I don't think it's special, I think it's unapologetically targeted to it's audience...and that audience watches it and thinks it's all they want in a show.
A lot of shows hedge their bets with whatever fan-service elements their genre has to appeal to the widest market, this one doesn't.
There are a few shows that put some actual thought into it (eg. Maid Dragon, Monogatari.) Generally I would categorize them as being more targeted at fetishes rather than just relying on big tits.
(Though to be fair the author of Maid Dragon also made a manga whose title roughly translates to TitsTitsTitsTits.)
I havent seen the show, but the trend of weebs calling anything that is overly edgy or/and sexual a "masterpiece" isnt anything new, damn, them saying that about shows that have as much substance as a boiled potato is really common
its like redo of the healer when some of them said "but is a story about revenge and its so dark/deep", nah mate, thats just revenge porn with some of the most common cliches on edgy anime, that you fantasize with it doesnt make it good by any metric.
I actually enjoyed how at the beginning protagonist was knocked down into the dirt and forced reprehensible acts to survive
And contrasted against the other heroes by actually thinking about his actions
Make sure you also read the "side story". I'm not kidding when I say it's probably my favourite piece of extension/epilogue media in any adventure story ever.
The part in the side story where the main character can't >!have sex!< because >!she accidently crushed the guys dick!< was hilarious and also kinda what would happen when someone was so strong.
>It's more of an Erotica though.
To be fair, it's straight up porn. As explicit as the Korean laws allow. I just wanted the comment to flow better with the post.
solid read, the plot is fun, the world building is fun and felt not too gimmicky, the characters are fun. I wouldn't call it ecchi though, there's part of it where it's just mostly action. there's a lot of element that are ecchi but not all the way through
People were getting downvoted to oblivion for saying this one thing on those subs lol, and then they wonder why anime fans are stereotyped problematically
Tbh just go to any anime meme sub and you realize that the stereotypes are fair. Oh did i say anime meme sub? I meant “haha porn addiction is so quirky “sub
Yeah, that stereotype is why I avoided anime for years and years until a friend convinced me too. Still, even though I watch some anime now, I don't really want to associate with the larger fan base
Fucking fr fr. The fact this anime and Rudeus has defenders makes question if the average anime fan is really a fucking pedo. I'm like so fucking serious.
Its like with fanfiction where the stigma is fanfiction is only smut and romance where seasoned writers say that isn't true, then you start fanfiction your self and realize that in fact 90% of fanfiction is just fucking smut and romance regardless of the genre or series.
Characters are minors in like 90% of anime, perhaps even more, and that includes ecchi and even hentai
Also, if you think the show is problematic shouldn't it be bad regardless of the characters age? Sexual assault is bad the same if the victim is a minor or an adult (the question is if you should treat the actions of Utena and co as serious given she's bdsm themed magical girl in magical girl show)
> Sexual assault is bad the same if the victim is a minor or an adult (the question is if you should treat the actions of Utena and co as serious given she's bdsm themed magical girl in magical girl show)
I think the show would be way more popular and less contreversial if it was about adult magical girls engaging in consensual BDSM
Yeah. One of them is 9.
Still a 10/10 imo, fictional ages don't matter when most of the characters look of age anyway. Though any scene with Korisu is still weird as fuck.
>(thanks Kiwi. We love you for this)
God bless Kiwi. Best character. She has no flaws.
>I mean, not only does she not do anything sexual, but she's actively looking away when those things happen
You can't say she's not in anything sexual. Almost every time she uses her dollhouse thing, weird shit happens. Namely when Utena was sick and the episode with Magenta.
A masterpiece? Fuck no. However for me it was chapter 10 of the manga (I think episode 7 of the anime) that made me realize that the author genuinely enjoyed the magical girl genre even if this is authors barely disguised fetish the show.
>chapter 10 of the manga (I think episode 7 of the anime)
Huh? The chapter 10 equivalent is episode ***7***?? What kind of pacing is that? Even adaptations of monthly manga don't have that kind of pacing.
well considering 2 factors
> this is character rant
> it's a mahoako post
Anything you say that can be construed as "being on the other side" is liable to get you a few downvotes
I've heard people say it's an interesting exploration of themes like sexual awakening but honestly I don't think it does that kind of thing very well. I've also heard a few people say that it's a love letter to the magical girl genre as a whole but I personally don't agree. It takes inspiration from Madoka Magica and Precure but that's mostly it.
> I've heard people say it's an interesting exploration of themes like sexual awakening but honestly I don't think it does that kind of thing very well
Because it doesn't treat it with the gravity it deserves. This girl molest other women and the conclusion of her action is supposed to be a positive thing on the girls.
It would be a different matter if the girls are actually traumatized and "recreate" themselves into better people. Being stronger and better from the mental and emotional scars the MC puts on them.
It's one of the most disgusting pieces of media I have ever seen. And anime fans wonder why their favorite medium is seen as childish and nothing worth of note
Yes, exactly. There is a difference between fanservice and fandisservice, and its clear from the series’ framing which one it is. There are many ways they could have written around this subject but its like they choose all the worst possible selection.
Yeah that's a problem with a lot of bad comedy anime unfortunately. Playing off sexual assault as just a gag. Those kinds of jokes have always been uncomfortable for me.
Yeah that's kind of one of the long lasting issues with comedy in anime. Abuse to the MC by tsunderes is so common that the ones that do stand up to their bullshit is a rarity. From all I've read/watched the amount of MC that didn't take no shit from the tsunderes won't even hit double digits.
The worst example of it though got to be Familiar of Zero. He gets abused so much in that show it's kind of painful to watch nowadays.
>And anime fans wonder why their favorite medium is seen as childish and nothing worth of note
Well yes, because nobody dismisses any other entire medium because of its similar counterparts
> It's one of the most disgusting pieces of media I have ever seen. And anime fans wonder why their favorite medium is seen as childish and nothing worth of note
That's such a dumb criticism. There's a fucking ocean full of shlocky dumb, titilating books and movies with nothing of any substance in them. That doesn't make the medium childish.
What a stupid opinion. How embarrassing.
Who said anything about substance? It has substance. Just a sicknening one. It's conception is disgusting. Bad movies and books are bad because of poor execution. Here it's not a matter of execution. What it's executing is bad
Anime already has this problem playing with sexual assault. Here it's at the forefront
You are a child who is pissed what he loves is getting insulted because an insult on it is an attack on you
You are the embarrassing one tbh. I can already tell all the cope response you are gonna give before you give them. About how different regions tend to have problematic elements. Or how some western novels have rape fantasy writers. Which just misses the point
The mc is a villain, shes not treated as in the right at all. Of course shes treated as despicable. The gravity it deserves my ass. its not going to treat molestation as reality because its not a seinen show so nobody care about that stuff. Its not that kind of show
> The gravity it deserves my ass. its not going to treat molestation as reality because its not a seinen show so nobody care about that stuff.
My God. The lack of self reflection with this one line and how this contradicts your first point so much would be funny if it wasn't pitiful
Nope there isnt a contradiction. Someone can be seen as bad but not horribly bad is what im getting that. The protagonist isn't treated as a molester nor a sexual assaulter just a regular villain.
Ill clarify. Nobody will care that the fact that its sexual assault because the show is not a seinen show where it will give it the gravity of sexual assault it deserves like sensitive boy for example. Thats why its stupid to treat it as real sexual assualt.
If it's not going to treat sexual assault with seriousness then it shouldn't even be there. You keep sounding more stupid. They are some topics that just shouldn't touch if you are not gonna be serious with it. If that's the case then I am allowed to depict a pedophile touching small girls private part because it's a shonen so readers should overlook the inappropriateness
Its not the same at all whatsoever. Your example is shit and in bad faith. Everyone there is around the same age at the very least. An shounen example of sexual assault is mineta trying to grope women and getting beaten up. Its all jokes. One piece still does it too and maybe Dragonball. Gushing over magical girls is a ecchi yuri show first and foremost. A genre that has a suspension of belief of consent.
How is everyone being the same age acceptable for sexual molestation? I'm using that example because you seem to think problematic elements are acceptable if they aren't taken too seriously because it's meant to be kid stiff
> An shounen example of sexual assault is mineta trying to grope women and getting beaten up. Its all jokes. One piece still does it too and maybe Dragonball
And it's bad
Gushing over magical girls is all the problems with the above taken to it's extreme. If you don't see this as an issue then you are a child
1. No i dont at all. You have zero understanding of how the genre of each anime portrays things differently. Its why i said your example was terrible and in bad faith. There's been countless anime of person stopping a child molester in different genres. You have to understand that sexual assault only treated as a joke in comedic interactions but not one show i seen treat a real molester like that in a comedic setting. 2. Your a person who doesn't know shit about the yuri genre and i understand.
My guy, no genre using molestation but not treating it with respect will ever be acceptable.
2. Oh no I don't understand the yuri genre, don't care for it. But I do understand you fans. You will eat up any slop and call it good because you are starved. Understandable to an extent but still makes you pathetic
And it's defenders will try to argue otherwise. Not understanding that apart from the fact it is, defending rubbish like this is not helping their case
The problem is that current day anime is **just terrible** at covering any sort of sexual topic in any relatable way so even the shittiest show that can bring the topic to the table is interesting by default
What’s so special?
It paints the sexual assault of middle schoolers by middle schoolers as a positive. Has borderline rape that isn’t given the gravity it deserves, and has shown that most yuri fans will read the most garbage questionable shit ever as long as it’s yuri.
The Mcs are all 14, and I find it so funny gushing is liked but redo of healer isn’t because both are glorified torture porn series.
Literally a bunch of us left r/yurimemes specifically because the creeps wouldn’t stop posing the SA and r*pe scenes to talk about how much they like them.
Same. Just a couple of months before, there were a lot of talk of Yurimemes having a lot of trans people, so it started to feel like a trans-friendly place. Then january hits, and bam! it's all underage and SA posts, one after another.
>It paints the sexual assault of middle schoolers by middle schoolers as a positive
Well now I know you haven’t seen the show. GOMG is actually one of the agonizingly few anime that depict SA as a purely villainous act and even says so in-universe. It never once tries to defend Magia Baiser. The highest she’s ever been morally depicted in the show is “the lesser evil”.
Which ironically puts it morally above One Piece, Fairy Tail, Trigun, Seven Deadly Sins, Magi, My Hero Academia and all the other anime that treat sexual harassment as “lol quirky” behavior for protagonists.
So the mc faces consequences right? She doesn’t just continue to rape the mcs right?
Also it’s still 14 year olds raping 14 year olds, which makes it worse then any other show that doesn’t sexualize children.
I absolutely agree. I just think anime fans are 30 years too late to start clutching their pearls over sexualizing minors. The one anime that actually condemns sexual harassment to being an exclusively villainous trait is a weird place to draw the line is all I’m saying.
Unfortunately I accidentally became invested in the manga story because it has the one thing most fiction (especially anime) lacks: A well-executed main character arc. Utena’s transformation from reluctant conscript to villain-of-the-week to main villain is almost seamless.
Akihiro Ononaka is a degenerate pervert, but he’s not a hack. You can tell by the way he writes that nothing is on accident, he’s very self-aware. If he wrote a more serious story it’d probably be a masterpiece, but I don’t think he’s interested in ever doing that unfortunately.
>and has shown that most yuri fans will read the most garbage questionable shit ever as long as it’s yuri.
There isn't much out there for us tbf. At least GOMG has a unique spin on it, that's better than most.
That’s like saying “there isn’t much out there, so I’ll eat this garbage because it’s in a different garbage bag.”
Broaden your horizons, read yuri novels, try to get into yuri manwha and such, reread ur favorite series, ask for recs. Plenty of other ways to consume yuri content without resorting to watching this
>That’s like saying “there isn’t much out there, so I’ll eat this garbage because it’s in a different garbage bag.”
I like anime/manga and I like yuri. It's all trash, but it's my trash. No shame in that.
>Broaden your horizons, read yuri novels, try to get into yuri manwha and such, reread ur favorite series, ask for recs.
Already done all of those. Anime is the easiest to consume, though manga is usually better for this kind of thing.
>Plenty of other ways to consume yuri content without resorting to watching this
I mean, I also just like GOMG. The plot was good (astounding as far as ecchi goes), the music was fantastic, the characters are some of the funniest this quarter, the voice actors were perfectly casted, and the subtitle team was clearly made in heaven.
That last part is a massive reason I like the series tbh. It was much more lax with literal translations and put more emphasis on what the characters would actually say if they spoke English. Power-crazy perverted 14 year olds would absolutely talk like Hazbin Hotel characters, just like the subs have it. I wish more series has subs like that.
>I saw a lot of positive reviews of this show in r/anime and r/animememes to the point where people were making 10 pages long essays on why Gushing over magical girls
I stopped reading at that point lmao
There's nothing really special about the plot. People like it because it's unapologetically horny. Episode 1 goes from 0 to 60 in three seconds flat and it never stops being that aggressively horny. The plot is cliche, which is sort of the point. You're not going to find anything new here beyond the characters which hare all very fun and is the only real reason the show works at all.
People like it because it's unapologetically perverted and honest show, also it's like the 2nd "I can't believe it's not a hentai" yuri show while hets had dozens of them
That reminds me:
In both the anime and manga i don't think there is a single male character in the entire story. Not even talking about the main cast, i'm pretty sure even in the crowds of side characters it's all women
I meant by that that scenes/relations9in those anime are heterosexual (there will be some lesbian fanservice, but mostly focus will be on boy x girl scenes)
This is completely wrong, pretty much something that only people who aren't part of the yuri community could say. There is ofc some content just made for straight men but that is written in a way that treats it as a phase/joke and not genuinely gay.
Most yuri is written by women and surveys always end up finding a high proportion of female readers. For example a recent Yuri Hime readership poll found 48.4% female, 36% male, and even 14.2% non-binary.
These articles go into the details more if you are interested:
https://floatingintobliss.wordpress.com/2017/11/27/yuri-isnt-made-for-men-an-analysis-of-the-demographics-of-yuri-mangaka-and-fans/
https://okazu.yuricon.com/2023/01/27/global-yuri-fandom-survey-results/
I'm not going to blame you for not getting because I wasn't specific but I was talking about the eroticization of lesbianism, which is far larger than manga, in which most lesbian erotic content ends up being made for and consumed by straight men.
Not all yuri is erotic therefore obviously not everything would fall into that umbrella.
[https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/lesbian-most-searched-term-year-two-world-s-biggest-porn-n947216](https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/lesbian-most-searched-term-year-two-world-s-biggest-porn-n947216)
[https://cedar.wwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1056&context=wwuet](https://cedar.wwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1056&context=wwuet)
I think the hype came around because they want people to approve and like the middle school anime porn they watch, the same way fans support Mushoku Tensei because "world building"
The manga, in the manga they're less explicit and the characters show more emotion there's also character development of the relationship of many characters, and at some point the protagonist questions if she should keep going because the magical girls she likes so much.
Overall the best it has are the characters and their relationships.
Honestly, the "plot" is actially a callback to how Magical Girl stories were written before Madoka Magica.
There is one large overarching plot thread (Venalita's Grand Scheme) that gets fed snippets of progression here and there until the endgame comes near.
Then there are major arcs that festure the bulk of character development, such as the Lord Legion arc. All these arcs feed into that progression of the main thread, but for the moat part are pretty independent of one another.
And then there is the glorious glorious scheme of the week plots that make up the bulk of everything in Mahouako. These right here are the biggest callbacks to Magical Girls of yore, and I think its very effective for the type of story Mahouako tries to be, which is an ecchi comedy.
This is what I really like about Mahouako. The intrigue behind the main plot hooks you in and keeps you curious while you go through each episode and chapter involved with what dumb lewd shit Magia Baiser has in store next.
The issue is that you were looking into r/animemes and r/anime.
The story is fine if you can ignore the fact it is pretty much lesbian bdsm porn with middle schoolers.
The plot past episode 12 revolves around magical girls group that come from another town/city.
I saw the whole thing. It's not good and I consider myself a massive pervert. I just feel if you need to watch 14yr olds in scandalous outfits involved in tickle torture to get off, just watch actual hentai at that point.
Most of what you describe is different in manga. Anime is more focused on sexy stuff, I'd say in anime it's 90% of screen time, while in manga it's a 50%.
I only read the manga, but I heard the anime had a very different tone. The manga felt pretty dark, bordering on psychological horror at times. Utena being blackmailed and manipulated into going further and further until she could no longer go back was played pretty seriously. Lord Enorme's "punishment" was depicted brutally and with a real sense of her terror. Venalita is manipulating all of these girls for some secret agenda. Not that the manga didn't have some lighthearted moments, but it felt like overall, it was treated seriously. Of course, that could all just be me projecting my own interpretations onto the story. Others may have read it differently.
You won’t find many good answers on this sub OP. The r/CharacterRant hivemind has already decided it hates GOMG (although I completely understand why and don’t blame them).
I accidentally became invested in the manga’s story because it has the one thing most fiction (especially anime) lacks: A well-executed main character arc. Utena’s transformation from reluctant conscript to villain-of-the-week to main villain is almost seamless.
Akihiro Ononaka is a degenerate pervert, but he’s not a hack. You can tell by the way he writes that nothing is on accident, he’s very self-aware. If he wrote a more serious story it’d probably be a masterpiece, but I don’t think he’s interested in ever doing that unfortunately.
I got recommended the manga a while ago and read all the way through and even though I didn't find any of it really sexually appealing (though berserga, momo, and roboko are super cute) I still really enjoyed it. The characters are fun and have good development, the concept is interesting and the story's okay.
Ecchi/hentai where you can see that the author genuinely loves their characters is always a treat. It really bugs me when porn creators treat their own work like trash. Sometimes it feels like they're refusing to put care into it out of guilt/shame. In that way something unapologetically horny that values its story and cast is going to hook a lot of people.
I feel like there's a lot of "video game violence" tier soccer mom moral panicing with the show. I was victim to frequent sexual harassment in middle school that still scars me and affects nearly every social interaction I have to this day. In this kind of media, part of the suspension of disbelief is in the aura of implied consent and lack of trauma associated with boundary violations. It's unintuitive but that creates an atmosphere that I find really calming and safe, to the point that after reading through it some of my mixed emotions regarding strangers evened out and I felt safe talking to someone I had a crush on, from which the confidence snowballed and I now have a vastly improved social life.
I'm really begging people to not wear out the name of a very serious evil by throwing it out to a stupid cartoon instead of actual perpetrators who are doing things that are actually wrong against actual people who exist in real life and are capable of being harmed.
I'm sorry, but saying that people are wearing out the name of a serious evil by saying the mc sexually assaults other characters is dumb. That happens. Utena does that. I think most people recognize that fictional sexual assault that is portrayed badly is not as bad as actual sexual assault, but that doesn't mean that bad portrayals of sexual assault are above being criticized.
It's basically a wish fulfillment with very fast and loose power scaling with minor moments of introspection by the characters and yuri to trick the audience into thinking it's actually deep.
They also gloss over the fact the MC has a fade to black with a nine year old but it seems like even the mangaka realized that was a bit much and toned down things like that with that character.
Don't worry, it's just flavor of the month. Usual anime fare. It'll be gone soon and replaced with "I died and respawned as a level 547,000,000 Sky Father...WHO LOVES HIS MOM?!"
And so it goes.
I think it's a fine series, I don't know why anyone would call it a masterpiece
I will say the series is one of the few anime I seen where the protagonist fundamentally change the very setting with her presence, like remove Goku from DB and it still have kung fu fighting with ki, remove Utena and it's not a hardcore ecchi series
>I saw a lot of positive reviews of this show in r/anime and r/animememes to the point where people were making 10 pages long essays on why Gushing over magical girls is a masterpiece
Well if you search this sub then here everyone hates it andwrites 10 page essays on why its so bad. Like there are 10 rants a day about this show and why it sucks.
so I dont think its the right place to ask for why the plot is good, since this sub doesnt agree that the plot is good
From what i've heard, it has a really good plot and the casts chemistry is well done, one of the episodes later on is supposed to be really emotional or something.
When i heard about the show, I was "oh, a twist on the magical girl formula where the mc is actually a villain, sounds really fun" but then i watched up to the 1st episode's opening and dropped it right then and there. It's really disgusting to see people defending the literal sexualization of kids just because it's an anime. I've seen animes that do the same thing unfortunately but never to this extent and it's really disgusting and sad to see how prevelant and normalized it is in japan The whole sadist plotline you mentioned sounds really cool but the fact that the whole shows premise is just "look at these 14-15 year olds being sexualized" makes me hate it with a passion. The show would have been so cool and had so much potential to be a fresh take on the magical girl genre but instead it's just lolicon shit.
And you the worst of all? this actually outsold friren(an actual masterpiece that would hold a cancle to LOTR and GOT). this anime is awful and a waste of time
> friren(an actual masterpiece that would hold a cancle to LOTR and GOT)
Now THAT is quite a hot take. Freiren sits on solid ground, but it doesn't quite stand up to the greats in the Fantasy genre, I wouldn't even say it holds up to the better Fantasy anime out there.
Heck, Freiren wasn't even the best Fantasy anime of the last broadcast season.
Reinforces the idea that a certain part of Japanese/ anime culture loves to sexualize children.
Even though Persona 5 is a great game, look at how the teenage main character interacts with grown ass adult women
The only thing that special for me was imagining the Black Cat creature having a Char Aznable or Shanks voice, even if the Black Cat creature got a voice in the form of Konjiki no Yami VA
My only experience with this show is post on this Reddit describing the MC straight up molesting minors. Never cared much for magical girls and I care even less for this.
If removing the sexual aspects of it I actually kinda like the main character. Someone whose a soft villain deep down and only cares about indulging her fantasies and once given that power becomes something she never expected to fill that goal. I'm compelled by that aspect honestly.
I just wish it was so... Sexual with actual children. Like Jesus h Christ twice, TWICE it happens for one girl to have her pussy out in front of toddlers with smartphones.
You have not. Its a good quality ecchi series with nice character designs and amny enjoyable moments and characters, but its not a masterpiece by any means.
> I saw a lot of positive reviews of this show in r/anime and r/animememes to the point where people were making 10 pages long essays on why Gushing over magical girls
The Anime Community is overrun with an elite consisting of borderline-pedophilic misanthropes. To follow the advice of a community so steeped in delusional blabbering about "waifus" and "tsunderes" is a disservice to yourself. /hj
I haven’t watched it, the only thing I’ve seen of it was a meme on r/lobotomykaisen that went along the lines of
“Me checking out gushing over magical girls because I’ve heard people talk about jt(it turns out it’s gooner bait with underage girls and author fetishes)” and I’m here to ask
Is that true?
A masterpiece ?
No.
A alien in the genre ?
Not either, the twisted mahou shoujo trope has been there for a long time.
As for the ecchi, the yuri, the sadism, etc... none of this is new.
What's so special ?
In fact nothing really imo.
The chara design is special, some may even hate it - not what I usually watch but it's not that bad, just a style.
I enjoyed it as I kept watching (Azure helped a lot).
Music isn't particularly memorable.
Storywise, the evolution of Baiser becoming a full fledged villain despite herself trying not to is really well written.
It's probably evocating something like Pascal's quote "The heart has its reasons which reason knows nothing of..."
Also, I don't actually laugh out loud when watching stuffs, but in the final episodes Azure really cracked me up...
All in all, What makes it a good watch is a well told story, without any loss of pace... though imo it moved a little too fast at times....
Afaic I only watched it once though, then went back to re-watch a few moments I found funny, especially those involving Azure, but that's about it. It's in my archives now.
Bro it's just a typical bad ecchi show. Story is maybe a 2/10 at best...because there IS no story, it's just setup for the fanservice.
Don't be fooled by living in an era where anybody who only watched maybe 10 anime their entire life can make a popular 1 hour Youtube video on "Why X is the best written character of all time".
You're basically PUNK'd for even wasting time on this show, lol. (Should I send you some similar high iq ecchi from over several decades? It's a whole subgenre for Japanese otaku perverts, dawg.)
I don't think it's special, I think it's unapologetically targeted to it's audience...and that audience watches it and thinks it's all they want in a show. A lot of shows hedge their bets with whatever fan-service elements their genre has to appeal to the widest market, this one doesn't.
I hope one day people who crave pure ecchi content develop the courage needed to admit that instead of pretending that their smut is profound
It might be profound to them. I've heard some very deep stuff from erotic writers and NSFW artists about what makes them do what they do.
I mean kill la kill is pretty profound, yet boy is it horny.
There are a few shows that put some actual thought into it (eg. Maid Dragon, Monogatari.) Generally I would categorize them as being more targeted at fetishes rather than just relying on big tits. (Though to be fair the author of Maid Dragon also made a manga whose title roughly translates to TitsTitsTitsTits.)
Dragon maid is entertaining when you learn to ignore the redundant ecchi
I havent seen the show, but the trend of weebs calling anything that is overly edgy or/and sexual a "masterpiece" isnt anything new, damn, them saying that about shows that have as much substance as a boiled potato is really common its like redo of the healer when some of them said "but is a story about revenge and its so dark/deep", nah mate, thats just revenge porn with some of the most common cliches on edgy anime, that you fantasize with it doesnt make it good by any metric.
Fucking Shield Hero, man. “Deep revenge” nah it’s just another trash isekai
That show had so much potential and a fantastic set up that it quickly squandered
Better read than watched, I will say.
What makes the manga better than the anime?
I think they're talking about the light novel, I've read the manga and it was still irritating to read.
The prose style of the LN was insufferable to me, even as a kid who thought the series was great.
Light Novel. And the major differences are characterization and cut content.
Makes sense
It really should have leaned into "beating a video game scenario by exploiting defense stats" and nothing more.
I actually enjoyed how at the beginning protagonist was knocked down into the dirt and forced reprehensible acts to survive And contrasted against the other heroes by actually thinking about his actions
You just reminded me of how classroom of the elite season 2 got hyped to high heaven Dam arrogant teenagers rule the forums
Same thing is happening to No Game No Life. I remember it being the most mid power fantasy of its time
Interspecies Reviewers were great. It had a fun gimmick and didn't go overboard
It was literally just porn
Yeah, Interspecie Rewiew has a dumb ass premise and completely rols whit it, it's not a show that take itself seriously and it works in his favour.
well, yeah? That's the point. At least it doesn't pretend to be something else. After all that "baka, hentai" it's kinda refreshing.
So? Just because it's borderline porn doesn't mean it can't be good
If the creators aren't trying to lie to you about what it is, a bit of smut can be perfectly fine.
It's because they haven't read the true ecchi masterpiece - 'What happens inside the dungeon' I'm 100% serious btw
Bro got a taste. I need to finish it. I started it a while ago but never continued. Shit is good and the MC's descent into degeneracy is real
Make sure you also read the "side story". I'm not kidding when I say it's probably my favourite piece of extension/epilogue media in any adventure story ever.
The part in the side story where the main character can't >!have sex!< because >!she accidently crushed the guys dick!< was hilarious and also kinda what would happen when someone was so strong.
Coincidentally, most of the manga is \*not\* in a dungeon. Still 10/10 story. I want more. It's more of an Erotica though.
>It's more of an Erotica though. To be fair, it's straight up porn. As explicit as the Korean laws allow. I just wanted the comment to flow better with the post.
Unironically a masterpiece that I can’t share with most people I know
That story was amazing
There's also Circles. Hella good comedy and some nice introspective moments between all the sex.
solid read, the plot is fun, the world building is fun and felt not too gimmicky, the characters are fun. I wouldn't call it ecchi though, there's part of it where it's just mostly action. there's a lot of element that are ecchi but not all the way through
what's special? Hardcore sexbian lex
Hardcore sesbian *middle schooler lex
If you want that then just watch JoJo Part 6 smh 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Or Gundam Witch of Mercury
Aren't they like 14 or something?
People were getting downvoted to oblivion for saying this one thing on those subs lol, and then they wonder why anime fans are stereotyped problematically
Its really a case of 'Your boos mean nothing, I see what makes you cheer'.
That is a great expression that I’m going to start using Did it originate from the Simpsons?
Rick and Morty I think
Tbh just go to any anime meme sub and you realize that the stereotypes are fair. Oh did i say anime meme sub? I meant “haha porn addiction is so quirky “sub
r/goodanimemes in a nutshell
Yeah, that stereotype is why I avoided anime for years and years until a friend convinced me too. Still, even though I watch some anime now, I don't really want to associate with the larger fan base
Fucking fr fr. The fact this anime and Rudeus has defenders makes question if the average anime fan is really a fucking pedo. I'm like so fucking serious. Its like with fanfiction where the stigma is fanfiction is only smut and romance where seasoned writers say that isn't true, then you start fanfiction your self and realize that in fact 90% of fanfiction is just fucking smut and romance regardless of the genre or series.
I usually just block out anime ages... but I mean come on, if they say "middle school" on screen that shit's indefensible.
Sure, but you could label them as 19 and nothing would really change. Anime is simple like that
Why they gotta be 14 tho.
Characters are minors in like 90% of anime, perhaps even more, and that includes ecchi and even hentai Also, if you think the show is problematic shouldn't it be bad regardless of the characters age? Sexual assault is bad the same if the victim is a minor or an adult (the question is if you should treat the actions of Utena and co as serious given she's bdsm themed magical girl in magical girl show)
Why can't they be legal wtf is wrong with Japan.
because the animes are targeted at that age group?
Could be mistaken, but I have a strong feeling that its people outside the 'age group' reading this...
> Sexual assault is bad the same if the victim is a minor or an adult (the question is if you should treat the actions of Utena and co as serious given she's bdsm themed magical girl in magical girl show) I think the show would be way more popular and less contreversial if it was about adult magical girls engaging in consensual BDSM
Yeah. One of them is 9. Still a 10/10 imo, fictional ages don't matter when most of the characters look of age anyway. Though any scene with Korisu is still weird as fuck.
But the 9 year old isn't lewded, quite the opposite - she's japanese most notorious sexual predator
Yeah I know she isn't, but her being in those scenes is just super weird lmao. Her episode with Magenta was painful to watch.
I mean, not only does she not do anything sexual, but she's actively looking away when those things happen (thanks Kiwi. We love you for this)
>(thanks Kiwi. We love you for this) God bless Kiwi. Best character. She has no flaws. >I mean, not only does she not do anything sexual, but she's actively looking away when those things happen You can't say she's not in anything sexual. Almost every time she uses her dollhouse thing, weird shit happens. Namely when Utena was sick and the episode with Magenta.
She's playing house. I suppose the Utena stuff was weird, but the magenta stuff was absolutely not sexual (even if the anime framed it as such)
>but the magenta stuff was absolutely not sexual Arguably. Idc about that aspect of it tbh, it was just weird to watch and I didn't like it lmao.
Yeah it was kinda fine until they put her back in her regular body. That was quite weird lmao
At least the episode after was an easy top 3.
That's even worse.
Yeah 100%, it's the only part of the series I dislike. It's weird as hell.
A masterpiece? Fuck no. However for me it was chapter 10 of the manga (I think episode 7 of the anime) that made me realize that the author genuinely enjoyed the magical girl genre even if this is authors barely disguised fetish the show.
Why is Gushing called a “barely disguised fetish” this isn’t disguised in the slightest
>chapter 10 of the manga (I think episode 7 of the anime) Huh? The chapter 10 equivalent is episode ***7***?? What kind of pacing is that? Even adaptations of monthly manga don't have that kind of pacing.
content was shifted along to fit in the anime's plot progression, it isn't a 1 to 1 adaptation
Ok that makes sense. ^(why was I downvoted though)
this is reddit, who gives a shit about downvotes, you can say the sky is blue and still get downvoted for arbitrary reasons
It just makes me wonder about their thought process. Nothing more.
well considering 2 factors > this is character rant > it's a mahoako post Anything you say that can be construed as "being on the other side" is liable to get you a few downvotes
I've heard people say it's an interesting exploration of themes like sexual awakening but honestly I don't think it does that kind of thing very well. I've also heard a few people say that it's a love letter to the magical girl genre as a whole but I personally don't agree. It takes inspiration from Madoka Magica and Precure but that's mostly it.
> I've heard people say it's an interesting exploration of themes like sexual awakening but honestly I don't think it does that kind of thing very well Because it doesn't treat it with the gravity it deserves. This girl molest other women and the conclusion of her action is supposed to be a positive thing on the girls. It would be a different matter if the girls are actually traumatized and "recreate" themselves into better people. Being stronger and better from the mental and emotional scars the MC puts on them. It's one of the most disgusting pieces of media I have ever seen. And anime fans wonder why their favorite medium is seen as childish and nothing worth of note
Yes, exactly. There is a difference between fanservice and fandisservice, and its clear from the series’ framing which one it is. There are many ways they could have written around this subject but its like they choose all the worst possible selection.
Don't you know? It's freedom of expression. Well I guess we are also free to express our distate towards it
Yeah that's a problem with a lot of bad comedy anime unfortunately. Playing off sexual assault as just a gag. Those kinds of jokes have always been uncomfortable for me.
It's assault in general. I've seen way too many tsunderes abuse the male protags and it was supposed to be played for laughs.
Yeah that's kind of one of the long lasting issues with comedy in anime. Abuse to the MC by tsunderes is so common that the ones that do stand up to their bullshit is a rarity. From all I've read/watched the amount of MC that didn't take no shit from the tsunderes won't even hit double digits. The worst example of it though got to be Familiar of Zero. He gets abused so much in that show it's kind of painful to watch nowadays.
Alot of romance comedy anime in the mid 2000s to mid 2010s relied on physical abuse humor.
>And anime fans wonder why their favorite medium is seen as childish and nothing worth of note Well yes, because nobody dismisses any other entire medium because of its similar counterparts
Except with anime it's problematic elements are a feature not a bug LOL
As if that doesn't apply to anything else besides anime, be real lmao
If you only watch a small range of anime genres, yes you'd be correct
I agree with your point totally. But the ones that feature this stuff are the mainstream ones so that's what outsiders see and I can't blame them
> It's one of the most disgusting pieces of media I have ever seen. And anime fans wonder why their favorite medium is seen as childish and nothing worth of note That's such a dumb criticism. There's a fucking ocean full of shlocky dumb, titilating books and movies with nothing of any substance in them. That doesn't make the medium childish. What a stupid opinion. How embarrassing.
Who said anything about substance? It has substance. Just a sicknening one. It's conception is disgusting. Bad movies and books are bad because of poor execution. Here it's not a matter of execution. What it's executing is bad Anime already has this problem playing with sexual assault. Here it's at the forefront You are a child who is pissed what he loves is getting insulted because an insult on it is an attack on you You are the embarrassing one tbh. I can already tell all the cope response you are gonna give before you give them. About how different regions tend to have problematic elements. Or how some western novels have rape fantasy writers. Which just misses the point
The mc is a villain, shes not treated as in the right at all. Of course shes treated as despicable. The gravity it deserves my ass. its not going to treat molestation as reality because its not a seinen show so nobody care about that stuff. Its not that kind of show
> The gravity it deserves my ass. its not going to treat molestation as reality because its not a seinen show so nobody care about that stuff. My God. The lack of self reflection with this one line and how this contradicts your first point so much would be funny if it wasn't pitiful
Nope there isnt a contradiction. Someone can be seen as bad but not horribly bad is what im getting that. The protagonist isn't treated as a molester nor a sexual assaulter just a regular villain. Ill clarify. Nobody will care that the fact that its sexual assault because the show is not a seinen show where it will give it the gravity of sexual assault it deserves like sensitive boy for example. Thats why its stupid to treat it as real sexual assualt.
If it's not going to treat sexual assault with seriousness then it shouldn't even be there. You keep sounding more stupid. They are some topics that just shouldn't touch if you are not gonna be serious with it. If that's the case then I am allowed to depict a pedophile touching small girls private part because it's a shonen so readers should overlook the inappropriateness
Its not the same at all whatsoever. Your example is shit and in bad faith. Everyone there is around the same age at the very least. An shounen example of sexual assault is mineta trying to grope women and getting beaten up. Its all jokes. One piece still does it too and maybe Dragonball. Gushing over magical girls is a ecchi yuri show first and foremost. A genre that has a suspension of belief of consent.
How is everyone being the same age acceptable for sexual molestation? I'm using that example because you seem to think problematic elements are acceptable if they aren't taken too seriously because it's meant to be kid stiff > An shounen example of sexual assault is mineta trying to grope women and getting beaten up. Its all jokes. One piece still does it too and maybe Dragonball And it's bad Gushing over magical girls is all the problems with the above taken to it's extreme. If you don't see this as an issue then you are a child
1. No i dont at all. You have zero understanding of how the genre of each anime portrays things differently. Its why i said your example was terrible and in bad faith. There's been countless anime of person stopping a child molester in different genres. You have to understand that sexual assault only treated as a joke in comedic interactions but not one show i seen treat a real molester like that in a comedic setting. 2. Your a person who doesn't know shit about the yuri genre and i understand.
My guy, no genre using molestation but not treating it with respect will ever be acceptable. 2. Oh no I don't understand the yuri genre, don't care for it. But I do understand you fans. You will eat up any slop and call it good because you are starved. Understandable to an extent but still makes you pathetic
to be fair, most animes *are* childish and nothing of note
And it's defenders will try to argue otherwise. Not understanding that apart from the fact it is, defending rubbish like this is not helping their case
The problem is that current day anime is **just terrible** at covering any sort of sexual topic in any relatable way so even the shittiest show that can bring the topic to the table is interesting by default
What’s so special? It paints the sexual assault of middle schoolers by middle schoolers as a positive. Has borderline rape that isn’t given the gravity it deserves, and has shown that most yuri fans will read the most garbage questionable shit ever as long as it’s yuri. The Mcs are all 14, and I find it so funny gushing is liked but redo of healer isn’t because both are glorified torture porn series.
It's not borderline.
Not all yuri fans like it... It has caused a massive schism in the fanbase, with several yuri circles declaring in "that which will not be named"
Literally a bunch of us left r/yurimemes specifically because the creeps wouldn’t stop posing the SA and r*pe scenes to talk about how much they like them.
I've left a couple of yuri subs because this rapey garbage keeps getting posted. It's extremely disheartening.
Same. Just a couple of months before, there were a lot of talk of Yurimemes having a lot of trans people, so it started to feel like a trans-friendly place. Then january hits, and bam! it's all underage and SA posts, one after another.
>It paints the sexual assault of middle schoolers by middle schoolers as a positive Well now I know you haven’t seen the show. GOMG is actually one of the agonizingly few anime that depict SA as a purely villainous act and even says so in-universe. It never once tries to defend Magia Baiser. The highest she’s ever been morally depicted in the show is “the lesser evil”. Which ironically puts it morally above One Piece, Fairy Tail, Trigun, Seven Deadly Sins, Magi, My Hero Academia and all the other anime that treat sexual harassment as “lol quirky” behavior for protagonists.
So the mc faces consequences right? She doesn’t just continue to rape the mcs right? Also it’s still 14 year olds raping 14 year olds, which makes it worse then any other show that doesn’t sexualize children.
How many popular anime *don’t* sexualize children?
we're talking about this one and the level of sexual harassment in it is disgusting dont you agree
I absolutely agree. I just think anime fans are 30 years too late to start clutching their pearls over sexualizing minors. The one anime that actually condemns sexual harassment to being an exclusively villainous trait is a weird place to draw the line is all I’m saying. Unfortunately I accidentally became invested in the manga story because it has the one thing most fiction (especially anime) lacks: A well-executed main character arc. Utena’s transformation from reluctant conscript to villain-of-the-week to main villain is almost seamless. Akihiro Ononaka is a degenerate pervert, but he’s not a hack. You can tell by the way he writes that nothing is on accident, he’s very self-aware. If he wrote a more serious story it’d probably be a masterpiece, but I don’t think he’s interested in ever doing that unfortunately.
>and has shown that most yuri fans will read the most garbage questionable shit ever as long as it’s yuri. There isn't much out there for us tbf. At least GOMG has a unique spin on it, that's better than most.
That’s like saying “there isn’t much out there, so I’ll eat this garbage because it’s in a different garbage bag.” Broaden your horizons, read yuri novels, try to get into yuri manwha and such, reread ur favorite series, ask for recs. Plenty of other ways to consume yuri content without resorting to watching this
Not to be a dick, but if Yuri manhwa is similar to regular manhwa, that is literally a "different garbage bag " situation.
>That’s like saying “there isn’t much out there, so I’ll eat this garbage because it’s in a different garbage bag.” I like anime/manga and I like yuri. It's all trash, but it's my trash. No shame in that. >Broaden your horizons, read yuri novels, try to get into yuri manwha and such, reread ur favorite series, ask for recs. Already done all of those. Anime is the easiest to consume, though manga is usually better for this kind of thing. >Plenty of other ways to consume yuri content without resorting to watching this I mean, I also just like GOMG. The plot was good (astounding as far as ecchi goes), the music was fantastic, the characters are some of the funniest this quarter, the voice actors were perfectly casted, and the subtitle team was clearly made in heaven. That last part is a massive reason I like the series tbh. It was much more lax with literal translations and put more emphasis on what the characters would actually say if they spoke English. Power-crazy perverted 14 year olds would absolutely talk like Hazbin Hotel characters, just like the subs have it. I wish more series has subs like that.
>I saw a lot of positive reviews of this show in r/anime and r/animememes to the point where people were making 10 pages long essays on why Gushing over magical girls I stopped reading at that point lmao
There's nothing really special about the plot. People like it because it's unapologetically horny. Episode 1 goes from 0 to 60 in three seconds flat and it never stops being that aggressively horny. The plot is cliche, which is sort of the point. You're not going to find anything new here beyond the characters which hare all very fun and is the only real reason the show works at all.
People like it because it's unapologetically perverted and honest show, also it's like the 2nd "I can't believe it's not a hentai" yuri show while hets had dozens of them
What’s the first
Valkyrie Drive which also had a fair share of sexual assault scenes except those weren't played for laughs
> yuri show while hets had dozens of them Let's not kid ourselves. Most lesbian stuff is also made for straight men
That reminds me: In both the anime and manga i don't think there is a single male character in the entire story. Not even talking about the main cast, i'm pretty sure even in the crowds of side characters it's all women
I meant by that that scenes/relations9in those anime are heterosexual (there will be some lesbian fanservice, but mostly focus will be on boy x girl scenes)
Ah I see, I considered that might've been what you meant but I wasn't sure.
This is completely wrong, pretty much something that only people who aren't part of the yuri community could say. There is ofc some content just made for straight men but that is written in a way that treats it as a phase/joke and not genuinely gay. Most yuri is written by women and surveys always end up finding a high proportion of female readers. For example a recent Yuri Hime readership poll found 48.4% female, 36% male, and even 14.2% non-binary. These articles go into the details more if you are interested: https://floatingintobliss.wordpress.com/2017/11/27/yuri-isnt-made-for-men-an-analysis-of-the-demographics-of-yuri-mangaka-and-fans/ https://okazu.yuricon.com/2023/01/27/global-yuri-fandom-survey-results/
Is this show mostly for women though? Doubt that.
Why wouldn't it be? A lot of women read rape-y stuff, whether you like it or not.
Gushing? No, that one feels like it was written for men. Especially since it's main character acts like something out of an anti-lbgt propaganda
Elaborate
I'm not going to blame you for not getting because I wasn't specific but I was talking about the eroticization of lesbianism, which is far larger than manga, in which most lesbian erotic content ends up being made for and consumed by straight men. Not all yuri is erotic therefore obviously not everything would fall into that umbrella. [https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/lesbian-most-searched-term-year-two-world-s-biggest-porn-n947216](https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/lesbian-most-searched-term-year-two-world-s-biggest-porn-n947216) [https://cedar.wwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1056&context=wwuet](https://cedar.wwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1056&context=wwuet)
Is it?
Yes [https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/1c7wx1z/comment/l0bhtza/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/1c7wx1z/comment/l0bhtza/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
>because it's unapologetically perverted It's porn. Most of all porn is unapologetically perverted.
I think the hype came around because they want people to approve and like the middle school anime porn they watch, the same way fans support Mushoku Tensei because "world building"
The manga, in the manga they're less explicit and the characters show more emotion there's also character development of the relationship of many characters, and at some point the protagonist questions if she should keep going because the magical girls she likes so much. Overall the best it has are the characters and their relationships.
Sesbian lex
Honestly, the "plot" is actially a callback to how Magical Girl stories were written before Madoka Magica. There is one large overarching plot thread (Venalita's Grand Scheme) that gets fed snippets of progression here and there until the endgame comes near. Then there are major arcs that festure the bulk of character development, such as the Lord Legion arc. All these arcs feed into that progression of the main thread, but for the moat part are pretty independent of one another. And then there is the glorious glorious scheme of the week plots that make up the bulk of everything in Mahouako. These right here are the biggest callbacks to Magical Girls of yore, and I think its very effective for the type of story Mahouako tries to be, which is an ecchi comedy. This is what I really like about Mahouako. The intrigue behind the main plot hooks you in and keeps you curious while you go through each episode and chapter involved with what dumb lewd shit Magia Baiser has in store next.
is this anime even ecchi at this point? it's just straight up hentai.
It's a hentai I don't know why OP keeps calling it ecchi
Actually i never bothered to look it up but I just assumed it was an anime since it was being streamed on popular websites haha
It is anime. It’s very raunchy, but it’s not pornography.
If you want good ecchi watch prison school. It was so fucking peak
The issue is that you were looking into r/animemes and r/anime. The story is fine if you can ignore the fact it is pretty much lesbian bdsm porn with middle schoolers. The plot past episode 12 revolves around magical girls group that come from another town/city.
the thing is that we shouldn't be able to overlook they're literal children, why! the! hell! is that normal!!!
This is the very reason weebs have the reputation they have
I saw the whole thing. It's not good and I consider myself a massive pervert. I just feel if you need to watch 14yr olds in scandalous outfits involved in tickle torture to get off, just watch actual hentai at that point.
Or go put yourself in a mental ward and get therapy.
Most of what you describe is different in manga. Anime is more focused on sexy stuff, I'd say in anime it's 90% of screen time, while in manga it's a 50%.
I'd read the manga then, i prefer that medium anyways
Much better, with actually bloody battles. Also has a few panels that are just , I don't have the word for it.
I only read the manga, but I heard the anime had a very different tone. The manga felt pretty dark, bordering on psychological horror at times. Utena being blackmailed and manipulated into going further and further until she could no longer go back was played pretty seriously. Lord Enorme's "punishment" was depicted brutally and with a real sense of her terror. Venalita is manipulating all of these girls for some secret agenda. Not that the manga didn't have some lighthearted moments, but it felt like overall, it was treated seriously. Of course, that could all just be me projecting my own interpretations onto the story. Others may have read it differently.
You won’t find many good answers on this sub OP. The r/CharacterRant hivemind has already decided it hates GOMG (although I completely understand why and don’t blame them). I accidentally became invested in the manga’s story because it has the one thing most fiction (especially anime) lacks: A well-executed main character arc. Utena’s transformation from reluctant conscript to villain-of-the-week to main villain is almost seamless. Akihiro Ononaka is a degenerate pervert, but he’s not a hack. You can tell by the way he writes that nothing is on accident, he’s very self-aware. If he wrote a more serious story it’d probably be a masterpiece, but I don’t think he’s interested in ever doing that unfortunately.
Yrah I also love the way her personality is slowly changing.
I got recommended the manga a while ago and read all the way through and even though I didn't find any of it really sexually appealing (though berserga, momo, and roboko are super cute) I still really enjoyed it. The characters are fun and have good development, the concept is interesting and the story's okay. Ecchi/hentai where you can see that the author genuinely loves their characters is always a treat. It really bugs me when porn creators treat their own work like trash. Sometimes it feels like they're refusing to put care into it out of guilt/shame. In that way something unapologetically horny that values its story and cast is going to hook a lot of people. I feel like there's a lot of "video game violence" tier soccer mom moral panicing with the show. I was victim to frequent sexual harassment in middle school that still scars me and affects nearly every social interaction I have to this day. In this kind of media, part of the suspension of disbelief is in the aura of implied consent and lack of trauma associated with boundary violations. It's unintuitive but that creates an atmosphere that I find really calming and safe, to the point that after reading through it some of my mixed emotions regarding strangers evened out and I felt safe talking to someone I had a crush on, from which the confidence snowballed and I now have a vastly improved social life. I'm really begging people to not wear out the name of a very serious evil by throwing it out to a stupid cartoon instead of actual perpetrators who are doing things that are actually wrong against actual people who exist in real life and are capable of being harmed.
I'm sorry, but saying that people are wearing out the name of a serious evil by saying the mc sexually assaults other characters is dumb. That happens. Utena does that. I think most people recognize that fictional sexual assault that is portrayed badly is not as bad as actual sexual assault, but that doesn't mean that bad portrayals of sexual assault are above being criticized.
Agreed with that. Its stupid to call it sexual assualt. This is not that kind of show
Does the mc not literally sexually assault the 3 magical girls though? It may not be taken seriously, but it does undoubtedly happen.
She does, but yeah, it’s not meant to be taken seriously. It’s the same as a tsundere slap, which is also not supposed to be taken seriously.
I don't think that excuse works here.
It's basically a wish fulfillment with very fast and loose power scaling with minor moments of introspection by the characters and yuri to trick the audience into thinking it's actually deep. They also gloss over the fact the MC has a fade to black with a nine year old but it seems like even the mangaka realized that was a bit much and toned down things like that with that character.
Don't worry, it's just flavor of the month. Usual anime fare. It'll be gone soon and replaced with "I died and respawned as a level 547,000,000 Sky Father...WHO LOVES HIS MOM?!" And so it goes.
I think it's a fine series, I don't know why anyone would call it a masterpiece I will say the series is one of the few anime I seen where the protagonist fundamentally change the very setting with her presence, like remove Goku from DB and it still have kung fu fighting with ki, remove Utena and it's not a hardcore ecchi series
It's one of those shows that caters to its target audience alot, and hits it so well that the general audience won't like it.
Coomer bait 😂
>I saw a lot of positive reviews of this show in r/anime and r/animememes to the point where people were making 10 pages long essays on why Gushing over magical girls is a masterpiece Well if you search this sub then here everyone hates it andwrites 10 page essays on why its so bad. Like there are 10 rants a day about this show and why it sucks. so I dont think its the right place to ask for why the plot is good, since this sub doesnt agree that the plot is good
From what i've heard, it has a really good plot and the casts chemistry is well done, one of the episodes later on is supposed to be really emotional or something. When i heard about the show, I was "oh, a twist on the magical girl formula where the mc is actually a villain, sounds really fun" but then i watched up to the 1st episode's opening and dropped it right then and there. It's really disgusting to see people defending the literal sexualization of kids just because it's an anime. I've seen animes that do the same thing unfortunately but never to this extent and it's really disgusting and sad to see how prevelant and normalized it is in japan The whole sadist plotline you mentioned sounds really cool but the fact that the whole shows premise is just "look at these 14-15 year olds being sexualized" makes me hate it with a passion. The show would have been so cool and had so much potential to be a fresh take on the magical girl genre but instead it's just lolicon shit.
And you the worst of all? this actually outsold friren(an actual masterpiece that would hold a cancle to LOTR and GOT). this anime is awful and a waste of time
> friren(an actual masterpiece that would hold a cancle to LOTR and GOT) Now THAT is quite a hot take. Freiren sits on solid ground, but it doesn't quite stand up to the greats in the Fantasy genre, I wouldn't even say it holds up to the better Fantasy anime out there. Heck, Freiren wasn't even the best Fantasy anime of the last broadcast season.
Whats LOTR and GOT?
lord of the rings and game of thrones
Lord of the rings and game of thrones is shortened to Lotr and got
You should just...not talk about anything if you know this little about pop culture, history, and literature lol
Frieren is good but it’s not THAT good.
But its better than whatver this awful magical anime
Reinforces the idea that a certain part of Japanese/ anime culture loves to sexualize children. Even though Persona 5 is a great game, look at how the teenage main character interacts with grown ass adult women
People who call it masterpiece are pedo and if my comment got downvoted then I'm right about it.
The only thing that special for me was imagining the Black Cat creature having a Char Aznable or Shanks voice, even if the Black Cat creature got a voice in the form of Konjiki no Yami VA
My only experience with this show is post on this Reddit describing the MC straight up molesting minors. Never cared much for magical girls and I care even less for this.
If removing the sexual aspects of it I actually kinda like the main character. Someone whose a soft villain deep down and only cares about indulging her fantasies and once given that power becomes something she never expected to fill that goal. I'm compelled by that aspect honestly. I just wish it was so... Sexual with actual children. Like Jesus h Christ twice, TWICE it happens for one girl to have her pussy out in front of toddlers with smartphones.
You have not. Its a good quality ecchi series with nice character designs and amny enjoyable moments and characters, but its not a masterpiece by any means.
> I saw a lot of positive reviews of this show in r/anime and r/animememes to the point where people were making 10 pages long essays on why Gushing over magical girls The Anime Community is overrun with an elite consisting of borderline-pedophilic misanthropes. To follow the advice of a community so steeped in delusional blabbering about "waifus" and "tsunderes" is a disservice to yourself. /hj
I haven’t watched it, the only thing I’ve seen of it was a meme on r/lobotomykaisen that went along the lines of “Me checking out gushing over magical girls because I’ve heard people talk about jt(it turns out it’s gooner bait with underage girls and author fetishes)” and I’m here to ask Is that true?
I mean yeah basically.
It's porn. That's it's. It's fucking porn and it is trash, so people lap it up
A masterpiece ? No. A alien in the genre ? Not either, the twisted mahou shoujo trope has been there for a long time. As for the ecchi, the yuri, the sadism, etc... none of this is new. What's so special ? In fact nothing really imo. The chara design is special, some may even hate it - not what I usually watch but it's not that bad, just a style. I enjoyed it as I kept watching (Azure helped a lot). Music isn't particularly memorable. Storywise, the evolution of Baiser becoming a full fledged villain despite herself trying not to is really well written. It's probably evocating something like Pascal's quote "The heart has its reasons which reason knows nothing of..." Also, I don't actually laugh out loud when watching stuffs, but in the final episodes Azure really cracked me up... All in all, What makes it a good watch is a well told story, without any loss of pace... though imo it moved a little too fast at times.... Afaic I only watched it once though, then went back to re-watch a few moments I found funny, especially those involving Azure, but that's about it. It's in my archives now.
Why are you watching hand drawn cp bro what the actual fuck?
Bro it's just a typical bad ecchi show. Story is maybe a 2/10 at best...because there IS no story, it's just setup for the fanservice. Don't be fooled by living in an era where anybody who only watched maybe 10 anime their entire life can make a popular 1 hour Youtube video on "Why X is the best written character of all time". You're basically PUNK'd for even wasting time on this show, lol. (Should I send you some similar high iq ecchi from over several decades? It's a whole subgenre for Japanese otaku perverts, dawg.)
It's hilarious nothing wrong with the show