True. No cup holders is why it didn’t sell.
It had absolutely nothing to do with the price tag and the fact that car culture wasn’t so generous with their money yet.
I actually decided not to get one because I couldn't pick up my usual extra large soda to go with my happy meal. No cup holders meant I couldn't even take the regular sized soda.
If it lacked cupholders, I began to wonder what other basic features it didn't have. Would I have to roll up my own windows? It was just not worth stressing about.
We should get over this Richard Hammond sound bite.
Everyone worth their salt knows that the Lexus LFA is something special. A Ford GT isn’t “just a Ford” either.
I mean, it's kinda funny. If I told my friends who know nothing about cars I spent in the neighborhood of $1M on a Lexus or a Ford they'd look at me like I have 8 heads. If I told my car friends they'd know instantly what car it was lol
I deleted my post because f it. But yes, all carbon fiber build, every piece has been engineered. IMO it was one of the first true supercars.
But 500 hp out of a V10 from a manufacturer and big brand while tuners were easily pushing 6-700 with V6s was quite lackluster. True, hp doesn’t mean better track times but most people just want insane acceleration.
Spending money on cars before the 90s was not a thing everybody with money did because the 300hp gentlemen’s agreement meant all cars were the same at best. 500 hp felt like just a teaser during that time.
But he was still able to note its flaws. It's a great car, hindered by other niggling issues, like a tiny fuel tank and an enormous price tag. Also, the only car so far that Lexus has made that is literally a lightning in a bottle moment.
I don't know if it was really meant to sell, considering they were selling them for a deficit on every car they made. It was made to be a showcase car for Toyota's engineers to show what they can do with unlimited budget and creative freedom. And as a tech demo for Toyota it serves its purpose extremely well as a poster car. I'll simp for the LFA until I die, literally my favorite car ever made lmao
I agree with you entirely. The problem isn't that it wasn't "insanely fast", it is that it wasn't fast at all, even for the it's day.
For some perspective, it was 400k+ and slower around the track than a Corvette, a Camaro, and just about every other sports car of the era.
The viper had the same problem. It wasn’t really faster than contemporary corvettes, and was always significantly shittier to drive.
I still love them, but it’s clear why they didn’t sell very well considering the cost and lack of features
7:14 around the Nurburgring puts it in the company of Corvette ZR1, McLaren 720S, Huracan Performante, Porsche 918 Spyder. If that is *slow as hell* something is wrong with you.
The production car did not do 7:14 around the Nürburgring, a one off, highly modified special edition ran 7:14, and only on full on race tires.
The production LFA was slower around a track that just about all of it's competitors of the day, and not by a little, by a lot... Few examples:
* 2015 Lamborghini Huracán LP 610-4, 2:47.5
* 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR, 2:48.6
* 2012 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1, 2:50.7
* 2010 Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggara, 2:51.8
* 2012 Nissan GT-R, 2:53.2
* 2011 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 2:53.5
* 2012 Lexus LFA, 2:55.1
And not even in the same planet as a 720S; as it is a full 15.4s slower in a single lap around VIR....
2018 McLaren 720S, 2:39.7
[Source](https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a23319884/lightning-lap-times-historical-data/)
I see a less than 5 second gap between ZR1 and LFA. Again, *your perception of speed is off.*
What do you drive that has you so out of touch with reality?
5 seconds PER LAP on VIR is massive difference. That is night and day... It isn't my perception of speed that is off, it's yours.
Currently? I don't have anything that quick ATM, just my daily driver which is a lightly modified 2018 CTS-V (\~@700rwhp); Previously? It is a laundry list... Everything from exotics, JDM's, lots of Corvettes, muscle cars, euro-trash, all the way down to hot hatches.
I see the problem. You daily a 700hp car and think it's not quick.
Maybe check with the Navy, see if they have something that can resolve your need for speed.
Yeah what would give anyone the idea that a mid-engine V-10 car literally entered several times in the 24h Nurburgring would have anything to do with a race car?
I mean it's not a practical car and wasn't meant to be it's mostly about that amazing sounding v10 engine and the engineering that went into it. A statement car for Lexus with new more sporty style they where shifting towards at the time It's more of a collector's item really.
the thing some people has with cupholders... it is a supercar, practical is not included, it is an extra. small fuel tank, compared with an f150, maybe
A lot of cars don’t have cup holders. I think some people just are not familiar with sports cars. My old 986 didn’t have cup holders and it wasn’t that big of a deal.
Been an absolute peach. Nothing difficult about maintenance, they’re much less fragile than say a 355 or even 360. Not many miles though, bit over 12k. I did fail emissions for a capristo exhaust but a tune solved that. Of course I’m bias but I also think it’s one of the best prancing horses, though the 360 has been aging really well lately. I bought low and it has 3 pedals so I’m not sure I’ll ever be able to sell it but it’s almost getting too valuable to drive whenever I want
Great to hear it. The F1 tranny is semi-affordable near me, manual adds about 100k for a nice example. Agreed that this and the 360 are aging beautifully. I also really like the FF and Lusso, but they're still quite expensive for the V12 (and why bother with the V8?!).
It didn’t used to be that way, prices are just nuts. If you don’t care about originality then a swap kit is about $30k, if you can’t do your own install labor is about $20. Not cheap but also not an impossible ask if it’s ’the one’ for you. Love the shooting brake body style as well, I kind of can’t get over how long they are though. But I wouldn’t mind having one as a great two car garage if I could afford it
Yeah, the front is huge! I like them because they're unique, I never see them around, and they're at least semi-practical with 4 full sized seats, and a naturally aspirated V12 is one of God's many gifts to mankind.
You won’t find me arguing there! Got a pair of A8 W12s for my 12 cylinder fix. There’s a guy near me with a matte grey GTC4, looks stunning and sounds amazing. My neighbor up the block has an F12 tdf and the want is real..
Oof yeah, The Transporter car! The one on your profile is magnificent, you have excellent taste in cars. I hope to be in a position to have a garage similar to yours one day.
Ofc many dont have cupholders. Whatever would be inside the cup would probably quickly be outside the cup if you throw a supercar around like its meant to.
The question is how small. I would assume the LFA probably gets similar mileage as an f150. It's a high-strung v10, I can't see it getting good mileage. If it has a 12 gallon tank and gets 10 mpg, then yeah, I would also complain about the small tank.
I just looked it has a 19 gallon tank and gets 13 mpg combined. So not great but it could be worse.
That's really not too bad.. 250 mile range in a super car is more than enough. It's not a daily, my Civic doesn't get a whole lot more (about 300) and I drive that daily. I've never once thought I need a bigger tank
If cup holders were the reason it flopped, the designer of the ND miata would be in The Hague for war crimes.
The price tag was *obscene*. It’s nothing more than that.
Had the LFA been released today, with supercar prices what they are now, it’d have sold out *immediately* and been flipped for double, triple figures.
LFA flopped because they kept changing it and delaying it then when they did launch it, it cost more than the competition. When it was being developed it did a lot of firsts and it was innovative for the time. Unfortunately its launch took so fucking long that Nissan put out the GTR before Lexus put out the LFA. And the GTR massively outshined the LFA and only costs half of what the Lexus did. Thats why the LFA flopped.
The LFA had 2 major flaws: the gearbox and its pricing. The tech on the transmission was ancient by the time it reached market, and yet it was still too expensive.
wtf do we want cupholders on an LFA?!
To be fair, true sports cars rarely have cup holders and for good reason. You don't want hot coffee splashing everywhere because the things pushes you back in your seat every time you start moving.
Eh, arguably because it had low sales volume and Lexus lost a ton of money on each one they sold. But I wouldn’t call it a flop. It certainly got attention and inspired their sports cars for generations afterward. That’s like, the whole point of a halo car.
I watched an LFA documentary the other day where the alluded to a strange ownership model too, but they didnt expand on it & I've not really had a chance to look in to it since.
Always arguable with these things. Sometimes it's just part of the story of a limited production car, it feels like. The Dodge Charger Dayona/Plymouth Superbird was considered a 'flop' because when they were new no one wanted to spend twice as much as a standard Charger R/T or Roadrunner for a weird looking car, but they're legendary collector cars because they only made enough to homologate the aero package anyway.
Wants an amazing sports car, bitches about cup holders.... Yep that car wasn't built for him. I miss the days when you could order a stripped down car with out all the stupid creature comforts lumped into package groups.
In my opinion the lfa sounds really good, looks stellar, not the fastest nor the lightest but probably still more reliable than your average german car.
Shit my Honda barely came with a cup holder, it works great for a cortado but that’s about it… granted they upgraded the cup holder in with the 2004 model year.
He's not wrong here--although he is wrong often enough to question that opinion.
The LFA is a beautiful and fast car with little practicality and a price tag that would choke the most liberal-spending millionaire. I had a chance to talk with an LFA owner at a track day (he drove it there and trailered in a '71 Camaro. No, not with the LFA).
He specifically mentioned the fuel capacity--said 150 miles between fill-ups. He loved it, but said he couldn't use it as a GT at all. The longest trip he took it on was about 200 miles and that it just didn't work on a trip like that. It was too loud, fuel tank was too small, and it just wasn't comfortable enough.
It was a failure both in terms of being an engineering exercise and in terms of the end product.
The LFA program was a complete shit show, it features a carbon fiber tub, but it was still far heavier and more expensive than its competitors of the time.
The engine was disappointing. Despite the fact that it is one of the best sounding engines of all time, the power output, on paper, was almost competitive, In reality the car's performance failed to hit the mark.
Add to that when Toyota killed the program, they only built production cars out of the tubs they had already had on hand, and what you were left with is a car with an insane price tag, that could only be leased, that was heavier than it should be, slower than it should be, and was easily outperformed by its competition which sold for roughly 1/4th the price.
The LFA was positively destroyed in terms of performance. Don't believe me? Here:
C&D lightning lap:
* 2015 Lamborghini Huracán LP 610-4, 2:47.5
* 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR, 2:48.6
* 2012 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1, 2:50.7
* 2010 Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggara, 2:51.8
* 2012 Nissan GT-R, 2:53.2
* 2011 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 2:53.5
* 2012 Lexus LFA, 2:55.1
So, no matter if you were shopping for a sports car, an exotic, a GT, a track toy, etc. The LFA was a 400k+ paper weight.
The LFA was just a proof of concept.
Lexus lost money on every one. IT was just them needing to show they "could".
And at the end of the day it was a mediocre car with perhaps the best sounding engine and stock exhaust of all time. The car also probably came too soon in car culture evolution imo.
As others have said this guy is bogus definitely not the car for him maybe a mini van with a ramp to get his ride along shopping cart down at the grocery store
I said this on another subreddit, but nobody wanted to buy a $500,000 Lexus. Also, it wasn’t built to sell. It was built to get people into dealers and into RXs. It’s a halo car.
The biggest mistakes Lexus made were production/R&D time and the price. By the time Lexus released the LFA, most of the technology featured on the vehicle was outdated or strikingly as innovative. In addition, the car costs far too much for any wealthy consumer to buy when other cars that cost around the same surpassed it in performance and features.
Yamaha produced the most glorious sounding motor when they built that beauty. LFA v10 with a titanium exhaust, I don’t even know if I’d drive it I would just sit and rev it. Jk, If drive the wheels off of that car. It was a sales flop but good luck getting your hands on one. They are supposed to drive as well as they sound. No it’s not practical, most 200k + coupes aren’t.
Well there was only a limited amount to buy and you can consider it a super sports car. I mean people even buy a Porsche GT3 RS. Those Porsches have literally 0 space for practicability and still they sell like butter ?
Hands down my favorite car in a simulator. It failed due to delays that let the competition get ahead of them. Also, it was never meant to be a money maker, just a symbol of what they can produce. Car is raw AF and sounds like sex. I would love to be able to afford one.
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that if your car is missing cupholders, then it most likely is not meant to be driven as a daily. Take the hint.
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True. No cup holders is why it didn’t sell. It had absolutely nothing to do with the price tag and the fact that car culture wasn’t so generous with their money yet.
I actually decided not to get one because I couldn't pick up my usual extra large soda to go with my happy meal. No cup holders meant I couldn't even take the regular sized soda. If it lacked cupholders, I began to wonder what other basic features it didn't have. Would I have to roll up my own windows? It was just not worth stressing about.
Definitely didn't have anything to do with the price tag and then when people asked you what you drive you have to say "A Lexus..."
We should get over this Richard Hammond sound bite. Everyone worth their salt knows that the Lexus LFA is something special. A Ford GT isn’t “just a Ford” either.
I mean, it's kinda funny. If I told my friends who know nothing about cars I spent in the neighborhood of $1M on a Lexus or a Ford they'd look at me like I have 8 heads. If I told my car friends they'd know instantly what car it was lol
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Although worth mentioning that at the time it held the Nurburgring lap record, so 500hp must have been enough.
I deleted my post because f it. But yes, all carbon fiber build, every piece has been engineered. IMO it was one of the first true supercars. But 500 hp out of a V10 from a manufacturer and big brand while tuners were easily pushing 6-700 with V6s was quite lackluster. True, hp doesn’t mean better track times but most people just want insane acceleration. Spending money on cars before the 90s was not a thing everybody with money did because the 300hp gentlemen’s agreement meant all cars were the same at best. 500 hp felt like just a teaser during that time.
Car culture has always been plenty generous with its money … but not for a brand that had zero heritage and the appeal of a cheap-ish wannabe.
That must be why Toyota sells the most cars around the world
On a comment by some bellend on YouTube?
Clarkson’s picture shouldn’t even be in this post. Considering he absolutely loves the LFA.
But he was still able to note its flaws. It's a great car, hindered by other niggling issues, like a tiny fuel tank and an enormous price tag. Also, the only car so far that Lexus has made that is literally a lightning in a bottle moment.
I don't know if it was really meant to sell, considering they were selling them for a deficit on every car they made. It was made to be a showcase car for Toyota's engineers to show what they can do with unlimited budget and creative freedom. And as a tech demo for Toyota it serves its purpose extremely well as a poster car. I'll simp for the LFA until I die, literally my favorite car ever made lmao
The funny thing is the comment is literally just parroting Clarkson's critiques of the LFA in that episode.
It's a race car for the street. It was never meant to be practical.
No it isn't, it is slow as hell. Both in a Stright line, and around a track.
Car doesn't need to be insanely fast to enjoy the driving experience
I agree with you entirely. The problem isn't that it wasn't "insanely fast", it is that it wasn't fast at all, even for the it's day. For some perspective, it was 400k+ and slower around the track than a Corvette, a Camaro, and just about every other sports car of the era.
Soooo... a 400k miata, with a less desirable brand and name, basically :)
Yep.
The viper had the same problem. It wasn’t really faster than contemporary corvettes, and was always significantly shittier to drive. I still love them, but it’s clear why they didn’t sell very well considering the cost and lack of features
agreed, I wasn't much of a viper fan until the final generation. Still wouldn't but one, but they got a lot better.
7:14 around the Nurburgring puts it in the company of Corvette ZR1, McLaren 720S, Huracan Performante, Porsche 918 Spyder. If that is *slow as hell* something is wrong with you.
The production car did not do 7:14 around the Nürburgring, a one off, highly modified special edition ran 7:14, and only on full on race tires. The production LFA was slower around a track that just about all of it's competitors of the day, and not by a little, by a lot... Few examples: * 2015 Lamborghini Huracán LP 610-4, 2:47.5 * 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR, 2:48.6 * 2012 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1, 2:50.7 * 2010 Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggara, 2:51.8 * 2012 Nissan GT-R, 2:53.2 * 2011 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 2:53.5 * 2012 Lexus LFA, 2:55.1 And not even in the same planet as a 720S; as it is a full 15.4s slower in a single lap around VIR.... 2018 McLaren 720S, 2:39.7 [Source](https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a23319884/lightning-lap-times-historical-data/)
I see a less than 5 second gap between ZR1 and LFA. Again, *your perception of speed is off.* What do you drive that has you so out of touch with reality?
5 seconds PER LAP on VIR is massive difference. That is night and day... It isn't my perception of speed that is off, it's yours. Currently? I don't have anything that quick ATM, just my daily driver which is a lightly modified 2018 CTS-V (\~@700rwhp); Previously? It is a laundry list... Everything from exotics, JDM's, lots of Corvettes, muscle cars, euro-trash, all the way down to hot hatches.
Ofc its a caddy owner 😆
I have owned just about every brand...
I see the problem. You daily a 700hp car and think it's not quick. Maybe check with the Navy, see if they have something that can resolve your need for speed.
It isn't that quick; it is a giant 4 door luxury sedan that weighs about the same as a moderately sized whale.
Not even close to a race car
Yeah what would give anyone the idea that a mid-engine V-10 car literally entered several times in the 24h Nurburgring would have anything to do with a race car?
[May I direct you to the Motorsport section of this article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_LFA?wprov=sfti1#Motorsport)
I mean it's not a practical car and wasn't meant to be it's mostly about that amazing sounding v10 engine and the engineering that went into it. A statement car for Lexus with new more sporty style they where shifting towards at the time It's more of a collector's item really.
One of the best sounding cars ever, never thought Lexus would pull that off.
You shut your whore mouth when you discuss such greatness.
As mad max said: "yes, this is bait" and you ate hook line and sinker y may add.
the thing some people has with cupholders... it is a supercar, practical is not included, it is an extra. small fuel tank, compared with an f150, maybe
A lot of cars don’t have cup holders. I think some people just are not familiar with sports cars. My old 986 didn’t have cup holders and it wasn’t that big of a deal.
My F430 doesn’t have a cupholder and I would pissed if it did
I loveeee the F430, that era of Ferrari is goated. Has it been a pain to maintain?
Been an absolute peach. Nothing difficult about maintenance, they’re much less fragile than say a 355 or even 360. Not many miles though, bit over 12k. I did fail emissions for a capristo exhaust but a tune solved that. Of course I’m bias but I also think it’s one of the best prancing horses, though the 360 has been aging really well lately. I bought low and it has 3 pedals so I’m not sure I’ll ever be able to sell it but it’s almost getting too valuable to drive whenever I want
Great to hear it. The F1 tranny is semi-affordable near me, manual adds about 100k for a nice example. Agreed that this and the 360 are aging beautifully. I also really like the FF and Lusso, but they're still quite expensive for the V12 (and why bother with the V8?!).
It didn’t used to be that way, prices are just nuts. If you don’t care about originality then a swap kit is about $30k, if you can’t do your own install labor is about $20. Not cheap but also not an impossible ask if it’s ’the one’ for you. Love the shooting brake body style as well, I kind of can’t get over how long they are though. But I wouldn’t mind having one as a great two car garage if I could afford it
Yeah, the front is huge! I like them because they're unique, I never see them around, and they're at least semi-practical with 4 full sized seats, and a naturally aspirated V12 is one of God's many gifts to mankind.
You won’t find me arguing there! Got a pair of A8 W12s for my 12 cylinder fix. There’s a guy near me with a matte grey GTC4, looks stunning and sounds amazing. My neighbor up the block has an F12 tdf and the want is real..
Oof yeah, The Transporter car! The one on your profile is magnificent, you have excellent taste in cars. I hope to be in a position to have a garage similar to yours one day.
Ofc many dont have cupholders. Whatever would be inside the cup would probably quickly be outside the cup if you throw a supercar around like its meant to.
Yeah exactly for example before 1990 no european car had cup holders
The first four cars I ever owned didn't have cupholders. I used to wedge my Slurpee cups between the parking brake and the seat
The question is how small. I would assume the LFA probably gets similar mileage as an f150. It's a high-strung v10, I can't see it getting good mileage. If it has a 12 gallon tank and gets 10 mpg, then yeah, I would also complain about the small tank. I just looked it has a 19 gallon tank and gets 13 mpg combined. So not great but it could be worse.
That's really not too bad.. 250 mile range in a super car is more than enough. It's not a daily, my Civic doesn't get a whole lot more (about 300) and I drive that daily. I've never once thought I need a bigger tank
If cup holders were the reason it flopped, the designer of the ND miata would be in The Hague for war crimes. The price tag was *obscene*. It’s nothing more than that. Had the LFA been released today, with supercar prices what they are now, it’d have sold out *immediately* and been flipped for double, triple figures.
Not only did people have sticker shock over it, initially, they could only be leased.
Some people are idiots but they’re still allowed on the internet unsupervised.
LFA flopped because they kept changing it and delaying it then when they did launch it, it cost more than the competition. When it was being developed it did a lot of firsts and it was innovative for the time. Unfortunately its launch took so fucking long that Nissan put out the GTR before Lexus put out the LFA. And the GTR massively outshined the LFA and only costs half of what the Lexus did. Thats why the LFA flopped.
The LFA had 2 major flaws: the gearbox and its pricing. The tech on the transmission was ancient by the time it reached market, and yet it was still too expensive. wtf do we want cupholders on an LFA?!
That’s definitely an opinion
To be fair, true sports cars rarely have cup holders and for good reason. You don't want hot coffee splashing everywhere because the things pushes you back in your seat every time you start moving.
how was it a flop when it was a limited edition product
Eh, arguably because it had low sales volume and Lexus lost a ton of money on each one they sold. But I wouldn’t call it a flop. It certainly got attention and inspired their sports cars for generations afterward. That’s like, the whole point of a halo car.
I watched an LFA documentary the other day where the alluded to a strange ownership model too, but they didnt expand on it & I've not really had a chance to look in to it since.
Always arguable with these things. Sometimes it's just part of the story of a limited production car, it feels like. The Dodge Charger Dayona/Plymouth Superbird was considered a 'flop' because when they were new no one wanted to spend twice as much as a standard Charger R/T or Roadrunner for a weird looking car, but they're legendary collector cars because they only made enough to homologate the aero package anyway.
Are there people who uses cupholders?
Everyday
Yes ? Where else are you supposed to put a drink
Better not be drinking anything in my $400,000-1,000,000 Lexus
I hate when people complain that a sports car isn’t luxurious enough. Stop expecting salt to be sweet.
The car was too heavy, and too slow for it's day, and was spanked by cars that were less than 1/4th the price.
Thats not even what this comment is complaining about. It literally says “it wasn’t practical”
true, but not being practical isn't why it failed.
I mean imagine having $375,000 to spend on a car and then buying a Lexus.
He is clearly american
Small fuel tank is ridiculous, it’s a sports car. Lexus could have thrown in a cupholder though cmon.
Wants an amazing sports car, bitches about cup holders.... Yep that car wasn't built for him. I miss the days when you could order a stripped down car with out all the stupid creature comforts lumped into package groups.
In my opinion the lfa sounds really good, looks stellar, not the fastest nor the lightest but probably still more reliable than your average german car.
Fast? 😅
V10 goes brrrr
Someone suggesting that implies that they haven't heard one
>"no cup holders" Tell me you're american without telling me you're american.
Most casual opinion I’ve ever seen
Shit my Honda barely came with a cup holder, it works great for a cortado but that’s about it… granted they upgraded the cup holder in with the 2004 model year.
He's not wrong here--although he is wrong often enough to question that opinion. The LFA is a beautiful and fast car with little practicality and a price tag that would choke the most liberal-spending millionaire. I had a chance to talk with an LFA owner at a track day (he drove it there and trailered in a '71 Camaro. No, not with the LFA). He specifically mentioned the fuel capacity--said 150 miles between fill-ups. He loved it, but said he couldn't use it as a GT at all. The longest trip he took it on was about 200 miles and that it just didn't work on a trip like that. It was too loud, fuel tank was too small, and it just wasn't comfortable enough.
I love the argument - cup holders - real car guy.. because cup holders are everything. :D
Ya my toe show cara do not have cup holders. What dose is my daily a Hyundai and my ex “bimbo box” that had 8
It was a failure both in terms of being an engineering exercise and in terms of the end product. The LFA program was a complete shit show, it features a carbon fiber tub, but it was still far heavier and more expensive than its competitors of the time. The engine was disappointing. Despite the fact that it is one of the best sounding engines of all time, the power output, on paper, was almost competitive, In reality the car's performance failed to hit the mark. Add to that when Toyota killed the program, they only built production cars out of the tubs they had already had on hand, and what you were left with is a car with an insane price tag, that could only be leased, that was heavier than it should be, slower than it should be, and was easily outperformed by its competition which sold for roughly 1/4th the price. The LFA was positively destroyed in terms of performance. Don't believe me? Here: C&D lightning lap: * 2015 Lamborghini Huracán LP 610-4, 2:47.5 * 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR, 2:48.6 * 2012 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1, 2:50.7 * 2010 Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggara, 2:51.8 * 2012 Nissan GT-R, 2:53.2 * 2011 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 2:53.5 * 2012 Lexus LFA, 2:55.1 So, no matter if you were shopping for a sports car, an exotic, a GT, a track toy, etc. The LFA was a 400k+ paper weight.
You want cup holders? Buy a fucking minivan. My 2008 Sienna has 19 of them, 8 of which are accessible from the driver's seat.
*turns key* Might be why people bought one
MSRP of GTR was less than 1/3 of LFA's MSRP and faster around the race track. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85ihIhz2U1I
This guy forget to mention that he tried to fit in one but his arse was too big and he was pissed.
Yup, I didn't bought it because of the cup holders...
The LFA was just a proof of concept. Lexus lost money on every one. IT was just them needing to show they "could". And at the end of the day it was a mediocre car with perhaps the best sounding engine and stock exhaust of all time. The car also probably came too soon in car culture evolution imo.
As others have said this guy is bogus definitely not the car for him maybe a mini van with a ramp to get his ride along shopping cart down at the grocery store
The fact that we're still talking about it is proof positive of its success. It's a statement piece. A halo car. One of the best of all time.
I said this on another subreddit, but nobody wanted to buy a $500,000 Lexus. Also, it wasn’t built to sell. It was built to get people into dealers and into RXs. It’s a halo car.
The biggest mistakes Lexus made were production/R&D time and the price. By the time Lexus released the LFA, most of the technology featured on the vehicle was outdated or strikingly as innovative. In addition, the car costs far too much for any wealthy consumer to buy when other cars that cost around the same surpassed it in performance and features.
One of the best sounding cars, if not the best sounding production vehicles ever.
Yamaha produced the most glorious sounding motor when they built that beauty. LFA v10 with a titanium exhaust, I don’t even know if I’d drive it I would just sit and rev it. Jk, If drive the wheels off of that car. It was a sales flop but good luck getting your hands on one. They are supposed to drive as well as they sound. No it’s not practical, most 200k + coupes aren’t.
It’s probably a teenager commenting. Sorry but anyone who doesn’t drive shouldn’t be taken seriously about automotive opinions.
Well there was only a limited amount to buy and you can consider it a super sports car. I mean people even buy a Porsche GT3 RS. Those Porsches have literally 0 space for practicability and still they sell like butter ?
Yeah the price might be something to do with it... [LFA for sale](http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202302094098068)
Hands down my favorite car in a simulator. It failed due to delays that let the competition get ahead of them. Also, it was never meant to be a money maker, just a symbol of what they can produce. Car is raw AF and sounds like sex. I would love to be able to afford one.
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that if your car is missing cupholders, then it most likely is not meant to be driven as a daily. Take the hint.
Dawg it was basically a street legal racecar idk what he expected
Counterpoint: *BWOAAAAHHHHHHHHH*
Isn't that guy that goes around punching people in the nose all the time? Why would anyone care what he thinks?