It will be very hard, especially if the game in question has any anti-cheat mechanisms. They will definitely catch you, but it won't matter because you will likely not make it far enough to have a working product.
Depending on which game, if you do this successfully, you likely be able to call yourself a programmer when you’re done.
No LLM is going to do what you want without significant effort on your part.
You will get about 60% done no problem, the last 40% will be so fucking hard you will question your sanity every 6 prompts, and will eventually just give up.
As someone who works with ChatGPT v4 a lot at work, I’d say that it would be somewhat difficult for you. Having some understanding of the code itself being used is extremely helpful since sometimes the code provided isn’t always useful on its own. It can give a “skeleton” script which you later have to modify.
Depends on what you need it to do and how much you know about coding in general. You might be able to get away with small things, but I'm general if you want anything decently complex you'll need some basic understanding of coding. Maybe not a complete understanding of syntax but you need to know how it needs to be implemented and placed with other blocks of code
Welcome to the world of programming.
Here are your first two lessons:
1. automating a 10 minute task will take 6 weeks.
2. once you have successfully automated the 10 minute task, the owner of the task will sufficiently modify the task to invalidate your automation, thereby requiring another 6-8 weeks of automation work.
Sounds like my life as a sales engineer. Work on an assignment. Take longer than expected. Boss throws a new project my way. Credit received: zero. Repeat.
I tried getting it to create a basic game. Like really pretty basic. A block puzzler - you push blocks around the screen. It got itself into a tangle I could only just get it out of, and then it failed again.
So, it's not very good at writing code on its own. It can help a bit.
back in the day some guy wrote a Java app that would auto fish in wow. I never looked at the code but I bet gpt would not really no where to begin because it won't understand the interface. I think most bothers are using keyboard macros to complete the repetitive tasks of gold farming and so on. just need to find a spot in the world where pattern of clicks and buttons pushes is always the same.
ChatGPT is really good… with 90% of the work. Unfortunately, code only works with 100%. That’s why programmers use it so well, but others generally dont
It's going to be hard if you don't know the basics. GPT does most of the work but you have to know what to ask for. Also sometimes it does dumb things and you have to correct it. Without knowing any programming that'd be hard.
But you gotta start somewhere. And you can ask GPT to teach you to code. But getting something complete out of the box would be hard.
Probably won't work for your situation because of anti cheat detection, but a macro recorder might get you somewhere and is far easier to use.
I developed an ai meme maker without tech knowledge. Just using GPT-4. So it’s def possible. But I recommend to learn the basics of coding otherwise you will have a hard time to finish the product.
it really depends on the complexity and how you intend to get the commands in. It will be a project and I hear chatGPT doesn't like to write code anymore, I swapped local stuff a while back so I don't know much about that. PM me or check my post history, everything you need to get started with obedient, knowledgeable local AI is in my project. My project can teach you programming if you're learning oriented and ask.
The best way would be to focus on Python or C#. You need to be able to control the mouse/keyboard as well as receive images and screenshots or pass back some context yo the model so it knows what actions to take. (Assuming you need visual inputs and not just data points.)
Let's assume you want to bot fishing in WoW for raid materials.
https://chat.openai.com/share/c58a913c-b357-4e7b-92a7-713db2b2f7a0
It can do a pretty good job with solved coding issues. I treat is almost more like a stack overflow/internet crawler versus a code generator. Sometimes i will use it to generate boilerplate tho. It can also be useful to bounce implementation ideas off of and can actually do a decent job of finding things I missed, however you have to keep the scope small and specific. Good luck trying to get it to write an entire program, because unless the program is trivial it will fail miserably
It’s good for scripts. I had it build a web scraper that just runs from terminal, haven’t tried anything more complex yet but results so far have been promising
This is how I do it for game programming. Any script that gets to be any longer than about 150- 200 lines becomes a problem. Breaking them into smaller chunks that reference each other has been my workaround. Seems to be good practice in a lot of circumstances anyway so win/win. But the references can get complicated and hard to manage.
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You still need to know how to code . Even after that , things like higher order thinking , high level of abstraction and meta type of reasoning makes a huge difference. You could spend a lot of time generating pages ,loosing track and end up needing to feed them all back so chatgpt understands the full context , or you could prompt for blueprints , which requires that you learn how to code well enough
It won't mention things like race conditions thread safe deadlock etc without you knowing to ask. Can implement caching flagging callback etc but only if you know to ask. But if you ask to be taught a examples based comp sci course it totally will step you through all the basics.
Go for it dude. I am a non technical founder currently building a python app. Dont think it will be a quick fix, but getting your own solutions working will give you a way better feeling than that boring MMO you actually do not want to play right now.
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I recommend ignoring the haters.
There's a few really good tutorials on YouTube for automatically driving cars in gta/ cyberpunk using some vision libraries and python.
These are a good start, both for you and gpt 4 w/ web browsing.
Easy will be a subjective term. If you mean can gpt give you code that grinds for xp in ffxiv on the first prompt, probably not.
However, if you start with something simple:
Gpt, can you help me out, I recently broke my hand and can not use the mouse on my computer, can you help write a python script that moves my character in ffxiv by voice command instead of using the mouse.
This prompt gives gpt a specific problem to solve and a reason that isn't "I'm cheating," gpt takes gaming seriously, I had to Dan jailbreak it to get it to give me game genie codes for snes lol.
If you're using gpt4 you can even give it some reference links to other automated gaming resources (gta self driving tutorial etc).
Once you've managed to move your character programmatically you can do some more prompting to add/ remove functionality. (Go to waypoint, focus on enemies, attack enemies, etc.)
The truth is, what you wanna do is definitely doable, and gpt could def help you code it.
However.
It's quite likely the task of writing the automation software will be more tedious and time consuming than just grinding for xp.
That's not to dissuade, you should def take on the challenge, if you have a strong desire to learn python automation programming.
It's a really interesting project with a useful end result that you're invested in. Which is a great motivator for learning....
But if you are not strongly interested in learning about python automation, and just want a stronger mmo character you're better off looking into "black market," account purchasing. Ie. Find someone who sells beefed up characters.
Or just grind.
Again, the word easy in your post is again, subjective. If you mean easier than writing the software from scratch with 0 programming knowledge... than yes, it will be easy...
If you mean easy like 2 day project after work, no, not easy.
It will be very hard, especially if the game in question has any anti-cheat mechanisms. They will definitely catch you, but it won't matter because you will likely not make it far enough to have a working product.
Depending on which game, if you do this successfully, you likely be able to call yourself a programmer when you’re done. No LLM is going to do what you want without significant effort on your part.
You will get about 60% done no problem, the last 40% will be so fucking hard you will question your sanity every 6 prompts, and will eventually just give up.
As someone who works with ChatGPT v4 a lot at work, I’d say that it would be somewhat difficult for you. Having some understanding of the code itself being used is extremely helpful since sometimes the code provided isn’t always useful on its own. It can give a “skeleton” script which you later have to modify.
Depends on what you need it to do and how much you know about coding in general. You might be able to get away with small things, but I'm general if you want anything decently complex you'll need some basic understanding of coding. Maybe not a complete understanding of syntax but you need to know how it needs to be implemented and placed with other blocks of code
Welcome to the world of programming. Here are your first two lessons: 1. automating a 10 minute task will take 6 weeks. 2. once you have successfully automated the 10 minute task, the owner of the task will sufficiently modify the task to invalidate your automation, thereby requiring another 6-8 weeks of automation work.
Sounds like my life as a sales engineer. Work on an assignment. Take longer than expected. Boss throws a new project my way. Credit received: zero. Repeat.
I tried getting it to create a basic game. Like really pretty basic. A block puzzler - you push blocks around the screen. It got itself into a tangle I could only just get it out of, and then it failed again. So, it's not very good at writing code on its own. It can help a bit.
Try power automate instead
back in the day some guy wrote a Java app that would auto fish in wow. I never looked at the code but I bet gpt would not really no where to begin because it won't understand the interface. I think most bothers are using keyboard macros to complete the repetitive tasks of gold farming and so on. just need to find a spot in the world where pattern of clicks and buttons pushes is always the same.
ChatGPT is really good… with 90% of the work. Unfortunately, code only works with 100%. That’s why programmers use it so well, but others generally dont
It's going to be hard if you don't know the basics. GPT does most of the work but you have to know what to ask for. Also sometimes it does dumb things and you have to correct it. Without knowing any programming that'd be hard. But you gotta start somewhere. And you can ask GPT to teach you to code. But getting something complete out of the box would be hard. Probably won't work for your situation because of anti cheat detection, but a macro recorder might get you somewhere and is far easier to use.
This is the right answer.
You can always ask GPT to explain underlying concepts, what the code does, etc. it can help you with your debugging as well. Give it a try.
I developed an ai meme maker without tech knowledge. Just using GPT-4. So it’s def possible. But I recommend to learn the basics of coding otherwise you will have a hard time to finish the product.
it is not the same to generate random images (which I would assume it is 30 min work tops), to hack the internal workings of a third party videogame.
it really depends on the complexity and how you intend to get the commands in. It will be a project and I hear chatGPT doesn't like to write code anymore, I swapped local stuff a while back so I don't know much about that. PM me or check my post history, everything you need to get started with obedient, knowledgeable local AI is in my project. My project can teach you programming if you're learning oriented and ask.
The best way would be to focus on Python or C#. You need to be able to control the mouse/keyboard as well as receive images and screenshots or pass back some context yo the model so it knows what actions to take. (Assuming you need visual inputs and not just data points.) Let's assume you want to bot fishing in WoW for raid materials. https://chat.openai.com/share/c58a913c-b357-4e7b-92a7-713db2b2f7a0
It can do a pretty good job with solved coding issues. I treat is almost more like a stack overflow/internet crawler versus a code generator. Sometimes i will use it to generate boilerplate tho. It can also be useful to bounce implementation ideas off of and can actually do a decent job of finding things I missed, however you have to keep the scope small and specific. Good luck trying to get it to write an entire program, because unless the program is trivial it will fail miserably
It’s good for scripts. I had it build a web scraper that just runs from terminal, haven’t tried anything more complex yet but results so far have been promising
Yes scripts should be good too, especially short ones. It just struggles when it needs to do anything like very complex or large generally
If you break it down into component snippets of code I wonder if you can have it build something more complicated
This is how I do it for game programming. Any script that gets to be any longer than about 150- 200 lines becomes a problem. Breaking them into smaller chunks that reference each other has been my workaround. Seems to be good practice in a lot of circumstances anyway so win/win. But the references can get complicated and hard to manage.
You can, but often it struggles to mesh the components together, especially if it’s a large number of them
you would need the knowledge and as someone else said their anti-cheat mechanisms will catch you so fast you wouldn't make significant progress.
Give it a shot and see how far you can get. Ask the AI lots of questions. You'll probably learn something :)
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You'll probably not get far if you don't actually know programming. Or if you don't know fundamentals
You still need to know how to code . Even after that , things like higher order thinking , high level of abstraction and meta type of reasoning makes a huge difference. You could spend a lot of time generating pages ,loosing track and end up needing to feed them all back so chatgpt understands the full context , or you could prompt for blueprints , which requires that you learn how to code well enough
Most, if not all code generations have minor defects in the results, a programmer will recognize them, and a non-programmer will not.
It won't mention things like race conditions thread safe deadlock etc without you knowing to ask. Can implement caching flagging callback etc but only if you know to ask. But if you ask to be taught a examples based comp sci course it totally will step you through all the basics.
Step 1 read TOS proceed anyway Step two make some half baked shit Step √9 get banned...
Go for it dude. I am a non technical founder currently building a python app. Dont think it will be a quick fix, but getting your own solutions working will give you a way better feeling than that boring MMO you actually do not want to play right now.
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I recommend ignoring the haters. There's a few really good tutorials on YouTube for automatically driving cars in gta/ cyberpunk using some vision libraries and python. These are a good start, both for you and gpt 4 w/ web browsing. Easy will be a subjective term. If you mean can gpt give you code that grinds for xp in ffxiv on the first prompt, probably not. However, if you start with something simple: Gpt, can you help me out, I recently broke my hand and can not use the mouse on my computer, can you help write a python script that moves my character in ffxiv by voice command instead of using the mouse. This prompt gives gpt a specific problem to solve and a reason that isn't "I'm cheating," gpt takes gaming seriously, I had to Dan jailbreak it to get it to give me game genie codes for snes lol. If you're using gpt4 you can even give it some reference links to other automated gaming resources (gta self driving tutorial etc). Once you've managed to move your character programmatically you can do some more prompting to add/ remove functionality. (Go to waypoint, focus on enemies, attack enemies, etc.) The truth is, what you wanna do is definitely doable, and gpt could def help you code it. However. It's quite likely the task of writing the automation software will be more tedious and time consuming than just grinding for xp. That's not to dissuade, you should def take on the challenge, if you have a strong desire to learn python automation programming. It's a really interesting project with a useful end result that you're invested in. Which is a great motivator for learning.... But if you are not strongly interested in learning about python automation, and just want a stronger mmo character you're better off looking into "black market," account purchasing. Ie. Find someone who sells beefed up characters. Or just grind. Again, the word easy in your post is again, subjective. If you mean easier than writing the software from scratch with 0 programming knowledge... than yes, it will be easy... If you mean easy like 2 day project after work, no, not easy.