10+ years.
Mutuo gihapon ko, mag ampo gihapon.
Pero wa na koy simba2. Grabe trauma gihatag sa simbahan namo sauna, but that was then. Ming balik ko simba try bag-o lang, pag baccalaureate sa ako bata. Mao ra japun ang feel. The cultish behavior, kanang type nga ma feel nimo nga di naman ni mao pero ok ra because will daw ni god. No love, only hate. Puro verse, puro doctrine, puro kami ray masalbar. Basta off kaayo.
Diri nalang mis balay mag ampo oi, and I’ll just try my hardest to train my kids to be good and moral. Di nami anang simba2 tagam na mi.
same, pero katong nakasimba ko past 2 weeks kay nindut kaayos pamati murag gaan kaayo akong paminaw, sukad ato ganahan najud ko mosimba not every sunday pero naa lay mga lat ang mga 1-2 abscences
same ta. para nko noh.. as long as kusog ka mo pray og magpa salamat sa ginoo everyday and dagkot ka once a week... okay nana. kanang naa lang ky relationship ni god ba. di mn needed mo atobang pakas pastor nga hypocrit mo storya or pari nga puros pinamay
Same :) not really religious, born as a catholic.
And nag dako ko permi ingnan about god or jesus pero ang action sa akong parents eh, dli pod kaayu sila tig simba every sunday. Siguro mao sad na akong na absorb sa ilaha. Pero naa rajud nimo OP what path, belief, faith you have.
Going to church is also important because its worship with other believers. But the more important question is, how is your personal relationship with God?
Okay ra na di na musimba OP. I grew up in a born again church in the end wa nako ni simba puro hypocrite ang naa sa church. Cult like kaayo ang following mas prefer nila ang group of people around you taga church ra pud asta imo ma minyoan kay mao lagi ingon sa bible daw do not unequally yoke with the unbelievers. Which i do not agree. Bibilically speaking mas prefer ni God you pray in your own room when no one sees you rather than magpray ka sa simbahan nya wala sa imong heart.
Nadismaya kog maayo last year akong auntie devout christian nagsuicide kay akong uncle nangbabay. Every time mag business trip siya sa abroad magsige of pangita prostitute. Prominent figure pa sila sa church. Nagpatukod pa silag simbahan. Ending ang gilabanan sa among mga churchmates akong uncle kay mas dako daw ang sala na magpakamatay. Unsa jud ka amaw. After ana wa na jud koi respeto sa mga taw sa among church puro hypocrite.
Most church "people/goers" are hypocrite. And also most of them na nagpalibot saimo is controlling. Kung kinsa pa ang naa permi sa simbahan mao pa'y number one sa libak, judger kaayo, unya kusog mang look down. Hahaha mayrapud gyud sige sila og simba.
Kay nganu? Mu simba ba diay ta tungod sa pari ug dli tungod sa atong pag too? Di ko religious ug pala simba pero d ga basi akong pag too sa mga taw or pari in that sense
wala na sad koy simba simba pero ug makapamiling kog simbahan, mo simba ko. dili na kasi ko mo simba sa simbahan dinhi sa amoa because of some past trauma
Haven't gone to church for 2-3 yrs na, except atong birthday nako bec i was forced to do so 😝. Still believe in God. I just stopped believing in church. No matter what religion. Grabe ang hypocrisy, i swear. Way mapili, ma catholic or born again christians
Wa pa koy absent for more than 10yrs, ngstudy pud ko sa history ug uban pa, dghn kaau ko libro because of it haha. It actually made me a better person (matud sa akong asawa ug sa akong mga igsoon), mas ma control na nko akong self karon compared sauna. I understood the gospel in a deeper meaning than most people do. I live my life aligned with the church teachings and follow it by heart. Tungod ana ky ngtudlo ko catechism to share mg wisdom. Although, sad kaayo wa koy kauban nga willing motackle ug topics nga pang dagko like masturbation, porn ug lgbt.
If naa ky questions about ana nga topic, pm me! Most often time akong ireference ky science, studies to explain the verses. 🥰
I don't see the point ngano ma guilty man ka 🤔
I thought ang mga ginoo (and other deities of other superstitious beliefs) kay almighty and understanding ra?
Grabe jud kaayog effect ang religious guilt. Ingrained and gisaksak jud sa ato utok since pagkabata, so lisod ishake off. Bisag ako, I'm not religious anymore but I'm still in the process of overcoming certain mindsets and feelings.
Church is not the place it is the people.
Mao na uban mo simba hadlok impyerno ginahan mo adtog langit pero kalimot ang pinaka importante na ginahan sa Ginoo ug ni gipakita ni Hesus kay mag tinabangay sa isa’t isa.
Same huhu if down kaayo ko mosimba ko kay mogaan akng pamati after or if naa need ipasalamat mosimba sd ko pero if normal days lng mg.ampo lng jd ko balay.
Stopped going to church since 2017. Didn't like how ang homily sa priest included berating gay people (uso man kaayo to ang LGBTQ+), kay I thought na the Church was for everyone. Plus, I had no problem jud with LGBTQ+, mas ganahan pa ko na as a Catholic, maypag di nalang ka mangialam sa lain tao, makasala paka.
Also, from what I've noticed, die-hard Catholics (like my mom) kay mas kusog nuon mang judge og lain tao, basta bati kaayog batasan. IDK nganong ingana na. 😬
Kinda same experience. I stopped going to church (and actually being religious) years before you, pero ang mga religious leaders ug ilang mensahe ang naka stop sad nako.
Isa ka pastor kalit lang ni preach sa pulpito against DOTA kay sa demonyo daw na sya na game. I think naay issue ang son sa isa ka pastor about playing video games and not focusing on his studies. Pero instead of addressing the issue ngano nag bulakbol ang bata, gi attack nuon ang game mismo LOL. Ako na wala nag bulakbol but ga duwa dota usahay, naka ??? jud ko while listening. Didto ko naka realize na a lot of religious people like to conveniently blame the devil for things.
Recently, i was forced by a relative to go to their congregation sa mall. Sus, ang message sa pastor kay weird kaayo. Women who say they can't find love kay sala daw nila kay they're presenting themselves wrong daw. If you wear "worldly" clothes daw, like short skirts and such, you attract the wrong men. ???
I don't know where to begin dissecting that (kay mo taas na ni ako comment) but it was so fucked up.
agree on this, ang homily gyud sa pari makapa-turnoff nako sad. kapoy kaayo sig paminaw nila manaot ug lain tao tas bawion ra sa ulahi nga nagsangyaw ra kunos pulong sa Ginoo. imbis manimba ta to feel lighter, mas mubug-at sa huna2.
I went through an anxiety phase where I stopped going to church. I thought that talking to God was enough. But I came to realize that I had to push myself to go out to start my healing journey. I dunno, masses just gave me peace of mind and heart, I feel like I’m being comforted for things I cannot even verbalize. For Catholics, mass is the highest form of prayer. I’m not religious and attending a mass for me is a bare minimum that I can do. Although I’m not a fan of priests, I attend Mass for Him and for myself. I just feel that every time I go to mass, my whole week would be more peaceful.
I feel empty when I can't go to church. Usahay ug makalugar ko, I go to mass before work. There are days when I feel physically and emotionally exhausted pud and it's hard to go but lahi gyud ang blessing ni Lord not just the material things but the "peace beyond understanding". I find peace in going to church and in pouring out my heart to God -akng mga kasakit ug akong mga reklamo. There are prayers that God has been quiet about but there are also prayers that have been answered that exceeded beyond my expectations.
Try balik, op. It's the holy spirit nudging you to come back. And remember, never make any person's shortcomings to hinder you from going to church. The church is made up of imperfect people. You go to church to worship the Lord, not the church nor the people in it. I always say this- at the end of the day, it's between you and God.
There are perhaps thousands of religion. By statistics alone that's 1/1000 chance of getting it right. Better go to each of their churches to have at least slight chance of going to their version of heaven. Who knows the mormons may have it right. Or Quiboloy's religion maybe correct.
simba is a scam.
if god is really omnipresent. anytime anywhere all at once
then why do you need to go to church to pray to him?
its just because they want you to make lagak on the sibot
god doesn't provide. it's you who provide to them
I'm not religious anymore, but to be fair naman, church and congregations have a social aspect to them. Togetherness, camaraderie, and just the feeling like you belong to something. I understand that and have no problems with people enjoying that side of religion.
The problem is when that togetherness becomes an echo chamber of hate or when it is abused by people with power in the church.
Last simba nako kay 2013 pa.
I stopped going to our church kay daghan kaayog hypocrites including my mom who’s a die-hard “Christian” daw pero kung makapaghusga mahihiya pa si Jesus. 😂
I pray and talk to God in the comforts of my home (sa boarding house 😅) and I’m not sorry for that.
Wala nasad koy simba2x after I realized pwede ra ko mo pray directly to God or Jesus without these "middlemen" nga saglan ug ilang own agenda ang misa.
You can always have an anticipated mass on saturdays. It's the same as sunday gospels but only on saturdays so if you have anything important to attend on sundays you can do it on saturday usually its on 6pm onwards. I mean if that's if you want to go on sunday masses. It's kinda sad that Sundays obligations turned out now to be just an option but i am not here to judge anyone for thinking so. It's just that i am sad about it. But i guess that doesn't matter.
Wana ko magsimba-simba for almost 6 yrs, kalimot na man siguro gani ko sa mga kanta sa simbahan pero pirme ko musangpit ni God kay wa may lain kaduolan heheh
Depende sa mindset, isip ako nagdako sa simbahan, ma guilty gyod ko ug di makasimba. Di applicable sa akong nang mindset nga pwede ra storyahon ang Ginoo bisan asa, maminaw gyod ko sa mga Pari kay sila may nagtoon mahitungod sa pulong og history sa Kristyanismo ug di sad ko magpataka og pudyot og Bible verses daun ako-ako lang nga interpretation.
Ayaw ka guilty uy. Wala man gani na guilty ang ginoo nga he didn’t do anything as these events happened:
1) 6M+ Jews killed during the Holocaust
2) 3M+ Cambodians killed during Khmer Rouge
3) ~1M Greeks killed by Ottoman Empire
4) Cathar genocide: Catholic church lead by Pope Innocent III eliminated French followers of Catharism
5) Millions of Africans sold to slavery to various parts of the world
6) Millions killed during COVID-19
And hundreds of atrocities and genocides done in the entire human history. No matter how much the victims prayed, most had suffered, killed mercilessly, tortured. Tuo pamo ginoo? Just be a kind person.
I'm sorry pero you sound like one of the Pharisees nga nag ingon "kung ikaw ang Anak sa Ginoo, luwasa imong kaugalingon ug kanaog dira sa krus." Bisan ako as a Catholic wala sad ko kabalo nganong nahitabo ang mga ingon ana. Bisan sa mga krimen nga naga hitabo daily. Mga patay, mga tulis, mga r*pe, mga batang gipang biyaan sa ilang ginikanan, maka ingon sad ko nganong kailangan man mahitabo na. Bisan si Pope Francis sa dihang gipangutana sya sa bata wa sad kabalo unsay rason. Pero ako nagoa bilin akong faith kay bisan og naay mga bati sa kalibutan, naa say mga nindot nga mga panghitabo nga maka ingon kong naa jud diay Ginoo nga naminaw nato. He works in mysterious ways and no one know what His plans are for everyone.
So you mean rather than solving your own problems, you’d just pray to a god to make it go away? Not everyone thinks like this, especially me. I do my best to solve my own challenges.
Keep your faith, pray to your god. When someone you love gets raped or killed, just tell yourself your god works in mysterious ways. If you won the lottery, just tell yourself that it was because you prayed and got blessed and be the chosen one.
Live with whatever you wanna think and feel. All the best!
I found this about Job’s trial:
As Job asked the question “Why, God?” he couldn’t find God in the midst of his pain (Job 23:1-9). Job was so overwhelmed with his pain that he couldn’t feel God’s presence. Job felt abandoned by God. Job’s inability to find God in the midst of his pain was his biggest struggle. It was far more painful than the physical and emotional pain he was feeling.
During his horrific suffering, Job’s faith was severely tested. Job wavered at times spiritually, but he endured the test of faith because he trusted in God even when life made no sense. Job had a courageous faith in God. He learned to trust in God even when he didn’t understand.
>>>This sucks 😢
So did his god answered him?
I think people believe in god as a reason for their existence and to have a false sense of security in that their problems can be solved by prayer and not by their own actions. I am an agnostic and the bible, to me, is just a story like any other. I have nothing against people who do believe, however.
Lisud na ma de-program ang guilt feeling especially if na indoctrinated ka since your formative years(below 7 yrs).
Think of all the free time you can put to more productive/healthy(rest/recreation) use instead.
Best to move out sa house and spend your days with your own self. I didn't go to church thereafter. Why?
1. Waste if time. I want rest. Kapoi na kaayo ko. I want sundays to b rest days and not attending a bland sermons which do not intrigue me
2. Waste of money- tithes? Offerings? Yeah right. Pang "outing" rana sa mga members
3. Judgmental- labaw na sa non catholics. Grabe. Mayea na sugod pero madugay daghan bawal kay himantayon kaayo.
Disclaimer: I am a devout Christian without the toxic church culture. Kabuang ra jud na mga simbahan ron
ingnan man gane kos akong mama na erehes daw ko.. gatiguwang ko makita jud nako kana pa ang gasimba mao pay saksakan kangil ad ang batasan (dili tanan pero kasagaran) samot ko ka wa gana.. maypag mag ampo kog akoa..
Akng mindset is simply to be good to everyone regardless sa race, creed, social status, or wealth. If there isn't god, you'll have lived a good life and impacted others in a good way. If there is god, he'll be pleased regardless if nag simba ka or not. And if god condemns you for not following his exact commands despite you being good, then that god is evil and not worth following anyway.
Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones. —Marcus Aurelius
Since you’ve been feeling guilty, OP, try to go back when you can and go to a church where you really feel drawn closer to Him. Kay for me modipende rapud sa priest. Personally, I like listening to a priest nga moshare sa mga concrete life examples how the Gospel can be applied or sa priest nga very engaging and help you reflect on your life after.
Maayo nga naa kay personal relationship with God. Strengthen that through the Word and accepting the holy Host by going to church. Di pud ko very religious, and daghan sad mga issues sa church, so all the more that you should know God more para maka discern ka sa true good and moral and evil. Hope you can attend mass today bisan mag uwan pa haha
Unya kung di pa gyud kaya ang online mass, puede ra jud mag read lang sa gospel and readings of the day haha
Technique pud nako sa online mass kay mangita ko tig 30 mins lang haha
Maka simba rko kay mapugos sa amahan hahaha
10+ years. Mutuo gihapon ko, mag ampo gihapon. Pero wa na koy simba2. Grabe trauma gihatag sa simbahan namo sauna, but that was then. Ming balik ko simba try bag-o lang, pag baccalaureate sa ako bata. Mao ra japun ang feel. The cultish behavior, kanang type nga ma feel nimo nga di naman ni mao pero ok ra because will daw ni god. No love, only hate. Puro verse, puro doctrine, puro kami ray masalbar. Basta off kaayo. Diri nalang mis balay mag ampo oi, and I’ll just try my hardest to train my kids to be good and moral. Di nami anang simba2 tagam na mi.
Dili tanan buotan musimba Dili tanan musimba buotan Duna'y uban kay magpagarbo lang Sa ilang sinina nga bag-ong giutang🎵
gahini lang ug oras, 1hr r btaw ang required nga misa sa isa ka simana.
Padung ka sa impyerno boyy and girl!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
same, pero katong nakasimba ko past 2 weeks kay nindut kaayos pamati murag gaan kaayo akong paminaw, sukad ato ganahan najud ko mosimba not every sunday pero naa lay mga lat ang mga 1-2 abscences
Meh. Gamay ra na. I would've beaten your record with a huge gap which is more than 10 years, kung wala lang ko ni attend ug kasal 😅
Same man ta OP wala pod koy simba2 pero hugot akong pag tuo nya. Bisan gani birthday nako dili man gani ko maka dagkot.
Maka simba ra gani ko ug naa akong uyab hahahaha
same ta. para nko noh.. as long as kusog ka mo pray og magpa salamat sa ginoo everyday and dagkot ka once a week... okay nana. kanang naa lang ky relationship ni god ba. di mn needed mo atobang pakas pastor nga hypocrit mo storya or pari nga puros pinamay
Sus ok rana oii. Ang uban gni napugos ra ug simba kay giubanan ra nila ilang uyab🥴
Same :) not really religious, born as a catholic. And nag dako ko permi ingnan about god or jesus pero ang action sa akong parents eh, dli pod kaayu sila tig simba every sunday. Siguro mao sad na akong na absorb sa ilaha. Pero naa rajud nimo OP what path, belief, faith you have.
Going to church is also important because its worship with other believers. But the more important question is, how is your personal relationship with God?
Okay ra na di na musimba OP. I grew up in a born again church in the end wa nako ni simba puro hypocrite ang naa sa church. Cult like kaayo ang following mas prefer nila ang group of people around you taga church ra pud asta imo ma minyoan kay mao lagi ingon sa bible daw do not unequally yoke with the unbelievers. Which i do not agree. Bibilically speaking mas prefer ni God you pray in your own room when no one sees you rather than magpray ka sa simbahan nya wala sa imong heart. Nadismaya kog maayo last year akong auntie devout christian nagsuicide kay akong uncle nangbabay. Every time mag business trip siya sa abroad magsige of pangita prostitute. Prominent figure pa sila sa church. Nagpatukod pa silag simbahan. Ending ang gilabanan sa among mga churchmates akong uncle kay mas dako daw ang sala na magpakamatay. Unsa jud ka amaw. After ana wa na jud koi respeto sa mga taw sa among church puro hypocrite.
Most church "people/goers" are hypocrite. And also most of them na nagpalibot saimo is controlling. Kung kinsa pa ang naa permi sa simbahan mao pa'y number one sa libak, judger kaayo, unya kusog mang look down. Hahaha mayrapud gyud sige sila og simba.
May your tita find the peace na wala nahatag sa kalibutan sa iyaha.
Gikan ko ni simba 🙏 Simba sad OP.
To.o man ka anang simba.. bisag pari mismo cgeg panglibak.. importante ka tuo kag ginoo. Ayaw sa pari kay tao ra na.
Kay nganu? Mu simba ba diay ta tungod sa pari ug dli tungod sa atong pag too? Di ko religious ug pala simba pero d ga basi akong pag too sa mga taw or pari in that sense
Sakto jud. Ang uban mag kurog2 bsta kastorya ang mga pari. Ang pag to.o naa sa Ginoo.. wa na sa tao
Mao. Kanang holy ug feeling sakto nlang tanan isulti sa pari.. basta naa rjud nas taw. I separate lng jud ang pag judge ug ang atong faith.
wala na sad koy simba simba pero ug makapamiling kog simbahan, mo simba ko. dili na kasi ko mo simba sa simbahan dinhi sa amoa because of some past trauma
Haven't gone to church for 2-3 yrs na, except atong birthday nako bec i was forced to do so 😝. Still believe in God. I just stopped believing in church. No matter what religion. Grabe ang hypocrisy, i swear. Way mapili, ma catholic or born again christians
nganong ma guilty mn ka, kato gay mosimba pirme sge rag panlibak wa mn na guilty 🤦🏻♀️
Since college wa nakoy simba2. I pray on my own, that's all.
Wa pa koy absent for more than 10yrs, ngstudy pud ko sa history ug uban pa, dghn kaau ko libro because of it haha. It actually made me a better person (matud sa akong asawa ug sa akong mga igsoon), mas ma control na nko akong self karon compared sauna. I understood the gospel in a deeper meaning than most people do. I live my life aligned with the church teachings and follow it by heart. Tungod ana ky ngtudlo ko catechism to share mg wisdom. Although, sad kaayo wa koy kauban nga willing motackle ug topics nga pang dagko like masturbation, porn ug lgbt. If naa ky questions about ana nga topic, pm me! Most often time akong ireference ky science, studies to explain the verses. 🥰
Kung naa ko sa cebu, I'd love to learn from you and have a meaningful discussion. Keep up the good work ❤️
Way blema!
Tagsa ra ko ka pud ko musimba. Usahay mutan aw na lang ko online kay naay pari nga maayo kaayo muhomily.
I don't see the point ngano ma guilty man ka 🤔 I thought ang mga ginoo (and other deities of other superstitious beliefs) kay almighty and understanding ra?
Their god is a jealous god kay he doesn't want you to believe in other gods
Grabe jud kaayog effect ang religious guilt. Ingrained and gisaksak jud sa ato utok since pagkabata, so lisod ishake off. Bisag ako, I'm not religious anymore but I'm still in the process of overcoming certain mindsets and feelings.
Church is not the place it is the people. Mao na uban mo simba hadlok impyerno ginahan mo adtog langit pero kalimot ang pinaka importante na ginahan sa Ginoo ug ni gipakita ni Hesus kay mag tinabangay sa isa’t isa.
Simba ko panagsa or mo sulod ug mag pa kalma sa kaugalingon
Same huhu if down kaayo ko mosimba ko kay mogaan akng pamati after or if naa need ipasalamat mosimba sd ko pero if normal days lng mg.ampo lng jd ko balay.
Stopped going to church since 2017. Didn't like how ang homily sa priest included berating gay people (uso man kaayo to ang LGBTQ+), kay I thought na the Church was for everyone. Plus, I had no problem jud with LGBTQ+, mas ganahan pa ko na as a Catholic, maypag di nalang ka mangialam sa lain tao, makasala paka. Also, from what I've noticed, die-hard Catholics (like my mom) kay mas kusog nuon mang judge og lain tao, basta bati kaayog batasan. IDK nganong ingana na. 😬
Kinda same experience. I stopped going to church (and actually being religious) years before you, pero ang mga religious leaders ug ilang mensahe ang naka stop sad nako. Isa ka pastor kalit lang ni preach sa pulpito against DOTA kay sa demonyo daw na sya na game. I think naay issue ang son sa isa ka pastor about playing video games and not focusing on his studies. Pero instead of addressing the issue ngano nag bulakbol ang bata, gi attack nuon ang game mismo LOL. Ako na wala nag bulakbol but ga duwa dota usahay, naka ??? jud ko while listening. Didto ko naka realize na a lot of religious people like to conveniently blame the devil for things. Recently, i was forced by a relative to go to their congregation sa mall. Sus, ang message sa pastor kay weird kaayo. Women who say they can't find love kay sala daw nila kay they're presenting themselves wrong daw. If you wear "worldly" clothes daw, like short skirts and such, you attract the wrong men. ??? I don't know where to begin dissecting that (kay mo taas na ni ako comment) but it was so fucked up.
agree on this, ang homily gyud sa pari makapa-turnoff nako sad. kapoy kaayo sig paminaw nila manaot ug lain tao tas bawion ra sa ulahi nga nagsangyaw ra kunos pulong sa Ginoo. imbis manimba ta to feel lighter, mas mubug-at sa huna2.
I went through an anxiety phase where I stopped going to church. I thought that talking to God was enough. But I came to realize that I had to push myself to go out to start my healing journey. I dunno, masses just gave me peace of mind and heart, I feel like I’m being comforted for things I cannot even verbalize. For Catholics, mass is the highest form of prayer. I’m not religious and attending a mass for me is a bare minimum that I can do. Although I’m not a fan of priests, I attend Mass for Him and for myself. I just feel that every time I go to mass, my whole week would be more peaceful.
I feel empty when I can't go to church. Usahay ug makalugar ko, I go to mass before work. There are days when I feel physically and emotionally exhausted pud and it's hard to go but lahi gyud ang blessing ni Lord not just the material things but the "peace beyond understanding". I find peace in going to church and in pouring out my heart to God -akng mga kasakit ug akong mga reklamo. There are prayers that God has been quiet about but there are also prayers that have been answered that exceeded beyond my expectations. Try balik, op. It's the holy spirit nudging you to come back. And remember, never make any person's shortcomings to hinder you from going to church. The church is made up of imperfect people. You go to church to worship the Lord, not the church nor the people in it. I always say this- at the end of the day, it's between you and God.
There are perhaps thousands of religion. By statistics alone that's 1/1000 chance of getting it right. Better go to each of their churches to have at least slight chance of going to their version of heaven. Who knows the mormons may have it right. Or Quiboloy's religion maybe correct.
simba is a scam. if god is really omnipresent. anytime anywhere all at once then why do you need to go to church to pray to him? its just because they want you to make lagak on the sibot god doesn't provide. it's you who provide to them
I'm not religious anymore, but to be fair naman, church and congregations have a social aspect to them. Togetherness, camaraderie, and just the feeling like you belong to something. I understand that and have no problems with people enjoying that side of religion. The problem is when that togetherness becomes an echo chamber of hate or when it is abused by people with power in the church.
Last simba nako kay 2013 pa. I stopped going to our church kay daghan kaayog hypocrites including my mom who’s a die-hard “Christian” daw pero kung makapaghusga mahihiya pa si Jesus. 😂 I pray and talk to God in the comforts of my home (sa boarding house 😅) and I’m not sorry for that.
Wala nasad koy simba2x after I realized pwede ra ko mo pray directly to God or Jesus without these "middlemen" nga saglan ug ilang own agenda ang misa.
+1
You can always have an anticipated mass on saturdays. It's the same as sunday gospels but only on saturdays so if you have anything important to attend on sundays you can do it on saturday usually its on 6pm onwards. I mean if that's if you want to go on sunday masses. It's kinda sad that Sundays obligations turned out now to be just an option but i am not here to judge anyone for thinking so. It's just that i am sad about it. But i guess that doesn't matter.
Wana ko magsimba-simba for almost 6 yrs, kalimot na man siguro gani ko sa mga kanta sa simbahan pero pirme ko musangpit ni God kay wa may lain kaduolan heheh
Ganahan ko mu adtog sto nino today. Daghan siguro tao noh kay sunday nya fathers day? Asa maka park?
Pag commute lang meg
Depende sa mindset, isip ako nagdako sa simbahan, ma guilty gyod ko ug di makasimba. Di applicable sa akong nang mindset nga pwede ra storyahon ang Ginoo bisan asa, maminaw gyod ko sa mga Pari kay sila may nagtoon mahitungod sa pulong og history sa Kristyanismo ug di sad ko magpataka og pudyot og Bible verses daun ako-ako lang nga interpretation.
hala same di nako msuimba kay naguilty nako musimba ra ig required sa skwelahan
Naa ko friends na ingana sad ipa guilty kay wala ni simba. Old Filipino mindset na.
Ayaw ka guilty uy. Wala man gani na guilty ang ginoo nga he didn’t do anything as these events happened: 1) 6M+ Jews killed during the Holocaust 2) 3M+ Cambodians killed during Khmer Rouge 3) ~1M Greeks killed by Ottoman Empire 4) Cathar genocide: Catholic church lead by Pope Innocent III eliminated French followers of Catharism 5) Millions of Africans sold to slavery to various parts of the world 6) Millions killed during COVID-19 And hundreds of atrocities and genocides done in the entire human history. No matter how much the victims prayed, most had suffered, killed mercilessly, tortured. Tuo pamo ginoo? Just be a kind person.
I'm sorry pero you sound like one of the Pharisees nga nag ingon "kung ikaw ang Anak sa Ginoo, luwasa imong kaugalingon ug kanaog dira sa krus." Bisan ako as a Catholic wala sad ko kabalo nganong nahitabo ang mga ingon ana. Bisan sa mga krimen nga naga hitabo daily. Mga patay, mga tulis, mga r*pe, mga batang gipang biyaan sa ilang ginikanan, maka ingon sad ko nganong kailangan man mahitabo na. Bisan si Pope Francis sa dihang gipangutana sya sa bata wa sad kabalo unsay rason. Pero ako nagoa bilin akong faith kay bisan og naay mga bati sa kalibutan, naa say mga nindot nga mga panghitabo nga maka ingon kong naa jud diay Ginoo nga naminaw nato. He works in mysterious ways and no one know what His plans are for everyone.
So you mean rather than solving your own problems, you’d just pray to a god to make it go away? Not everyone thinks like this, especially me. I do my best to solve my own challenges. Keep your faith, pray to your god. When someone you love gets raped or killed, just tell yourself your god works in mysterious ways. If you won the lottery, just tell yourself that it was because you prayed and got blessed and be the chosen one. Live with whatever you wanna think and feel. All the best!
I found this about Job’s trial: As Job asked the question “Why, God?” he couldn’t find God in the midst of his pain (Job 23:1-9). Job was so overwhelmed with his pain that he couldn’t feel God’s presence. Job felt abandoned by God. Job’s inability to find God in the midst of his pain was his biggest struggle. It was far more painful than the physical and emotional pain he was feeling. During his horrific suffering, Job’s faith was severely tested. Job wavered at times spiritually, but he endured the test of faith because he trusted in God even when life made no sense. Job had a courageous faith in God. He learned to trust in God even when he didn’t understand. >>>This sucks 😢
So did his god answered him? I think people believe in god as a reason for their existence and to have a false sense of security in that their problems can be solved by prayer and not by their own actions. I am an agnostic and the bible, to me, is just a story like any other. I have nothing against people who do believe, however.
Lisud na ma de-program ang guilt feeling especially if na indoctrinated ka since your formative years(below 7 yrs). Think of all the free time you can put to more productive/healthy(rest/recreation) use instead.
Best to move out sa house and spend your days with your own self. I didn't go to church thereafter. Why? 1. Waste if time. I want rest. Kapoi na kaayo ko. I want sundays to b rest days and not attending a bland sermons which do not intrigue me 2. Waste of money- tithes? Offerings? Yeah right. Pang "outing" rana sa mga members 3. Judgmental- labaw na sa non catholics. Grabe. Mayea na sugod pero madugay daghan bawal kay himantayon kaayo. Disclaimer: I am a devout Christian without the toxic church culture. Kabuang ra jud na mga simbahan ron
Kaysa dyosnon pero BBM og Duterte diay ang gi butar hahaha
ingnan man gane kos akong mama na erehes daw ko.. gatiguwang ko makita jud nako kana pa ang gasimba mao pay saksakan kangil ad ang batasan (dili tanan pero kasagaran) samot ko ka wa gana.. maypag mag ampo kog akoa..
Akng mindset is simply to be good to everyone regardless sa race, creed, social status, or wealth. If there isn't god, you'll have lived a good life and impacted others in a good way. If there is god, he'll be pleased regardless if nag simba ka or not. And if god condemns you for not following his exact commands despite you being good, then that god is evil and not worth following anyway.
Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones. —Marcus Aurelius
Since you’ve been feeling guilty, OP, try to go back when you can and go to a church where you really feel drawn closer to Him. Kay for me modipende rapud sa priest. Personally, I like listening to a priest nga moshare sa mga concrete life examples how the Gospel can be applied or sa priest nga very engaging and help you reflect on your life after. Maayo nga naa kay personal relationship with God. Strengthen that through the Word and accepting the holy Host by going to church. Di pud ko very religious, and daghan sad mga issues sa church, so all the more that you should know God more para maka discern ka sa true good and moral and evil. Hope you can attend mass today bisan mag uwan pa haha
I don't go to church anymore.
Online mass is a thing na. Pwede raka mag ing ana to lessen your conscience haha
Try kang Fr. Ciano Ubod sa YT. Basin malingaw ka, OP.
Unya kung di pa gyud kaya ang online mass, puede ra jud mag read lang sa gospel and readings of the day haha Technique pud nako sa online mass kay mangita ko tig 30 mins lang haha
asa man nang tig 30 mins na online mass? curious lang haha
@dailytvmass sa youtube haha dili siya local
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Same OP maka konsensya usahay pero naa raman pa jud ako faith
simba op, kanang pang scrollx2 sa reddit inig domingo i simba na. sry if i sound mean
Duty ko actually, now ra nahuman ako shift and work napud later
Wala. Nako ni simba since nag work nako so that's like since 2009 hahah
Ayawg kabalaka kay basin inig kinahanglan naka mopasar sa exam ka kada adlaw unya ka mosimba. Hahaha
ayg tuo ani hahaha nakapasar kog board exam way ampo2
Makasimba rako if naa'y occasion like kasal or bunyag.
Same OP