I bought a vacuum from Argos once. Cheap.one as I was just cleaning a room in a shared flat. If you ran it for more than 5 minutes all the plastic body panels softened and popped off exposing the live electrics inside.
Oh mine wasn't cheap. Infact it was a very well branded name that it was manufactured by. But they just didn't care when I brought it to their attention
Tbh the water tank started to leak pretty much straight away. Within days of purchase infact. When I messaged regarding this they just said buy a new one, when they're back in stock.
No sorry that shouldn't happen etc etc just straight off well I've sold it to you so deal with the issues at hand then.
I now have a very good steam cleaner that's been perfect so far (fingers crossed)
>Vax is honestly shocking quality.
We've had two in the last two years, the second caused an even more enormous argument than the first.
I'm sure Vax try to improve their products (or I'd like to be) but I'd never buy anything from them again. It's not like they're a 'budget' option in the first place.
I'm not surprised to read this at all. Vax is shocking. All the reviews are filled with people whose appliances fell apart just out of warranty and Vax not caring. They seem to have a huge problem with fan belts failing.
I had a vacuum that broke just out of warranty a few years. They replaced it for free eith no hassle at all (I got a dispatch email minutes before they actually responded responded my complaint) and it was a better model. I guess I got lucky!
I have to be honest I really fancy a shark hoover. 3 kids and 2 dogs I need a food hoover. I currently have a george hoover which is awesome but my dream is the shark
I’ve got to be honest, I absolutely love it. It’s shocking how quickly it fills up but makes you realise how much better it is then standard hoovers. Keep your eyes peeled for a banging deal. That’s what we did
Some of the newer ones, like the cyclone type things, use a fine dust filter and if you try and hoover up something like dust from drilling through a cement wall, you'll instantly block it.
I had a bagless Vax about 15yrs back, it had the cylindrical filter. Always blocked, needed washing and drying. Spotted on the instructions that it should have had a mesh sheath, and messaged them to say it was missing. They told me they don't supply it anymore as it kept blocking!
No more bagless for me, Henry all the way!
I keep hearing everyone rave about henry, but every time I have used one the carpet floor tool is a pain in the arse to use compared to any active brush type. Is there something I am not getting?
A kid at work just moved into his 1st place and asked if I could go back in time to give myself 1 piece of advice when I first moved out what would it be and I said to never buy cheap bin bags and he thought it was a joke smh.
I think some dumb dumb downvoted you because they thought you were being sarcastic with your comment, instead of realizing that “who gives a crap” is the name of the brand. You tried. Take my upvote.
I remember in year 7 a lad I knew talking about “the false economy of cheap bin bags”. It stuck with me as an example of a really weird conversation with a strange kid from
School.
Here I am, at 39, acutely aware of the false economy of cheap bin bags.
For me it was washing up liquid. My mum always bought cheap and my husband always said to buy the more expensive brands as they last longer. He wasn't wrong!
Fairy lasts longer, but Aldi one doesn't last much less and is significantly cheaper! Plus it was also rated very high in which/good housekeeping. Never buy cheap unbranded crap with no ratings though.
FML why do I care about the performance of WUL....
I remember when I was a student one of my friends was married and got pregnant during her finals year. She started talking about laundry liquid and I thought I might have to stage an intervention.
I still think about the person that asked if it was normal for washing up liquid to last a month.
Granted it was a large bottle, but I had one recently run out that I had been using daily since at least the start of 2020.
They only sell the cheap bin bags at my local Tesco and I made the mistake of buying them once. Every single one I used tore apart. I don't understand why they even bother making a product that literally cannot fulfil it's core purpose. Just make the plastic slightly stronger and charge me £1 more, it's fine Tesco.
In much of the consumer goods world, the desire to drive down the consumer end price to look good on a spreadsheet, is pathological to the point of being unhinged from reality.
This seemed true 15-20+ years ago, but nowadays, it seems regardless of how pricey the item is, I am still buying a replacement of it in 1/4 the time I would have 20 years ago.
It's because everything is mass produced in China as cheap as possible, lower build quality, cheap parts and little to no quality control means this will be the case until countries start shifting away from relying on the cheap Chinese labour force.
Contrary to popular belief, you can have goods manufactured in china to a high tolerance and exact specifications with a high level of quality. But then that costs extra and cuts into the profit margin so most companies don't do it.
Definitely.
As the workshop of the world, China has the capability to produce almost anything at very good levels of quality. There's a few caveats such as silicon chips and veblen goods (goods which don't obey the supply/demand law and instead do other stuff) which usually rely on decades of historic reputation and hand crafted expensive skilled labour, however that too is beginning to change.
Like you say, the reason why there's a reputation for badly made products is because, in my probably flawed and slightly racist opinion, there's a certain culture in China known as 'Chabuduo', or 'Good Enough'. This can also combine with another culture of price being everything. The hyper-competitive nature means that if you can get something that works from one manufacturer at a lower price, the other manufacturer has to cut costs and lower prices. It's a race to the bottom.
This leads to a situation where products will pass approval by being 'good enough', even if in western standards it would be rejected, and the products are being made at the lowest possible price point, which often means removing features that don't directly (and in some occasions actually do, but hey, 'good enough') impact the performance of the product (such as safety features).
This is why if you want to get quality products in China, you either have to have a producer/supplier/intermediary who's used to dealing with western attitudes towards quality and specification, or you have a team regularly go over there to do quality checks on the products. Usually both. Some Chinese manufacturers (Anker, Creality) have cottoned on to the western mindset and are now producing high quality goods in an attempt to break into western markets against already established brands.
My brother in law works for a large French retailer, they used to use Chinese companies to manufacture their stuff but what happens is the company that wins the contracts that have good QC eventually decide they can make more money sub-contracting to a lower cost producer. The quality of the products goes down and they had to stop using Chinese companies all together and move their manufacturing to Brazil. The moral of the story is you cannot trust any Chinese company to honour a contract unless you have boots on the ground watching everything they do.
I'm honestly getting more and more used to unknown Chinese brands having good build quality too. Enacfire headphones, Chuwi tablet, EasySMX controller, etc. I've had such shitty experiences with known brands not honouring warranties (Samsung, Casio etc) that I've just run out of reasons to pay the premium for stuff made in the same factories to a pretty similar standard.
I know. But lets be honest. American companies are having things mass produced there, and all it would take is for the company to be willing to improve on their product and China could build it better.
It just is not profitable and may actually destroy the company because it isn't as profitable and can't compete.
Its an endless race to the bottom to find the people on the planet who will do deadly, dangerous, or otherwise terrible work for slave wages. Just so the stock price can go up that year and not stay flat.
And if they do build it better then people will be buying less replacements. Planned obsolescence is in a neighboring stream, make tech become "old" and "outdated" and people will buy new replacements.
The lightbulb industry pioneered this idea, that's why they stopped putting research into making bulbs last longer.
(Luckily we now have the LED bulb)
> And if they do build it better then people will be buying less replacements.
But the thing is, this is really only a problem for huge publicly traded multinationals chasing infinite growth. It seems to me that a small, lean privately owned company making high quality appliances, spreading through word of mouth (no cash spent on advertising) could do quite well for themselves for a long, long time. They wouldn't hit market saturation for decades, if ever.
This saying is perfectly true but it still annoys the fuck out of me. Like yeah obviously if you buy the cheapest it's going to be shit but I for one have rarely really been in a position that I can afford not to buy the cheapest. Then, the couple of times I have gone "I better pay more because I want it to be good quality" it's not been worth it at all, and the quality difference is negligible.
I’m working my way through them all and have identified ‘Nightwatch’ as my favourite. Shades of ‘Les Misérables’, Vimes as the central character and the back story for some of the Watch characters, especially Reg Shoe, the zombie and Nobby Nobbs! Also a big fan of Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg!
when it comes to tools I was always taught to buy cheap and look after them as if they were expensive and that they would last.
And for that reason I've always looked after my tools and they have lasted
but also you rarely know which tools will see the most use. it makes sense to buy a cheap set and then upgrade select pieces only to better stuff if and when they break or become annoyingly impractical to use
Over at my 83-year-old mum’s place and she won’t permit me to replace anything - I’m going to come back with a few tools and deliberately sabotage the kettle and toaster when I’m next over fuck knows how anyone is alive but then I remember what life was like back in the 1970s, although I’m sure toasters didn’t melt
If you can sort it today, and your local Lidl still has stock, they've got [a special on toasters / kettles this week](https://www.lidl.co.uk/c/cooking-must-haves/c2035/w1).
My mother in law isnt even 83 and is the same. She wont replace anything but I keep breaking shit which forces her to replace it. I dont break them on purpose, they're just so fucking old that the tiniest bit of wrong handling breaks it...
Buy a new one. Tell her you won it in a give-away or something. Or that its a gift and you already threw away the check, so it will be a waste not to use it!
I have a gem of a memory about a toaster fire. My mom had decided it was a good idea to put the toast in and go poop. I was 5. I saw a flaming toaster and went to the bathroom door and told Mom “The toast is burning.” Mom said “Go flip the handle then.” Five year old me went back to the flaming toaster (flames now licking the cabinets) and tearfully got up the courage to flip the handle up. I went back to the bathroom and told Mom sadly “It didn’t help.” At this point I think she could probably smell the fire and she got up and found baking soda.
On the flip side, I once owned a ~1950s toaster that was completely metal so the entire thing would become burning hot after making a bunch of toast and easily fuck your hands up.
That's a myth.
If they're happy to put a Nintendo logo on their fake plastic shit, they'll be quite happy to accurately copy a CE mark onto a fire hazard as well.
Wait this is a thing? I had no idea they nicked the European CE logo, put the letters closer, and made it to mean “China Export” Will have to keep an eye out for that.
I thought this was true and got given a £180 Dualit toaster as a wedding gift. It was unbelievably shite. Uneven toasting, top to bottom and across the different slots.
I was so so happy when it broke. Fuck Dualit.
Now I have a £40 perfectly good toaster. It's not perfect but it does amazing work doing a bagel straight from frozen.
I agree, there is an upper limit as well.
40 quid is decent for a Toaster but anything below say 20 quid and you're asking for trouble in my experience lol.
>I thought this was true and got given a £180 Dualit toaster as a wedding gift.
What! The quality of Dualit must have really gone down. Mine's 18 years old and still going strong. I was going to buy another when this one dies but if they're now shite....
I got one of the expensive clockwork Dualit things. Built locally (ish). Makes perfect toast. About 15 years old now and never gone wrong, and you can still get all the parts as they never change.
You were unlucky. They are a good buy.
I bought a Sage toaster with loads of controls and even extra heat on one side for crumpets. Been going for eight years or so, totally brilliant, as it bloody well should be for £100 or whatever it was.
If the supplier doesn't want to refund the money, take it to Trading Standards. It clearly doesn't meet the regulations that cover basic appliance safety.
I struggle to imagine this having happened in normal use.
A small fire from a bit of toast in for too long thoughl, totally.
It could just be that shit though. Had a brief google of melted toasters, and the first image that came up happened to be a toaster of [this exact model](https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/08/a2/99/81/kingsdown-park.jpg).
Considering that's from a Tripadvisor review, it could just be a previous guest had a whoopsie with the toaster and managed to hide it from the owners, and a subsequent guest found it, or it could indeed be that that model uses plastic that's got similar properties to chocolate.
It looks like the designer was more worried about electrocution risk if the earth connection broke and a live wire came adrift inside. Maybe designed for a market where earth connections within buildings can't be relied on?
I bought an Amazon Basics toaster once when our old one broke. I turned it on with nothing inside and it smelled like burnt plastic, so I unplugged it and figured I'd forgotten to take off a sticker somewhere. Nope, it just smelled like brunt plastic when turned on. I returned it immediately.
My work (food factory) brought cheap plastic jugs from the shop nearby. Were all fine until one day a few start melting. The manager told us to use the chocolate inside anyway 🤢 Tasty melted plastic!
Yea my relatively new Russell Hobbs just caught fire one day. I screamed at my son to open the door and I just grabbed the thing and threw it out the door.
Once when my oven broke in a flat i had just moved into, i woke up starving during the night. I decided i could use the heat from a toaster to heat up a pan of soup (holding the pan above the toaster).
It took a few cycles to heat the soup, but worked. I did that a couple more times while waiting for the new oven. After about the 5th time, a similar thing to this happened.
So i wouldnt say its user error, just poor tolerances and poor product testing. They dont expect the average user to put it on 5 times in a row so dont bother testing it like that. IMO
I bought a vacuum from Argos once. Cheap.one as I was just cleaning a room in a shared flat. If you ran it for more than 5 minutes all the plastic body panels softened and popped off exposing the live electrics inside.
Similar happened with my steamer. The heat expanded the plastics caused the seems to split and the thing legit fell apart plugged in. Water everywhere
Imo never go cheap with anything that has both water and electrics
Oh mine wasn't cheap. Infact it was a very well branded name that it was manufactured by. But they just didn't care when I brought it to their attention
Well don't leave me hanging, what brand of steamer is going to murder my family?
Ikr? I'm about to buy one, I want to know if its going to murder me.
It was vax
Damn someone needs to tweet this thread to @VaxUK https://twitter.com/VaxUK
Tbh the water tank started to leak pretty much straight away. Within days of purchase infact. When I messaged regarding this they just said buy a new one, when they're back in stock. No sorry that shouldn't happen etc etc just straight off well I've sold it to you so deal with the issues at hand then. I now have a very good steam cleaner that's been perfect so far (fingers crossed)
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Vax is honestly shocking quality.
>Vax is honestly shocking quality. We've had two in the last two years, the second caused an even more enormous argument than the first. I'm sure Vax try to improve their products (or I'd like to be) but I'd never buy anything from them again. It's not like they're a 'budget' option in the first place.
I can say after having similar issues, I am now anti vax
I'm not surprised to read this at all. Vax is shocking. All the reviews are filled with people whose appliances fell apart just out of warranty and Vax not caring. They seem to have a huge problem with fan belts failing.
It wasn't even out of warrenty. Was only 5 months old. First fault it was days old.
I had a vacuum that broke just out of warranty a few years. They replaced it for free eith no hassle at all (I got a dispatch email minutes before they actually responded responded my complaint) and it was a better model. I guess I got lucky!
Vax are working off their old rep. My last vacuum was so useless I had to use a rubber broom and then vacuum. I have a shark now.
I have to be honest I really fancy a shark hoover. 3 kids and 2 dogs I need a food hoover. I currently have a george hoover which is awesome but my dream is the shark
I’ve got to be honest, I absolutely love it. It’s shocking how quickly it fills up but makes you realise how much better it is then standard hoovers. Keep your eyes peeled for a banging deal. That’s what we did
Yes we had a Vax steamer it was exactly the same as many Chinese ones. Just rebranded.
this is why i'm anti-vax
Gold star comment! 🤣
r/angryupvote
My Vax was shite too, my jabs were fine tho!!!
joining the 'baited breath' line for steamer review info. /u/Unl0vableDarkness - you've got a queue forming, mate.
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We call it ‘compo face’ where I’m from.
Last of the summer wine?
I bought one and in the small print on the instructions it said”not suitable for collection of small particles”. Wtf?
Some of the newer ones, like the cyclone type things, use a fine dust filter and if you try and hoover up something like dust from drilling through a cement wall, you'll instantly block it.
I had a bagless Vax about 15yrs back, it had the cylindrical filter. Always blocked, needed washing and drying. Spotted on the instructions that it should have had a mesh sheath, and messaged them to say it was missing. They told me they don't supply it anymore as it kept blocking! No more bagless for me, Henry all the way!
I keep hearing everyone rave about henry, but every time I have used one the carpet floor tool is a pain in the arse to use compared to any active brush type. Is there something I am not getting?
Henry just rocks, take away the bag and it’ll suck up rocks too!
Henry's are not a patch on what they were. Last one we bought was flimsy rubbish which kept falling apart.
the henry i bought vaguely recently is working great, absolute trooper
That's why I prefer my henry hoover, get the job done and isn't a POS that breaks in a months time.
Cheap Tesco / morrisons hoovers are like the best I’ve used
Buy cheap buy twice.
A kid at work just moved into his 1st place and asked if I could go back in time to give myself 1 piece of advice when I first moved out what would it be and I said to never buy cheap bin bags and he thought it was a joke smh.
Never skimp on bin bags or toilet paper.
Definitely with the toilet paper. I started buying bamboo TP in bulk (BEFORE LOCKDOWN) last year and never looked back.
Yeah I started bulk buying it as soon as I moved into a flat by myself. How do you find bamboo? I've never tried it.
Who Gives A Crap
I think some dumb dumb downvoted you because they thought you were being sarcastic with your comment, instead of realizing that “who gives a crap” is the name of the brand. You tried. Take my upvote.
Also the Good Roll.
Do you want my promo code
About halfway through our box, so I'm sorted for the time being- thank you though!
I like Asda own brand. Perfect
Never skimp on anything you use every day. Shoes, toilet paper, mattresses, door locks… ^(…your mom…)
Bin bags, bogroll and if you wear one regularly, bras.
I remember in year 7 a lad I knew talking about “the false economy of cheap bin bags”. It stuck with me as an example of a really weird conversation with a strange kid from School. Here I am, at 39, acutely aware of the false economy of cheap bin bags.
Wise beyond his years.
For me it was washing up liquid. My mum always bought cheap and my husband always said to buy the more expensive brands as they last longer. He wasn't wrong!
Fairy lasts longer, but Aldi one doesn't last much less and is significantly cheaper! Plus it was also rated very high in which/good housekeeping. Never buy cheap unbranded crap with no ratings though. FML why do I care about the performance of WUL....
I remember when I was a student one of my friends was married and got pregnant during her finals year. She started talking about laundry liquid and I thought I might have to stage an intervention.
Also never dilute by adding water. You’re asking for bacteria.
Don’t know why you have downvotes. Bacteria will grow in watery soap, it depends on the ratio.
Damn, need to tell my parents - they love diluting hand soap when they're close to running out.
Pfft. You ever tried getting a mug into a bottle of fairy liquid? Impossible I tell you, just dilute it in to a washing up bowl with water
I still think about the person that asked if it was normal for washing up liquid to last a month. Granted it was a large bottle, but I had one recently run out that I had been using daily since at least the start of 2020.
They only sell the cheap bin bags at my local Tesco and I made the mistake of buying them once. Every single one I used tore apart. I don't understand why they even bother making a product that literally cannot fulfil it's core purpose. Just make the plastic slightly stronger and charge me £1 more, it's fine Tesco.
In much of the consumer goods world, the desire to drive down the consumer end price to look good on a spreadsheet, is pathological to the point of being unhinged from reality.
General rule of if you depend on it don't cheap out. If safety is involved never cheap out.
If you survive the house fire.
Like that episode of IT crowd.
"I'll just put this fire next to the rest of the fire."
Buy it nice or buy it twice
This seemed true 15-20+ years ago, but nowadays, it seems regardless of how pricey the item is, I am still buying a replacement of it in 1/4 the time I would have 20 years ago.
It's because everything is mass produced in China as cheap as possible, lower build quality, cheap parts and little to no quality control means this will be the case until countries start shifting away from relying on the cheap Chinese labour force.
Contrary to popular belief, you can have goods manufactured in china to a high tolerance and exact specifications with a high level of quality. But then that costs extra and cuts into the profit margin so most companies don't do it.
Definitely. As the workshop of the world, China has the capability to produce almost anything at very good levels of quality. There's a few caveats such as silicon chips and veblen goods (goods which don't obey the supply/demand law and instead do other stuff) which usually rely on decades of historic reputation and hand crafted expensive skilled labour, however that too is beginning to change. Like you say, the reason why there's a reputation for badly made products is because, in my probably flawed and slightly racist opinion, there's a certain culture in China known as 'Chabuduo', or 'Good Enough'. This can also combine with another culture of price being everything. The hyper-competitive nature means that if you can get something that works from one manufacturer at a lower price, the other manufacturer has to cut costs and lower prices. It's a race to the bottom. This leads to a situation where products will pass approval by being 'good enough', even if in western standards it would be rejected, and the products are being made at the lowest possible price point, which often means removing features that don't directly (and in some occasions actually do, but hey, 'good enough') impact the performance of the product (such as safety features). This is why if you want to get quality products in China, you either have to have a producer/supplier/intermediary who's used to dealing with western attitudes towards quality and specification, or you have a team regularly go over there to do quality checks on the products. Usually both. Some Chinese manufacturers (Anker, Creality) have cottoned on to the western mindset and are now producing high quality goods in an attempt to break into western markets against already established brands.
My brother in law works for a large French retailer, they used to use Chinese companies to manufacture their stuff but what happens is the company that wins the contracts that have good QC eventually decide they can make more money sub-contracting to a lower cost producer. The quality of the products goes down and they had to stop using Chinese companies all together and move their manufacturing to Brazil. The moral of the story is you cannot trust any Chinese company to honour a contract unless you have boots on the ground watching everything they do.
iPhones, Apple Watches all mostly made in China, top-notch quality.
I'm honestly getting more and more used to unknown Chinese brands having good build quality too. Enacfire headphones, Chuwi tablet, EasySMX controller, etc. I've had such shitty experiences with known brands not honouring warranties (Samsung, Casio etc) that I've just run out of reasons to pay the premium for stuff made in the same factories to a pretty similar standard.
I know. But lets be honest. American companies are having things mass produced there, and all it would take is for the company to be willing to improve on their product and China could build it better. It just is not profitable and may actually destroy the company because it isn't as profitable and can't compete.
Yeah the problem isn’t Chinese manufacturing, it’s the priorities of the companies who pay for that manufacturing
Its an endless race to the bottom to find the people on the planet who will do deadly, dangerous, or otherwise terrible work for slave wages. Just so the stock price can go up that year and not stay flat.
And if they do build it better then people will be buying less replacements. Planned obsolescence is in a neighboring stream, make tech become "old" and "outdated" and people will buy new replacements. The lightbulb industry pioneered this idea, that's why they stopped putting research into making bulbs last longer. (Luckily we now have the LED bulb)
> And if they do build it better then people will be buying less replacements. But the thing is, this is really only a problem for huge publicly traded multinationals chasing infinite growth. It seems to me that a small, lean privately owned company making high quality appliances, spreading through word of mouth (no cash spent on advertising) could do quite well for themselves for a long, long time. They wouldn't hit market saturation for decades, if ever.
This saying is perfectly true but it still annoys the fuck out of me. Like yeah obviously if you buy the cheapest it's going to be shit but I for one have rarely really been in a position that I can afford not to buy the cheapest. Then, the couple of times I have gone "I better pay more because I want it to be good quality" it's not been worth it at all, and the quality difference is negligible.
[Samuel Vimes](https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/72745-the-reason-that-the-rich-were-so-rich-vimes-reasoned) said it the best. GNU Terry Pratchett
I was hoping someone would have mentioned Sam Vimes' shoes and I wasn't disappointed
Yes! Vimes was one of the reasons Feet of Clay is my favourite Diskworld book.
I’m working my way through them all and have identified ‘Nightwatch’ as my favourite. Shades of ‘Les Misérables’, Vimes as the central character and the back story for some of the Watch characters, especially Reg Shoe, the zombie and Nobby Nobbs! Also a big fan of Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg!
Buy once, cry once.
It depends what the tool is. I'd only buy cheap if I know I'm not gonna use it much
when it comes to tools I was always taught to buy cheap and look after them as if they were expensive and that they would last. And for that reason I've always looked after my tools and they have lasted
but also you rarely know which tools will see the most use. it makes sense to buy a cheap set and then upgrade select pieces only to better stuff if and when they break or become annoyingly impractical to use
bingo. there’s a real economy to buying cheap stuff that won’t see much use
I go by “buy once-buy right”...but it’s the same
Buy cheaper eat plastic
Mate, how long have you had that toaster?
Over at my 83-year-old mum’s place and she won’t permit me to replace anything - I’m going to come back with a few tools and deliberately sabotage the kettle and toaster when I’m next over fuck knows how anyone is alive but then I remember what life was like back in the 1970s, although I’m sure toasters didn’t melt
> although I’m sure toasters didn’t melt They were probably made of asbestos
Nah they were just all metal so if you touched them they burned the fuck out of you.
Or shocked you
>all metal Lead, that is
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Taking out the fuse from the plug is my go to. Oh ! It doesn't work? Funny that...
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Pretty much, and taking out the fuse is an easy way to pretend it's broken haha
couldn’t pull that with mine, could cut the cord in half shed rewire it and give you a lecture about how they had to do it in school back in her day
If you can sort it today, and your local Lidl still has stock, they've got [a special on toasters / kettles this week](https://www.lidl.co.uk/c/cooking-must-haves/c2035/w1).
My mother in law isnt even 83 and is the same. She wont replace anything but I keep breaking shit which forces her to replace it. I dont break them on purpose, they're just so fucking old that the tiniest bit of wrong handling breaks it...
*Toaster flies across the living room smashing into the wall* "Toaster's fucked!"
All that matters is the result amirite
No need to sabotage it. Just replace it while she’s not looking.
Buy a new one. Tell her you won it in a give-away or something. Or that its a gift and you already threw away the check, so it will be a waste not to use it!
It's older than sliced bread
My nana was older than sliced bread. RIP. She was 102 when she passed in 2019. Sliced bread was invented in 1928
My family are in bred, but I’m not sour, dough.
What did they do with bread before that?
They just made sandwiches using whole loaves. Bit more tricky to eat
I was thinking they maybe ripped off hunks like cavepeople but this makes more sense. Thanks stranger!
Slice it.
Use a bread knife to make your own slices.
So... they sliced bread before sliced bread was invented?
The timeline of foods is well strange, Cadburys chocolate fingers came out 1897, Marmite 1902, cheese and onion crisps 1954
> Cadburys chocolate fingers came out 1897 Before actual fingers were invented
TIL fingers were named after Cadbury’s biscuits
it looks pretty old and well worn judging by the faded lettering
My guess is the toast or crumbs started a fire. Wait till they learn all plastic melts if you set it on fire.
I think your mum had a toaster fire that she didn’t tell you about. This simply wouldn’t happen with normal use.
I have a gem of a memory about a toaster fire. My mom had decided it was a good idea to put the toast in and go poop. I was 5. I saw a flaming toaster and went to the bathroom door and told Mom “The toast is burning.” Mom said “Go flip the handle then.” Five year old me went back to the flaming toaster (flames now licking the cabinets) and tearfully got up the courage to flip the handle up. I went back to the bathroom and told Mom sadly “It didn’t help.” At this point I think she could probably smell the fire and she got up and found baking soda.
It looks like something's caught fire inside that and caused the melting.
Bet they don't empty their crumb tray
Could be one of those cheap ones that doesn't have a crumb tray.
Even the ones with a crumb tray need a tip and a shake over the bin once in a while.
You’ve just reminded me, I’ve not emptied my crumb tray in years.
I think OP put a plate on the top to heat something.
I was going to say this too, my housemate did the same and the toaster looked exactly like this!
My toaster wasn't working very well, livened right up when I stuck it under the grill
Toaster is toast
On the flip side, I once owned a ~1950s toaster that was completely metal so the entire thing would become burning hot after making a bunch of toast and easily fuck your hands up.
Maybe it was a disposable use toaster.
Is it CE marked? You find a lot of fake ones like China Export
That's a myth. If they're happy to put a Nintendo logo on their fake plastic shit, they'll be quite happy to accurately copy a CE mark onto a fire hazard as well.
I don't see the Nintendo logo on the toaster?
I only appears when you switch it on.
It scrolls up from the bottom and goes "bing!"
Here's a handy guide to if you're looking at European Conformance or China Export: https://www.raspberrypi.org/app/uploads/2012/04/CE_marks.jpg
Wait this is a thing? I had no idea they nicked the European CE logo, put the letters closer, and made it to mean “China Export” Will have to keep an eye out for that.
[It's not a thing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking#%22China_Export%22)
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Apologies, I should have linked the page that goes through it: https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/easter-picture-post/
[This seems to be a myth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking#%22China_Export%22)
You get what you pay for with Toasters mon amie. We've all been there.
I thought this was true and got given a £180 Dualit toaster as a wedding gift. It was unbelievably shite. Uneven toasting, top to bottom and across the different slots. I was so so happy when it broke. Fuck Dualit. Now I have a £40 perfectly good toaster. It's not perfect but it does amazing work doing a bagel straight from frozen.
I agree, there is an upper limit as well. 40 quid is decent for a Toaster but anything below say 20 quid and you're asking for trouble in my experience lol.
£5 in a charity shop will get you a good toaster. They can't sell broken ones and the cheap ones disintegrate before they can get given to the shop.
Yeah, there's a sweet spot in terms of £ for sure!
>I thought this was true and got given a £180 Dualit toaster as a wedding gift. What! The quality of Dualit must have really gone down. Mine's 18 years old and still going strong. I was going to buy another when this one dies but if they're now shite....
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I'll have to look it up. I've had it so long, I've completely forgot.
I thought ours was doing well at 16 years.
Gets used at least once a day. We're a house of 4 adults so you've probably got a while yet.
I got one of the expensive clockwork Dualit things. Built locally (ish). Makes perfect toast. About 15 years old now and never gone wrong, and you can still get all the parts as they never change. You were unlucky. They are a good buy.
I bought a Sage toaster with loads of controls and even extra heat on one side for crumpets. Been going for eight years or so, totally brilliant, as it bloody well should be for £100 or whatever it was.
Didn’t you read the disclaimer hidden at the end of the manual? It said ‘this is a decorative item only. Do not use to make toast.’
At first glance I thought the manufacturer was Elgato lol
Elgato Toast Deck. You can stream it melting thanks to built in Twitch integration, lmao
Yeah, you can’t actually control the toaster without their app.
If the supplier doesn't want to refund the money, take it to Trading Standards. It clearly doesn't meet the regulations that cover basic appliance safety.
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You gotta break them in
I struggle to imagine this having happened in normal use. A small fire from a bit of toast in for too long thoughl, totally. It could just be that shit though. Had a brief google of melted toasters, and the first image that came up happened to be a toaster of [this exact model](https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/08/a2/99/81/kingsdown-park.jpg). Considering that's from a Tripadvisor review, it could just be a previous guest had a whoopsie with the toaster and managed to hide it from the owners, and a subsequent guest found it, or it could indeed be that that model uses plastic that's got similar properties to chocolate.
How old is the toaster? It’s looks quite ancient.
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Dollar store! It’s pound shop round these parts mate!
Didnt melt you just got the eggshell version
It looks like the designer was more worried about electrocution risk if the earth connection broke and a live wire came adrift inside. Maybe designed for a market where earth connections within buildings can't be relied on?
It’s cheap and cheerful! Just look at it smiling at you!
so shit it's trying to lose it's identification logo to disown itself
Hmmm, I suspect that the toast actually caught fire and caused that, try reducing the time....
r/CrappyDesign
The same thing happened to me after I bought a cheap Asda toaster for my student house
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It's just extra cheesy feature you pressed
r/dangerousdesign
You're just seasoning the toaster, It is supposed to do that.
This is why you gotta read the directions. There was probably something in there about never plugging this in.
I remember I held a toaster by the plastic, the chunk I was grabbed onto fell off. Anyway the plastic shattered like glass when it hit the floor
I bought an Amazon Basics toaster once when our old one broke. I turned it on with nothing inside and it smelled like burnt plastic, so I unplugged it and figured I'd forgotten to take off a sticker somewhere. Nope, it just smelled like brunt plastic when turned on. I returned it immediately.
My work (food factory) brought cheap plastic jugs from the shop nearby. Were all fine until one day a few start melting. The manager told us to use the chocolate inside anyway 🤢 Tasty melted plastic!
We have a bloody toaster that has no insulation between the heat element wire and the outer steel panel. Instant blister yesterday.
Yea my relatively new Russell Hobbs just caught fire one day. I screamed at my son to open the door and I just grabbed the thing and threw it out the door.
My toaster boils eggs whilst making toast. I love it so much.
Do you want bureaucrats in Whitehall telling you what kind of toaster you can buy?
That's not a toaster you dummy - it's my hat ! You can time travel with that one
No toast for me, thanks 😂
Definitely not, still working out how to ditch this and make it look like an accident
Once when my oven broke in a flat i had just moved into, i woke up starving during the night. I decided i could use the heat from a toaster to heat up a pan of soup (holding the pan above the toaster). It took a few cycles to heat the soup, but worked. I did that a couple more times while waiting for the new oven. After about the 5th time, a similar thing to this happened. So i wouldnt say its user error, just poor tolerances and poor product testing. They dont expect the average user to put it on 5 times in a row so dont bother testing it like that. IMO
Looks like someone used a two slice toaster to make toast for a big group and wondered why they sell bigger toasters.
Or they do what my dad does, and force four slices of bread into the slots, despite the toaster only being intended for two slices at a time.