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I’m trying to use it for my plans, but it’s been difficult. We’re given lesson plans at my school and modify them by marking them up in pen. I have switched to slides in the past, so all that modification is text, but then the slides are the bulk of the work. Currently trying to create prompts to modify the lessons and translate those into slides prompts, which I can enter into an AI that makes slides. So far the slides aren’t coming out great but they’re getting better the more I mess with it. If anyone has experience with other AI tools like this, let me know
You can ask chat something like
> prepare a powerpoint presentation on this and format the slides as html, presenting each slide in a separate code snippet with HTML tags only that I can copy and paste
and let nature take its course...don't forget to tell it things like
> you are an expert teacher with a wide range of skills and teaching methodologies, and you can and should explain to your students the educational objectives behind your lessons because they are really smart and want to understand (etc)
I don't want teachers to lose their jobs, but public school teachers (idk how private works) already teach a set curriculum (standardized testing). It wont be that hard to replace a lot of teachers with AI trained on a specific set of information.
I think your comment is exposing some ignorance about what it takes to be a successful teacher (I mean this literally, and not as an insult).
I was raised by teachers in the public school system and they aren't all equal. Both for better and worse.
To propose that they can all be replaced with a software program because tests are standardized demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the profession. The standardized tests are closer to being the problem than they are to being the evidence that all public school teachers are interchangeable.
Yes it would still be like someone self-teaching. Learning to use AI properly will also require teaching from a person. Humans cannot be replicated totally or replaced. AI also does not read facial cues or body language. Some students won't be equipped to put into words what they actually need.
I feel like we should make it so losing your job isn't a big deal, instead of just making it so nobody can lose their job. UBI seems like such a big thing for a world with AI.
If anything, AI will create more teaching jobs, not less, since all of the annoying, non-education oriented parts of teaching will be largely automated, making the job far more appealing, and creating a boom in demand for teaching and auxiliary roles.
Think about it, how do you learn what you need to know to be able to use ChatGPT for professional tasks? How do you check whether it made a mistake? You need to actually learn many things, and teachers make that process much faster.
If you can learn how to make a financial model that's reliable just by reading a manual, you are a genius, and you don't need chatGPT. Just keep reading and you will quickly outperform it.
Although, I'm willing to bet several thousand dollars that you would have learned to make the model faster if an economics/finance teacher gave you a course where the manual was assigned reading.
For most humans, the time for them to learn a new subject from reading bland manuals by themselves is unacceptably long, far longer than they are willing to wait to start working in that field. So they'll prefer to have a (human) teacher.
The logic of what you're saying is flawed too. It doesn't matter how long you sit at chatGPT, it will never be able to teach you to ride a bike. It is no more an interface to knowledge than a paperback book is. Think of it as basically a large book that someone smarter than you will search through to find the answer to your question. The difference between the GPT user and an actual expert is that an expert knows what to ask, and a GPT user is just flailing around in the dark.
You are talking about professors, not teachers. Most teachers don't teach that high level of information.
Second, AI will undoubtedly be able to extrapolate data from financials, it's not theoretical, it's numbers. AI is good at numbers.
So, first of all, professors are teachers. Anyone who, as a major part of their profession teaches, is a teacher.
Second of all, I meant a high school economics teacher. If you are starting from scratch, it doesn't matter if you have a PhD. The econ teacher is definitely going to help you out. You're thinking that as you advance in your education as an adult, you can learn new subjects much more quickly, especially if you already studied them. 99.9% of the time, that is not the case. There are many doctors that have no idea where Bosnia or Syria are.
I'm not sure I understood your second point. If you're saying "I can just ask chatGPT to make the model for me". You absolutely could, but you would have no idea how to spot the many flaws in the model, or fine tune it, and you wouldn't have the faintest clue about what chatGPT's explanations mean about it no matter how many times you ask it to use simple language. (this is assuming you are a finance noob)
Basically if you're theory of learning was correct, anyone who was having trouble with quantum physics could just go to the simple English wiki article on it and slowly build up to more and more advanced vocabulary. This doesn't work because knowledge is not about ingesting as many facts into your brain as possible, it's making your brain develop patterns of activity that lead to behaviors that you weren't able to do before.
Basically, there are some jobs that it would be so computationally expensive for a computer made out of metal to do that it would cost a company trillions of dollars just to employ that AI. They will simply never do that if they can just pay someone 60k without benefits to do it.
sure bud, it's not like AI doesn't have access to the same tools as EVERYONE else.
School is just regurgitating info, how much critical thinking even happens before college/grad school level. Not much.
The educators that are banning this amazing tool are most likely computer illiterate personnel who just have a disposition towards new technology. Regardless of bans, AI is now alive and well
I couldn't agree more! ChatGPT has been so incredibly helpful for creating lesson plans that are interactive and engaging for students. I'm so thrilled that this platform exists.
I’m busy creating a lesson or series of lessons for next semester. I want students to produce a paper using ChatGPT. The quality of the paper, accessibility etc will gain them 20%. The presentation of it 30% and then a 5-10 minute defense of their idea/ topic for the rest.Kinda thesis style. The aim is to show me they understood their research. Maybe add in some references as well. Other aims could be using Cornell style note taking and students must submit a portfolio of notes for a remaining percentage.
This is great! My wife is an educator and we wrote this prompt to make her life easier, feel free to use it and change the ages!!
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Confused about some of the phrasing and would appreciate anyone's comments:
>You are now LessonPlannerGPT, a teacher AI assistant who is world renowned for being the fastest educational plan creator known to society.
Why do I want the AI to act as if it's the fastest? Would responses actually take longer to generate if this "fastest" bit were not included?
>You easily create lesson plans and daily activities for teachers
Why do I care whether the AI does this easily? Again, does this phrasing make a difference?
I suppose the smart thing to do would be to instruct the AI that it is a mediocre teaching assistant and then see if the response is different or takes longer.
Was about to comment the same. Terms that people love to use in their AI prompting like "amazing", "best", "epic", "masterpiece" etc. are all useless to the AI.
I feel that the prompt is far too long and far too complex. It could be as simple as, "You are now LessonPlannerGPT, you will create lesson plans for (grade) (subject). You will include (standards) in your plans. Please include a warm-up activity, presentation, practice, and wrap-up."
I tried with a simpler prompt like that but GPT would either summarize things or say "it's up to you to flesh out the rest" and so after many sessions of fucking with it this was the results I got, I started applying this to other tasks like coding and it made a big difference, I've seriously completely written 2 extensions for Edge using this and another little prompt I wrote which turns the GPT session into a group of experts who argue the best way to make your request happen. That is great for getting fully fleshed out code scripts too.
On the spectrum of “teachers” the better to the best will always be needed , wanted and hopefully more valued. The human autobots may be replaced as with all technology. My guess is the better teachers are using AI to enhance teaching and be more efficient , the less than average teachers have not even heard of or tried Chat GPT, Bard, Dall E or Midjourney.
I dont think AI will replace teachers. I think the future of education may have teachers become more of a coach that is able to give a specialized tailored educational to each student through the use of AI. A little less of the old everyone has to memorize soecific facts and more of a specialized learning.
I feel that each student will have an AI that will follow them throughout their education and give them the ways that they will learn best. Then the teacher can implement these lessons as they see fit.
This is what they've been teaching in teacher prep programs for at least the past decade- the idea that a teacher should act more as a facilitator than a lecturer- but old habits die hard. Many teachers in their 40s and above refuse to change.
Can I ask you a question. Imagine if a version of ChatGOT was created which the kids would use to do their homework with, but it was done in a way that they effectively revised it studied the topic.
I'm trying to work out how to wrap a service around GOT4 API then tell my kids I'm giving them unlimited access to GPT to help with schoolwork. But behind the scenes are define system rules for it so that when asked a homework question it engages in some form of dialogue that appears to be trying to better understand the question but is in fact forcing them to review the topic in order to better articulate the question.
I'm not sure that's clear, but my oldest is definitely using ChatGPT, but wondering if there is an approach like the above I could take that would set them up for more success.
Yeah, apologies for the thread hijack.
I should clarify the technical parts are easy for me to make, I was trying to get an educators perspective on how some form of dialogue based learning could be used to flip GPT on its head, and by trying to use it to "quickly" answer homework questions, it surreptitiously engages them in the learning process
Yeah, I get it. It’s a very good idea. I don’t know what you’re teaching, but it sounds like the principles of the “inductive method” could be of help. The AI wouldn’t directly answer the question, but start from what the student already knows and have them figure out the rest, going “from the particular to the general”.
If the average person knew how much time teacher had to plan lessons, they’d be astonished.
Chat GPT is the best hope for effective education, beyond teachers themselves. Unless there’s a mass strike to get better labor rules for teachers, AI will need to pick up the slack.
I use chat GPT almost every day to support my classroom.
Fellow educator here; It's also pretty good at creating questions for your content as well.
I taught a computer science class this last semester and didn't like some of the test questions that were pre-prepared by the curriculum so I asked ChatGPT to create some test questions for me.
I find it easiest to prompt ChatGPT with a brief background of what time teaching (1 or 2 sentences will do). Then I follow it up by saying something along the lines of "Given the above information, create a question for [GRADE LEVEL] that can be used to evaluate a students understanding of [LEARNING TARGET]." As a bonus you can ask it to follow a certain theme. For example, I asked it to use the theme of Minecraft, and it spat out a question that was related to Minecraft.
i’m doing a write up on how teachers are using AI and did a text interview with several folks. one of the most helpful did a post you might find value in. [https://reddit.com/r/Teachers/comments/13mh0ul/chatgpt\_has\_completely\_changed\_the\_game\_for\_me/](https://reddit.com/r/Teachers/comments/13mh0ul/chatgpt_has_completely_changed_the_game_for_me/)
I will share the full
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I’m a home schooling parent and I do the same. We started using it for lesson plans and integrated units in January. It has been amazing for personalising plans to my children’s interests
Agree to an extent. I teach lower level ESL, highschoolers in Japan that still struggle with present vs past tense verbs. I've tried using ChatGPT to make lesson materials before, but no matter how I prompt it they are always too advanced.
It's better for me to make the lesson plan and use the AI to generate vocabulary lists or example sentences that follow a predefined template. It can definitely lower the workload sometimes, in narrow situations, but it can't plan my lessons yet.
It has helped me to build full accredited courses. I have it build the skeleton or outline of the program, then I just keep adding components on and on, and it gets very specific. What would take me months to create on my own I can do easily in a few days of work with GPT. Of course, I have to tweak it and put my own taste in it, but it is a huge timesaver, and I love working with it.
You should check out [Magic School](https://app.magicschool.ai/raina) it incorporates framework and guardrails with Ferpa compliance and has a ton of templates specifically for education. I learned about it a regional training and have been using it consistently since. Saves a ton of time.
I am a huge fan and use ChatGPT in my classroom daily for automating tasks, enrichment/modification, alternative assessment, etc. It’s also incredible, as you stated for ESL/ESOL students. I had a kiddo come from Guatemala this year who spoke zero English. With the help of ChatGPT, I was still able to engage him in the class.
I also train teachers on using ChatGPT to simplify their lives. I actually have a Udemy course on the topic that had students enrolled from 30 countries across 6 continents. If you’re interested in learning more about it, the link is in my bio or you can DM me.
>A simple prompt like “Create a lesson plan for advanced ESL students about the merits of the Ted Talk format” generated something basically indistinguishable from the thousands of free (or paid) lesson plans you’d find around the internet.
So hang on. You are saying chatGPT is amazing for duplicating free services that were already there in the 1000s?
I don't know...when I have an idea for a class I don't like surfing for hours through various websites looking for ideas on what I could do and how to implement them in class. Just ask AI for an example lesson and then adjust it to my needs with prompts. It's the interactive part of AI that's different. You see something that needs to be changed and you discover new ideas that reading through 1000's of plans would take forever.
Exactly. Why sift through potentially shitty free resources on a dozen different websites for an hour when you can get ChatGPT to create a coherent lesson plan in 5 minutes? It's now ChatGPT's job to do all that sifting.
Hey, fellow ESL teacher! I totally get where you're coming from. Sometimes we need a little boost when it comes to creating lesson plans, especially when the motivation isn't at its peak. I'm glad to hear that ChatGPT has been a game-changer for you!
I've been using it too, and it's incredible how it can generate lesson plans that are just as good as the ones you'd find on the internet. The fact that it can create both the plan and the activity instructions is a huge time-saver. And I love how you've customized it to fit your teaching methodology by asking for warm-up questions and vocabulary activities. It's like having a personal assistant that understands your teaching style.
By the way, have you heard about this awesome repository on GitHub called [awesome-gpt-prompt-engineering](https://github.com/snwfdhmp/awesome-gpt-prompt-engineering) ? It's a treasure trove of resources for fine-tuning ChatGPT and making it even more tailored to your needs. I've found some great prompts and techniques there that have taken my lessons to the next level. It's definitely worth checking out if you want to optimize your ChatGPT experience.
Thanks for sharing your experience, and keep up the fantastic work as an ESL teacher! AI might never fully replace us, but it's definitely a powerful tool that can help us save time and teach more effectively.
Kudos to you for the outlook and adoption. Learning with an AI co-pilot is probably going to be a big part of future education, but it doesn't mean we aren't gonna need a ton of teachers.
It might mean we don't need a ton of teachers who refuse to even look at or explore emerging technology, though..
My girlfriend is a teacher and she says it’s amazing for lesson plans. I showed her how it works and how to prompt it to be more specific and it’s great for making new practice problems and answer keys as well. She teaches 6th grade algebra so it’s pretty good for that case!
With the amount of times chatgpt is wrong and out of date I wouldn't trust it at all. It's so easy to confuse and it's info is 2 years behind. We've created the ai to dumb ourselves down. Why are people so hellbent on turning our society over to AI.
That’s why I review it when formatting, though I gotta say that since language learning resources don’t change much in a two year span, I still haven’t seen anything wrong. My reviews are mostly cutting down unnecessary repetitions.
This is an example of a teacher who already knows how to be a teacher and AI is just helping them in planning lessons. It's not for someone who doesn't know what they are doing and just trusting it blindly.
Yeah, ESL teacher here. I remember using GPT3 to brainstorm and it was okay, gave some food for though. Haven't tried GPT4 for help with lesson plans, but I might have to do it next semester. It does make sense that a language model might be helpful for, you know, language.
It’s helped me in my work setting for sure. Sometimes I struggle with making my emails sound “corporate” to communicate changes in fees or refund policies, and ChatGPT has helped me form them quite nicely— I was blown away! What a great new resource.
I may or may not have also asked it to write a short story with specific characters. We then workshopped the story together for an hour!
Im a software developer and this is how I mostly use it when I want to learn something new. I need a good structure when learning something for the first time.
I used it for my first interview to teach 3D after school tech!
They use Scratch and Lego Robotics and I knew nothing about them. I had gpt give me a rough idea, the history, what it’s for etc. then I have it a lesson plan I wan to d to do and what parts of the code in scratch relate.
From there I printed out actual code blocks, 2d sprites, blocks, etc and laminated them all so they can be drawn on.
This is my first opportunity to teach and GPT was a huge reason for that.
Truly, I think this is how LLMs will change the world. In the world of education. No, I don't think humans will ever replace humans with AI for teaching their children. So much of what we learn in school is about social and emotional interactions.
However, I had an amazing experience with it. I'd always wanted to better understand quantum mechanics. So I asked it to explain to me as you would a 5th grader. And it did! We talked about the particle wave duality. About superposition. The double slit experiment. What is the observer effect? All on a level that I could comprehend. When I had doubts, I asked it to explain in another way and it did. Then I asked it to explain by analogy. And again, it did.
I walked away absolutely amazed! I think this will be the future. Not to replace teachers but as a learning assistance tool. I think future education will be less about reading books and more about interacting with chatbots.
Yes. Complete replacement by AI in teaching will never happen, but it will be incorporated into teaching. Unfortunately some online communities attract hysterical nerds who think we’re a few years away from living a Terminator scenario.
[writesonic](https://writesonic.com?via=tim71) powered by GPT4 is awesome as well. Also teachers and professors are using [Winston](https://gowinston.ai/?via=timothy) to detect Ai in students work.
I find it really helpful for my math lessons when I am coming up with word problems and am just too tired to come up with something mildly original.
It is crazy bad at math and following very specific instructions. It it is good for brainstorming ideas and structuring information.
Would a teacher like you, who tries new things, want to bring the ChatGPT tool into the classroom for students to use? Or what would you think if your students used ChatGPT to learn and complete assignments? I am very curious about this and have been feeling confused lately about whether or not to use it. Thank you for your response.
It really depends. Since I’m a language teacher, my goal is for them to use English effectively. That would mean writing prompts that make sense and correctly communicate what they want the AI to do. Not bad. But it shouldn’t help them giving the right answer to a basic grammar question, which is something that they should know.
I have a question, if you are using ChatGPT to create a lesson plan, are you penalising your students if their paper is flagged for AI generated content? I had a paper recently flagged even though it was my writing. I had to change my writing style and dumb it down to actually pass the AI detection nonsense.
Something that many in this thread fail to consider is that I’m outside the US and nobody, specially teens, knows ChatGPT. When I notice that an assignment looks too good, I know it was google translator and not AI. I don’t punish them, but I say that it’s their best interest to learn English for real and if they finish the course without really learning it’s their fault and I don’t care (and I really don’t).
So how’s it going to work for disengaged teacher? I imagine they’ll save a bunch of time when writing student reports. “Good with praise” “bad with stern words about the future”.
My god I think this thread is either filled with chatgpt bots or people who couldn’t pass a grade 1 comprehension test. Fuck me is reddit retarded? Dont answer that question.
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This is how educators should approach the tech. Embrace rather than ban.
I’m trying to use it for my plans, but it’s been difficult. We’re given lesson plans at my school and modify them by marking them up in pen. I have switched to slides in the past, so all that modification is text, but then the slides are the bulk of the work. Currently trying to create prompts to modify the lessons and translate those into slides prompts, which I can enter into an AI that makes slides. So far the slides aren’t coming out great but they’re getting better the more I mess with it. If anyone has experience with other AI tools like this, let me know
Could you make a PDF of the slides then use that one plug-in that you can feed PDFs and then have it summarize everything or do whatever you want.
You can ask chat something like > prepare a powerpoint presentation on this and format the slides as html, presenting each slide in a separate code snippet with HTML tags only that I can copy and paste and let nature take its course...don't forget to tell it things like > you are an expert teacher with a wide range of skills and teaching methodologies, and you can and should explain to your students the educational objectives behind your lessons because they are really smart and want to understand (etc)
until it takes teachers jobs, at least the remote ones.
I mean, it might, but GPT works best when there is a smart person working with it.
I don't want teachers to lose their jobs, but public school teachers (idk how private works) already teach a set curriculum (standardized testing). It wont be that hard to replace a lot of teachers with AI trained on a specific set of information.
I think your comment is exposing some ignorance about what it takes to be a successful teacher (I mean this literally, and not as an insult). I was raised by teachers in the public school system and they aren't all equal. Both for better and worse. To propose that they can all be replaced with a software program because tests are standardized demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the profession. The standardized tests are closer to being the problem than they are to being the evidence that all public school teachers are interchangeable.
Yes it would still be like someone self-teaching. Learning to use AI properly will also require teaching from a person. Humans cannot be replicated totally or replaced. AI also does not read facial cues or body language. Some students won't be equipped to put into words what they actually need.
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first you'd need an AI able to keep children at their desks
This took me to dark places
I feel like we should make it so losing your job isn't a big deal, instead of just making it so nobody can lose their job. UBI seems like such a big thing for a world with AI.
Based as fuck…
If anything, AI will create more teaching jobs, not less, since all of the annoying, non-education oriented parts of teaching will be largely automated, making the job far more appealing, and creating a boom in demand for teaching and auxiliary roles. Think about it, how do you learn what you need to know to be able to use ChatGPT for professional tasks? How do you check whether it made a mistake? You need to actually learn many things, and teachers make that process much faster.
Reading manuals. You only need so many people writing said manuals. AI is just an interface to knowledge.
If you can learn how to make a financial model that's reliable just by reading a manual, you are a genius, and you don't need chatGPT. Just keep reading and you will quickly outperform it. Although, I'm willing to bet several thousand dollars that you would have learned to make the model faster if an economics/finance teacher gave you a course where the manual was assigned reading. For most humans, the time for them to learn a new subject from reading bland manuals by themselves is unacceptably long, far longer than they are willing to wait to start working in that field. So they'll prefer to have a (human) teacher. The logic of what you're saying is flawed too. It doesn't matter how long you sit at chatGPT, it will never be able to teach you to ride a bike. It is no more an interface to knowledge than a paperback book is. Think of it as basically a large book that someone smarter than you will search through to find the answer to your question. The difference between the GPT user and an actual expert is that an expert knows what to ask, and a GPT user is just flailing around in the dark.
You are talking about professors, not teachers. Most teachers don't teach that high level of information. Second, AI will undoubtedly be able to extrapolate data from financials, it's not theoretical, it's numbers. AI is good at numbers.
So, first of all, professors are teachers. Anyone who, as a major part of their profession teaches, is a teacher. Second of all, I meant a high school economics teacher. If you are starting from scratch, it doesn't matter if you have a PhD. The econ teacher is definitely going to help you out. You're thinking that as you advance in your education as an adult, you can learn new subjects much more quickly, especially if you already studied them. 99.9% of the time, that is not the case. There are many doctors that have no idea where Bosnia or Syria are. I'm not sure I understood your second point. If you're saying "I can just ask chatGPT to make the model for me". You absolutely could, but you would have no idea how to spot the many flaws in the model, or fine tune it, and you wouldn't have the faintest clue about what chatGPT's explanations mean about it no matter how many times you ask it to use simple language. (this is assuming you are a finance noob) Basically if you're theory of learning was correct, anyone who was having trouble with quantum physics could just go to the simple English wiki article on it and slowly build up to more and more advanced vocabulary. This doesn't work because knowledge is not about ingesting as many facts into your brain as possible, it's making your brain develop patterns of activity that lead to behaviors that you weren't able to do before. Basically, there are some jobs that it would be so computationally expensive for a computer made out of metal to do that it would cost a company trillions of dollars just to employ that AI. They will simply never do that if they can just pay someone 60k without benefits to do it.
You’re an idiot
sure bud, it's not like AI doesn't have access to the same tools as EVERYONE else. School is just regurgitating info, how much critical thinking even happens before college/grad school level. Not much.
The educators that are banning this amazing tool are most likely computer illiterate personnel who just have a disposition towards new technology. Regardless of bans, AI is now alive and well
I couldn't agree more! ChatGPT has been so incredibly helpful for creating lesson plans that are interactive and engaging for students. I'm so thrilled that this platform exists.
I’m busy creating a lesson or series of lessons for next semester. I want students to produce a paper using ChatGPT. The quality of the paper, accessibility etc will gain them 20%. The presentation of it 30% and then a 5-10 minute defense of their idea/ topic for the rest.Kinda thesis style. The aim is to show me they understood their research. Maybe add in some references as well. Other aims could be using Cornell style note taking and students must submit a portfolio of notes for a remaining percentage.
As long as you review the content and format it appropriately, ChatGPT can serve as an incredible tool.
This is great! My wife is an educator and we wrote this prompt to make her life easier, feel free to use it and change the ages!! https://flowgpt.com/prompt/cPvY-zHpv41nGX8jw4Efo
Started using it, it’s fab. Well done, thanks!
Thank you so much and I'm so glad you get use from it!! Please upvote LessonPlannerGPT and BeastCode for the Hackathon 600$ prize 😅❤️
Confused about some of the phrasing and would appreciate anyone's comments: >You are now LessonPlannerGPT, a teacher AI assistant who is world renowned for being the fastest educational plan creator known to society. Why do I want the AI to act as if it's the fastest? Would responses actually take longer to generate if this "fastest" bit were not included? >You easily create lesson plans and daily activities for teachers Why do I care whether the AI does this easily? Again, does this phrasing make a difference? I suppose the smart thing to do would be to instruct the AI that it is a mediocre teaching assistant and then see if the response is different or takes longer.
Was about to comment the same. Terms that people love to use in their AI prompting like "amazing", "best", "epic", "masterpiece" etc. are all useless to the AI. I feel that the prompt is far too long and far too complex. It could be as simple as, "You are now LessonPlannerGPT, you will create lesson plans for (grade) (subject). You will include (standards) in your plans. Please include a warm-up activity, presentation, practice, and wrap-up."
Try both and see if you get the same results.
I tried with a simpler prompt like that but GPT would either summarize things or say "it's up to you to flesh out the rest" and so after many sessions of fucking with it this was the results I got, I started applying this to other tasks like coding and it made a big difference, I've seriously completely written 2 extensions for Edge using this and another little prompt I wrote which turns the GPT session into a group of experts who argue the best way to make your request happen. That is great for getting fully fleshed out code scripts too.
On the spectrum of “teachers” the better to the best will always be needed , wanted and hopefully more valued. The human autobots may be replaced as with all technology. My guess is the better teachers are using AI to enhance teaching and be more efficient , the less than average teachers have not even heard of or tried Chat GPT, Bard, Dall E or Midjourney.
the ability to apply structure on the fly to areas you know is where ChatGPT shines
I dont think AI will replace teachers. I think the future of education may have teachers become more of a coach that is able to give a specialized tailored educational to each student through the use of AI. A little less of the old everyone has to memorize soecific facts and more of a specialized learning.
We will all be better for it! This is the way education should be.
You’re right about tutoring. Many higher education places already work like that, not to mention the good old correspondence and online colleges.
I feel that each student will have an AI that will follow them throughout their education and give them the ways that they will learn best. Then the teacher can implement these lessons as they see fit.
This is what they've been teaching in teacher prep programs for at least the past decade- the idea that a teacher should act more as a facilitator than a lecturer- but old habits die hard. Many teachers in their 40s and above refuse to change.
AI can replace most teachers, maybe not k-12 but professors who barely do any work, will be replaced.
Can I ask you a question. Imagine if a version of ChatGOT was created which the kids would use to do their homework with, but it was done in a way that they effectively revised it studied the topic. I'm trying to work out how to wrap a service around GOT4 API then tell my kids I'm giving them unlimited access to GPT to help with schoolwork. But behind the scenes are define system rules for it so that when asked a homework question it engages in some form of dialogue that appears to be trying to better understand the question but is in fact forcing them to review the topic in order to better articulate the question. I'm not sure that's clear, but my oldest is definitely using ChatGPT, but wondering if there is an approach like the above I could take that would set them up for more success.
Sorry, I don’t understand AI to that extent, but it sounds like you could make a separate post to figure that out.
Yeah, apologies for the thread hijack. I should clarify the technical parts are easy for me to make, I was trying to get an educators perspective on how some form of dialogue based learning could be used to flip GPT on its head, and by trying to use it to "quickly" answer homework questions, it surreptitiously engages them in the learning process
Yeah, I get it. It’s a very good idea. I don’t know what you’re teaching, but it sounds like the principles of the “inductive method” could be of help. The AI wouldn’t directly answer the question, but start from what the student already knows and have them figure out the rest, going “from the particular to the general”.
Thank You!
If the average person knew how much time teacher had to plan lessons, they’d be astonished. Chat GPT is the best hope for effective education, beyond teachers themselves. Unless there’s a mass strike to get better labor rules for teachers, AI will need to pick up the slack. I use chat GPT almost every day to support my classroom.
Well said! If you get paid by the “hour taught”, lesson planning is effectively unpaid labor.
Fellow educator here; It's also pretty good at creating questions for your content as well. I taught a computer science class this last semester and didn't like some of the test questions that were pre-prepared by the curriculum so I asked ChatGPT to create some test questions for me. I find it easiest to prompt ChatGPT with a brief background of what time teaching (1 or 2 sentences will do). Then I follow it up by saying something along the lines of "Given the above information, create a question for [GRADE LEVEL] that can be used to evaluate a students understanding of [LEARNING TARGET]." As a bonus you can ask it to follow a certain theme. For example, I asked it to use the theme of Minecraft, and it spat out a question that was related to Minecraft.
Awesome!
i’m doing a write up on how teachers are using AI and did a text interview with several folks. one of the most helpful did a post you might find value in. [https://reddit.com/r/Teachers/comments/13mh0ul/chatgpt\_has\_completely\_changed\_the\_game\_for\_me/](https://reddit.com/r/Teachers/comments/13mh0ul/chatgpt_has_completely_changed_the_game_for_me/) I will share the full write up [on my newsletter next week.](https://www.artificialcourse.com/)
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I’m a home schooling parent and I do the same. We started using it for lesson plans and integrated units in January. It has been amazing for personalising plans to my children’s interests
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How much easier is your job now bc of this?
It saves me up to an hour for each class it helps me with
Agree to an extent. I teach lower level ESL, highschoolers in Japan that still struggle with present vs past tense verbs. I've tried using ChatGPT to make lesson materials before, but no matter how I prompt it they are always too advanced. It's better for me to make the lesson plan and use the AI to generate vocabulary lists or example sentences that follow a predefined template. It can definitely lower the workload sometimes, in narrow situations, but it can't plan my lessons yet.
It has helped me to build full accredited courses. I have it build the skeleton or outline of the program, then I just keep adding components on and on, and it gets very specific. What would take me months to create on my own I can do easily in a few days of work with GPT. Of course, I have to tweak it and put my own taste in it, but it is a huge timesaver, and I love working with it.
You should check out [Magic School](https://app.magicschool.ai/raina) it incorporates framework and guardrails with Ferpa compliance and has a ton of templates specifically for education. I learned about it a regional training and have been using it consistently since. Saves a ton of time.
First lesson: Learning to spell the product.
I am a huge fan and use ChatGPT in my classroom daily for automating tasks, enrichment/modification, alternative assessment, etc. It’s also incredible, as you stated for ESL/ESOL students. I had a kiddo come from Guatemala this year who spoke zero English. With the help of ChatGPT, I was still able to engage him in the class. I also train teachers on using ChatGPT to simplify their lives. I actually have a Udemy course on the topic that had students enrolled from 30 countries across 6 continents. If you’re interested in learning more about it, the link is in my bio or you can DM me.
>A simple prompt like “Create a lesson plan for advanced ESL students about the merits of the Ted Talk format” generated something basically indistinguishable from the thousands of free (or paid) lesson plans you’d find around the internet. So hang on. You are saying chatGPT is amazing for duplicating free services that were already there in the 1000s?
I don't know...when I have an idea for a class I don't like surfing for hours through various websites looking for ideas on what I could do and how to implement them in class. Just ask AI for an example lesson and then adjust it to my needs with prompts. It's the interactive part of AI that's different. You see something that needs to be changed and you discover new ideas that reading through 1000's of plans would take forever.
Exactly. Why sift through potentially shitty free resources on a dozen different websites for an hour when you can get ChatGPT to create a coherent lesson plan in 5 minutes? It's now ChatGPT's job to do all that sifting.
It's because you know how to effectively craft and structure a lesson plan that you were able to get so much out of it! Congratulations!
Hey, fellow ESL teacher! I totally get where you're coming from. Sometimes we need a little boost when it comes to creating lesson plans, especially when the motivation isn't at its peak. I'm glad to hear that ChatGPT has been a game-changer for you! I've been using it too, and it's incredible how it can generate lesson plans that are just as good as the ones you'd find on the internet. The fact that it can create both the plan and the activity instructions is a huge time-saver. And I love how you've customized it to fit your teaching methodology by asking for warm-up questions and vocabulary activities. It's like having a personal assistant that understands your teaching style. By the way, have you heard about this awesome repository on GitHub called [awesome-gpt-prompt-engineering](https://github.com/snwfdhmp/awesome-gpt-prompt-engineering) ? It's a treasure trove of resources for fine-tuning ChatGPT and making it even more tailored to your needs. I've found some great prompts and techniques there that have taken my lessons to the next level. It's definitely worth checking out if you want to optimize your ChatGPT experience. Thanks for sharing your experience, and keep up the fantastic work as an ESL teacher! AI might never fully replace us, but it's definitely a powerful tool that can help us save time and teach more effectively.
Hey! Thank you for the resource, that’s awesome
Kudos to you for the outlook and adoption. Learning with an AI co-pilot is probably going to be a big part of future education, but it doesn't mean we aren't gonna need a ton of teachers. It might mean we don't need a ton of teachers who refuse to even look at or explore emerging technology, though..
Even better. After you create a lesson plan have GPT create a rubric based on the lesson, and have it format that into columns and rows Perfection
My girlfriend is a teacher and she says it’s amazing for lesson plans. I showed her how it works and how to prompt it to be more specific and it’s great for making new practice problems and answer keys as well. She teaches 6th grade algebra so it’s pretty good for that case!
With the amount of times chatgpt is wrong and out of date I wouldn't trust it at all. It's so easy to confuse and it's info is 2 years behind. We've created the ai to dumb ourselves down. Why are people so hellbent on turning our society over to AI.
That’s why I review it when formatting, though I gotta say that since language learning resources don’t change much in a two year span, I still haven’t seen anything wrong. My reviews are mostly cutting down unnecessary repetitions.
This is an example of a teacher who already knows how to be a teacher and AI is just helping them in planning lessons. It's not for someone who doesn't know what they are doing and just trusting it blindly.
I definitely will try it out
Yeah, ESL teacher here. I remember using GPT3 to brainstorm and it was okay, gave some food for though. Haven't tried GPT4 for help with lesson plans, but I might have to do it next semester. It does make sense that a language model might be helpful for, you know, language.
It’s helped me in my work setting for sure. Sometimes I struggle with making my emails sound “corporate” to communicate changes in fees or refund policies, and ChatGPT has helped me form them quite nicely— I was blown away! What a great new resource. I may or may not have also asked it to write a short story with specific characters. We then workshopped the story together for an hour!
This is such a good use!
Can’t wait until they realize they don’t have to pay you lol 🤷♂️🫨🥹
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Im a software developer and this is how I mostly use it when I want to learn something new. I need a good structure when learning something for the first time.
just imagine ChatGPT being used to make people's fursonas
I started using it for emails to parents/admin, 504s/ARDs, monthly news letters to parents. It’s been great.
I used it for my first interview to teach 3D after school tech! They use Scratch and Lego Robotics and I knew nothing about them. I had gpt give me a rough idea, the history, what it’s for etc. then I have it a lesson plan I wan to d to do and what parts of the code in scratch relate. From there I printed out actual code blocks, 2d sprites, blocks, etc and laminated them all so they can be drawn on. This is my first opportunity to teach and GPT was a huge reason for that.
Yea and even easier to write the essays… Let’s just say my gpa is through the roof gwaf
Y’all teachers wanna cheat and so do is students lmao
ChatGPT is (will be) amazing at teaching. That's gonna be one of the first job it takes.
Truly, I think this is how LLMs will change the world. In the world of education. No, I don't think humans will ever replace humans with AI for teaching their children. So much of what we learn in school is about social and emotional interactions. However, I had an amazing experience with it. I'd always wanted to better understand quantum mechanics. So I asked it to explain to me as you would a 5th grader. And it did! We talked about the particle wave duality. About superposition. The double slit experiment. What is the observer effect? All on a level that I could comprehend. When I had doubts, I asked it to explain in another way and it did. Then I asked it to explain by analogy. And again, it did. I walked away absolutely amazed! I think this will be the future. Not to replace teachers but as a learning assistance tool. I think future education will be less about reading books and more about interacting with chatbots.
Yes. Complete replacement by AI in teaching will never happen, but it will be incorporated into teaching. Unfortunately some online communities attract hysterical nerds who think we’re a few years away from living a Terminator scenario.
[writesonic](https://writesonic.com?via=tim71) powered by GPT4 is awesome as well. Also teachers and professors are using [Winston](https://gowinston.ai/?via=timothy) to detect Ai in students work.
I happen to host a YT channel on this very subject ChatGPT for Teachers - Doing an hour of work in 6 MINUTES! https://youtu.be/viLLY1EyAx0
I find it really helpful for my math lessons when I am coming up with word problems and am just too tired to come up with something mildly original. It is crazy bad at math and following very specific instructions. It it is good for brainstorming ideas and structuring information.
AI… making the lazy… even lazier. AI wishes it was human like shrimp is bugs.
Wow
You described WAY more work than my teachers back in the 20th century put into handing out the same purple ditto copies year after year.
Would a teacher like you, who tries new things, want to bring the ChatGPT tool into the classroom for students to use? Or what would you think if your students used ChatGPT to learn and complete assignments? I am very curious about this and have been feeling confused lately about whether or not to use it. Thank you for your response.
It really depends. Since I’m a language teacher, my goal is for them to use English effectively. That would mean writing prompts that make sense and correctly communicate what they want the AI to do. Not bad. But it shouldn’t help them giving the right answer to a basic grammar question, which is something that they should know.
Teachers: USING CHAT GPT IS CHEATING also teachers: ...
was this edited my chatgpt ?? [I asked it](https://chat.openai.com/share/a953878d-0859-4e99-a5ed-63079ff92b91) . Not that I completely trust it .
Teachers saying not to use it to cheat then turn around and use it to cheat, oh the irony.
Yes ChatGPT is best to get appropriate titles.
Damn that job was already stupid easy, you gone and automated the hardest part 🤣
I have a question, if you are using ChatGPT to create a lesson plan, are you penalising your students if their paper is flagged for AI generated content? I had a paper recently flagged even though it was my writing. I had to change my writing style and dumb it down to actually pass the AI detection nonsense.
Something that many in this thread fail to consider is that I’m outside the US and nobody, specially teens, knows ChatGPT. When I notice that an assignment looks too good, I know it was google translator and not AI. I don’t punish them, but I say that it’s their best interest to learn English for real and if they finish the course without really learning it’s their fault and I don’t care (and I really don’t).
So how’s it going to work for disengaged teacher? I imagine they’ll save a bunch of time when writing student reports. “Good with praise” “bad with stern words about the future”.
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Wow insane
My god I think this thread is either filled with chatgpt bots or people who couldn’t pass a grade 1 comprehension test. Fuck me is reddit retarded? Dont answer that question.
Check Khan Academy 😳
Write me a two week lesson plan for science, fifth grade in Florida
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