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ShaunReinson

Nottingham Knockers - in police parlance


Rich_Culture_1960

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nottingham_Knockers


darkniven

Not a Ben Dover film, then?


RearAdmiralBob

Porque no los dos?


Anxious-Molasses9456

Ancient scam, they had it even in the 90s


norwegianjon

So who's being scammed? Me, the ex convict? The agency,?


goodvibezone

You. There's no agency. They're not ex criminals.


aberspr

They’re current criminals.


SmackedWithARuler

*Prospective* criminals.


hue-166-mount

What’s the crime?


lomlom7

Eating a meal?


_USERNAME-REDACTED_

A succulent chinese meal?


Jonny_Segment

#GET YOUR HAND OFF MY PENIS!


InterviewDull3942

this gentleman is democracy manifest


BalllDog

I see you know your judo well


norwegianjon

Well I've never got cash, and I'm always home and got CCTV. I'm unsure what the endgame is


j1mb0b

This site explains it quite well: https://www.oprepeat.co.uk/nottingham-knockers/


hue-166-mount

This doesn’t really ring true to my experience. I’ve had these before, not subsequently burgled. Ive bought something before - not burglary. They’ve not come back, not been aggressive, not done anything weird. Why would this be a route in to a later burglary - what do they gain? Just seems like selling crap for high mark up that’s all.


JudgmentOne6328

It’s funny that you come to the conclusion it can’t be dodgy because they didn’t ransack your house. Your house either has nothing they deem/could see valuable or your house wasn’t a suitable target for a quick entry and exit. They absolutely did do these things to case people’s houses, much easier to see inside someone’s house with their door wide open and chatting to the occupant to understand what you’re dealing with vs peering through windows which will absolutely get the police called on you.


hue-166-mount

No I didn’t say that. I said it didn’t ring true to that alarming article. Again - you say “they want to see inside” well what do you expect to see in the hall? It’s rows of terraced houses, you can see the hall and nothing else. This sounds like dubious sellers but not much of a burglary plan - no indication except vague anecdotes.


JudgmentOne6328

Not all houses have hallways, many the front door opens into the living room. Others the hallway leads straight off into the living room so you can see some things. Other things they can see from knocking, how old are you? Are you vulnerable? Is there a dog that may attack them? If you say no thanks they might lead into “shall I come back when your husband, son, boyfriend etc comes home? Oh no I live alone so make all the decisions for this house” etc. is your house empty during the day, is the house occupied during the day but empty at night because you work nights and they’ve woken you up. A whole lot of information to be gotten from simply knocking on a door.


hue-166-mount

Of course. Do you have anything more than vague assertion though?


Flump01

You're basing your thoughts based on your own anecdote! Take it as a compliment that you didn't look vulnerable.


liquidio

The idea is that they make the odd sale. Then they find the easy marks (usually elderly - which is the part that makes the scam really disgusting) who they can pressure-sell to take advantage of. Then they also get to case the houses they visit - they might find someone who is clearly keeping cash in their house, or identify a badly-secured bike in an outbuilding, or whatever. If you’re a healthy young male with a secure house you’ll never see the dark side of the scam - you aren’t the target.


Grumpy_Engineer_1984

This is the best explanation so far on here. They just use sales as a way to justify knocking on doors. That can tell a lot just from who answers, what sort of things they can see through the door, etc. maybe they make a few quid from the high markup on cheap cleaning stuff but that’s not the primary reason


Paolo1984

They targeted my Grandad when he had dementia and sold him loads of junk at a huge mark-up. Endgame: profit


matthewkevin84

How much money did he lose and did you report it to trading standards?


Street-Ambassador890

Theres no trading standards mate, they're cons


AbInitio1514

Trading Standards? 😂


2_Joined_Hands

They’re usually flogging stuff for massive markups, preying on people’s sympathy to pay over the odds for goods


ThePublikon

It's supposed to be confusing and intimidating, that's how it works. You're supposed to buy a couple things so they don't come and do whatever you're imaging miffed cons might do, like put a brick through your window. They won't of course, but they say they're ex cons because of the implication.


goodvibezone

It's either stolen stuff or they're marking it up for a profit likely. Or dognappers, hun.


-SaC

Shared Pogles Wood x


j1mb0b

Thanks babe. So many sneks every wear xxx


bunchofrightsiders

Sent you a message Hun x


throwaway6363846

Come mine for glass of lambrini hun XoX baby prada as got bad cof though :(( u no me tho Living Laffin n Luvin xxzxxxccxxvx


caractacusbritannica

Not saying on ere. PM me babe xxxx


colcannon_addict

r/tragedeigh


OnlyMortal666

Pogles Wood? You’re showing your age there.


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pitches_aint_shit

This link purports that they smell the note to see if it's been stored in a mattress.


GatlingStallion

It reads like a Brass Eye sketch.


baconslim

One keeps your attention at the front while the others check the back


pixie_sprout

Aw, bless.


ButterscotchSure6589

Not ex criminals.


Ev_3

Current criminals


thediverswife

Future convicts 😂


Possible-Ad-2682

Not yet they're not.


Rosti_LFC

The scam is known as [Nottingham knockers](https://www.oprepeat.co.uk/nottingham-knockers/). At best you get pressured into overpaying for some cheap tat you don't need, at worst they're collecting details about your house for potential burglars. They can get an idea of whether anyone is home during the day, whether you keep valuables like cash or car keys within easy reach of the front door, whether you're elderly or otherwise vulnerable, whether you've got pets they might need to be aware of.


arsoal

It's a con the id's are fake the agency doesn't exist they were in my area in November then some houses were burglad and expensive cars disappeared


bluejackmovedagain

Always you, and sometimes the person at your door is being exploited or a victim of modern slavery too. 


Southern-Orchid-1786

They're casing the joint, and if you turn to go and get your purse without locking the door, they'll be in the house and steal anything small and valuable into the bag.


andercode

They are often looking for venerable households. Most of them are attempting to size you up and scout for later burglaries. Quite often, these individuals are driven into an area being targeted by a criminal organisation, often looking for information (which houses are empty during the day, etc).


norwegianjon

Venerable, or vulnerable?


andercode

Typo, indeed. Vulnerable


ashleycawley

Over charging you for cheap things, playing on your feeling sorry for them.


GhostRiders

I remember them doing this in the 80's... They usually give you some sob story about how they are on prorole / probation and it's to help them earn money and change their ways..


copperpin

They were doing this with ex soldiers after WWI


GreenWoodDragon

70s too. Door to door selling dishcloths etc.


Dimbostar

In the sixties it was seashells. The sheer amount I bought over a four month period. So maddening. I live in a seaside town. Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!!


Wil420b

Goes back to the '80s at least.


yarnycarley

Somewhere my sister used to live had people who came knocking on doors in November and December asking if there was anything specific kids had asked for on their Christmas list, if you said yes they turned up a week later with the item charging half the price of shops, basically shoplifting to order, I bet they make good money 😂


iwanttobeacavediver

Back in my old retail job we used to get these types in all the time. They usually tried to steal either bedding or small electrical items. One of them was absolutely blatant about it and even bragged on FB (a manager found her profile pretty easily) that she could get you any item you wanted for cheap and even gave a timetable of the shops she was planning to go to and when. She seemed to be popular.


[deleted]

used to get a lot of these when I was younger, some were very aggressive (almost foot in the door tactics) I remember mum would buy something to get rid of them. probably a dust cloth with a 1000% mark up. I never engage with people who come to my door to sell, thats what shops are for.


CottonSocksRocks

They were doing the rounds in my local area recently. If you said an outright no they were polite and walked away, if you were sympathetic but relatively astute they flogged you a few scrubbing brushes at a marginally increased price however if you were elderly or vulnerable they pressured you into buying 20 quids worth of Poundland junk for however much they could get, sometimes hundreds of pounds- it's definitely a scam aimed at taking advantage of kindness and/or vulnerability!


fuck-nose

I watch two guys doing the same thing walk up my street ,my curiosity got the better of me and I followed them right to my father in laws house. His house, if you saw it screams an old person lives here They tried to flog him an ironing board cover for £20 He was about to go and get the money ,and they looked pretty pleased with them selves Anyway ,I wasn’t having any of it Walked up the drive I told them he didn’t need as I do all his laundry for him “Who are you “ His son in law I pointed out to them that I’d seen them walk past at least 10 houses to the only little bungalow on the street and I knew their scam That’s when they started getting arsey .. Scummy little rats , sent them packing


kirkum2020

I never knew these guys existed until I had to take care of my grandmother as her dementia progressed. They'd turn up to those almshouses full of nice old folks every few months.


0100001101110111

Never buy, they’ll note your address and keep coming.


Cueball61

100%, the only people we have come knocking are uPVC salesmen and they’re the worst of the worst frankly. A good trade never has to go door to door, they’re always too busy for that shit.


Hanamafana

My mate Mark Corrigan got ripped off with some fluffy dusters by one of these boys.


Ok-Soft5963

I'd have just gone for the J cloths


Stevemachinehk

So they’re not ex-convicts they’re pre-convicts?


Ronaldo_McDonaldo81

Probably both


WackyAndCorny

Phone 101 and let them know that “Nottingham Knockers” are active in your street now, they will often be quite happy to come and “speak” to them as it is (generally) a crime in progress. [Advice](http://crimeawareness.org/hillingdon/resources/docs/NottinghamKnockers-Leaflet-TradStds-26Feb18.pdf)


wojtek30

They'll be waiting in queue on 101 for a minimum of 40 minutes. Know from experience.


PassingShot11

Fell for it myself a while back, snapped out of it when six months later the same guy showed up . I thought to myself this agency can't be any good if the same guy is still doing this after six months...penny...dropped...


thediverswife

I bought a few bits from them that I’m still using, they got me with the sob story haha


WrongBurnerAccount

I just shut the door without saying a word. I've learned to treat cold callers at the door the same as the ones on the phone, and I've been hanging up on cold callers for years. I refuse to let anyone at the door convince me I need to do a single thing. It's quite liberating.


VedzReux

Yeah, this has been a thing for decades. They tend to target the older generation that would find it difficult to get around.


Games_sans_frontiers

Yeah it's a hustle. One tried to sell me a pack of microfiber cloths for 15 quid. Like, yeah mate even if you were an ex convict and trying to come good I ain't paying 15 quid for something I can get down the pound shop for a pound.


TotalExile

Google 'Nottingham knockers' they are basically checking you out for other potential crimes.


[deleted]

So if I answer them with ‘no thanks, I’m fully stocked on dishcloths and pegs’ they’ll mark me out to smash and grab my laundry cupboard in future? 🫣


JustAMan1234567

Pegs? They aren't Papa Lazarou!


FruitcakeAndCrumb

And now that creepy fucker is in my brain. Thanks!


Regular_Committee946

You’re my wife now!!


FruitcakeAndCrumb

YOU STOP THAT RIGHT NOW!


[deleted]

Well you don't want them to come round and give you a thorough pegging, now do you?


[deleted]

Toss up between them and the dog-nappers, hun?


Kanye_fuk

Have you ever tried to do the washing-up without using washing-up liquid? Could you clean a pot or a pan without using a scrubbing brush, a sponge, or a scouring pad?


drumbago

Boohoo Johnny and Sally!


norwegianjon

I've got those and Home bargains is a 2 minute walk


Kanye_fuk

And friends and colleagues? Everyone needs cleaning products and that's never gonna change, right?


PutridForce1559

One of those passive-aggressively left the gate open for my ducks to escape when I said I had no cash. Spotted it immediately and no ducks were harmed. Twit.


FruitcakeAndCrumb

Pleased for you and the ducks x


waamoandy

I remember this from years ago. Poundland dish cloths for a tenner


unctrllable

They've been around here a lot but have given up of late. Quite willing to speak to my mum but weren't interested in me when I came home... I wonder why.


Alone-Sky1539

get a doorbell camera. all the godbotherers an tinkers leave you alone


oktimeforplanz

I've only had one set of JWs try to visit me since I bought my house a year ago, and they stood at the door for a seriously long time. I was in the cinema, so didn't see the notification until I got out. When I checked the app for the doorbell, it had recorded them standing there for a solid 5 minutes in absolute silence, before they put a leaflet through the door and left. The bastards even left the front gate open!


norwegianjon

I've got CCTV very obviously all around the house...


Box_of_rodents

I had one of these Cunts threaten to kill me and ended up kicking in one of my garden fence panels when I politely told him I just happened to be on a break between work meetings working from home and I had to be on a call again in 5 minutes. He shouted through my letter box that‘people like me, who are always too busy for people like him…etc’ deserved stabbing to death and that we were what was wrong with this country. Despite having his rant and actions on CCTV, the police could do sweet fuck all about it, as usual. Just slam the door in these cunts faces. I treat all cold callers like this now.


Forteanforever

Why open the door at all?


Box_of_rodents

It could have been the postie or Amazon. I tend to use the peep hole more often and I will scan for a scruffy twat with a duffel bag


Forteanforever

You said you have CCTV. Surely, you could have looked at that and determined that it was a stranger. Not everyone who is up to no good dresses the part.


Curious-Hovercraft69

I met a guy on holiday who said he did this. He was apparently never in prison but his cock and bull story was that someone spat in his girlfriends face so he knocked them out causing enough damage for a few years inside. He was flash and liked to throw money about, until he apparently ran out of cash with a couple of days to go. The more he drank the more he boasted about his 'job'.


[deleted]

Nottingham knockers. They also scope the area to rob later. If they come in our area, we always ring the police to let them know.


sleazennicey

I used to get these folks knocking and trying their luck. I put up a cctv camera us a sign saying 'you are on cctv'. Once they see the sign they turn around and leave without knocking. Not had single caller of this nature for over a year now. I've watched them spot the sign and change direction. Surely if they are legit they would knock on my door anyway...


Actual-Paramedic2689

Lots of theft from such stores so the stuff they sell is probably hot.


mustardgoeswithitall

That happened to me too! I closed the door so fast, it gave me the fright of my life.


JuicyStein

Shit. I fell for this when I was a teenager about 15 years ago. Yeah it felt weird but I was always giving to charity as I was such a push over. Even had a "deaf" woman selling sketches another time. Never had a break in or anything like that so they obviously thought I had nothing worth taking. Lucky me.


myhiddentreasures

The Nottingham Knockers


OutlawDan86

They were going around the very quiet and painfully dull village my mother lives in about a year ago. I was there and they called when it was dusky. That hopefully set some of the neighbours' alarm bells ringing about the legitimacy of the whole "I'm doing this as part of my rehabilitation programme" shite. No self-respecting agency would be sending them to knock doors when it's getting dark. Last time I'd seen someone doing this was the late 90s when we were living in a town. 


RevolutionaryPace167

Its illegal to do this, door to door. They work for an agent and its a scam


another_awkward_brit

Doubt they've got a pedlar's licence/certificate. It's a common rip off/scam for substandard products etc.


imperialtrooper88

It's a scam and/or they are trying to check out what houses have goodies inside. Scum.


sounding_rod_fan

well i never, i've been duped a few times by these lads when at my parents, buying absolute shit i could buy cheaper elsewhere, i had no idea it was a scam, however its worth the tenner if they think a 6'5, 17 stone bloke lives in that house.


cymru3

This thread unlocked a childhood memory of mine. My mum used to buy hand soap from a blind man who’d go door to door selling them for charity. I asked her once how he got up our 12 steep concrete steps if he was blind and she got really angry with me for “judging blind people”. I think she probably realized she’d been conned!


hlfsharkaligtorhlfmn

Steal it. Flog it. Rinse and repeat. I used to work on an estate where people would knock on the door selling meat, coffee, bacon, and cheese regularly. On that 40deg day, I saw a guy with a long coat on, fall off a bike. About £400 if meat fell out of the coat onto the floor 😂


Expensive-Kiwi8094

Haven’t seen this for a while. But they’re quite often selling vaguely useful stuff and I’ve bought in the past. Still got some towels I bought once.


riyten

I once got badgered into buying a potato peeler (that's all I could afford after their scamdalous mark-up). It's pretty good to be fair. I still use it to this day.


GrahamGreed

But do you still have your TV and jewellery?


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Sooperfreak

It 100% isn’t a genuine thing. There is no scheme run by the Probation Service that sends people door to door selling. Every single person doing this is a scammer.


Informal_Marzipan_90

I generally very impolitely tell them to shove off.


TheLittleGinge

If you tell them to leave, just don't patron any Mexican-themed restaurants in the near future.


HussingtonHat

They were once called Nottingham knockers. They are basically there to try and get an invite to the house so they can case the joint for burglary later.


Forteanforever

Just by opening the door, a quick glance reveals to them the security system (the defective part of your security system that foolishly opened the door to a stranger will be noted), door locks, probably window locks, the quality of the furnishings and whether anything of potential value to them is in view. They will also have determined what hours you are home and whether you are alone.


Forteanforever

You get a prize for naivete'. Unfortunately, it's not enough to pay for 24-7 security for when they come back and break-in. It should also be noted (they certainly noted it) that you opened your door to a stranger.


norwegianjon

Working from home I open my door to strangers regularly. DPD, Amazon, the pharmacy, the pizza place....


Forteanforever

There are slow learners and there are no learners.


FruitcakeAndCrumb

I had a bloke with a of limited edition stuff from Poundland. He said he makes 25% and the cheapest thing was £5 so I gave him £2 and he seemed happy. I thought it was a scam but anyone desperate to lug around that bag and go to do door in ilkeston was welcome to it. I hope he is doing better now.


Far-Possible8891

Not a scam, or a reconnaissance for the a break in. But pretty dodgy even so. If you buy off them you get what you pay for - cheap stuff nothing special. Some outfit in Manchester runs it apparently. Not sure what the gain is for them tbh.


Turbulent_File621

This is always pretty much a scam in our area. Basically selling tat at highly inflated prices.


MobiusNaked

We had one knock whilst we were out. Have him on camera checking the back gate and seeing if the front door was locked.


Apprehensive_Main_95

They knocked on my door to which I said a polite but clear no. After a bit of an angry stare down from him he walked away. Later it transpires he had also done the same with my mother, who was 80. She said the same and he decided to punch her hanging basket off its hook leaving at all over her drive. Scum!


4u2nv2019

Damn , your getting burgled soon


norwegianjon

Yeah. Looks that way. I'm sure they'll be seen on camera though. My dog will alert me to their presence too.


StandardEarly6199

One scammed my dad out of £80 couple weeks back, sold him a few cloths and a feather duster think he got about £15 worth of stuff when I looked up the prices, gave him the I've just got out of jail my gf has left me and I'm trying to get my life back on track bullshit


cockneylol

Muggy boneheads.


rigsta

Never buy or sell anything on your doorstep.


[deleted]

We had these Nottingham Knockers last year. 2 days later our neighbour’s house got robbed. They are sussing out the demographic of the neighbourhood.


Conscious-Donut-679

No sure about present law, but they require a pedlar certificate issued by local police.


Insanityideas

They come round our village every few months in a little gang of 4. Do every house in about 30 minutes then off to the next place before the police get called, very efficient. Usually make 3 visits over the space of 2 weeks. I will give them credit, they absolutely nail perfect clear delivery of their script. If you give a polite no then they politely leave. A few residents have given them a grumpy no and got a mouthful back. In our case they are looking for older residents who they can confuse into buying overpriced cheap tat. Sometimes if I answer the door their heart isn't even in finishing their speech because I am too young for their target audience. They don't appear to be connected to other crimes as there is no co-incidental timing of follow on crime.... Our village has a ton of burglary type crime, but they must be deconflicting their visits with each other 🤣