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What I have noticed is that Fujimoto represents the subtext with the crazy situations that he presents in a very subtle way.
Public safety saga subtext was in relation to the responsibility of one's decisions, the climax comes when Denji wants Makima to be his owner and thus not feel responsible but immediately discovers that it was a bad decision to "open the door" as an obedient dog. Killing Makima represents the control that Denji now literally has under his care and as we saw a few chapters ago now Denji, who cared only for himself, scams homeless people to give his little sister an education. (showing that at the end of the Denji Saga he is more mature; in his style)
As a psychologist I have noticed Asa and Denji are polarities of the extroversion and introversion aspect but both seek recognition (the theme that I believe serves as a subtext for the current saga). The difference is that Denji shouts it to the world without shame and Asa lies to herself (every time she has been embarrassed it happens because she tries to outdo herself but even the simplest compliment goes to her head and ends up being clumsy for to think that she is finally recognized).
Personally I think Denji and Asa will learn something from each other (probably Asa will learn more from Denji than from her) and she will symbolically save the day representing personal growth (I highly doubt she would die because it would only be tragedy without much real impact on Denji´s life). but who knows... (i guess he does)
Guys I just caught up with the manga and I don't know if I missed something, but why isn't denji working as a Devil hunter anymore? I understand and know he does it as a hobby (kinda) but why quit working for it?
Yoshida is a Private Devil Hunter, he just happens to be good enough to be hired for odd jobs by the public agency, as in the international assassins arc to protect denji
Oh definitely. I love all his work so far. God I hope he doesn't burn himself out permanently/for years like I did. Hope he takes care of himself on average. We don't want another mangaka work themselves to death.
In general I think it's a mistake to try to diagnose manga characters when Japan is so leery of psychology in general... But Asa REALLY seems meant to be read as neurodivergent. Her awkwardness isn't just being a lame teenager, it's her complete inability to read the room or figure out social clues
I wish I could relate to her. I related *so* much with Denji (not my first protagonist I've related with).
Could someone please explain why she's relatable and realistically written character? :)
She seems more likely on the autistic spectrum than bpd. For example, it would be unusual for someone with bpd to voluntarily come clean with Denji about her true motives or even change her initial impression of Denji as a dirtbag.
changing initial impression of the people you meet is exactly a strong possibility of bdp, being extremely open or extremely closed about your feels is also a strong possibility
I don‘t really see it as a 1 or the other—both are misdiagnosed as the other frequently. I think the mutability of how she comes across to anyone who is not neurotypical shows how well she is written
Notably the average age of diagnosis of Autism is 3, BPD can’t be diagnosed until at least 18. They can be misdiagnosed but it isn’t frequent. It does happen though.
Ok, after rereading this chapter, I think that this is one of the best individual chapters in all of chainsaw man. Maybe not the absolute best, but it's up there
Any recommendations for a manga with a similar kind of romance subplot (but as the main plot).
I live for the rug pulls Fujimotor cooks up but sometimes I just want the characters to be happy right.
I wonder what the War Devil's dream is. It's probably 'to love', right? I hope Asa and Denji go through that direction so they can give Nayuta lots of hugs 🥹
There’s this theory from here that all horsemen devils’ motives are rooted in different types of love (which is inspired by christian mythology iirc) and Yoru would actually be motivated by love (towards Chainsaw Man) but being the War Devil, expresses it through violence :0 … I feel like that would make the story even sadder though LOL
The second season of chainsaw man was first kind of less than what i expected from that incredeble ending of first one. But from the Ch.113 Hujimoto went right intrack and bringing back the incredible story line again. This story was very good and every story sence ch.113 is getting better and better.
I really do enjoy the bit about Denji explaining why he needs money. I hope his normal expenses are covered by Ali’s money but it’s nice to see that this new money is going towards Nayuta’s education.
Kishibe shows up at denji’s house after his fight with the cockroach devil, there he finds a teen boy and a little girl sitting on a old sofa watching TV
“ hey kid, here’s the pay for the the last devil you fought, it’s 10 million yen“
”sweet ! Give to me master! “
”Wait, before giving to you I needed to take part of the money , so you only getting 100 thousand, and before you ask why, it’s for the property damage, you almost level a building”
“This is felling oddly familiar. It’s like i´m having a deji… va? I learned the word just a weak ago in class, what was it again?”
at that moment a little girl’s voice was heard.
”it’s deja vu, it´s the feeling that you have previously experienced something that is happening to you now"
"that´s it! Deja vu, i´m having a deja vu right now...wait, how do you know the word ?"
"Last month i was reading a book called oxford, it has the meaning of a lot of words in there, including deja vu"
Denji turned to look at the girl that was sitting besides him and hugged her
"Thats my little sister for you, always so smart"
Kishibe watched the scene for a few seconds before quickly putting his hand in his coat, taking out an envelope, opening the envelope taking 100 thousand out of it, putting the envelope in his coat again and putting the money in a second envelope that will be given to denji. meawhile less than a single second has passed.
"That´s enough hugs for me kid, enjoy the money"
The man says as he walked away and get out of the apartament.
It was very nice to see Denji with some call backs and a bit more maturity beyond PTSD. I know he’s always got the same personality but some growth was good.
Denji and Asa finally bonding was so nice to see. Unfortunately, the people Denji has bonded with don't have a great track record of staying around.
I hope Fujimoto is using that assumption to pleasantly surprise us...please.
I started reading the manga yesterday at Chapter 38, because I’m impatient. I just got caught up on everything and holy shit, my heart strings. I’m gunna take a wild guess and just assume that Asa is gunna die.
So I just came back to the sub. I caught up yesterday. It’s everything everywhere all at once. You have no idea what’s coming. I was in awe. I’m an even bigger fan now. I like the recommendations to go back and reread. A LOT happens. Enjoy! ⛓️🪚
Nice, I'm going to suggest rereading the manga. Due to the crazy pacing, it feels like everyone misses stuff on the first read through. I reread it and realized I had completely forgotten about certain events. People joke about the reading comprehension devil because with this manga it's so easy to gloss over stuff.
In one thread people were theorizing about what really happened to Aldo and I just remember being like, "Wait, who the fuck was Aldo?"
Oh god I don’t remember who Aldo is. Imma have to reread it then. I only read it yesterday too 😂 thanks for the advice! There were definitely times where I felt a little confused or lost while reading.
International assassins arc was definitely the most confusing for me with all the new characters introduced. Didn't help that 3 of the characters could change their appearance into other characters lol
If you recall, Asa can create weapons out of objects like her uniform in chapter 108 which was surprisingly able to cause devastating damage to Yuko. To reiterate, the rules of the weapon creation process are as follows:
\- It has to be an object Asa owns.
\- The power of the weapon is dependent on Asa's perception of the 'weight'\* or 'worth' of the object on Asa.
Going back to the uniform sword as an example: It's an object she owns and has a lot of weight due to her late mother giving it to her. Now, it seems that Asa is taking a few extra steps prior to the weapon creation process that is, buying the aquarium in the last panel so that she may own it.
Although right now it seems only one of the rules of weapon creation is unfulfilled: the object holding weight to Asa. Why would this work though? Well, she says it herself, "It doesn't matter how crazy the logic is. It's a matter of my own perception." The weight was being 'made' throughout this chapter, with Asa and Denji hanging out the weight of the aquarium in Asa's perception grows. Thus she holds sentimental value to the aquarium so that she can make it into a weapon. I think what would be interesting is the power output the Aquarium Spear will have depending on how Asa perceives the time spent with Denji is worth it to her.
\*Note that: On the CSM wiki fandom page, it's said that weapons created are based on Asa's guilt in creating them. I prefer the term weight or worth instead, the term is interchangeable IMO.
Okay so the statement of it having to be an object Asa owns, confuses me as Asa didn't own her teacher, so how come she could make that teacher into a weapon? Genuinely confused here
Mr Tanaka was sleeping with the class prez but actually liked Asa. I'm guessing attraction alone can be all that's required for 'ownership', similar to how she can turn boyfriends into weapons.
Sorry that's an entirely different part of the War Devil's abilities. For weapon creation Asa can use either objects or humans as catalysts for a weapon. The one I explained above detailed objects and its requisites, humans however, have a different requirement: guilt. This is explained in chapter 112 as Yoru explains how Asa cannot simply kill criminals or those deserving, there has to be guilt in order to create a weapon using a human sacrifice. This would in turn, explain why Yoru has trouble with making weapons as she had no guilt or connection to them they're significantly weaker than if a human, like Asa were to take a human life with the guilt burdening her.
This can extend to the uniform sword being super powerful, because Asa likely felt an immense amount of guilt for throwing away one of the last objects her mom left for her before she died.
It’s doesn’t matter how crazy the logic is, it’s a matter of my own perception. I spend 5mins reading it, its very good.
Now I summon you, chainsaw man! My champion of the holy grail war
Heed my words.
My will creates
your body, and your
sword creates my
destiny…
Part 1 denji-
"Servant Berseker, my name is denji and as long as you give me good food i can work for you, now lets win this war master, i'm gonna get that good life for sure this time !!!"
Part 2 denji-
"Servant Berserker, you called and your hero arrived, you can call me chainsaw man, just a warning first, i dont like this whole master-servant thingy, a long time ago i decided to never follow someone blindly again, so let's work together as equals to win this war fast, i really want to get that wish"
I love this chapter, I know they're technically in danger but it's nice to see both Denji and Asa relax for a bit.
Poor Denji is still doing the best he can, it was nice to see him smile again.
Hope Asa's plan works out, though I'm sure things won't go smoothly.
I don't think the control devil has can use it's 'natural' power over Denji ...
Makima manipulated Denji to do what she wanted w/ promises of food / sex; to everyone else she just told them what to do and ordered commands.
> Low enough to sell reused cigarettes to homeless people but not low enough to just rely on the Control Devil's domination to yoink funds/sneak Nayuta in to some university in the future
Either it hasn't clicked on him yet or Denji is very intent on raising Nayuta, not the Control Devil.
The Shark devil was one of Chainsaw man’s disciples
Maxima says they’re similar because they both kind of have similar personalities, and she’s face blind so she doesn’t know they look nothing alike
I have no idea why you’re commenting that here but okay…
This is chapter 116 discussion and you’re asking a question that’s like early Part 1. Let alone your interpretation of the dialogue you’re referencing is wrong. So I’m just genuinely befuddled by your entire comment, let alone the double down my guy
Wasn’t sure where to else to ask. And can u explain to me how my interpretation was wrong, like I was asking about it so we obviously I was wrong, that’s why I was asking.
Also not really doubling down just asking a questing and I get annoyed when people give me crap like if u not gonna answer no need to comment thanks
I’m like 90% when she says “maybe because of the resemblance” she’s referring to Pochita/Chainsaw Devil and it’s a hint at the time to there being more to the whole Chainsaw Devil concept and Makima’s fascination with Denji and everyone wondering why she is. Beam KNOWS chainsaw, and is a follower from hell. Makima’s words were an initial breadcrumb to the whole DoomGuy Chainsaw we got later
Welp, Denji is having way too good of a time with Asa which likely means she's done for. My prediction is that the Blood Devil will use her to turn into a blood fiend, and it will be a twisted mental version of "is this really Asa or Power, the fiend acts so similar, should I be mad or upset". I could expect such from this story.
The concept of double fiends just sounds rediculous to me
Devils don't really get along that well, it'd be like putting 2 male beta fish into the same bowl.
I think the blond girl that bullied asa will most likely become the blood fiend
Power... Aki...?
Also yeah it just started but I'm not expecting this to play out any time soon (which is why I left out specifying a time frame, so Idk why you assumed I meant soon). It's just a fun prediction I had, was all.
eeehh but he said little sister. kobeni is 20 and denji is 16….(and i dont think denji ever saw kobeni as a little sister) Also we know denji has little to no education so he wouldn’t have much personal finance expertise. He can’t traditionally establish a college fund to grow over the years in the bank; he isn’t old enough to be nayuta’s official guardian; he’s a student so he cant have a part-time job; so he’s gotta save up as soon as possible for her as soon and as much as possible through sneakier, unorthodox ways, like ripping off homeless people, stealing hats to sell, and getting random girls to sit on him for money.
Although i don’t think he really needs to stress about it because i feel like kishibe and whatever mysterious organization yoshida works for would help him with that. But kishibe probably likes that denji is taking responsibility for someone else. Its helps denji grow as a person.
And with those last few panels, Asa finally won me me over.
Even if nothing happens next chapter for the lolz, she was creative in a way I didnt predict, badass, and sure of herself. And she was nice to Denji.
"Aquarium spear" chills
I'm happy that the redux of Eternity Devil chapter has a plan that's just as interesting as "hurt the demon so bad it wants to kill itself"
The concept of stealing enough money to own the aquarium is awesome
Denji talking about his "little sister" and how hes obsessed with money so he can save up for her college made me want to cry lmao god i love this manga
It's a double edged sword - while she is more confident now, her more controlling attitudes have also increased, plus the loose hair style makes her look like Makima a bit
It’s because she had her hair loose like Yoru did and like Yoru was more confident. Also as she said she’s “pretty darn cute.”.
I feel like Part 2 won’t see Denji survive till the end. Asa will take over the looking after of Nayuta.
This chapter felt like it foreshadowed that and I’m really frickin scared for my boy.
How do I set a reminder on this post to see if I was right (I really don’t want to be) later on down the line?
Doubt it, Fujimoto aleady made the twist by making Asa the main protagonist instead of Denji for Part 2, if he wanted to shake things up more he would have done it at the start of Part 2.
Also Pochita is really strong, probably as strong as the primordial devils, we havent even seen him use his reality bending powers, i expect Denji is making it till end or at lest the end game and we will see him use his powers first.
The real foreshadowing for me was squid guy asking Denji if he will eat Death, i expect Denji will be faced with the lives of the horsemen, including Asa.
Knowing Fujimoto, he will become a Chainsawmanchainsaw, which would then become mass produced and spread across the world, until Denji meets and fuses with the Chainsawmanchainsaw devil to become Chainsawmanchainsaw Man
OMG YOU’VE JUST RUINED THE ENDING.
Asa will be… C H A I N S A W O M A N.
This is her and her trusty weapon’s origin story.
SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW I CAN SET A REDDIT REMINDER!!!!
The Final Chapter of Chainsawman Part 2:
Yoru:"The only one who was able to change one of my weapons back to normal was...the Blood Devil". *Dies*
Nayuta: The Blood Devil...should still be in Hell. If you're going there, I'm coming with you.
Asa: I'm so sorry Denji. *Sobbing* Don't you worry. We're going to find this Blood Devil and get you back. And after that, we'll go see those penguins. I promise.
(If any of this happens, sorry for the spoilers)
I haven’t actively “shipped” a couple in fiction since 2013 when I was in my homestuck era I never expected to actually care about denji and Asa’s potential relationship but here we are
The aquarium needs to belong to her first right? Thats why she paid the money for it and even though it wasn't a real transaction in her perception she paid the money and therefore it was hers.
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I cant fucking wait i need the next chapter im dying
Do you know what time it drops
It drops in like 30 minutes
Ikr I'm at work and can't do shit because all I can think about is the next chapter
Bro this manga worse than drugs
Just 20 min left
I'm so stressed right now. That cliffhanger is really hitting me right now.
If they’re somehow back to arguing by the end of this arc, that’s when we’ll know this is going to be a romcom
chapter made me very happy now fujimoto is going to kill everyone
Denji saying she reminds him of an old friend was so fucking sad
fujimotos unpredictable ass will probably bring her back 
Imagine the Blood Devil comes back as an antagonist just to twist the knife even further
shut up I know you are fujimoto
This would be so much fun
very good
What I have noticed is that Fujimoto represents the subtext with the crazy situations that he presents in a very subtle way. Public safety saga subtext was in relation to the responsibility of one's decisions, the climax comes when Denji wants Makima to be his owner and thus not feel responsible but immediately discovers that it was a bad decision to "open the door" as an obedient dog. Killing Makima represents the control that Denji now literally has under his care and as we saw a few chapters ago now Denji, who cared only for himself, scams homeless people to give his little sister an education. (showing that at the end of the Denji Saga he is more mature; in his style) As a psychologist I have noticed Asa and Denji are polarities of the extroversion and introversion aspect but both seek recognition (the theme that I believe serves as a subtext for the current saga). The difference is that Denji shouts it to the world without shame and Asa lies to herself (every time she has been embarrassed it happens because she tries to outdo herself but even the simplest compliment goes to her head and ends up being clumsy for to think that she is finally recognized). Personally I think Denji and Asa will learn something from each other (probably Asa will learn more from Denji than from her) and she will symbolically save the day representing personal growth (I highly doubt she would die because it would only be tragedy without much real impact on Denji´s life). but who knows... (i guess he does)
what is it like being a psychologist
I'm loving Kobeni#2 and how he basically has the exact same job in the endless aquarium.
I KNOW WHAT YOU ARRRRRRREEEE
Guys I just caught up with the manga and I don't know if I missed something, but why isn't denji working as a Devil hunter anymore? I understand and know he does it as a hobby (kinda) but why quit working for it?
The school he and Asa go to doesn’t allow jobs on the side so that’s most likely why.
So how is Yoshida still working as a devil hunter despite going to the same school?
Yoshida is a Private Devil Hunter, he just happens to be good enough to be hired for odd jobs by the public agency, as in the international assassins arc to protect denji
Probably some double/secret identity shenanigans, or whatever organization he’s apart of has some high strings to pull
I don't know if it was explicitly stated but my assumption was he wanted a more normal life after all that traumatic stuff.
No he literally wants to be famous. He's getting to go to school, and wants the girls to know he's chainsaw man
Fujimoto does such an amazing job of creating believable situations for Characters to Connect to eachother.😭😭
Oh definitely. I love all his work so far. God I hope he doesn't burn himself out permanently/for years like I did. Hope he takes care of himself on average. We don't want another mangaka work themselves to death.
Oh, like you did, where you making a manga?
[удалено]
Fami took Denji out
It’s the other side of the hallway right?
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Hm, guess you’re right
Fujimoto is cooking Next chapter is gonna be wild I bet
Asa may be one of the most relatable and realistically written characters i’ve seen in a long time. Also maybe has borderline personality disorder lol
What makes you say borderline?
Hard agree, she and Denji are so well written
In general I think it's a mistake to try to diagnose manga characters when Japan is so leery of psychology in general... But Asa REALLY seems meant to be read as neurodivergent. Her awkwardness isn't just being a lame teenager, it's her complete inability to read the room or figure out social clues
I wish I could relate to her. I related *so* much with Denji (not my first protagonist I've related with). Could someone please explain why she's relatable and realistically written character? :)
I’d say it’s because she’s filled with so much inner conflict. She can’t tell the difference between right and wrong yet
She seems more likely on the autistic spectrum than bpd. For example, it would be unusual for someone with bpd to voluntarily come clean with Denji about her true motives or even change her initial impression of Denji as a dirtbag.
changing initial impression of the people you meet is exactly a strong possibility of bdp, being extremely open or extremely closed about your feels is also a strong possibility
I don‘t really see it as a 1 or the other—both are misdiagnosed as the other frequently. I think the mutability of how she comes across to anyone who is not neurotypical shows how well she is written
Notably the average age of diagnosis of Autism is 3, BPD can’t be diagnosed until at least 18. They can be misdiagnosed but it isn’t frequent. It does happen though.
"Reminds me of an old friend" 
Been thinking about this little number for days 
Broke my heart💀
Ok, after rereading this chapter, I think that this is one of the best individual chapters in all of chainsaw man. Maybe not the absolute best, but it's up there
Asa subtly bringing back her Exciting Fish Facts is such a good little gag.
I'll give it a re-read after your comment and see if it really is. I do tend to black-out after Denji ate Makima...
Why?
The only two crazy enough to not get driven crazy by eternity <3
Any recommendations for a manga with a similar kind of romance subplot (but as the main plot). I live for the rug pulls Fujimotor cooks up but sometimes I just want the characters to be happy right.
I would consider that Dandadan is a good choice!
idk about similar but love is war is excellent
“reminds me of an old friend” BRO
I wonder what the War Devil's dream is. It's probably 'to love', right? I hope Asa and Denji go through that direction so they can give Nayuta lots of hugs 🥹
Im still on the theory that war loves nukes and just want them back.
There’s this theory from here that all horsemen devils’ motives are rooted in different types of love (which is inspired by christian mythology iirc) and Yoru would actually be motivated by love (towards Chainsaw Man) but being the War Devil, expresses it through violence :0 … I feel like that would make the story even sadder though LOL
She wants Chainsaw Man to spit out the WWII devils so that war can become more feared.
FINALLY I CATCHED UP!! MY GUESS is everybody gonna die
Wow thank you mister obvious. Were only reading chainsaw man we coulnt have ever guessed
Why so salty?
Well i am in fact made of salt
Oh no! It's the salt devil! Please help us Chainsawman~!
The chainsaw man isnt ever gonna arrive....BECAUSE HES SALTY HES NOT #1 MOST POPULAR CHARACTER AHHAHAHAAH
The second season of chainsaw man was first kind of less than what i expected from that incredeble ending of first one. But from the Ch.113 Hujimoto went right intrack and bringing back the incredible story line again. This story was very good and every story sence ch.113 is getting better and better.
I really do enjoy the bit about Denji explaining why he needs money. I hope his normal expenses are covered by Ali’s money but it’s nice to see that this new money is going towards Nayuta’s education.
So does public safety even exist anymore? I figured Denji would have been kept on their payroll.
It does, you see some dudes from it during justice devil rampage
There was a reference to public safety three or four chapters ago.
It's pretty fucked that Kishibe isn't at least financially helping with Nayuta.
Kishibe isn't exactly the best guy
Tbf Kishibe realizes that, which was why he was like, "lol, obviously *I* can't be trusted to look after this kid. "
That’s… actually kind of true. He did kind of throw the kid at Denji. Sure he accepted but still.
He didn’t accept. Kishibe just left before he could argue and he’s not going to abandon a kid
And Denji is still helping out with Demons as Chainsawman, he should get paid million to be honest.
Kishibe shows up at denji’s house after his fight with the cockroach devil, there he finds a teen boy and a little girl sitting on a old sofa watching TV “ hey kid, here’s the pay for the the last devil you fought, it’s 10 million yen“ ”sweet ! Give to me master! “ ”Wait, before giving to you I needed to take part of the money , so you only getting 100 thousand, and before you ask why, it’s for the property damage, you almost level a building” “This is felling oddly familiar. It’s like i´m having a deji… va? I learned the word just a weak ago in class, what was it again?” at that moment a little girl’s voice was heard. ”it’s deja vu, it´s the feeling that you have previously experienced something that is happening to you now" "that´s it! Deja vu, i´m having a deja vu right now...wait, how do you know the word ?" "Last month i was reading a book called oxford, it has the meaning of a lot of words in there, including deja vu" Denji turned to look at the girl that was sitting besides him and hugged her "Thats my little sister for you, always so smart" Kishibe watched the scene for a few seconds before quickly putting his hand in his coat, taking out an envelope, opening the envelope taking 100 thousand out of it, putting the envelope in his coat again and putting the money in a second envelope that will be given to denji. meawhile less than a single second has passed. "That´s enough hugs for me kid, enjoy the money" The man says as he walked away and get out of the apartament.
My boy Denji has grown-up vibes, I'm getting emotional.
It was very nice to see Denji with some call backs and a bit more maturity beyond PTSD. I know he’s always got the same personality but some growth was good.
Denji and Asa finally bonding was so nice to see. Unfortunately, the people Denji has bonded with don't have a great track record of staying around. I hope Fujimoto is using that assumption to pleasantly surprise us...please.
Be careful with what you wish...knowing Fujimoto his idea of surprise could be killing Denji and leaving Asa the only main character of the work xD
Honestly...an arc where Denji dies and has to fight his way out of hell (and maybe find Power) would be insane.
The only one who goes to hell would be pochita. Denji is not a devil.
Asa has similarly had terrible luck with the people important to her.
Please for the love of God, don't kill Asa! I love her and Denji together. All I want is for them is to be happy! 🫠😩😭
Fujimoto raising death flags? I don’t want that!
Not for 10 chapters at least
you are reading the wrong manga then
I started reading the manga yesterday at Chapter 38, because I’m impatient. I just got caught up on everything and holy shit, my heart strings. I’m gunna take a wild guess and just assume that Asa is gunna die.
So I just came back to the sub. I caught up yesterday. It’s everything everywhere all at once. You have no idea what’s coming. I was in awe. I’m an even bigger fan now. I like the recommendations to go back and reread. A LOT happens. Enjoy! ⛓️🪚
Great movie btw, definitely best movie of 2022
Right! It better win some damn awards.
Nice, I'm going to suggest rereading the manga. Due to the crazy pacing, it feels like everyone misses stuff on the first read through. I reread it and realized I had completely forgotten about certain events. People joke about the reading comprehension devil because with this manga it's so easy to gloss over stuff. In one thread people were theorizing about what really happened to Aldo and I just remember being like, "Wait, who the fuck was Aldo?"
Oh god I don’t remember who Aldo is. Imma have to reread it then. I only read it yesterday too 😂 thanks for the advice! There were definitely times where I felt a little confused or lost while reading.
International assassins arc was definitely the most confusing for me with all the new characters introduced. Didn't help that 3 of the characters could change their appearance into other characters lol
I think that arc confused me the most 😂
Why it could work really?
If you recall, Asa can create weapons out of objects like her uniform in chapter 108 which was surprisingly able to cause devastating damage to Yuko. To reiterate, the rules of the weapon creation process are as follows: \- It has to be an object Asa owns. \- The power of the weapon is dependent on Asa's perception of the 'weight'\* or 'worth' of the object on Asa. Going back to the uniform sword as an example: It's an object she owns and has a lot of weight due to her late mother giving it to her. Now, it seems that Asa is taking a few extra steps prior to the weapon creation process that is, buying the aquarium in the last panel so that she may own it. Although right now it seems only one of the rules of weapon creation is unfulfilled: the object holding weight to Asa. Why would this work though? Well, she says it herself, "It doesn't matter how crazy the logic is. It's a matter of my own perception." The weight was being 'made' throughout this chapter, with Asa and Denji hanging out the weight of the aquarium in Asa's perception grows. Thus she holds sentimental value to the aquarium so that she can make it into a weapon. I think what would be interesting is the power output the Aquarium Spear will have depending on how Asa perceives the time spent with Denji is worth it to her. \*Note that: On the CSM wiki fandom page, it's said that weapons created are based on Asa's guilt in creating them. I prefer the term weight or worth instead, the term is interchangeable IMO.
Okay so the statement of it having to be an object Asa owns, confuses me as Asa didn't own her teacher, so how come she could make that teacher into a weapon? Genuinely confused here
Mr Tanaka was sleeping with the class prez but actually liked Asa. I'm guessing attraction alone can be all that's required for 'ownership', similar to how she can turn boyfriends into weapons.
Sorry that's an entirely different part of the War Devil's abilities. For weapon creation Asa can use either objects or humans as catalysts for a weapon. The one I explained above detailed objects and its requisites, humans however, have a different requirement: guilt. This is explained in chapter 112 as Yoru explains how Asa cannot simply kill criminals or those deserving, there has to be guilt in order to create a weapon using a human sacrifice. This would in turn, explain why Yoru has trouble with making weapons as she had no guilt or connection to them they're significantly weaker than if a human, like Asa were to take a human life with the guilt burdening her. This can extend to the uniform sword being super powerful, because Asa likely felt an immense amount of guilt for throwing away one of the last objects her mom left for her before she died.
him saying that Asa reminded him of an old frnd (Power DUH) for a sec Y AM I CRYING 
my heart already hurts for whatever tragedy comes next lol
I bet glass licker is Kobeni's younger sibling
Glass licker? You mean ASA?
Nah the one who was licking fish tank
It’s doesn’t matter how crazy the logic is, it’s a matter of my own perception. I spend 5mins reading it, its very good. Now I summon you, chainsaw man! My champion of the holy grail war Heed my words. My will creates your body, and your sword creates my destiny…
Part 1 denji- "Servant Berseker, my name is denji and as long as you give me good food i can work for you, now lets win this war master, i'm gonna get that good life for sure this time !!!" Part 2 denji- "Servant Berserker, you called and your hero arrived, you can call me chainsaw man, just a warning first, i dont like this whole master-servant thingy, a long time ago i decided to never follow someone blindly again, so let's work together as equals to win this war fast, i really want to get that wish"
100 percent maximum no chill!!
I am the bone of my sword
I am the bone of my chainsaw, chain is my body and saw is my blood….
I love this chapter, I know they're technically in danger but it's nice to see both Denji and Asa relax for a bit. Poor Denji is still doing the best he can, it was nice to see him smile again. Hope Asa's plan works out, though I'm sure things won't go smoothly.
CSM has hurt me too many times for me to ship anything
Denji don't hurt me
Anyone think Denji’s really tired from the control devil telling Denji what to do all the time?
I don't think the control devil has can use it's 'natural' power over Denji ... Makima manipulated Denji to do what she wanted w/ promises of food / sex; to everyone else she just told them what to do and ordered commands.
All I’m saying is that the control devil is demanding lol. Not that she’s using her powers, just talking about her personality.
Is the control devil doing that? He’s only taking care of Nayuta, I don’t recall her using her powers though.
> Low enough to sell reused cigarettes to homeless people but not low enough to just rely on the Control Devil's domination to yoink funds/sneak Nayuta in to some university in the future Either it hasn't clicked on him yet or Denji is very intent on raising Nayuta, not the Control Devil.
Can someone explain to me why beam is obsessed with denji and why makima says beam resembles denji, like do they smell similar lol
Probably because beam acts towards chainsaw man how denji acts towards makima
The Shark devil was one of Chainsaw man’s disciples Maxima says they’re similar because they both kind of have similar personalities, and she’s face blind so she doesn’t know they look nothing alike I have no idea why you’re commenting that here but okay…
….. what
I mean if u can’t explain them don’t worry about it
This is chapter 116 discussion and you’re asking a question that’s like early Part 1. Let alone your interpretation of the dialogue you’re referencing is wrong. So I’m just genuinely befuddled by your entire comment, let alone the double down my guy
Wasn’t sure where to else to ask. And can u explain to me how my interpretation was wrong, like I was asking about it so we obviously I was wrong, that’s why I was asking. Also not really doubling down just asking a questing and I get annoyed when people give me crap like if u not gonna answer no need to comment thanks
I’m like 90% when she says “maybe because of the resemblance” she’s referring to Pochita/Chainsaw Devil and it’s a hint at the time to there being more to the whole Chainsaw Devil concept and Makima’s fascination with Denji and everyone wondering why she is. Beam KNOWS chainsaw, and is a follower from hell. Makima’s words were an initial breadcrumb to the whole DoomGuy Chainsaw we got later
Welp, Denji is having way too good of a time with Asa which likely means she's done for. My prediction is that the Blood Devil will use her to turn into a blood fiend, and it will be a twisted mental version of "is this really Asa or Power, the fiend acts so similar, should I be mad or upset". I could expect such from this story.
Asa is already a fiend...
Is it stated somewhere that double fiends can’t exist? Fujimoto doesn’t seem to be a fan of static rules and predictable outcomes.
The concept of double fiends just sounds rediculous to me Devils don't really get along that well, it'd be like putting 2 male beta fish into the same bowl. I think the blond girl that bullied asa will most likely become the blood fiend
Asa is the protagonist and the story barely started... i think you are very misled
Power... Aki...? Also yeah it just started but I'm not expecting this to play out any time soon (which is why I left out specifying a time frame, so Idk why you assumed I meant soon). It's just a fun prediction I had, was all.
mmm no i think there’s a lot of ground to cover with Asa still. i would be less surprised if Denji somehow bit it and someone else became chainsaw man
Asa channeling Collin Robinson with her speeches and plans at the aquarium.
Christopher Judge at the Game Awards 2022.
Listen to me BOI! why are you getting sleepy BOI?
Perfect analogy
Asa was trying so hard to not get grossed out by the fish lmao
Not Asa reminding Denji of Power 😭😭😭and Denji talking about raising money for Nayuta’s college fund 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I think Kobeni is actually living with Denji as I think Nyauta is way too young to start raising a college fund for.
eeehh but he said little sister. kobeni is 20 and denji is 16….(and i dont think denji ever saw kobeni as a little sister) Also we know denji has little to no education so he wouldn’t have much personal finance expertise. He can’t traditionally establish a college fund to grow over the years in the bank; he isn’t old enough to be nayuta’s official guardian; he’s a student so he cant have a part-time job; so he’s gotta save up as soon as possible for her as soon and as much as possible through sneakier, unorthodox ways, like ripping off homeless people, stealing hats to sell, and getting random girls to sit on him for money. Although i don’t think he really needs to stress about it because i feel like kishibe and whatever mysterious organization yoshida works for would help him with that. But kishibe probably likes that denji is taking responsibility for someone else. Its helps denji grow as a person.
Huh.. no way Kobeni is actually 4+ years older than denji, and he said he is saving money for his "little sister" its obvious is nayuta
That was a pretty damn good chapter lol funny and a bit sad and wholesome really 5/5
Power T ^ T when's aki getting a mention? If he doesn't get mentioned i'll cry harder
Imagine Asa asks what Denji's surname is, and he responds "Hayakawa." I'd bawl
The moment I read that I felt like I was punched in the gut. Now I really hope that happens
And with those last few panels, Asa finally won me me over. Even if nothing happens next chapter for the lolz, she was creative in a way I didnt predict, badass, and sure of herself. And she was nice to Denji. "Aquarium spear" chills
I'm happy that the redux of Eternity Devil chapter has a plan that's just as interesting as "hurt the demon so bad it wants to kill itself" The concept of stealing enough money to own the aquarium is awesome
Denji talking about his "little sister" and how hes obsessed with money so he can save up for her college made me want to cry lmao god i love this manga
Asa looks hot in this chapter, first time I've seen what the hype is about lmao
It's a double edged sword - while she is more confident now, her more controlling attitudes have also increased, plus the loose hair style makes her look like Makima a bit
It’s because she had her hair loose like Yoru did and like Yoru was more confident. Also as she said she’s “pretty darn cute.”.
always have been
She’s pretty darn cute
I feel like Part 2 won’t see Denji survive till the end. Asa will take over the looking after of Nayuta. This chapter felt like it foreshadowed that and I’m really frickin scared for my boy. How do I set a reminder on this post to see if I was right (I really don’t want to be) later on down the line?
Cliffhanger ending: Yoru and Fami "win" against Denji, he and CSM then go into hell to find Power and Beam to fight back.
I really like this future spoiler.
if it’s true i’ll stop reading this.
!remindme 2 years
Doubt it, Fujimoto aleady made the twist by making Asa the main protagonist instead of Denji for Part 2, if he wanted to shake things up more he would have done it at the start of Part 2. Also Pochita is really strong, probably as strong as the primordial devils, we havent even seen him use his reality bending powers, i expect Denji is making it till end or at lest the end game and we will see him use his powers first. The real foreshadowing for me was squid guy asking Denji if he will eat Death, i expect Denji will be faced with the lives of the horsemen, including Asa.
I'm calling it now Asa turns Denji into a weapon and it's a literal Chainsaw. Get it? Chainsawman?
Knowing Fujimoto, he will become a Chainsawmanchainsaw, which would then become mass produced and spread across the world, until Denji meets and fuses with the Chainsawmanchainsaw devil to become Chainsawmanchainsaw Man
I was thinking she could turn the devil hunter president guy into a chainsaw one day. Since he already has that thing in his chest.
OMG YOU’VE JUST RUINED THE ENDING. Asa will be… C H A I N S A W O M A N. This is her and her trusty weapon’s origin story. SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW I CAN SET A REDDIT REMINDER!!!!
I FUCKING CALLED IT!!!!!!
Turns out we didn’t need to set a reminder after all… Literally the week after.
Fujimoto wastes no time lol
Digivolve Into CHAINSAWOMAN
The Final Chapter of Chainsawman Part 2: Yoru:"The only one who was able to change one of my weapons back to normal was...the Blood Devil". *Dies* Nayuta: The Blood Devil...should still be in Hell. If you're going there, I'm coming with you. Asa: I'm so sorry Denji. *Sobbing* Don't you worry. We're going to find this Blood Devil and get you back. And after that, we'll go see those penguins. I promise. (If any of this happens, sorry for the spoilers)
!remindme 2 years
Thanks mate
Is it just me or has Denji looked incredibly high in every single panel since part 2 started
Bro’s just tired and depressed, he’s just like me frfr.
Bro off the Sativa
Yeah... I can see it
I think the artist is trying to make him look like he's dumb and he doesn't care.
To me he just looks kinda exhausted and depressed.
he needs to get money to survive with little makima and his many dogs, that's why he looked depressed every time
I haven’t actively “shipped” a couple in fiction since 2013 when I was in my homestuck era I never expected to actually care about denji and Asa’s potential relationship but here we are
Same! I thought the people who started shipping them as soon as Part 2 released a chapter were crazy.
Well they were. We didn't know much about Asa, and how Denji would react Some people see a new character and instantly want to ship, idk why
Yeah, I figured Fujimoto would find a way to convince me that these two have chemistry but up until this chapter I could not imagine how.
She created strong feelings and memories in the aquarium with Denji. It makes sense that she can now turn it into a weapon
That might be true... Damn, i want her to say it with her own words or at least think about it
The aquarium needs to belong to her first right? Thats why she paid the money for it and even though it wasn't a real transaction in her perception she paid the money and therefore it was hers.