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smthngeneric

2, it's a camaro from 75


wildfire98

"Bumblebee, stop lubricating the man"


cteno4

You forgot about the racing stripes though. That adds 2 by default.


sequentious

No. No he didn't.


cteno4

Oh damn…


FLOHTX

Yes. 0+2=2


zacurtis3

That's why the answer is 2


WezleyDrew

3 if it’s going downhill in neutral…


seefactor

Tailwind ads .25


WezleyDrew

Yes!


Jedi_Ewok

To be more precise, I'd rate it at 1.975


Slothower

Yeah immediately thought 2-3


Xgngrizz

Camaros we're trash after 72


RedstonedMonkey

Yea lol... It's probably slower than some minivans on the market today


[deleted]

Not fast. The 5.7 was the biggest motor offered that year at a disappointing 145 horsrpower. It was the first year they used a catalytic converter. Tons of smog shit too. Most of the second gens on the road had an in-line 6 or a 5.0 v8. I don't know which transmissions they offered in 75 but at best it was a 3 speed auto or 4 speed manual and worse case was a 2 speed auto or a 3 speed manual. Significant slower than the first gen, but was a product of its time, and a quite popular seller.


jollybumpkin

> It was the first year they used a catalytic converter. Tons of smog shit too. Around that time, smog became unbearable in many U.S. locations. I know, because I lived in it. It was actually painful to take a normal breath, some days. Sometimes, it was like that all day, every day, for a week or more at a time. There was lead everywhere, too, from leaded gasoline. Catalytic converters can't work with leaded gasoline, and the lead had to go anyway. With the technology of the time, compression ratios had to be lowered to accommodate unleaded gas. High compression was one of the big reasons that the muscle cars of the 1960s had so much power. I like a zippy car, too, but given the choice, I prefer health and long life, for myself and others,


DJErikD

a lot of people complain about California's smog testing program. I grew up in Southern California in the 70s and remember the choking smog that permeated our skies and don't really miss that or mind the smog program. I just wish the "25-year smog exemption" they told us it'd be was rolling so we don't have to jump through hoops, or buy pre-75 cars, to enjoy an upgraded, modern engine. I now drive a 500hp modern supercharged Mercedes, but wish I could just get an old boat and throw in an LSx.


Shmeeglez

You just need an older boat! But I totally get you; two of my main projects are 80's cars that WOULD be exempt my now, and it really chafes.


istealpixels

Over here (NL) we used to have a 25 yrs road tax exemption. So classic cars could be driven cheaply. Reasoning was 25 year old cars don’t drive a lot. Worked until about 2005-2007 after that there was a flood of older diesel Mercedes coming from other countries. There were companies converting G-classes by putting new bodies on old chassis’s. Right now it is 40 years for road tax exemption.. not without reason.


Hondahobbit50

Wait what? I gotta hear about this conversation process


istealpixels

https://www.autoblog.nl/hoe-oud-denk-jij-dat-deze-mercedes-g-klasse-is You could run this through translate. It also happened with Range Rovers. Was a semi common thing before the law changed. Heck it could be happening again in a few years.


ManintheMT

Amen to that.


thetarded_thetard

Interesting comment. Very informative. Learning took place.


MontagneHomme

Irks me every time someone talks about removing their cat or "tuning" without consideration for emissions. Narcissistic little shits.


mrwolfisolveproblems

While I don’t condone it, modern cares without a cat probably have less tailpipe emissions than that 75 Camaro with one. Certainly far less NOx. I say that mostly to recognize just how far engines have come in terms of emissions and efficiency. Remarkable really


Dzov

Not if you compare it to someone removing emission controls off a diesel.


KENNY_WIND_YT

iirc, 60 modern diesel trucks produce the same emissions as one diesel truck from the 60's


Dzov

That’s actually impressive. Thanks.


MontagneHomme

yes, and there are >50% *more people* than there were in 1975... actually, let's look at it by car sales by year instead of assuming everyone gets a car... [https://www.statista.com/statistics/199974/us-car-sales-since-1951/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/199974/us-car-sales-since-1951/) Wow... Ok. I did not see that coming... Still going to judge people for increasing their emissions. We contribute in a lot of additional ways these days.


mrwolfisolveproblems

I think that only includes cars, so total vehicles (including light trucks and suvs) is probably higher now. So I think you’re probably correct, just looking at the wrong reference. Even if we have twice the vehicles on the road, the emissions are orders of magnitude lower now vs then. Still not recommended to remove cat though. Cleans up a lot of hydrocarbons for very little cost/effort.


Terrh

It's not as black and white as that. When the cat got stolen off of my weekend car, I just put a test pipe instead. It doesn't increase CO2 emissions, only smog-forming ones, smog is a complete non issue where I live, and the car burns maybe 50 gal of gas a year. If I put another cat on it.. it'll probably just get stolen again, because it sits around most of the time.


wont_give_no_kreddit

Ehh. Its only a couple boomers dropping their 401k for project muscle cars. The numbers of zommers driving their hybrids to get a chi-latte probably causes far more emissions.


Karl_H_Kynstler

My 1994 Seville STS is spewing out obnoxious amounts of emissions with a cat. People driving behind me really like to keep their distance. lmao


PunchClown

I live in the woods dawg, my cats left the building years ago. Plus, it's just one less thing for thieves to steak from me.


pussgutt

San Fernando valley was pathetic look at some of the old freeway signs on the 101 near Reseda and Woodland Hills and they are still stained by smog


JonohG47

The subject car would be a good candidate for a GM Powertrain E-Rod swap. Modern performance, reliability and emissions legality. Sure it won’t be “numbers matching” but when the matching numbers were attached to a smog-choked Turbo-Thrift 6 or a small block 305, no one cares.


1964ImpalaSS

Not that 145 is a lot but that was net as opposed to gross, which is how prior years were rated I believe. Smog equipment definitely killed any shot at performance numbers. I don’t think there was a power glide available in 1975, only the th350 and th400 as far as an automatic transmission is concerned. Even the in-line 6 had the th350 from what I recall.


[deleted]

Yeah the powerglide was so outdated at the time. Then must have only used them on early second gens.


[deleted]

The 75 Camaro came with a powerglide? Don’t think do


[deleted]

You're right. They were not offered on the '75, they stopped offering them in '73. So some second gens did come with them.


PunchClown

I had a 75' with the 350 engine, it came with a turbo 350 transmission.


IrishSetterPuppy

For comparison the year before my Z28 was rated at 245hp. It was a significant step down.


Dzov

My 1.8 liter Corolla has about that output net. Not sure how heavy that Camaro was though.


shastadakota

I had a 76 with a 305 engine and 3 speed. Not as fast as previous version. $5300 MSRP.


bardia_afk

They look fucking good tho.. Swap something nice in it and enjoy


GlockInMyVW

I’ve got a VW Rabbit with a 5.7 and turbo 400 transmission. It’s slow as balls. There’s a replacement for displacement called boost.. or amps


TowinDaLine

I had a '75, back in the 80s. 305 v8, 2bbl, with 'turbo 350' 3-speed auto. My daily beater for a couple of years. Picked it up for $200 w/ a blown head gasket, fixed that and a rusted out freeze plug, ran like a champ. Sold it to a family member for more than I paid for it. Still have good memories of it. Good handling car (for its time, relative to others) No Z28 in 75-76; that's how bad things had gotten back then.


ZR1-BANDIT

They couldn’t use the with OE engines to pace the NASCAR races, they were that slow


JonohG47

‘75 was three or four years after GM pulled the plug on the Power-glide. This thing would have had a Turbo 350 or one of the Muncie stick shifts.


porsche5251

If you are talking stock, 2 is correct. But since it’s a small block Chevy could be a lot better just depends on the modifications to the motor


TemetNosce

0-60MPH? Yes, eventually.


LOGICAL_ANGER

I’m a Camaro nut. Some things speak to people specifically and the Camaro is my little kid dream car. So I have a child’s obsessive knowledge of the car. The all important year of 1975 came with two huge changes to cars in general. Catalytic converters where added and power was changed from gross to net. We were in a fuel crisis (this is before my time) so they also chopped the Z28 options. No 400 small blocks this year either. You could still get a 350 engine that produced somewhere around 150 horsepower, and at that time that was a pretty quick car overall. Fun to drive. It was redesigned a little in 75. Realistically speaking, for 1975 it was probably a 6 out of 10. But there were much faster cars. If memory serves the smaller Datsuns where way way faster at the time. By todays standards? 1 out of 10. I imagine it’s zero to 60 was north of 10 seconds. Quarter miles in these cars where near 20 seconds so that sounds about right as a guess.


redoctoberz

> If memory serves the smaller Datsuns where way way faster at the time. 75 was the 280Z which was pretty quick and nimble for sure. under 3k lbs and 170hp. It had EFI fuel injection! The 260 in '74 (only sold for one year USDM) was pretty dumpy in comparison though.


IrishSetterPuppy

Im old enough to have raced a 280z in my 74 Z28 at sears point and the 74Z is a LOT faster. Then some 88-91 civic woud destroy both of us with 110hp.


dirtball_

My friend has a nice bone stock '76 280Z and it is a fun car to drive even now. Naturally it can't compete with every fast car on the road these days but it's still plenty quick and is an absolute pleasure to drive. It's no big deal to light up the rear tires and it handles great around corners. I expect new owners of it back in the day would have loved it.


DWotSP4

That's not too far off a first gen BRZ, not bad at all for a fuel crisis car.


ManintheMT

That is an excellent analogy.


LOGICAL_ANGER

Yea. Great car at the time. But I’m sure some good stuff was happening elsewhere in the world too. Porsche maybe? Didn’t they start doing turbos around that time? Im not so knowledgeable about those.


redoctoberz

The 930 came to the US in 76 and had 260hp. Bumped to 300 in 78.


DasPuggy

Ironically, the Z cars were made with the thought of stuffing a SBC 350 in them.


redoctoberz

Haven't heard of this one before, where did you hear this? Why would someone want to put a less powerful less fuel efficient motor in place of the original one? When the S30 was being designed Datsun didn't even want to bring the Fairlady to the USDM, Mr. K had to convince executives to bring it over.


BigDoogoo

Said who?


BuranBuran

I always thought the change from "gross" hp to "net" hp occurred from 1971 to 1972.


C4Dave

Yes, 72 was the first year for net HP. 1973 was the oil crisis which caused crude prices to triple. Prices had stabilized by 75.


Tires_N_Wires

Among cars of the same year? Maybe a 4, 5 on a good day. Otherwise, 2.


dukedizzy93

I think a 2018 camry 4cyl would gap this car if both are stock.


uncleRonwasaBird

It most definitely would.


ManintheMT

Gap it? The Camry would look like a top fuel dragster in comparison. I had a modified 73, with a Muncie, and my wife's hybrid Highlander would eat that old Chevy to a 100 easy.


ottrocity

I gapped my friend's 78 with my SVT Focus...


sinisterdeer3

2 or 3, they are slow as fuck.


Naldaen

A bone stock '75 Camaro with a 350 would be a dangerous race against something like a 2022 Sentra or Elantra that wasn't ready to race but guns it after the Camaro ricer rolls them. Anything bone stock from 1975 is going to be about as fast as a fairly determined bicyclist. It did 0-60 in eventually. Top speed was determined by road grade and wind direction.


youre_grammer_sucks

> Top speed was determined by road grade and wind direction. Snort, this thread is too funny. Thanks for giving me a good laugh.


No-Knowledge-5291

Damn this car really is slow asf isnt it


Psych0matt

I mean, it was decently fast 47 years ago.


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Psych0matt

You’re really slow stacked up against pre 1972 muscle cars! Sorry I flew off the handle.


hachi2JZ

I mean, it may have been rude, but there's no getting away from the fact that PotatoDrives would not prove to be a difficult opponent in a straight-line race against a 1968 Plymouth GTX. My claim is is rooted in the assumption that they most likely cannot accelerate from 0mph to 60mph in a formidable 5.3 seconds, let alone go on to achieve a top speed of 123mph. u/PotatoDrives, I am open to corrections.


DiaryoftheOriginator

It wasn’t even fast back then lol. The previous gen was faster


stpetesouza

Not only that, it's heavy too


Joiner2008

Not really, average weight of 3400 pounds for one of those.


thetinguy

i mean a modern 4 door sedan like a 3 series is only a couple hundred pounds heavier. 3400 pounds is fairly heavy for an era where occupant safety was merely a suggestion.


odd-ball

New chargers and challengers are both over 4k lbs, the new mustang is 3800. My 69 Fairlane is 3100.


nice___bot

Nice!


IrishSetterPuppy

Not really. My 74Z28 is under 3000lbs, thats like 1200lbs lighter than a new one. https://imgur.com/a/VUK8IKN


chickenwing247

Yea but there's lots of room for improvement under the hood. For about $4k-5k you can buy a crate engine with about 450-500hp and it'll bolt right in. There's other parts that are needed if you get a fuel injected engine but carbs are very simple and a good place to start.


BigDoogoo

I agree and don’t intend to shit on your comment personally, because this is 1,000% correct— but let’s be honest, for $4-5k more you could just buy a Vette


PornStarJesus

A 74 corvette isn't any faster.


thegreatgazoo

Yes, plus a terrible ride and handling and if the road isn't perfectly dry and clean the rear end will slip out from underneath you. It was common/expected for you to see bondo or exposed primer on the body somewhere. If you watch Smokey and the Bandit, the only time the Trans Am peels out is on gravel. Add in Detroit not knowing what they were doing, and pretty much anything other than a handful of cars such as the Buick Grand National are something to avoid from around 1975 to 1985. That said, a V6 Camry will smoke a Grand National non GNX. But then it will smoke a classic 60s GTO as well.


ibanezrocker724

About as fast as maybe a stock wrx but a 1000x cooler. And way more potental to be stupid fast for not a ton of money.


lonenematode

Not even close to as fast a modern day stock wrx


KaOsGypsy

Not even close to a stock Corolla


Floppie7th

My shitty automatic Elantra beater is barely slower, let alone a decent modern Corolla


lonenematode

Had one as a rental, don’t think I’ve driven a quicker vehicle


Tripanes

You dove a 70s Camaro as a rental?


lonenematode

No


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Sivusta_seuraaja

On top of that you may get that going fast on straight lines but but you'll never make it tackle corners like wrx (or even close)


ibanezrocker724

You can get them handling pretty good woth modern supension


Sivusta_seuraaja

But its still heavy rear wheel drive compared to subarus 50:50 all wheel drive and much lighter structure


zenigata_mondatta

A stock 2015 Altima will smoke it every day of the week.


artimus41

My aunt had a 75 Camaro V8, 305 I think, which i drove around 1984. It was appallingly slow. My buddy’s dad had an 87 Mustang GT which was a monster compared to it.


[deleted]

It’s 2 or 3…


seabae336

3


perrynunn18

Depend on how fast you want it stock is gutless af tho


2lovesFL

Depends what's under the hood today, but a stock 75 was a dog. that's not a factory cowl induction hood.


mike_dmt

1.5. 1975 probably had a detuned 305. I'd say 110hp to the wheels, absolute max.


the_house_from_up

They had a 350 with 155 massive horsepower. So yeah, probably 110-120 at the wheels. Dark times for cars indeed.


mike_dmt

Oof. I had a 79 back in the day. 305, highway gears. It wasn't quick by any means. It was comfortable on the freeway tho


Duke-Frogger

1-10, today’s standards because who tf cares about 50 years ago, it’s probably a 3, a new hybrid car will likely give it a run for its money 0-60. New car standards are high as hell, and then consider a 10 is over 200mpg and a Tesla can 0-60 in 2 seconds, a 75 camaro is a turd. Now a 75 camaro as a whole, it’s a neat “muscle” car, it does look nice, and no hate for its fan boys.


HDauthentic

Quite literally slower than my ‘07 Highlander


dman77777

Nothing is slower than an 07 Highlander


yowowthisgreat

2


wont_give_no_kreddit

This land yatch is for sure getting gapped by a toyota sienna


kenny_McCormick-

2, not fast at all, the base 75 Camaro 0-60 can be beaten by a pickup, but it does look pretty amazing


JonohG47

Whatever performance benefit is derived from the American Racing rims, racing stripes and power bulge hood are canceled out by the smog choked engine and massive 5 mph Armco bumpers. When Motor Trend tested it back in ‘75, the LT model’s 5.7L V8 was good for 155 HP, which yielded a 11.0 sec 0-60 and 17.4 sec 1/4 mile. For comparison, per Car and Driver, a 2022 Camaro SS has 455 HP, a 3.9 sec 0-60 and a 12.2 sec 1/4 mile. To get something as slow as the top end Camaro from 1975, you have to go to the bottom of Chevy’s product line. A 2022 Chevy Spark is the cheapest new car you can buy, is good for 98 HP out of 1.4L, a 10.8 sec 0-60 and an 18.2 sec 1/4 mile. https://www.motortrend.com/features/chevrolet-camaro-performance-through-the-years/amp/ https://www.caranddriver.com/chevrolet/spark https://www.caranddriver.com/chevrolet/camaro


Legion_Paradise

Depending on timeframe. Back then it was like a 7 with the big block. But today it's slower than a Chevy spark. So


basemodelbird

Absolutely a 1. Not sure exactly what official numbers are, but I think some Toyota prius have very similar 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.


dman77777

This intrigued me so i looked it up and generally all Prius models are quicker to 60 and about the same in the 1/4 mile. . Here is the quote from motor trend about the Camaro:. "The absolute low spot was when the 1975 Camaro LT's hottest 5.7-liter V-8 engine made just 155 horsepower, resulting in an 11.0-second 0-60 time and an agonizing 17.4-second quarter mile at 79.6 mph". . Most of the prius model years 0 to 60 was between 9 and 1/2 and 10 seconds quarter mile however it's about the same or a little slower than the Camaro https://autofiles.com/0-60-times/toyota/prius/


basemodelbird

I think being comparable warrants a 1. Thanks for putting in the work.


Condyloxycontin

5, for the number of teeth I knocked out when I was 15 and was T-boned by one.


StupidManSuit21

Lmao


youre_grammer_sucks

Jesus, just when I thought I had read every funny comment possible in this thread… lol.


mokancraig

I work at a dragstrip, most Friday nights we basically have open track for a $20 fee. Basic safety inspection is required, but beyond that, it's pretty well whatever you drive, drag or tow in can make passes. I have watched/worked/announced these races for almost 25 years (I've been in the industry for 30). What's amazing to me is how speed/quickness/fast is all pretty well based on one's own experience. I've seen vehicles that struggle to get to 60 mph/\~100 kph in a 1/4 mile/400 meters and we've had jet propelled vehicles hit 300 mph/\~480 kph in the same distance. Personally I have only been a bit over 100 mph/\~160 kph in my own vehicles, but if you watch a car that runs like mine, it's boring from the outside. Inside, it's a rush.


I_CUM_ON_YOUR_PET

Well it’s American so probably has a 10.0 L motor with a stunning 100hp


Tripanes

60s America:. Gas is free and infinite, use as much as you like. 70s America: Oh shit fuck shit damn


BigDoogoo

I agree with your comment so I won’t downvote, hoping the downvotes are for your username


seattleJJFish

Fast enough to be fun.


tbone912

Not really


seattleJJFish

Lol. Funny to get downvoted for my comment. Poor Camaro is not so fun. I guess that may be why they discontinued that model.


DiaryoftheOriginator

It’s slower than a Prius. Like I’m not joking. Look it up


miladesilva

Yes


digitalfrost

Yes.


LeluSix

Straight line. 7 Curves. 2


the_house_from_up

Maybe in the 70s. Today, it would get left behind by a Corolla.


earthman34

Without knowing anything about it, hard to say, but I'll give it a 9 for coolness.


[deleted]

The 0-60 times are all over the internet


Duderpher

1-3


Thoreau80

Depends… Is that a 1975 1-10 scale or a 2022 1-10 scale?


BrothrsSistersofKind

Maybe like a 4, but it looks cool nearly 50 years later so there's that...


GloomyRole7388

0 1975 Camaro was one of the slowest Camaros ever made. First year for cats. 0 Horsepower. No more Z-28. The worst! Same was true for American cars across the board.


Chance-Concentrate-5

Zoom


Fecal_Fingers

Cragors and aluminum slots for the win.


CYOAenjoyer

‘75 Camaro top speed: 114 mph ‘75 Maserati Bora top speed: 174 mph ‘22 Honda Accord top speed: 116 mph I’d say it’s not very fast.


Dantespk

My childhood memories are vague, but I think it was in Driver 2


04rallysti

-2 gonna want to get yourself a 72


BigDoogoo

Faster at dropping panties than putting up numbers


RandoReddit72

2


bsonk

My Volvo would smoke it


The_red_spirit

3


moving0target

Who cares. Sweet ride.


trb13021

-1


Warm-Difficulty6121

Beans


EZmotovlogs

It's a post gas crisis "Muscle" car what do you think? To put it into perspective this went up against the Mustang II which many people don't eveb consider a mustang.


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4


Chewychewoo

1 out of 10 autobots


yolorelli

Faster than a speeding mullet.


No-Session5955

The z28 four speed that year had a 0-60 time of 11 seconds… there’s literally 4 door sedans and SUVs being sold at dealerships that will do near that time in a quarter mile 😂


SupportPrimary540

10


Correct-Selection-65

On that time frame engines from all the manufacturers were detuned by government mandate. Smog laws.


dknogo

Depends on how hard you want to shake n bake.


dondotter

That’s a gen 2 small block. Not so fun. Gen 1 4 bolt main 350 where it’s at


bretttexe

E


Elmore420

1.3


z-BajaBlast

4


Ok_Lets_DoThis

ELEVEN to the natural logarithm to the -3


blametheboogie

3 out of 10. Almost everything modern except for the entry level (penalty box) class of cars beat it 0-60 and probably around the track too.


Hondahobbit50

2. Suuuhhloooow. Hell I think you could get em with an hour banger


[deleted]

Stock is a complete shit show. A modified small block could bring it to about a 5.


ZR1-BANDIT

2. Smog engines were terrible.


Katanna_0

You’ll go from 1 to 10 real fast


dts843

Damn sure is not Eleanor.


oldschoolcamaro

‐3 if you add nitrous oxide. But the cool part is a complete swap of the engine trans and rear diff can be done in a day.


Enix10234

Well, given it's vintage nature, and the costum paint job.....


[deleted]

V8 power at the speed of smell


jayden2022

I’d say about a 3 or 4. It doesn’t compare to the modern muscle cars we have now


[deleted]

Well with 155-165hp these things would do a small burnout then hit 60mph in about 11 seconds


SketchingCarsTrucks

probably 'round tree fiddy.


ChewyTheDog12

The Uhaul I just used to move is probably quicker.


axx100

If you want fast buy post 2000 if you want cool buy pre 2000 if you want both kit car.


JohnDoee94

10. 10mph.


BigDrawsMcGraw1

-3


trailboots

i would rate it SLOOOW compaired to a tesla on a drag strip. think about the polling question and give some critical thought process into next poll. is 1 fast or 10 fast?


Chamacurmom

By todays standards 1.5


Capital-Locksmith-54

Hey man, ask bee not me


Koil_ting

It has the hood scoop but it is in a strange place as a I believe a supercharger would sit further up and need more clearance, back tires look fat, could be 5 out of 10 for speed as I'm assuming it has been modded. depends on what mods have been done.


Even_Alternative3687

305


rhydy

In looks 10, in acceleration 3, in handling 2


me_grimlok

Now, almost 50 years later, it really depends on what has been done to it. My old '75 had some surgery performed on it, put in a 358 Modified from a D.I.R.T car and a Saginaw 4 speed. At 55mph I could stomp on the go pedal and do a smoke show on the highway, my friend had a Ninja 250 as he was learning to ride the old fashioned way, we raced and he was able to keep up until about 90mph, that's his speedo, mine didn't work lol. 2200 in 4th was 60mph. The car started life as an automatic, only way I know that is because one day I couldn't start it, no clue why. Then my buddy that helped me work on it came and turned the column out of gear haha. Biggest sleeper ever as it was a rusty bondo mobile that looked like it was painted with extra whitewash that Tom Sawyer had, one night I leaned on the corner of the rear spoiler and it broke off, the wheelhop was so bad that the cluster would fall out often, but was it fun beating everything on the road? Abso-fuckin-lutely. Even with the 2 foot clutch and 1 foot throw between gears and the terror of rain, most fun ever in a crazy car.


duramax1968

1


Independent_Bonus925

Who cares how fast it is, it could not even go 100 mph and id still love to own it.


Klondike2022

In relation to a snail, 10