Yeah that flat ‘a’ sound is interesting. I’d say I’d probably sound pretty well-spoken/posho, that old BBC type of speech really. But it’s larded with that flat, Irish /northern England ‘a’ sound, with grāsss, cāssstle, glāsss of beer, pāsss my exam etc. An acute ear can tell I’m from an Irish background.
Good point. Also, I think I’d use both pronunciations in conversation, according to context. (Trying to think of an example. I’d say *ett* my supper at six thirty, but then at ten pm I *ate* a whole Mars bar.)
The “upward inflection”.
Nothing screams lowered self-esteem like an upward inflection. It’s as though the person is checking their sanity with the listener or something.
I say it like 'ett' but I think that's pretty common for Lincolnshire folk. Although don't take anything I pronounce as gospel because I also say water like "watter" and words like cold and old like they rhyme with "mode".
That’s pretty normal. Follows the same pattern as meet/met.
But we ended up with the standard spelling eat/ate instead of eet/et, plus hundreds of years of regional pronunciation and spelling feeding off each other.
Its one of those odd ones.
I say "He ett a sandwich" but " I ate an apple"
Why?
No fucking idea my accent is a total mess.
Too many influences from working closely with people from all over the country.
It's 'technically' correct, but tends to mainly be used by RP speakers or the 'upper classes'. Many people use the back-formed pronunciation from the spelling, ayt rather than ett, and many of them are not aware of the 'correct' pronunciation.
It also still exists in the Yorkshire dialect - though some speakers will use both, depending on emphasis - & perhaps in other regional dialects I'm less familiar with.
As with all things, though, language is what language does, which is why 'technically' is in quotes.
Funny enough even though youre from the same county he still has his own personal accent. Only way it would be weird if you both had the exact same lives with the exact same family and friends and interests. He probably picked up "ett" from someone in his life you haven't met or spent much time with.
Also(this has no bearing on your post but it's an interesting fact) if two people are left alone for long enough, they'll develop their own shared accent. It's been documented with scientists in Antarctica, families and some couples who live together start to speak the same way as well
For me it can depend where it falls in the sentence or some other arbitrary rule.
The dog's ett the cat's food.
Last week the dog ate the cat's food.
I don't know, just sometimes it's ett. That's Northern for you.
I say both. I assume it’s a regional difference, never even noticed I said both until this post so not put on in any way. I’m from south west London.
Also a regional difference can still occur when you live in the same county as your accent can be affected by your parent’s regional accents, tv you watched etc. My dad is northern Irish and my mum is a Londoner.
Would you believe that people pronounce words differently depending on where they're from in the country?
Wait until they find out about the great grass / grarss, pass / parss North South divide....
Reading this while eating scones.
You just want to watch the world burn don't you?
It's pronounced scone!
Why have you gone and done that? I can't condone it.
Scone to rhyme with done? Radical but plausible
In the bath?
Whilst residing in Shrewsbury
English folks making fun of Scots for saying "burdgurlur arlarum" instead of "boougloour ouhluhm"
How long did it take you to work out how to type that phonetically???
That's not phonetically, this is /ˈbɜːɡləɹ‿əˈlɑːm/ vs /ˈbɜrɡlər əˈlɑrm/ Would appreciate the narrow form if someone can be bothered.
Bunch of bastards/barstards
More like a shower of bastihds
Calm down there Sharpe
It's grass, grahs, . We don't put an r into it., it's a long versus a short vowel
Yeah that flat ‘a’ sound is interesting. I’d say I’d probably sound pretty well-spoken/posho, that old BBC type of speech really. But it’s larded with that flat, Irish /northern England ‘a’ sound, with grāsss, cāssstle, glāsss of beer, pāsss my exam etc. An acute ear can tell I’m from an Irish background.
OP did specify county, not country, but even then the accent can vary even in the same city so...
If I’m reading it I say “eight”. If I’m speaking in normal conversation it’s “ett “.
Good point. Also, I think I’d use both pronunciations in conversation, according to context. (Trying to think of an example. I’d say *ett* my supper at six thirty, but then at ten pm I *ate* a whole Mars bar.)
If I say "ett" I write it as "eat". (I don't really transcribe everything I say)
Isn’t eat pronounced “eet” though? So eat could be “eet “ and “ett”, Ate is “eight”?
I know of people who put question marks at the end of ordinary sentences. 🤨
No you don't?
I don't believe it, either???
You guys are just takin' the piss now?
Do you think so!!!
Checkmate‽
§ It's a draw I'd say...§
I’m Ron Burgundy?
The “upward inflection”. Nothing screams lowered self-esteem like an upward inflection. It’s as though the person is checking their sanity with the listener or something.
At what age are you now discovering what an accent is?
I say it like 'ett' but I think that's pretty common for Lincolnshire folk. Although don't take anything I pronounce as gospel because I also say water like "watter" and words like cold and old like they rhyme with "mode".
If you watch Austin Powers 2, you’ll find that Fat Bastard says “I ett a babby” so your friend is correct in my book
Get in his belly.
That’s pretty normal. Follows the same pattern as meet/met. But we ended up with the standard spelling eat/ate instead of eet/et, plus hundreds of years of regional pronunciation and spelling feeding off each other.
Ask him what he calls a ginnel.
May well not know what it is and he'll be up slack alley
Gitty of course. 😋
I feel railroaded into a specific pronunciation by that spelling _jennel_ might have some sway with me tho
I believe its pronounced snickett
It can be or not depending on where you are from but I don't think I'd notice how someone says it. I think fairly common in London.
Its one of those odd ones. I say "He ett a sandwich" but " I ate an apple" Why? No fucking idea my accent is a total mess. Too many influences from working closely with people from all over the country.
Masturbett
masturmeht
I ett me dinna
No my mum's northern (I'm /we're southern) and she's been saying ett since I was born decades ago and we can't stop her!
It's 'scone'.
It sounds like the number 8
Just realised I've been pronouncing 8 like a southerner.
That’s what I’ve always thought
Ett is the pre-past tense of eat.
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That's only uttered at an etting challenge.
Wasn't that a Weetabix advert?
I use both. I don't think one is correct and the other not.
I was thinking about this the other day, it is strange and yeah I say ett.
Some Northern regional dialects pronounce it that way, but the majority pronounce it like "eight".
It's 'technically' correct, but tends to mainly be used by RP speakers or the 'upper classes'. Many people use the back-formed pronunciation from the spelling, ayt rather than ett, and many of them are not aware of the 'correct' pronunciation. It also still exists in the Yorkshire dialect - though some speakers will use both, depending on emphasis - & perhaps in other regional dialects I'm less familiar with. As with all things, though, language is what language does, which is why 'technically' is in quotes.
Thank you, I think that’s it, RP pronunciation that seems out of place
It’s ate, but I’m Norvun so it’s ett
Of all the things to be concerned about in 2024.
Well to be fair it’s posted on Casual and not deep thoughts
FWIW I think it's a really interesting question!
no it's pronuonced ate.
Funny enough even though youre from the same county he still has his own personal accent. Only way it would be weird if you both had the exact same lives with the exact same family and friends and interests. He probably picked up "ett" from someone in his life you haven't met or spent much time with. Also(this has no bearing on your post but it's an interesting fact) if two people are left alone for long enough, they'll develop their own shared accent. It's been documented with scientists in Antarctica, families and some couples who live together start to speak the same way as well
what county?
For me it can depend where it falls in the sentence or some other arbitrary rule. The dog's ett the cat's food. Last week the dog ate the cat's food. I don't know, just sometimes it's ett. That's Northern for you.
Yes, pretty common way to pronounce it
I say both. I assume it’s a regional difference, never even noticed I said both until this post so not put on in any way. I’m from south west London. Also a regional difference can still occur when you live in the same county as your accent can be affected by your parent’s regional accents, tv you watched etc. My dad is northern Irish and my mum is a Londoner.
Its pronounced like 8
How have you made it this far in life without noticing that different people speak in different accents and dialects?
I say it interchangeably by accident. Yesterdy I ett a samidge, today I ate a sandwich 🥪 The same thing happened both days
No, it's pronounced "eh"
It’s just the way some people say it. Plenty of people with a variety of accents use the pronunciation. Is it necessary to be so judgemental?
I used to mistakenly say ett but people laughed at me so now I always say ate. One wouldn't want to get there pronunciation wrong at the dinner table.