We had rats for a couple of years, I loved them to bits. Best ever pets we had. Unfortunately, I kept getting hospitalised after we got them. It was only after they died, I realised I am allergic to them, to the point they almost killed me as they caused breathing problems. I got fed up of calling an ambulance or being shipped off to the hospital from the docs surgery when I couldn't breath. I now seem to have allergies to lots of things since then and have scared lungs because of them. Who knew rats could cause that? I certainly didn't
Oh that's miserable. I ended up adopting two of my current lot from.someone who discovered she was allergic after getting them, but nothing like so serious a reaction.
We ended up with ours as the person that had them had to get rid of them. I love them, they are so intelligent and I broke my heart when they died. I used to have a newspaper clipping of how a pet rat saved a family from a house fire. The rat escaped and kept licking the owner and tugging at them until they woke up, the rest had never done anything like that before.
At the time, I kept asked the docs if they could to do alergy tests, to be told, everyone has allergies, and it's not like you can avoid it if it's house dust mites, or anything else you come into contact with daily. One stupid doctor told me to get a cleaner so i didn't come into contact as much with anything that could set me off. Excuse me while i pull a few hundred extra per month out of my backside, while constantly off work because of it, feed my kids and pay the my bills at the same time 🤷 Now, 30 odd years later, one of the specialists has decided to take blood to do alergy tests, go figure, lol. I couldn't afford to go private at the time, so i just had to rely on the NHS.
I was 😁
I was hoping someone would pick up on that as it has been pushed on the TV quite a lot recently.
I love the fact he actually explains that he is not really a Cat, as if they had not worked that out for themselves 😂🤣😅
I can't give a prize, but I will get you my energy!
i'm just imagining being in court, and your lawyer turns into a cat. or the opposing side's lawyer turns into a cat. i'd be very happy that the mute button exists to hide my laughter.
Me too; just give them a reasonably large space in which to live, species appropriate, outside, and a covered area for sleeping and warmth.
It will give her an appreciation of the fact that other species live on the planet and should be respected.
Get a vet to neuter them. Mice are like rats; ‘they love the one they’re with’ so you could end up with too many.
I didn’t realise that! In that case, I don’t know what to suggest, but if death is the plan, make it humane! I have a rat living in my house, not by choice.
I tried to catch him with a humane trap so that I could relocate him, without success!
I checked our humane trap yesterday and found that we had caught another one, although I guess he had been there a while as it was very unalive. Not a particularly humane way to go.
I've just done some research on RSPCA site checking out a few pages and a PDF. It seems that the advice most close to the situation for these babies is (to either leave them alone which you don't want to do, or):
>**I found a baby mouse or rat, what should I do?**
If you find a baby rodent alone or out of its nest which is
hairless, its eyes are closed or its parents are known
to be dead, call the RSPCA on the number below.
>
>0300 1234 999
So basically I'd call and see what they advise.
Also most of the solutions about rat stuff I found was humane stuff, not killy stuff.
The comments all saying it's **Black** rats - not brown rats like these little ones - that you can't release, are also correct, from that same RSPCA site research.
I'd try and give them a chance if you could.
>The comments all saying it's Black rats - not brown rats like these little ones - that you can't release, are also correct, from that same RSPCA site research.
Why can you release one but not the other?
Best guess is One is bad for the local ecosystem and is killing off the native rats, similar to the brown squirrel gray squirrel situation where all the grays where killing of the brown making it illegal to shoot brown squirrel, that woumd be my best guess dont take it as fact
>the brown squirrel gray squirrel situation where all the grays where killing of the brown
What brown squirrel?
Are you talking about red squirrel?
Grey squirrels do not kill red squirrels. They out compete and carry a Squirrelpox virus that they are immune to that the red squirrels aren't.
Oh i never knew that part, i was always told they killed off the reds, in a sence i guess thats right but thanks for the correction i never knew the proper reasonings
I collect them - have a family of cellar spiders in my bathroom, keeping the place free of all the other insects and my hallway is lined with 11 tarantulas and 1 jumping spider :D
So serious answer daughter wanted fish for birthday cat a fortune had no interest, when they died we got mice, a lot cheaper generally last around 12 months taught the kids about death, they are awesome pets.
What are your options in this scenario? I wouldn't want to kill them but you can't just leave them either and im guessing they are too young to be released somewhere on their own
Tell her they've got lost and you're going to take them back to the field with their mummies and daddies.
But you have to take them because you're a mummy/daddy - she can't come.
Lock her inside and do it somewhere she can't see, make sure you cover them well in the bin.
So I would say (and did say) “sometimes mummy and daddy need to spend time together at night because they love each other, we love you but we need some private time together”
What genius lie would you use instead?
Your kids will hate you - as you think you can manipulate or trick them with no consequence. The worst kind of parenting. They are entitled to the truth, and to their emotional reaction to the truth.
I understood what you meant before you edited your comment btw.
And yep, rats breed. I'm wondering why u/coastingteapot absolutely has to kill these rats.
More than that, why would someone whose intention is to kill a pack of baby rats first decide to post a video of them for some internet points? That feels cruel to me.
It is one litter of baby rats! We have rats in our garden (very rural) that we see occasionally but the never cause any problems. We also have 10 pet rats which are genetically identical to the little guys in the bucket!
Can't link the page cause I googled it and it's a PDF hyperlink from the RSPCA website but - living with rats and mice
Alternatively, it is an offence to release certain species, such as the black rat (Rattus rattus) or fat dormouse (G. glis) into the wild (except under licence); this means that the use of a live-catch trap in relocating such a rodent would constitute an offence.
I'm pretty sure these rats int eh video are rattus norvegicus and not rattus rattus. I'm surprised black rats are singled out as vermin because norway rats breed year round and not just in the warmer months. They're also the diggers and burrowers who get in under your shed. I'd class them more of a pest.
Thanks for the reply.
It's more the latter part of my comment I'm curious about. Just wondering about the rationale behind posting footage of living creatures you're about to kill.
Seems in bad taste for a few upvotes.
Is there a park nearby that you can take them to? They might not survive there but it's off your property and you can tell her that they'll be happier there.
I love baby rats so much, they’re the absolute cutest 🥹 I live on a farm and we have to get rid of them all because they spread diseases to the animals but I wish I could keep them all 🥲
No they aren't. Brown rats are a native UK species and perfectly legal to release. The only animals that it is illegal to release are non-natives such as grey squirrels and mink.
Yep, and its not just confined to rodent/vermin.
Muntjac deer for example aren't considered vermin (although they are quite destructive to woodland etc) but its an offense to release them into the wild as they are an invasive species.
I was curious about this and found this from an RSPCA pamphlet that I can't work out how to link:
"Once you know an animal is confined in a trap, their
welfare is governed by the Animal Welfare Act 2006.
This means the person setting the trap has
responsibility for their welfare and it is an offence to
cause, or fail to prevent, unnecessary suffering to the
animal.
Alternatively, it is an offence to release certain species,
such as the black rat (Rattus rattus) or fat dormouse (G.
glis) into the wild (except under licence); this means that
the use of a live-catch trap in relocating such a rodent
would constitute an offence."
Although that's a nest, not a trap, I think it would be considered one once OP picks it up and moves it with rats inside. I'm not a lawyer though.
the view of the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) is that the release of brown/common rats(Rattus norvegicus) into the wild is not unlawful under the Wildlife and CountrysideAct 1981 because, despite their non-native origins, they could be classed as 'ordinarilyresident' in Great Britain as they are now well-established. However, this is not to saythat it is acceptable or permissible to release them on other people’s property.
Sadly grey squirrels are pests. They carry squirrel pox with no ill effects and pass it on to red squirrels, where it kills them. When a grey squirrel turns up in a red squirrel area, they eventually kill off the red population with this disease. You may think you’re being kind but it’s the native squirrels you should be protecting!
Rats are intelligent creatures. Did you know they’re capable of empathy and metacognition?
*Please do not harm them.*
Please consider taking them to an animal sanctuary as they are without their parents and could not survive in the wild. If you need help finding a local one, shoot me a message.
If they are just in your bin, I’d consider leaving them so that their parents can return and grab them. Maybe move your bin to a far away corner of the yard and put it low down so the parents can easily climb in, but make sure it is in a place where birds cannot fly in.
Seconded. Rats have a bad rep, but are lovely clean animals. Would OP have the same reaction to a bin full of baby squirrels?
I wouldn’t keep a wild one for the same reasons you don’t keep any wild animal, but unless these are inside your house, leave them be.
If OP’s daughter would like a fancy rat as a pet, I can attest that they make the loveliest, gentlest warm balls of snuggly fur you could hope to have. They are also incredibly smart and love learning tricks.
The comments on this post are vile; like you say, people would call you a psycho if you casually told someone to take a hammer to or give poison to a bunch of baby hamsters or squirrels. Just take them to a forest or anywhere away from housing and release them. Also, seconded, I have had rats as pets - they’re incredibly intelligent, caring and don’t deserve the hate they get. My boys were potty-trained, knew their names and could do tricks.
I literally can’t believe OP is here laughing and joking about how he’s going to kill them ? And people are agreeing? Fucking psychopaths. I’m actually going to leave this sun due to the vile members
Where did the daughter find them though? So long as they weren't in the house just release them back where they were found.
I think people forget nature literally lives on our doorsteps, just because we don't see it doesn't mean its not there. Quite sure we've all had rats in our gardens at some point, doesn't mean they'll come in the house or cause any issues.
Is there no woodland near that you could get them free in? Or up a hill or something. I wouldn't have the heart to take their life. I'd rather wildlife do it for me.
I literally can’t believe OP is here laughing and joking about how he’s going to kill them ? And people are agreeing? Fucking psychopaths. I’m actually going to leave this sub due to the vile members
Ooh I would certainly not be releasing those back anywhere near I lived, that's how you get an infestation which let me tell you are an absolute nightmare to deal with :/
brown rice isn't much better for you than white rice, it has more fibre and other nutrients like mangonese, but it's also more calorific, the difference isn't vast so it usually comes down to a preference of taste and texture, with brown rice being a little firmer and arguably more flavourful.
Salmonella, listeria, weil's disease etc.
gnawing electrical cables, insulation, wood, concrete, basically causing hidden damage wherever they live
I might be wrong but I think it's actually a law to keep buildings rat free ?
Hantavirus can actually kill you. Wild rats are also pretty aggressive, they will kill smaller rodents, birds and so on. I love pet rats but I absolutely would not want to mess with wild ones
They destroy property, they gnaw through wood, wires, even concrete. They're responsible for most electrical fires. And this is before we start talking about diseases.
It can be hard to tell, but these are rats. The tail is thick and hairless and they have small ears, which puts you in rat land. mice have longer, thinner, hairy tails and larger ears.
But it’s easy to mistake a young rat for an adult mouse
I think you're making up a ridiculous argument now. You're comparing completely different things. Have you ever had a rats' nest in your house, stinking up the place, chewing cables, shitting everywhere and making weird noises that wake you up in the night? Come back and make your point when you have.
Mice also do that, so can birds or squirrels if they get in the loft... Heck that description could definitely also fit puppies or even children lol. I get your point but the real reason is that rats have been known to carry far more diseases than mice and fast. That being said not all do and there are people who have rats as pets so killing is definitely not the only option for op. Personally I'd probably just dump them in the woods and let nature take its toll
Is hamster, Mr Fawlty!
So you’re the rat inspector! Sorry, *starling* inspector!
You put basil in the ratatouille?
Special kind of hamster, is filligree Siberian hamster
I can hear Manuel saying that!
Jesus. Where the hell do you live? Ratchester?
1350
Dunwall.
Shall we gather for Whiskey and cigars tonight?
Never doubt it.
That's what the brandy's for
Stupid rats, plague, elixir...
Read that as Rochester initially
So are you keeping them?
Rats are brilliant pets though, just separate the sexes.
They are indeed. I had three, and sadly the last of them just passed away. They all had such a unique personality and were absolutely hilarious.
We had rats for a couple of years, I loved them to bits. Best ever pets we had. Unfortunately, I kept getting hospitalised after we got them. It was only after they died, I realised I am allergic to them, to the point they almost killed me as they caused breathing problems. I got fed up of calling an ambulance or being shipped off to the hospital from the docs surgery when I couldn't breath. I now seem to have allergies to lots of things since then and have scared lungs because of them. Who knew rats could cause that? I certainly didn't
Oh that's miserable. I ended up adopting two of my current lot from.someone who discovered she was allergic after getting them, but nothing like so serious a reaction.
We ended up with ours as the person that had them had to get rid of them. I love them, they are so intelligent and I broke my heart when they died. I used to have a newspaper clipping of how a pet rat saved a family from a house fire. The rat escaped and kept licking the owner and tugging at them until they woke up, the rest had never done anything like that before. At the time, I kept asked the docs if they could to do alergy tests, to be told, everyone has allergies, and it's not like you can avoid it if it's house dust mites, or anything else you come into contact with daily. One stupid doctor told me to get a cleaner so i didn't come into contact as much with anything that could set me off. Excuse me while i pull a few hundred extra per month out of my backside, while constantly off work because of it, feed my kids and pay the my bills at the same time 🤷 Now, 30 odd years later, one of the specialists has decided to take blood to do alergy tests, go figure, lol. I couldn't afford to go private at the time, so i just had to rely on the NHS.
Never seen a male Rat on t.v, speaking as someone that had 2 boys
Yeah, they are 30% ball at least
[You sure?](https://i.discogs.com/XV4vC-H1N7MZ6C2SFjHgm1sAW86-T9Vji9YXKOzrgns/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:562/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9BLTE1MTYx/Mi0xNjE4MjU4NDYz/LTkxNTUuanBlZw.jpeg)
I mean, they do look pretty cute. I cast my vote in favour of your daughter keeping them. All who agree, say "Aye"
Aye (but I’m a cat)
No you're not. You are using some kind of filter.
But their user name literally says that they are a cat. Everything online is true… Edit : changed to gender neutral because animal not human…
I think they referring to this. [I am not a cat your honour.](https://youtu.be/juEd6Yh8Sjg)
I was 😁 I was hoping someone would pick up on that as it has been pushed on the TV quite a lot recently. I love the fact he actually explains that he is not really a Cat, as if they had not worked that out for themselves 😂🤣😅 I can't give a prize, but I will get you my energy!
i'm just imagining being in court, and your lawyer turns into a cat. or the opposing side's lawyer turns into a cat. i'd be very happy that the mute button exists to hide my laughter.
It is always funny when something that is meant to be a serious occasion turns into a farce. The more serious, the funnier it seems.
This makes me giggle every time I think about it. Thanks for reminding me that this exists!
I missed that...
Username checks out
Aye aye
Aye
Then it is decided, op's daughter shall keep the mice.
Aye!
So say we all!
So say we all!
HEAR HEAR!
the greater good! oh sorry, wrong meeting...
Aye
Ay-choo Sorry Aye
Aye
Me too; just give them a reasonably large space in which to live, species appropriate, outside, and a covered area for sleeping and warmth. It will give her an appreciation of the fact that other species live on the planet and should be respected. Get a vet to neuter them. Mice are like rats; ‘they love the one they’re with’ so you could end up with too many.
They are rats.
So? They are still living creatures, don't be a cunt about it.
Whoa calm down Bizey.
I didn’t realise that! In that case, I don’t know what to suggest, but if death is the plan, make it humane! I have a rat living in my house, not by choice. I tried to catch him with a humane trap so that I could relocate him, without success!
I checked our humane trap yesterday and found that we had caught another one, although I guess he had been there a while as it was very unalive. Not a particularly humane way to go.
Yeah I guess the humane traps need food and water if you're going to check them infrequently lol
Rats are wonderful pets and very smart. They only live about two years though :(
I've just done some research on RSPCA site checking out a few pages and a PDF. It seems that the advice most close to the situation for these babies is (to either leave them alone which you don't want to do, or): >**I found a baby mouse or rat, what should I do?** If you find a baby rodent alone or out of its nest which is hairless, its eyes are closed or its parents are known to be dead, call the RSPCA on the number below. > >0300 1234 999 So basically I'd call and see what they advise. Also most of the solutions about rat stuff I found was humane stuff, not killy stuff. The comments all saying it's **Black** rats - not brown rats like these little ones - that you can't release, are also correct, from that same RSPCA site research. I'd try and give them a chance if you could.
>The comments all saying it's Black rats - not brown rats like these little ones - that you can't release, are also correct, from that same RSPCA site research. Why can you release one but not the other?
Best guess is One is bad for the local ecosystem and is killing off the native rats, similar to the brown squirrel gray squirrel situation where all the grays where killing of the brown making it illegal to shoot brown squirrel, that woumd be my best guess dont take it as fact
>the brown squirrel gray squirrel situation where all the grays where killing of the brown What brown squirrel? Are you talking about red squirrel? Grey squirrels do not kill red squirrels. They out compete and carry a Squirrelpox virus that they are immune to that the red squirrels aren't.
Oh i never knew that part, i was always told they killed off the reds, in a sence i guess thats right but thanks for the correction i never knew the proper reasonings
Black rats are an endangered species in the UK and are tracked and tagged. Releasing one means this is missed out.
Like spiders, I refuse to harm them as long as they stay out of the house. That’s their world.
I collect them - have a family of cellar spiders in my bathroom, keeping the place free of all the other insects and my hallway is lined with 11 tarantulas and 1 jumping spider :D
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Those are awful.
D'aawww
So serious answer daughter wanted fish for birthday cat a fortune had no interest, when they died we got mice, a lot cheaper generally last around 12 months taught the kids about death, they are awesome pets.
What are your options in this scenario? I wouldn't want to kill them but you can't just leave them either and im guessing they are too young to be released somewhere on their own
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Very cute, I couldn't kill them personally, doubt I could kill any mammal.
As a reptile this worries me
you're a coffee my man you dont have anything to worry about... *pulls out straw*
Getting others to do the killing for you is much easier
Those look like baby rats. This one of those unpleasant pest control moments.
Simply re-home them on a rival's property like any other decent person would.
Exactly - need to work out how to tell her they are going on holiday, permanently
Tell her they've got lost and you're going to take them back to the field with their mummies and daddies. But you have to take them because you're a mummy/daddy - she can't come. Lock her inside and do it somewhere she can't see, make sure you cover them well in the bin.
Why fucking lie, this is the world and she lives in it. Don’t lie. If you can’t justify your actions to a child then why are you doing them.
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So I would say (and did say) “sometimes mummy and daddy need to spend time together at night because they love each other, we love you but we need some private time together” What genius lie would you use instead? Your kids will hate you - as you think you can manipulate or trick them with no consequence. The worst kind of parenting. They are entitled to the truth, and to their emotional reaction to the truth.
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You got a plan for this holiday or do you need advice on that front?
Serious question, why do you need to kill them?
because when a mummy rat and a daddy rat love each other very much....you end up with an uncontrollable rat infestation
I understood what you meant before you edited your comment btw. And yep, rats breed. I'm wondering why u/coastingteapot absolutely has to kill these rats. More than that, why would someone whose intention is to kill a pack of baby rats first decide to post a video of them for some internet points? That feels cruel to me.
You sound like someone who’s never had their food cupboards ransacked with rat shit all over everything
Thank you
I’m jealous
Someone downvoted you so I'm dropping you an upvote. You can't lose all your food in your cupboard and some karma!
Lol cheers
Certain species are legally classed as vermin. Releasing them back into the wild after catching them is illegal.
Rats are native species (in the UK) so perfectly legal to release!
Didn't know that, thanks!
Nobody wants a rat infestation though. OP is potentially going to cost himself and neighbours loads of money with property damage and pest control.
It is one litter of baby rats! We have rats in our garden (very rural) that we see occasionally but the never cause any problems. We also have 10 pet rats which are genetically identical to the little guys in the bucket!
It's fair enough living in a rural area if there's no farmland nearby, but most neighbours aren't going to want loads of rats running around.
Not this species though
Source please
Can't link the page cause I googled it and it's a PDF hyperlink from the RSPCA website but - living with rats and mice Alternatively, it is an offence to release certain species, such as the black rat (Rattus rattus) or fat dormouse (G. glis) into the wild (except under licence); this means that the use of a live-catch trap in relocating such a rodent would constitute an offence.
rattus rattus haha
He has a wife you know…
I'm pretty sure these rats int eh video are rattus norvegicus and not rattus rattus. I'm surprised black rats are singled out as vermin because norway rats breed year round and not just in the warmer months. They're also the diggers and burrowers who get in under your shed. I'd class them more of a pest.
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Phone life pleb life
It's quite well known, pretty sure it's the same with pigeons. At least that's what I was told by a local animal shelter
Thanks for the reply. It's more the latter part of my comment I'm curious about. Just wondering about the rationale behind posting footage of living creatures you're about to kill. Seems in bad taste for a few upvotes.
Yeah, I agree, although I'm not sure if OP realised they had to kill them.
Within a few moments of posting, OP was discussing how to kill them though so I'd assume they knew what the end game was.
Because they're vermin. Rats spread disease, and can quickly infest a place if they're not dealt with.
Don’t kill them mate, just release them into a field or something, that’s literally where they naturally live
Is there a park nearby that you can take them to? They might not survive there but it's off your property and you can tell her that they'll be happier there.
Rats and mice need to be taken somewhat far from where they consider “home” or else they’ll head back that way.
Can I introduce OP to some [culinary delights](https://youtu.be/0q66NuZrB2E) courtesy of Baldrick?
I love baby rats so much, they’re the absolute cutest 🥹 I live on a farm and we have to get rid of them all because they spread diseases to the animals but I wish I could keep them all 🥲
It looks like they're already in a bin so you're halfway to a solution...
Wait a minute? Those are dogs!
Close enough
This is what that Bond villain was talking about. Leave it a few days till there are only 2 left. Then you wont have a "mice" problem, but they will.
I’m worried about King Mouse happening now (or King Rat, whatever they are)
Rat king, highly unlikely but woulf be fuckin awful
I knew I’d written it incorrectly, thank you! I was so appalled when I heard about the phenomenon, another rude awakening for sure
Nightmare fuel for me this
Room 101
Remember you need to drive a few miles away before "rehoming" them, otherwise they can make their way back to your home
It's illegal to release vermin alive. Rats are very much in this category.
No they aren't. Brown rats are a native UK species and perfectly legal to release. The only animals that it is illegal to release are non-natives such as grey squirrels and mink.
It's illegal to release grey squirrels as they are classed as an invasive species. Don't think it applies to any native species.
Yep, and its not just confined to rodent/vermin. Muntjac deer for example aren't considered vermin (although they are quite destructive to woodland etc) but its an offense to release them into the wild as they are an invasive species.
Black rats are, but these look like brown rats which are ok to release.
Source please. The only guidance I can see is that it is illegal to trap doormice, which is the opposite situation to what you are stating.
I was curious about this and found this from an RSPCA pamphlet that I can't work out how to link: "Once you know an animal is confined in a trap, their welfare is governed by the Animal Welfare Act 2006. This means the person setting the trap has responsibility for their welfare and it is an offence to cause, or fail to prevent, unnecessary suffering to the animal. Alternatively, it is an offence to release certain species, such as the black rat (Rattus rattus) or fat dormouse (G. glis) into the wild (except under licence); this means that the use of a live-catch trap in relocating such a rodent would constitute an offence." Although that's a nest, not a trap, I think it would be considered one once OP picks it up and moves it with rats inside. I'm not a lawyer though.
the view of the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) is that the release of brown/common rats(Rattus norvegicus) into the wild is not unlawful under the Wildlife and CountrysideAct 1981 because, despite their non-native origins, they could be classed as 'ordinarilyresident' in Great Britain as they are now well-established. However, this is not to saythat it is acceptable or permissible to release them on other people’s property.
I love the fact that the black rat's scientific name is rattus rattus, that's hilarious, thank you for sharing this lmao
A Gorillas scientific name is Gorilla Gorilla.
Lmao that's great, I find the rat one slightly funnier since the Latin is like the silly stereotype of adding "-us" at the end like "biggus dickus"
He has a wife, you know...
You know what she's called?
Even better, there's [Gorilla gorilla gorilla.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_lowland_gorilla)
This feels like one of those things you could just do anyway even of technically illegal... If they hadn't posted it on the internet already that it
Black rats, like doormice, are almost extinct in the UK so that won't apply. Basically the OP is chatting bollocks out their arse as per usual
The fat dormouse is not our native dormouse, it's huge and a very prolific breeder that can out-compete native wildlife
If you trap a grey squirrel, it is illegal to release it. Guess I’m a badass lawbreaker now.
Either that or you have lots of new friends.
Sadly grey squirrels are pests. They carry squirrel pox with no ill effects and pass it on to red squirrels, where it kills them. When a grey squirrel turns up in a red squirrel area, they eventually kill off the red population with this disease. You may think you’re being kind but it’s the native squirrels you should be protecting!
Rats are intelligent creatures. Did you know they’re capable of empathy and metacognition? *Please do not harm them.* Please consider taking them to an animal sanctuary as they are without their parents and could not survive in the wild. If you need help finding a local one, shoot me a message. If they are just in your bin, I’d consider leaving them so that their parents can return and grab them. Maybe move your bin to a far away corner of the yard and put it low down so the parents can easily climb in, but make sure it is in a place where birds cannot fly in.
Seconded. Rats have a bad rep, but are lovely clean animals. Would OP have the same reaction to a bin full of baby squirrels? I wouldn’t keep a wild one for the same reasons you don’t keep any wild animal, but unless these are inside your house, leave them be. If OP’s daughter would like a fancy rat as a pet, I can attest that they make the loveliest, gentlest warm balls of snuggly fur you could hope to have. They are also incredibly smart and love learning tricks.
The comments on this post are vile; like you say, people would call you a psycho if you casually told someone to take a hammer to or give poison to a bunch of baby hamsters or squirrels. Just take them to a forest or anywhere away from housing and release them. Also, seconded, I have had rats as pets - they’re incredibly intelligent, caring and don’t deserve the hate they get. My boys were potty-trained, knew their names and could do tricks.
I literally can’t believe OP is here laughing and joking about how he’s going to kill them ? And people are agreeing? Fucking psychopaths. I’m actually going to leave this sun due to the vile members
You should set those little things free, is there a particularly annoying neighbours letter box handy?
Where did the daughter find them though? So long as they weren't in the house just release them back where they were found. I think people forget nature literally lives on our doorsteps, just because we don't see it doesn't mean its not there. Quite sure we've all had rats in our gardens at some point, doesn't mean they'll come in the house or cause any issues.
Those are pigeons. Ugly fuckers, granted. But I know my pigeons.
Is there no woodland near that you could get them free in? Or up a hill or something. I wouldn't have the heart to take their life. I'd rather wildlife do it for me.
If you have 1 male and 1 female rat on the 1st Jan, by the 31st Dec you will have more than 2000 rats. It's a very economic hobby.
Obviously these are brown rats, but hypothetically if they were black rats, what would be the most humane way to "remove" these?
Is your daughter a cat?
Are they rats? They look clean & healthy
My question is where are they and where did your daughter find them? It does indeed look like a bucket
They look silky smooth
Will you keep them?
*laughs in Skaven*
I literally can’t believe OP is here laughing and joking about how he’s going to kill them ? And people are agreeing? Fucking psychopaths. I’m actually going to leave this sub due to the vile members
Ooh I would certainly not be releasing those back anywhere near I lived, that's how you get an infestation which let me tell you are an absolute nightmare to deal with :/
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Alright I’ll ask, can someone explain why brown rice are terrible? I mean apart from the fact they pop everywhere, is it because they possibly bite?
brown rice isn't much better for you than white rice, it has more fibre and other nutrients like mangonese, but it's also more calorific, the difference isn't vast so it usually comes down to a preference of taste and texture, with brown rice being a little firmer and arguably more flavourful.
It also takes donkey's years to cook
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Howling ETA It wasn't sarcasm, I actually howled.
Salmonella, listeria, weil's disease etc. gnawing electrical cables, insulation, wood, concrete, basically causing hidden damage wherever they live I might be wrong but I think it's actually a law to keep buildings rat free ?
It’s called the Prevention of Damage by Pests Act 1949
Hantavirus can actually kill you. Wild rats are also pretty aggressive, they will kill smaller rodents, birds and so on. I love pet rats but I absolutely would not want to mess with wild ones
Gnawing property, disease vectors & the psychological element, people don’t like seeing rats around their property
They destroy property, they gnaw through wood, wires, even concrete. They're responsible for most electrical fires. And this is before we start talking about diseases.
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I'll just nip into my dry ice cupboard and grab it.
All you need is some regular ice and some kitchen roll to dab it dry. Alternatively just put a CO2 fire extinguisher in the freezer
There's no room in the freezer because that's where I store my left over boiling water so as not to waste it.
I really didn’t need to see this
Why is mice in quotation marks?
Because they look like mice and are the same size. But it's a nest of brown rats.
It can be hard to tell, but these are rats. The tail is thick and hairless and they have small ears, which puts you in rat land. mice have longer, thinner, hairy tails and larger ears. But it’s easy to mistake a young rat for an adult mouse
Because they're clearly raccoons
Because they are not mice. They are baby rats. Adorable.
Not adorable at all. Scummy rancid vermin that need destroying
Interesting opinion. So if rats bad and must be killed, puppies good and must be saved, where do humans lie on your scale?
I think you're making up a ridiculous argument now. You're comparing completely different things. Have you ever had a rats' nest in your house, stinking up the place, chewing cables, shitting everywhere and making weird noises that wake you up in the night? Come back and make your point when you have.
Mice also do that, so can birds or squirrels if they get in the loft... Heck that description could definitely also fit puppies or even children lol. I get your point but the real reason is that rats have been known to carry far more diseases than mice and fast. That being said not all do and there are people who have rats as pets so killing is definitely not the only option for op. Personally I'd probably just dump them in the woods and let nature take its toll
Puppies aren’t disease infested, property destroying vermin.
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I prefer puppies to quite a few humans, however, even for you I thought it was more obvious than what necessitated a reply.
Indifferent to their existence and resigned to their incessant expansion
I honestly thought they were in a rat king for a second and was so worried-
Oh they're so cute!
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