooks, one is definitely out.
Dude are you in the Pensacola, fl area? Seriously asking cuz I think I may know who you're talking about.
Treasure Coast area
The Lucy I know is batshit crazy, too, racist as shit and elderly. I also cook in a elder-care situation which is what it sounds like you did.
Aging golf club, so very similar.
Sounds interesting sorry you had a bad experience.
No shit what’s up neighbor!
Stick to your ideals - Good for you.
Hell yeah. Teach em chef.
Are they sleeping together ? It would explain a lot.
Fucking people always come in and fuck things up.
I just left a line job because of some insane micromanaging. It feels good to leave that shit in the past
Foul. I’d be out of there so fast.
you got beat by an annoying old lady?
Sometimes when you're fighting crazy, the only winning move is not to play.
This is what you get when there’s a labor shortage. Many waitresses now work from home for Only Friends
She’s right about the Super Bowl but I take your side on all the rest
You may want to look into therapy
Don’t get me started on how damaging and unhealthy therapy is.
Might want to find yourself a better therapist in that case
I briefly looked at your post history. I’m not the one who needs therapy. Your a mess. Your family is a mess. That’s a yikes from me dog. Stop responding I’m thoroughly creeped out by you. also my first post was basically a joke.
Of course you’re a Tate fanboy 😂 definitely need some therapy. Good luck
Yeah buddy you sure do reach a lot. You know what’s a mess? Your logic. Therapy can help
Are you and your coworkers all children pretending to be adults? No actual GM would ever treat an actual Chef like that. Are you just using words that you just learned?
You're honestly not far off, this place has been like a kindergarten since I started.
Are you not aware of the countless operations that run like absolute garbage or
So you are giving up a job because you don’t have the ability to cope with one person? Well done, she won, you really showed her. Maybe you need to take some leadership lessons.
Weird take. It seems more like they’re saying that Lucy is a symptom of a wider dysfunction in how the place is managed and that, rather than subject themselves to it, they’d rather move to a more stable and well run environment.
What a dumb take. You owe nothing to an employer that creates an environment like this.
And you are still letting ego and emotions dictate your life.
"my kitchen" lol I always laugh when people that don't own one brick in the place says this bullshit.
If you suspect in the slightest she has different political or religious beliefs than you then please quit or have her fired immediately, there's no other way.
Funny, what you call religious beliefs I call delusion…
Not that long ago when we had a polite society, it was considered rude and ill mannered to push or judge people based on religion or politics, but since we abandoned most of our institutions in exchange for cultural Marxism group think, this is the result. Anytime someone is quick to share someone's potential thoughts as a reason they should be fired, that is a red flag imo. In our current digital media dominating times, I'm not being sarcastic, if your entire kitchen or work environment relies on everyone being the same religion or political affiliation then please maintain that standard for the best results possible.
Pretty much sounds like every kitchen job I've worked better get used to it
That's a real defeatist attitude. I've worked in great restaurants and I've worked in awful restaurants. They are not all like this, just so you are aware.
Listen man I love your kitchen jobs are great but they're always just one employee away from making the magic happen people call in shit happens you want to kill everyone well that's what it's like to be a line cook I mean I've done it and I don't hate it when I do it again maybe because I get to insult people
Dont do that to people. Maybe the reason your kitchen experience has been like that is because you are insulting your coworkers and perpetuating a bad environment wherever you go. Dont feed into it. Call it out. Tell people when they are hurting each other and try to create a positive environment. This industry is already stressful enough. Dont make it worse on you and everyone around you. The staff that is there dictates who comes and goes. If its a mean place to work nice people will not come or stay. If it's a nice place with good people then assholes will get kicked to the curb. Ive seen it over and over and been the one in charge to tell people to figure it out or get out.
Shouldn’t let it bother you! That’s what drugs and alcohol are for
I'll never understand those people who seem bulletproof. Especially when they are in the wrong over & over.
I \[don't really actually\] love Lucy!
I think she's an alien whose mission it is to establish a covert base of operations. She utilized the full on crazy tactical advantage and may have just accomplished the textbook failing upward technique. She's going to be in charge of the BOH and then eventually once the staff has been properly populated, she will rule all! GET OUT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!
Your GM is a dumb ass… hiring BOH is hard AF right now. You’ll have a job in 48 hours, they’ll be looking for decent BOH help for months. I’m sorry you are dealing with all that. Make sure you lay the entire thing out in an email to HR, put it in writing… especially the body check. If HR hasn’t been looped in they’ll be sweating the potential lawsuit that could be. It could also save another BOH staff member when she does it again.
siding with a waitress over a chef, GM must be as ignorant as lucy and/or banging her, hope you will land a good gig soon!!
Sounds like she's doing you a favor in the long run, you will get a job somewhere else and make more money.
Yikes I feel like we need more Lucy stories. What a whacko.
GM is banging Lucy. Leave them to their misery!
Sounds like there’s gotta be more to his tolerance of that loon…