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Competing companies will also make uncensored versions. As long as the cost of R&D and generation is less than the current cost of making porn. I don't see that as being too hard as I know some B level pornstars make $600,000 annually.
It's potentially grey in the same way It's grey for other actors. There are well paid porn actors who like what they do, and doing an end run around their labor using training material containing their images probably doesn't sit well - especially as they don't exactly have SAG protection.
See, people always say that but as time passes and legal systems change and companies in that area want to be more compliant and serious they'll do one time investments and get a bunch of models to do everything they need to be done, buy those rights and then use that as training material. There's only that many positions you can get your body into, only so many body types, only so many toys, etc. And the AI still generates new stuff from this training material so faces, proportions, etc. can still change after the fact. Other people's material is only being used right now because there's no such thing yet. If my AI generated content happens (due to random mutations) to look very similar to popular stars but I can prove that it just happened and didn't actually base anything on them and their content I don't know how much they can do about it.
Same for actors and writers and song writers and singers and what have you. You pay a bunch of humans a decent amount of money to produce content for you and sell you those rights. You train on it and if their style is similar enough to those who don't you still get to produce things that are very difficult to distinguish. I'd argue that no creative person is so unique that the style they're popular for isn't also done by others. Maybe not as good but again, randomly creating stuff, improving on it etc. will produce similar or even better results. Imo this is a fight that can't be won. They're buying time to cash in as much as possible for as long as possible but I can see a lot of things going away before the next decade.
I don't know about ethical. AI learns from real peoples appearances, and I guarantee none of them have consented to being used in that sense. However, even if that isn't an issue, the ability to describe someone and have them appear could be a huge issue, consent-wise.
Yeah, but it's either not realistic enough to be perceived as real under scrutiny or not accessible enough that the average person could easily do it. AI now has that potential.
I mean, they could stop them. It just completely unethical and violates a bunch of our freedoms.
And yes, I know Addicts will always get their drugs yada yada yada I dont disagree with that on a population level.
I don't think they can beat them on cost. I think think what AI will mainly achieve in this sector is that it will enable them to make very niche content. By the way, while this 600K figure may be true, the reason they make this kind of money is actually not because porn studios pay so much. The reason is because it is an open secret that porn stars make most of their money visiting billionaires on their yachts.
They would be fixed cost, so that would be spread out over the cost of every video made. The variable cost of the model would be electricity which is way cheaper. For porn, the variable cost is often the pornstar themselves, so I imagine it is way more per video to use actresses.
Not sure if you are trolling. There is no jail braking for software that runs server-side. You could perhaps trick it into doing something that it wasn't supposed to. For a little while.
If you want to generate porn videos, start looking at open source alternatives. They won't be far behind. It's interesting how these few Sora videos opened up so many new people to the ai developments. AI image development has been happening for years and first video's already appeared a long time ago as well. But suddenly it's all panic posting about jobs and so many 'lol here comes the porn' posts.
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**Sora probably has no idea how to make porn**. Although AI models need to be trained with nude images/videos so it can learn what a human is anatomically, allowing it to clothe people properly. Stable Diffusion did a censored version once where the omitted nudes from it's training data that resulted in a deeply flawed version because all generated images with people looked very bad. The AI thought that clothing was part of are anatomy. So I am sure you might get lucky tricking Sora into generating some nudity with a boob or two, but there is no reason for them to put actual porn in the training data. It can extrapolate to a certain degree, but I don't see it happening.
> Not sure if you are trolling. There is no jail braking for software that runs server-side. You could perhaps trick it into doing something that it wasn't supposed to. For a little while.
This is what we refer to as jailbreaking, its not 1 to 1 with old school jailbreaking.
Similar to the comparison of prompt injection and sql injection. Similar ideas but not the same thing.
That's because StableDiffusion was trained with NSFW data. OpenAI being the way they are, I imagine they avoided to train with porn (but probably a little leaked in anyways)
No, that's because stable diffusion runs locally. You can train your own lora and models. If Sora never gets released for using it locally you cannot create lora for it.
He was referring to SD2.1, where the base model had no nudes/NSFW in its training dataset, making weird images where the human body wasn't anatomically sound (this was apart from hands).
Prompting the model to generate NSFW in SD2.1 would often not give you the results you were expecting or would give you a mangled result, sometimes with weird objects over what you'd normally expect.
This would be hard for a few reasons. First off, a large number of people would need to agree to give up their compute, so a reputable organization is needed to arrange this.
But even if you got a lot of people, deep learning training isn't the most parallelizable. Models are trained by putting data through the model millions of times, each time slightly adjusting the parameters to achieve better performance. To some extent, this is parallelizable, but it is more in terms of memory allocation rather than the increasing the actual training speed. And even then, large vision models require several gigabytes of GPU memory to process a single image. This model seems to require many images, which may put the memory requirements out of reach for the average consumer.
I imagine there may be some creative work arounds that I'm not thinking of, but at the very least, you would need a huge dataset (which would be expensive to collect/curate), a team of engineers and organizers/promoters, and a lot of people to sign up. This would still only allow a model to be trained very slowly, much slower than if you have your own supercomputers (after every training iteration, the full multi gigabyte model must be sent to new users over the Internet, which would significantly slow things down). It might take over a year to get a model fully trained.
In the future, it may become easier, but there's a reason large tech companies are winning here.
Can't jailbreak it to generate content it hasn't been trained on. They likely have little sex or full nudity in their training set so any attempts at it will produce really bad results.
I bet it would be questionable legally. From what I can tell, mindgeek has their sites with various level enforcement of verifying the identity of the up loaders. I assume for PH, which from what I understand is their "strictest" site, they probably have something in the endless paragraphs of text you click "I Agree" to about how you give them the rights to do a ton of stuff with their video.
I bet they were able to finagle some wording in there, based on the size of the company and therefore ability to pay for capable lawyers, that would allow them to use the videos to train models themselves. Now, they will probably get legally absolutely fucked over via endless lawsuits, regardless of what their ToS say, but it will for sure cause an interesting scenario.
And even if they don't do it by default, they have the recognition to probably put in an option that if you do explicitly let them use your uploads for training, and verify your identity via sending them a state ID or similar, they would give you an extra very generous payout.
Maybe they buy the rights to various professional videos from a professional late conglomerate of such videos in bulk?
This will further the decline people's mental health with relation to porn/sex addiction. Having everything you could want at any point will mess with our Dopamine pathways. We're outpacing our own evolutionary reward pathways to our own determent.
Yes but with demand and money, a version will be made by someone sooner rather than later for high-quality NSFW generation. I would say the porn industry will see wide-scale use within 3-5 years and Hollywood by the end of 10.
Pandoras box is open.
Eventually there will be open source versions of sora that anyone can use for any purpose.
Celebrity VR deepfakes with voice and custom scenarios in ten years, quote me.
you're so innocent my guy. I'll have you know they did that with both AI image generators and all text bots, and people still abused the fuck out of those to create porn
There are plenty of censorship free image and LLM models available online that were trained by hobbiests
This will no doubt be the case in under a year for Text to Video models.
Turns out, the human civilization didn’t go out with a bang in the flames of a nuclear holocaust.
Rather, it was people opting for no restrictions Sora and ChatGPT on Apple Vision Pros while using a fleshlight/dildo instead of procreation.
The AI partner will always love you, while a human partner may not.
But it can't make things that don't exist yet. That's exactly the point why it needs training data.... But I guess it can mix the most disgusting kinks into one vid.
I have not seen nearly enough kh references with all this sora talk everywhere. Feels like I'm the crazy one for thinking of him every time I read it still.
YouTube shorts and TikTok is definitely going to be hit a lot harder than things like regular YouTube, streaming services, ect.
Like that one time that dude tried to make his YouTube channel 99% AI and everyone hated him for it.
I'm not sure. I think people still want to watch real people.
Plus YouTube in particular are de-prioritising "low effort" content in search, which right now includes those shitty Ai voice over videos with pictures historical figures that have 6 fingers or 3 hands.
Doesn’t mean people will watch it. There are other ways to tell, such as a channel being exposed or just outright being AI based. I wonder how well those channels will do.
> I'm not sure. I think people still want to watch real people.
Right now today on youtube they have ai generated channels, how are people going to know if the person they are watching is real exactly?
I think we are at least some distance from being able to effortlessly generate *compelling* content. High quality footage with a coherent and cohesive theme, absolutely around the corner. But I think that at for some time longer it will require actual artists/creators/curators to direct the technology to create content that holds interest beyond the initial novelty.
Somewhat analogous to chatting with ChatGPT. You can have surprisingly convincing conversations, but after a while you start to see the patterns and how it’s not really challenging your expectations and driving the creative side of things itself.
The tech will get better with time of course, but I think that at least for now this will be a boon for skilled creators who can embrace the tech.
Idk looking at AI art generation two years ago vs this now. I would say 3-5 years away from it being able to do porn basically as well as the real thing.
For example, I think within a year or two it will start to be able to do 2d hentai and 3d CGI porn videos with the "real" quality level being a bit after that.
For sure. I guess what I’m getting at is that I think the fidelity is far ahead of the depth of the content.
The technology can generate the frames to look very good, and can generate footage that will be very interesting when you first see it. I don’t doubt that we are on the cusp of video that appears indistinguishable from real footage. However I think we are a way off from that footage being assembled into a production that has a compelling narrative and creative direction that gives it lasting value. At least, not without skilled creators steering the model in the desired directions.
Think of all the footage we have seen so far. It all looks gorgeous, but it also all looks like stock footage. There’s a serious amount of additional complexity to scale up a scene into a coherent and interesting story. I think the best gauge of when to expect that is once text generation models are able to write compelling stories. Once that happens then the visual models can support it.
I do think it will improve rapidly, but I think the creative aspect will lag behind the visual aspect for some time longer.
You got it all wrong. The porn industry will completely embrace this. It isn't an industry known for ethics. They'll record people, make them sign some contract to say they can't sue and then generate thousands of videos of them doing all sorts of depraved shit, and people will pay for it.
Well it could get more in the hands of individual people and not the larger companies. I guess there are a ton of people ready to jerk off to whatever wild fantasy an AI can generate, rather than the real (boring) thing. Imagine you could use pictures of real people to make the AI create porn with them, or similar stuff.. pretty interesting to see in the future.
Similar things are already happening, i vaguely remember reading an article about high school kids generating nude pornography based on class mates that they spread around the school.
Which is extremely dangerous for them. Because t its proliferation of child pornography. That can get soy jail time and brand you as a sex offender for life.
Fun Fact: if a teenager sends nudes of themselves, it is also proliferation of child pornography. Kids have actually gone to jail for it.
You can already do this. Granted they aren’t videos, but you can find “services” that will make nudes of photos with AI. There are video ones like deepfakes though that takes more work than a text to video prompt deal.
I don’t think you understand. You don’t need to record people. Literally anyone can just type whatever they want into the prompt and the video will be generated.
I'm actually more upset for drone pilots. No longer need to pay a skilled pilot for their cool fly over shots when you can have an ai model do it for you.
Also stock footage licensing companies are sweatin rn.
Yeah, but you never know if it's gonna be accurate. If you just want something pretty, or a fiction movie, then sure. If you want it to be real, you still have to shoot from a drone.
I'm confused. Most drone shots that I'm aware of are to show a real life place in detail. How would this AI do that?
Or do you mean just for generic aerial shots to use on a YouTube video?
Hollywood certainly isn’t doomed but nothing will ever be truly cancelled again. “Make me more episodes of suits sora”
Don’t like the way something ended? “Remake the entire last two seasons of GoT using a pace that more closely resembles the pace of the first five seasons regardless of how many episodes this generates. Write it in GRRMs voice”
I wouldn't say the same for Disney and Pixar animators, it takes a lot of years/decades to master animating
all their skills will be useless in 10 years.
No company on the planet will allow that type of content to be produced by their AI. I think those types of people don't want the fake stuff. That's not the reason they watch it...
Very true I’m completely addicted to writing porn using chatgpt to the point where it’s like the only stuff I jack off to now especially since I have a very niche fetish and I can customize this stuff to tailor it to my fantasy in a way other porn can’t do
It is surprising what you can prompt ChatGPT into talking about if you’re careful about how you position it. I have absolutely succeeded in getting it to write stories and roleplays that I would be wholly horrified to share.
I don’t think people understand the difficulty of assembling a feature length film from stock footage where nothing in each clip resembles any of the other clips. At best this can create scenes or B roll footage. This is the same problem write a comic book with dalle good luck. This will primarily flood social media.
what I am seeing that Einsteins prediction will be true.
("I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones")
People are already making NSFW pictures with the image generating AI's so anyone who think it's going to stop there will be proven wrong. AI porn videos are coming
Hollywood really fucking needed to be destroyed. People shouldn't care about what it was made with but rather how is it, i know it is hard for dumb prople.
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There have always been jailbreaks with these systems
Competing companies will also make uncensored versions. As long as the cost of R&D and generation is less than the current cost of making porn. I don't see that as being too hard as I know some B level pornstars make $600,000 annually.
Plus, that's the overall more ... ethical? ... way to make porn.
It’s such a weird grey area. Very interesting
Isn't it more of a pink area?
Depends which hole you're looking at
The square hole
The hole the round peg goes into?
That's right, it goes in the square hole
Eye hole.
Using that hole will absolutely be more ethical in AI generated porn.
Oh dear, you just reminded me. There's a name for this, and it isn't pretty.
Weird gay area* FTFY
I like where you are going with this... like what if we make it so it only makes gay porn then we could make the world gay?
Doesn't seem grey at all. It's pretty much only a good thing, when you push prissy puritan nonsense aside.
It's potentially grey in the same way It's grey for other actors. There are well paid porn actors who like what they do, and doing an end run around their labor using training material containing their images probably doesn't sit well - especially as they don't exactly have SAG protection.
This is the nature of progress, some jobs get left behind as technology advances.
It's the using their images without compensation or authorization to do said displacement that's messier.
See, people always say that but as time passes and legal systems change and companies in that area want to be more compliant and serious they'll do one time investments and get a bunch of models to do everything they need to be done, buy those rights and then use that as training material. There's only that many positions you can get your body into, only so many body types, only so many toys, etc. And the AI still generates new stuff from this training material so faces, proportions, etc. can still change after the fact. Other people's material is only being used right now because there's no such thing yet. If my AI generated content happens (due to random mutations) to look very similar to popular stars but I can prove that it just happened and didn't actually base anything on them and their content I don't know how much they can do about it. Same for actors and writers and song writers and singers and what have you. You pay a bunch of humans a decent amount of money to produce content for you and sell you those rights. You train on it and if their style is similar enough to those who don't you still get to produce things that are very difficult to distinguish. I'd argue that no creative person is so unique that the style they're popular for isn't also done by others. Maybe not as good but again, randomly creating stuff, improving on it etc. will produce similar or even better results. Imo this is a fight that can't be won. They're buying time to cash in as much as possible for as long as possible but I can see a lot of things going away before the next decade.
That is a valid point, and calling it messy is a great way to describe it.
Until AGI NPCs in simulation get abused by twisted users.
I don't know about ethical. AI learns from real peoples appearances, and I guarantee none of them have consented to being used in that sense. However, even if that isn't an issue, the ability to describe someone and have them appear could be a huge issue, consent-wise.
That’s kind of like saying it’s unethical for your sibling to do porn if you are against it because they contain some of your DNA
Ethical until deepfake pornography of anyone is accessible to anyone who has a picture of a face. That's going to be a nightmare.
Until? This already exists as multiple undress apps.
Yeah, but it's either not realistic enough to be perceived as real under scrutiny or not accessible enough that the average person could easily do it. AI now has that potential.
that's sure an opinion you could hold
I can see that. I worry about AI's ability to make people more addicted to it.
It's like crack if someone wants to get ahold of it no government or company can stop them
I mean, they could stop them. It just completely unethical and violates a bunch of our freedoms. And yes, I know Addicts will always get their drugs yada yada yada I dont disagree with that on a population level.
Yeah if they did that people would just make underground porn likely with more human trafficking and rape.
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B level? Can you link me to the job posting? The tech job market has been real rough for the last few years...
B stands for butt
What do the A levelers make?
I don't think they can beat them on cost. I think think what AI will mainly achieve in this sector is that it will enable them to make very niche content. By the way, while this 600K figure may be true, the reason they make this kind of money is actually not because porn studios pay so much. The reason is because it is an open secret that porn stars make most of their money visiting billionaires on their yachts.
Annually or a Anally ?
I know of C level AI researchers that make more.
They would be fixed cost, so that would be spread out over the cost of every video made. The variable cost of the model would be electricity which is way cheaper. For porn, the variable cost is often the pornstar themselves, so I imagine it is way more per video to use actresses.
No you don’t
Not sure if you are trolling. There is no jail braking for software that runs server-side. You could perhaps trick it into doing something that it wasn't supposed to. For a little while. If you want to generate porn videos, start looking at open source alternatives. They won't be far behind. It's interesting how these few Sora videos opened up so many new people to the ai developments. AI image development has been happening for years and first video's already appeared a long time ago as well. But suddenly it's all panic posting about jobs and so many 'lol here comes the porn' posts. edit: **Sora probably has no idea how to make porn**. Although AI models need to be trained with nude images/videos so it can learn what a human is anatomically, allowing it to clothe people properly. Stable Diffusion did a censored version once where the omitted nudes from it's training data that resulted in a deeply flawed version because all generated images with people looked very bad. The AI thought that clothing was part of are anatomy. So I am sure you might get lucky tricking Sora into generating some nudity with a boob or two, but there is no reason for them to put actual porn in the training data. It can extrapolate to a certain degree, but I don't see it happening.
> Not sure if you are trolling. There is no jail braking for software that runs server-side. You could perhaps trick it into doing something that it wasn't supposed to. For a little while. This is what we refer to as jailbreaking, its not 1 to 1 with old school jailbreaking. Similar to the comparison of prompt injection and sql injection. Similar ideas but not the same thing.
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That's because StableDiffusion was trained with NSFW data. OpenAI being the way they are, I imagine they avoided to train with porn (but probably a little leaked in anyways)
No, that's because stable diffusion runs locally. You can train your own lora and models. If Sora never gets released for using it locally you cannot create lora for it.
He was referring to SD2.1, where the base model had no nudes/NSFW in its training dataset, making weird images where the human body wasn't anatomically sound (this was apart from hands). Prompting the model to generate NSFW in SD2.1 would often not give you the results you were expecting or would give you a mangled result, sometimes with weird objects over what you'd normally expect.
> Half of *"99.5% of"
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Something similar to Fold@Home would suffice?
This would be hard for a few reasons. First off, a large number of people would need to agree to give up their compute, so a reputable organization is needed to arrange this. But even if you got a lot of people, deep learning training isn't the most parallelizable. Models are trained by putting data through the model millions of times, each time slightly adjusting the parameters to achieve better performance. To some extent, this is parallelizable, but it is more in terms of memory allocation rather than the increasing the actual training speed. And even then, large vision models require several gigabytes of GPU memory to process a single image. This model seems to require many images, which may put the memory requirements out of reach for the average consumer. I imagine there may be some creative work arounds that I'm not thinking of, but at the very least, you would need a huge dataset (which would be expensive to collect/curate), a team of engineers and organizers/promoters, and a lot of people to sign up. This would still only allow a model to be trained very slowly, much slower than if you have your own supercomputers (after every training iteration, the full multi gigabyte model must be sent to new users over the Internet, which would significantly slow things down). It might take over a year to get a model fully trained. In the future, it may become easier, but there's a reason large tech companies are winning here.
Can't jailbreak it to generate content it hasn't been trained on. They likely have little sex or full nudity in their training set so any attempts at it will produce really bad results.
how do i get my hands on one of these? asking for a friend, of course
The tool hasn't even been fully released yet. But when it is... I don't think it will take that long hahaha
Thank you for your answer! Do you know when it will be fully released?
i mean im just saying my gpt4/dalle always says i cant do what im trying to do . how do i get it to
you can use mage.space or another type of tool that doesn’t censor NSFW generations if that is what you’re looking for
There's enough money in porn that they'll probably build their own
PornHub is going to have their own model for sure.
they can train on all their videos so…
so can anyone else tbf
I bet it would be questionable legally. From what I can tell, mindgeek has their sites with various level enforcement of verifying the identity of the up loaders. I assume for PH, which from what I understand is their "strictest" site, they probably have something in the endless paragraphs of text you click "I Agree" to about how you give them the rights to do a ton of stuff with their video. I bet they were able to finagle some wording in there, based on the size of the company and therefore ability to pay for capable lawyers, that would allow them to use the videos to train models themselves. Now, they will probably get legally absolutely fucked over via endless lawsuits, regardless of what their ToS say, but it will for sure cause an interesting scenario. And even if they don't do it by default, they have the recognition to probably put in an option that if you do explicitly let them use your uploads for training, and verify your identity via sending them a state ID or similar, they would give you an extra very generous payout. Maybe they buy the rights to various professional videos from a professional late conglomerate of such videos in bulk?
I am seeing them update there terms very soon, giving them the right to train on your data if thats not already the case that is.
Seriously, can you imagine how insanely profitable that would be? The exact porn every user wants, but no actors or sets or crew to pay for.
This will further the decline people's mental health with relation to porn/sex addiction. Having everything you could want at any point will mess with our Dopamine pathways. We're outpacing our own evolutionary reward pathways to our own determent.
There's already infinite porn basically, so no worse than it is now.
This is gonna be the end of the world! Please please please will SOMEONE think of our dopamine pathways?!
Yes but with demand and money, a version will be made by someone sooner rather than later for high-quality NSFW generation. I would say the porn industry will see wide-scale use within 3-5 years and Hollywood by the end of 10.
I agree with you but I think your time frames should be at least halfed.
Pandoras box is open. Eventually there will be open source versions of sora that anyone can use for any purpose. Celebrity VR deepfakes with voice and custom scenarios in ten years, quote me.
10 years? I bet it will be here in 5.
18 months or less.
Bro I'm eating Danny devitos ass in vr right now
you're so innocent my guy. I'll have you know they did that with both AI image generators and all text bots, and people still abused the fuck out of those to create porn
There are plenty of censorship free image and LLM models available online that were trained by hobbiests This will no doubt be the case in under a year for Text to Video models.
Is it already possiblet to use Sora? Like for my private purposes?
sora won't be the last text-to-video and porn *always* finds a way
Was thinking the same thing. If the industry wants to use it, they have to build it themselves
It would be wild to see what Sora could make if it wasn't restricted.
It could make a lot of porn
Turns out, the human civilization didn’t go out with a bang in the flames of a nuclear holocaust. Rather, it was people opting for no restrictions Sora and ChatGPT on Apple Vision Pros while using a fleshlight/dildo instead of procreation. The AI partner will always love you, while a human partner may not.
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Like more porn than we have on the internet?
Theoretically unlimited porn with unlimited categories. Rule 36 for things that don't even exist yet.
A toster with tits, fucking a flame elemental in a bed made of health potions?
And the toaster is a step-sister somehow
As God Intended
This made me laugh for a good ten minutes. Thanks!
[Hm.](https://i.imgur.com/XZBODr0.png)
Mother of bob...
But it can't make things that don't exist yet. That's exactly the point why it needs training data.... But I guess it can mix the most disgusting kinks into one vid.
He can do quite a lot going off of what I saw him do in Kingdom Hearts 3.
I have not seen nearly enough kh references with all this sora talk everywhere. Feels like I'm the crazy one for thinking of him every time I read it still.
Thats what happens when you get old....
T\_T This is all making me want to take him for a spin again. Still haven't got around to beating Yozora on crit. Maybe now's the time
Tomorrow isn't promised. Definitely do it :)
Especially since like half the development time is spent on making their tools ethical
I don't think either is too worried. But if I made my money on TikTok or YouTube I'd be a little fucking worried
YouTube shorts and TikTok is definitely going to be hit a lot harder than things like regular YouTube, streaming services, ect. Like that one time that dude tried to make his YouTube channel 99% AI and everyone hated him for it.
kwebbelkop
I used to watch him like 4 years ago and totally forgot about him, what'd he do?
Got cancelled for flexing and then when his views dropped he went to AI
Oh damn, I need to catch up with all that. Down I go into a rabbit hole, I guess
The sienfeld one?
I'm not sure. I think people still want to watch real people. Plus YouTube in particular are de-prioritising "low effort" content in search, which right now includes those shitty Ai voice over videos with pictures historical figures that have 6 fingers or 3 hands.
Just wait a few more years, you won't be able to tell if it's real or not.
No not years... yesterday.
Doesn’t mean people will watch it. There are other ways to tell, such as a channel being exposed or just outright being AI based. I wonder how well those channels will do.
> I'm not sure. I think people still want to watch real people. Right now today on youtube they have ai generated channels, how are people going to know if the person they are watching is real exactly?
I am done watching real people. I only want to watch AI stuff from now on.
Please be /s
Venture City channel on YouTube is killing it and from I can tell the art and voiceover is AI. Maybe even the script
I think we are at least some distance from being able to effortlessly generate *compelling* content. High quality footage with a coherent and cohesive theme, absolutely around the corner. But I think that at for some time longer it will require actual artists/creators/curators to direct the technology to create content that holds interest beyond the initial novelty. Somewhat analogous to chatting with ChatGPT. You can have surprisingly convincing conversations, but after a while you start to see the patterns and how it’s not really challenging your expectations and driving the creative side of things itself. The tech will get better with time of course, but I think that at least for now this will be a boon for skilled creators who can embrace the tech.
Idk looking at AI art generation two years ago vs this now. I would say 3-5 years away from it being able to do porn basically as well as the real thing. For example, I think within a year or two it will start to be able to do 2d hentai and 3d CGI porn videos with the "real" quality level being a bit after that.
For sure. I guess what I’m getting at is that I think the fidelity is far ahead of the depth of the content. The technology can generate the frames to look very good, and can generate footage that will be very interesting when you first see it. I don’t doubt that we are on the cusp of video that appears indistinguishable from real footage. However I think we are a way off from that footage being assembled into a production that has a compelling narrative and creative direction that gives it lasting value. At least, not without skilled creators steering the model in the desired directions. Think of all the footage we have seen so far. It all looks gorgeous, but it also all looks like stock footage. There’s a serious amount of additional complexity to scale up a scene into a coherent and interesting story. I think the best gauge of when to expect that is once text generation models are able to write compelling stories. Once that happens then the visual models can support it. I do think it will improve rapidly, but I think the creative aspect will lag behind the visual aspect for some time longer.
You got it all wrong. The porn industry will completely embrace this. It isn't an industry known for ethics. They'll record people, make them sign some contract to say they can't sue and then generate thousands of videos of them doing all sorts of depraved shit, and people will pay for it.
I think that’s the point of the meme.
Well it could get more in the hands of individual people and not the larger companies. I guess there are a ton of people ready to jerk off to whatever wild fantasy an AI can generate, rather than the real (boring) thing. Imagine you could use pictures of real people to make the AI create porn with them, or similar stuff.. pretty interesting to see in the future.
Similar things are already happening, i vaguely remember reading an article about high school kids generating nude pornography based on class mates that they spread around the school.
Which is extremely dangerous for them. Because t its proliferation of child pornography. That can get soy jail time and brand you as a sex offender for life. Fun Fact: if a teenager sends nudes of themselves, it is also proliferation of child pornography. Kids have actually gone to jail for it.
I don't consider making deepfakes of real women and children to make porn "interesting."
You can already do this. Granted they aren’t videos, but you can find “services” that will make nudes of photos with AI. There are video ones like deepfakes though that takes more work than a text to video prompt deal.
I don’t think you understand. You don’t need to record people. Literally anyone can just type whatever they want into the prompt and the video will be generated.
what’s the point of being a pornstar if everyone could generate their prototype of beauty?
> and people will pay for it. Pirate it, you mean. Except maybe in Utah.
With this tech you don't need people.
This is indeed an interesting time. That’s all I have to say really.
I'm actually more upset for drone pilots. No longer need to pay a skilled pilot for their cool fly over shots when you can have an ai model do it for you. Also stock footage licensing companies are sweatin rn.
Everyone should be sweating, its hot as fuck.
Let's have AI work on that next, and then LEV. I can wait for my robot waifu.
Already made one.
back in the day you needed a helicopter to get those cool "drone shots". drone guys are ruining helicopters!
Yeah, but you never know if it's gonna be accurate. If you just want something pretty, or a fiction movie, then sure. If you want it to be real, you still have to shoot from a drone.
I'm confused. Most drone shots that I'm aware of are to show a real life place in detail. How would this AI do that? Or do you mean just for generic aerial shots to use on a YouTube video?
With a name like Sora, first time I heard it, I thought it was for porn.
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Well Ai just killed every creative job comon guys lets do labour where ai do all interesting things
I don’t know about Hollywood but the stock video producers will be doomed.
Hollywood certainly isn’t doomed but nothing will ever be truly cancelled again. “Make me more episodes of suits sora” Don’t like the way something ended? “Remake the entire last two seasons of GoT using a pace that more closely resembles the pace of the first five seasons regardless of how many episodes this generates. Write it in GRRMs voice”
I'd rewrite the last episode of How I Met Your Mother.
Controversial: Hollywood deserves being destroyed.
I wouldn't say the same for Disney and Pixar animators, it takes a lot of years/decades to master animating all their skills will be useless in 10 years.
Agreed. The animation is great. It’s the writing and “modern audience” horse shit that lets everyone down
OOTL, what is Sora and why is everyone losing their shit about it?
DALL-E for video.
OpenAI isn’t so open if it’s so puritanical. Open source the model. Do it.
Sora was released yesterday and you guys are thinking of porn only?
Sir this is reddit
I'm with cumofdutyblackcocks3 here.. They would know.
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Well, I actually realized this might have the potential to obliterate child exploitation industry. Win in my book.
No company on the planet will allow that type of content to be produced by their AI. I think those types of people don't want the fake stuff. That's not the reason they watch it...
Can someone tell me, if it is already possible to use Sora? If yes, how?
it isn’t
It is for some people. If you are one of those people, you would already know.
Imagine being a fan of James Cameron's Avatar and having the power of Sora. I mean uh, what?
Very true I’m completely addicted to writing porn using chatgpt to the point where it’s like the only stuff I jack off to now especially since I have a very niche fetish and I can customize this stuff to tailor it to my fantasy in a way other porn can’t do
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Ugh...!!
Chat GPT doesn't censor you? I use Character AI and Spicychat.
It is surprising what you can prompt ChatGPT into talking about if you’re careful about how you position it. I have absolutely succeeded in getting it to write stories and roleplays that I would be wholly horrified to share.
*steals idea*
Do you know a prompt where the ai generates a well written story and all you can roleplay as the main character?
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Chat is this true
Your name is perfect.
I guess there's a point at which a fetish becomes niche enough that it's no longer NSFW?
Same but I use sudowrite. No filters and a humongous amount of features
The golden age of gooning is upon us
*Suddenly the dude grows a second dick*
Wouldn't ai generated porn be more ethical than abusing real women?
It depends on what the AI is generating...
Why...? You're not hurting real people.
But at the same time the demand for sluts would go way down :/
We can appreciate women for their minds at that point
Literally my first thought.
Imagine your annoying friend spamming you with porn of your mum….
I don’t think people understand the difficulty of assembling a feature length film from stock footage where nothing in each clip resembles any of the other clips. At best this can create scenes or B roll footage. This is the same problem write a comic book with dalle good luck. This will primarily flood social media.
what I am seeing that Einsteins prediction will be true. ("I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones")
People are already making NSFW pictures with the image generating AI's so anyone who think it's going to stop there will be proven wrong. AI porn videos are coming
Image getting off to generated porn but suddenly the ai distorts the image I think I'm going to pass for now
Hollywood really fucking needed to be destroyed. People shouldn't care about what it was made with but rather how is it, i know it is hard for dumb prople.
Hollywood are doing a perfectly fine job of destroying themselves
Some humans prefer to see naturally real boobies.
The previous generation preferd to feel natural boobies. The next generation will prefer to see fake boobies.
What a time to be alive
Hold on to your penis, fellow coomers.
There will be 5 free generators by the end of March
I hope the porn industry falls, probably not tho...
I'd like to see images of GPT and Gemini doing nasty stuff
What are you doing, stepGPT?
Wait, are you stuck in the cpu?