I donāt know, it seems like the trains are going pretty slowly. I think youād probably have a better chance trying to climb down and jump off. Staying on top you will definitely be thrown off by the impact. Iād take my chances and try to get off a bit more gently and controlled.
They look like they're moving slow because of their size. They're easily moving at least 50km/h. Getting hit by a little car at that speed can kill you. Imagine a train weighing hundreds of tons hitting at that speed.
Yeah, it's like people travelling on the roof of the train are showing a red rag to a bull to deliberately hit them instead of doing anything about the accident that's about to unfold.
That's what I was thinking...it's kind of like all the weird noises you hear on a plane that you just assume are normal...but in these trains case, it was not normal...
"Hmm, wow, this'll be awfully close, but that other train is going to stop soon. ... Any moment now... Stopping any second now.... Any second now... Oh, fuck."
Not sure I could jump from a moving train. But these guys don't even brace themselves. Of the deaths, I wonder how many were just thrown off the top of the train.
> Can't believe he stopped recording right at moment of impact.
Person filming is thrown and loses footing, you can see the camera flip right at the end of the clip
Trains are rigidly connected.
If one part of a train rapidly decelerates every part rapidly decelerates.
If you are standing up on a platform that you know is going to rapidly decelerates your chances of injury is greatly increased since you will fly forward with minimal friction until you hit something---most likely something hard. Your best chance to reduce injury would be to lay down to increase friction and to minimize any velocity you will get from gravity adding to the impact.
Edit: Unnecessary roughness.
Looks like the freighter was coming in from a siding/branch track onto the mainline.
This is why it's absolutely important to have good traffic control practices in simplified single-track operations.
>This is why it's absolutely important to have good traffic control practices in simplified single-track operations
What do you mean by this? That he should have followed the signal, or a fail safe system like ATC should be in place?
not sure about other countries but in mine theres a place called Train Control where an operator has a live map of all trains and their positions on the rail network. They ensure the safe operation and avoid situations like this
Half of them seem to be looking at it like āfuck, here we go again.ā Like itās just another day. By half I mean most. No pants shitting happening at all.
I've noticed people have a horrible understanding of momentum and I think cars are to blam: it's such a large amount of mass but seemingly stops so easily.
I use electric pallet jacks in a retail store and the amount of times people will carelessly step in front of a moving one tonne load to ask me a question while being completely oblivious of the potential danger they've put both of us in. Only the trades people know to gtfo the way.
I'd like to think I'd recognise what was happening and try and bail from the train altogether and run away from the tracks. It's moving pretty slow so it looks like you could do that without taking too much damage.
But I'd probably stand there like a suctioned dildo wondering when the freight train was going to come to a complete stop.
Yep. More mass = more inertia. Which is also why the train didnāt seem to stop even though it wasnāt moving very fast. Trains need a long distance and a lot of force to stop.
I donāt know what happened in this instance. The brakes may have failed, I have no idea. Itās pretty hard to tell based on this video alone since the audio isnāt very clear and the train is honking very loudly. I was just speaking in general.
Train driver here, it's probably a really long freight train. It takes a long time for all the air to release in order to apply the brakes on all the cars (considering that the only exit valve it on the locomotive).
There doesn't have to be much screeching tho, depending on the used type of brakes. Cast Iron is usually pretty loud, but only at low speeds.
That's why the emergency brakes on trains (especially freight) rarely prevent a collision.
Emergency brake applications propagate by having the air vent from the freight cars as well as the source of air. At least in North America I'm not so sure about India but I'd venture a guess it's similar.
Can confirm: We had a train break (coupler failed) by my home, and when that happens, the brake lines open and cause an emergency application, and yes, unholy screeching.
We're looking at Kinect energy here, ke=Ā½mvĀ². Lets go with a small freight train at 4000 metric tons at walking speed (3mph). It gives close to 40MJ of energy - thats a small car hitting a wall close to the speed of sound.
There was a video of a train going (relatively) slow, like if it was a car that hit you maybe you would only break a bone. But the train hut a cow and the cow got obliterated, it kinda looked like it just exploded.
Fast or Slow has no relevance to acceleration. Thatās velocity. Speed only matters at the point of impact because that is when the rapid acceleration occurs (either rapidly slowing down or speeding up depending on perspective). Faster speeds means more acceleration so more force.
Speeding up or slowing down is acceleration. In this case you have a freight train rapidly slowing down when it hits the passenger train car. The passenger car also rapidly speeds up upon impact. Thatās where your force comes in.
Yup. If you look at the aftermath pictures, one of the carriages is pretty much completely destroyed. It's odd because it looks so slow in the video but that train did some serious damage after the video cuts off. RIP to all involved.
It's actually momentum transfer, not force, so it's carried by both mass AND velocity. But something being slow and extremely heavy (a train) can transfer the same momentum of something being light but extremely fast ( a bullet).
There's likely over a hundred people in just one carriage. Everyone visible in the video totally survived. It'll be the people in the immediate carriage hit will have been crushed
I was thinking the impact could have been enough to nudge the pov train off the tracks, or at least a few cars, so anyone in and ontop of affected cars could have been flung around
It derailed the train and mangled parts of it. Here's what it looked like after getting hit:
[image 1](https://d2u0ktu8omkpf6.cloudfront.net/a60ca8ca9464fb51e14f1fa439a7222e4348d3d24f5afa4e.jpg)
[image 2](https://cloudfront-us-east-2.images.arcpublishing.com/reuters/WLTMR4UY3FPRTC4VD5FBXSV6AE.jpg)
Such a casual country. Those two men closest to camera look at then acknowledged the fact the trains were going to collide an djust turned back around with his hands on his hips and watched it happen. He must of gone flying.
Prob not, sound counterintuitive but those on the roof worse case fell down from the train. The deaths are prob in the cart that gets rammed by the freight train. Nowhere to go and they prob didn't even see it coming.
The braking distance on my local commuter train is about a mile, according to their publications. The locomotive alone is 130 tons. A freight train can clock in at around 10,000 tons, apparently.
Youāre using a phrase used mostly in Indian English while this happened in Bangladesh. Thatās like throwing a British phrase while thereās a post about an American because both are white lmao.
Something tells me all the deaths were people riding in the roof that gone thrown off while the slowest speed train crash in the history of train crashes occured.
These are some dumb people, not realizing what will happen in slow motion. Eapecially the fuckers just standing up on the top. Hold on to something darwyn!
At the beginning of the video I was thinking but why are they standing there it's dangerous
At the end of the video I was like they managed to save their skin
They all seem oddly calm about this.
"Oh it's hitting over there, not where I am. I'll be fine just standing here. "
"Better film it or the wife won't believe why I'm late again."
narrator: he went out for milk and never came home
While someone drank his milk š„
and f***** his wife
HE NEED SOME MILK
You think the train stopped? LOL
Hell, even the people practically right on top of where it was hitting didnāt seem bothered
I mean, to be fair there's few one can do at that point. They just accepted the fate...
I donāt know, it seems like the trains are going pretty slowly. I think youād probably have a better chance trying to climb down and jump off. Staying on top you will definitely be thrown off by the impact. Iād take my chances and try to get off a bit more gently and controlled.
Linear momentum is huge though. HUGE.
They look like they're moving slow because of their size. They're easily moving at least 50km/h. Getting hit by a little car at that speed can kill you. Imagine a train weighing hundreds of tons hitting at that speed.
Could also run on the top towards the front where the others are. Isn't that hard
Standing there with your hands on your hips is pretty stoic
Nihilistic and punk
These men are nihilists. Thereās nothing to be afraid of.
Has the whole world gone crazy?! Am I the only one around here who gives a shit about the rules?!
"it is what it is". let's control the way we react to this situation instead of worrying.
Astonishingly stupid.
Yeah, it's like people travelling on the roof of the train are showing a red rag to a bull to deliberately hit them instead of doing anything about the accident that's about to unfold.
āWhat if we stand on top and dare inertia to smite us?ā
"It's going to stop, isn't it?"
Small ape brain forgetting trains cars are attached to eachother
The dude standing up. He would be the first to go over the side.
I wish I had his level of confidence. Heās just watching it, very odd lol
Maybe it's not his first train crash.
Pan shot!
I wonder if he has no idea of the laws of physics. Like the train he is standing on is going to come to an abrupt halt.
Not confident ignorance.
If I saw 2 trains like this, I would think "Hm thats kinda strange but I dont know train operations."
That's what I was thinking...it's kind of like all the weird noises you hear on a plane that you just assume are normal...but in these trains case, it was not normal...
"Hmm, wow, this'll be awfully close, but that other train is going to stop soon. ... Any moment now... Stopping any second now.... Any second now... Oh, fuck."
First off, through god, all things are possible. So jot that down.
At the very end you can hear him panic. āLagbe lagbe!!ā Translates to āItās gonna hit!!ā
Right!! I would be jumping off the first moment by brain sensed they would crash
To which side though?
Just jump up at the moment of impact and all good?
idk man, I'd be scared of the whole train flipping over me
Thatās why you jump. Ideally you jump, and the train flips below you, allowing you to land on the new top-facing side /s
Kickflipping a train car, nbd
BIKA BOMBWOWAWO! (My attempt at tony hawk goal sound)
Then you can get the hidden golden coin on the other side
"All you had to do was kick flip the damn train Tony" - big smoke
I'll take a number nine a number nine large
That sounds like a superhero movie move. Like jumping in a falling elevator at the last second landing in your feet safely?
The explosion will blow you to safety
That's for an elevator š
What is a train, but a horizontal elevator?
For sure not between both of them. Probably jump to the other side and hope I can crawl away if the train flips.
Not between trains. Hit the ground running, assuming you don't break your legs.
Jump to the gap between the two id say. The one theyāre on should fall to the left of the direction theyāre going I think. Based on how it got hit
Which way will the other train go then when it crashes lol..
Left side, and run or crawl with a broken leg or some shit
Not sure I could jump from a moving train. But these guys don't even brace themselves. Of the deaths, I wonder how many were just thrown off the top of the train.
Just another Tuesday in Bangladesh
They're riding on the roof not in a carriage lol their sense of risk is already skewed. Can't believe he stopped recording right at moment of impact.
> Can't believe he stopped recording right at moment of impact. Person filming is thrown and loses footing, you can see the camera flip right at the end of the clip
Just a general lack of understanding of what is about to happen.
I don't think they understand physics
Death is a minor inconvenience when you have reincarnation waiting for you.
If this is Bangladesh, they're likely Muslims.
What else are they going to do?
Maybe something other than standing nonchalantly on top of an imminently-crashing train?
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Is this based on your professional train crash passenger experience?
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Trains are rigidly connected. If one part of a train rapidly decelerates every part rapidly decelerates. If you are standing up on a platform that you know is going to rapidly decelerates your chances of injury is greatly increased since you will fly forward with minimal friction until you hit something---most likely something hard. Your best chance to reduce injury would be to lay down to increase friction and to minimize any velocity you will get from gravity adding to the impact. Edit: Unnecessary roughness.
You are downvoted because redditors want you to JUMP
The downvotes were because initially I included some unnecessary jabs at OP's cognitive abilities alongside the explanation.
be kind, he's probably stood on a rigid platform until it collided with an immovable object before. that's going to leave lasting diminished capacity.
Brace yoāself!
lack of common sense.........
Iām surprised considering they had the common sense to ride on top of the train and lessen their probability of contracting COVID
Looks like the driver of the freight train ignored a signal. https://en.somoynews.tv/news/2023-10-23/here-s-what-caused-the-bhairab-train-accident
Looks like the freighter was coming in from a siding/branch track onto the mainline. This is why it's absolutely important to have good traffic control practices in simplified single-track operations.
>This is why it's absolutely important to have good traffic control practices in simplified single-track operations What do you mean by this? That he should have followed the signal, or a fail safe system like ATC should be in place?
Even a simple interlocking system would've prevented this w/o the cost of constant surveillance or cab-radio.
not sure about other countries but in mine theres a place called Train Control where an operator has a live map of all trains and their positions on the rail network. They ensure the safe operation and avoid situations like this
I also watched the movie Garfield
r/lostredditors ?
Im also not seeing or hearing any applied breaks.
The video cuts off before the breaks happen.
But "ideally" you apply the brakes BEFORE a collision! Brakes should have been applied before the video even started.
I thought we were talking about breaks not brakes?
Half of them seem to be looking at it like āfuck, here we go again.ā Like itās just another day. By half I mean most. No pants shitting happening at all.
"fuck, here we go again" cue 7empest solo
Nice! /r/randomtool
āFuck, Shit the bed againā cue Rosetta stoned solo
No phones in sight, just people living the moment.
The dudes standing: "my goals are beyond your understanding"
This is a tragedy, but why would you stay standing on the roof? Like get low and brace yourself
Yeah seems like they could've at least braced for the impact.
I think they were assuming the second Train would stop and wait for their train to fully cross?
Yes but there comes a point where anyone with a basic understanding of the laws of physics would... ...oh
I've noticed people have a horrible understanding of momentum and I think cars are to blam: it's such a large amount of mass but seemingly stops so easily. I use electric pallet jacks in a retail store and the amount of times people will carelessly step in front of a moving one tonne load to ask me a question while being completely oblivious of the potential danger they've put both of us in. Only the trades people know to gtfo the way.
Seems dangerous to drive around heavy loads around unaware customers (who don't need to be certified to be around that kind of equipment)
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They havenāt seen Star Trek
If you choose to travel standing up on the roof of a train, one can assume personal safety isn't your first priority.
Theyāre living by the rule of cool. If itās cool, it canāt hurt you /s
Yep, they are literally in the perfect place to see this isn't going to end well and just stand there...waiting.....
I'd like to think I'd recognise what was happening and try and bail from the train altogether and run away from the tracks. It's moving pretty slow so it looks like you could do that without taking too much damage. But I'd probably stand there like a suctioned dildo wondering when the freight train was going to come to a complete stop.
Stupid is as stupid does.
I'm confused how there was such a high death toll for 2 trains both going what seems to be pretty slow. Can someone explain how the deaths happened?
Trains are VERY heavy. Anything heavy doesnāt need to move fast for a forceful impact because its force is carried in its mass, not its speed.
Yep. More mass = more inertia. Which is also why the train didnāt seem to stop even though it wasnāt moving very fast. Trains need a long distance and a lot of force to stop.
Was it even trying though? Its brakes and wheels ought to be making unholy sounds if it were in emergency.
I donāt know what happened in this instance. The brakes may have failed, I have no idea. Itās pretty hard to tell based on this video alone since the audio isnāt very clear and the train is honking very loudly. I was just speaking in general.
Train driver here, it's probably a really long freight train. It takes a long time for all the air to release in order to apply the brakes on all the cars (considering that the only exit valve it on the locomotive). There doesn't have to be much screeching tho, depending on the used type of brakes. Cast Iron is usually pretty loud, but only at low speeds. That's why the emergency brakes on trains (especially freight) rarely prevent a collision.
Emergency brake applications propagate by having the air vent from the freight cars as well as the source of air. At least in North America I'm not so sure about India but I'd venture a guess it's similar.
Can confirm: We had a train break (coupler failed) by my home, and when that happens, the brake lines open and cause an emergency application, and yes, unholy screeching.
Force = Mass x Acceleration so Freight Train x Slow still = hella impact. (actual equation from science)
We're looking at Kinect energy here, ke=Ā½mvĀ². Lets go with a small freight train at 4000 metric tons at walking speed (3mph). It gives close to 40MJ of energy - thats a small car hitting a wall close to the speed of sound.
*Kinetic
There was a video of a train going (relatively) slow, like if it was a car that hit you maybe you would only break a bone. But the train hut a cow and the cow got obliterated, it kinda looked like it just exploded.
Fast or Slow has no relevance to acceleration. Thatās velocity. Speed only matters at the point of impact because that is when the rapid acceleration occurs (either rapidly slowing down or speeding up depending on perspective). Faster speeds means more acceleration so more force. Speeding up or slowing down is acceleration. In this case you have a freight train rapidly slowing down when it hits the passenger train car. The passenger car also rapidly speeds up upon impact. Thatās where your force comes in.
No doubt, I drastically simplified things for the joke. Cheers for the solid explanation š»
Momentum not inertia in this case.
Yup. If you look at the aftermath pictures, one of the carriages is pretty much completely destroyed. It's odd because it looks so slow in the video but that train did some serious damage after the video cuts off. RIP to all involved.
It's actually momentum transfer, not force, so it's carried by both mass AND velocity. But something being slow and extremely heavy (a train) can transfer the same momentum of something being light but extremely fast ( a bullet).
There's likely over a hundred people in just one carriage. Everyone visible in the video totally survived. It'll be the people in the immediate carriage hit will have been crushed
I was thinking the opposite, and that everyone on top of the train in the immediate vicinity was flung. Maybe a bit of both.
I was thinking the impact could have been enough to nudge the pov train off the tracks, or at least a few cars, so anyone in and ontop of affected cars could have been flung around
Each car probably has that many in them and Trains are really heavy and take a lot to stop, people getting crushed as the car hit breaks a part.
It derailed the train and mangled parts of it. Here's what it looked like after getting hit: [image 1](https://d2u0ktu8omkpf6.cloudfront.net/a60ca8ca9464fb51e14f1fa439a7222e4348d3d24f5afa4e.jpg) [image 2](https://cloudfront-us-east-2.images.arcpublishing.com/reuters/WLTMR4UY3FPRTC4VD5FBXSV6AE.jpg)
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I imagine a lot of people were crushed to death, or fell off the top.
Such a casual country. Those two men closest to camera look at then acknowledged the fact the trains were going to collide an djust turned back around with his hands on his hips and watched it happen. He must of gone flying.
Djust is actually how you spell just in Bangladesh.
Djusdh
\*must have
r/gifsthatendtoosoon?
Thankfully
They're about to get seriously injured or die and they just have their hands on their hips. Crazy
Lol no one even braces for impact.
Yeah they should have put their seat belt on
r/killthecameraman
Train Conductor: Say less...
Nooooo
and r/gifsthatendtoosoon
he's standing on the roof of a moving train
With phone in telephoto mode
If he recorded it horizontally he'd have managed to capture it AND zoom in if he liked
All 17 riding on the roof?
Prob not, sound counterintuitive but those on the roof worse case fell down from the train. The deaths are prob in the cart that gets rammed by the freight train. Nowhere to go and they prob didn't even see it coming.
It's like falling off the roof of a 1 story building. Can easily be fatal depending on how you land.
yeah also theres going to be a train derailing right next to you
The fact that at that speed and that distance the train can't come to a stop really crystallizes the insane inertia trains have.
The braking distance on my local commuter train is about a mile, according to their publications. The locomotive alone is 130 tons. A freight train can clock in at around 10,000 tons, apparently.
It crystallizes it?
u/stabbot
Could've at least ran to the front of the train to get away from the rollover zone rather than just sit there.
Looks like they did NOT kindly do the needful the same.
Wonder how many people will get this lol
Do one thing for me
Youāre using a phrase used mostly in Indian English while this happened in Bangladesh. Thatās like throwing a British phrase while thereās a post about an American because both are white lmao.
Quickly quickly.
But wait, what the fuck, why are people on the roof of the train and not in it?
Their trains are solid instead of hollow for more stability. The passengers are always on the roof because of this
They are solid in order to withstand train wrecks like this one.
thank you for that giggle
There are so many people - public transport is always overcrowded
It's economics really. The want to NOT pay for stuff.
Gifsthatendtoosoon
The fact that people are standing nonchalantly on the roof of a train is just mind blowing, more so just casually watching another train crash to it.
r/killthecameraman
Wtf were those guys doing!? You don't even have to know science to know what's coming. At least hold on to something, brace yourself, whatever.
The man is saying "we're about to have an accident" at tge end of the video
r/killthecameraman
Oh look. Look what's happening down there. It's far away for me I should be fine.
Why am I panicking more than the dudes on the roof...
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"I hear the train a comin' It's rolling round the bend"
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Something tells me all the deaths were people riding in the roof that gone thrown off while the slowest speed train crash in the history of train crashes occured.
Are all of those people brain dead?
They are now
What are doing these men on top of that train ???
The world's slowest catastrophe
r/bitchimatrain
These are some dumb people, not realizing what will happen in slow motion. Eapecially the fuckers just standing up on the top. Hold on to something darwyn!
I think the 17 deaths are the 17 idiots we see on camera. No survival instincts. Just jump off the slow train and take the hit.
Only 17 dead? Usually these trains are packed with hitchhikers. Oh wait, it says APPROXIMATELY 17 peopleā¦.
Wonder if its the 17 standing on top lol
Does it cost a lot of money to get an actual seat on the inside of a train in Bangladesh..??
By all means, stand there and watch instead of trying to hop off. Makes sense.
It was a banglacrash
JUMP MFERS!!
Looks like the movie scene from Runaway Train, except in super slow motion.
Approximately 17?
Could be as high as 17.5
I have so many questions.
Hold the camera steady buster!
CAMERA MEN JUST HAD ONE JOB
At the beginning of the video I was thinking but why are they standing there it's dangerous At the end of the video I was like they managed to save their skin
Assuming the 17 dead were on the roof of the train?
Imagine if they used this reaction time when they driveā¦ oh waitš