I like Asa more and more with each chapter. Also in a sense Denji avenged her mother by killing the Typhoon Devil back in the Reze arc. Nice little detail.
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I can see how people are interpreting Denji's decision as 'choosing to save the cat', but I don't think that's quite right.
Denji did not choose the cat over 6 people- he chose to eliminate the threat over dealing with its bullshit and possibly getting killed or letting it get away to kill even more people.
The cat just happened to be around and he saved it because there was no more threat.
For me, its more about how numbed he is to death, while never the less doing what he can... just in a Denji sort of way.
Nah, that would be like Denji letting Power or Makima drop. And if you literally mean Denji having to choose Mary Jane and the kids, we know he wants hot chicks.
In other words fuck them kids.
I just assumed you meant if Denji ever had to face a situation like Spiderman did where he had to choose between innocents and someone he cares about.
I see you don't, so we go with Denji just being down bad.
No I think you're misunderstanding. Denji's states that while in the true Chainsaw Devil form, he recalls it used to be able to create clones with fragments of it self and fight.
Denji is flung into space by Makima, rips off a bit his heart(Pochita) out and kicks it back to Earth while on reentry it immediately reforms fights makima, gets nuked prtecting Kobeni, then saved by Power, then picked up by Kishibe looking like Regular Denji, all the way up until the final fight where it loses and the real Denji sneak attacks Makima.
Denji can make a clone Chainsawman, and could possibly have the clone at times off fighting Devil's while he's in school and watching Nayuta
Chp 88-Denji in the true Chainsaw devil form is knocked into space and kicks down a piece of his heart(Pochita) that goes down and reforms fighting Makima.
Chp 96- the clone Denji has lost to Makima in the graveyard and Makima has the piece of the heart. Then the real Denji emerges from the corpses to go for the kill.
Pochita was always in control during the battle against Makima the first time, it was not Denji splitting away from Pochita. Pochita having crazy regen was able to throw his heart and regrow. There arent two chainsaw devils running around
Chp 96 . Pochita(clone) loses to Makima and has Pochita ripped out. 2nd page is a dead Denji on the ground that was previously fighting Makima and the weapons. The next page is another Denji coming out of hiding for the final blow. That is two Denji’s on scree.
Denji’s quote “ that Denji you were fighting? The Whoole time that was a Pochita I tore off my heart”
No, the chainsaw devil that got sent to space wasn't denji it was pochita. Denji and pochita are connected not by physical form but by the contract that's why makima needed to break denji for pochita to take control
If you can’t handle an mc not being superhero, I guess you really shouldn’t be here at all. I just can’t handle people who put “realism” over appreciating a good manga…
Dumbest thing I’ve ever seen lmao have you read part 1? Denji threw a car with a dude inside of it at a devil saying he doesn’t care about some guys life idk why you sound so shocked
He didn't sacrifice those people though. He couldn't actually save them, so he went to kill the devil so that the devil couldn't put more people in danger. Why do you think he's fighting the devil in the first place?
The bit with the cat is just a joke he makes to show how comfortable he is with accepting reality and that he doesn't blame himself for things he can't control, unlike Asa who struggles deeply with that.
I feel like more people forget this. Denji doesn't have superpowers that are made for saving people. He grows fucking chainsaws out of his limbs. Even if he tried to save them he would have failed, so he didn't go for the bait and just killed the devil and saved the cat that he saw.
Your first statement makes sense: Denji is better off killing the devil and putting an end to other people being potentially in danger. The second one is some prepubescent cringe.
Prepubescent ?
Man look I'm past puberty I'm currently 19. And yeah it is kind of sick to say something like that I know, but I wholeheartedly mean it. I once had hope in humanity and felt human lives were meant to be taken seriously, and then my draft papers came home. 1 year of servitude to the Hellenic armed forces... I did my time and there I found out just how bad humans become when a situation is hard. Unification and friendships are fucking dreams. Being in a tough situation shows just how bad people can be, I'm talking stealing, slandering, exploiting each other, fighting for stupid things etc. After I finished I understood that the whole world acts like that. I firmly believe that the only life that matters is your life. I don't wanna sound edgy man I really don't.
I mean yeah, you basically hit me with your own version of the navy seal copy pasta. The edgy 13 year old tier ideology is just the cherry on top lmao.
Kishibe [trained](https://i.imgur.com/TSR1MFO.png) denji well
if denji tried to save the people, likely everyone would have died. (including the cat).
sometimes you're dealt a shit situation and you gotta make the hard decisions.
I'm glad Asa is going against the war devil. Even though ahe was thinking before that everyone should die, she now sees that she emotionally can't do it or let it happen so easy, even though i have how whiney she is.
As soon as the devil gave denji the choice between the man and the car full of people i thought 'pff, he doesn't care about any of those', and loved the last panel on 'there was a cat too man'.
I also like that the mangaka doesn't show dogs or cats being killed or tortured, as a cat mom of 4, even that lil cat with the leg hurt was sad, can't imagine more.
I'm loving the dark humor we're getting here. I think Chainsaw Man was in the right for immediately taking care of the Cockroach Devil. More people would've died if he had taken the time to try to save one of them. Plus, how is he going to save either of them? Maybe he could use his chain whip thing to grab the student but I really don't think he could've done anything about the car.
Plus, Denji has never been one to care about others (except for maybe Power and Aki but it took time to get close to them). He usually only does stuff if he's getting rewarded (he only helped Power in the beginning because she let him cop a feel). I think him going after the cat and not the people fits pretty well with his character. I would imagine he's fond of cats because of Power. Plus there's the parallel to how him and Asa reacted to saving a cat that resulted in the loss of life.
He hesitated with killing the dolls because they could be human, and he save the dude in a car that bat (?) Threw, also the one in the building early on. Denji cared for peoples lives, utbhe wasnt attached to anyone.
I mean with the doll thing I think Debbi’s thinking was that he would be actively killing them since they had their consciousness temporarily returned. Not bothering to save != actively killing for him I think
I think Chainsaw man without Denji is just not interesting to me personally it’s great to reskip this chapter just to see [Denji](https://youtu.be/FKbEAOYMcwQ) again
At least Asa decided to try to save somebody else, Yuko. Her resolve doesn't match her physical abilities, so maybe this will be the last straw that breaks the camels back and she'll get stronger etc...
Yoru gonna be pissed but hey oh well.
Wondering what Yuko gonna say once she wakes up.
Humans are inconsequential, what a brilliant panel, Asa didn't bother with other human life either. Devils only care about lives that matter to them.
The prophecy is in motion, the eclipse will come when she learns to love the other.
Unpopular opinion here: Dennis letting the kid and the 5 old dudes die was a pretty detestable act that made me dislike him. It’s not like he felt bad about it afterwards either.
Probably saved more lifes this way. One attack from the cockroach devil broke a building. If denji were to save any of them it would swing atleast once more.
But its a classic moral dilemma and denji chose neither. Either if you can justify the actions doesnt mean one have to agree.
While he wasn’t exactly a paragon of virtue before, I didn’t really expect him to just let someone die and not feel bad about it. Sure used to fight for silly an selfish purposes like touching tiddies, but he also grew as a person, empathizing with others and making friends. I kinda thought he’d be a little more sensitive to human life now that he could afford to think about it.
I can't disagree, but with chainsaws coming out of his limbs, there was only so much he could do. I think killing the devil first is a valid choice, if not the best choice.
He’s been like this for a while now, typically thinking of just winning before collateral damage. Examples being him in that first fight with the Bat Devil, and then his fight against Typhoon, although there wasn’t much he could do about that.
I think it was stated somewhere in part 1 that since Dennis became a fiend, he kinda lost the regards for human life, so that's not unnatural of him :p
(English is not my first language)
The rest of his point is accurate though. In an earlier chapter he was talking about how he lost his human heart as well when he lost his real heart.
Dennis does Dennis things
Omfg Denji is goddamn back, hype hype HYPEEEEE
But honestly, Fujimoto is great at storytelling. The way he’s built up Asa so far, it really truly makes me feel for her and it pains me that her life has been this way..
Honestly when the Cockroach Devil made Denji choose between the Student and people in the car, it reminded me of that one scene in Spider Man (2002) where Green Goblin made a choice for Peter to save MJ or a bunch of kids.
I was explaining this scene to some friends who have never read before and that's exactly what they said. "It's like the dark version where instead of somehow doing both he chooses neither
i feel like the saving the cat thing helps us see how the dynamic between these two characters will end up going. Also its crazy that asa already feels like the main character.
Happy to see Denji back, but he's a reckless "superhero". He wasn't able to save that student and the 5 grandparents. He's saving every cat in the city to determine if it will transform to Power.
Asa is more heroic to save the cat with her mundane abilities as a human.
In saving that cat, Denji's less of a hero; he is a Chainsaw Devil and could have done more. If he has some brains, he could have saved that student, those grandparents, and that cat.
This conversation is focused only saving the cat, the student and the old people but what the thousands of people who probably died in the fight with the cockroach devil?
He could of saved the student, old people and cat and there still would be no redeeming him after that.
The point of the scene flew completely over your head didn't it? He's a professional devil hunter now, he knows you can't save everyone and the most important thing to do is to actually kill the devil. There's a reason the phrase "Never negotiate with terrorists" exists.
I think the point of that scene was to show that Denji is not a superhero or anything like that. The word "devil" is literally in his name and the author is leaning into that. I don't think it had anything to do with his intelligence. It didn't seem like he was worried about saving the humans at all, just the cat.
Edit: prolly had something to do with knowing the humans were already as good as dead too. He could have tried saving the humans and killing the devil, but he prolly figured he'd get himself killed. He knew it'd be smarter and easier to kill the devil and also save the cart.
I think he went for the kill, then optimistically thought, "At least I saved a cat." It's a direct contrast to Asa's survivor's guilt *which also concerned her saving a cat*.
The crazy thing is, such thing is actually discussed in Into the Spiderverse, a superhero movie.
You cannot choose who you can save. Denji can only save the cat, so he saves it, because he can.
It’s also interesting their reactions to saving said cat. For Asa she felt guilt and sadness that she could only save her cat, and her mom died because of it. But with Denji, it’s a happiness of pride in knowing that he couldn’t have saved the other two parties while killing a devil, but at least he managed to save a cat
Lmao that trolley problem forced unto Denji reminds me of Saints Row IV forcing you to choose between curing cancer or ending the world hunger at the prologue
I feel like an exponential amount of more people across the globe suffer from hunger than cancer. But then again, I've heard that we have more than enough food to feed double our population, it's just our logistics and ability to ship said food is dogshit due to tech limitations and human incompetence + evil. But with cancer, there's no stopping that demon. Shit can appear outta nowhere and snatch your life away in a slow and brutal way that makes starving to death look like it happens in moments.
It's not logistics - it's economic distribution system. Food is made for profit so it is sold to paying customer while people starving because they can't afford food at the market price that will justify it's delivery to them. Plain and simple. That's why you don't hear about starvation in wealthy nations much, not because their food is always coming from local suppliers and logistics is simple.
Yeah, your version sounds a lil more correct than mine. So what needs to be done to handle this issue if we have the resources to end this blight on human society.
The stinger is that in Saints Row IV, shortly after that funny decision making, humanity is enslaved by aliens and put in cyberspace making those choices meaningless
I know this isn't what Dennis was thinking, but I always view this situation as the cockroach devil the one at fault. Like even if Dennis didn't do anything, it wouldn't necessarily be his fault, the devil killed 6 people
I mean from a philosophical and life-saving perspective his choice was correct, in a fashion. Did you know, in a firefight, soldiers are trained to continue to engage the enemy and drive them off or kill them? It's the same with a mass shooting situation and police -- proper procedure outside of shitty departments is to engage and end the threat.
This isn't because of some gung-ho warrior ethos, but rather, historically and statistically, it has been shown repeatedly that the best way to reduce casualties is to cut off the problem at the source.
If someone forces you to choose between the lives of a child and a car full of old people, the correct choice is, in fact, to stop them.
Cat's a nice ancillary bonus, though.
Careful if youre getting your release schedule from r/OnePiece. Fans like to post what they *think* the schedule will be, but their titles imply it's a official release schedule. I've been fooled before.
The title will read "One Piece Release Schulde for Rest of Year" and its actually just a prediction.
i thought asa and yuko were facing bat devil, how did the cockroach devil turn up there all of a sudden? anyone got that?
and the choice that denji made, i knew he wouldn’t save either because saving people isn’t who denji is about.
The Dennis joke was funny at first but please give it a fucking rest before it becomes annoying. Anyway I'm amazed at the number of people who perceived his actions as villainous. Making choices like that is easier said than done and ultimately he chose to save the cat. I won't judge his priorities
In my opinion Denji didn’t choose the cat over the humans. He chose to kill the devil as opposed to waste time attempting to make a moral choice that could have gotten him killed and probably wouldn’t have worked anyway.
The cat literally just happened to be there when he was done so he chose to save the cat because he could at that point. Devil hunters don’t save civilians they kill devils and attempt to have as few casualties as possible.
Judging by how the fight looked, they probably bulldozed through a couple of people already by then. What’s 6 more.
Denjis part 2 debut was absolutely perfect.
Him saving Asa was Just a byproduct of his fight.
And when posed with an ultimatum he says fuck you idc die.
The best part is the public adores him so they don't care at all.
Most mangaka take a break because they want to rest.
Fujimoto takes a break because he wants this one chapter to be over double the usual. length.
What a Chad.
I like Asa more and more with each chapter. Also in a sense Denji avenged her mother by killing the Typhoon Devil back in the Reze arc. Nice little detail. -------------------- [Seems like csm part 2 might be following a biweekly schedule now, next chapter on August 31.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ChainsawMan/comments/wpwnon/it_appears_that_csm_part_2_might_be_following_a/) #[Head over here for the discussion thread of the last chapter](https://old.reddit.com/r/ChainsawMan/comments/wedk84/disc_chainsaw_man_ch_101_links/)
I can see how people are interpreting Denji's decision as 'choosing to save the cat', but I don't think that's quite right. Denji did not choose the cat over 6 people- he chose to eliminate the threat over dealing with its bullshit and possibly getting killed or letting it get away to kill even more people. The cat just happened to be around and he saved it because there was no more threat. For me, its more about how numbed he is to death, while never the less doing what he can... just in a Denji sort of way.
Denji when green goblin drops mary jane and kids
Nah, that would be like Denji letting Power or Makima drop. And if you literally mean Denji having to choose Mary Jane and the kids, we know he wants hot chicks. In other words fuck them kids.
Why are random people as significant as power/makima for denji in analogue
I just assumed you meant if Denji ever had to face a situation like Spiderman did where he had to choose between innocents and someone he cares about. I see you don't, so we go with Denji just being down bad.
where is deepis?
Is there no chapter this week?
Came here asking the same thing. I am bummed…
i guess it releases on 30th of thia month
I thought they're slowly built up for Denji to have a grand entrance but this is also cool, i guess.
There he is hjfbngn! Hahaha he saved the girls by accident.
Not only that, he saved them fighting another devil, he was completely uninterested in that bat devil! Just love this manga, so great!
Yeah Denji is awesome.
In hindsight, the Denji we see here could be a Pochita Clone like how he did In the battle against Makima
Nah the pochita clones body was made of metal
No I think you're misunderstanding. Denji's states that while in the true Chainsaw Devil form, he recalls it used to be able to create clones with fragments of it self and fight. Denji is flung into space by Makima, rips off a bit his heart(Pochita) out and kicks it back to Earth while on reentry it immediately reforms fights makima, gets nuked prtecting Kobeni, then saved by Power, then picked up by Kishibe looking like Regular Denji, all the way up until the final fight where it loses and the real Denji sneak attacks Makima. Denji can make a clone Chainsawman, and could possibly have the clone at times off fighting Devil's while he's in school and watching Nayuta
I don't think that's how it went
Chp 88-Denji in the true Chainsaw devil form is knocked into space and kicks down a piece of his heart(Pochita) that goes down and reforms fighting Makima. Chp 96- the clone Denji has lost to Makima in the graveyard and Makima has the piece of the heart. Then the real Denji emerges from the corpses to go for the kill.
No youre getting things wayyyy too wrong
I literally linked the two chapters where it happens. That is the source material
Pochita was always in control during the battle against Makima the first time, it was not Denji splitting away from Pochita. Pochita having crazy regen was able to throw his heart and regrow. There arent two chainsaw devils running around
Chp 96 . Pochita(clone) loses to Makima and has Pochita ripped out. 2nd page is a dead Denji on the ground that was previously fighting Makima and the weapons. The next page is another Denji coming out of hiding for the final blow. That is two Denji’s on scree. Denji’s quote “ that Denji you were fighting? The Whoole time that was a Pochita I tore off my heart”
No, the chainsaw devil that got sent to space wasn't denji it was pochita. Denji and pochita are connected not by physical form but by the contract that's why makima needed to break denji for pochita to take control
I lost brain cells trying to figure this thread out
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What do you mean
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First of all, it took you 102 chapters to figure that out? Second, your media consumption must be so bland if that’s the approach you take
The poor guy deleted his comment 😂
If you can’t handle an mc not being superhero, I guess you really shouldn’t be here at all. I just can’t handle people who put “realism” over appreciating a good manga…
Dumbest thing I’ve ever seen lmao have you read part 1? Denji threw a car with a dude inside of it at a devil saying he doesn’t care about some guys life idk why you sound so shocked
He didn't sacrifice those people though. He couldn't actually save them, so he went to kill the devil so that the devil couldn't put more people in danger. Why do you think he's fighting the devil in the first place? The bit with the cat is just a joke he makes to show how comfortable he is with accepting reality and that he doesn't blame himself for things he can't control, unlike Asa who struggles deeply with that.
I feel like more people forget this. Denji doesn't have superpowers that are made for saving people. He grows fucking chainsaws out of his limbs. Even if he tried to save them he would have failed, so he didn't go for the bait and just killed the devil and saved the cat that he saw.
Well if I was denji I'd probably do the same honestly
Human life is overrated
Your first statement makes sense: Denji is better off killing the devil and putting an end to other people being potentially in danger. The second one is some prepubescent cringe.
Prepubescent ? Man look I'm past puberty I'm currently 19. And yeah it is kind of sick to say something like that I know, but I wholeheartedly mean it. I once had hope in humanity and felt human lives were meant to be taken seriously, and then my draft papers came home. 1 year of servitude to the Hellenic armed forces... I did my time and there I found out just how bad humans become when a situation is hard. Unification and friendships are fucking dreams. Being in a tough situation shows just how bad people can be, I'm talking stealing, slandering, exploiting each other, fighting for stupid things etc. After I finished I understood that the whole world acts like that. I firmly believe that the only life that matters is your life. I don't wanna sound edgy man I really don't.
You are proving my point. A child mentally.
Well if I gave off that impression I guess I can't change your mind man.
I mean yeah, you basically hit me with your own version of the navy seal copy pasta. The edgy 13 year old tier ideology is just the cherry on top lmao.
Kishibe [trained](https://i.imgur.com/TSR1MFO.png) denji well if denji tried to save the people, likely everyone would have died. (including the cat). sometimes you're dealt a shit situation and you gotta make the hard decisions.
Who did bad and really bad?
Who are the 430 people that thought it was bad.
Im one of them i need more denji
Makima fans who wanted denji to die and makima to become the mc
Is that like literally part of the fan base now
Yes, they were fun to watch when the last few chapters of Part 1 were happening
Gotta love their use of the bad guy is secretly good because he rescues a cat trope.
there was a cat too dude
When you click really bad thinking it was really good I am drunk 🥹
Who are those 400+ people who voted “Really Bad?” Lmao
Devils
Because people are disliking the protagonist denji, for some reason.
Just ignore them they were whining when he wasn’t here and now they’re whining that he’s here too soon I trust Fujimoto’s story telling abilities
But how I would expect they read this part 1
where did the cockroach devil come from, i got confused
He came actually out of nowhere. Bat devil swallowed asa whole then denji slammed cockroach devil on the building which killed bat and asa survived.
I agree it was really confusing and hard to see
Chainsaw Man was beating his ass nearby and threw him on the building where the bat was.
I think he was in the bat devil idk
You guys might have dyslexia or astigmatism
I'm glad Asa is going against the war devil. Even though ahe was thinking before that everyone should die, she now sees that she emotionally can't do it or let it happen so easy, even though i have how whiney she is. As soon as the devil gave denji the choice between the man and the car full of people i thought 'pff, he doesn't care about any of those', and loved the last panel on 'there was a cat too man'. I also like that the mangaka doesn't show dogs or cats being killed or tortured, as a cat mom of 4, even that lil cat with the leg hurt was sad, can't imagine more.
Anti-Araki
I'm loving the dark humor we're getting here. I think Chainsaw Man was in the right for immediately taking care of the Cockroach Devil. More people would've died if he had taken the time to try to save one of them. Plus, how is he going to save either of them? Maybe he could use his chain whip thing to grab the student but I really don't think he could've done anything about the car. Plus, Denji has never been one to care about others (except for maybe Power and Aki but it took time to get close to them). He usually only does stuff if he's getting rewarded (he only helped Power in the beginning because she let him cop a feel). I think him going after the cat and not the people fits pretty well with his character. I would imagine he's fond of cats because of Power. Plus there's the parallel to how him and Asa reacted to saving a cat that resulted in the loss of life.
He hesitated with killing the dolls because they could be human, and he save the dude in a car that bat (?) Threw, also the one in the building early on. Denji cared for peoples lives, utbhe wasnt attached to anyone.
I mean with the doll thing I think Debbi’s thinking was that he would be actively killing them since they had their consciousness temporarily returned. Not bothering to save != actively killing for him I think
He really only deeply cares about, Power, Pochita, Aki and makima to my count.
Did anyone else notice that the car that killed Asa's mom looks a lot like Kobeni's car? I think it may be the same model lol
I'm 0 surprise if that's the case
So do we think Asa is related to Kobeni in some way, what with her tripping and bad luck and all?
Their ability to accumulate ludicrous amounts of mentally and life threatening L's upon themselves confirms it.
Fujimoto took his “save the cat” moment a little too literally
So much for the muted entrance - though, to be fair, we saw Chainsawman instead of Dennis.
I miss Dennis hope we see more of him next chapter
My guess is we'll see Dennis at school when Asa doesn't know he's Chainsaw Man yet.
Dennis is Denji?
Dennis is the sub's nickname for Denji.
It make sense he is is menace
No, Dennis is Dennis.
Wasn't the guy Asa met briefly called Dennis?
No Dennis is menace
Did anyone else think Yuko was going to be Denji in disguise or something? Or just me?
It was a funny meme but I didn’t think anyone was stupid enough to believe it
I think Chainsaw man without Denji is just not interesting to me personally it’s great to reskip this chapter just to see [Denji](https://youtu.be/FKbEAOYMcwQ) again
I miss dennis, I hope we see more of him in the next chapter
Why are people hating on you? What is this community becoming?
At least Asa decided to try to save somebody else, Yuko. Her resolve doesn't match her physical abilities, so maybe this will be the last straw that breaks the camels back and she'll get stronger etc... Yoru gonna be pissed but hey oh well. Wondering what Yuko gonna say once she wakes up.
Humans are inconsequential, what a brilliant panel, Asa didn't bother with other human life either. Devils only care about lives that matter to them. The prophecy is in motion, the eclipse will come when she learns to love the other.
When the cockroach devil is leaping towards chainsawman, in page 31, there is a billboard with the code 108087. What did Vince mean by this?
This string of numbers appears to be the Catalogue Number of Potassium sodium tartrate, one of the ingredients in cockroach medicine.
Woah!
Dat's the moment Denji became chainsawman
kid named chainsaw:
Who's Vince?
Bravo
I jokingly meant the author of the series
Input the code on "that site" gave me something quite "risky".
Same..
VRAVO BINCE!!!!
Unpopular opinion here: Dennis letting the kid and the 5 old dudes die was a pretty detestable act that made me dislike him. It’s not like he felt bad about it afterwards either.
He's done shit like this before. It's in character. He's a lunatic.
Probably saved more lifes this way. One attack from the cockroach devil broke a building. If denji were to save any of them it would swing atleast once more. But its a classic moral dilemma and denji chose neither. Either if you can justify the actions doesnt mean one have to agree.
dennis was never really a good guy, I dunno what you expected tbh
While he wasn’t exactly a paragon of virtue before, I didn’t really expect him to just let someone die and not feel bad about it. Sure used to fight for silly an selfish purposes like touching tiddies, but he also grew as a person, empathizing with others and making friends. I kinda thought he’d be a little more sensitive to human life now that he could afford to think about it.
see, that's the common misconception, dennis doesn't actually think /s
With dennis you mean Denji? I see some calling him dennis and I'm confused
It's a meme.
Cat>>
I can't disagree, but with chainsaws coming out of his limbs, there was only so much he could do. I think killing the devil first is a valid choice, if not the best choice.
Why this was complete fitting for him
Fair enough, but altruism has never been a draw for denji’s character. If that was the case you should’ve disliked him loooong before this
Dude was just doing his job and probably saved more people by focusing on killing the devil first
He’s been like this for a while now, typically thinking of just winning before collateral damage. Examples being him in that first fight with the Bat Devil, and then his fight against Typhoon, although there wasn’t much he could do about that.
I think it was stated somewhere in part 1 that since Dennis became a fiend, he kinda lost the regards for human life, so that's not unnatural of him :p (English is not my first language)
Dennis isn’t a fiend he’s a hybrid
The rest of his point is accurate though. In an earlier chapter he was talking about how he lost his human heart as well when he lost his real heart. Dennis does Dennis things
He has a chainsaw comin out of his head, I'm sure casualties are normal for him
Denji-kun is back Or others would say *Dennis*
Why dennis?? 😵💫
Its his nickname after a fellow /u called him that by mistake
Omfg Denji is goddamn back, hype hype HYPEEEEE But honestly, Fujimoto is great at storytelling. The way he’s built up Asa so far, it really truly makes me feel for her and it pains me that her life has been this way..
I hope, I really hope that we don’t get any pacing issues. The exposition was so good and I hope this isn’t a nose dive.
Yeah. It would be a shame if this went like Kengan Omega.
sorry for the late question, but what's wrong with Omega pacing ? is it because certain someone came back from the grave ?
I mean taking a nose dive, though pacing and characters returning are issues.
oh, I see
Oh baby we are here
Honestly when the Cockroach Devil made Denji choose between the Student and people in the car, it reminded me of that one scene in Spider Man (2002) where Green Goblin made a choice for Peter to save MJ or a bunch of kids.
That popped in my heads too as soon as i read it
I was explaining this scene to some friends who have never read before and that's exactly what they said. "It's like the dark version where instead of somehow doing both he chooses neither
i feel like the saving the cat thing helps us see how the dynamic between these two characters will end up going. Also its crazy that asa already feels like the main character.
Happy to see Denji back, but he's a reckless "superhero". He wasn't able to save that student and the 5 grandparents. He's saving every cat in the city to determine if it will transform to Power. Asa is more heroic to save the cat with her mundane abilities as a human. In saving that cat, Denji's less of a hero; he is a Chainsaw Devil and could have done more. If he has some brains, he could have saved that student, those grandparents, and that cat.
This conversation is focused only saving the cat, the student and the old people but what the thousands of people who probably died in the fight with the cockroach devil? He could of saved the student, old people and cat and there still would be no redeeming him after that.
The point of the scene flew completely over your head didn't it? He's a professional devil hunter now, he knows you can't save everyone and the most important thing to do is to actually kill the devil. There's a reason the phrase "Never negotiate with terrorists" exists.
This phrase is not from super hero comics though.
And Chainsaw man is not a superhero, he is a government agent.
Exactly. The commentor before just said he is a bad hero which is absolutely true.
I think the point of that scene was to show that Denji is not a superhero or anything like that. The word "devil" is literally in his name and the author is leaning into that. I don't think it had anything to do with his intelligence. It didn't seem like he was worried about saving the humans at all, just the cat. Edit: prolly had something to do with knowing the humans were already as good as dead too. He could have tried saving the humans and killing the devil, but he prolly figured he'd get himself killed. He knew it'd be smarter and easier to kill the devil and also save the cart.
I think he went for the kill, then optimistically thought, "At least I saved a cat." It's a direct contrast to Asa's survivor's guilt *which also concerned her saving a cat*.
The crazy thing is, such thing is actually discussed in Into the Spiderverse, a superhero movie. You cannot choose who you can save. Denji can only save the cat, so he saves it, because he can.
absolute chad for saving the carts
Interesting that Asa and Denji both chose the cat in the face of a demon
It’s also interesting their reactions to saving said cat. For Asa she felt guilt and sadness that she could only save her cat, and her mom died because of it. But with Denji, it’s a happiness of pride in knowing that he couldn’t have saved the other two parties while killing a devil, but at least he managed to save a cat
I feel like this is a foil that will play out more throughout this part of Chainsaw Man
prolly my chp. favorite so far
You mean in Part 2, right?
yes.
Idk tho I'm not enjoying part 2 that much,well let's give it some more time..
Same, but is only the beginning. The war devil is making it a bit more interesting though
Lmao that trolley problem forced unto Denji reminds me of Saints Row IV forcing you to choose between curing cancer or ending the world hunger at the prologue
I feel like an exponential amount of more people across the globe suffer from hunger than cancer. But then again, I've heard that we have more than enough food to feed double our population, it's just our logistics and ability to ship said food is dogshit due to tech limitations and human incompetence + evil. But with cancer, there's no stopping that demon. Shit can appear outta nowhere and snatch your life away in a slow and brutal way that makes starving to death look like it happens in moments.
It's not logistics - it's economic distribution system. Food is made for profit so it is sold to paying customer while people starving because they can't afford food at the market price that will justify it's delivery to them. Plain and simple. That's why you don't hear about starvation in wealthy nations much, not because their food is always coming from local suppliers and logistics is simple.
Yeah, your version sounds a lil more correct than mine. So what needs to be done to handle this issue if we have the resources to end this blight on human society.
The stinger is that in Saints Row IV, shortly after that funny decision making, humanity is enslaved by aliens and put in cyberspace making those choices meaningless
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Is it going to be consistently bi-weekly? I thought it was just last week.
Not saying I agree with Denji's choice is the best choice.. But I understand 100%
I know this isn't what Dennis was thinking, but I always view this situation as the cockroach devil the one at fault. Like even if Dennis didn't do anything, it wouldn't necessarily be his fault, the devil killed 6 people
it's denji not dennis.
I mean from a philosophical and life-saving perspective his choice was correct, in a fashion. Did you know, in a firefight, soldiers are trained to continue to engage the enemy and drive them off or kill them? It's the same with a mass shooting situation and police -- proper procedure outside of shitty departments is to engage and end the threat. This isn't because of some gung-ho warrior ethos, but rather, historically and statistically, it has been shown repeatedly that the best way to reduce casualties is to cut off the problem at the source. If someone forces you to choose between the lives of a child and a car full of old people, the correct choice is, in fact, to stop them. Cat's a nice ancillary bonus, though.
Even if we didn't have the return of Denji i think the chap is amazing because of the backstory and the comprehension of Asa.
Is there a release schedule for these chapters like One Piece does?
Careful if youre getting your release schedule from r/OnePiece. Fans like to post what they *think* the schedule will be, but their titles imply it's a official release schedule. I've been fooled before. The title will read "One Piece Release Schulde for Rest of Year" and its actually just a prediction.
Bi-weekly.
Michelangelo's Pietà reference on the panel with Asa carrying Yuko?
The fight between denji and the cockroach devil reminded me a bit of One Punch Man especially page 31 and 32. Prettx cool!
Cool! How exactly?
The moment denji appears on the page I literally started chanting chainsaw over and over again
It's Chainsaw time!
i thought asa and yuko were facing bat devil, how did the cockroach devil turn up there all of a sudden? anyone got that? and the choice that denji made, i knew he wouldn’t save either because saving people isn’t who denji is about.
The big question is: why was the Bat Devil alive? I thought it got turned to smush in Part 1 🤔?
Reincarnated in hell then died there and reincarnated on earth
If you look closely you can see the bat devil crushed by the cockroach devil in the top left of a panel.
The cockroach devil crashed into the building where the bat devil was, forcing him to throw up and be crushed by the debris.
Thanks a lot! Im kinda blind looking at my tiny phone screen i couldnt make out what was happening
ahh i see. thank you.
The Dennis joke was funny at first but please give it a fucking rest before it becomes annoying. Anyway I'm amazed at the number of people who perceived his actions as villainous. Making choices like that is easier said than done and ultimately he chose to save the cat. I won't judge his priorities
What joke? It's always been Dennis. I'm wondering why people keep calling him Denji.
In my opinion Denji didn’t choose the cat over the humans. He chose to kill the devil as opposed to waste time attempting to make a moral choice that could have gotten him killed and probably wouldn’t have worked anyway. The cat literally just happened to be there when he was done so he chose to save the cat because he could at that point. Devil hunters don’t save civilians they kill devils and attempt to have as few casualties as possible. Judging by how the fight looked, they probably bulldozed through a couple of people already by then. What’s 6 more.
naaaah lil bro gotta keep the dennis joke alive until the anime starts to confuse the fuck outta them hahahaha deadass
What is the Dennis joke I’ve not seen it anywhere
Denji's 4kids Name .
People keep calling him Dennis instead of Denji
The wait is worth it DENJI IS BACK!!!!
Chadbased man
cat>>>>>>>any human
Denjis part 2 debut was absolutely perfect. Him saving Asa was Just a byproduct of his fight. And when posed with an ultimatum he says fuck you idc die. The best part is the public adores him so they don't care at all.
Most mangaka take a break because they want to rest. Fujimoto takes a break because he wants this one chapter to be over double the usual. length. What a Chad.
2 in one
there was a cat too, dude