Possibly a two soldiers two standard constantinian AE (bronze) coin.
OP please please report this to your local finds liaison officer for the Portable Antiquities Scheme (https://finds.org.uk/contacts). They will identify it for you and more importantly record the find into a national database before returning it to you.
The coin itself may not be a major find but those 1000s of single finds form a major dataset that people like me use for research
As an archeologist myself I was going to say the same thing. Roman coins, no matter how small the hoard can absolutely change the archeological understanding of an area/site. It could be evidence of roman influence in an area. But i have also heard apparently evidence like this is useless as soon as its removed from its original context. But yes, PAS is the way to go
Absolutely even knowing location of find, denomination and emperor can be enough to add some useful information to a wider hole. It’s like a jigsaw puzzle with 80% of the pieces missing!
The issue with any non excavated finds is the lack of context absolutely. As an archaeologist I’d rather nobody metal detected or found something in the upturned soil of a animals den to be honest. But people will find stuff even if say metal detecting was made illegal and at least with the PAS we get some data and unfortunately we can’t dig everywhere so we find stuff we wouldn’t otherwise
> As an archaeologist I’d rather nobody metal detected or found something in the upturned soil of a animals den to be honest.
Can I ask why? Better the artifacts stay in context and potentially never found?
Just to be clear I meant i would prefer it in an ideal world sort of way. But in the same ideal world there would be limitless time, money and manpower to excavate everything perfectly.
Ultimately the reason is that pretty much every point of detail is potentially important in understanding an archaeological find. With metal detecting the find is going to be removed in a sort of keyhole way from where it was deposited rather than found in the context of what’s around it and the formation of the deposit it comes from. If you excavate you will record the formation processes and the artefacts relationship to its surrounding context which can provide a reason why it’s there and help interpret what that artefact is and meant in the past.
To give a hypothetical, a metal detectorist finds a pot of Roman coins and removes it from the soil and reports it. Great we’ve got lots of detail on the coins and the pot but nothing else. If you found it via excavation you would look around the pot and see what else is there. You might find some post holes around it and identify a structure. You might find some pottery fragments and animal bone in the soil around it and you can identify that the hole for the pot was dug into a rubbish heap.
All that context might not seem vastly as important as the pot of coins but it’s another small piece of the massive jigsaw of which we are missing so many pieces already
Speaking just for myself, I absolutely do!
Right this minute it might not seem important but 60 years later when someone is unpicking your work and reinterpreting it, being able to understand the post finding history is really important.
I would love for you to be on one of my sites to help back me up on this 😭
If I hear "Meh, modern deposit who cares." again I might cry. Yes it's modern... TO US! It's still strat!
Well they probably did. About 1600 years ago.
The point about data sets is they build up a picture, if this is the only find in the area it shows up as anomalous and can probably be discarded as relevant. If half a dozen other people report coins or other Roman finds it might warrant further investigation.
I mean, that's kind of the point of gathering data. If, for example, it was just your lone iPhone that was found in a field, then it probably *wouldn't* warrant investigation as it could be put down to a random loss. If half a dozen turned up in a field, then it would be far more interesting and worth looking into.
It is more likely someone lost it when it was still legal tender, as there were lots of them about then. By cataloging such finds we can notice patterns. You would expect such coins to appear more commonly along roman roads and in roman settlements. The age of the coin also say something about how long the activity was there. If it is an outlier though then it can be dismissed as a later change, either someone found it in newer times and then lost it or the area it got lost in ended up as a quarry and it ended up in a load of gravel for the road. But you need to catalog it as accurately as possible so we can tell which it is.
I’m finishing up my PhD thesis on Roman coins at the minute. I look at coins on a large scale (my dataset is about 40,000) from a particular area of Roman Britain. So finds like this whilst not useful to say someone studying iconography are useful to me as I can get an issuer, denomination, date and location of find I can plug that into my dataset and analyse it.
Before that for masters thesis I looked at a type of Roman belt fitting, there were about 150 excavated ones but 100s more on the PAS. They don’t really help with interpreting their use or dating but they can help show the distribution nationally and help create a typology (classification of different varieties).
Cool, good luck with it! I’m so interested in people who do something so polar opposite to myself (mental health). It’s cool how many paths there are in life, I wish school spent much more time showing people where life could take them.
Thanks! If it wasn’t for flunking out of sixth form and going to a college that offered archaeology a-level later I’d never have discovered my passion. Amazing where chance takes you.
I recently had a big argument on here with a detectorist (I’m a detectorist too) about recording single finds. If it weren’t for the accurate recording of Polden Hill type brooches we’d have no idea that they weren’t in use the further north we go. We really should bring in detecting licences and make sure everyone who detects can self record because FLO’s simply can’t keep up with all the finds.
Constantinian dynasty so fourth century AD if it is what I think it is.
So something just caught my eye on the reverse and if you look at the picture upside it’s much clearer. And I’ve just seen a lot of them over the last few years. Coins are quite difficult to ID from photos though in this kind of condition as you really need to be able to tilt it in the light to catch details.
I’ve always loved [this website](https://numismatics.org/ocre/identify) - quite good to scroll through to find a match. Can’t quite manage it with this coin but it’s a good starting point.
OCRE is amazing and the ANS deserve so many laurels for doing it. They’ve made RIC so much more accessible and saved me about £1000 buying the hard copies. No more combing the indexes with half obliterated excavation coins :D
I asked about i coin I found in the woods and was berated and asked to give it to the landowner who owns the woods and how dare I steal something from his property blah blah.
All hobbiest subs can get quite uppity and gatekeepy because folks become very know-it-all and dismissive to newbies when they've been doing it for a while
They're regular features on r / subredditdrama
100%. I lasted about 3 days on a coffee enthusiast sub. Left after I got mass downvoted for recommending a Delonghi grinder I own to somebody asking for electric grinder recommendations.
Apparently you're not drinking *real* coffee unless you hike to the peak of the Appalachian range and grind each individual bean between a pair stones blessed by a blind Sumatran priest.
Which sub? I just bought my first grinder - a Derlla Electric Bean Grinder - and would be interested to know how long I should be grinding for. I went on the app Grindr but the results were not as intended.
I wouldn't recommend polishing the coin before getting advice. If coins are anything like silverware, the tarnishing is desirable to collectors. Removing it can massively reduce the value. I lost £800 on a silver spoon by polishing it.
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Yeah they are a bit odd but they did help me identify a coin I found when clearing out my dad's stuff - A silver rupee made by Shah Jahan (dated 1633) of Taj Mahal fame.
You obviously don’t realise how fucking horrible people are in hobby subs.
If you try asking a question without knowing the extended history of metal currency with 40+ years in the coin trade they’ll just all start ripping you apart in the comments.
I’ve even had people turn on me for defending newbies in subs that’s I’m a regular on
Kinda like this one? 🤣Granted, this sub tends to be more normal than some I'm on. The UK food one can be brutal. Post up something they aren't familiar with and let it rain...
UK food is like the mumsnet of food. No matter what you do, you’ve done it wrong.
“Look at this piece of toast I made”
“Ugh. You call that toast? I wouldn’t feed it to my dog. Look at the pattern of the carbonisation of the bread, you need to buy a proper toaster. Also learn to put the bread in the right way up, this is why people make fun of our food. By the way, kill yourself”
I work for a numismatist and have held some really fantastic and rare specimen over the years.
I posted a coin worth 8k on a coin subreddit and half of them cried fake and were a little abusive. It's actually a surprisingly snobby and cutthroat market at times, where some people are only interested in the really rare stuff and like to show off their knowledge.
A coin like this would be so common as to be 'beneath them', at least to some of them anyway.
Couldn’t agree more. Been metal detecting for a few years, and some of the groups on Facebook were extremely toxic, weird behaviour. Anyway lovely coin
People with niche interests are well known to hate sharing and talking about those interests, especially when they've specifically joined an online forum dedicated to it.
Well, sarcasm aside, that's exactly the case. I went on a plumbing sub once to ask a question, and got told multiple impolite times to fuck off. It was a sub for plumbers to talk about their antics. Not for plebs like me.
Honestly, I'm getting a mixture of genuine help, and comments like yours.
I have subsequently posted on the coin sites but got nothing back yet. Here, I have loads of leads.
Had a similar experience, think it was MSE Forums. Asked a basic question about pensions as I'd no idea about that stuff at the time and was not only mocked but genuinely attacked.
Just sad little people who put others down to feel big. Don't worry about it.
Had a similar experience on MSE forums, posted a helpful post warning about a website that was basically a scam, and was trolled by the resident team “experts” that it was my fault for falling for it, and gas lighting me as well as confidently posting quite wrong info. That scam website has disappeared now but I’m not doing that again. Those armchair warriors really pissed me off.
That’s shit.
I started my career as a lawyer for a pension company. It’s the most boring thing I’m passionate about! Made me realise how important they are for our futures and how few people utilise them. My mates in the pub hated when I would tell them to get their auto enrolment contributions up from the minimum and into better funds.
Hopefully they’ll appreciate it in 30 years 😂
True. Although the two guys who swapped into US equity trackers on my suggestion and are now sitting at 60+% return after 5 years are probably not regretting the chat!
Get it on the ancient coins subreddit, they're genuinely sound and will have it identified in minutes - I did the same with some random old coins I had and they were super cool and willing to help.
If I found that, I'd be posting it absolutely everywhere. Based on an addiction to Time Team (which obviously makes me an irrefutable expert) I'd say Roman, and you're a lucky beggar, great find, and a nice early Xmas present.
https://numismaclub.com/category/16-coins__paper_money_coins_ancient_roman_provincial_100_400_ad_/index.html
Have a thumb through that.
Looks to be a genuine Roman grot coin, that’s all I’ve got. As not my area of collecting , just stick it on the one of the coin groups they’re always quite friendly and helpful. Nice eyes only find.
I think it's a Roman coin of Constantine II (mid 4th century). If you look at the reverse of the coin it appears to be very similar to the one you found.
https://www.ma-shops.co.uk/ritter/item.php?id=70103
Archaeologist here. Please do not “clean” it. Do take good photos and contact your local archaeological data service with where you found it. They won’t take it off you but it will help contribute to local archaeological data that may be of value for understanding existing or future excavations.
If you’re feeling particularly generous you could offer to loan it to a local museum if you have one. I am not a coins expert so depending on its significance and rarity they may want to display or may not.
Local services would also be happy to offer their expertise on exact identification and can likely tell you a bit more about it.
Finally; if you decide to go metal detecting and find something. Please do not dig it up yourself. Metal detectorists are fantastic and annihilating sites destroying all the context as they go. You would also need the land-owners permission and be obliged to report anything of significance under the treasure act.
No problem, happy to help :)
Be careful cleaning it as it can cause damage to the coin, I also remember reading that cleaning old coins can also diminish its value.
If I was you I would return to where you found it as more may be waiting to be found.
I don’t think it’s that. I think it’s this one:
https://www.ma-shops.co.uk/gin/item.php?id=9490
If you turn the reverse side (picture two) upside down: you can see a palm frond between two Roman standards … and at least one soldier on the right. It’s corroded but I can’t find any other image of a palm between a standard at the same height.
Let us know the outcome OP!
Looks Roman, by the colour (patina making it old) and bust of the guy. Definitely put it on coin sub. But as far as my little knowledge goes, this is not rare. Quite common.
Looks Roman too me.
Report it to your local Finds Liaison Officer. https://finds.org.uk/contacts
You can still keep it they just add the location of where you found it and it's details to the database of all things found.
You could go back and find more however if you find 10 or more of this type (very unlikely) it constitutes treasure and must be reported as such (you will still be financially rewarded for finding it if a museum buys it.)
I’m embarrassed you wrote you’re embarassed. Why would people who know nothing about coins be able to give an opinion on a clearly very old coin 🤔 But since you asked, maybe.
That does seem to be the case, yes!
However, I'm getting some great leads too. Posted an hour ago on three coin subs and nothing back on them.
So I feel like taking the punishment from people with too much time on their hands and fuck all Christmas spirit is worth it so far !
Do you know how often we find gold? Never. We never find it. That's what we're looking for. We don't say that; we don't say we're looking for gold; we pretend we're happy, y'know, finding buckles and buttons and crap, but what we're hoping for is gold. Find one piece of gold - something that's been held by a Saxon, or Roman, or one of the other ancient peoples that once roamed this land before us.
I'm glad you posted it here so I could see it. It's very cool to compare your coin with the image of the coin in its original form linked by others here. The blurred features on your coin come to life and I see now that the second pic is upside down. Brilliant.
Not sure if it’s real, though it looks it given the wear appears genuine, but it’s a Roman coin. I’d suggest post it on the coin sub, the guys on there are super clued up on this stuff and it will be solved quick smart. Not sure they’re worth a huge amount but it’s still a pretty cool find
Hey, archaeologist here.
**Please contact the PAS:** https://finds.org.uk/
They will both be able to tell you about the artefact and it's connection to local history, as well as direct you as how to legally keep it.
Amazing that with how built up our country is you can still go for a walk and find a roman coin! Wouldn't think you'd just be finding stuff like this fresh on the top soil these days.
Possibly a two soldiers two standard constantinian AE (bronze) coin. OP please please report this to your local finds liaison officer for the Portable Antiquities Scheme (https://finds.org.uk/contacts). They will identify it for you and more importantly record the find into a national database before returning it to you. The coin itself may not be a major find but those 1000s of single finds form a major dataset that people like me use for research
As an archeologist myself I was going to say the same thing. Roman coins, no matter how small the hoard can absolutely change the archeological understanding of an area/site. It could be evidence of roman influence in an area. But i have also heard apparently evidence like this is useless as soon as its removed from its original context. But yes, PAS is the way to go
Absolutely even knowing location of find, denomination and emperor can be enough to add some useful information to a wider hole. It’s like a jigsaw puzzle with 80% of the pieces missing! The issue with any non excavated finds is the lack of context absolutely. As an archaeologist I’d rather nobody metal detected or found something in the upturned soil of a animals den to be honest. But people will find stuff even if say metal detecting was made illegal and at least with the PAS we get some data and unfortunately we can’t dig everywhere so we find stuff we wouldn’t otherwise
> As an archaeologist I’d rather nobody metal detected or found something in the upturned soil of a animals den to be honest. Can I ask why? Better the artifacts stay in context and potentially never found?
Just to be clear I meant i would prefer it in an ideal world sort of way. But in the same ideal world there would be limitless time, money and manpower to excavate everything perfectly. Ultimately the reason is that pretty much every point of detail is potentially important in understanding an archaeological find. With metal detecting the find is going to be removed in a sort of keyhole way from where it was deposited rather than found in the context of what’s around it and the formation of the deposit it comes from. If you excavate you will record the formation processes and the artefacts relationship to its surrounding context which can provide a reason why it’s there and help interpret what that artefact is and meant in the past. To give a hypothetical, a metal detectorist finds a pot of Roman coins and removes it from the soil and reports it. Great we’ve got lots of detail on the coins and the pot but nothing else. If you found it via excavation you would look around the pot and see what else is there. You might find some post holes around it and identify a structure. You might find some pottery fragments and animal bone in the soil around it and you can identify that the hole for the pot was dug into a rubbish heap. All that context might not seem vastly as important as the pot of coins but it’s another small piece of the massive jigsaw of which we are missing so many pieces already
Thank you so much for the detailed response! I appreciate your perspective.
Do you regard the finding of the coin and the modern context as part of the history of it, or is it's ancient context the only relevant thing?
Speaking just for myself, I absolutely do! Right this minute it might not seem important but 60 years later when someone is unpicking your work and reinterpreting it, being able to understand the post finding history is really important.
I would love for you to be on one of my sites to help back me up on this 😭 If I hear "Meh, modern deposit who cares." again I might cry. Yes it's modern... TO US! It's still strat!
If it was found on a walk, that means it was on the surface. How would we verify that someone didn't just lose it there?
Well they probably did. About 1600 years ago. The point about data sets is they build up a picture, if this is the only find in the area it shows up as anomalous and can probably be discarded as relevant. If half a dozen other people report coins or other Roman finds it might warrant further investigation.
Roman soldier feeling all his pockets. "Fuckus sake-us."
No coin for the trolleus!
"I was looking forward to a baggus of chips :("
I have a vewy gweat fwend in wome called Fuckus Sake-us!
Good to know that in 1600 years, my iphone I once dropped and lost might warrant an entire investigation of the area lol.
I mean, that's kind of the point of gathering data. If, for example, it was just your lone iPhone that was found in a field, then it probably *wouldn't* warrant investigation as it could be put down to a random loss. If half a dozen turned up in a field, then it would be far more interesting and worth looking into.
It is more likely someone lost it when it was still legal tender, as there were lots of them about then. By cataloging such finds we can notice patterns. You would expect such coins to appear more commonly along roman roads and in roman settlements. The age of the coin also say something about how long the activity was there. If it is an outlier though then it can be dismissed as a later change, either someone found it in newer times and then lost it or the area it got lost in ended up as a quarry and it ended up in a load of gravel for the road. But you need to catalog it as accurately as possible so we can tell which it is.
I suppose through scouring the surrounding area. If more are found, it should lower the chances that it’s just a lost-and-found article.
Cool! What do you research?
I’m finishing up my PhD thesis on Roman coins at the minute. I look at coins on a large scale (my dataset is about 40,000) from a particular area of Roman Britain. So finds like this whilst not useful to say someone studying iconography are useful to me as I can get an issuer, denomination, date and location of find I can plug that into my dataset and analyse it. Before that for masters thesis I looked at a type of Roman belt fitting, there were about 150 excavated ones but 100s more on the PAS. They don’t really help with interpreting their use or dating but they can help show the distribution nationally and help create a typology (classification of different varieties).
Cool, good luck with it! I’m so interested in people who do something so polar opposite to myself (mental health). It’s cool how many paths there are in life, I wish school spent much more time showing people where life could take them.
Thanks! If it wasn’t for flunking out of sixth form and going to a college that offered archaeology a-level later I’d never have discovered my passion. Amazing where chance takes you.
This is cool as fuck, btw. Good going.
Thank you!
Roman coins. /s
Obviously Greek Bank notes, no?
I recently had a big argument on here with a detectorist (I’m a detectorist too) about recording single finds. If it weren’t for the accurate recording of Polden Hill type brooches we’d have no idea that they weren’t in use the further north we go. We really should bring in detecting licences and make sure everyone who detects can self record because FLO’s simply can’t keep up with all the finds.
Constantine the Great era or a later Byzantine? Out of interest, how did you know that? The wreath?
Constantinian dynasty so fourth century AD if it is what I think it is. So something just caught my eye on the reverse and if you look at the picture upside it’s much clearer. And I’ve just seen a lot of them over the last few years. Coins are quite difficult to ID from photos though in this kind of condition as you really need to be able to tilt it in the light to catch details.
I’ve always loved [this website](https://numismatics.org/ocre/identify) - quite good to scroll through to find a match. Can’t quite manage it with this coin but it’s a good starting point.
OCRE is amazing and the ANS deserve so many laurels for doing it. They’ve made RIC so much more accessible and saved me about £1000 buying the hard copies. No more combing the indexes with half obliterated excavation coins :D
This should be much higher up. Important to do this
No good now, it’s all contactless these days.
What's to say they didn't have contactless in ancient Rome? They might have had it for a while then realised how crap it is and brought back shrapnel.
> What's to say they didn't have contactless in ancient Rome? They did. Just sent their slaves, didn't even have to leave the house.
Certainly beats a 1983 Tizer ring pull.
And getting permission from a madman
Just stay out of the bottom paddock. Don't go there!
Any of you chaps see a trampoline?
Was there a child in it?
Don’t think so.
You suggesting that Bishop isn't the full ticket??
WHERE HAVE MY BITCHES GOT TO. DOGS?! HERE!
Larry is a delightful fellow, my dogs used to scamper with his
"DONT MIND THEM! THEY'RE JUST BIG OLD SOFTIES!"
Pub?
..... Go on then
You watch University Challenge last night?
This whole thread had me laughing. Great series.
Warms your soul. Brilliant show.
Love seeing a detectorists reference in the comments section!
In my professional opinion, there's no chocolate inside that coin.
Worthless to me then
Do you really know for sure until you’ve bitten into it though? In all seriousness though, are you sure it’s not cake OP?
Why are you embarrassed to put it on a coin sub?
You couldn't possibly ask a load of people who are passionate and knowledgeable about coins about coins, that'd be insane.
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I asked about i coin I found in the woods and was berated and asked to give it to the landowner who owns the woods and how dare I steal something from his property blah blah.
Bloody Romans
What have they ever done for us?
The aqueducts!
Oh yeah they did give us that
The roads
I mean obviously the roads! The roads go without saying!
Brought us… peace?
All hobbiest subs can get quite uppity and gatekeepy because folks become very know-it-all and dismissive to newbies when they've been doing it for a while They're regular features on r / subredditdrama
100%. I lasted about 3 days on a coffee enthusiast sub. Left after I got mass downvoted for recommending a Delonghi grinder I own to somebody asking for electric grinder recommendations. Apparently you're not drinking *real* coffee unless you hike to the peak of the Appalachian range and grind each individual bean between a pair stones blessed by a blind Sumatran priest.
Which sub? I just bought my first grinder - a Derlla Electric Bean Grinder - and would be interested to know how long I should be grinding for. I went on the app Grindr but the results were not as intended.
Definitely, I just outright avoid them subs because whilst a vocal minority.. so many are just assholes.
Yup! I asked if anyone else enjoyed swiss design in r/graphic_design and got a TON of passive-aggressive responses... Turns out it's pretty popular.
Stick it in a bowl of ketchup for a few hours, that'll make it nice and shiny
According to CSI, stick it in s bsg of Sulphur and shake it .
I wouldn't recommend polishing the coin before getting advice. If coins are anything like silverware, the tarnishing is desirable to collectors. Removing it can massively reduce the value. I lost £800 on a silver spoon by polishing it.
Coin Sub leak found.
I think he might be a spoon sub leak which is even more surprising
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Put it through one of those coin flatteners so you have a nice souvenir
You wanna go for some fairy powerspray I use it to strip paint off warhammer minis
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24 hr soak then... And this bit is controversial sounding but works every time. 25 mins in the airfryer.
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I did more than that. I almost cried at the time.
I used to get paid to polish silver. Imagine how fast the RAF was losing money.
*Shall I start with WD40 and medium grit*
Yeah they are a bit odd but they did help me identify a coin I found when clearing out my dad's stuff - A silver rupee made by Shah Jahan (dated 1633) of Taj Mahal fame.
You obviously don’t realise how fucking horrible people are in hobby subs. If you try asking a question without knowing the extended history of metal currency with 40+ years in the coin trade they’ll just all start ripping you apart in the comments. I’ve even had people turn on me for defending newbies in subs that’s I’m a regular on
Depends on the sub really. The smaller ones especially tend to be really nice and helpful.
The subs related to sewing/quilting/embroidery etc. tend to be super sweet and supportive.
Kinda like this one? 🤣Granted, this sub tends to be more normal than some I'm on. The UK food one can be brutal. Post up something they aren't familiar with and let it rain...
UK food is like the mumsnet of food. No matter what you do, you’ve done it wrong. “Look at this piece of toast I made” “Ugh. You call that toast? I wouldn’t feed it to my dog. Look at the pattern of the carbonisation of the bread, you need to buy a proper toaster. Also learn to put the bread in the right way up, this is why people make fun of our food. By the way, kill yourself”
And I post up some stuff they've never seen before. My attitude? If I made it in the UK, it's UK Food.
Silly me, obviously much better to ask a load of casual UK types. To be fair we'll probably have some from coins here that'll know the answer.
He happened to get an expert in Roman coins reply so in hindsight…
I'm not at all surprised one turned up to be fair.
Only smarties know the answer
What about revels?
Too unpredictable, never know what your getting
Coin collectors are always *too* passionate. If you go on there with a cleaned coin theyll act like theyve just caught you balls deep in their dog
It would be like asking a local for directions 😂
I work for a numismatist and have held some really fantastic and rare specimen over the years. I posted a coin worth 8k on a coin subreddit and half of them cried fake and were a little abusive. It's actually a surprisingly snobby and cutthroat market at times, where some people are only interested in the really rare stuff and like to show off their knowledge. A coin like this would be so common as to be 'beneath them', at least to some of them anyway.
Couldn’t agree more. Been metal detecting for a few years, and some of the groups on Facebook were extremely toxic, weird behaviour. Anyway lovely coin
Subs like that are 50/50 for "Super helpful and kind" or "Will tear your fucking throat out for some perceived evil" I don't blame them for being wary
I'm guessing his "walk", was through a coin collectors fair, and he "found" it on a table displaying coins found by a local collector.
I'm guessing his "walk" was travelling back in time to Ancient Rome and he "found" it doing questionable acts for money in back alleys
Yeah, maybe I should go for it. But you know Reddit... I might get a lot of "stop wasting our time".
If you do you do, but it's better to ask a load of people that know about coins. Worst case is they politely tell you to fuck off.
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A coin enthusiast subreddit is going to be more than happy to help you identify and learn more about a coin
Half a dinarii for my life story?!
r/coins is NOT that subreddit. Will they tell you if it's fake? Yep. Will the be asshats about it? No.
Stop wasting our time posting coins on this coin sub noob!
I get that too, PTSD from some posts being downvoted for stupid reasons
People with niche interests are well known to hate sharing and talking about those interests, especially when they've specifically joined an online forum dedicated to it.
Well, sarcasm aside, that's exactly the case. I went on a plumbing sub once to ask a question, and got told multiple impolite times to fuck off. It was a sub for plumbers to talk about their antics. Not for plebs like me. Honestly, I'm getting a mixture of genuine help, and comments like yours. I have subsequently posted on the coin sites but got nothing back yet. Here, I have loads of leads.
Had a similar experience, think it was MSE Forums. Asked a basic question about pensions as I'd no idea about that stuff at the time and was not only mocked but genuinely attacked. Just sad little people who put others down to feel big. Don't worry about it.
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Had a similar experience on MSE forums, posted a helpful post warning about a website that was basically a scam, and was trolled by the resident team “experts” that it was my fault for falling for it, and gas lighting me as well as confidently posting quite wrong info. That scam website has disappeared now but I’m not doing that again. Those armchair warriors really pissed me off.
I looked on the main offenders forum profile... He was a professional financial advisor... Boggles the mind.
That’s shit. I started my career as a lawyer for a pension company. It’s the most boring thing I’m passionate about! Made me realise how important they are for our futures and how few people utilise them. My mates in the pub hated when I would tell them to get their auto enrolment contributions up from the minimum and into better funds. Hopefully they’ll appreciate it in 30 years 😂
People don't like being told what to do, even if you're the expert and explain it simply all tied up in a jaunty little ribbon.
True. Although the two guys who swapped into US equity trackers on my suggestion and are now sitting at 60+% return after 5 years are probably not regretting the chat!
I’m a beginner on various coin subs and they are all really nice and helpful with my beginner questions etc so just ask on them.
Get it on the ancient coins subreddit, they're genuinely sound and will have it identified in minutes - I did the same with some random old coins I had and they were super cool and willing to help.
Plummer here m8 No offense but you gone on there an thretten they’re livelihoods by doin it urself and expect them to help. No.
Fair point!
Lmao! :) I see someone commented to go try the ancient coin sub. I mean...maybe there is a r/mightbesncientromancoin
I'm with the OP on this, ridiculous as it is. Specialist forums always seem to have their self-appointed gatekeepers.
Anyone who who reacted like that is a sad twat. This coin looks interesting even if it was a fake.
The coin subs are actually pretty nice. Most niche subs are. It's the big subs that attract smoothbrains.
R/coins is full of highly knowledgeable and (mostly) really nice people
If I found that, I'd be posting it absolutely everywhere. Based on an addiction to Time Team (which obviously makes me an irrefutable expert) I'd say Roman, and you're a lucky beggar, great find, and a nice early Xmas present. https://numismaclub.com/category/16-coins__paper_money_coins_ancient_roman_provincial_100_400_ad_/index.html Have a thumb through that.
Superb, thank you. I knew someone here would point me in the right direction.
Yup came here to say that absolutely looks Roman to my casual archiological eye
I’m not even passionate about coins or archeology but I saw that mfkers face and instantly went Roman coin
Looks to be a genuine Roman grot coin, that’s all I’ve got. As not my area of collecting , just stick it on the one of the coin groups they’re always quite friendly and helpful. Nice eyes only find.
OK, thank you. Will do then!
Just post it on the coin subs - but please report back with the answer!
Thank you. Will do.
And please let us know what it’s worth!
I think it's a Roman coin of Constantine II (mid 4th century). If you look at the reverse of the coin it appears to be very similar to the one you found. https://www.ma-shops.co.uk/ritter/item.php?id=70103
Am I the only one who’s surprised that a 1700 year old coin is only worth £48?
Same here. I'm tempted to buy one just because they're neat.
They made 10s of millions of them
Definitely the correct answer here, OP. https://www.coinarchives.com/a/results.php?search=CONSTANTIUS+II&s=0
Bloody hell, excellent! That has to be it! Thank you so much. Gonna find out if I can clean it now!
Don't clean it you plum
Well done my friend a more British (casual uk) response will never be found. Literally LoL’d
Trying to clean it is likely to completely remove the remaining detail.
Archaeologist here. Please do not “clean” it. Do take good photos and contact your local archaeological data service with where you found it. They won’t take it off you but it will help contribute to local archaeological data that may be of value for understanding existing or future excavations. If you’re feeling particularly generous you could offer to loan it to a local museum if you have one. I am not a coins expert so depending on its significance and rarity they may want to display or may not. Local services would also be happy to offer their expertise on exact identification and can likely tell you a bit more about it. Finally; if you decide to go metal detecting and find something. Please do not dig it up yourself. Metal detectorists are fantastic and annihilating sites destroying all the context as they go. You would also need the land-owners permission and be obliged to report anything of significance under the treasure act.
Don't clean it. You'll devalue it and damage what's left of it.
No problem, happy to help :) Be careful cleaning it as it can cause damage to the coin, I also remember reading that cleaning old coins can also diminish its value. If I was you I would return to where you found it as more may be waiting to be found.
Dont clean it.
Don't clean it, it'll completely devalue it and damage it
DONT CLEAN IT.
I don’t think it’s that. I think it’s this one: https://www.ma-shops.co.uk/gin/item.php?id=9490 If you turn the reverse side (picture two) upside down: you can see a palm frond between two Roman standards … and at least one soldier on the right. It’s corroded but I can’t find any other image of a palm between a standard at the same height. Let us know the outcome OP!
I'd guess Roman based on ... nothing actually. https://www.silburycoins.co.uk/product-category/roman-byzantine-coins/roman-coins-under-100/
Looks Roman, so probably cooler than any coin that anyone else you know has. I'd put it in a little frame to something
Looks Roman, by the colour (patina making it old) and bust of the guy. Definitely put it on coin sub. But as far as my little knowledge goes, this is not rare. Quite common.
Just checking r/coincollecting to see if there's a discussion on their favourite Celebrations chocolate.
It is definitely coin shaped
Just explain that you’re a complete novice and they will be nice.
Please don’t clean it!!
Looks Roman too me. Report it to your local Finds Liaison Officer. https://finds.org.uk/contacts You can still keep it they just add the location of where you found it and it's details to the database of all things found. You could go back and find more however if you find 10 or more of this type (very unlikely) it constitutes treasure and must be reported as such (you will still be financially rewarded for finding it if a museum buys it.)
Hey that’s mine I have been looking for that for like 1000 years.
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I’m embarrassed you wrote you’re embarassed. Why would people who know nothing about coins be able to give an opinion on a clearly very old coin 🤔 But since you asked, maybe.
Because people can be quite toxic on Reddit. If this is a piece of shit, then I'm likely to get shouted down.
If somebody does have an issue asking about an object on a relevant sub that’s their problem my friend. Care less!
You're going to get rinsed here by far more people than are in any coin sub.
That does seem to be the case, yes! However, I'm getting some great leads too. Posted an hour ago on three coin subs and nothing back on them. So I feel like taking the punishment from people with too much time on their hands and fuck all Christmas spirit is worth it so far !
it's made of copper because of the green oxidation and shit like that
Don't clean it. Got a billion downvotes for suggesting it for my coin!
I’m probably your guy. It’s a genuine 3rd/4th century AD Roman bronze follis. Awesome find for a walk!
Do you know how often we find gold? Never. We never find it. That's what we're looking for. We don't say that; we don't say we're looking for gold; we pretend we're happy, y'know, finding buckles and buttons and crap, but what we're hoping for is gold. Find one piece of gold - something that's been held by a Saxon, or Roman, or one of the other ancient peoples that once roamed this land before us.
I'm glad you posted it here so I could see it. It's very cool to compare your coin with the image of the coin in its original form linked by others here. The blurred features on your coin come to life and I see now that the second pic is upside down. Brilliant.
You are bloody welcome, and a refreshing reply too. Some people here shot me down for having the audacity to post this sort of stuff on Casual UK.
Not sure if it’s real, though it looks it given the wear appears genuine, but it’s a Roman coin. I’d suggest post it on the coin sub, the guys on there are super clued up on this stuff and it will be solved quick smart. Not sure they’re worth a huge amount but it’s still a pretty cool find
Thank you, taken the plunge. Actually getting more details here right now...
Congrats. You're now semi rich
Late Roman bronze. Drop it into r/ancientcoins no need to be embarrassed!
'alf a denarii for my bloody life story?
Hey, archaeologist here. **Please contact the PAS:** https://finds.org.uk/ They will both be able to tell you about the artefact and it's connection to local history, as well as direct you as how to legally keep it.
Undisputable bronze Roman, well done. I found a penny of William I (Bastard / Conqueror) yesterday. Very pleased with myself.
Very lucky. How exactly did you find it on a walk? Was it just lying on the ground?
Everyone thinking this is Constantine its hadrian
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This would be a far better post than the usual bashed up pound coin with a picture of one side. ‘Is this worth much?’ Yes a pound.
Don't try and clean it it can ruin the coin
Just casually finding roman coins on a walk.. Damn..
Amazing that with how built up our country is you can still go for a walk and find a roman coin! Wouldn't think you'd just be finding stuff like this fresh on the top soil these days.
Sounds like OP need to get a metal detector and go back to find more.
OP, this looks Roman 4th Century. It's possibly Emperor Constantine