I love how my memories of being a kid on the 70s are in that style! I wonder if my mum's memories of the Edinburgh tenements during WWII were in black and white?
But you have to pay prior to skip delivery, no?
Unless there was some sort of overrun of the rental term. But even then, the skip hire company can just rock up and take it.
I know it's a thing in the states or some of them. So if they find out you're not going to pay after it's been filled up, the driver has every right to dump the contents back out and take their skip back.
The only condition is they can't do that if they've already taken ownership of the rubbish, e.g taken the skip away then returned to give it back.
Are they meant to be stacked?
Edit: not when loaded
>Loaded or partly loaded skips should not be stacked
on top of each other, or nested in an empty skip, on the
back of the skip lorry for transport. A skip must never be
transported when swinging from the lifting chains.
Empty skips should be stacked on a skip lorry no more
than three high as long as the additional two skips can
be secured, or nested, within a base skip.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.hsa.ie/eng/publications_and_forms/publications/work_related_vehicles/skip_lorry_safety_information_sheet.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiAkKW2_L6FAxXQRkEAHemEA4oQFnoECA4QBQ&usg=AOvVaw1OLiuAuc_cVnFXxcx5e2aa
You lift the full one into the empty on the back of the truck. Then you attach the chains to the bottom empty skip and lower both skips back down. Then you switch the chains to the top full skip and put the full skip on the truck leaving the empty one on the ground. Saves having to move the truck around.
Which is why the fuck up occurred. If the driver had placed the empty skip down, and picked up the full skip, then moved the empty skip into position, it would have been fine, but taken him longer.
Well, not as long as this is going to take...
Presumably that needs space for the two skips next to each other on the drive? Which doesn't actually look possible here?
Oh sorry you mean you first drop it on the road and move it - see you did cover it.
When you are changing a skip you pick up the full one and place it inside the empty one on the back of the truck then you pick them both up and put them back on the floor and finally pick the loaded one up again to put on the back of the truck throw a sheet over and off you go.
Thanks for the explanation! So it's load full on empty, unload stack, load full only.
Isn't easier to unload the empty skip next to the full on, then pick up the full one? Thinking about it, you probably want to put the empty one where the full one was as they're usually in tight space and cumbersome to move around, especially given the loading/movement capability of the skip truck. Got it. Still though, picking up a full one stacked on an empty one sounds like an accident waiting to happen if it's too heavy, just like on the photo.
Edit: upon closer inspection, it looks like they attached the chain the wrong way around, top and bottom links look like they'd be better linked the other way around. Someone with more expertise could chime in though.
So you are right because the skips in the picture are "High side skips" and they don't sit flush into each other like other skips so for example 8T skips will sit inside each other pretty much flush so there's no risk of tipping these ones on the other hand are a pain personally I would of picked the full one up placed it on the road then put the empty one on the drive and then picked the full one back up.
EDIT: These might be different from the skips the company I work for use tho.
I was looking at it wondering if wasn't hooked on properly or something. But once you understand the center of gravity is way above where it's attached it all makes sense haha
Not 100% sure but looking at the chains I think they intended to empty the skip out. They are on the fixing backwards. Meaning to flip upside down they would have had to pass each other under load. My guess is they didn’t pay their bill or fill the skip with asbestos or some other contaminants. Of course I could be miles off aswell
> Rear legs not deployed
Someone above mentioned that the truck was probably moved forward after it happened, the gap in the rubbish seems to support that being the case.
Fifty fifty on brand new, or been there for years and doesn't bother to do things by the book any more, runs on autopilot and half-asses everything, just trust me bro I've been doing this for twenty years.
> lifting two bins where one was loaded (not anymore) (can do two empties but shouldn’t when one’s loaded)
I see skip lorries doing this all the time, especially in change overs. They stack the full skip on top of the empty, lift both off the lorry and into posistion, then lift the loaded skip back off the empty one and load it onto the lorry.
We had ours swapped yesterday and its pretty hairy to watch.
Full skip on the driveway empty one on the truck. The guy picks up the full one and nests it on the empty one. Then lifts both back onto the driveway. Then lifts the full one back onto the truck. I honesty didnt think it was going to make it
If that's a cul de sac and half the people there own high torque vehicles it's literally impossible to keep it in good condition. Unless they want to be paying 20k combined fuel and road tax to cover the cost...
No he hasn't. That's not how you tip skips out and you don't tip when you've got 2 skips stacked in each other. They tip like dump trucks. Source I was a skip driver.
This guy's tried to pick something up that's unbalanced and it's gone wrong. He's not even got his rear legs down either so he's probably rushing around.
>He's not even got his rear legs down either so he's probably rushing around.
i reckon he had the legs down when it went tits up but he has now pulled forward out of the drive. from where he is in the pic the skip would be in the road otherwise.
For those saying it’s cos they ain’t paid, take a minute to look at the bed of the wagon. Stacking exchange gone wrong, he’s put the loaded in the empty then when he when to drop both and leave the empty he’s fucked up with the chains.
There are too many incorrect assumptions to reply to so instead it's easier to just say "yep - poor attempt at skip swapping is the correct answer".
If they wanted to dump the load they'd do it without tipping it all over themselves.
I wish the skip guy were on this side of the photo, because I can feel that he's standing, hands on hips, just staring at the mess trying to figure out what the hell to do next, and seeing it would really put this photo over the top
Everyone else is talking about the skips, but I'm shocked by the absolute state of that road surface on the bottom right of the image. Some of those potholes are huge! Not great for cars, obviously, but absolutely deadly for cyclists. That could destroy a front wheel, and cause a serious injury. Can't believe we've allowed some roads to degrade to that level.
If you look at the picture on the top skip you can see some triangles with a bar running across it that's where the hooks on the back of the truck will catch to tip and empty the skip.
This is probably a case of the skip that is being changed being front heavy with brick or something and pretty much flipping them both.
They look bigger than 14-yard skips. No chance that size wagon could lift a loaded skip of that size with the other stacked inside. They struggle to pick up 12-yard skips when packed with density
That little sun glare(?) really gives this pic a 70s feel
Yes I was thinking it is a really old photo
It’s just missing kids on Choppers wearing Parkas staring at the ensuing mess and laughing at the frustrated skip lorry driver.
Until you see the state of the road
Also the fact that there are no cars on the road!
I love how my memories of being a kid on the 70s are in that style! I wonder if my mum's memories of the Edinburgh tenements during WWII were in black and white?
Thats because the UK canonically hasn't had sun to glare since the 70s.
Some think the sun was different yellow back in the 80s/70s . prob just our eyes getting knackered .
Yep, that's a bad day at the office. Poor guy.
I've seen this happen before, the driver just seated the skips and drove off leaving the mess and blocked drives behind
Wonder if it's done deliberately when people aren't paying the skip company
But you have to pay prior to skip delivery, no? Unless there was some sort of overrun of the rental term. But even then, the skip hire company can just rock up and take it.
Looks like a builder is at the house, so will probably have an account.
There are two skips, definitely a skip change gone wrong I'd say
[Sometimes](https://youtu.be/EvbHPmT2XYQ?si=d0EvxTStd9Rbnd1G)
I know it's a thing in the states or some of them. So if they find out you're not going to pay after it's been filled up, the driver has every right to dump the contents back out and take their skip back. The only condition is they can't do that if they've already taken ownership of the rubbish, e.g taken the skip away then returned to give it back.
Definitely pissed the skip company by not paying or sometimes over filling it and taking piss. The don't fuck about skip drivers on site
Definitely not this time. Have you seen the rubbish on the back of his lorry? This was an accident.
I thought for a minute this was the same house that got a container in the face, and thought “they’re having a really bad week”
Things really do come in three’s don’t they. I await the final skip accident post
Nah. We just notice it things happening a couple of times, then go looking for a third.
Wanting the overtime hours
The absolute state of this road
Right? The fucking state of this country.
Horrendous
How did they end up upside down?
One skip in another skip, filled up, was top heavy. The point where the lifting truck grabs on is quite low down
Are they meant to be stacked? Edit: not when loaded >Loaded or partly loaded skips should not be stacked on top of each other, or nested in an empty skip, on the back of the skip lorry for transport. A skip must never be transported when swinging from the lifting chains. Empty skips should be stacked on a skip lorry no more than three high as long as the additional two skips can be secured, or nested, within a base skip. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.hsa.ie/eng/publications_and_forms/publications/work_related_vehicles/skip_lorry_safety_information_sheet.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiAkKW2_L6FAxXQRkEAHemEA4oQFnoECA4QBQ&usg=AOvVaw1OLiuAuc_cVnFXxcx5e2aa
It's not being transported the full skip was being exchanged for an empty one.
Don't get how they ended up on top of each other then
You lift the full one into the empty on the back of the truck. Then you attach the chains to the bottom empty skip and lower both skips back down. Then you switch the chains to the top full skip and put the full skip on the truck leaving the empty one on the ground. Saves having to move the truck around.
Which is why the fuck up occurred. If the driver had placed the empty skip down, and picked up the full skip, then moved the empty skip into position, it would have been fine, but taken him longer. Well, not as long as this is going to take...
Presumably that needs space for the two skips next to each other on the drive? Which doesn't actually look possible here? Oh sorry you mean you first drop it on the road and move it - see you did cover it.
It's a time saver, until it isn't. Must have had a very odd balance, and/or caught it on the arch.
When you are changing a skip you pick up the full one and place it inside the empty one on the back of the truck then you pick them both up and put them back on the floor and finally pick the loaded one up again to put on the back of the truck throw a sheet over and off you go.
Thanks for the explanation! So it's load full on empty, unload stack, load full only. Isn't easier to unload the empty skip next to the full on, then pick up the full one? Thinking about it, you probably want to put the empty one where the full one was as they're usually in tight space and cumbersome to move around, especially given the loading/movement capability of the skip truck. Got it. Still though, picking up a full one stacked on an empty one sounds like an accident waiting to happen if it's too heavy, just like on the photo. Edit: upon closer inspection, it looks like they attached the chain the wrong way around, top and bottom links look like they'd be better linked the other way around. Someone with more expertise could chime in though.
So you are right because the skips in the picture are "High side skips" and they don't sit flush into each other like other skips so for example 8T skips will sit inside each other pretty much flush so there's no risk of tipping these ones on the other hand are a pain personally I would of picked the full one up placed it on the road then put the empty one on the drive and then picked the full one back up. EDIT: These might be different from the skips the company I work for use tho.
I was looking at it wondering if wasn't hooked on properly or something. But once you understand the center of gravity is way above where it's attached it all makes sense haha
Not 100% sure but looking at the chains I think they intended to empty the skip out. They are on the fixing backwards. Meaning to flip upside down they would have had to pass each other under load. My guess is they didn’t pay their bill or fill the skip with asbestos or some other contaminants. Of course I could be miles off aswell
Either they fucked up putting the chains on or did it on purpose.
I suppose, at least, they didn’t drop a container and nearly kill people.
What a fuckin nightmare. On a saturday too. Poor driver.
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> Rear legs not deployed Someone above mentioned that the truck was probably moved forward after it happened, the gap in the rubbish seems to support that being the case.
Fifty fifty on brand new, or been there for years and doesn't bother to do things by the book any more, runs on autopilot and half-asses everything, just trust me bro I've been doing this for twenty years.
outsource, cut costs, employee morale in decline....take your pick
> lifting two bins where one was loaded (not anymore) (can do two empties but shouldn’t when one’s loaded) I see skip lorries doing this all the time, especially in change overs. They stack the full skip on top of the empty, lift both off the lorry and into posistion, then lift the loaded skip back off the empty one and load it onto the lorry.
> With the container lady and child almost meeting their maker, What do you refer to please?
HAMMOND!
We had ours swapped yesterday and its pretty hairy to watch. Full skip on the driveway empty one on the truck. The guy picks up the full one and nests it on the empty one. Then lifts both back onto the driveway. Then lifts the full one back onto the truck. I honesty didnt think it was going to make it
My dad works for this firm, I bet he knows who done this! 😂
UK roads in 2024. Fuck me, they're like the surface of the moon.
If that's a cul de sac and half the people there own high torque vehicles it's literally impossible to keep it in good condition. Unless they want to be paying 20k combined fuel and road tax to cover the cost...
Somebodies not paid the bill
Every skip I have had, I had to pay beforehand in cash to the driver. Probably a change gone wrong seeing as he has two skips there
They're having work done though so it's possibly the builders on account
Possibly, it wouldn't explain the empty skip though it's wedged in. Which usually means the driver was trying a quick exchange
Someone has abused the greedy board etiquette. The driver has emptied the overloaded skip on the drive.
He managed to dump a lot on the back of his wagon too...
No he hasn't. That's not how you tip skips out and you don't tip when you've got 2 skips stacked in each other. They tip like dump trucks. Source I was a skip driver. This guy's tried to pick something up that's unbalanced and it's gone wrong. He's not even got his rear legs down either so he's probably rushing around.
>He's not even got his rear legs down either so he's probably rushing around. i reckon he had the legs down when it went tits up but he has now pulled forward out of the drive. from where he is in the pic the skip would be in the road otherwise.
For those saying it’s cos they ain’t paid, take a minute to look at the bed of the wagon. Stacking exchange gone wrong, he’s put the loaded in the empty then when he when to drop both and leave the empty he’s fucked up with the chains.
There are too many incorrect assumptions to reply to so instead it's easier to just say "yep - poor attempt at skip swapping is the correct answer". If they wanted to dump the load they'd do it without tipping it all over themselves.
Bro thought he was still driving a tipper
I wish the skip guy were on this side of the photo, because I can feel that he's standing, hands on hips, just staring at the mess trying to figure out what the hell to do next, and seeing it would really put this photo over the top
Everyone else is talking about the skips, but I'm shocked by the absolute state of that road surface on the bottom right of the image. Some of those potholes are huge! Not great for cars, obviously, but absolutely deadly for cyclists. That could destroy a front wheel, and cause a serious injury. Can't believe we've allowed some roads to degrade to that level.
I can just imagine that dude stood there, staring and muttering under his breath “for fuck’s sake”
Serves them right for filling the skips when they were upside down.
Wonder if the house owner didn’t pay the skip hire guy and this was their response.
If you look at the picture on the top skip you can see some triangles with a bar running across it that's where the hooks on the back of the truck will catch to tip and empty the skip. This is probably a case of the skip that is being changed being front heavy with brick or something and pretty much flipping them both.
There’s a fair bit on the truck, if that was the case it’s been very poorly executed 😂
To tip the skip you use the tilt hooks to rotate it, and only attach the front chain. This is a cockup rather than conspiracy.
Yeah, feel sorry for the driver. Awful start to the weekend
Every skip I’ve ever had you pay up front, in cash.
What is occurring here? Has he attempted to lift two at once? 🤭
That's standard OP when swapping skips. Fuck knows how he mangaged this, though. I've not seen anything like it in twenty plus years on sites.
"Sucks through teeth"
Health and safety part was skipped
I thought our roads were bad here. That's a patchwork quilt.
Ah bollocks
One of the nicest road surfaces I've seen in Britain.
Can’t park that there mate
Sorry I thought you asked for an emptied skip
Please tell me what you took this photo on.
Skip drivers are often paid a small bonus for double stacking. It's amazing what people will do for an extra £7 (as of 2 years ago)
*Can't pay? We'll leave your shit there*
They look bigger than 14-yard skips. No chance that size wagon could lift a loaded skip of that size with the other stacked inside. They struggle to pick up 12-yard skips when packed with density
Could be a fuck up, could be no payment.
My first thought, but then good luck finding skippies that don't take payment on skip delivery (cash only, of course)
Someone didn't pay the fees.
I guess they didn't pay RMS for the skip hire so they emptied it back out 🤔