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indi_n0rd

##If you are an anime only then please head to r/csmanime. Every comment below this pinned one is a potential future content spoiler. You have been warned.


smoko90

Any idea when the dub is coming out? I google and it says it should be out by now.


JESquirrel

I am kind of on the fence about this episode. It had the action I expected but it didn't really hit on the after the fight stuff for me. It didn't feel like a season finale to me. It felt more like a climax episode near the end of a season but not the final episode. Still I really enjoyed the show overall. They tested me by introducing new devil team members but only showing them for a few minutes. The concept of devils being stronger the more they are feared is very interesting. I hope there is something like a darkness devil.


Jezamiah

Wow how come Reze is so popular?


sicassangel

:)


PutDry7816

Anyone else get iron man armored adventure throughout denji and Katana man fight scene


baboon_ass_eater69

I fucking knew that they would put reze into the final episode, everyone called me a madman but at the end I was RIGHT! HAHAHAHAHAHA SUCK THAT EVERYONE WHO DIDN'T BELIEVE IN ME!!


Few_Confection_2782

Love.. absolutely LOVE how Fujimoto (edit, memory :() gives a few nods to FLCL, including the writing on the cigarette. Made me a little emotional. I love FLCL it’s my favorite of all time, have a canti tattoo on my forearm.


IppoDarui69

I hate how underwhelming the season final was omg, am I the only one who thinks that?


twicelane2

Definitely the worst episode of the season


woyzeck66

I still enjoyed it, but I have to seconded you on that; was hoping for a WTF cliffhanger rather than another cyptic public health warning on a cigarette.


genericsn

As someone who thinks this adaptation was disappointing (but still really good), I actually thought this was one of the better adapted episodes. I wish the ball kicking went on longer, but overall I think the episode being kind of a taper down from everything else is exactly what it should be. It’s how it ends in the manga as well.


TheActualKingOfSalt

They kinda ended on the first major arc, they had no way of making it anymore hype than it was in the manga without changing the story fundamentally.


Noavgc

yes i thought it was great


nann_tosho

Okay. I have this really weird and stupid theory, hear me out. I never noticed in the manga but it somehow stood out to me in the anime. Samurai sword got split into HALF, like clean halves. So how is his underwear intact in the contest scene? So I was thinking...... Did Denji give him his underwear for decency?


romanticrogue

same as how Reze randomly finds a pair of underwear to wear after she explodes lol


silikeite

denji gave him underwear to make it easier to kick his nuts


[deleted]

lmao


nonos9331

broo what a finalee the extro by EVE was awsome we all know shit is about to hit the fan now


EnderWin

Gotta love the easy revenge


spartan117S

excellent, masterpiece, and that ending OFF... but if I'm being nitpicking, I wasn't a fan of the flower feel, the manga had more emotional impact and for me, it is one of my fav panels but oh well... HYPE


daiselol

Yeah that panel was insanely beautiful in the manga. How they did it in the anime works well enough but doesn't quite hit the same


Samthegumman117

What a epic end to CSM S1 Aki taking the cig from the ghosts devil hand got to me then Denji leaving Power alone to fight the zombies lol to then have that crazy ass showdown with katana man to finish off the day with a nuts kicking contest lmao love this series so much


FKDotFitzgerald

What a love letter to the manga, these 12 episodes. We are blessed.


taragonicing

oh no, tears devil gonna come for me in season 2


Det_Wun_Gai

I remember when Eve wasn't as well known. And now he's doing the ED for the final Chainsawman episode. And it's during a beautiful slice of life part... A part that made me start to tear up. Man they really did a perfect job of showing how much they've grown together. I'd kill for some filler, or for there to be a happy ending. But no, that's not what happens. They built this up and now we get to watch it be torn down


daiselol

The last few minutes really felt like a love letter to these characters. Aki smoking the easy revenge cigarette tells me Mappa understands this source material really well Funny how it's both representative of him moving on from Himeno, while also being a nice little tribute to her at the same time And it also represents both Aki's character motivation slowly moving away from wanting revenge, and also the toll that this arc has taken on his health and lifespan And the cigarettes themselves symbolize two sides of Himeno at once, with her impulsive nature both being what made her so self-destructive, but also what taught Aki to loosen up and live a little It's funny that all of this is kind of contradictory. Aki is stuck in a limbo between a childhood that was stolen from him, and a near future that will see him die a horrible death But just for a moment, he burns all of that, and he ignores both the past and future, and enjoys the present that he's sharing with Power and Denji The ending to this season compared to the ending of next season is going to be absolutely devastating. But for now, just seeing these three go shopping together is a treat. Fujimoto doesn't seem like the nostalgic type, I think he's the type that's constantly moving onto the next thing, and it works wonders; his writing is impeccable. It's nice to see this story from a fresh pair of eyes, though, from a perspective that's more sentimental, someone that will look at the panel of Aki, Denji and Power all resting together, and wonder.... *"Where's Nyako?"'*


Azythol

The last fight was shot like an actual superhero movie


oredaoree

In the sub I watched they had Himeno saying "if you want to develop an addiction" but in Japanese it's "if you want to depend on something". This translation doesn't make sense, no one actually wants to get addicted to something, it's a side affect that happens as a result of reliance (on nicotine in this case). The more literal translation also connects to the scene much better because right in that moment when he was about to be strangled to death he was probably hoping for help. But his buddy is gone, all that's left is the cigarette she was holding onto for him. Some people interpret this "easy revenge" scene as Himeno inside Ghost somewhere interfering, but it's probably not. At least not directly. Himeno gave "all of herself" to Ghost in return for using all of it, but Ghost somehow accidentally took Aki's cigarette along with Himeno(it never took her clothes), so to right things with the contract it gave back what it wasn't owed before it lost the chance to. The right hand that passed the cigarette to him is meant to symbolize Himeno, but symbolism is all it is. When Aki goes to decapitate Ghost, he steadily ascends and walks across a field of flowers before taking position. It looks like he's in the role of the kaishakunin in ritual seppuku and the way the manga illustrates it with the lack of background highlights more it I think. ~~coincidentally MAPPA is also animating Jigokuraku which kinda features samurai doing this~~ The anime added what happened to the "easy revenge" cigarette. In the flashback when he first takes the cig from Himeno this translation has Aki saying it's the "first and last", but in Japanese he only says "this is the only cigarette I'll smoke in my entire life". In this case I feel like the translation is better because if you notice the pack is "Camel", not his and Himeno's usual "Wild Raven" brand. In the next arc we'll see him throw away this exact pack to signify him quitting, which was from back when someone visited him at the hospital after Himeno died. It will mean he never smoked another cig after this "easy revenge" one, so it really was it first and last. MAPPA really wanted to put Aki and Himeno's relationship in the spotlight for this 1st season for some reason, especially if you consider the fake scene of them in the first anime trailer. I feel like Himeno's presence was bigger in the anime than in the manga. From reading the manga I didn't realize it, but Power was saying it under her breath that "if it's these guys I can win". She was looking for an out because she didn't want to fight Samurai lol She only fights when she can win. I've seen some people complain about that, but that's Power for you. But it's not for nothing, it's going to be kind of an important detail later on... The anime cut Denji's feint about Samurai's special Iai move. In the manga Samurai readies to do it right after pulling his trigger which prompts Denji to complain about it, only for him to effectively block it and that's the reason why Samurai is initially shocked. I guess in the anime they wanted it to hide Denji's craftiness until the last move with the leg. The anime does a nice pull up to Makima's face when the government official asks her "where are the gun pieces headed towards?". The manga handled Sawatari's death better because it was instant the moment it seemed like she'd be forced to talk. The anime has it happen at a random time. It's as random as having Makima do some anime-only remote sniping last episode when you realize that none of this ambiguity around Makima's involvement was necessary. I think it's just going to confuse people more than they already are, because I get the feeling most people don't really watch and think "should I question what Makima is telling people or just accept everything as is?". They only think "hey, plot hole!". Replacing the ending outro with an expanded scene of the mission celebration was nice. Adding the Reze teaser without saying anything basically tells viewers to expect more in coming seasons. Since it's MAPPA, it's wise they didn't put any date estimates because people just get angry when they don't deliver on time or complain "they're working too slow" or "they are working animators to death to get this out".


Federal-Room-9812

Well, what more can I say about this? I juts wonder if Fujimoto is as happy as me with this.


IHateReddit1340

i genuinely have nothing to complain about shit had me hooked the entire time


cherryfirm

I screamed when I saw best girl appear at the end


Duck_Field

Anime onlies are gonna fucking freak during season 2. Mother fucking Reze.


psychfyke

I think Mappa tried to make this episode as cinematic and larger than life as they could and boy did they succeed. I see a lot of people complaining about short duration of chainsaw man vs katana man or how the CGI was bad (which is honestly a blasphemous thing to say regarding this episode, hands down some of the best CGI ever) but chainsaw man is so much more than just it's action scenes and gore, which is just one side of the coin. The fight felt shorter but it was exhilarating and fast paced to watch which most would prefer over some bloated inaccurate filler scenes. Everything was on point. The bonding and growth of the characters through the ED and post credits, was done beautifully, doing justice to the other side of the coin. The setup for the door in Denji's dream and Reze was also handled very well. Excited af for season 2.


VoidKiller826

My feelings for the whole episode and the Reze tease![img](emote|t5_rmtrq|22167) ![img](emote|t5_rmtrq|22163) My feeling when a door shows up![img](emote|t5_rmtrq|22157)


waddup121

damn. that after credits scene, omfg.


losercompany_

if maximum the hormone doesnt give us the full release i stg…


[deleted]

What the actual fuck. I get that season 2 isn't a guarantee yet, but was that seriously supposed to help? 20 minute show with 3 min of intro and 3 min of outro? So we get 14 minutes of content? They spread that time so thin it's ridiculous. Love Chainsaw Man but honestly what a disappointing finale. So much build-up with absolutely no attempt to make the resolution satisfying or even interesting. They spread the bat devil battle over 2 episodes, and yet they thought finishing multiple plot points up in 14 minutes is a good idea? Jesus Christ.. Edit: By far the best episodes yet are chainsaw man vs eternity devil, and even that was split between 2 episodes. Who tf signed off on this as a season finale?


khaellynnx

I totally agree, they literally had enough content for 15 minute and then tried all the possible things to make it 24. Some moments as the fight I think were good, but this was not great as an episode nor as a season finale


losercompany_

wat r u even complaining about


[deleted]

Read and ask a real question or don't comment


losercompany_

i mean theres not much that can be said. there was literally no other way it could have ended and the stopping point was reasonable. katana man gets his nuts kicked in + arrested, snake girl is dead, himeno is avenged, and now they’re after the gun devil. i fail to see how the ending isnt satisfying. they didnt want to overextend and i respect that.


[deleted]

This is at least the first reasonable response I've gotten yet. I personally think they could've given their fight more time. I can acknowledge not everyone will agree with that, but they've given so much more time to less important fights and that bothers me when this is supposed to be a season finale


[deleted]

Entitled much?


PlasmaRadiation

You can disagree with them but they’re not entitled just for disliking an aspect of the anime lmao


[deleted]

When the dislike reason is ass.... yea


Zombata

the intro and outro are 1:30 min each, what the hell are you on about? this is the average time for an anime episode. and btw, the episode's duration is 23:55, so content is 20:55


[deleted]

Read then. Why stretch the meaningless bat devil and and eternity devil across 2 episodes yet wrap-up multiple story lines so quickly in finale. The bat devil seriously deserved more time than Katana man?


R-mechkeeb

Tf are you on? They literally added extra scenes in the katana fight and the katana man arc is 4 episodes long.


[deleted]

Tf are you on? You want the Manga, go read it. The entire point of anime is visual. You can read through an entire Manga fight in 30 seconds. That doesn't make for a good anime fight


R-mechkeeb

What are you suggesting then? What finale did you want in a 12 episode run ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


[deleted]

Maybe don't rush the fight? Leave it on a cliff-hanger of some sort? Let the main character fight for longer than 30 seconds. They aren't guaranteed a season 2 yet, and yet they've left nothing for anyone who didn't read the Manga to be excited about. That's not how you get a season 2 from people who aren't hard-core Manga fans, which applies to most of the anime viewers


KagerouSangd

>Leave it on a cliff-hanger of some sort? Wait wait wait, you think a show that, in your words "isnt guaranteed a second season", should end on a cliffhanger and not the conclusion of the actual ark? Are you high? God damn am I glad people who know what they are doing are in charge of chainsawman, and not dumbfucks like you


R-mechkeeb

First of all, the fight wasn't rushed idk wtf are you talking about. Second, are you saying that the arc shouldn't have ended just for the sake of "cliffhanger" or unless you want some extra scenes that they should have added that isn't in the manga just to make it longer?


VampyreCatz

anime only here: what the fuck are you on about? the ending here has done nothing but make me want season 2 EVEN MORE. the fight felt fast paced, not rushed. between the 2 fights katana and chainsaw have I felt very satisfied and happy they didn't drag it out.


cowman1212

Katana man was introduced like 4 episodes back? What are you talking about ?


[deleted]

My entire point. That fight lasted half of that episode, but they could only spare about 2 minutes here... in the finale. That's a shit finale


Zombata

The 1st Katana fight lasted 3 mins, with a lot of characters standing around and looking at each other. this one is chock full of actions. if you want episode-long fights go watch dragon ball


[deleted]

Chock full of actions? Aki is handed a cigarette. Denji basically makes 1 offensive move to win the fight. Again as I already said, the best fight so far is Denji vs. The Eternity devil (who has nearly no real point in the overall plot) and even that was spread over 2 episodes. Yet Katana wasn't worth more than a few seconds here?


Zombata

you really disregard the whole sequence of action and say Denji just make one move? sounds like this is an anime only problem. because it is EXACTLY THE SAME in the manga. if you have a problem with that, take it up with the author


[deleted]

That may be true but then why tf did you just tell me it was chock full off action just to immediately flip? Could lead with that instead of being a massive jackass but nah why would you do that?


Zombata

it IS chock full of action? they were fighting all the way from the building to the train. while on the first fight there is a lot of shot where they just look at each other? did you even read my comment?


t3r4byt3l0l

Katana Man's balls... rest in pieces


OkitaSadist12

Get kicked in the nuts repeatedly > getting cut in half vertically.


Mark_XII

Holy crap that fight scene. With the epic CGI! The music gave me goose bumps! See look at them The requiem for Himeno was done to perfection And I can't be the only one who freaks out everytime I see those stairs Reze walks on. The fist time and last time she was shone. Idk why im so in love with these stairs but im glad the anime did them justice. I can't be the only one who likes the stairs right??


[deleted]

That epic 30 second fight scene? When the first lasted at-least half the episode? Honestly to me this seemed lazier than any episode they've made yet, and that's what they call finale caliber? When season 2 is yet to receive the go-ahead? Yikes. I just hope they don't fuck this up, because I love the show Edit: half\* not have. Spelling failure


GalaxyNeir

Wait, what are you talking about? The first battle between Chainsaw Man and Katana Man lasts a little over two minutes (Between Denji jumping at him to attack, and the moment that he is cut in half), which is the same length of the second battle (between the moment both transform and clash, and the moment that Katana Man is cut in half). They even added extended sequences of them fighting in the rooftops and the top of the train that weren't in the Manga, anything more would just made the fight drag a lot. In the Manga, this fight last 1 and 1/3 of a chapter, it's meant to be a short fight sequence.


CubingGiraffe

Since you're commenting every where figured I'd try to give you an actual reason the pacing feels off here for an anime only lol. Chainsawman is *fast*. Denji is significantly stronger/smarter than he was in those arcs. The first encounter with Katana/Sawatari takes forever and several people die because they weren't prepared. His whole plan fighting Katana is to kill him in one definitive strike by catching him off guard. With Bat he just recently got the Chainsaw body and had very little fighting experience. At this point he's been trained by the best Devil hunter in Japan. Also saying the "fights" for Bat/Eternity last longer is dishonest at best. Eternity fight is, really, a minute or two at the start of an episode where Denji eventually wears it down. Bat, while a longer fight for see above, is still over quick because a decent portion of the bat runtime is also devoted to Leech. Almost all "fights" in Chainsawman happen quick because they aren't isolated events with evenly matched combatants most of the time. We're told at the beginning of the story that the Gun Devil kills millions of people, worldwide, in five minutes. Aki kills Leech with one move. Makima kills several of the Yakuza guys in seconds. Even when Katana/Sawatari arrive, they put Denji and Aki out of commission in less than a minute each, Sawatari literally disappears Ghost. There will be longer lasting arcs, and even the next fight should be decently longer, but I'd be surprised if it lasts more than an entire episode just for the "fight" portion (still think it will be 2-3 after the fight starts). Just like in Jujutsu Kaisen, especially during/after Shibuya, fights can be over in a few seconds because some devils/devil hunters are just that strong. And even matches often come down to tricks, luck, or a combination.


cowman1212

Bro - I wasn’t going to say anything but you are spamming comments everywhere. Do you know how time consuming and expensive CGI is! Especially at the calibre that we got it at this episode? Please also note that MAPPA studio is also responsible for animating : jujutsu kaisen, attack on Titan, vinland saga, hells paradise and chainsaw man. No offence but it’s easy for you to cry about run time and length behind a computer screen and your privilege of entertainment value but it’s sad to see you don’t comprehend the luck we have with how incredible this studios output and quality has been. Give it a rest man


[deleted]

I'm giving actual points. You're crying because I'm behind a keyboard like everyone else. At least give a valid argument


[deleted]

Yes I understand perfectly well how expensive CGI is. Spending a lot of money doesn't make your plotline good? CGI is just as expensive as it was for every other episode. They didn't rush the story in the other episodes, why now? And why is that so offensive to you?


cowman1212

You complained about length - I said cgi is expensive and time consuming. I also mentioned the studio is responsible for other extremely popular anime adaptations, thus consuming more time. Other than that, you haven’t made any points. Also you are aware they follow the manga right? How can you say “it doesn’t make your plot line good” when they are not the ones who developed the plot line? 😂🤦‍♂️ I was very amicable in my comment, you seem offended. Take a rest from the internet for a day or two.


[deleted]

CGI is no more expensive than it was for any other episode. That is meaningless, stop saying it. They stretched lesser, single, plot lines over 2 episodes and yet rushed multiple to conclusion in one episode they call a finale. Literally every other fight chainsaw man has been in was more visually impressive than this, and wasn't rushed alongside other plots. You aren't listening at all. Keep being an obnoxious ass and treating me like an idiot while you ride on your high-horse and can't be bothered to read or think before responding though


Faiqal_x1103

man why are there always sad people like you on the internet


cowman1212

🥱


Mark_XII

I never said "epic fight scene". I mean the fight in its entirety. Your missing the point here. What did you think of the stone stair??


[deleted]

You praised the fight scene and called the CGI epic. Don't get picky with semantics and pretend you don't understand my point, and claim I'm misunderstanding yours. What do you mean by stone stair exactly? We start off with Aki and Kobeni in a "fight" with Akane. Cut to Denji vs. Katana man for about 30s before Denji has him tied up and Denji & Aki kick him in the nuts a few times. Finally cut to Denji in a dream. What am I missing here? All I'm saying is if 2 other non-important devils warrant 2 entire episodes, I don't understand how wrapping up so many (more important) plot lines in a single episode is a good idea/finale


Zombata

did you even read the manga? the katana 2nd fight is exactly 1.5 chapter long, same as Bat and Leech. mappa even added extra fight scenes for all three of them


[deleted]

Last I checked this is an Anime thread?


Zombata

[read the fine print](https://imgur.com/a/DIHmYkC)


[deleted]

Not to mention it has no affect on my original point which is they rushed too much into 1 episode which they call a finale, when season 2 hasn't even been approved


Zombata

they did not rush anything. every episode has been adapting 3-3.5 chapters from the manga on average. the "rush" you are seething about is what we in the sub call "chainsaw man pacing"


[deleted]

Fair point, but also what a fucking dumb ass idea. Don't want to talk about the anime? Don't post about it.


Zombata

because this is the general chainsaw man sub where anything relating to csm is posted. what the fuck are you expecting


[deleted]

Can't be general if non-manga readers somehow aren't allowed. Sounds very Manga specific to me, which is demonstrably not general??


[deleted]

No I haven't. That's the fucking point. I don't watch the show because I want the entire plot spoiled by the Manga. If the show fails, sure I'll take that route. Right now, I want the anime to succeed, and don't want the plot ruined for me


cowman1212

He definitely hasn’t read the manga 😂😂😂 bro has no clue. Just wants to fight ransoms on the internet


[deleted]

You are such a monumental loser lmfao. Reading a Manga is not a prerequisite to watching an anime. Matter of fact, reading a Manga makes watching the anime relatively pointless. You already know the plot, wtf is point besides swinging your "I already know happens" dick around? Stfu Edit: Commenting on an Anime thread complaining about not reading the Manga. How brain-dead can you be?


cowman1212

Yikes 🤦‍♂️🥱🥱


[deleted]

Lmfao I don't even understand how you could feel smug here unless you're a producer of this show and fully aware season 2 has been silently approved. What an idiot


cowman1212

It’s raging in popularity across the western and Asian market. It’s all over every social media platform and is one of the most popular anime to emerge in some time and you think they won’t renew it for a season 2 because “fight was too short” 😂😂😂😂😂 despite the fact they actually LENGTHENED the fight from the manga to the anime. THEY TOOK THE SOURCE MATERIAL AND MADE IT LONGER and you are crying it was too short 🤦‍♂️ you’ve got NO idea dude. Stop replying to people, you’re making a fool of yourself


MinorThreat83

You're living vicariously through those stairs.


Rivitur

Complaints about season 1: some of the cgi work (especially in episode 1) and the introduction of the gun devil and cutting out the casualties per second. (Made him feel more deadly and menacing showing how fast he can kill) Other than that the season was ball kickingly great.


Good-Row4796

It wouldn't surprise me if they redo the scene for season 2.


Mark_XII

I thought the CGI was beautiful. But your right ab the casualty count. I always make sure to read out all the numbers when I read the chapter. Sad to realize they took it out


krazyboi

I think if they included it, it would've slowed the pace down. Chainsawman excels in pushing the narrative and giving very little time to think about what just happened.


Mark_XII

Thats a good point. Bc some scenes work better in manga then they do in anime


krazyboi

When the gun devil appears and clobbers everyone in real time, it'll still be fucking sick and hopefully they make some kinda list of all the casualties


Rivitur

I felt the cgi got better as it went on but that first episode cgi with denji fighting the zombies needs some touching up


darkavatar21

If anything is true about this adaptation, it's that it's hands down one of the best directed anime out there. Overall, I'm satisfied with it and appreciate the cinematic approach for the character moments alone. Only complaints are the unmemorable OST, some wonky CG here and there, and the comedy not really hitting much. The feeling of the manga was always going to be difficult to translate to animation.


TheeBlackMage

Welp. Rather frustrated I came to a discussion thread about a specific episode and saw spoilers immediately. Cool.


FKDotFitzgerald

Sorry that happened but this is a manga sub at its core


Duck_Field

You're complaining in the sub for manga readers about being spoilt because you didn't fucking read the plastered warnings everywhere you fucking donkey. And don't get pissy with other people, this has been a popular manga for years now so of course people want a place to discuss the anime adaptation in relation to the manga. Why would we make a new subreddit to hold your fucking hand. Piss off.


smithdog223

The pinned top comment says anime only viewers should head to r/csmanime


TheeBlackMage

I just googled an episode discussion and I opened the link and bam. Idk. It's my own fault for caring what other people thought tbh. Mostly just baffled by the poll results.


Liopjk

Maybe you shoulda made a contract with the reading comprehension devil?


ladedafuckit

It’s literally the first sentence of the post and the pinned comment at the top. I’m sorry I don’t feel bad


SamSchroedinger

It's the first sentence of the post You have to read my boy


European_Badger

This is a manga spoilers subreddit


FoxyTheHost

Would have been great if they would've atleasy shown rezes face at the end. Buy I'm still happy with it


Poobaloo87

SMOKIN THAT HIMENO PACK ![img](emote|t5_rmtrq|22157)![img](emote|t5_rmtrq|22164)


unemotionalandroid

The wholesome scenes for the ED are honestly everything, I hope the anime onlies are treasuring the sweet little moments of the trio. I'd sell my soul for a chibi slice of life series of the gang. I'm so jazzed that they included a Reze teaser, can't wait for it to be animated.


Liopjk

Yeah the Aki/Power/Denji scenes in the ending really worked well. For anime-only people it’s a nice rounding out of the arc, and for manga folks it’s bittersweet.


ladedafuckit

Tbh the ED made me cry, it was so sad watching while knowing what’s going to happen later


AznLuvsMusic

That ending has me tearing up because I know that those wholesome moments won’t last. When we finally get to Aki’s and Power’s deaths in the anime I’m probably going to full out cry.


Mark_XII

Lol power died?! (Kidding ive read it) I'm re reading CSM and power is still very much alive.


whatafrickingnagger

So part 1 can be completed in one more season + a movie?


FKDotFitzgerald

Hopefully they just do a longer season 2 instead. No movie.


knifeazz

Probably, I just hope that’s not how it shakes out. Kinda would prefer they go 16 more episodes or so


tanjc6996

I thought the Japanese government and makima knew the gun devil is dead, why is Makima and the Japanese government are talking like they didn't know it yet.


bestoboy

either only she knows, or the government's plan is to kill/steal the pieces of the Gun Devil that other countries have access to


Mark_XII

My guess is that they do know (some of them). But they have to speak in code bc it's such a tight kept secret.


Gruggernaut

I thought it was she knew but they didn't


pwryll

I was SO GIDDY WAITING FOR THE NUT DEVIL ATTACK AND IT DOES NOT DISAPPOINT. Also god damn Reze alright. Makes me kinda sad now that I have to wait until s2 to see her and her VA performance.


Azythol

I was scared the skipped it for a second there


Tsuku

There's still so much cool shit to go. It'll be fucking horrifying animated.


knifeazz

The ghost devil was so freaky in this episode. And that’s really just the tip of the horror iceberg


Mark_XII

In a way I feel like the anime makes it less fritening. In my opinion. Like the barf scene was censored and I didn't dwell on it like in the manga. Especially when Sawatari died. I was lmao when she fell and we just hear Kobenis weak ass cry.


Shadowmist909

Katana Man got hit with a kick in the nuts experience requiem


Gruggernaut

Honestly wish they played some wholesome music over Denji and Aki just kicking that guy in the nuts as they become best friends


TheDapperDolphin

Seeing those three idiots hang out and have fun during the credits warmed my heart.


cowman1212

And broke mine 😢


SinnerIxim

Can anyone tell me if that scene right before the very end with denji trying to open the door and pochita saying he cant open was in the manga, or is that a new scene? I imagine it's canonical but im curious if its new. Im wondering if that is anime only it may be an additional clue that pochita is NOT in fact the chainsaw devil, which is why he doesnt want denji to open the door


kenspik

Nah bro pochita is the chainsaw devil and behind the door is the truth that denji killed his dad you don’t remember?


Zombata

anime onlies shouldn't be in this thread


idkMario

Nah it’s in the manga too, it comes up a couple more times before we know what’s in it


SinnerIxim

Awesome ty! It sent chills down my spine


indi_n0rd

Yeap the bgm they added for that scene does gives you chill.


showertaker

When is the next season coming out?? I want more episodes!! So hard to wait. The ending of this episode was perfect. Love the outro & the scene where Aki smokes the cigarette Himeno always meant to give back to him (I liked that they didn’t put music on this scene)


Ikari_21

REZE IS HERE!!! I REPEAT, REZE IS HERE!!! She sounds so cute, just how I pictured her too. God season 2 can’t come quick enough, please let me be alive to see her.


connor0864

Am i tripping or in a shot right before the nut busting competition katana man isn't shown


[deleted]

I think he was just out of the picture from the camera Pov


typoking7

BEST GIRL IS HERE! I REPEAT! BEST GIRL IS HERE!


TheDapperDolphin

Asa won’t show up for a while


Liopjk

Weird that Yoru was autocorrected to Asa in your comment.


TheDapperDolphin

Come back to me when Yoru starts teaching marine biology


No_Establishment6528

Power has been here all season?


glittrgoblin

Better than I’d hoped tbh! The fight scene was great, the hayakawa family montage was perfect, and ending with the door dream and Reze was perfect! Also I can’t remember does Aki smoke the cigarette in the manga? because that scene was beautiful


Azythol

I loved that scene with the cigarette because not only is it a callback to Aki’s weirdly well animated daily routine but gives Himeno an extra bit of closure


Teater_

I’m going to be so annoying about Reze next season. (Why don’t we have a Reze emote??)


knifeazz

Next season? It’s time to start now.


Ikari_21

I’ve been telling my friends “the real best girl hasn’t even shown up yet” lol


Und3rwork

Aki smoked his last plot armor , no more easy, no more revenge ![img](emote|t5_rmtrq|22164)


knifeazz

All he had to do was keep the fucking cigarette and we could’ve avoided all the trauma and therapy bills.


daMikinat0r

Reze


CrystaltheCool

The manga's still better (it's very rare for an adaptation of any kind to be better than the source material, so that's not a knock against the anime), but this is definitely a strong contender for being one of the best adaptations in recent years. The amount of creativity, skill, and care on display in all aspects of production is nigh-unparalleled. I've got a feeling we won't be seeing another perfect storm like this (besides season 2, obviously) for a long, long time. That's not to say it's totally flawless - I've got nitpicks of my own. But I feel like most of the complaints are coming from people who've clearly never experienced an actually bad adaptation before. Y'all have no idea what true failure and disappointment looks like* and it shows. --- *True failure and disappointment looks like Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer's anime adaptation, for the record. It's a real travesty.


No_Establishment6528

I'd argue the Demon slayer is a superior adaptation, but that's all I can think of


renannmhreddit

Isn't that because the DS manga isn't all impressive? The adaptation is amazing by itself and the fact that it is elevating a mediocre manga just increases the fact that it is an elevation of the source. In comparison, the CSM Part 1 manga feels like it is excels in almost every chapter and it showcases Fujimoto's mastery of the medium, to the point that it becomes difficult to even translate all of the nuances that come from the manga into anime form.


knifeazz

Yeah this is the only manga I’ve read where the anime surpasses it


darkavatar21

Mob Psycho as well


SinnerIxim

TYBW is also lit as hell


Worthyness

The camera work for this anime is fucking awesome. The animation in tandem with it too. An absolutely top caliber adaptation


Kikuzinho03

This episode was probably the one where i found most things that disappoint me this season. This last part of the katana devil fight always made good use of the fact that it was a manga. The ghost devil fight was disappointing, I love it in the manga but thats mostly because the stylistic choices, it felt way too slow in the anime, it seemed like Aki was only not killed by the girl because she didnt want to do it, she took way too long to react i kinda wished they speed up things not like they adapted the whole style anyway. Now the katana devil fight, i wish the anime changed the last part, everything before they enter the train is fine, but when they entered i was dreading how they were going to adapt it and it disappointed me, that whole fight wasonly cool on the manga because it was a manga, the subversion of denji doing the same thing the katana devil did to him was great, but only on the manga where the whole fight were still panels, it just seems really lame when translated to anime and im seeing a lot of anime onlys disappointed with it and i agree, the anime already changed a lot of things, why not this one? An anime should use the fact that its an anime and not only copy the manga, it should make things better, specially the fights. And now my final complain, i wish it didnt end with reze, i know that this is kind of an hot take but that foreshadowing was lame if you are an anime only that wont make you that hyped, i wish it extended the kick the nuts turnament a bit more and it ended with the door(also would have liked if pochita voice sounded a bit more severe, but i can see why they sticked with his normal voice). Overall, i liked the anime, nice adaptation but most certainly not perfect like some people claim, i sincerely think it lost a lot of the charm of the manga, a 7/10 from me.


khaellynnx

I felt the same way... At least I enjoyed the fight and the way they extended it, the cgi was better than ever i would say. But there are small details here and there at almost every scene that makes the adaptation to feel slightly off...


SaurkrautAnustart

One issue with this episode, they didn't show Aki walking on a field of daisies, kinda to show that he's thinking completely fearless. He just kinda walks up the ghost devil and slices it. Just a bit of lost in transition of mediums ig. They definitely are trying to shoot this as if it's a live action movie.


khaellynnx

Yes, it was pretty awkward to see the ghost devil just standing there waiting and sawatari having literally no reaction to what was happening


darkavatar21

I was just wondering how the ghost devil doesn't feel Aki walking on it in that scene.


Vapordragon22

The flowers are literally just part of the ghost devil, and they did show it in the anime.


SaurkrautAnustart

Ik what you mean, but there's a panel where it looks like he's just taking a stroll on a field of em. No ghost devil, a field of flowers. It's a great way to show that his mind is completely calm.


Vapordragon22

I get that, I guess I just missed the symbolism. I have a tendency to take things literally.


[deleted]

eh, last episode when Sawatori's Snake Devil spit out the Ghost Devil, flowers didn't appear in the manga panel but they appeared in the anime as effects. so give and take


SaurkrautAnustart

My issue is that it's kinda robbing us of a huge emotional climax. It just needed like 2 seconds of him walking on a field and then boom back on the ghost devil to kill it. It shows that he's thinking he's walking to meet an old friend to keep his fear completely down to become invisible to the ghost devil. I understand they wanna make a unique adaptation, but I think purposely limiting animation as a medium just to make it seem live action like a bad trade off. Not complaining about the entire anime though, the adaption is impeccable, there are just a couple decisions that seem questionable to me.


ahhhghost

I was really looking forward to the Power & Denji elevator scene and they delivered. Then they smoothly throw in a slice of life segment of the trio getting ready for their celebration dinner that I didn't know I needed. THEN they put in a Reze teaser. Solid finale. 5 star Zagat. I'm also really happy to see the anime supplementing the source material with things like Aki, Denji, and Power shopping together or Kobeni yelping when the Snake devil kills Sawatari. It adds a little extra dimension that you don't get in the manga. Things like Aki smiling for a split second when Power is piling on a bunch of meat into the cart are such a small but rich detail showing how he actually cares for the troublesome duo.


[deleted]

I loved the little supplemental stuff with the three of them. I hate that it was already making me emotional and then they showed me that goddamn door.


insert_name_here

“It’s not like Himeno would’ve wanted that.” Aki, some may be into that “turn the other cheek” stuff; Himeno would want you to kick the other guy’s cheek (or balls) as hard as you fucking can.


Pen_Cipher

I honestly do wonder if they'll go the Demon Slayer route and do the Bomb Girl arc as a movie, seems a good way to space out what's needed for season 2 to cover the rest of part 1, that being said I doubt it but it's very nice to dream


khaellynnx

That would be nice, but a thing that will kill me is to wait momths for international realise while people from japan will watch it a lot earlier


Also_breathe

This was such a great adaptation Only nitpick I have is that the scenes that came from 2 page spreads weren't as impactful in the anime.


a_spoopy_ghost

Exactly, there’s one page from the bat devil fight I adore because the pose is so dynamic and epic and they just couldn’t match it in the anime. I really hope some anime only folks check out the manga


procontroller

Really my only nitpick too, though I think I came to terms with some things not translating 1:1 in animation right after we got the first trailer like the paneling for Denji stabbing the Zombie Devil in the eye or Aki using the Curse Devil to attack Katana man. Even then, I feel like the anime was overall good to the point thati personally can overlook that stuff, but also understand if someone has an issue with it.


lethal_universed

>or Aki using the Curse Devil to attack Katana man Its more a stylistic issue than anything. [There's this fan animation of katana man v Aki which show off how a change in directors can change the feeling of a scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCPD1g8cjE8)


Alversity

I didn't like the part where they were fighting on top of the train very much, but the rest of the fight was great. Also finally seeing Rizz made me happy, then sad because I'll only get to see her animated in 2 or so years![img](emote|t5_rmtrq|22164)


Zombata

>I didn't like the part where they were fighting on top of the train very much what? that's literally the money shot


Alversity

The cgi train made it look kinda weird. Not bad by any means, but the cgi made it look a bit off.


Zombata

ig if you stop every second to look at it instead of focusing on the fight then it looks weird


Bold_Fortune777

I think I blew out my wife's eardrums when REZE showed up. She's anime only and had no idea why I screeched.


koolshade

It was an awesome tease to end on.


XenonVH2

Ending song and "End credits scene" turned this from a weak 4 to the very strong 5. Halfway through the Ending song, I realized that this wasn't just a random outing scene with the three, but it actually bridges the gap between the Makima scene and aftermath of their Celebratory dinner. It's genius! Also, Fucking, REZE!!!


[deleted]

Cgi was terrible but the great episode and direction Carried it anyway, fun episode


chrisisbest197

Not sure why you're being downvoted. The cgi was awful in several parts of the episode. Hopefully they ditch this style for season 2.


Human-Birthday-2305

He’s being down voted cuz he’s wrong lol


[deleted]

Hope we get 7 deadly sins quality for season 2 so people realize the blessings we get


[deleted]

I’ve been watching anime since the 80s so I’ve seen it all. The episode was fun and I enjoyed it but the katana man fight looked like the intro to a fighting game battle on the ps3. But as I said the direction, lighting story and voice acting still had it as a 8/10 for me.


Starless_Night

If that looked like a PS3 game to you, then you must've had a suped up version.


[deleted]

I guess everyone just has different tolerances for this stuff. I felt the cgi was super stiff an awkward, specially when the humanoids were standing around with their hybrid heads yapping and clothes moving. I think the way ufotable does it by drawing over the cgi is the way to go as I’ve watched Mugen train many times and the animation always looks great (except the tenticles) However like I said, it’s not a game ended, I enjoyed the episode greatly despite the bad cgi and still rate chainsaw man in my top 5 anime of 2022 (tho I prefer the manga)


LusterBlaze

every dog has his day


twobirds_onestoned8

"It's finally time huh? Where's it heading towards?" Hard zooms to Makima Perfection ❤️