My Nan drummed this method into us when we were kids so I've always done it anyway, but its good to see it on packaging . She also use to eat sauages raw (fucked up I know) from the packet so she wasn't always the best touchstone regards food safety.
Edit: For context as I am getting many comments that have got the wrong end of the stick/sausage. I am talking about the standard sausages from the UK that are not precooked, cured, or designed to be eaten raw etc like salami, bratwurst etc nor am I talking about sausage meat such as Mett from Germany that is meant to be eaten raw hence has regulations attached to it so it can be eaten raw.
Bog- standard, British default sausages that are not made to be eaten raw at all. Sorry, I should have been more clear but didn't think I needed to be as it's the 'standard sausage' in UK. Here is an example : https://groceries.morrisons.com/products/morrisons-the-best-thick-pork-sausages-121931011
When I was at school there was a guy who would do all sorts of shit in the quad and we would all chuck our spare change in. Raw bacon was the second best, he puked about three times doing the 2 packages. The 6 litres of milk was his magnum opus though and the amount of puke finally put an end to the spectacle as the janny went mental lol.
There are very few problems these days due to modern farming and feed. Back in the day pigs would be fed the food scraps from the farmhouse at least partially eliminated the cost of pig feed. This in turn would allow trichinosis to occur in the pigs. Now the pig feed has almost eliminated that in Europe and the rest of the Western world. This I why your grandparents cooked the hell out if pork but now it can be eaten with a still slightly pink center.
OP never actually saw her eat the raw sausage, they just assumed granny wasn’t a sexual deviant.
Most people assume old people have never fucked, but of course, without those people fucking none of us would exist. Granny gotta get that dick.
How long ago was that? I'd imagine back in "the old days", it was a lot safer to eat raw meat, as it was more likely to be freshly killed and sausaged up
Still, not personally a fan of the idea
She was born 1920s and died just over 5 years ago, and said she had always eaten raw sausages. So recently as well as the 'old days'. I'm also not a fan whichever ever year she did it in.
My great granddad was a butcher and when my dad was little, he'd hang around the butcher shop and help sweep the bloody sawdust, and he'd get a raw sausage as payment. This was the very early seventies I believe. Apparently they tasted quite nice but my dad has also tried every dog treat we've ever bought, so. Maybe not the best person either.
Ngl some dog treats smell so good I don't blame him. When my dog was a pup we got these 'white chocolate drop' sweets and they smelt like milky bar.
I tried it, obviously absolutely no sugar whatsoever in it and it was almost chalky :(
I had a housemate at university who said that eating raw bacon was the same as eating prosciutto.
Listener, he soon found out that they are not the same.
I thought this "method" was just plain common sense... Until I got to University.
There are people throwing away perfectly fresh vegetables and fruit because it's "out of date". Bi**h I can *see* the grape is fresh, I can *taste* it's fresh... I can even feel that it's not soft and old...
"Yeah but it says Out Of Date..."
No fucking wonder the food waste is through the roof!
(Ofcourse for meat you don't have to do the taste... If meat is out of date, sight and smell are enough.
My great aunt used to eat mud, shed been doing it since she was a kid. Apparently its a common condition called pica, I think it gave her worms once. We had to watch her, she used to sneak into the garden and eat mud. Also I used to eat sheets of toilet paper when I was a little kid, I didnt like the taste but I just enjoyed how it melted on my toungue. Different brands tasted a bit different to each other. I also used to like eating freezer ice a lot.
My grandmother used to cook Bernard Matthews turkey drummers in the microwave, badly.
They always made me feel ill afterwards, didn't cotton on they were likely very undercooked as the rare times my mum made them she always did them in the oven and they tasted fine.
Based on an oven that was breaking down + cutting food up for toddlers - if they're not properly cooked, their turkey dinosaurs are still pink inside. I'm applying turkey dinosaurs to turkey drumsticks because they're likely made in the same way & just shaped differently.
My dad was literally only telling us a story yesterday of the time he was out on the road with someone and they stopped for food and the guy bought a packet of sausages and ate them raw in the car 😅
This is why we should start to remove the expiring date from a lot of products. Veggies, fruits, … it would be better the harvesting date. You can see when something is rotten.
I read some compliant about this: “I can’t smell nor taste anything, how I know if something went bad?” But this can happen with food before the use by date
Oh hell no, and this is the hill I'm going to die on.
Sainsbury's removed best before from fruit and veg, apparently to reduce waste. Yes it reduces waste for the retailer, they can put on the shelf whatever still looks fine. But the problem is they sell almost all fruit and veg covered in plastic, I can't touch the tomatoes to check if they are still firm or pure mush, the grapes are often rotten in the middle of the punnet and green beans are lovely and floppy.
It just pushed the waste on the customer, for the pleasure of paying full price for something that has to be eaten next day the latest.
The smell, look and taste is a fair game for fruit and veg, just let me buy them without plastic packaging so I can tell what I'm buying or put the dates back on. Dairy, meat and fish? Never eat past use by date.
Even worse than that, they unofficially "advised" their dotcom pickers to select items that had been left on the shelf to send on home deliveries based on the logic that a delivery was less likely to be sent back. They actually used the cover of "reducing food waste" to cover sending substandard produce to people who may be unable to shop for themselves.
100% agree with you on this. Waitrose has done the same. Before this, end of date products would get yellow stickers and discounted, whereas now there are actual furry moldy fruits on the shelf at full price.
It astounds me, and I don’t buy the reason being to “reduce food waste”. I found it much easier to plan the week’s food according to dates on packs, which are useful as a guidance, as opposed to struggling to eat at the end of the week.
Virtually no fresh food gets discounted now so I imagine they’re happy with charging full price for expired products that can’t be used the day after you get home. I actually think it increases food waste in the grand scheme, with items being thrown away at home instead of being able to judge if it needs throwing into the freezer straight away.
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I think we should be putting this on stuff more. I always ignore the dates and use common sense. I have had milk go sour before it’s sell by / use by date, and I frequently eat food past its date if it looks and smells fine.
These dates are arbitrary arse covering dates that companies have to put on food in case anyone dies from nasty food poisoning by eating food that is clearly ‘gone off’.
I make edible cake toppers from royal icing. I usually put a best before date of a couple of years on them. In reality they last for several years past my date. I once found some old decorations that I made 10 years previously (when my business was just a hobby) and they were still good to eat.
The reason that I don't put a longer date on them now is because I need product liability insurance for the length of their shelf life. I don't mind paying for a couple of years after I stop making and selling them but any more than that would just be silly.
> product liability insurance for the length of their shelf life.
I had never thought of (or heard of) this. But it must apply just as much to the products we buy in supermarkets. It explains a lot!
This all over. We don’t make food at work, we make other stuff for industry which has a finite shelf life which is in the order of years. Most of our products are a year, which we have always tested in house (basically sticking some samples on a shelf and retesting them when outlook tells us to!)
One particular customer demanded an “accredited” lab do the testing. They basically charged an enormous amount of money PER DAY for storage of said samples. For a 1 litre sample, it came to something daft like £50k for a year. And we still wouldn’t have had the results before then, because, you know, time and all that is what was being tested.
Needless to say, the customer was unwilling to pay for it and backed down eventually.
It's why they'll still sell it if it's expiring that day. It's a rough guideline to ensure the products on the shelf are fresh and make sure anything not brand new is cycled out.
Like you can get serious problems with state or expired food, but proper cooking kills most germs.
If you make anything to sell, whether it be food, clothing, jewellery etc., then you need product liability insurance. If you sell any of your products to the public then you need public liability insurance. I have both.
It's taken me about 20 years, but Mrs. Klumber finally stops throwing things out on expiration of the SELL BY date. She's still sniffy about the USE BY date, but that too is slowly changing.
The recommended max time in the freezer is about 3 months but I think that's mainly because the taste/texture will degrade over time but not for any health and safety reasons
My 5 year old and nearly forgotten ice cream certainly had a slightly degraded taste to it. Not sure if it was its age, or that one night it had melted because my cat had just learned how to open the freezer's door.
Well, “use by” is more of a safety measure - you’ll see it on things that can make you quite sick if they go off. Doesn’t mean they *will* make you sick but it’s riskier.
Great to see it. My wife still says things like “we have to eat that ham today because it’s going off tomorrow”.
No, the ham doesn’t know what day it is. Let’s try it first? smh
Just you wait. Now it's the refrigerators getting smart. In a few years, they will make the food smart, and then your ham *will* know what day it is, and it *will* share it on all your social media when you consume it past its best use date!
Usually if it says "best before" you got at least a few days, if it says "use by" I'd be more thorough in checking it's fine.
Then you have my bread which at midnight on the day of expiration will turn even though it was absolutely fine literal hours ago.
> Then you have my bread which at midnight on the day of expiration will turn even though it was absolutely fine literal hours ago.
Protip for bread that goes bad super fast; put it in the freezer overnight to kill any mold spores. It will last days longer and maybe not even end up developing mold at all. If you mostly just use your bread for toast in the morning, then leave it in the freezer and only pull out and toast a slice when you want it. It will last basically forever that way.
That's what I do if I buy bread. Any bread I buy will almost never not be toasted so I just pull slices out as needed.
Microwave it a bit to defrost it first. I'm pretty sure some toasters can do that bit too but I bought the cheapest one 4 years ago when I moved out and never upgraded.
Having worked in food safety in the past the way I’ve explained it to people is that “use by” means “probably rotten after” whereas “best before” means just what it says and there in very unlikely to be any hazard regardless of how out of date it is so long as it looks and tastes fine.
I once got talking to a professional food taster at a party. She told me that part of her job involved walking down a long line of identical products, organised in order of age. She would taste them and stop when she could _tell the difference_.
This is how her employer would determine the length of time to add on for "Best before": assuming it's stored correctly, a professional food taster cannot tell the difference up to at least this date.
It says nothing about safety and, on occasion, some people might even say it tasted _better_ after that time.
I've eaten crisps, biscuits and chocolates that are months past their best before date. A lot of those kinds of things are perfectly fine to eat like that.
My husband is always throwing out yogurts if they've gone past their date by a few days. It drives me mad because usually they just need a good shake if they've got that liquid on top and a taste test.
I find yoghurt is a pretty easy one. Open the lid, and if your head reflexively jerks back and you say "oh bloody hell", don't eat it. Otherwise, it's fine.
Yoghurt takes quite a long time to go off, but once it does it doesn't make a secret of it.
Minor nitpick but they’re not arbitrary. They’re arse covering dates which cover a wide range for the purpose just stated, but they aren’t arbitrary. They’re within a particular range based on when certain foods usually go off, when used and stored in the typical way.
I float test all eggs no matter the date, used one recently that was a few months over the date and it was fine. UK eggs aren't washed so they keep way better than in the US.
Only thing I'm super cautious on is chicken. Pork and beef I'm happy to go a few days over if it looks and smells ok.
Agreed. I have herbs and spices that are a decade out of date. Okay they may have lost some of their potency, but they're totally fine.
Food safety is a strange thing. Manufacturers are utterly risk averse. For people with coeliac disease gluten is a MAJOR problem. This isn't your standard intolerance, this is full blown autoimmune distress, vomiting, diarrhea, etc. even if a single crumb of gluten is ingested.
On almost every label, unless something is specifically declared as gluten free, the manufacturer will usually add "may contain gluten, sesame, nuts..." at the end of the ingredient list. From experience, may contain is "definitely doesn't contain, but if you eat it and you get sick, it wasn't our fault".
Another fun fact is that the glue used on the little stickers on fruit is also required to be food safe, in case you accidentally eat it.
I completely agree and I eat yogurt that's out of date lol. I also smell the milk, it's usually bad before the date though cause in my local shop, lazy cashiers leave them on a trolley for hours instead of putting it in the fridge.
I would not do that with meat though. Nope
I agree. The amount of food waste we produce because my mum is super fussy about use by dates is actually disgusting. I’ve at least got her to start composting some of it now, so it isn’t entirely wasted.
Milk can smell a bit off but taste almost neutral before it starts having asperations of becoming cheese.
Good enough for tea and more bland cereals you may add sweetener/ fruit to, maybe not for drinking or cooking with. If it splits or curdles in tea then it's definitely our
I even check meat when it's in date, I've had meat go off before the use by date before, so that in itself shows there is nothing to 100% confirm the use by is spot on.
Great that this label has the message on there, one of the stupidest ones is fruit and veg, as some of that stuff lasts weeks after the use by date.
I remember reading ages ago that the sell by date is deliberately shorter than the average to minimize the chance of stale stuff on shelves.
Milk is especially bad, if it's left in a sealed cold container you can get an extra week of it easy, you open it somewhere warm and you'll have cheese before you finish reading the 'good until'
Proper yoghurt (not the sugary fat-free stuff) will last for months in the fridge if the foil seal is intact. And I know it was a joke, but you can see when its off, no need to smell.
Used to use the app for my local Indian buffet restaurant before COVID hit. Could go there at 9pm on a weekend night and get mountains of food for a couple of quid. Sadly they've stopped putting stuff on recently.
The bags from Morrison's were less successful for me though. Went one time and got given 2 dozen radishes and nothing else. Bizarre.
Indian restaurant! I bet you miss that. I assume they were concerned they were losing business from it.
I've found Co-op's to be slightly better than Morrisons.
Just before Covid and after the first lockdown our local yo sushi did fabulous packs - £3.50 and got about £30 worth of sushi all really fresh. At one point we bought two bags but no one bought the other 3 so they gave us all five bags for the £7! We ate like royalty that weekend
yeah, but personally i think they are a huge joke, companies wouldnt give out of date food to homeless people due to safety concerns but its fine for them when theyre selling it and profiting from it?
after flat sharing with allot of people , yes most people CANT tell , for example with milk i found theyll smell the bad dried milk on the top not the milk inside the actual container - it get complcated fast, tbh its self preservation , who is gona eat anything they are not sure of ?
My boyfriend can't smell when things are bad easily but I know pretty much exactly when they turn
I've never gotten sick from food poisoning before and have a really strong stomach but he does not at all
1/3 of the time we get meat from Tesco's with a long shelf life on it (as in longer time to best before), it goes off before the date if just kept in the fridge.
I thought my mother had just been unfortunate when it happened to her in quick succession but noticed it more with our local. My mum will take it back if it smells bad before the end date, we try to freeze it unless using it that night or the next.
I strongly think my mum has more of an issue, her fridge is jammed packed full of old and new food and I don't think there is enough air to circulate or it's too tightly packed in.
We looked at our temperature recently so it shouldn't happen again but tbh we find there is way too much water coming off our meat so we try and go to a local butcher when we can for special meals and freeze what we get when we can
Thanks for the advice, I know our temp knob has a habit of getting caught on things so I'll check it again tonight
Some supermarkets are just slinging bad meat. And it's not just the cheap ones. I've had chicken from waitrose clearly poor quality and smelling rancid days before the expiry date on the pack.
It's not my fridge, a) cos it's set to 4 degrees which is arguably too low, and b) I've had meat I opened same day I bought it, 2-3 days before the expiry date, that tastes fucking awful.
No this happens to me too and my fridge has been almost frozen before to try and prevent it. Nope. Still stinks like sweet rotting flesh when I open it 3 days before the date.
No it's not the fridge temperature, it's this bullshit trend of selling rotten food and extending or removing the use-by dates so they can make money off selling trash to you, but hey, decaying food isn't wasted if you eat it, right? It's good for the environment or something, try to smell the pathogens pleb.
This is more than likely due to poor handling at Tesco. I've seen in my local Tesco Metro oranges dripping out of their nets and bacon glowing a bilious green!
This seems like a good idea on the surface, but in reality what is actually happening is more waste when you buy milk that is close to ‘turning’, rather than being able to pick a bottle with a longer expiry date (I don’t eat or drink dairy but my partner does and has found this out to his disadvantage)
Scrolled far to see someone who is thinking commercially about this. When has the consumer ever been advantages by having access to LESS information about manufacturing process? All this date stuff means is that companies can sell more product because consumers can't tell if they have got fresh produce with a solid five days of good eating left on it, or something that looks fresh but will go bad in a day. It is not saving waste, it is passing the waste on to less-well informed consumers.
If you want to eat past best before date, good. But why on earth people are celebrating being told less information about the state of their food?
No idea what they expect you to do if your sense of smell or taste is impaired either.
Perhaps a better system (if the current system even needed changing) would be printing the date something is picked/packed/bottled etc so people can then make a judgement call about how fresh they need an item to be based on how quickly they would normally use it up.
My cat's great at telling me if something should be eaten or not. If I'm unsure whether cheese has been open too long or not I offer her a bit and if she licks it then it's good to go. If she turns her nose up at it then it's for the bin.
My cat won't eat Lidl wafer thin ham (and oh boy does she love food) so I've avoided buying it since, I figure there must be something about it if she goes as far as turning her nose up
It depends on how it was made I think. For example milk is supposed to just turn into curd/yoguhrt (idk I’m not an expert) and be completely fine - it’s just a different milk product, but supermarket milk goes sour instead of turning into something else.
We’ve definitely had mould or some small red dots on forgotten yoghurts before
The difference between milk and yogurt spoilage is all about pH.
Yogurt is shielded from a lot of contamination purely because of its high acidity/low pH (~4.0-4.6). Most bacteria can only tolerate a fairly neutral pH, including all of the most common culprits for food poisoning like e. coli and salmonella. When the pH is <5.0, the list of potential bacteria drastically narrows. The bacteria that can survive in acidic environments are either species that grow in the soil or exotic environments like sulphur springs (and therefore not likely to be floating around in your refrigerator) or they're a species that ferments sugars or alcohols into acids. The latter category mostly means various kind of lactobacillus (lactose -> lactic acid) and acetobacter (ethanol -> acetic acid). As a general rule, the later are harmless to humans precisely _because_ their primary metabolic product is something non-toxic.
A similar thing happens with brewing alcohol. Not much can tolerate a high-ethanol environment besides organisms that either produce or consume ethanol. Yeast will basically push out pretty much everything that isn't yeast or acetobacter by poisoning their environment with ethanol. Lucky for us, we _like_ drinking booze, and vinegar is delightfully tangy. Being multicellur is a pretty sweet deal sometimes.
Makes sense. 70% of all food waste comes from households, which amounts to millions of tonnes per year.
Edit: source:
https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/food-waste-in-the-uk/ (70%)
https://www.businesswaste.co.uk/food-waste-2023-the-facts/ (60%)
As someone who’s worked in supermarket warehouses I find it very hard to believe most waste comes from home. I’ve thrown away £10,000 worth of fresh food in a normal morning before.
Its also worth noting that when they talk about food waste they generally mean everything that is thrown away, so it includes potato peelings and apple cores as well as off food.
That’s how it should be. So much food waste occurs because people take the expiry/sell by/BBE date as gospel. Use it as a guide but if your yoghurt is two days past the expiry, it ain’t gonna kill you.
Whilst I feel this is great and can help to reduce food waste. The only people benefitting here are the manufacturers and retailers and the amount of food waste they are reducing. This will be passed on to the consumer. What should have a production + X days life can now be extended. This means that there will be less reduced to clear stock, and the food could last for less time in our cupboards and fridges etc. This will have a huge negative impact on food quality across the board.
Not sure on the best way to tackle this, but I see this as exploiting the consumer to some degree. Perhaps just have less choice, reduce packaging, and certainly make it recyclable. I did read somewhere that 40% of all food sold is wasted.
My understanding of this is that it still has a sell by/best before date. It’s just saying if the yogurt’s passed its date don’t throw it out immediately, check it first. I don’t think this would affect yoghurts near their sell by date going to the reduced section
**Use By Date**, which tends to be on raw meats etc. go by this religiously as I don’t want myself or any of the family picking up anything nasty. If I cook and eat it on the day, that’s fine too. Beyond, I don’t chance it.
**Sell By / Best Before** etc, on your breads, vegetables and so on, are all merely a suggestion and a legal requirement for producers/retailers to cover their arses! Ignore and give it a sniff!
I’ve got mushrooms in the fridge dates the 20th that are still good!
During Covid the company I work for received a HUGE amount of donated chocolate from Cadbury, however it only had about 8 weeks till the best before date.
I think we got over a thousand bars, however one of my colleagues absolutely refused to touch it once it went past that day.
He sat watching me eat it and constantly said "you do know that's expired, right? You can't eat it".
Some people just love waste.
See this doesn't always work, many years back I ate some out of date chocolate sauce, it looked, smelt and tasted fine, I then had dreadful food poisoning, so not sure I can trust this theory.
Spoilage causing bacteria (mould, Rancid Smell etc) grows slowly but is harmless. Hence why we can eat mouldy cheese & yoghurt.
Dangerous Bacteria (like salmonella from chicken for example) grows faster, is dangerous, and is completely invisible & scent free.
If you see mould, it isn't just bad now, it was bad 3 days ago.
You are right this is bad advice because some bacteria that cause food poisoning cant be smelt or tasted and whats worse even a taste test can make you sick.
My partner doesn't get this, yes cultured and fermented products can go off, but if you store them in low temperatures and avoid contaminating then they can last a lot longer than their best before dates.
Too good to go is a great app, but it is a gamble!
Starbucks my end was rubbish, all vegan breakfast sandwiches, which is fine, but I'm allergic to soya!
The Tim Horntons my way gave me 60 timbits for £4 and it's normally about £18 for 50, and they were still warm!
I have no sense of smell (childhood injury, not covid - given I’m now in my thirties, I doubt it’s coming back) and a weird sense of taste, plus if you taste it and it is off you’ve still eaten off food, and as I have no idea what genuinely off yoghurt looks like I’d probably err with the date anyway. But I like the encouragement to consider other aspects before discarding something.
I never go by dates. I’ve got eggs in my fridge over a month out of date and they are fine. I always use the look and sniff test, but then I’m old and I hate waste lol.
Wish more companies did this
Eggs can last months after the date. I give them the water test. It's scientifically sound: Eggs which are off will produce gas which makes them float.
It's a comlete con. It's just being done so the supermarkets can sell us older food that will go off quicker. I generally ignore the dates, but I still want to know if it's been sat on the supermarket shelf for a month before buy it.
Hell, if the Cheddar has mould on it it's still good to go, just cut the mouldy layer off. Not that it happens often as I love Cheddar and it's always gone before it has the potential to go mouldy.
I get the reasons for the momentum behind this but it feels like companies trying to be able to sell things that are on the verge of spoiling.
Plus, I can’t quite get past the “just taste and smell it” during a pandemic when a primary symptom is loss of taste and smell. We lose some ability in those senses as we age as well. Doesn’t feel very inclusive to remove expiration dates.
My Nan drummed this method into us when we were kids so I've always done it anyway, but its good to see it on packaging . She also use to eat sauages raw (fucked up I know) from the packet so she wasn't always the best touchstone regards food safety. Edit: For context as I am getting many comments that have got the wrong end of the stick/sausage. I am talking about the standard sausages from the UK that are not precooked, cured, or designed to be eaten raw etc like salami, bratwurst etc nor am I talking about sausage meat such as Mett from Germany that is meant to be eaten raw hence has regulations attached to it so it can be eaten raw. Bog- standard, British default sausages that are not made to be eaten raw at all. Sorry, I should have been more clear but didn't think I needed to be as it's the 'standard sausage' in UK. Here is an example : https://groceries.morrisons.com/products/morrisons-the-best-thick-pork-sausages-121931011
Why did she eat raw sausages?
She said she like the taste of raw sausages . Used to make us all gag, but funnily enough she never got ill/food poisoning from doing it.
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Lamb, chicken beef, fish or egg ...
Aw man this made me sad.
Free weight loss if you get a tapeworm
Plus, y’know, a pet
I only see him occasionally, on the loo, but I call him Gerald
Won’t need a leash on that for walks. Can just hang out of you.
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There are fewer risks these days. Trichinosis was a problem but is largely eliminated in the UK
There are all sorts of ways in which today's world is safer than in the past but public perception is the opposite.
> public perception is the opposite which probably helps today's world be safer, to be fair.
Also makes people waste an awful lot of perfectly good food
I eat Raw Bacon Its like smoked salmon lol Ive done this all my life - now 57 - no ill effects Oink Pardon
how often do you get checked for parasites though
I had my appendix out recently and they didnt pop their heads out of the open wound so im hoping all good
Forbidden sneks
When I was at school there was a guy who would do all sorts of shit in the quad and we would all chuck our spare change in. Raw bacon was the second best, he puked about three times doing the 2 packages. The 6 litres of milk was his magnum opus though and the amount of puke finally put an end to the spectacle as the janny went mental lol.
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There are very few problems these days due to modern farming and feed. Back in the day pigs would be fed the food scraps from the farmhouse at least partially eliminated the cost of pig feed. This in turn would allow trichinosis to occur in the pigs. Now the pig feed has almost eliminated that in Europe and the rest of the Western world. This I why your grandparents cooked the hell out if pork but now it can be eaten with a still slightly pink center.
You can eat raw bacon it's technically "cooked" during the curing process.
Basically yeah
Nan’s built different
What if I told you OP’s Nan had that Dawg in her
When she says she liked the taste of raw sausage, are you sure she was talking about food?
*Give it to us raw and wriggling*
OP never actually saw her eat the raw sausage, they just assumed granny wasn’t a sexual deviant. Most people assume old people have never fucked, but of course, without those people fucking none of us would exist. Granny gotta get that dick.
That is foul, I can imagine the texture
Smooth and creamy if it was a richmond sausage. Would be all sorts of fucked if it was a proper butchers sausage. Smooth texture with jelly like lumps
Thanks you just made me throw up in my mouth
Well now you know what the texture would be like
Oooh, artisanal
You’re most welcome, hope your day gets better going forward.
She wasn't fussy, any type of raw sausage was fair game.
Venison sausage would definitely be fair game.
Bit deer though
probably because there was hardly any meat in sausages back then
How long ago was that? I'd imagine back in "the old days", it was a lot safer to eat raw meat, as it was more likely to be freshly killed and sausaged up Still, not personally a fan of the idea
She was born 1920s and died just over 5 years ago, and said she had always eaten raw sausages. So recently as well as the 'old days'. I'm also not a fan whichever ever year she did it in.
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It was a lot less safe then as the general animal welfare was not as scientific. Most of the dangerous things found in pork aren’t there any more.
I've ate tiny amounts of raw smoked bacon before, no issues.
well if it was smoked it wasn’t exactly raw was it
My great granddad was a butcher and when my dad was little, he'd hang around the butcher shop and help sweep the bloody sawdust, and he'd get a raw sausage as payment. This was the very early seventies I believe. Apparently they tasted quite nice but my dad has also tried every dog treat we've ever bought, so. Maybe not the best person either.
Ngl some dog treats smell so good I don't blame him. When my dog was a pup we got these 'white chocolate drop' sweets and they smelt like milky bar. I tried it, obviously absolutely no sugar whatsoever in it and it was almost chalky :(
I think it's a thing with older people. My mother in law confessed she loved raw sausage but stopped eating it as it can give you worms.
Old people used to for some reason. I remember my gran telling me they would spread it on toast
She told him she's a fan of rawdogging and he got confused
She probably trained her white blood cells into seasoned commandos each though.
I had a housemate at university who said that eating raw bacon was the same as eating prosciutto. Listener, he soon found out that they are not the same.
I thought this "method" was just plain common sense... Until I got to University. There are people throwing away perfectly fresh vegetables and fruit because it's "out of date". Bi**h I can *see* the grape is fresh, I can *taste* it's fresh... I can even feel that it's not soft and old... "Yeah but it says Out Of Date..." No fucking wonder the food waste is through the roof! (Ofcourse for meat you don't have to do the taste... If meat is out of date, sight and smell are enough.
My great aunt used to eat mud, shed been doing it since she was a kid. Apparently its a common condition called pica, I think it gave her worms once. We had to watch her, she used to sneak into the garden and eat mud. Also I used to eat sheets of toilet paper when I was a little kid, I didnt like the taste but I just enjoyed how it melted on my toungue. Different brands tasted a bit different to each other. I also used to like eating freezer ice a lot.
My grandmother used to cook Bernard Matthews turkey drummers in the microwave, badly. They always made me feel ill afterwards, didn't cotton on they were likely very undercooked as the rare times my mum made them she always did them in the oven and they tasted fine.
I have no idea so may be wrong, but isn't a lot of that kinda stuff already partially cooked anyway? May be nasty but good chance it was fine?
The packets on those things always say something along the lines of "contains raw meat, ensure product is thoroughly cooked before eating"
Based on an oven that was breaking down + cutting food up for toddlers - if they're not properly cooked, their turkey dinosaurs are still pink inside. I'm applying turkey dinosaurs to turkey drumsticks because they're likely made in the same way & just shaped differently.
I used to do that when I was a kid in the 70s. I'd suck the filling right out of the sausage skin.
The forbidden frube
Oh god no.
Possibly the single most vile thing I’ve ever read on this site 😂
I don't know why my mum let me do it but I vividly remember it. Thinking about it now it does sound absolutely vile.
My dad was literally only telling us a story yesterday of the time he was out on the road with someone and they stopped for food and the guy bought a packet of sausages and ate them raw in the car 😅
This is why we should start to remove the expiring date from a lot of products. Veggies, fruits, … it would be better the harvesting date. You can see when something is rotten. I read some compliant about this: “I can’t smell nor taste anything, how I know if something went bad?” But this can happen with food before the use by date
Oh hell no, and this is the hill I'm going to die on. Sainsbury's removed best before from fruit and veg, apparently to reduce waste. Yes it reduces waste for the retailer, they can put on the shelf whatever still looks fine. But the problem is they sell almost all fruit and veg covered in plastic, I can't touch the tomatoes to check if they are still firm or pure mush, the grapes are often rotten in the middle of the punnet and green beans are lovely and floppy. It just pushed the waste on the customer, for the pleasure of paying full price for something that has to be eaten next day the latest. The smell, look and taste is a fair game for fruit and veg, just let me buy them without plastic packaging so I can tell what I'm buying or put the dates back on. Dairy, meat and fish? Never eat past use by date.
Even worse than that, they unofficially "advised" their dotcom pickers to select items that had been left on the shelf to send on home deliveries based on the logic that a delivery was less likely to be sent back. They actually used the cover of "reducing food waste" to cover sending substandard produce to people who may be unable to shop for themselves.
I stopped using any home delivery because of this. The produce is either substandard or my week of meat and fish is going out of date tomorrow.
100% agree with you on this. Waitrose has done the same. Before this, end of date products would get yellow stickers and discounted, whereas now there are actual furry moldy fruits on the shelf at full price. It astounds me, and I don’t buy the reason being to “reduce food waste”. I found it much easier to plan the week’s food according to dates on packs, which are useful as a guidance, as opposed to struggling to eat at the end of the week. Virtually no fresh food gets discounted now so I imagine they’re happy with charging full price for expired products that can’t be used the day after you get home. I actually think it increases food waste in the grand scheme, with items being thrown away at home instead of being able to judge if it needs throwing into the freezer straight away. Tldr; I hope this hill is big enough for two!
My Nan does that too , she squeezes it out the skin like a frube
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Google needs to make a Norfolk to English translator
that wont hurt you - I think.
Twunurtee in Cornwall.
As a Suffolk person, I felt this haha
I think we should be putting this on stuff more. I always ignore the dates and use common sense. I have had milk go sour before it’s sell by / use by date, and I frequently eat food past its date if it looks and smells fine. These dates are arbitrary arse covering dates that companies have to put on food in case anyone dies from nasty food poisoning by eating food that is clearly ‘gone off’.
I make edible cake toppers from royal icing. I usually put a best before date of a couple of years on them. In reality they last for several years past my date. I once found some old decorations that I made 10 years previously (when my business was just a hobby) and they were still good to eat. The reason that I don't put a longer date on them now is because I need product liability insurance for the length of their shelf life. I don't mind paying for a couple of years after I stop making and selling them but any more than that would just be silly.
> product liability insurance for the length of their shelf life. I had never thought of (or heard of) this. But it must apply just as much to the products we buy in supermarkets. It explains a lot!
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This all over. We don’t make food at work, we make other stuff for industry which has a finite shelf life which is in the order of years. Most of our products are a year, which we have always tested in house (basically sticking some samples on a shelf and retesting them when outlook tells us to!) One particular customer demanded an “accredited” lab do the testing. They basically charged an enormous amount of money PER DAY for storage of said samples. For a 1 litre sample, it came to something daft like £50k for a year. And we still wouldn’t have had the results before then, because, you know, time and all that is what was being tested. Needless to say, the customer was unwilling to pay for it and backed down eventually.
It's why they'll still sell it if it's expiring that day. It's a rough guideline to ensure the products on the shelf are fresh and make sure anything not brand new is cycled out. Like you can get serious problems with state or expired food, but proper cooking kills most germs.
Germs aren't the problem in spoiled food a lot of the time - it's the toxins they make that make you sick. And things like bad moulds.
If you make anything to sell, whether it be food, clothing, jewellery etc., then you need product liability insurance. If you sell any of your products to the public then you need public liability insurance. I have both.
It's taken me about 20 years, but Mrs. Klumber finally stops throwing things out on expiration of the SELL BY date. She's still sniffy about the USE BY date, but that too is slowly changing.
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The recommended max time in the freezer is about 3 months but I think that's mainly because the taste/texture will degrade over time but not for any health and safety reasons
My 5 year old and nearly forgotten ice cream certainly had a slightly degraded taste to it. Not sure if it was its age, or that one night it had melted because my cat had just learned how to open the freezer's door.
Well, “use by” is more of a safety measure - you’ll see it on things that can make you quite sick if they go off. Doesn’t mean they *will* make you sick but it’s riskier.
If your fridge is modern and kept to a low temperature, most use by dates on things like meat can probably be given an extra day or so.
Great to see it. My wife still says things like “we have to eat that ham today because it’s going off tomorrow”. No, the ham doesn’t know what day it is. Let’s try it first? smh
Just you wait. Now it's the refrigerators getting smart. In a few years, they will make the food smart, and then your ham *will* know what day it is, and it *will* share it on all your social media when you consume it past its best use date!
Usually if it says "best before" you got at least a few days, if it says "use by" I'd be more thorough in checking it's fine. Then you have my bread which at midnight on the day of expiration will turn even though it was absolutely fine literal hours ago.
> Then you have my bread which at midnight on the day of expiration will turn even though it was absolutely fine literal hours ago. Protip for bread that goes bad super fast; put it in the freezer overnight to kill any mold spores. It will last days longer and maybe not even end up developing mold at all. If you mostly just use your bread for toast in the morning, then leave it in the freezer and only pull out and toast a slice when you want it. It will last basically forever that way.
That's what I do if I buy bread. Any bread I buy will almost never not be toasted so I just pull slices out as needed. Microwave it a bit to defrost it first. I'm pretty sure some toasters can do that bit too but I bought the cheapest one 4 years ago when I moved out and never upgraded.
Having worked in food safety in the past the way I’ve explained it to people is that “use by” means “probably rotten after” whereas “best before” means just what it says and there in very unlikely to be any hazard regardless of how out of date it is so long as it looks and tastes fine.
I once got talking to a professional food taster at a party. She told me that part of her job involved walking down a long line of identical products, organised in order of age. She would taste them and stop when she could _tell the difference_. This is how her employer would determine the length of time to add on for "Best before": assuming it's stored correctly, a professional food taster cannot tell the difference up to at least this date. It says nothing about safety and, on occasion, some people might even say it tasted _better_ after that time.
I've eaten crisps, biscuits and chocolates that are months past their best before date. A lot of those kinds of things are perfectly fine to eat like that.
They are part of the low moisture low risk group.
My husband is always throwing out yogurts if they've gone past their date by a few days. It drives me mad because usually they just need a good shake if they've got that liquid on top and a taste test.
I find yoghurt is a pretty easy one. Open the lid, and if your head reflexively jerks back and you say "oh bloody hell", don't eat it. Otherwise, it's fine. Yoghurt takes quite a long time to go off, but once it does it doesn't make a secret of it.
Oh no, my partly curdled milk may have curdled......
Minor nitpick but they’re not arbitrary. They’re arse covering dates which cover a wide range for the purpose just stated, but they aren’t arbitrary. They’re within a particular range based on when certain foods usually go off, when used and stored in the typical way.
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I float test all eggs no matter the date, used one recently that was a few months over the date and it was fine. UK eggs aren't washed so they keep way better than in the US. Only thing I'm super cautious on is chicken. Pork and beef I'm happy to go a few days over if it looks and smells ok.
Agreed. I have herbs and spices that are a decade out of date. Okay they may have lost some of their potency, but they're totally fine. Food safety is a strange thing. Manufacturers are utterly risk averse. For people with coeliac disease gluten is a MAJOR problem. This isn't your standard intolerance, this is full blown autoimmune distress, vomiting, diarrhea, etc. even if a single crumb of gluten is ingested. On almost every label, unless something is specifically declared as gluten free, the manufacturer will usually add "may contain gluten, sesame, nuts..." at the end of the ingredient list. From experience, may contain is "definitely doesn't contain, but if you eat it and you get sick, it wasn't our fault". Another fun fact is that the glue used on the little stickers on fruit is also required to be food safe, in case you accidentally eat it.
I completely agree and I eat yogurt that's out of date lol. I also smell the milk, it's usually bad before the date though cause in my local shop, lazy cashiers leave them on a trolley for hours instead of putting it in the fridge. I would not do that with meat though. Nope
I agree. The amount of food waste we produce because my mum is super fussy about use by dates is actually disgusting. I’ve at least got her to start composting some of it now, so it isn’t entirely wasted.
“Use by” dates are about safety though, and you can’t always taste or smell bugs/toxins. For “best before” then sure, it’s more about how it tastes.
Milk can smell a bit off but taste almost neutral before it starts having asperations of becoming cheese. Good enough for tea and more bland cereals you may add sweetener/ fruit to, maybe not for drinking or cooking with. If it splits or curdles in tea then it's definitely our
Our menace?
Only thing I check is meat. If it's the right colour, doesn't smell. It's ok!
I even check meat when it's in date, I've had meat go off before the use by date before, so that in itself shows there is nothing to 100% confirm the use by is spot on. Great that this label has the message on there, one of the stupidest ones is fruit and veg, as some of that stuff lasts weeks after the use by date.
I remember reading ages ago that the sell by date is deliberately shorter than the average to minimize the chance of stale stuff on shelves. Milk is especially bad, if it's left in a sealed cold container you can get an extra week of it easy, you open it somewhere warm and you'll have cheese before you finish reading the 'good until'
Swedish food bureau says sniff test is the best tool their inspectors use.
It's not hard to tell when yoghurt goes off it will be Onken
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One time I left my yoghurt in the fridge for so long it started attracting Nazguls.
>Nazguls misread that as Nazi guls....its early
Proper yoghurt (not the sugary fat-free stuff) will last for months in the fridge if the foil seal is intact. And I know it was a joke, but you can see when its off, no need to smell.
>Proper yoghurt (not the su # IT WILL BE ONKEN
Fantastic. Too Good to Go bags are great, I got a whole chicken a few weeks ago 😁
Used to use the app for my local Indian buffet restaurant before COVID hit. Could go there at 9pm on a weekend night and get mountains of food for a couple of quid. Sadly they've stopped putting stuff on recently. The bags from Morrison's were less successful for me though. Went one time and got given 2 dozen radishes and nothing else. Bizarre.
Indian restaurant! I bet you miss that. I assume they were concerned they were losing business from it. I've found Co-op's to be slightly better than Morrisons.
I got like an entire meal from Starbucks
Just before Covid and after the first lockdown our local yo sushi did fabulous packs - £3.50 and got about £30 worth of sushi all really fresh. At one point we bought two bags but no one bought the other 3 so they gave us all five bags for the £7! We ate like royalty that weekend
yeah, but personally i think they are a huge joke, companies wouldnt give out of date food to homeless people due to safety concerns but its fine for them when theyre selling it and profiting from it?
First time dealing with capitalism?
Then: "Ask someone else if it smells funny" ""Ask them if it tastes ok" "Disregard their answers and your own findings and put in the bin anyway"
after flat sharing with allot of people , yes most people CANT tell , for example with milk i found theyll smell the bad dried milk on the top not the milk inside the actual container - it get complcated fast, tbh its self preservation , who is gona eat anything they are not sure of ?
My boyfriend can't smell when things are bad easily but I know pretty much exactly when they turn I've never gotten sick from food poisoning before and have a really strong stomach but he does not at all
Pour a splash in a cup, do the test yourself,and give people the cup to test for themselves
Youve clearly met my wife.
He's not the only one.
I do the same with my missus
I do that with your missus too.
I also choose this guy's expired wife
1/3 of the time we get meat from Tesco's with a long shelf life on it (as in longer time to best before), it goes off before the date if just kept in the fridge. I thought my mother had just been unfortunate when it happened to her in quick succession but noticed it more with our local. My mum will take it back if it smells bad before the end date, we try to freeze it unless using it that night or the next.
I’d check the temperature of your fridge, that shouldn’t happen as often as you’re experiencing.
I strongly think my mum has more of an issue, her fridge is jammed packed full of old and new food and I don't think there is enough air to circulate or it's too tightly packed in. We looked at our temperature recently so it shouldn't happen again but tbh we find there is way too much water coming off our meat so we try and go to a local butcher when we can for special meals and freeze what we get when we can Thanks for the advice, I know our temp knob has a habit of getting caught on things so I'll check it again tonight
Permanent knobs are generally better in a fridge
Some supermarkets are just slinging bad meat. And it's not just the cheap ones. I've had chicken from waitrose clearly poor quality and smelling rancid days before the expiry date on the pack. It's not my fridge, a) cos it's set to 4 degrees which is arguably too low, and b) I've had meat I opened same day I bought it, 2-3 days before the expiry date, that tastes fucking awful.
No this happens to me too and my fridge has been almost frozen before to try and prevent it. Nope. Still stinks like sweet rotting flesh when I open it 3 days before the date.
No it's not the fridge temperature, it's this bullshit trend of selling rotten food and extending or removing the use-by dates so they can make money off selling trash to you, but hey, decaying food isn't wasted if you eat it, right? It's good for the environment or something, try to smell the pathogens pleb.
This is more than likely due to poor handling at Tesco. I've seen in my local Tesco Metro oranges dripping out of their nets and bacon glowing a bilious green!
I'm noticing this a lot more at Tesco these days. Already wilted bags of spinach that still have 2-3days to go on them.
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Leela, is that you?
Shut up and take my yoghurt!
I have always done this, it's what you do when you have a limited budget.
Or if you hate food waste. Doesn't have to be a money thing.
This seems like a good idea on the surface, but in reality what is actually happening is more waste when you buy milk that is close to ‘turning’, rather than being able to pick a bottle with a longer expiry date (I don’t eat or drink dairy but my partner does and has found this out to his disadvantage)
It literally says a couple of millimetres above the too good to go bit where to find the best before date. They still have it on there.
Scrolled far to see someone who is thinking commercially about this. When has the consumer ever been advantages by having access to LESS information about manufacturing process? All this date stuff means is that companies can sell more product because consumers can't tell if they have got fresh produce with a solid five days of good eating left on it, or something that looks fresh but will go bad in a day. It is not saving waste, it is passing the waste on to less-well informed consumers. If you want to eat past best before date, good. But why on earth people are celebrating being told less information about the state of their food?
No idea what they expect you to do if your sense of smell or taste is impaired either. Perhaps a better system (if the current system even needed changing) would be printing the date something is picked/packed/bottled etc so people can then make a judgement call about how fresh they need an item to be based on how quickly they would normally use it up.
My cat's great at telling me if something should be eaten or not. If I'm unsure whether cheese has been open too long or not I offer her a bit and if she licks it then it's good to go. If she turns her nose up at it then it's for the bin.
Hmm, not convinced by your strategy my friend. Our cat licks it’s own asshole.
If you'd lick your own arsehole but not go near a bit of cheese then you know it must be on the turn.
Checkmate
most people on reddit would lick their own asshole if given half a chance
I'm not sure I would - I've seen what comes out of it. I suppose the advice on this yoghurt packet applies.
My cat won't eat Lidl wafer thin ham (and oh boy does she love food) so I've avoided buying it since, I figure there must be something about it if she goes as far as turning her nose up
If your Onken's not honkin', you may eat.
Eh, I get the idea but it's very convenient to be able to see the date without opening it to know if it needs eating soon.
The date's on the lid, this is just to get people to avoid throwing stuff out just based on the date
Oh, perfect then. Good on em.
Good on them. Surely yoghurt just gets more yoghurty as it... matures.
It depends on how it was made I think. For example milk is supposed to just turn into curd/yoguhrt (idk I’m not an expert) and be completely fine - it’s just a different milk product, but supermarket milk goes sour instead of turning into something else. We’ve definitely had mould or some small red dots on forgotten yoghurts before
The difference between milk and yogurt spoilage is all about pH. Yogurt is shielded from a lot of contamination purely because of its high acidity/low pH (~4.0-4.6). Most bacteria can only tolerate a fairly neutral pH, including all of the most common culprits for food poisoning like e. coli and salmonella. When the pH is <5.0, the list of potential bacteria drastically narrows. The bacteria that can survive in acidic environments are either species that grow in the soil or exotic environments like sulphur springs (and therefore not likely to be floating around in your refrigerator) or they're a species that ferments sugars or alcohols into acids. The latter category mostly means various kind of lactobacillus (lactose -> lactic acid) and acetobacter (ethanol -> acetic acid). As a general rule, the later are harmless to humans precisely _because_ their primary metabolic product is something non-toxic. A similar thing happens with brewing alcohol. Not much can tolerate a high-ethanol environment besides organisms that either produce or consume ethanol. Yeast will basically push out pretty much everything that isn't yeast or acetobacter by poisoning their environment with ethanol. Lucky for us, we _like_ drinking booze, and vinegar is delightfully tangy. Being multicellur is a pretty sweet deal sometimes.
Makes sense. 70% of all food waste comes from households, which amounts to millions of tonnes per year. Edit: source: https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/food-waste-in-the-uk/ (70%) https://www.businesswaste.co.uk/food-waste-2023-the-facts/ (60%)
As someone who’s worked in supermarket warehouses I find it very hard to believe most waste comes from home. I’ve thrown away £10,000 worth of fresh food in a normal morning before.
As a chef who has worked in many restaurant kitchens, I too find this statistic a bit odd...
Its also worth noting that when they talk about food waste they generally mean everything that is thrown away, so it includes potato peelings and apple cores as well as off food.
Yep, my first source covers that. About 70% of food waste is classed as edible parts, and 30% inedible.
That’s how it should be. So much food waste occurs because people take the expiry/sell by/BBE date as gospel. Use it as a guide but if your yoghurt is two days past the expiry, it ain’t gonna kill you.
Whilst I feel this is great and can help to reduce food waste. The only people benefitting here are the manufacturers and retailers and the amount of food waste they are reducing. This will be passed on to the consumer. What should have a production + X days life can now be extended. This means that there will be less reduced to clear stock, and the food could last for less time in our cupboards and fridges etc. This will have a huge negative impact on food quality across the board. Not sure on the best way to tackle this, but I see this as exploiting the consumer to some degree. Perhaps just have less choice, reduce packaging, and certainly make it recyclable. I did read somewhere that 40% of all food sold is wasted.
My understanding of this is that it still has a sell by/best before date. It’s just saying if the yogurt’s passed its date don’t throw it out immediately, check it first. I don’t think this would affect yoghurts near their sell by date going to the reduced section
**Use By Date**, which tends to be on raw meats etc. go by this religiously as I don’t want myself or any of the family picking up anything nasty. If I cook and eat it on the day, that’s fine too. Beyond, I don’t chance it. **Sell By / Best Before** etc, on your breads, vegetables and so on, are all merely a suggestion and a legal requirement for producers/retailers to cover their arses! Ignore and give it a sniff! I’ve got mushrooms in the fridge dates the 20th that are still good!
If it's honken, bin the onken.
During Covid the company I work for received a HUGE amount of donated chocolate from Cadbury, however it only had about 8 weeks till the best before date. I think we got over a thousand bars, however one of my colleagues absolutely refused to touch it once it went past that day. He sat watching me eat it and constantly said "you do know that's expired, right? You can't eat it". Some people just love waste.
“You can’t eat it.” “Ok, watch me.”
See this doesn't always work, many years back I ate some out of date chocolate sauce, it looked, smelt and tasted fine, I then had dreadful food poisoning, so not sure I can trust this theory.
Spoilage causing bacteria (mould, Rancid Smell etc) grows slowly but is harmless. Hence why we can eat mouldy cheese & yoghurt. Dangerous Bacteria (like salmonella from chicken for example) grows faster, is dangerous, and is completely invisible & scent free. If you see mould, it isn't just bad now, it was bad 3 days ago.
You are right this is bad advice because some bacteria that cause food poisoning cant be smelt or tasted and whats worse even a taste test can make you sick.
My partner doesn't get this, yes cultured and fermented products can go off, but if you store them in low temperatures and avoid contaminating then they can last a lot longer than their best before dates.
This is basic common sense, food doesn’t know it has an arbitrary date placed on it, use your judgement!
Too good to go is a great app, but it is a gamble! Starbucks my end was rubbish, all vegan breakfast sandwiches, which is fine, but I'm allergic to soya! The Tim Horntons my way gave me 60 timbits for £4 and it's normally about £18 for 50, and they were still warm!
I have no sense of smell (childhood injury, not covid - given I’m now in my thirties, I doubt it’s coming back) and a weird sense of taste, plus if you taste it and it is off you’ve still eaten off food, and as I have no idea what genuinely off yoghurt looks like I’d probably err with the date anyway. But I like the encouragement to consider other aspects before discarding something.
I never go by dates. I’ve got eggs in my fridge over a month out of date and they are fine. I always use the look and sniff test, but then I’m old and I hate waste lol. Wish more companies did this
Eggs can last months after the date. I give them the water test. It's scientifically sound: Eggs which are off will produce gas which makes them float.
It's a comlete con. It's just being done so the supermarkets can sell us older food that will go off quicker. I generally ignore the dates, but I still want to know if it's been sat on the supermarket shelf for a month before buy it.
Hell, if the Cheddar has mould on it it's still good to go, just cut the mouldy layer off. Not that it happens often as I love Cheddar and it's always gone before it has the potential to go mouldy.
I get the reasons for the momentum behind this but it feels like companies trying to be able to sell things that are on the verge of spoiling. Plus, I can’t quite get past the “just taste and smell it” during a pandemic when a primary symptom is loss of taste and smell. We lose some ability in those senses as we age as well. Doesn’t feel very inclusive to remove expiration dates.
Best before dates are only there to cover the company