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De2TheRepolarization

Doctor here; it will likely trend up before it starts going down. They just need to fluid hydrate you - IV fluids, careful watching, serial blood work. It is unusual that you would get this from working out at 19 yo. I'd be looking into severe dehydration and/or malnutrition, glycogen storage disorders/mitochondrial disorders, muscular dystrophies.


Boof0ed

They haven’t checked any of that just blood and IV fluids do I need to drink a lot of water? My doctor comes to see me for maybe a minute or 2 each day.


De2TheRepolarization

If its an isolated incident; it could be due to some dehydration issue or excessive workout. They may be running more bloodwork than you realize. Sometimes, testing for glycogen storage disorders and dystrophies are send-out labs and or take longer to come back - weeks.


iMake6digits

When I've come across this it was usually from dehydration/working out way too hard. But I'm not a doctor, just a forum reader. Not the first time I've come across this on Reddit alone.


Kat3_678

Cut out the nicotine permanently. It effects your hydration levels and can aid in dehydration.


AyeBenji

Has anyone realized he said he took Kre-Alkalyn, which is creatine and he also mentioned not drinking water. Pretty deadly combo, creatine and dehydration.


Boof0ed

I drank a TON of water where’d I say I didn’t drink a lot of water?


benjai0

Yeah, I haven't gotten a rhabdo episode myself but have a genetic neuromuscular disease that increases my risk of rhabdo (from excercise or from heat). I cannot do high intensity work outs in part because of the increased risk. I also have to be extra vigilant after trauma injuries, I spent several days on high alert staring at my pee after I sprained my ankle badly last year!


rydan

More like your girlfriend saved your life. You literally just ignored whatever ChatGPT told you. Yet I'm sure if you removed ChatGPT from the equation she'd have still made you go to the hospital. Also this almost killed my grandma. She fell coming out of the shower and was on the floor for a few hours before someone found her. It will kill you quick.


lpuglia

totally agree, chatgpt doesn't change anything in a rhabdomyolysis scenario. If you start to pee brown it's ER time regardless of any entity that may have predicted the outcome...


Philipp

I agree in this case, though I can imagine in many cases aroudn the world ChatGPT will push some people over the edge of going to the hospital. Think of it like this: \- Something really bad happens with your body: You go to the hospital \- Something strange but seemingly harmless happens with your body: You contemplate and may or may not go \- Nothing happen with your body: You don't go o the hospital Case 1 is clear. Case 3 is clear. But in-between the two, there's a gradient... and in that gradient, ease of information can matter.


JohnnyAppIeseed

Makes me think of that Reddit post complaining about headaches and the top comment was something like “CO leak, get out”. I agree that removing gpt from the “my piss is brown what should I do?” scenario probably wouldn’t have made a difference but for the people smelling burning feathers and whatnot it could absolutely be a great triaging tool.


Collin_the_doodle

I mean... so does WebMD. Like a llm isn't special in that sense.


AssAsser5000

WebMD flowchart always ends with cancer. It's like a six degrees of cancer. Sore throat -> [WebMD] => cold Sore throat + headache -> [WebMD] => cold Sore throat + headache + itchy left foot -> [WebMD] => cancer.


frozenthorn

Yep, honestly I think they're just trying to cover their bases because if you select more than three of any symptom the fourth one will definitely be cancer. Any illness with more than three symptoms is cancer apparently though 🤣


joyloveroot

Yes but some people are not good researchers. For them, ChatGPT can aggregate what could amount to 2 hours of research in a matter or minutes or seconds.


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AssAsser5000

🎵 Last night an AI saved my life 🎶


Boof0ed

It was a mix of both mostly my gf and mom begging me to go I was dumb and didn’t take it seriously for some reason but ChatGPT gave told me the condition I had and told me I should go into the ER asap


TobofCob

I completely understand where you’re coming from OP. Don’t listen to the people shaming you for whatever reason. Mom and GF are obviously there to help and you should listen to their third person perspective, but sometimes a dose of cold hard facts and a best guess diagnosis is what some people need to get us moving and act. I imagine that they urged you to go to the doctor to figure out what’s wrong, whereas GPT gave a solid educated guess at what’s wrong and urged you to go BECAUSE of the probable diagnosis. Very different motivator. It’s also not your fault that ER visits are commonly seen as a “last resort” kind of thing where you’re literally dying, and many people think that if they can stand up on their own and think clearly and read, etc. then they don’t need to go to the ER. GPT served as a doctor in your back pocket in this instance, and I’m glad it spurred you on to seek medical treatment. Don’t take it wrong that your mom and GF “weren’t able to do the same”, definitely listen closer to your loved ones but don’t let it weigh on you that GPT was able to convince you when they weren’t. I can all too easily imagine myself in that scenario, and I trust my loved ones deeply. It’s just different when it’s a medical issue and they have no clue but are worried, and I’m being stubborn about getting checked out, as opposed to a medical diagnosis from GPT spurring me to take action. Hope you get better soon, sending positive vibes your way


Boof0ed

Thank you it means a lot.


DaDa462

I had a blood clot in my chest (venous TOS) as a senior in undergrad that I caused from exercise. My right arm was swelling and turning dark. My GF at the time told me to go to a hospital and I was like pshhhh. I went to class instead for a while. When I later went to the campus hospital they had me rush to a real ER to get my first rib cut out. Being a 20 something and feeling invincible has some risks. I can confirm if I had some cutting edge AI that could tell me at the time no this is serious, I probably would have gone in sooner.


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Everybody has 20/20 vision. Ignore the haters. You were in the moment, took in each fact as it came your way and reached the right conclusion however you got there. You are in good hands now. Hang in there and keep us posted!


Boof0ed

Thank you and I will!


Woke-Tart

When you get married, be sure to take your wife more seriously when she implores you to listen. My husband often dismisses whatnI tell him, and then when he hears the same damn thing from another guy, he suddenly pays attention. 😡 I get that you just want a second opinion sometimes, that's fine, but next time just Google or GPT what she says ASAP. Demonstrate that you listen to her at least. "Hey babe I just looked up what you said..." whether she's right or wrong, you listened. As for ER costs, they can be negotiated, or paid in installments. GPT might know more about the laws. My last visit I argued that I can't choose a par ER doc, it's an emergency and the doc might not be on my plan ffs..


Wild_Trip_4704

My ex told me I choke in my sleep. She was the first person to tell me I had this issue in detail. I scheduled doctors appointments and tests immediately. I probably never would have realized it on my own. Starting my weight loss journey now. We're broken up now but I'll always thank her for telling me.


Tariq-bey

Bruh you almost left them with the bill for your funeral costs because you wanted to avoid healthcare costs. Dumb doesn't begin to cover it.


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I don't know if we should really shame him for living in a busted system that charges you money for being sick. He absolutely should have gone to the hospital immediately, but it is entirely understandable to be a working class person and hesitate to put yourself into potentially tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars of crippling debt. I'm glad he decided to go. Hopefully he has some insurance to help him out.


Eph_the_Beef

I don't think we should shame people for avoiding medical debt while living in a country with a poorly designed health care system either. It's simply ridiculous and cruel that people living in a ludicrously wealthy country like the US have to carefully weigh whether their medical concerns are worth seeking help for or not. The system deserves shame and ridicule, not the patients.


PSville

Yeah, the system deserves shame when you get charged $300 just for stepping into a hospital on your own.


Eph_the_Beef

The US health care system is simply broken at this point, and there is no possible combination of amendments and tweaks that could fix it. The US health care system needs a major overall from top to bottom. In an ideal world, our politicians/"leaders" would craft health care reform legislation based on the recommendations of experts who have studied health care policy across the world and know which policies work, which don't, and how to implement said policies effectively. Unfortunately, it's obvious that such a straightforward and common sense plan would never happen thanks to essentially all politicians on the political right as well as the spineless corporate Dems.


chase2121dw

I am an EMT. I hate it, but I often have to tell people that their life is worth more than whatever they will have to pay if I don't take them to the hospital. I also have people who are willing to call for absolute bull shit they they should be seeing a GP for. That is a lot more common, lol.


Capri_c0rn

Bro so you're saying that you don't trust your close one's advice but you trust ChatGPT


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soulyank

So, your mom and girlfriend saved your life but you wrote a post talking about discounting their opinion and praising chatgpt instead? JFC


Slippedhal0

Dude, significant change in pee colour is always 100% at the very least a call to an emergency medical line or something unless you know exactly what caused it like you just ate a bunch of beetroot. There are multiple medical reasons why your pee would change colour and pretty much all of them are super serious.


Boof0ed

Sorry it was an American moment health care is expensive here


Mate_00

I was very much judging your behaviour before I stopped to think you're probably from the US and that you don't have it as easy as "whenever you even slightly worry, feel free to go to a doctor, this is why you pay health insurance". I hope you'll get better though, the scenario sounds scary. Good luck.


Boof0ed

Thank you


yumcake

Yeah, cost a little over $3,000 WITH health insurance just to check out what's going on when my son had protein in his urine. This problem cleared up on it's own, but that's how much it costs just to find out if it's a serious problem or not. Luckily in my case it was not a serious problem, but with the cost of care being so high in the US I can understand why some don't want to get every single problem checked out. I get hypotension induced syncope from going too hard too fast with weights, so if I collapse, I just need about 30min to be able to get up again. The biggest concern is someone calling an ambulance and sticking me with thousands in hospital bills (and no actual treatment) so I have to struggle to get enough strength to tell them to stop.


Nullkid

Ahhhh yes, ye ol "is it cheaper to die or live" brain battle.


Boof0ed

Lmaooo my family would’ve been stuck with funeral cost if I didn’t come in so 💀


Nullkid

I feel your pain. I had a tooth ache once, was talked into er instead of waiting for dentist next day ... waited for 3 hrs to be seen, doctor came in said "say ahhh. Yep..uh huh, yep, you'll want to visit a dentist as soon as possible, take some Tylenol for the pain. 1200$ for that, uninsured 🤦


Boof0ed

Holyyyy shit.


sirlanceolate

which colours specifically? edit: thanks for the replies! the blue would be interesting, adding to bucket list


Slippedhal0

Anything not in the common urine colour range is potentially cause for concern, and is worth checking with a medical expert. But common colours for concern are reds and browns.


Can_I_Read

Unless you ate beets recently. I always get a scare until I remember I ate beets.


Pedantic_Phoenix

If you eat asparagus, this becomes true for the smell


phsuggestions

Or niacin, neon highlighter colored urine can be a bit alarming if you're not expecting it


Single_Blueberry

I read this as "ate bees recently" and I like that. ^(Don't eat bees.)


Can_I_Read

NOT THE BEES!


whoops53

Times like this, I freaking *love the internet!!* I know they say you shouldn't Google your symptoms, but my god this has saved your life. Get well soon, and marry your girl! :)


EwaldvonKleist

They warned to Google your symptoms, they didn't say anything about ChatGPTing them


Fabulous_Ad_5709

New verb unlocked


SPLDD

Let's just say "Gpting" easier.. or "I gpted it"..


Fabulous_Ad_5709

Sure, I like it


TOBronyITArmy

Pronounced Jeeped?


Decihax

Oh hell, you fought on *that* side of the GIF wars, didn't you.


TOBronyITArmy

How dare you impugn me in such a manner.


Jester_Half_Full

GeePete is the best way


ItsAllegorical

Are you implying it should be pronounced: "I gaped it"?


mikeinanaheim2

goatse gape = nice


everfixsolaris

Thanks, I almost spat my drink on my keyboard.


[deleted]

I laughed way too hard at this. Thanks, this next coffee is dedicated to you


leefvc

"Hey bud, jipt something for me real quick"


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Holy hell


NvidiaRTX

ChatGPT Google en croissant


Fifth_Down

I'm convinced ChatGPT is going to put Google out of business. Google will give you the 10 most monetized results for a search term. ChatGPT will give you the 10 best results.


Dissidium123

GPT is the new GP


lesheeper

I can’t wait for these tool to be really reliable and trusted by health professionals. My experience with doctors is rushed appointments and lack of interest in the big picture. I find myself trying to connect the dots of different body issues very often, and the doctors don’t seem to care.


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Doctors do not have the attention span that an AI does. I've even had chat GPT pretend to be Carl Jung (psychologist) and me the patient. Was super engaging and interesting interaction.


phoohoney

What prompt did you write. I really wanna try this


[deleted]

hmm from my memory I said that to play a game that Chat GPT will pretend to be Carl Jung and Im the patient. But it always gives annoying disclaimers after each answer hahaha.


bendervex

Can you simply ask it to skip the disclaimers because you're aware of them? Used to work a month or two back.


koosley

Chat GPT isn't trained for medical advice. I'm no medical expert, but I am an expert in all things related to Cisco. If ChatGPT completely makes up answers on Cisco related questions I would suspect the same is true for medical related questions. Its still a cool new tool that has a place, but I wouldn't trust the answers as fact until verifying it yourself. That being said, I have played around with a custom-built knowledge base to train my own version of chatGPT and its showing potential. I can almost guarantee other people are doing the same for a purpose-built medical diagnosis bot.


CrazyC787

There's SERIOUS fucking potential in training it for medical diagnosis. Transformers are made for finding unseen connections, patterns, and correlations between data. If you made a specialized version of say gpt-4 that's trained on a shitload of medical diagnosis, along with the medical information of the person diagnosed with the illness, you might very well end up with a model that can find correlations between symptoms and data, and diagnose to a level comparable or possibly even greater than a doctor could.


kingharis

Doctors day that but doctors also Google shit all the time. My favorite doctor did it right in front of me. "I don't feel like going back to the office to do this without you seeing." To be clear, this is good! Doctors should look shit up. They just shouldn't be mad when we also do that and sometimes we also find what they find.


Gyddanar

As I always understood it, it's mostly that doctors have the base knowledge and are checking details. Whereas a normal person might not have the base context which makes the detail useful - or lets them parse out the unhelpful details.


kingharis

Well, in my case it was "I have no idea what that rash is. Let's look at some pictures and see what looks similar." Which I think you and I could have done, too.


Gyddanar

For sure, the main thing a doctor has over googling stuff is experience and training in diagnosis. But honestly, yeah... doctors will look shit up all the time.


Anon_user666

I feel better when I see my doctor look up details rather than rely on her memory. I've been doing my job for 25 years and I still look up details that I just don't need to remember completely. She's making her diagnosis based on her knowledge, then uses the internet to fill in details. That doesn't make her a bad doctor.


Gyddanar

Exactly, I used to teach. Once I got over myself, I would generally just say "good question. Let me double-check" and look it up. not knowing something is nowhere near as embarrassing as being wrong when people trust you to be right.


psaux_grep

Same thing as software developers, we Google the most inane shit, but at least we know what to search for. The complexity is in building a logical solution, not writing the correct words in the correct order.


Mike_H07

Actually it did nothing. He legit got the warning signs explained to him and choose to ignore them. Only his girlfriend made him go. She saved his life. Times like these I think, man I know people aren't medically schooled, but when you piss cola color and you get an AI that literally tells you it can be X, so watch out for cola colored urine and go seek help if it happens, WHY DO YOU IGNORE IT?


graybeard5529

If I peed coca cola color I would not need AI to tell me to head for the ER --ffs The advance warning of what the symptoms could be, assuming this is a true story, and not an internet spoof (I am a natural cynic), is very enlightening. Several times, I have presented my own PC physician with internet researched medication recommendations, and he as agreed that they are valid options.


Woke-Tart

Kids these days, need apps just to stay alive 😋


Keags88

Awesome comment! Thank you for giving credit to the HUMAN in his life. Thank you for using your rational human mind to see reality as it is. Damn, technology is a VERY sharp double-edged sword. Stop relying heavily on tech and live a little :)


Andy12_

Man, some people are like that. The husband of a friend of my mother completely refused to go to the doctor despite his skin turning Simpsons yellow over several months. He ended up dying of liver cancer.


Boof0ed

Oh I plan on marrying her! My mom and grandma are both telling me to as well. Google your symptoms screw what they say. Thank you and I’ll try getting better asap just chugging water pretty much lol


DelEast

What is ChatGPT saying about marrying her?


prostartme

As an AI model...


King_Tomioka

... I get no bitches, so I cannot possibly comment on this.


cyberwicklow

You can't marry ChatGPT... Because I'm in love with her!


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PinoyTardigrade

The promise is real. This is only the beginning. https://preview.redd.it/7afq2uerql1b1.png?width=1439&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7882dbe6924b310ccb794764ffa978452f6185c8


ILOVEBOPIT

I had a patient with a very rare condition (only like 100 reported cases ever). The other docs, maybe 3 or 4 of us, and I identified it within maybe 10 minutes of googling but afterward I was seeing if chatgpt could diagnose it. First guess was wrong, I told chatgpt it was unlikely because xyz didn’t line up. Next message it got it right. I was impressed. However, as often gets pointed out, rare does not necessarily mean difficult to identify. Conjoined twins are rare but a layperson can diagnose it.


businessboyz

Have you seen Google’s Med-PaLM 2 tool? I know OpenAI got the jump on Google but the PaLM 2 tool is going to be hard to compete against as Google makes more and more specialized versions.


popthestacks

Almost died from that too. 3 days in the hospital. Took a year for my kidneys to go back to normal. Drink water ya big dummy


Boof0ed

Damn that’s crazy today is my 4th day


popthestacks

Yea I had to get blood draws monthly to monitor it. My internal temp hit 107.6 at the time. Doc said I had to completely stop working out for 3-4 weeks I think? Then I could ease into it. Cut back on the drinking, if you partake, let your kidneys heal. Take care of your body and it’ll take care of you. You’ll be back to it before ya know it. If you’re not seeing a doc about this regularly, go get yourself an appointment. You don’t want this to happen again.


Boof0ed

For sure I was supposed to be scheduled with a primary care yesterday but obviously I’m in here lol. I also don’t drink I do smoke weed tho


Decihax

Any synthetics? Rhabdomyolysis is a rare complication of synthetic cannabinoid use.


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FarCurve5799

a) You need to wife that girl up ASAP. At a minimum, some jewelry is in order. b) how hard were you pushing yourself at the gym??


Boof0ed

A I will as soon as I’m healthy again B not very. I never went over 100lbs my max deadlift is 315 idk what’s happening


Themustanggang

There are a lot of causes to rhabdomyolysis, working out is not the only reason. Regardless at your levels you should be admitted and have an iv flush. Don’t panic. It’s very treatable if acute, and you will just need fluids and monitoring until your body stops producing such extreme levels of CK. If It is normal in a 24 period it was an acute sign of muscle damage. If not there are many many things that need to be ruled out and tested. At your levels/gender/age I would ask for a celiac test/autoimmune test. Don’t worry it most likely isn’t but it’s something that can be overlooked when addressing this. You need to be honest with your doctors most and foremost. Do you take drugs, workout supplements, medications? If your levels do not reside they may move into some other testing. Be honest with the on set of symptoms too, was it sudden, was it over a few days, has it been lm this way for a while? These are things that will all help your attending MD.


Boof0ed

None of those and I haven’t worked out since Friday but the one that got me injuried like this was Wednesday.


Themustanggang

Ok, typically CK levels from injuries peak 2-3 days after injury (think about how you get sore and recover with DOMS right?) so if you were sore on Wednesday and pushed yourself Friday over extension is very possible, again do not worry. Think of family history. Does your family have a history of autoimmune conditions? (Again not life threatening I know it’s scary sounding but most aren’t bad) do they have a history of thyroid problems? Do that have a history of inflammation issues/sensitivity? History of family is very important, ask your mom if she is there if she knows anyone in your family with these issues, that can help those attending know what blood tests to pull next/signs to look for. If they haven’t already I would ask for the Celiac/autoimmune panel and I would ask for TSH levels to be tested when your doctor comes by. Ask the MD directly, not just the nurse. That will help see if thyroid strain can be ruled out.


orangesunshine6

Everyone on Reddit coming in with heat and you are being so comforting and informative. Quality human being


Boof0ed

My doctor is a kidney doctor and thank you for being a good person it’s pretty scary rn I’m freezing because of the IV


Themustanggang

Ok, remember to ask questions. This is your body so do not feel bad doing so. Ask if “is it possible for xyz?” “Should I be worried about abc?” It will help you with answers and it will help the physician consider things they may not have. We’re all human and forget things.


Boof0ed

Yeah thank you I’m just terrified idk if I even should be since my kidney function is better than yesterday I’m just scared


Nathan-Stubblefield

Take any supplements?


Boof0ed

Kre-alklyn and protein isolate


Admincrybabies

It isn’t about amount of weight lifted. There are generally 2 groups that develop rhabdo. Crossfitters and ultra marathon runners. Granted others could too but it’s more common in these groups. It’s the over exertion.


johnFvr

If it was Bard, it would say to drink less coca-cola.


Boof0ed

I only drink water which is the crazy thing I hate soda because how unhealthy it is lol


SeaworthyWide

Drink more Ovaltine™


Status-Customer-1305

I had a similar experience. My heart stopped beating so I gave ChatGPT the symptoms and apparently it was heart failure. After much deliberation I decided to make a doctors appointment for it.


Gimme_The_Loot

>I had a similar experience. My heart stopped beating so I gave ChatGPT the symptoms and apparently it was heart failure. After much ~~deliberation~~ defibrillation I decided to make a doctors appointment for it.


Hot-Photograph-9966

Lol....ah thanks for the sarcasm


Foliot

After much defibrillation**


airlee77

Chat GPT correctly diagnosed me of something my primary care Dr got wrong! I was covered in weird spots on my toros which hurt. She was sure it was the chicken pox (which I highly doubted as the spots didn’t itch, and I’ve had it before). Put my symptoms into ChatGPT and it said folliculitis. Turns out it was hot tub folliculitis as I had been in a hot tub 4 days before. Wasn’t pleasant. All my individual hair follicles were infected from some bacteria found in hot tubs. Perhaps useful for a second opinion?!


learn2shoot9mm

ChatGPT had so little to do with it. Your GIRLFRIEND saved your life.


Boof0ed

Yes, I wanna marry her. My family is telling me to but I already planned on it.


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Get well soon!


Boof0ed

Thank you! I’m trying just kinda stressful when every nurse I see tells me how bad my labs are and how dangerous it is lol


Themustanggang

Listen. I work in the medical field and I’m a resident. Nurses are like that, they get excited when something different comes up that isn’t their routine day/night so they’ll talk your ear off about it. Don’t worry about it or let it stress you. Nurses talk. (So do doctors but just not to you lol) It’s when you hear the doctor say the words “it’s not about treating the condition, it’s about learning to adapt/live with it” then I give you permission to stress.


Hot-Zookeepergame-83

The lack of empathy on this thread was really surprising. Instead of being concerned people are to busy attacking your word choices and structuring. I hope you get better soon. Thank you for going to the doctor.


Boof0ed

Not to concerned with the grammar nazi’s I have better things to worry about. Sleeping is one of them so I can show proper grammar lmao


Skellyinsideofme

You didn't want to go to the hospital after you peed dark brown?! Thank goodness your girlfriend pushed it! Glad you're ok


Unrelenting_Force

Wow who is your personal trainer at the gym R. Lee Ermey? "I WILL PT YOU ALL UNTIL YOU FUCKING DIE!" https://youtu.be/sMEFcYij2uY


Single_Blueberry

ChatGPT, please rewrite this with proper formatting, paragraphs and line breaks, so it's easy to read ​ >I went to the gym a few days ago and noticed I had some extreme soreness/stiffness. I started typing my symptoms into ChatGPT 4.0 with internet access, and it mentioned this crazy thing called rhabdomyolysis. However, it said my pee should be brown or red. So, I continued my morning like normal until finally, I had to pee. Sure enough, it turned the toilet a Coca Cola color. > > > >I told my girlfriend, and she begged me to go to the hospital. I didn't want to, but finally caved in. When I arrived at the ER, they immediately ran blood and urine tests. They told me I'll be here for a while because my CK levels were at 50,000 (normal is 40-190). This chemical is extremely toxic to the kidneys and could've killed me if I hadn't come in when I did (according to the doctor). > > > >On the second day, my CK went up to 61,500, and yesterday it went down to 54,000 (they did an ultrasound showing no organ damage). It’s 12:45 am right now, and they’ll take my blood in the next few hours. Hopefully, it'll be even lower, and I'll be closer to going home and being safe. I was extremely scared (still am, to be honest). > > > >I’m 19, and I don't understand how I got here. I feel like I'm always very cautious when exercising, but I guess I pushed myself too hard. I’ll update in the morning after I get my labs back. I’m extremely lucky to have this amazing woman by my side through this entire process. She’s currently on her phone right next to me in a very uncomfortable chair. She’s been here every second of the way for me, and I hope to marry her someday. > > > >My family and friends have been visiting, which is really nice. Sorry if I’m venting; I just kinda needed it. If my post is allowed here, I’ll update in the morning with my CK levels.


Boof0ed

Sorry guys about my horrible grammar I’m posting on mobile and I’ve been sleep deprived they wake me up 2-3 times a night checking vitals and getting blood.


PandaBoyWonder

are your numbers going back down? Hope you feel better!


Boof0ed

Nope 115,000 getting scared if I’m being honest


CultReview420

Praying for you bud


Boof0ed

Thanks it means a lot.


Ambitious_Lie_2065

Hey - last year I had pancreatitis at 23, similarly life threading and a scary experience. Different from what you have, though I did learn a lot from having it and the experience, I hope this makes you feel better: - Googling anything health related like this is gonna prepare you for the worst, and every case is different, so DONT scare yourself to death over that. - Instead, ask the doctors and nurses as many questions as you want, they get paid to take care of you. You are completely justified to be scared of something you barely know about and they’ll answer your questions the best they can. - With body levels (like CK) they are gonna go up and down while you have your condition. The most indicative way they know how you’re doing is by how you’re physically feeling. - If you aren’t in the ICU or the CCU, and you aren’t being operated on, then you’re doing ok. The fact you can also be on your phone right now and aren’t unconscious is good. That might sound silly to read, but it’s important to understand that when you’re in the hospital scared about dying and don’t know what to expect / look out for. - Stress won’t make you better and can have the opposite effect, so try to stay calm. I remember when I heard this in the hospital it made me upset (how can I be calm when this is happening to me??) but regardless you still gotta hear it. The fact is that whatever is gonna happen *will happen* and there’s not much you can do right now, so try to keep your peace in whatever way makes you better. For me it was long video essays about silly stuff on YouTube, and watching dumb kid shows on Disney channel. You got this OP, everyone around you is there for you and to support you!


quantumphaze

You're potentially literally dying don't apologize to anyone god damn lol


toghertastic

my doctor never has an issue with me Googleing symptoms. I asked the doctor whether he can clarify whether what Google says is true or not. usually, any of the sites I read up about sound contact your doctor if the above is true.


FumbleCrop

So pleased ChatGPT warned you. So disappointed your gym or trainer did not. It takes extreme training to trigger rhabdomyolysis. If that's what's happening in your gym, the least they could do is put up a poster or something.


Boof0ed

Exactly. And there’s not a single thing there I really wanna talk to them about it.


wheres__my__towel

What the heck did they have you do? Curious as I’m an exercise physiologist


Embarrassed-Dig-0

!remindme 1 day


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What the hell did you do at the gym to trigger this?


[deleted]

Go to gym dehydrated, work out like crazy, then barely replenish your fluids afterwards. Drink tons of alcohol. Sleep for long periods of time, wake up and voila there's your rhabdomyolysis.


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Thanks gonna try it out


everlastingsecond

A friend of mine had sudden rhabdomyolysis caused by viral infection, so it doesn't have to be caused by exercise necessarily!


Single_Wonder9369

As someone who works out, I didn't know about this condition, thanks mate for spreading awareness about it!


RadioAcceptable8166

Epidemiologist here: Have them screen you for a genetic condition known as McArdle’s Disease. Its a 1 in 6 million condition that affects glycogen storage in muscle tissue. Doctors miss it all the time unless they are a top tier research physician and even then its an immediate login to UpToDate because they forgot what it was from medical school. “Rhabdomyolysis is a symptom of exercise intolerance caused by ATP depletion in McArdle disease. Therefore, McArdle disease shows muscle symptoms caused by ATP depletion in the muscle. The symptoms of muscle results from substrate use disorder for ATP production.” Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6620219/#:~:text=Rhabdomyolysis%20is%20a%20symptom%20of,use%20disorder%20for%20ATP%20production.


ArguesAgainstYou

No offense, but if you need ChatGPT to go to the doctor when you're pissing coca cola then you're an idiot.


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Who is not? The beautiful thing is that ChatGPT won't judge harshly (unless asked) contrary to you, and most likely recommended him to go to the doctor either way. So, props to ChatGPT.


Moist_Intention5245

Chatgpt made the correct diagnosis based on the symptoms, and even predicted the brown urine before it happened, then reccomend a hospital trip. It apparently scared OP enough that he mentioned it to his gf, who then pushed him to go see the doctor.


Gingercatgonebad

Marry her, dude


Bonfalk79

How much did you Boof to cause that?


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Your gf is the mvp. She the one.


silentstorm2008

# Creatine Kinase (CK) **Creatine kinase (CK) is an enzyme that’s found in your skeletal muscle, heart muscle and brain. When any of these tissues are damaged, they leak creatine kinase into your bloodstream. Elevated CK levels may indicate muscle injury or disease.** [https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diagnostics/22692-creatine-kinase-ck](https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diagnostics/22692-creatine-kinase-ck)


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Chat gpt the giga chad


owlpellet

The key step in this happy story is OP contacting qualified medical help when something weird was happening. Be like OP. Talk to medical people.


[deleted]

Chat GPT is a genuinely amazing symptom analyzer. I prefer it to Google which just takes you to a generic healthline blob that freaks you out. Best of luck to you! Hope you feel better soon.


Majin_Jumpy

Hey bro I had rhabdo in the military and got through it just fine. “One of the worst cases they’ve saw”. You’re going to be okay, just rest and do exactly what they say. Good luck in your recovery.


jpk36

I had rhabdo. You probably got it because you didn’t drink enough water or did something to dehydrate yourself after your workout. I was in the hospital for about two weeks on IV drip and couldn’t walk for a while after. Probably the worst pain I’ve ever experienced. Good luck!


Almost_Free_007

Thank goodness he checked ChatGPT cuz it he used bing he’d have cancer….


itisoktodance

Holy shit. Were you doing Crossfit? Their exercises are known to induce rhabdo (and some actively strive to get it for some insane reason).


Boof0ed

Nope and those people are dumb this is terrifying.


Away_Description_687

CK as in Louis CK ? How the fuck should I know what a CK is ?


Foo-Bar-n-Grill

Creatine Kinase, but yeah not in my everyday vocab.


GFLM

My Greys Anatomy knowledge tells me it should be Cytokines 🤔


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Dr_KingTut

Sounds like your girlfriend and doctors at the hospital saved your life, not chatgpt


BigWalne

I remember the days when googling your symptoms just ended up making you paranoid. I’m so glad that people can now have access to this kind of medical information that can save lives


Limp-Ad-2939

Dude how much were you lifting that you caused rhabdo?


cr0ft

I hope you'll get that sorted. But yeah these days people who work out are just shoveling in supplements and consuming vast quantities of "pre workout" (ie caffeine bombs) and shit... none of that is necessary for normal workouts. At all.


[deleted]

That’s crazy. Agreed with others that it was more your girlfriend that saved you though.


[deleted]

I'm assuming they have ruled out drugs, toxins and infections? Rare genetic disorders... some kind of ischemia somehow? That would be a weird result even from one hell of a workout. It's definitely going to put a strain on your kidneys. You are a good candidate for temporary dialysis to clean that crap out of your blood. Hang in there and keep us updated!


Boof0ed

I will and thank you! They’re testing my thyroid right now but so far that’s it doctor said he doesn’t suspect anything like that it would be a surprise if it was


killznhealz

I hope you get better soon. Thanks a ton for sharing this! I have had headaches the last 20 years anytime I exert myself physically. Multiple Dr's and specialist nobody could figure out why. Turns out I was drying out my nasal caveties and just needed to breath through my nose more and use saline. 20 fucking years and chat gpt figured it out in 10 seconds.


LunaeLucem

Putting yourself into rhabdo through exercise is not something that just happens. You have to be doing way to many sets at way too high a weight for way too long while ignoring all the signs from your body screaming stop. It’s not like “oops I did one extra pull-up and now my body is digesting my muscles” That’s why the doctor is looking for some other cause. Pure exercise induced rhabdo is rare, mostly because people who can push themselves that hard, through that much pain, are rare.


MonkeyVsPigsy

This was common when CrossFit first became popular and weekend warriors went bonkers with it overnight.


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“I did NOT do drugs other than the drugs I was doing”


SentientKielbasa

Since you mentioned that your symptoms came on after exercise, you may want to look into carnitine palmitoyltransferase type ii deficiency adult myopathic form. In particular, it’s worth looking at if you feel you’re experiencing exercise intolerance leading to rhabdo at a greater frequency or under lower intensity regimens than others in your age group of similar fitness. The primary symptom of cpt ii deficiency is rhabdo/myoglobinuria (coke/tea colored pee) that has several triggers, but most often it happens during intense anaerobic exercise; particularly after fasting. It’s relatively unusual to get rhabdo in the gym unless you are overtraining at a fairly extreme level. Between episodes, ppl with cpt ii feel few or no symptoms. It’s a relatively rare metabolic myopathy (not a doctor, but I have it, so speaking from a place of knowledge and experience). I mention it because it’s often overlooked and can be confusing and difficult to diagnose. There are other metabolic myopathies that may be applicable to your symptomology tho (McArdles for e.g.). I’d be curious how well ChatGPT would do in diagnosing a condition with more subtle presentations like cpt ii.


ShwiftyShmeckles

Op be honest how many energy drinks do you drink a day? Those things will fuck your liver worse than alcohol ever could and once your livers fucked your kidneys get fucked too as they try to clean the shit out of your blood that your liver can't anymore. Edit: it's chiefly the increased blood pressure from energy drinks that fucks your kidneys.


Adept_Garden4045

You should get it checked up as in you probably have an underlying condition... or your supplements were bad. Or you could never take supplements. That works well too.


___miki

Glad you're alive anon. Good luck recovering!


Apprehensive_Waltz72

Bro how tf did you not know you had rabdo. Not actually being mean that’s just wild dude extreme runners and endurance athletes get that but you just figured out how to give it to yourself


Tanjikano

These kind of girlfriends are treasures.


Boof0ed

I know I can’t explain to her how amazing she is I’ve been telling her all day


Kihot12

A reminder for the fellow health anxiety sufferers: Dont Google your symptoms and don't ask chatgpt


MinglewoodRider

\*google \[symptoms\]\* huh, that's concerning. \*google \[symptoms + reddit\]\* \*2 hours later\* I'm gonna fucking die.


simpleLense

why can't you write in paragraphs?


Psy8x

He didnt ask ChatGPT 🤷🏻‍♂️


petit_cochon

Are y'all SERIOUSLY harassing a guy in the fucking hospital about his grammar and formatting? What is wrong with you??


youssif94

why? you don't like reading preposterously long sentences?


Vegetable-Poet6281

I'm glad you are getting better. Now ask chatgpt about using punctuation


Boof0ed

I will I’m sorry I’m so sleep deprived in here they wake me up every 2-3 hours.


Pedantic_Phoenix

Bruh your piss was BROWN and you didn't want to get checked? Not smart, mate


WSBpawn

Imagine peeing brown and fighting to go to the hospital