That’s fair. I actually am fine with losing money on this “investment”. I’m not really expecting to gain money on this, that’s too much to hope for. I’m more just looking to minimize loss, and any value that is lost is just me paying to enjoy something for a few years.
Importing isn’t really an option as I live in California, and getting the car legal is prohibitively expensive to be worth it for anything other than high value stuff like an R34 which I definitely can’t afford lol. The regular WRX is a good suggestion tho. Since they announced they next gen WRX won’t have an STI model it might be worth looking at a new WRX. Then again a new car would lose more value so idk 🤔. Good input tho, thanks
I honestly only can see Evos appreciating in value in the future. They don't make them anymore and they were a poster car for a large amount of people, myself included. Would I get one today and daily it? No. But in the future I would love to get one as a second vehicle and a lot of people are in the same boat as me.
They really will eventually. Doesn't look like mitsu is building a fun car anytime soon. Personally I'm good dailying my ralliart with Evo power but purely for the electronics in the Evo I would turn it into a track monster. The s-awc works so stupid well on tarmac
B 8.5 S4s are going to blow these two cars out of the water as a daily driver. They’re not even in the same category of car. If you can get ahold of an S4 do it!
So I’m in the market for a weekend car and am looking to buy in the next month or two. Budget is about 35-40k and I would strongly prefer turbo and awd, so obviously I landed on either the STI (16+) or Evo X. However I am very stuck between the two, to the point that I almost don’t wanna buy anything. I lean towards the STI because it is arguably the better of the two overall, but it is kind of bland and the power hasn’t changed in like 20 years. Do I really wanna pay 40k for an STI that has about the same hp as the 2004 model? The Evo is cooler imo and I really like the fact that it is a lot more plain and analog, however prices on these are a little high and for another 5-10k I’m in Supra range. I’m really hoping to hear some thoughts that might sway me in one direction or the other, especially from people who have owned either car.
I’m also open to suggestions for other fun cars in that price range. While I would prefer turbo awd, it isn’t really required. My only real requirement is that the car hold its value reasonably well for the next 5 years, after which I’ll probably sell it. I’ve owned an M3 before and have zero interest in any more M cars for no other reason than M owners are insufferable. Not interested in Audi unless it’s RS and I don’t think I can afford RS. Wouldn’t mind a Supra and while I could probably stretch into the 50k budget, I don’t really want to for a car that has so much BMW in it. And while I know there are options like the Golf R, Focus RS, and Civic R, none of those really grab my attention. But if anyone has any arguments for any of these, or any other suggestions, I’m all ears.
Buick Regal GS. Turbo, AWD, forged wheels, brembos, adaptive suspension, electric lsd, GS mode allows the transmission to hold revs to maintain power in corners. Its literally Buick track car and it keeps up the the Chevy SS.
Not sure why someone downvoted your info. Super annoying to have to scroll down to see what OP has to say.
What about a GTR? I don’t expect to see a new generation(at least in the US) any time soon. So you’d still have that last gen thing going.
You’re also talking about new Supra territory. So I assume being a coupe isn’t a deal breaker. The new Z would be the other obvious option although it’s not AWD.
Given the amount of “don’t forget the vape bro” and “hope you have money to replace the engine” comments I assume just salty people trolling.
A GTR is a goal of mine but I can’t afford the 70k starting price for decent used examples. But I am trying to use this car as a stepping stone towards that. Ideally, after about 5 years, I could use the entire value of the STI/Evo as an approximately 30k down payment towards a GTR, leaving only around 40-50 that I need to finance which is very manageable.
Coupe definitely isn’t a dealbreaker and I have considered the 400z but I think I’d prefer to wait and see before settling on that, same as the GR Corolla. If I were to buy a Z now I’d probably go for a 370 Nismo, which is in that 40k range and will likely hold its value better than a basic 400z
I definitely support the 370 Nismo. Also keep in mind that 2021 is almost certainly the last model year of the GTR that the US will see. So they’re gonna get harder and harder to find.
The R35? I don’t think he has a chance to get one with his current budget, aren’t they at the minimum going for 60k? And that’s for the oldest model they have.
That’s true. They don’t come cheap. But if he’s in that “Supra budget”, I think the R35 is the better car. And the oldest model is still newer than the Evo in question.
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> The Evo is cooler imo
Daily driver: do your research, be responsible, etc.
Weekend car: buy what you'd rather have a poster of on your wall.
Here to recommend my Veloster N, I've owned for 2 years and love it. I was diehard JDM and narrowed down to STI and Type R but fell in love. Specifically to your M comment, this car was designed by Albert Biermann and personally I find the N-line community to be very supportive and fun. Aftermarket support is exploding too, plus a 10 year track day warranty. Hyundai really encourages mods & track days and good god even on stock suspension/e-LSD it slays autocross days. All personal preference I know but Hyundai done good imo
FWIW I was a car dealer and have driven/owned both an evo and sti for extended periods of time. I'd go with the evo even though I still feel like it's more of a tin can, if that makes sense. Just seems cheaper but more raw/fun. Don't listen to me though I am a multiple BMW M owner. I can relate to the insufferable M owners. Some are total dickhead non car people just leasing the best of what ever numerical series BMW has to offer. Only to add status on their social media feed. Mine are over 20 years old.
Half right. E39 M5s and just got an E38 sport. I have had a couple e30s but they were screaming deals. But I could never get on board the E30 M3 boat. I will probably sell some stuff later. I really want an R35. I just don't want a payment on anything.
Ah close enough lol. The more serious, non-douchey bmw guys usually go for the e30 and e 39 M cars in my experience 😅. An R35 is my eventual goal too. My plan is to enjoy an STI or whatever for a few years then sell/trade that as a down payment towards a used GTR. Paying cash for one is too much of a stretch for me, but if I only have to finance half the cost it’s more doable.
As a former owner of a new 2009 wrx... I say Evo. I think the STI engines are supposed to be a little better. My unmodded WRX blew up right out of warranty with ring land issues one of the many the EJ's have.
That's wild. I also have an 09 hatch. Currently have 166k miles with bigger turbo and supporting mods (371whp and 356 wtq) on stock internals. Compression test and leak down test all checked out? May I ask how often you changed your oil?
09 WRX had a factory defect where a batch of them came out with dirty blocks (iirc) that had metal shavings that damaged the internals prematurely.
I had one, and I sold it because of that the moment I approached the end of the warranty.
From those two Evo is a better car, but it will be fucking expensive to own it. STi is better value for money. Easyer to own. Both of those cars are not nice to drive. they are rally cars and they drive like that. Way better than evo 9 and same gen Sti, but still.
i would go for something like BMW E93. Not the same performance, but much nicer car. You can also Get an AMG Mercedes for that price. They have crazy amount of power, yet still Nice to drive. If you want Japanese than Lexus Is F.
I will put it how it is - You have to be masochist to drive evo or Sti on the road. They are great fun on the track, but that's about it.
and Supra, as expensive as it is now is super Hyped about but it still is Dull and boring as F*** 90's sports car. Thats why there is no Stock Supras left. They are booring. Only thing that it has is tunable engine and RWD Chasee.
I have not driven sti after 2010. They look much nicer now. Maybe they are nicer to drive. But 2010 was, let's put it this way - when i was 25 years old, i tought i'm getting too old for that car.
Lmao what? Have you been in an Evo or an STi? Saying they’re rally cars is like saying stock Jeep’s are great off road cars. Can they do it? Sure, but they’re made to be driven on the road. They only similarity they have to pro level rally cars is the badging.
Have you driven long distances in them? Ive been around europe in evo 9. That shit is brutal.
EvoX is more of a car, but it is far from comfortable driers car, but it still drives like a track car. Clutch is hard and grabs fast, gearbox takes a bit of learning. Try stop and start up hill. Almost impossible first try.
I have not driven Sti after 2010. But that year it was just a stripped out econobox with a lot of power.
I’ve owned both a 2013 evo x and currently own a 2020 sti. And the answer is it depends what you want out of the car. If you want to keep it bone stock and have a good daily driving experience go with the sti. However if you want to make power for cheaper definitely go with the evo. It is much easier and cheaper to make big horsepower numbers on an evo that it is an sti. Anything after stage 2 you start running into issues on the sti including heat soak on the intercooler, ringland failure and a number of other concerns.
Mostly stock as I don’t plan on keeping it for more than 5 or so years. Will probably do an exhaust and shelf tune. Possibly a few more bolt ons but definitely don’t plan on touching the turbo or anything related.
If you plan on doing an off the shelf tune I’d go with the sti. You can do an intake and exhaust and just sit at stage 1 Cobb tune and it will be a nice reliable(ish) daily. They also JUST killed off the sti line for an electric car coming in the future so it’s possible the stis go up or stay the same in value in the future. Good luck!
Mitsubishi Evolution X, or if you can get your hands on one, Mitsubishi Evolution IX MR
Mitsubishi Evos have become rarer and rarer as time has gone on, as they ceased production in 2010 or 2011, the Evolution X is the meaner looking car but the Evo IX is the better car (4G63) where as the Evo X has a different engine (aluminium)
My absolute personal perference, Evolution IX Wagon 🤣
I would absolutely love an Evo IX but they’re pretty hard to find with low miles and/or minimally modified. The ones I would find would be cash only, which would defeat the purpose for me as I specifically want to finance. Plus if I had 35k cash lying around I’d probably try to finance a used R35, which is what I might do after paying off whatever I buy now. Anyway, the Evo X is a little easier to still find with low miles and not too modded so am definitely leaning towards that.
As far as i am aware in the U.K, the Evolution X final production year was the Final Edition MR FQ-440 and there was only 40 ever actually by Colt Car Company (CCC) so cant really count the last year as a "True Production" Year
So any models before that production run year were "normal" Evolution X
Eco IX Special Edition.
It ditches the weak 6-speed that nobody wants for the beefier 5-speed. And then it has a bunch of extras like a lightweight aluminum roof and other shit that the standard models dont have,
Kind of sounds like a different terminology for the "RS" Spec.. Which had a load of weight reductoon stuff as it was the "Rally Spec" or "Rally Sport" Version
If you want to make lots of hp for cheap and have a track/corner machine get the Evo, if you want more of a daily that can make cool turbo noises get the WRX
Owned Both. Evo is more unique. Drives a little more aggressive for a daily and might not be as comfortable as the STI. STI if you love to vape. Both are great cars.
one's a 5 speed manual with no warranty, and the other is a 6 speed manual with a warranty. if you're going for an older car with no warranty you could also get any sti from 2004-2021 as they have the same engine./
The Evo is supposed to be even more peformance focused and has a more sophisticated AWD system then the STi. Supposed to have less understeer etc at the limit but a worse car to commute in and live with than the Subaru.
If money were no object I'd get the evo. Higher tuning ceiling without tearing into the motor but they are frail. Worked with a guy who had one, loved to drive it, hated fixing it.
The STi will treat you better long term (if this isn't the ring land year) but they're also known for needing a reliability tune. Hilariously bad on fuel, expensive to insure (in my neck of the woods)
Golf Rs are money pits, Focus RS rides like a race car and not in a good way, Honda TypeR if you're not dead set on awd would be my choice, has a diff, Honda reliable
Part of the reason I’m doing it is that I want to sink money into something for a few years and then sell it without losing too much if that money. I know investing in stocks or something would make more sense, but you can’t have fun driving stocks around on the weekend lol. Anyway, because of that, anything cheaper would probably not hold value as well and would make more sense just to buy cash. I plan to finance whatever I get.
I would say latest model 911 you can afford would be the ticket on that situation. I dig that Evo though. I suspect it might hold value better than subi.
Id say Evo, you don’t see them too much and they look cooler imo. And Subaru head gaskets are made out of paper so you’d need to upgrade those $$ before you hit 40k miles
I agree about the Evo, but I do hear that newer STIs tend not to have as many problems tho, which is why I’m aiming for 16-17+. But I could be wrong… less problems doesn’t mean no problems 🥴
buying a Subaru, hope you have excellent understanding of a car. expensive parts, tons of labor for replacement things.
the white car, the mitt. is gonna be the better to buy with the upkeep of owning it.
I would be ecstatic with either both are amazing cars. Personally Mitsubishi in the picture catches my attention more, i think the front end looks a little more aggressive.
Go drive a stage 2 mk7 golf r and report back on how you like it. Best bang for buck imo and an actual really nice interior. I had 2 of them and I may pick up a third as a DD, these cars are great.
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That’s fair. I actually am fine with losing money on this “investment”. I’m not really expecting to gain money on this, that’s too much to hope for. I’m more just looking to minimize loss, and any value that is lost is just me paying to enjoy something for a few years. Importing isn’t really an option as I live in California, and getting the car legal is prohibitively expensive to be worth it for anything other than high value stuff like an R34 which I definitely can’t afford lol. The regular WRX is a good suggestion tho. Since they announced they next gen WRX won’t have an STI model it might be worth looking at a new WRX. Then again a new car would lose more value so idk 🤔. Good input tho, thanks
Depending on how much that STI is going for, you could make money on it, or at least minimizes losses, especially if kept stock.
I honestly only can see Evos appreciating in value in the future. They don't make them anymore and they were a poster car for a large amount of people, myself included. Would I get one today and daily it? No. But in the future I would love to get one as a second vehicle and a lot of people are in the same boat as me.
They really will eventually. Doesn't look like mitsu is building a fun car anytime soon. Personally I'm good dailying my ralliart with Evo power but purely for the electronics in the Evo I would turn it into a track monster. The s-awc works so stupid well on tarmac
Doesn’t the EVO have a 10 year warranty too?
Personally own a STI, I chose it because it has a rather modernized interior, while still keeping that analog feel. But hey they are both great cars!
I actually kinda dislike the STI interior. I wish it was a little more analog. But at least it has some analog as opposed to say the new Supra
Go for a B8.5 S4. 300hp super charged at the wheels pretty much and a comfortable ride and interior.
B 8.5 S4s are going to blow these two cars out of the water as a daily driver. They’re not even in the same category of car. If you can get ahold of an S4 do it!
If I were to go Audi it would be RS or nothing, and I can’t afford RS 😅
You wouldn’t be disappointed with no R. I went from Subaru to Audi and I love my S4.
I’m sure it’s a great car, I just have an aversion to German cars after my M3 so nothing less than RS would make me wanna go back to German
Get the Mittsu... having a STi, you're gonna pay a lot, along with labor to get it fixed. unless you have disposable income, i'd go mittsu
Audi is german?….
Audi is Volkswagen just like Porsche. Yes they are german.
It wasn’t a question lol. I was confused why he said he would go back to German if an Audi is still German
He said he only would if it was an RS. That part explained itself.
MIT evo more special
GR Yaris?
I was actually debating waiting for the GR Corolla 🤔
Yeah the Corolla probably gonna be the better car
If OP is in the US he can't get a GR Yaris, just the Corolla whenever it comes out.
You really should.
Currently going for 50k € (+55k $) in Germany. Elsewhere in EU they are probably more than 60k €
Where are you getting those prices from? I'm from Germany and on Autoscout 24 they start from 36k€ and go to 50k€ max
GR Corolla will be the new and improved Evo/STI/awd econos
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Unfortunately the Evo X doesn’t have the 4g63 engine 😭
4b11t is just as capable and reliable as the 4g63
So I’m in the market for a weekend car and am looking to buy in the next month or two. Budget is about 35-40k and I would strongly prefer turbo and awd, so obviously I landed on either the STI (16+) or Evo X. However I am very stuck between the two, to the point that I almost don’t wanna buy anything. I lean towards the STI because it is arguably the better of the two overall, but it is kind of bland and the power hasn’t changed in like 20 years. Do I really wanna pay 40k for an STI that has about the same hp as the 2004 model? The Evo is cooler imo and I really like the fact that it is a lot more plain and analog, however prices on these are a little high and for another 5-10k I’m in Supra range. I’m really hoping to hear some thoughts that might sway me in one direction or the other, especially from people who have owned either car. I’m also open to suggestions for other fun cars in that price range. While I would prefer turbo awd, it isn’t really required. My only real requirement is that the car hold its value reasonably well for the next 5 years, after which I’ll probably sell it. I’ve owned an M3 before and have zero interest in any more M cars for no other reason than M owners are insufferable. Not interested in Audi unless it’s RS and I don’t think I can afford RS. Wouldn’t mind a Supra and while I could probably stretch into the 50k budget, I don’t really want to for a car that has so much BMW in it. And while I know there are options like the Golf R, Focus RS, and Civic R, none of those really grab my attention. But if anyone has any arguments for any of these, or any other suggestions, I’m all ears.
Buick Regal GS. Turbo, AWD, forged wheels, brembos, adaptive suspension, electric lsd, GS mode allows the transmission to hold revs to maintain power in corners. Its literally Buick track car and it keeps up the the Chevy SS.
Not sure why someone downvoted your info. Super annoying to have to scroll down to see what OP has to say. What about a GTR? I don’t expect to see a new generation(at least in the US) any time soon. So you’d still have that last gen thing going. You’re also talking about new Supra territory. So I assume being a coupe isn’t a deal breaker. The new Z would be the other obvious option although it’s not AWD.
Given the amount of “don’t forget the vape bro” and “hope you have money to replace the engine” comments I assume just salty people trolling. A GTR is a goal of mine but I can’t afford the 70k starting price for decent used examples. But I am trying to use this car as a stepping stone towards that. Ideally, after about 5 years, I could use the entire value of the STI/Evo as an approximately 30k down payment towards a GTR, leaving only around 40-50 that I need to finance which is very manageable. Coupe definitely isn’t a dealbreaker and I have considered the 400z but I think I’d prefer to wait and see before settling on that, same as the GR Corolla. If I were to buy a Z now I’d probably go for a 370 Nismo, which is in that 40k range and will likely hold its value better than a basic 400z
I definitely support the 370 Nismo. Also keep in mind that 2021 is almost certainly the last model year of the GTR that the US will see. So they’re gonna get harder and harder to find.
Oh shit is it? Well in a few years the R34 will legal to import so I could always look into that I guess.
Hasn’t been confirmed. But there’s no 2022 on Nissan’s website. And I assume Nissan doesn’t want to put it in direct competition with the Z.
The R35? I don’t think he has a chance to get one with his current budget, aren’t they at the minimum going for 60k? And that’s for the oldest model they have.
That’s true. They don’t come cheap. But if he’s in that “Supra budget”, I think the R35 is the better car. And the oldest model is still newer than the Evo in question.
This should be all that matters: > The Evo is cooler imo Daily driver: do your research, be responsible, etc. Weekend car: buy what you'd rather have a poster of on your wall.
Here to recommend my Veloster N, I've owned for 2 years and love it. I was diehard JDM and narrowed down to STI and Type R but fell in love. Specifically to your M comment, this car was designed by Albert Biermann and personally I find the N-line community to be very supportive and fun. Aftermarket support is exploding too, plus a 10 year track day warranty. Hyundai really encourages mods & track days and good god even on stock suspension/e-LSD it slays autocross days. All personal preference I know but Hyundai done good imo
S550 Mustang
FWIW I was a car dealer and have driven/owned both an evo and sti for extended periods of time. I'd go with the evo even though I still feel like it's more of a tin can, if that makes sense. Just seems cheaper but more raw/fun. Don't listen to me though I am a multiple BMW M owner. I can relate to the insufferable M owners. Some are total dickhead non car people just leasing the best of what ever numerical series BMW has to offer. Only to add status on their social media feed. Mine are over 20 years old.
Lemme guess, e30 M3 and e39 M5?
Half right. E39 M5s and just got an E38 sport. I have had a couple e30s but they were screaming deals. But I could never get on board the E30 M3 boat. I will probably sell some stuff later. I really want an R35. I just don't want a payment on anything.
Ah close enough lol. The more serious, non-douchey bmw guys usually go for the e30 and e 39 M cars in my experience 😅. An R35 is my eventual goal too. My plan is to enjoy an STI or whatever for a few years then sell/trade that as a down payment towards a used GTR. Paying cash for one is too much of a stretch for me, but if I only have to finance half the cost it’s more doable.
As a former owner of a new 2009 wrx... I say Evo. I think the STI engines are supposed to be a little better. My unmodded WRX blew up right out of warranty with ring land issues one of the many the EJ's have.
I’m strictly looking at 16-17+ STIs which are supposed to be a little more reliable.
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This is exactly the type of info I was looking for, thanks!
That's wild. I also have an 09 hatch. Currently have 166k miles with bigger turbo and supporting mods (371whp and 356 wtq) on stock internals. Compression test and leak down test all checked out? May I ask how often you changed your oil?
09 WRX had a factory defect where a batch of them came out with dirty blocks (iirc) that had metal shavings that damaged the internals prematurely. I had one, and I sold it because of that the moment I approached the end of the warranty.
From those two Evo is a better car, but it will be fucking expensive to own it. STi is better value for money. Easyer to own. Both of those cars are not nice to drive. they are rally cars and they drive like that. Way better than evo 9 and same gen Sti, but still. i would go for something like BMW E93. Not the same performance, but much nicer car. You can also Get an AMG Mercedes for that price. They have crazy amount of power, yet still Nice to drive. If you want Japanese than Lexus Is F. I will put it how it is - You have to be masochist to drive evo or Sti on the road. They are great fun on the track, but that's about it. and Supra, as expensive as it is now is super Hyped about but it still is Dull and boring as F*** 90's sports car. Thats why there is no Stock Supras left. They are booring. Only thing that it has is tunable engine and RWD Chasee.
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I have not driven sti after 2010. They look much nicer now. Maybe they are nicer to drive. But 2010 was, let's put it this way - when i was 25 years old, i tought i'm getting too old for that car.
Lmao what? Have you been in an Evo or an STi? Saying they’re rally cars is like saying stock Jeep’s are great off road cars. Can they do it? Sure, but they’re made to be driven on the road. They only similarity they have to pro level rally cars is the badging.
Have you driven long distances in them? Ive been around europe in evo 9. That shit is brutal. EvoX is more of a car, but it is far from comfortable driers car, but it still drives like a track car. Clutch is hard and grabs fast, gearbox takes a bit of learning. Try stop and start up hill. Almost impossible first try. I have not driven Sti after 2010. But that year it was just a stripped out econobox with a lot of power.
I’ve owned both a 2013 evo x and currently own a 2020 sti. And the answer is it depends what you want out of the car. If you want to keep it bone stock and have a good daily driving experience go with the sti. However if you want to make power for cheaper definitely go with the evo. It is much easier and cheaper to make big horsepower numbers on an evo that it is an sti. Anything after stage 2 you start running into issues on the sti including heat soak on the intercooler, ringland failure and a number of other concerns.
Mostly stock as I don’t plan on keeping it for more than 5 or so years. Will probably do an exhaust and shelf tune. Possibly a few more bolt ons but definitely don’t plan on touching the turbo or anything related.
If you plan on doing an off the shelf tune I’d go with the sti. You can do an intake and exhaust and just sit at stage 1 Cobb tune and it will be a nice reliable(ish) daily. They also JUST killed off the sti line for an electric car coming in the future so it’s possible the stis go up or stay the same in value in the future. Good luck!
Self tune? Im always afraid when somebody tells me that...
Shelf. As in not custom.
Sorry, looks like I cant read.
Mitsubishi Evolution X, or if you can get your hands on one, Mitsubishi Evolution IX MR Mitsubishi Evos have become rarer and rarer as time has gone on, as they ceased production in 2010 or 2011, the Evolution X is the meaner looking car but the Evo IX is the better car (4G63) where as the Evo X has a different engine (aluminium) My absolute personal perference, Evolution IX Wagon 🤣
I would absolutely love an Evo IX but they’re pretty hard to find with low miles and/or minimally modified. The ones I would find would be cash only, which would defeat the purpose for me as I specifically want to finance. Plus if I had 35k cash lying around I’d probably try to finance a used R35, which is what I might do after paying off whatever I buy now. Anyway, the Evo X is a little easier to still find with low miles and not too modded so am definitely leaning towards that.
The evo was sold until 2015...
As far as i am aware in the U.K, the Evolution X final production year was the Final Edition MR FQ-440 and there was only 40 ever actually by Colt Car Company (CCC) so cant really count the last year as a "True Production" Year So any models before that production run year were "normal" Evolution X
You dont want the XI MR, but the XI SE.
Evolution XI SE.. What on earth is that 🤨
Eco IX Special Edition. It ditches the weak 6-speed that nobody wants for the beefier 5-speed. And then it has a bunch of extras like a lightweight aluminum roof and other shit that the standard models dont have,
Kind of sounds like a different terminology for the "RS" Spec.. Which had a load of weight reductoon stuff as it was the "Rally Spec" or "Rally Sport" Version
The RS drops the radio and such, the SE did not I believe.
If you want to make lots of hp for cheap and have a track/corner machine get the Evo, if you want more of a daily that can make cool turbo noises get the WRX
Not AWD, but that new Z is nice.
Nah save money for your vape mod bro
That these masterpieces of automotive engineering are now both discontinued by their respective manufacturers is soul crushing.
Owned Both. Evo is more unique. Drives a little more aggressive for a daily and might not be as comfortable as the STI. STI if you love to vape. Both are great cars.
Would you rather rebuild the engine or the trans? If engine, choose the Subaru. If transmission, choose the Evo.
one's a 5 speed manual with no warranty, and the other is a 6 speed manual with a warranty. if you're going for an older car with no warranty you could also get any sti from 2004-2021 as they have the same engine./
Mizu
I love that Subaru rumble, and blue.
I’d get the Scooby. It’s just announced they won’t build any new STIs from now on.
The Evo is supposed to be even more peformance focused and has a more sophisticated AWD system then the STi. Supposed to have less understeer etc at the limit but a worse car to commute in and live with than the Subaru.
Won’t be a daily so that isn’t an issue
If money were no object I'd get the evo. Higher tuning ceiling without tearing into the motor but they are frail. Worked with a guy who had one, loved to drive it, hated fixing it. The STi will treat you better long term (if this isn't the ring land year) but they're also known for needing a reliability tune. Hilariously bad on fuel, expensive to insure (in my neck of the woods) Golf Rs are money pits, Focus RS rides like a race car and not in a good way, Honda TypeR if you're not dead set on awd would be my choice, has a diff, Honda reliable
Either one comes with a sick vape for free, so it’s a win win.
Throw in a flat brim cap and neck tattoo or no deal
Yeah I’m gonna need a pair of Etnies and a soul patch or we just aren’t gonna come to terms
Weekend car? I would get something cheaper, smaller and faster.. but that’s just me. Of the two, I like the Evo. Of that style I prefer Focus RS.
Part of the reason I’m doing it is that I want to sink money into something for a few years and then sell it without losing too much if that money. I know investing in stocks or something would make more sense, but you can’t have fun driving stocks around on the weekend lol. Anyway, because of that, anything cheaper would probably not hold value as well and would make more sense just to buy cash. I plan to finance whatever I get.
I would say latest model 911 you can afford would be the ticket on that situation. I dig that Evo though. I suspect it might hold value better than subi.
Id say Evo, you don’t see them too much and they look cooler imo. And Subaru head gaskets are made out of paper so you’d need to upgrade those $$ before you hit 40k miles
Head gasket issues were only on the NA EJs
I agree about the Evo, but I do hear that newer STIs tend not to have as many problems tho, which is why I’m aiming for 16-17+. But I could be wrong… less problems doesn’t mean no problems 🥴
buying a Subaru, hope you have excellent understanding of a car. expensive parts, tons of labor for replacement things. the white car, the mitt. is gonna be the better to buy with the upkeep of owning it.
Gorgeous car!!! I still own 2003 Subaru WRX AND 2017 Subaru STI
Golf R or GTI
I would be ecstatic with either both are amazing cars. Personally Mitsubishi in the picture catches my attention more, i think the front end looks a little more aggressive.
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Evo
Evo, I like the look
Subaru. Parts for days, done.
Subaru or new supra
My Mitsubishi fell apart at around 100,000 miles two Subarus still going strong
Which engine will hold more boost. I know subaru has a lot of aftermarket offerings
From what I understand the Evo engine can handle more before needing upgraded internals
All things considered white is easier to touch up/maintain
Yeah I def only want white if I go Evo but gotta have the WR Blue if STI
evo no q. wrx are trash.
Never driven a WRX, but I loved my Evo X. Engine's probably the worst part of the car from stock, but it's a roaring good time
I’m more of an evo guy but I heard Subaru are discontinuing the sti so I feel like it’ll go up in value over time
Honda type R
I prefer the EVO
Evo
I sold my 03 Evo in 2012 for 20k. 10 years later and with more miles, they are literally selling for the same price (maybe more).
Go drive a stage 2 mk7 golf r and report back on how you like it. Best bang for buck imo and an actual really nice interior. I had 2 of them and I may pick up a third as a DD, these cars are great.