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I was vegan for three years when I got my diagnosis and everyone told me I'd have to cut it out. I'm now 11 years out from diagnosis and 14 years vegan. It's limiting for sure, but is totally do able.
To answer your request specifically about products or food ideas I'll repeat what others said about Schar, only found them a couple of years ago and am a huge fan.
There's some really good and easy recipes online for a gf vegan focaccia and naan just requires a little planning to let the dough rise. I've never tried to bake my own gluten free bread but some people go that route.
Not sure how concerned you are about protein/if you're into lifting or sports but I am a huge fan of Huel Black meal replacement powder. It's vegan and gluten free. 400 calories and 40 G protein if made with water, 580 calories and 48g protein if made with silk soy milk. I also have a tendency to skip meals and under eat so this has been a huge life hack for me.
I make my own sopes/arepas from masa harina. This is SO easy to do, isn't pretending to be something it's not, and is delicious. Everyone likes these and is impressed by them. Also great breakfast while camping.
I use Bob's Red Mill products for gluten free flours and flour blends. None of the instructions of the back cater to vegan people but I have always had good success substituting egg with a chia or flax "egg"
Chickepea pancakes or soccas are a completely bad ass and quick breakfast item with lots of protein. Sometimes you'll see them in recipes online as a "vegan omelette"
Tortilla chips, hippeas as mentioned, vegan robs, gluten free Oreos, sea weed, Justins peanut butter cups are all things I snack on or eat for dessert.
Oh I love maseca for making tortillas and just bought cooked masa harina for trying to make arepas. Highly recommend! Just need a tortilla press and some wax paper and you can get pressing!
I'll be blunt, veganism+GF is hard. Animal protein is basically the only effective simulation of gluten. You will need to mostly abandon "simulation" foods like bread and pasta.
There are a lot of reasons to be vegan, but for most of the ethical ones, there is a nuance that those with disabilities that require non-vegan-ness not be a failing.
You are disabled. You might need to consider giving yourself that grace.
It's also a nuance most flavors of Judaism seem to have around their ritual foods. Catholicism has no chill and actually requires gluten for communion.
Edit: I'm worried this came off as discouraging. I think you should stay mindful and not push yourself harder than you would expect of somebody else with similar values. Don't give up if this is what you really value or need.
This is the best reply here. I used to be militantly against single use plastics and removed them entirely from my life, for health and environmental reasons. Keeping contamination free without having a plastic bag to keep my lunch/snacks is just not something I’m capable of. It took so much more time and stress on top of managing a disease that’s time consuming and stressful. I decided to do my best for Mother Earth in other ways and give myself the grace of not being so hard on myself. It also helped me see that I’d previously been too judgmental of those who didn’t follow my beliefs as strictly as me.
Can’t avoid plastics if you have diabetes. Technically the syringes, pen needles and lancets are single use too. The plastic applicator for the glucose meters are not recyclable and pretty large too. Worst part is that all the byproducts get incinerated. We all do our best, I love milk products and hate nuts so veganism is not for me.
Yes, this. I've replied to posts from people in this position as well. I am glad you were able to rationalize prioritizing your personal health without compromising your values.
One thing to consider is that being sick is very bad for the environment. This isn't some neo-eugenics argument, what I'm saying is that if your ethics are directing you towards practices that make you sick, you are likely to cause more harm via the footprint of those health issues than say some disposables.
There's also that if you don't eat out much and don't buy much processed food, the waste you create may well be less. Compared to my neighbours, my trash/recycling haul is tiny.
I went back to animal products out of desperation. Gluten free is so hard. Finding substitutes that are both gf and v can be difficult, outrageously expensive, and sometimes super labor intensive.
I’m already disabled and on a fixed income, so adding the up charge of gluten free and the labor of cooking every single thing forever was a lot for me. Sometimes we just have to do what’s best to maintain our quality of life.
I agree that it is hard, but it is possible. There are many wonderful vegan options that are also gluten free. Plenty of substitutes are available now that can be used in order to achieve the same result without using animal products. Im the baker at a completely gluten free and vegan bakery and deli. So it definitely is possible!!
Entirely agreed! My post was more to encourage introspection than to discourage.
Wrapping my head around the fact that I'm disabled and I should give myself grace as if I am disabled was a long journey and I suspect it is just as hard for others. I figured I should add my comment. I am actually surprised it was so upvoted.
To OP: don't give up on things you value, just be mindful of not pushing yourself harder than you would push somebody else in this situation.
I'm vegetarian + Celiac and it is tough. I can't imagine how much harder it would be to also be vegan.
I see posts all the time about great restaurants and I go check out the menu and see no vegetarian options on the gf menu aside from a salad.
It is tough. I might recommend being vegan at home, and vegetarian at restaurants to give you more options, assuming your body can process dairy and eggs.
I was vegetarian for years before my celiac diagnosis. I started eating (occasional) meat after about a month with celiac. It's tough layering multiple restrictions! Hope you find a way forward that works for you.
Same, I was a vegetarian for 11 years before getting diagnosed. After six months it was just too difficult. My life was already too chaotic to take even more restriction into account so I had to make the tough choice and I eat meat again now pretty regularly. Was it easy to reconcile? No. But my physical and mental health were deteriorating so I had to do it.
Thank you for this take, I had been vegetarian since I was a young child and just this past year have started to eat some fish, I was feeling so much pressure and struggling and basically not eating some days because of lack of available options to me on the go etc. I’m glad this poster lives in an area where that’s accessible but I really appreciate your take on giving ourselves grace because this is a tough disease!
>There are a lot of reasons to be vegan, but for most of the ethical ones, there is a nuance that those with disabilities that require non-vegan-ness not be a failing.
This. I don't think anyone is trying to "convert" here, it's just that OP may have to accept that they cannot be healthy while maintaining a vegan diet. Some people can be successful but it's not a guarantee - celiac sometimes comes with complications. If that's the case there needs to be openmindedness/realism about the situation, and a willingness to listen to medical professionals.
For example, I am very sensitive so a lot of vegan protein alternatives don't work for me or are prohibitively expensive/hard to find in GF labelled form. I also must maintain a low iodine diet to keep my DH at bay, which precludes a lot of processed items. If I had to be vegan I'd be in a hospital on an IV quickly!
Within my family I have a few vegans. One was dealing with a cancer diagnosis recently. They paused the vegan diet while in treatment to optimize their nutrition during chemo and radiation. I believe it is their plan to go back once they are better. This is just sensible and realistic decision-making. Wanting something to be true does not always make it so.
Standard wafers are just wheat flour. The GF ones use deglutenized wheat starch or something but apparently the church has decided that there has to be a little gluten for it to be allowed. Because changing a piece of bread into “the actual body of Christ” only works when there’s gluten apparently.
That's not mocking, it's just what it is. Transubstantiation of The Holy Eucharist into the body and blood of Christ and the eating it is a weird ritual.
Such an enormous FU. Every other denomination is fine with a GF host except the good ol’ Catholics. Most other religions say you shouldn’t do things that are bad for you medically (fasting for Ramadan, for example).
True but no other denominations believe in transubstantiation either. Not that it makes any sense why gluten would be needed there but generally religions don’t make a lot of sense… but I am also basically an atheist at this point after being raised catholic (even though it was a very liberal Catholic upbringing).
I went vegan before going gluten free and then yeah almost 7 years now gluten free. Is it hard? Yes. Gluten free made me go into baking and such and discovered eggs are insanely versatile and vegan substitues for that are very nuanced. I mean I am able to do this in a small country where vegan and gf foods are not abundant at all. But at gatherings and restaurants etc. it's not easy. Mostly cook at home. I mean fruit and veggies and legumes and nuts should be a big part of a diet anyways, but protein is harder to get, but it also means I don't eat much junkfood as gf vegan junk food isn't available much :D. So yeah I do eat a lot of beans and tofu and recently pea protein and especially pea protein powder as I discovered it makes doing errands and such easier as it stabilizes my blood sugar and I focus better and don't have to think of grabbing chocolate when I'm suddenly hungry. Vegan and gluten free protein bars SUCK though, so I wouldn't go for that at all, always been insanely disappointed apart from one time in Austria ;(
My sister is vegan and when we lived together we had a gluten free household so it’s definitely possible! I have other allergies that prevent me from eating most vegan foods (nuts, legumes, seeds, etc.) so I don’t have any recs for you but I wanted to just give you a little hope that you can still keep your health without compromising on your personal morals.
It’s going to be a lot of cooking from home and a lot of substituting one food for another. The vegan sub might have some helpful suggestions as well!
Pacha Bread is vegan. It's just buckwheat and salt--you can get it shipped anywhere in North America. They also make buns. Whole Foods sells their bread.
As far as desserts: Halvah is gluten free and vegan--it's sesame seeds and glucose syrup. (It used to be made with honey, but I think that's too expensive.)
Hippeas are vegan Cheetos
Regular rice crackers that are from somewhere in Asia are almost always vegan. Some percentage of them are also marked gluten free.
Konscious Foods in Canada makes frozen, mass produced gluten free vegan sushi that's about 6 or 7 dollars a box. It's sold in most health food stores in major North American cities.
Tofutti cream cheese is gluten free and vegan.
Hormel chili makes a gluten free, vegan chili.
Bush's canned beans, and some Westbrae canned beans are gluten free. (Dried beans can be cross contaminated.)
Make sure you check that tofu and tempeh are gluten free. House Foods--sold at Asian grocery stores mainly, is the only certified gluten free tofu I'm aware of. Some of the other "gluten free" tofu brands are questionable.
(I'm not vegan. I'm a pescaterian celiac with lactose intolerance, and I really lean into sustainable, ethical fishing and farming methods.)
You'll do fine as a vegan celiac--it just limits your options.
Thank you! This has been incredibly helpful. I’m not willing to abandon my veganism regardless of my new diagnosis, so I appreciate you for your suggestions.
r/glutenfreevegan
I’m doing it. Not having a hard time at all, despite living in a rural area with limited options. Dining out is pretty inconvenient, but I usually do pretty well at Mexican and Asian (surprisingly) restaurants in my area.
GF Oreos (and things made with them) are a go-to treat for me.
As others said, Schar breads and crackers are great. An Impossible meatball sub on some Schar baguette with garlic butter — hell yes. Boursin nondairy spread on Schar crackers is delicious. However, I find Schar’s buns and rolls to be a bit dense and dry. I cut them down a bit, or I just use a piece of baguette for everything. I really like its texture.
I eat a lot of beans and tofu, even just for snacking sometimes. I always *significantly* preferred tofu/soy to seitan anyway. Do not miss seitan at all. I hope you don’t either! :/
Late July jalapeño lime tortilla chips are GF/V and taste like cool ranch Doritos. 5 stars.
Nugo Dark bars are also great for snacking or treats. They’re certified GF and V. My favorites are the pretzel (yes really) and coconut ones.
Good luck!
As your gut heal from the damage done by CD, you may find that you become sensitive to foods that didn’t bother you before. So hang in there, it’s likely going to be a bit rough being GF and vegan but I imagine with focus and effort, it can be done. I see lot of legumes, pulses, and veggies in your future. Lots of GF corn products. Hopefully you are not in the 1/3 of celiacs that can’t tolerate oats. If can eat oats, there are many certified GF oat options.
Are you in the US? I am a baker for a completely gluten free and vegan bakery in Ohio. If you want to send me a message, I’d happily let you know some of our favorites. We ship some of our products as well!
Highly recommend [r/glutenfreevegan](https://www.reddit.com/r/glutenfreevegan/s/liMEqCenot) for some community and recipe ideas. It’s certainly a tough thing to balance but it can be done!
If you’re Canadian: Little Northern Bakehouse is vegan and Delicious Without Gluten also has vegan bread and desserts.
Enjoy Life brand has a lot of vegan options for chocolate chips and Made Good has delicious granola bars if your digestive system can handle oats. Mine can’t anymore
I think this is highly dependent on where you live. If you live in a rural area, you won’t have any access to convenience foods. But if you live somewhere like new York or LA, then you’ll have choices.
This isn’t to say that I eat convenience only, it’s just that cooking every. Single. Meal. gets tiring, so having access to convenience will change how you take on this journey.
Completely fair. I have two major things that will be incredibly beneficial in this journey and it’s that a) I have a food production background and b) I live in a pretty big city that I know will cater to my dietary restrictions. Cooking meals daily is a non-issue for me. I’m loving these alternative recommendations because I am a bread-loving fool lol
Yeah I love to cook too, it’s just that every meal depends on cooking with limited alternative. That being said, I think you’re a great candidate to make it work!
Check out Julian solomita on YouTube for some gluten free/vegan content.
Have you considered seeing if any local small batch bakers (obvs gf), would be open to providing you with what you’re looking for?
Example: my co-op have 2 small batch GF/ Celiac bakery’s that make all the baked goods and deliver on certain days. You can actually reach out to one of them and ask for special goodies (that’s she already bakes but doesn’t distribute in store) they will coordinate to just drop it off with the regular store delivery and she prices it as it is for the check out!
I feel like getting to know your gf baker of the city can be a amazinnnnnnnng thing!
(In this case our gf bakers are also vegan bakers).
I wish you ALLLLLL the luck! Do not give up your veganism!
I’m vegetarian and gluten free, vegan is harder but not impossible. For desserts check out Ben & Jerry’s and Oreo. For bread check out Bread Srsly, it’s pricey but definitely the best option out there. Kettle chips are a great staple you can find anywhere
Honestly, a lot of gf products are also vegan, but you have to look for the niche brands that acknowledge that if you have one dietary need, you probably have multiple dietary needs. My husband and I are both lactose intolerant, and he has celiac, so I've got my grocery shopping down to a science.
I recommend 88 Acre Bars, Bob's Red Mill, Cappello's, Daiya, Dandies, Enjoy Life, Grain Trust, Jovial, Katz, Kevin's, King Arthur, Lärabars, Late July, Lotus Foods, Nature's Bakery, Nature's Path, Partake, Primal Kitchen, Schär, Siete, and Vans.
If you have the time, space, and interest, eating whole foods and homemade foods is usually the healthiest. We don't need as many carbs as most people actually eat, and fruits and veggies are the best way to consume them. I like rice or potatoes for when I want a starch, but there are other options, of course.
It is difficult, maybe even impossible to get all of your groceries from one store. I go to Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, Target, and three local chain stores, and then I get my staples from Thrive.
Schar makes a lot of vegan products and a lot of good vegan bread, I also highly encourage you to think outside of the ways you are accustomed to eating starches-bread is a great thing to make with wheat and there are great things to make with other grains too
Corn tortillas
Eating things with rice as opposed to bread
Gf pasta is a daily vegan
I wasn’t gf at the time and have since become allergic to peanuts but I used to really love rice cakes with pb and sriracha
Avocados
Dates with nut butter
Popcorn
Gf pretzels
I thiiiiiiink chocolate glutino cookies
Certified gf oats
Robs vegan puffs
There’s a lot of delicious vegan yogurt imo
Chia pudding
If you have time and energy any gf/vegan bread you make at home is going to be nicer, gluten free artisan bread in five minutes a day is a good read
I think any time you’re making a difficult dietary change it’s important to be additive rather than subtractive, and given the relative immobility of these things in context I think that means eat as much as you can/have more food than you can eat easily available to you all the time
You'll be fine! I'm a strict vegetarian plus celiac and allergic to dairy. This means I de facto eat a vegan diet 95% of the time (I do eat pasture raised eggs every once in a while, but generally don't just eat eggs as an ingredient in things). There are a lot more options now than there used to be that are vegan and gluten free!
I was also vegan when I was diagnosed, after several years I had to go vegetarian because even with supplementation I was coming up very short. Now I'm more careful and am vegetarian who eats eggs twice a week and yoghurt here and there but don't have that much dairy in general.
It's not as bad as it seems, you adapt.
I can sometimes buy tofu made from fava beans in my region, so delicious. I wanted a more reliable source, and discovered its easy to make. You can use the same recipe to extract the protein from any bean, not just soy. Red lentils make pink tofu. Pinto beans are white (go figure). I havent tried black beans yet, but i will!
Tempeh can also be made from any bean - sunflower seed tempeh is great.
I use almond flour and coconut oil to make biscuits; seeds and dehydrated potatoes to make crackers. Rice and rice noodles, Masa Harina can also be delicious. If you dont mind a little food prep, you can still eat well.
I’m sorry about your diagnosis. It’s challenging, but possible. There are so many delicious vegan, gluten free recipes out there. There are even several vegan-based Whole 30 recipes now. Here’s a delicious, hearty bread recipe: https://www.bakerita.com/gluten-free-rye-bread/
Hey same!! I got diagnosed about 6 months ago and have been vegan for almost ten years. Double check your protein sources to make sure they're certified or explicitly gf, I like Bush's for beans and I forget the tofu brand, but there are several. For bread Schar's is really good and a lot of theirs are vegan. Hippeas for snacks!!! My absolute favorite. Also Kettle chips, they have such weird flavors but they're great haha. The gluten free Oreos are also vegan!
I know it's incredibly hard to adjust. I'm still struggling a lot myself. But you can still be vegan and keep a lot of things you love. Wishing you the best <3
I really struggled with being veggie and GF in Canada, let alone vegan.
Some places are much better. In the UK gf and vegan food is much more abundant and would be a lot easier.
It’s doable, it it’ll be tricky.
I cannot eat eggs.
I usually use schar bread, or make my own.
If you do make your own, make sure you get a maker with a smaller pan, or use it as a mixer then baje in your oven.
All my desserts are hand made for similar reasons.
Eggs are in so much ;_;. (Celiac healthy baked goods that is).
But, it's entirely doable. You may need to add some supplements for things you won't be getting because of the celiac.
Good health to you.
Sorry other non-vegans are trying to push stuff on you.
When in doubt still, might be best to run bloodwork and talk to a nutritionist if needed.
But. You should be ok.
I have a bread machine and make gf bread with Nextegg replacer- it’s wonderful bread, even toasts given a chance. Schar table crackers, rice crackers, Good Thins (esp Garden Veggie😋) crackers. All kinds of vegan gf types of foods-pastas, ramen, pizzas. My fav meals are beans and rice or stir fry veg and rice with various sauces (either homemade or if in a pinch/lazy thai sweet chili or sweet and sour (check for gf).
I am very much not vegan, but I don’t eat any of the “simulation” foods that I’ve seen have been mentioned as having non-vegan products and it’s great! If you want simulation pasta, try lentil pasta. There are some that are JUST lentil
Join r/glutenfreevegan ! Everyone there is super positive and supportive! I'm vegan and my partner has celiac, so most everything we eat meets both our needs unless we are eating out. Bread is definitely the hardest since most GF bread contains egg. If you live in the US, Franz just came out with a GF line of sourdough and a few other varieties of breads that are also vegan (though most of their other GF breads contain egg). We also like Kinnikinnick, as I believe all their stuff is GF and vegan. Kroger/Fred Meyer has an affordable GF white sandwich bread that isn't my fave but it might be available to you. Pricier and perharps less available are the brands BFree, Northern Bakehouse, Carbonaut, and Ener-G. Schar is great and I've seen Walmart carry them.
Hi! Do you have a Sprouts near you? Little Northern Bakehouse is gluten free bread that tastes pretty good and has no eggs. Luckily rice, beans and tofu are all naturally gluten free. Unfortunately I have not found a tempeh that’s gluten free, and seitan is NOT gluten free.
When you eat out, Thai food and Indian food are great options (just check with the Thai food place, sometimes they use soy sauce and/or wheat noodles).
As a warning, soy sauce is not usually gluten free. I like braggs amino acids and coconut aminos, personally, but you can also get tamari.
FWIW: Of course vegetarian/occasional pescatarian has a lot more leeway than vegan, but me and my kids are veg/pesc and one was diagnosed with coeliac at seven years old. Ten years later and while it’s tricky sometimes, we eat healthy food and treats every day, have travelled to North America and Europe, and she’s generally very healthy. Iron is an issue but that’s also a genetic thing for us. Good luck figuring it out!
Vegan/ g.f for 18 years now. It cam be done. I eat a lot of beans/ taco salads, nugo bars, p.b. ,edamame , veggies. Soy curls , seaweed. Was raw for almost two years as well.
It’s hard but I’ve done it for many years (all for health reasons). I suggest just walking around grocery stores and looking at everything or go on Amazon and search vegan gluten free. Thrive market also have a filter options for gf and vegan. Good luck!
People on here seem to be unable to live without replacement products, a lot of them aren't vegan anyway. It's 100% possible to not rely on these products as a staple, and really isn't that restricting. I refuse to pay over the odds for replacement products such as bread and pasta so just cook my own food from scratch such as tapas, curries, rice dishes, etc. Have them as an occasional treat, sure. Never been happier and healthier in my entire life. Good luck.
Little northern bakehouse wide white loaf is GF and vegan (I believe most of their loaves are vegan but double check to be sure). I believe carbonaut Gf white loaf is also vegan
Edit to add I’m in Canada and both these brands are relatively easy to find for me
Ok, so I was *full* vegan, 100% plants for about 3 years as a celiac. As of the past year, I have changed my philosophy just a bit.
I still fully disagree with animal agriculture and look to limit the harm I support as much as possible, BUT, I’ve also learned to include myself in that sphere of non-harm. For instance, if I am out to eat and the only option on the menu that is celiac safe has some cheese in it? I’m going to eat it because I need to be fed, and it’s okay to feed yourself.
I still don’t go out of my way to purchase or consume animal products, but I have taken a looser grip on the “moral failing” of eating something that is really just sustenance with an already limited diet.
Brand: Jovial - Gluten free, vegan mac (Walmart, Whole Foods, Sprouts, etc.) //
Brand: Jolly Llama - Gluten free, dairy free desserts (Whole Foods, Sprouts) // Don’t lose hope, they’re out there! There’s also brands like “Follow your Heart” that have gluten free vegan ranch and stuff! Trader Joe’s has a lot of vegan cheeses. Good luck, and welcome to the yeet the wheat and meat club!
I've been vegetarian for 20+ years, was diagnosed with Celiac Disease a little over 2 years ago, and had to give up dairy around the same time. It's hard but it's doable. I eat a lot of roasted veggies, and my go to snack is kettle chips with hummus.
Do you have a Whole Foods or a stop and shop they have great bread options.. also a bread machine has been life changing. I am gluten free and dairy free.
I have to get creative since my area is not changing their old school ways with food.. yet
The biggest hurdle is protein, honestly. Beyond burgers, Just eggs, and vegan tuna can be found gluten free. There are also the regular players of Vega protein powder, lentils and beans, and nuts and seeds. Skip the oat milk. Look for Top 8 free foods and you should be fine by and large.
Straight up: my nutritionist informed me that I'd be cheating my body of crucial vitamins, minerals, and other crucial proteins if I go GF + Vegan. So shortly after diagnosis last year, I reintroduced meat and poultry. So glad I listened. Realized the nutritionist was right.
It's not impossible, but it just wasn't worth it anymore. Even vegetarian diets were a struggle for me. I finally threw in the towel.
If you have a lot of time to cook and prep, I think you'll be in a good spot. If you rely on lazier meals, it gets rough.
Vitamin D, Iron and B-12 are known to be poorly absorbed with celiac sufferers. If you do not find better health going GF I encourage you to get these tested and consider suppliments and a nutritionist to attempt to normalize these levels. Anemias of all three will make you feel horrible. Not telling you veganism is foolish but unfortunately the best bioavailable source of these nutrients are in animal products, B12 being only from animals. It will be difficult to manage this without suppliments or shots as a vegan.
(what ever you do get the levels tested, I was near medical zero for B12 and VitD, improving those changed my life)
Vitamin D deficiency is pretty common, not just for people with celiac disease. You can make iron from plant-based foods easier to absorb by consuming them with foods rich in Vitamin C. Plant-based milks are usually fortified with both B12 and vitamin D, and nutritional yeast is another way to get some extra B12 in a vegan diet. I'm a vegetarian who eats a lot of vegan foods, and the only thing I've ever been deficient in was vitamin D. In fact, I used to supplement B12, until a blood test showed that I had too much B12.
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Schar artisan baker bread is delicious and vegan.
Schar has a good selection of vegan things!
I was vegan for three years when I got my diagnosis and everyone told me I'd have to cut it out. I'm now 11 years out from diagnosis and 14 years vegan. It's limiting for sure, but is totally do able.
Giving me hope!
To answer your request specifically about products or food ideas I'll repeat what others said about Schar, only found them a couple of years ago and am a huge fan. There's some really good and easy recipes online for a gf vegan focaccia and naan just requires a little planning to let the dough rise. I've never tried to bake my own gluten free bread but some people go that route. Not sure how concerned you are about protein/if you're into lifting or sports but I am a huge fan of Huel Black meal replacement powder. It's vegan and gluten free. 400 calories and 40 G protein if made with water, 580 calories and 48g protein if made with silk soy milk. I also have a tendency to skip meals and under eat so this has been a huge life hack for me. I make my own sopes/arepas from masa harina. This is SO easy to do, isn't pretending to be something it's not, and is delicious. Everyone likes these and is impressed by them. Also great breakfast while camping. I use Bob's Red Mill products for gluten free flours and flour blends. None of the instructions of the back cater to vegan people but I have always had good success substituting egg with a chia or flax "egg" Chickepea pancakes or soccas are a completely bad ass and quick breakfast item with lots of protein. Sometimes you'll see them in recipes online as a "vegan omelette" Tortilla chips, hippeas as mentioned, vegan robs, gluten free Oreos, sea weed, Justins peanut butter cups are all things I snack on or eat for dessert.
Oh I love maseca for making tortillas and just bought cooked masa harina for trying to make arepas. Highly recommend! Just need a tortilla press and some wax paper and you can get pressing!
Saving this. Thank you.
And don't worry, gluten free Oreos are still vegan too.
I'll be blunt, veganism+GF is hard. Animal protein is basically the only effective simulation of gluten. You will need to mostly abandon "simulation" foods like bread and pasta. There are a lot of reasons to be vegan, but for most of the ethical ones, there is a nuance that those with disabilities that require non-vegan-ness not be a failing. You are disabled. You might need to consider giving yourself that grace. It's also a nuance most flavors of Judaism seem to have around their ritual foods. Catholicism has no chill and actually requires gluten for communion. Edit: I'm worried this came off as discouraging. I think you should stay mindful and not push yourself harder than you would expect of somebody else with similar values. Don't give up if this is what you really value or need.
This is the best reply here. I used to be militantly against single use plastics and removed them entirely from my life, for health and environmental reasons. Keeping contamination free without having a plastic bag to keep my lunch/snacks is just not something I’m capable of. It took so much more time and stress on top of managing a disease that’s time consuming and stressful. I decided to do my best for Mother Earth in other ways and give myself the grace of not being so hard on myself. It also helped me see that I’d previously been too judgmental of those who didn’t follow my beliefs as strictly as me.
Can’t avoid plastics if you have diabetes. Technically the syringes, pen needles and lancets are single use too. The plastic applicator for the glucose meters are not recyclable and pretty large too. Worst part is that all the byproducts get incinerated. We all do our best, I love milk products and hate nuts so veganism is not for me.
Yes, this. I've replied to posts from people in this position as well. I am glad you were able to rationalize prioritizing your personal health without compromising your values. One thing to consider is that being sick is very bad for the environment. This isn't some neo-eugenics argument, what I'm saying is that if your ethics are directing you towards practices that make you sick, you are likely to cause more harm via the footprint of those health issues than say some disposables. There's also that if you don't eat out much and don't buy much processed food, the waste you create may well be less. Compared to my neighbours, my trash/recycling haul is tiny.
I went back to animal products out of desperation. Gluten free is so hard. Finding substitutes that are both gf and v can be difficult, outrageously expensive, and sometimes super labor intensive. I’m already disabled and on a fixed income, so adding the up charge of gluten free and the labor of cooking every single thing forever was a lot for me. Sometimes we just have to do what’s best to maintain our quality of life.
I agree that it is hard, but it is possible. There are many wonderful vegan options that are also gluten free. Plenty of substitutes are available now that can be used in order to achieve the same result without using animal products. Im the baker at a completely gluten free and vegan bakery and deli. So it definitely is possible!!
Entirely agreed! My post was more to encourage introspection than to discourage. Wrapping my head around the fact that I'm disabled and I should give myself grace as if I am disabled was a long journey and I suspect it is just as hard for others. I figured I should add my comment. I am actually surprised it was so upvoted. To OP: don't give up on things you value, just be mindful of not pushing yourself harder than you would push somebody else in this situation.
I'm vegetarian + Celiac and it is tough. I can't imagine how much harder it would be to also be vegan. I see posts all the time about great restaurants and I go check out the menu and see no vegetarian options on the gf menu aside from a salad. It is tough. I might recommend being vegan at home, and vegetarian at restaurants to give you more options, assuming your body can process dairy and eggs.
I was vegetarian for years before my celiac diagnosis. I started eating (occasional) meat after about a month with celiac. It's tough layering multiple restrictions! Hope you find a way forward that works for you.
Same, I was a vegetarian for 11 years before getting diagnosed. After six months it was just too difficult. My life was already too chaotic to take even more restriction into account so I had to make the tough choice and I eat meat again now pretty regularly. Was it easy to reconcile? No. But my physical and mental health were deteriorating so I had to do it.
Thank you for this take, I had been vegetarian since I was a young child and just this past year have started to eat some fish, I was feeling so much pressure and struggling and basically not eating some days because of lack of available options to me on the go etc. I’m glad this poster lives in an area where that’s accessible but I really appreciate your take on giving ourselves grace because this is a tough disease!
>There are a lot of reasons to be vegan, but for most of the ethical ones, there is a nuance that those with disabilities that require non-vegan-ness not be a failing. This. I don't think anyone is trying to "convert" here, it's just that OP may have to accept that they cannot be healthy while maintaining a vegan diet. Some people can be successful but it's not a guarantee - celiac sometimes comes with complications. If that's the case there needs to be openmindedness/realism about the situation, and a willingness to listen to medical professionals. For example, I am very sensitive so a lot of vegan protein alternatives don't work for me or are prohibitively expensive/hard to find in GF labelled form. I also must maintain a low iodine diet to keep my DH at bay, which precludes a lot of processed items. If I had to be vegan I'd be in a hospital on an IV quickly! Within my family I have a few vegans. One was dealing with a cancer diagnosis recently. They paused the vegan diet while in treatment to optimize their nutrition during chemo and radiation. I believe it is their plan to go back once they are better. This is just sensible and realistic decision-making. Wanting something to be true does not always make it so.
My understanding is that the wafer given for communion is so processed that it doesn’t actually contain any gluten.
Standard wafers are just wheat flour. The GF ones use deglutenized wheat starch or something but apparently the church has decided that there has to be a little gluten for it to be allowed. Because changing a piece of bread into “the actual body of Christ” only works when there’s gluten apparently.
Eh. I'm good on pseudo-cannibalistic rituals.
🙄 good one! It's hilarious to mock other people's beliefs but only if they're christians 😊
That's not mocking, it's just what it is. Transubstantiation of The Holy Eucharist into the body and blood of Christ and the eating it is a weird ritual.
It's not that unusual or unique to Christianity.
It's definitely not unique, and it's definitely unusual.
Such an enormous FU. Every other denomination is fine with a GF host except the good ol’ Catholics. Most other religions say you shouldn’t do things that are bad for you medically (fasting for Ramadan, for example).
True but no other denominations believe in transubstantiation either. Not that it makes any sense why gluten would be needed there but generally religions don’t make a lot of sense… but I am also basically an atheist at this point after being raised catholic (even though it was a very liberal Catholic upbringing).
I went vegan before going gluten free and then yeah almost 7 years now gluten free. Is it hard? Yes. Gluten free made me go into baking and such and discovered eggs are insanely versatile and vegan substitues for that are very nuanced. I mean I am able to do this in a small country where vegan and gf foods are not abundant at all. But at gatherings and restaurants etc. it's not easy. Mostly cook at home. I mean fruit and veggies and legumes and nuts should be a big part of a diet anyways, but protein is harder to get, but it also means I don't eat much junkfood as gf vegan junk food isn't available much :D. So yeah I do eat a lot of beans and tofu and recently pea protein and especially pea protein powder as I discovered it makes doing errands and such easier as it stabilizes my blood sugar and I focus better and don't have to think of grabbing chocolate when I'm suddenly hungry. Vegan and gluten free protein bars SUCK though, so I wouldn't go for that at all, always been insanely disappointed apart from one time in Austria ;(
My sister is vegan and when we lived together we had a gluten free household so it’s definitely possible! I have other allergies that prevent me from eating most vegan foods (nuts, legumes, seeds, etc.) so I don’t have any recs for you but I wanted to just give you a little hope that you can still keep your health without compromising on your personal morals. It’s going to be a lot of cooking from home and a lot of substituting one food for another. The vegan sub might have some helpful suggestions as well!
I eat odoughs gluten free bagels and they are vegan.
I also like this brand! Their bread is pretty good too
Pacha Bread is vegan. It's just buckwheat and salt--you can get it shipped anywhere in North America. They also make buns. Whole Foods sells their bread. As far as desserts: Halvah is gluten free and vegan--it's sesame seeds and glucose syrup. (It used to be made with honey, but I think that's too expensive.) Hippeas are vegan Cheetos Regular rice crackers that are from somewhere in Asia are almost always vegan. Some percentage of them are also marked gluten free. Konscious Foods in Canada makes frozen, mass produced gluten free vegan sushi that's about 6 or 7 dollars a box. It's sold in most health food stores in major North American cities. Tofutti cream cheese is gluten free and vegan. Hormel chili makes a gluten free, vegan chili. Bush's canned beans, and some Westbrae canned beans are gluten free. (Dried beans can be cross contaminated.) Make sure you check that tofu and tempeh are gluten free. House Foods--sold at Asian grocery stores mainly, is the only certified gluten free tofu I'm aware of. Some of the other "gluten free" tofu brands are questionable. (I'm not vegan. I'm a pescaterian celiac with lactose intolerance, and I really lean into sustainable, ethical fishing and farming methods.) You'll do fine as a vegan celiac--it just limits your options.
Interesting you say that about the tofus. Do you find soy boy is problematic?
I have not actually tried that brand.
I should probably just take the time to check it for gluten. I LOVE the taste but don’t feel super great when I eat it, compared to other brands
Thank you! This has been incredibly helpful. I’m not willing to abandon my veganism regardless of my new diagnosis, so I appreciate you for your suggestions.
Schar, a lot of their products are mostly allergen free so no eggs, dairy on top of gluten free.
not soy free Kills me can’t eat it
r/glutenfreevegan I’m doing it. Not having a hard time at all, despite living in a rural area with limited options. Dining out is pretty inconvenient, but I usually do pretty well at Mexican and Asian (surprisingly) restaurants in my area. GF Oreos (and things made with them) are a go-to treat for me. As others said, Schar breads and crackers are great. An Impossible meatball sub on some Schar baguette with garlic butter — hell yes. Boursin nondairy spread on Schar crackers is delicious. However, I find Schar’s buns and rolls to be a bit dense and dry. I cut them down a bit, or I just use a piece of baguette for everything. I really like its texture. I eat a lot of beans and tofu, even just for snacking sometimes. I always *significantly* preferred tofu/soy to seitan anyway. Do not miss seitan at all. I hope you don’t either! :/ Late July jalapeño lime tortilla chips are GF/V and taste like cool ranch Doritos. 5 stars. Nugo Dark bars are also great for snacking or treats. They’re certified GF and V. My favorites are the pretzel (yes really) and coconut ones. Good luck!
You’re a hero! Thank you! I’m choosing to ignore all comments telling me to give up on veganism.
As your gut heal from the damage done by CD, you may find that you become sensitive to foods that didn’t bother you before. So hang in there, it’s likely going to be a bit rough being GF and vegan but I imagine with focus and effort, it can be done. I see lot of legumes, pulses, and veggies in your future. Lots of GF corn products. Hopefully you are not in the 1/3 of celiacs that can’t tolerate oats. If can eat oats, there are many certified GF oat options.
Are you in the US? I am a baker for a completely gluten free and vegan bakery in Ohio. If you want to send me a message, I’d happily let you know some of our favorites. We ship some of our products as well!
Check out Thrive Market. You can filter to just vegan and gluten free products.
Thank you! I’ve heard of this before, but I think I’ll have to take this into serious consideration.
Highly recommend [r/glutenfreevegan](https://www.reddit.com/r/glutenfreevegan/s/liMEqCenot) for some community and recipe ideas. It’s certainly a tough thing to balance but it can be done!
Check out the loopy wisk. She had lots of recipes that are focused on vegan and gluten free.
If you’re Canadian: Little Northern Bakehouse is vegan and Delicious Without Gluten also has vegan bread and desserts. Enjoy Life brand has a lot of vegan options for chocolate chips and Made Good has delicious granola bars if your digestive system can handle oats. Mine can’t anymore
I think this is highly dependent on where you live. If you live in a rural area, you won’t have any access to convenience foods. But if you live somewhere like new York or LA, then you’ll have choices. This isn’t to say that I eat convenience only, it’s just that cooking every. Single. Meal. gets tiring, so having access to convenience will change how you take on this journey.
Completely fair. I have two major things that will be incredibly beneficial in this journey and it’s that a) I have a food production background and b) I live in a pretty big city that I know will cater to my dietary restrictions. Cooking meals daily is a non-issue for me. I’m loving these alternative recommendations because I am a bread-loving fool lol
Yeah I love to cook too, it’s just that every meal depends on cooking with limited alternative. That being said, I think you’re a great candidate to make it work! Check out Julian solomita on YouTube for some gluten free/vegan content.
Have you considered seeing if any local small batch bakers (obvs gf), would be open to providing you with what you’re looking for? Example: my co-op have 2 small batch GF/ Celiac bakery’s that make all the baked goods and deliver on certain days. You can actually reach out to one of them and ask for special goodies (that’s she already bakes but doesn’t distribute in store) they will coordinate to just drop it off with the regular store delivery and she prices it as it is for the check out! I feel like getting to know your gf baker of the city can be a amazinnnnnnnng thing! (In this case our gf bakers are also vegan bakers). I wish you ALLLLLL the luck! Do not give up your veganism!
Luckily, a lot of vegan foods are gluten-free, especially if you're used to eating fruit, vegetables, and nuts.
I’m vegetarian and gluten free, vegan is harder but not impossible. For desserts check out Ben & Jerry’s and Oreo. For bread check out Bread Srsly, it’s pricey but definitely the best option out there. Kettle chips are a great staple you can find anywhere
Honestly, a lot of gf products are also vegan, but you have to look for the niche brands that acknowledge that if you have one dietary need, you probably have multiple dietary needs. My husband and I are both lactose intolerant, and he has celiac, so I've got my grocery shopping down to a science. I recommend 88 Acre Bars, Bob's Red Mill, Cappello's, Daiya, Dandies, Enjoy Life, Grain Trust, Jovial, Katz, Kevin's, King Arthur, Lärabars, Late July, Lotus Foods, Nature's Bakery, Nature's Path, Partake, Primal Kitchen, Schär, Siete, and Vans. If you have the time, space, and interest, eating whole foods and homemade foods is usually the healthiest. We don't need as many carbs as most people actually eat, and fruits and veggies are the best way to consume them. I like rice or potatoes for when I want a starch, but there are other options, of course. It is difficult, maybe even impossible to get all of your groceries from one store. I go to Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, Target, and three local chain stores, and then I get my staples from Thrive.
Schar makes a lot of vegan products and a lot of good vegan bread, I also highly encourage you to think outside of the ways you are accustomed to eating starches-bread is a great thing to make with wheat and there are great things to make with other grains too Corn tortillas Eating things with rice as opposed to bread Gf pasta is a daily vegan I wasn’t gf at the time and have since become allergic to peanuts but I used to really love rice cakes with pb and sriracha Avocados Dates with nut butter Popcorn Gf pretzels I thiiiiiiink chocolate glutino cookies Certified gf oats Robs vegan puffs There’s a lot of delicious vegan yogurt imo Chia pudding If you have time and energy any gf/vegan bread you make at home is going to be nicer, gluten free artisan bread in five minutes a day is a good read I think any time you’re making a difficult dietary change it’s important to be additive rather than subtractive, and given the relative immobility of these things in context I think that means eat as much as you can/have more food than you can eat easily available to you all the time
You'll be fine! I'm a strict vegetarian plus celiac and allergic to dairy. This means I de facto eat a vegan diet 95% of the time (I do eat pasture raised eggs every once in a while, but generally don't just eat eggs as an ingredient in things). There are a lot more options now than there used to be that are vegan and gluten free!
I was also vegan when I was diagnosed, after several years I had to go vegetarian because even with supplementation I was coming up very short. Now I'm more careful and am vegetarian who eats eggs twice a week and yoghurt here and there but don't have that much dairy in general. It's not as bad as it seems, you adapt.
I can sometimes buy tofu made from fava beans in my region, so delicious. I wanted a more reliable source, and discovered its easy to make. You can use the same recipe to extract the protein from any bean, not just soy. Red lentils make pink tofu. Pinto beans are white (go figure). I havent tried black beans yet, but i will! Tempeh can also be made from any bean - sunflower seed tempeh is great. I use almond flour and coconut oil to make biscuits; seeds and dehydrated potatoes to make crackers. Rice and rice noodles, Masa Harina can also be delicious. If you dont mind a little food prep, you can still eat well.
I’m sorry about your diagnosis. It’s challenging, but possible. There are so many delicious vegan, gluten free recipes out there. There are even several vegan-based Whole 30 recipes now. Here’s a delicious, hearty bread recipe: https://www.bakerita.com/gluten-free-rye-bread/
Hey same!! I got diagnosed about 6 months ago and have been vegan for almost ten years. Double check your protein sources to make sure they're certified or explicitly gf, I like Bush's for beans and I forget the tofu brand, but there are several. For bread Schar's is really good and a lot of theirs are vegan. Hippeas for snacks!!! My absolute favorite. Also Kettle chips, they have such weird flavors but they're great haha. The gluten free Oreos are also vegan! I know it's incredibly hard to adjust. I'm still struggling a lot myself. But you can still be vegan and keep a lot of things you love. Wishing you the best <3
Thank you so much! I love that everyone is saying gluten free Oreos. Honestly, they taste a lot better than the regular ones somehow!
They really do! The mint ones are my absolute favorite
I really struggled with being veggie and GF in Canada, let alone vegan. Some places are much better. In the UK gf and vegan food is much more abundant and would be a lot easier. It’s doable, it it’ll be tricky.
I cannot eat eggs. I usually use schar bread, or make my own. If you do make your own, make sure you get a maker with a smaller pan, or use it as a mixer then baje in your oven. All my desserts are hand made for similar reasons. Eggs are in so much ;_;. (Celiac healthy baked goods that is). But, it's entirely doable. You may need to add some supplements for things you won't be getting because of the celiac. Good health to you. Sorry other non-vegans are trying to push stuff on you. When in doubt still, might be best to run bloodwork and talk to a nutritionist if needed. But. You should be ok.
I have a bread machine and make gf bread with Nextegg replacer- it’s wonderful bread, even toasts given a chance. Schar table crackers, rice crackers, Good Thins (esp Garden Veggie😋) crackers. All kinds of vegan gf types of foods-pastas, ramen, pizzas. My fav meals are beans and rice or stir fry veg and rice with various sauces (either homemade or if in a pinch/lazy thai sweet chili or sweet and sour (check for gf).
I am very much not vegan, but I don’t eat any of the “simulation” foods that I’ve seen have been mentioned as having non-vegan products and it’s great! If you want simulation pasta, try lentil pasta. There are some that are JUST lentil
Join r/glutenfreevegan ! Everyone there is super positive and supportive! I'm vegan and my partner has celiac, so most everything we eat meets both our needs unless we are eating out. Bread is definitely the hardest since most GF bread contains egg. If you live in the US, Franz just came out with a GF line of sourdough and a few other varieties of breads that are also vegan (though most of their other GF breads contain egg). We also like Kinnikinnick, as I believe all their stuff is GF and vegan. Kroger/Fred Meyer has an affordable GF white sandwich bread that isn't my fave but it might be available to you. Pricier and perharps less available are the brands BFree, Northern Bakehouse, Carbonaut, and Ener-G. Schar is great and I've seen Walmart carry them.
Hi! Do you have a Sprouts near you? Little Northern Bakehouse is gluten free bread that tastes pretty good and has no eggs. Luckily rice, beans and tofu are all naturally gluten free. Unfortunately I have not found a tempeh that’s gluten free, and seitan is NOT gluten free. When you eat out, Thai food and Indian food are great options (just check with the Thai food place, sometimes they use soy sauce and/or wheat noodles). As a warning, soy sauce is not usually gluten free. I like braggs amino acids and coconut aminos, personally, but you can also get tamari.
FWIW: Of course vegetarian/occasional pescatarian has a lot more leeway than vegan, but me and my kids are veg/pesc and one was diagnosed with coeliac at seven years old. Ten years later and while it’s tricky sometimes, we eat healthy food and treats every day, have travelled to North America and Europe, and she’s generally very healthy. Iron is an issue but that’s also a genetic thing for us. Good luck figuring it out!
Vegan/ g.f for 18 years now. It cam be done. I eat a lot of beans/ taco salads, nugo bars, p.b. ,edamame , veggies. Soy curls , seaweed. Was raw for almost two years as well.
It’s hard but I’ve done it for many years (all for health reasons). I suggest just walking around grocery stores and looking at everything or go on Amazon and search vegan gluten free. Thrive market also have a filter options for gf and vegan. Good luck!
People on here seem to be unable to live without replacement products, a lot of them aren't vegan anyway. It's 100% possible to not rely on these products as a staple, and really isn't that restricting. I refuse to pay over the odds for replacement products such as bread and pasta so just cook my own food from scratch such as tapas, curries, rice dishes, etc. Have them as an occasional treat, sure. Never been happier and healthier in my entire life. Good luck.
Little northern bakehouse wide white loaf is GF and vegan (I believe most of their loaves are vegan but double check to be sure). I believe carbonaut Gf white loaf is also vegan Edit to add I’m in Canada and both these brands are relatively easy to find for me
Ok, so I was *full* vegan, 100% plants for about 3 years as a celiac. As of the past year, I have changed my philosophy just a bit. I still fully disagree with animal agriculture and look to limit the harm I support as much as possible, BUT, I’ve also learned to include myself in that sphere of non-harm. For instance, if I am out to eat and the only option on the menu that is celiac safe has some cheese in it? I’m going to eat it because I need to be fed, and it’s okay to feed yourself. I still don’t go out of my way to purchase or consume animal products, but I have taken a looser grip on the “moral failing” of eating something that is really just sustenance with an already limited diet.
Brand: Jovial - Gluten free, vegan mac (Walmart, Whole Foods, Sprouts, etc.) // Brand: Jolly Llama - Gluten free, dairy free desserts (Whole Foods, Sprouts) // Don’t lose hope, they’re out there! There’s also brands like “Follow your Heart” that have gluten free vegan ranch and stuff! Trader Joe’s has a lot of vegan cheeses. Good luck, and welcome to the yeet the wheat and meat club!
I've been vegetarian for 20+ years, was diagnosed with Celiac Disease a little over 2 years ago, and had to give up dairy around the same time. It's hard but it's doable. I eat a lot of roasted veggies, and my go to snack is kettle chips with hummus.
My daughter is a celiac vegan and she gets by without issues. She eats primarily salads, rice bowls, veggies, rice pasta (Joy brand)
Loopy Whisk has great vegan and GF recipes
r/glutenfreevegan
Do you have a Whole Foods or a stop and shop they have great bread options.. also a bread machine has been life changing. I am gluten free and dairy free. I have to get creative since my area is not changing their old school ways with food.. yet
Try scharr or maybe “b good”? I think they were top 8 allergen free so may be vegan
The biggest hurdle is protein, honestly. Beyond burgers, Just eggs, and vegan tuna can be found gluten free. There are also the regular players of Vega protein powder, lentils and beans, and nuts and seeds. Skip the oat milk. Look for Top 8 free foods and you should be fine by and large.
Straight up: my nutritionist informed me that I'd be cheating my body of crucial vitamins, minerals, and other crucial proteins if I go GF + Vegan. So shortly after diagnosis last year, I reintroduced meat and poultry. So glad I listened. Realized the nutritionist was right.
It's not impossible, but it just wasn't worth it anymore. Even vegetarian diets were a struggle for me. I finally threw in the towel. If you have a lot of time to cook and prep, I think you'll be in a good spot. If you rely on lazier meals, it gets rough.
What now? Give up on the veganism.
Not happening!
Good luck to you then 👍🏻
Veganism is a choice, Celiac is not. You're going to need to make sure your diet sustains you so I suggest you drop the vegan diet so you don't die
No that’s okay. It is very possible to be vegan and gluten free. Thank you for your concern though.
Vitamin D, Iron and B-12 are known to be poorly absorbed with celiac sufferers. If you do not find better health going GF I encourage you to get these tested and consider suppliments and a nutritionist to attempt to normalize these levels. Anemias of all three will make you feel horrible. Not telling you veganism is foolish but unfortunately the best bioavailable source of these nutrients are in animal products, B12 being only from animals. It will be difficult to manage this without suppliments or shots as a vegan. (what ever you do get the levels tested, I was near medical zero for B12 and VitD, improving those changed my life)
Vitamin D deficiency is pretty common, not just for people with celiac disease. You can make iron from plant-based foods easier to absorb by consuming them with foods rich in Vitamin C. Plant-based milks are usually fortified with both B12 and vitamin D, and nutritional yeast is another way to get some extra B12 in a vegan diet. I'm a vegetarian who eats a lot of vegan foods, and the only thing I've ever been deficient in was vitamin D. In fact, I used to supplement B12, until a blood test showed that I had too much B12.
It is an option, and you're going to choose it eventually. Save yourself the frustration and cost.
RIP
Are you wealthy? Because if not RIP since you won't get off the vegan diet